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2.8Power
06-19-2005, 03:10 PM
Anyone here ever take an old Quattro or some classic audi for rally driving? Im thinking about buying an old UrQuattro or Gt to use as a rally car for fun, not to do anything extensive with but i figured i could strip out the inside and do whats needed to keep it running but otherwise just put some rally tires on it and go have fun. I'm in virginia and ive heard about a few southeast rally get togethers that would be fun. if anyone has an car that is in running condition and would be willing to sell for <1000$ let me know. [drive] [race]
I know some people that have used 90's and 200's and A4's for simmilar things, but never UrQuattro's. They are however great cars. If you can find one you should scoup it up. Keep in mind though there were only about 650 UrQuattro's imported so they are very rare. One can get $5k+ parting out a totaled one, so be prepared to spend a lot on one in good shape, and a lot on parts. The GT's are more reasonable, but not quite as cool. I'd personally look for a 90 for this use.
Rob
maxh2o
06-20-2005, 09:53 AM
4000 quattros are the autos of choice for rally driving. bullitproof engines, heavier trannys and quattro (and a hell of a lot cheaper than an UrQ). Check out the article this month in Esquire on the TT's DSG system. The rally driving instructor has a whole stable of 4000's he uses for his students.
80s and 90s are also good but harder to find parts for. BTW, CGT's are better served as long distance runners and autocrossing due to the fwd setup.
2.8Power
06-20-2005, 02:47 PM
ok thanks, ya i found someone selling a rally prepped 4000Q for only a couple hundred $ and all it needs is a new starter and a battery, i think im going to try and pursue that car. but if that wont work ill keep looking for a different 4000Q. i found an amazing UrQuattro on www.karquattro.com but im sure he wants alot for it, because its in mint condition, oh well maybe some other audi enthusiast will get it
maxh2o
06-21-2005, 11:54 AM
8k miles on the urQ!!!! That should go for a pretty penny. I'm still waiting for that bitter divorcee out there somewhere lookin to sell her ex-husbands stable of cars for next to nothing.
Don't laugh, thats how I bought a trio of very valuable guitars!
4kqS4girl
06-22-2005, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by maxh2o
I'm still waiting for that bitter divorcee out there somewhere lookin to sell her ex-husbands stable of cars for next to nothing.
That'd be a good score indeed...just dumping them not knowing the value!
2.8Power
06-22-2005, 10:05 AM
ya that UrQuattro is really nice, ya i wouldnt mind finding some lady selling her ex-husbands car for cheap outa spite. well the guy selling the 4000QT hasnt responded to my emails so i guess ill have to keep looking...oh well im not in any hurry, I really like your collection of cars there MaxH20. some day i hope to have my own stable of nice cars like that.
maxh2o
06-30-2005, 11:04 AM
Speaking of undervalued gems, this is how you build a stable, gain your knowledge chops first, then troll sales sites on a daily basis. This one came up today!
Audi 200 turbo quatro - $1300 (SOMA / south beach)
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Audi 200 turbo 1990. Stick shift,176000 miles.
Good commuter car. Fair condition, delear trade in. I/m an audi master tech also. So if you like to upgrade or condition something on car we can work out the details. Solid,transsmission,engine.,Good body no rust. A good deal for the money. Kelley private party fair condition values at $2200. Call me at 415-533-1839.
jamesb
07-04-2005, 05:25 PM
Sounds like a fun adventure. But I should warn you that learning to drive a rally car can be an expensive ordeal. And, I think it is harder to learn car control with an all wheel drive car. The reason I say this is that it is easier to get a fwd or rwd car to rotate. An AWD car will get the power down better but will be harder to turn. I would suggest a FWD 4000 or a VW GTI.
I know of what I speak, I've been active in stage rallys (and road racing) for several decades. Take a look at http://www.nasaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=41
and www.specialstage.com for events in your area.
JamesB
maxh2o
07-05-2005, 09:56 AM
GTi's were my speciality for a while (specfically the 85 8valves), until I sold my last one to pick up a VR6 corrado (only to turn it right around b/c I didn't like the way it handled). Now I've got a 1.6L 16valve miata I picked up for the GF (but also for autoX).
I'd love to eventually get into rally, but not until I've mastered better control and balance.
jamesb
07-06-2005, 06:39 AM
Back in the late 70's we raced the first Audi (a Fox) in the USA. We even had our picture in the factory motorsports calendar. Here's a shot from the Press on Regardless (we finished 2nd in production after 600 miles).
JimB
http://users.rcn.com/w1jim/AudiRally1.jpg
Great pic.!! Thanks for sharing, and do you have any more?
^^ That's a great price on that 200 I wish it were closer.
Rob
jamesb
07-06-2005, 08:26 AM
Sure, take a look here:
http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=w1jim
maxh2o
07-06-2005, 10:27 AM
[up] very cool pic! How did the fox handle? What kind of engine did the 70's foxes have?
jamesb
07-06-2005, 10:37 AM
I think the Fox had the typical 1800cc FI VW engine of the time. It was inline/fwd. One good part was that it had a subframe unlike the Rabbit which made it far stronger. We seam welded it to increase strength and had lots of under protection. It was raised up as well. Not too much power but it did the job! We only rolled it once, early on in it's career.
JB
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