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mec
02-17-2013, 05:04 PM
****This unit is not for sale on the STE website yet, but you can e-mail "[email protected]" to place a pre-order.****



Tools you will need:
Small flathead
T30 with 3/8 socket wrench
Box opener or small blade
8mm socket
T25 screwdriver
16mm socket

Supplies you will need:
3-4 ft vacuum line - http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=8
3mm vacuum line pinch clamps or similar. - http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?item=995&ret=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boostcontr oller.com%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3D1%26category%3D105.

This tutorial covers the install for a PPD install when you want to use the 44psi boost sensor that is built into the PPD. If you are not planning on using the 44psi boost sensor and just want the gauge for the other features it has, then skip all the steps that relate to installing the vacuum line. You will not need to do this since the PPD will also work with the stock boost sensor.


Step 1: Open your package to reveal its contents. 1 PPD, 1 green harness, 1 blue harness.
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Step 2: Find the driver's side wiper blade, use a small flathead to remove the black cap that covers the anchor point of the wiper arm. You may want to lay down a strip of tape where your wiper blade is positioned currently because we will be removing it. Remove the nut using a 16mm socket. Pull back wiper arm and remove assembly.
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Step 3: below the wiper arm is a black box. This is your Ecu housing. We will be removing it by taking out the three t30 screws in the front and two t30's in the rear in each corner. Go ahead and remove them. Pull the Ecu housing cover by pulling it toward you and up. Be gentle. Chances are you don't have those yellow wires there, don't worry that is only for bixenon retrofits.
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Step 4: Using your knife tool, cut a small hole into the large rubber grommet/sock that connects the engine wiring to the Ecu. We will be routing the vacuum line through this hole. Pull most of the hose through into the Ecu. Tie the 16mm socket onto the end of the vacuum hose that is in the Ecu housing. This will serve as a weight. Maneuver the hose through the rear side of the Ecu housing closest that is closest to the fender. You should be able to push it in easily and it will end up caught in the drivers kick panel. We will get there.
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Step 5: Open the driver's door and using your Audi key or a flat headed screw driver pry off the fuse box cover located to the left of the steering wheel.
Here you will find a small 8mm screw, remove it. There are two more in each corner of the kick panel on the underside. Push your seat back and get under the steering wheel to find them. With the three screws removed the kick panel should pull out toward the seat, and once the clips are out of the dash it will be easy to lay down. Pull the white connector from the back of the kick panel by opening it's white legs and pulling it back. Remove the obd-II connector by pushing in all three tabs and pulling back. Now you can remove your kick panel and set it on a soft surface. Go back under the steering wheel and find your socket and vacuum line, pull it down so you have access to it.
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Step 6: Look under the steering wheel, there is a small latch that when pushed down will adjust the steering wheel column angle. Push it down then pull the steering column out and down. Lock the steering column there by pushing the adjustment lever back into position.pull the trim that sits directly over the steering column using your fingers. Behind it there are two screws and two tabs holding the instrument cluster in. Remove the two t25 screws using your screwdriver. Use the flat head to press the tabs out of the way and then down, this will allow you to pull out the instrument cluster. Before you do that, put a towel down on the steering column so it does not get scratched by the instrument cluster's sharp edges. When you pull the instrument cluster out you will be stopped by two harnesses. One green on the right side and a blue one on the left side. You need to press down on the small lip that is holding the switch from going up. Press that down using a screwdriver then press the red/magenta lever up. This will allow the harness to pop back. Remove both and the instrument cluster will come out.
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Step 7: Using your knife tool, cut the vacuum hose so that it is not too long, attach the inline filter and a pinch clamp. Attach the rest of the vacuum line that you just cut off to the opposite side of the filter. Now you should have vacuum hose attached to nothing, routed through the Ecu box down into the drivers foot well attached to a filter then more vacuum line. Trim this last piece of vacuum line so that it can reach the right side of the steering column, this will help so that it doesn't get tangled.
Now pick up your PPD unit. Plug the stock harnesses that came out of the instrument cluster into the outer ports on the PPD, with matching colors respectively. Then plug the STE harnesses into the inner ports. The opposite ends of the STE harnesses will go into the instrument cluster. Attach your vacuum line to the PPD using a pinch clamp. Install the STE harnesses to the instrument cluster by matching colors respectively. Secure your PPD unit using zip ties or double sided tape to any area in that kick panel.route the harness that is molded into the PPD to the fuse box for future use. Put the two screws back into the slots of the instrument cluster and gently slide it back, you may have to reach behind the instrument cluster from underneath And move the harnesss for the instrument cluster to sit properly. Tighten the screws, install the steering column trim and reposition your steering wheel.
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Step 8: Back to the engine bay, we need to attach the vacuum hose to an intake manifold source. Use your 42dd intake manifold tap and unplug the accordion hose that goes from your pcv setup to the intake manifold. Insert the 42dd intake manifold tap between the accordion hose and intake manifold. Attach the vacuum line to the small tap on the 42dd tap using a pinch clamp. Reinstall the Ecu housing cover will all 5 t30 screws. Reinstall wiper arm to 14NM, or snug plus an 1/8th turn. Reinstall the kick panel, remember to plug the OBDII port and the light plugs back in. Use all three bolts, then reattach the fuse box.

