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b5a4gt28
02-16-2013, 05:12 AM
As some of you know I got my car tuned but I was having a weird issue of power stopping at 5700 rpms. I brought the car home and checked the marking on the actual cams compared to the rest of the timing marks. Long story short my eurospec cam gear was throwing the timing off. I just ditched that for the time being and went back to the OE cam gear and everything lined up perfect. (I could've kept the europec cam gear but I have to pull the bolts out of it and line up the timing marks with the OE gear first). Once back on the dyno and making some minor adjustments with my fueling the car made 402 wheel at 20 psi. Turn the boost up to 24 psi and made 436 wheel and 360 ft torque. This is all being done on 93 pump gas. No additives, no meth, nothing like that. Right now I decided to keep that 436 as my pump tune. The potential of the car isn't even in sight yet. I can run more boost, more octane, bigger cams, and go back to the adjustable cam gear at any point. I'm going to be making a race fuel file in the spring with roughly 30 psi and looking for the 500 wheel mark. After driving the car as it sits, puts a huge a$$ grin on my face every time. [:D] The car spins first, and chirps second gear on the streets [>_<] Such a blast to drive. Anyways heres some of the footage and pictures from this past dyno session.

OE cam gear, check.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/004-17_zps082f3365.jpg

Don't mind the guy grinding an exhaust behind me[wrench]
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/th_020-9_zpsc3397da3.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/020-9_zpsc3397da3.mp4)

Turbo spin, check.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/004-17_zps7f2fb922.jpg

clean engine bay, check.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/003-22_zpsfbb05715.jpg

400+ wheel horsepower on pump gas, check.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/018-12_zps0c3512ba.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtVubOzZmU&sns=em

Some details on the car are, 2L, 034 IIc, enlarged IM, vr6 tb, revolver cams, supertech valvetrain, HTA 30R .82 hotside, full race mani, 44mm wastegate, 3'' exhaust, 870cc injectors, garrett 600hp intercooler, tial bov, yadaa yadaaaa.

Thread update: Now shooting for 500whp with bigger cams. Revolver cams that are good for at least 450whp are now FS.

b5a4gt28
02-16-2013, 05:16 AM
The video might not play all the way. I tried via photobucket but it seems to be working very poorly.

spindoctor
02-16-2013, 09:46 AM

Seerlah
02-16-2013, 09:55 AM
Sweet!

GetBoosted84
02-16-2013, 08:58 PM
Awesome numbers!

b5a4gt28
02-18-2013, 09:10 AM
Feels stronger than your S4 ?


Yes, absolutely! My A4 has about 40 more whp and revs out further so it feels much faster. I can't get over how hard it pulls :) I see full boost right around 4k and pulls all the way to about 7800 when I shift. Chris we gotta get the b5's in the area together and hit up some dyno days and track events!

w4xm4n
02-18-2013, 09:29 AM
That'll be the day when I make numbers like that :)

mysman
02-18-2013, 09:42 AM
Very nice. Good-looking exhaust manifold with plenty of room for an air filter. Can you pass emissions using the 034 IIc? Is there a visual inspection in your state, lol?

viceprp
02-18-2013, 10:24 AM
Very nice! What cam's will you be running once you get back on the dyno and get the Adjustable cam gear?

Lets see if I have this right:
Revolver Cams : 248/258
Cat Billet 3658 : 269 / 263
Cat Billet 3652 : 283/257 (?)

spindoctor
02-18-2013, 11:18 AM
Let me add.

Piper cams :

Fast road : 252IN / 246EX
Ultimate road: 256IN / 252EX
Competition : 264IN / 268EX

M-Hood
02-18-2013, 01:44 PM
Glad you were able to find the issue and making some good power now.

A4Rob
02-18-2013, 02:00 PM
Nice setup!

GetBoosted84
02-18-2013, 04:07 PM
Chris we gotta get the b5's in the area together and hit up some dyno days and track events!

Sounds good to me. Poopie is coming by so we can finish up my exhaust this week so after that I would like to get a baseline of where I'm at before I start tinkering with my tune with the new setup.

thenj3
02-18-2013, 04:31 PM
sick numbers man. will help me sleep knowing that my car was putting down similar numbers. glad you got your cam issue fixed.

ZimbutheMonkey
02-19-2013, 12:28 AM
Haha, once again the evil monkey is right!!! Well, kinda right... I said it wasn't the revolver cams that were the issue lol.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear you got things sorted out without throwing a bunch of money down the drain. Great results and I hope you enjoy your ride. Now go lay the smack down on some sports car driving douchebags for me will 'ya [up]

SpeedWorksAuto
02-19-2013, 08:17 AM
This is really impressive, especially on the 20psi and 93 oct only. Good job!

Don Supreme
02-19-2013, 08:32 AM
Nice job! Do you have a dyno chart with the TQ?

bw86
02-19-2013, 08:32 AM
Car looks great!

Nice numbers.

s3apra4
02-19-2013, 09:05 AM
Oh how nice it is! [up]

b5a4gt28
02-19-2013, 05:20 PM
Can you pass emissions using the 034 IIc? Is there a visual inspection in your state, lol?

No it wont pass a readiness test. Theres always ways around that if you know what I mean[:p]


What cam's will you be running once you get back on the dyno and get the Adjustable cam gear?

Still undecided about this. Im going back within a month or two with race fuel and more boost just to see if I can conquer 500whp with the car as it sits. If that doesn't go work than I'm thinking a set of 3658's should do the trick or maybe even wait until IE comes out with something again.


Glad you were able to find the issue and making some good power now. Thanks Mike! I'd also like to thank ringer-racing for supplying me with the parts to make all of this possible!


I'm glad to hear you got things sorted out without throwing a bunch of money down the drain. Great results and I hope you enjoy your ride. Now go lay the smack down on some sports car driving douchebags for me will 'ya [up]

Trust me, I will. This car is so incredibly fun to drive and id love to see what I can find cruising down the highway[>_<]


Nice job! Do you have a dyno chart with the TQ?

I do not. The picture of the 436 is the only thing I have kind of. They printed that exact