Step 9: Pull out your trusty vag com! If you do not have one not a problem, go to the regional section of this forum that corresponds to your state and or city, look to see if anyone local offers their vag com, if not make a post and ask for help from people who own a vag com, this forum is full of friendly people that won't mind helping you! Make sure to buy them a beer.
Connect to 17-instruments. Go to adaptation and channel 62. Change the value to 23. Test. Save. Done. If you did all that right then you should be good to go.
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Step 10: Now you should display values on your DIS. The final step is calibration. Put your keys into the ignition and turn the key to ACC ON. Wait approximately 20 seconds and the display will flash "PPD map enabled" along with a chime. This means the unit is calibrated and your Ecu will read boost from the PPD built in boost sender which can read 40psi instead of the stock one that can only read 22.5psi. If you're message displayed "PPD map disabled, then cycle the ignition and try again.

That's all there is to it. Now you have boost, air flow ratio, intake air temps, voltage, low pressure and high pressure fuel readings, peak boost recall, oil and water temps and if you don't want to deal with performance for the moment, you can always switch back to have the DIS display the radio info.

I'll add some more photos and videos when I get a chance to go for a drive with someone who can film while I focus on driving.

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******INSTALL NOTES*******
1. Do not insert your key into the ignition while the cluster is disconnected. Doing so will throw your immobilizer into safe mode. safe mode = bad, contrary to what it sounds like.
2. This kit did not come with 1/8" vacuum hose or pinch clamps. I would definitely buy some from Boost controller. I purchased 4 mm hose and 3mm pinch clamps they worked perfectly.
Silicon Hose - http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?category=8
Pinch Clamps - http://www.boostcontroller.com/index.php?item=995&ret=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boostcontr oller.com%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3D1%26category%3D105.
3. Vag-Com will not work unless you are in stock mode. You have all the performance measures, when you reach peak boost recall, you press down on the wiper stalk once, and it displays only boost, you press down once more and wait 5-10 seconds and it returns you to the radio info, now your vag com will work.
4. This is not the final version of the PPD. There will be an add on pack that attaches to the cable that is integrated to the PPD which was not used. This will add many more features, such as automatic data logging, usb updates, etc.
5. If you guys hate the annoying door chime as much as I do, then take this opportunity to actually open up your cluster. it's only 4 - t8 screws. and plug the alarm. I'll be doing a DIY on this soon as well.
6. When the unit goes on sale, there will be an option to use the stock boost sensor to read boost( Ideal if you don't plan on updating your turbo since this sensor reads to 22.5 PSI), and there will be an option to purchase the kit with the tap, vacuum line and pinch clamps to use the PPD boost sensor which can read up to 44 psi( excellent option for stage 3 users.)

judeisnotobscur
02-17-2013, 05:34 PM
So Awesome!
Hopefully the B8 guys will get some love soon.
The B5 ppd is fantastic as well.

shiro1745
02-17-2013, 05:52 PM
This is awesome.

Audibot
02-17-2013, 05:53 PM
Awesome! I am actually installing this on Tuesday, so this will help out a lot!

mec
02-17-2013, 06:42 PM
Awesome! I am actually installing this on Tuesday, so this will help out a lot!

Added a few install notes at the end that may help you out.

shiro1745
02-17-2013, 07:02 PM
How much time do you spend working on your car? You do so much work and then spend a lot of time I'm sure for all your very detailed posts here.

Great job man!

CorneliusRox
02-17-2013, 07:10 PM
sweet!

Audibot
02-17-2013, 07:19 PM
Added a few install notes at the end that may help you out.

Thanks! Definitely. I was actually wondering about a couple things, mainly part-wise. Appreciate the notes. I plan on some pics too--hopefully can clarify a few blurry ones...

mec
02-17-2013, 07:21 PM
How much time do you spend working on your car? You do so much work and then spend a lot of time I'm sure for all your very detailed posts here.

Great job man!

Daily average like 2 minutes lol. I spent alot of time in the garage helping people fix their cars, or working on my engine build, but that is done now. Aside from oil changes I don't do much to my car.

Today was the first day in a month or so that I put some time into it. It put in like 3 hours today plus another of just driving around charging my battery.
Spent like 1.5 hours installing the PPD, .5 hour doing a boost leak test, and 1 hr cleaning my cone filter and troubleshooting why my car wasn't working.
First I let the battery die, and it wouldn't start so I had to jump it, then I had my stock map sensor disconnected so it threw an error code and wouldn't boost, and then that's when I learned that you can't access vag com unless you are in stock mode with the PPD, after that everything was fixed in 5 minutes and went on a drive to charge my battery back up. The post took like another 30 mins.

I've got two more DIY's for you guys soon! DIY for shutting up the door chime, and a DIY for adding an oil pressure gauge to your car, because RACEKOR!

Audibot
02-17-2013, 07:28 PM
DIY for shutting up the door chime


Any chance you'll have that ready by Tuesday night? That's the first chance I get to work on my car. Work is presently slaughtering me. Pretty cool job doing checkout on this little guy (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/landsat/main/index.html)

Jay-Bee
02-17-2013, 07:39 PM
Any chance you'll have that ready by Tuesday night? That's the first chance I get to work on my car. Work is presently slaughtering me. Pretty cool job doing checkout on this little guy (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/landsat/main/index.html)

You can vag-com it off instead of ripping out the buzzer lol.

Great write up, this thing looks hot!

Audibot
02-17-2013, 08:17 PM
I need to get rid of the "dead patient" sound when I open the door with the car running...

Jay-Bee
02-17-2013, 08:24 PM
I need to get rid of the "dead patient" sound when I open the door with the car running...

Yup that would be it.

Since Mec could use it too, i'll post it.


Address 17 - Instruments


xxx?1: Seatbelt Warning

0 No Seatbelt Warning
1 Seatbelt Warning Europe-NCAP
2 Seatbelt Warning USA and Canada old - Dashboard indicator and audio chime for 6 seconds at ignition
3 Seatbelt Warning USA and Canada NAR new
4 Seatbelt Warning Europe-NCAP (including passenger seat)
5 Seatbelt Warning USA and Canada old (including passenger seat)
6 Seatbelt Warning USA and Canada NAR new (including passenger seat) - Default B7 settings

Audibot
02-17-2013, 08:35 PM
I am pretty sure I did this and it still goes flatline on me when I open the door with it running... if I go without it chimes the one time.

drumnjuny
02-17-2013, 08:45 PM
hey martin, just fyi there's a much easier way to get the vacuum hose into the intake. in the wheel well there are grommets to run lines into the engine bay. besides that great DIY!

edit: not wheel well sorry. under the kick panel there is a grommet in the firewall that has different sized holes to run lines/wires into the engine bay. pretty handy.

mec
02-17-2013, 09:28 PM
Yup that would be it.

Since Mec could use it too, i'll post it.

That's for disabling the seatbelt chime I did that already. But sometimes I'm in my car with the laptop and door open and it's beeping at me to close the door, or because my headlights are on, so I taped it up.

mec
02-17-2013, 09:30 PM
hey martin, just fyi there's a much easier way to get the vacuum hose into the intake. in the wheel well there are grommets to run lines into the engine bay. besides that great DIY!

edit: not wheel well sorry. under the kick panel there is a grommet in the firewall that has different sized holes to run lines/wires into the engine bay. pretty handy.

I know there's the wheel well one but i didn't know about the one you're talking about, you'll have to show me next time your down here.

drumnjuny
02-17-2013, 09:41 PM
maybe i am talking about the wheel well haha sorry. did my podi install like 18m ago and can't remember exactly, i probably used the wheel well one you're thinking of

mec
02-17-2013, 09:51 PM
maybe i am talking about the wheel well haha sorry. did my podi install like 18m ago and can't remember exactly, i probably used the wheel well one you're thinking of

Yeah I didn't want to pull my fender liners, but if there is a grommet in the firewall it may be possible ill check tomorrow.

drumnjuny
02-17-2013, 10:00 PM
yeah i definitely did not pull my fender liner... i'm not sure exactly where it goes in but it comes out below the ECU box if i'm not mistaken. i'm always cautious to open the ECU box just due to the waterproof sealant and shiznit

drumnjuny
02-17-2013, 10:25 PM
it gets a lot faster when you can hit 60mph in 2nd gear, and revs go up and down faster [evilsmile]... oh ya the turbo will help also hehe... and also you're not launching hard at all (heard you say "am i just shifting really badly" hahah)

mec
02-17-2013, 10:43 PM
http://youtu.be/JvAGG1WZaak


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CESeAyPv-LA&feature=youtu.be

seal66
02-17-2013, 10:51 PM
Who was videoing that?

8secs I would think that its shifting. I know on my 0-60 it was quicker than that

mec
02-17-2013, 10:56 PM
my buddy in the passenger's seat. that was also with four people in the car. But none the less my car is slow.

seal66
02-17-2013, 11:02 PM
my buddy in the passenger's seat. that was also with four people in the car. But none the less my car is slow.

I do have to admit it is a cool setup. I noticed they are coming out with a RPM fluctuation for boost drop during gear changes, and a few more options they say are coming up in the next firmware update.

I should do a run in my car but I am 3 hrs away from it lol

drumnjuny
02-17-2013, 11:30 PM
what are the other options they're coming out with? what's the rpm fluctuation thing? maestro has launch control / flat foot shifting built in, to keep boost up when not in gear

mec
02-17-2013, 11:34 PM
what are the other options they're coming out with? what's the rpm fluctuation thing? maestro has launch control / flat foot shifting built in, to keep boost up when not in gear

From getste.com

Display Boost, AFR, and other performance data in the cluster driver information display LCD
Built in MAP sensor capable of reading up to 44 PSI!
Peak Boost Recall: Boost & RPM.
AFR run replay - Provides a quick snapshot of your AFR data & RPM from your most recent WOT pass.
Plug and Play Installation: Each unit comes with built in factory connectors and hand built harnesses for a "Plug and Play' Installation
(2x) Auxiliary 5v sensor inputs: Can be adapted to display data from various aftermarket sensors such as wideband O2, oil temp, fuel pressure, water/meth flow, etc.
Automatic Data Logging! - PPD creates a time stamped log with the following data elements every time the driver goes wide open throttle (WOT). The logs can be retrieved at a later date using your computer.
TPS, RPM, Speed, AFR*, N75 Duty Cyle* Note: Optional external feeds required.
Programmable Audible Alerts- RPM limit, over boost, etc.
Performance run monitor: 0-60, F.A.T.S, etc
Extended capabilities through external add on modules. The following optional add-on module will be available at product launch:
Plug and Play Micro Shift Warning LED
Plug and Play integrated N75 electronic boost control provides the following features:
Complete control over the OEM N75 valve.
3 driver definable boost maps (low boost, mid boost, HIGH BOOST)
Instantly change boost map via menu control stalk (I love this feature!)
RPM Compensation: Eliminates boost tapering (drop off) at high engine RPM)
Gear-based Mapping: Adjust your boost based on gear (will be added later via firmware update)
Factory connectors are provided to facilitate plug and play installation and is designed to KEEP THE ECU HAPPY! (No check engine light related to disconnecting the N75).
The addition of external modules and upcoming firmware updates will continue to expand the device's capabilities.

I bolded the really cool ones.

yungcotter
02-17-2013, 11:52 PM
Yeah I didn't want to pull my fender liners, but if there is a grommet in the firewall it may be possible ill check tomorrow.

There are 2 rite by the brake booster they come out rite by the steering column. That's how my gauge is ran.


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Charles.waite
02-17-2013, 11:58 PM
There are 2 rite by the brake booster they come out rite by the steering column. That's how my gauge is ran.


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Same here actually. It was a bit tricky getting them through but I didn't want to mess with my wiper arm and rain tray to get the wires run through the ecu. The placement is perfect for some gauge wiring.

mec
02-18-2013, 12:01 AM
There are 2 rite by the brake booster they come out rite by the steering column. That's how my gauge is ran.


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I'll take a look at that! Thanks, the ECU box is not the ideal solution but it's the only one aside from the wheel liner so I went that route. If there is an easier way I'll look into it for the oil pressure gauge install.

drumnjuny
02-18-2013, 12:39 AM
I'll take a look at that! Thanks, the ECU box is not the ideal solution but it's the only one aside from the wheel liner so I went that route. If there is an easier way I'll look into it for the oil pressure gauge install.

i'll show you mine when i see you on thursday [up]

mec
02-18-2013, 12:44 AM
i'll show you mine when i see you on thursday [up]

If you show me yours I'll show ya mine.

So I just got a reflash, new tune, went and did some runs, and actually the best number I could do 0-60 was 8.08 seconds....And it was a perfect launch, all my other launches were terrible but this one you could feel was perfect. I think have of the problem is that when I am nearing 60, I am so close to redline that I just shift out around 6400rpms, that extra shift probably adds another half second/full second. Still it is a fun little toy. But I am disappointed, with my car's performance, I really thought I was somewhere around 6.3s lol it turns out that adding parts to this car has actually made it slower! Maybe my snow tires, or roof rack are slowing me down ;)

mec
02-18-2013, 01:01 AM
One more video. Watch in 1080p for better clarity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_TBKizJe4I

drumnjuny
02-18-2013, 01:48 AM
leave your spare at home, that'll probably help! snow tires are not helping for sure haha...

65vetteC6
02-26-2013, 07:02 PM
Hey you compared this devices 0-60 times with vagcom?

mec
02-26-2013, 11:12 PM
Hey you compared this devices 0-60 times with vagcom?

Wasn't aware you could do 0-60 on vag com. Part of the unit harnesses broke actually so I'm waiting for replacement parts

65vetteC6
02-27-2013, 05:30 AM
If you can I'd be interested in seeing a comparison. I would imagine they'd be very close but yea vag come has 0-60 1/4 mile and 0-100 I think?

mec
02-27-2013, 09:57 AM
If you can I'd be interested in seeing a comparison. I would imagine they'd be very close but yea vag come has 0-60 1/4 mile and 0-100 I think?

Where do you access that? I've been vag comming for almost 2 years now and I've never been able to find it. Maybe you could log your speed against time, but then I think it would just be easier to use a stopwatch.

The really nice thing about the PPD in performance mode is that you set it to performance mode, and you come to a stop, and as soon as you take off it starts the timer, so it's effortless. But I kind of want to think that it is not accurate, 8s 0-60 seems ridiculous! But maybe that's just how slow my car is.

65vetteC6
02-27-2013, 05:52 PM
http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/acceleration.html

It does seem slow which is why I asked if you had the ability to compare. Is your car stock?

MaxPain
02-27-2013, 06:40 PM
http://youtu.be/JvAGG1WZaak


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CESeAyPv-LA&feature=youtu.be

I'm not a B7 owner, but I have a PPD in my B5 S4 stage 3. The reading out of it is extremely accurate to say the least. If you time your video you will roughly match the PPD readout of the 8+ seconds. I guess it starts recording the run from the slightest moment the car starting to move until the sensor measures 60mph, the spedo might read a bit above the true speed.

mec
02-27-2013, 07:08 PM
http://www.ross-tech.com/vcds/tour/acceleration.html

It does seem slow which is why I asked if you had the ability to compare. Is your car stock?

nah stage 2, was running apr stage 2+, then switched to maestro and I can run stock pump so I suppose I'm technically stage 2 maestro...weird stuff but no fuel cuts on maestro.

mec
02-27-2013, 08:26 PM
I'm not a B7 owner, but I have a PPD in my B5 S4 stage 3. The reading out of it is extremely accurate to say the least. If you time your video you will roughly match the PPD readout of the 8+ seconds. I guess it starts recording the run from the slightest moment the car starting to move until the sensor measures 60mph, the spedo might read a bit above the true speed.

You're probably right, I just shift like a granny. I will admit it lol. My new connectors should be here tomorrow so I'll throw them on, get the ppd running one more time before I pull the engine on friday :)

rnp614
07-30-2013, 04:21 PM
Any new info here? I just ordered one of these gauges! Have the firmware updates rolled out?

mec
07-30-2013, 05:26 PM
Any new info here? I just ordered one of these gauges! Have the firmware updates rolled out?

Not yet, I also haven't heard of release of the add-on module. But I'm still running mine and it's been great!

Audibot
07-30-2013, 06:18 PM
Mine's running well too. No word on the add-on yet. Since it's been installed, I have had a firmware update, but because for some reason my hpfp readings would toggle around--apparently the ECU had sent some differing signals in a 2007 than expected. As this was a few months ago, I think all the units going out have the latest firmware update. Mine's been working A-OK and I've been meaning to update that thread...

rnp614
07-30-2013, 06:32 PM
How accurate and real-time is the boost? I have a stage 3 but my max boost is probably 21 psi at any given gear. I may just skip running the vacuum line.

Charles.waite
07-30-2013, 06:38 PM
How accurate and real-time is the boost? I have a stage 3 but my max boost is probably 21 psi at any given gear. I may just skip running the vacuum line.

THe boost is only as accurate as the stock MAP sensor can report. Having said that, the stock sensor is pretty accurate. As long as the CAN-bus can sample the boost reading fast enough it should be pretty much real-time.

Audibot
07-30-2013, 06:43 PM
There are two settings--one that reads off the stock MAP sensor, and another that can actually read boost pressure in the unit itself (you hook up a vacuum line). I tend to use the actual vacuum reading, since I feel it's more accurate.

That being said, it does read fast. I mean, the numbers just scroll on by until boost production starts slowing (and the numbers will as well). It also will record max boost and rpm, so you can know what psi you hit at what engine speed. On rare occasions I've hit 23 psi, but normally don't go above 21 psi. I'm hoping with w/m and a new tune, that'll be a thing of the past...

rnp614
07-31-2013, 07:45 AM
I'm potentially going to go from the MAP sensor just to get rid of any extra vacuum lines and prevent future boost leaks sources

seal66
07-31-2013, 09:08 AM
The ste is a nice product for sure. If it would have came out at the same time as the p3 gauge of would have went with it. But, got AFR on my p3 gauge too

rnp614
08-03-2013, 11:47 AM
I installed this as instructed, and then I think its set off the immobilizer. WTF do I do now?

mec
08-03-2013, 12:29 PM
I installed this as instructed, and then I think its set off the immobilizer. WTF do I do now?

You either didn't plug in one of the harnesses all the way, or you turned the key with the immobilizer out. Pull the battery ground for 30 mins. I'm the meantime check all connections. And reinstall.

Audibot
08-03-2013, 12:47 PM
You either didn't plug in one of the harnesses all the way, or you turned the key with the immobilizer out. Pull the battery ground for 30 mins. I'm the meantime check all connections. And reinstall.

^^This. When mine set the immobilizer it was because one of the cables was not plugged in all the way. Unplug it and double-triple-check to make sure that it's plugged fully. It took me a couple extra tries to get this done.

rnp614
08-03-2013, 01:33 PM
when I did it the cluster didnt even light up...not with the STE thing plugged in and not when I put it back to stock. Scanned car with vag and it said the immobilizer was on.

Do you think my cluster is fubar'd or that its just not plugged in all the way?

rnp614
08-03-2013, 01:35 PM
I looked at all the pins etc and none were bent or anything. Could this be because the immobilizer was set off?

rnp614
08-03-2013, 01:41 PM
Just leaving the ground/negative unplugged for 30 mins resets the immobilizer? By ground do you mean remove one of the terminals? Or is it something else enitrely? AAAGHH so frustrating. Had car towed to dealership already.

Audibot
08-03-2013, 02:13 PM
Those pins are not easy to make lock in all the way. The cluster will still light up if it's immobilizer on. It told me in the Odometer section. Something's gotta be up with those pins. And yes, waiting for a while will reset the immobilizer.

rnp614
08-03-2013, 02:15 PM
Damnit. Damnit all to hell.

mec
08-03-2013, 02:25 PM
Damnit. Damnit all to hell.

Step 1 go drink a beer or five. You're getting all worked up over nothing.
Step 2 think critically. If the cluster isn't on then power isn't reaching it. Inspect connections and make sure the battery is juiced and the keys aren't in the ignition until the cluster is wired up

Audibot
08-03-2013, 04:15 PM
Step 1 go drink a beer or five. You're getting all worked up over nothing.
Step 2 think critically. If the cluster isn't on then power isn't reaching it. Inspect connections and make sure the battery is juiced and the keys aren't in the ignition until the cluster is wired up

5 beers is exactly what I'm heading for now! haha seriously check your connections into the ppd and that you connected green to green and blue to blue. check fuses too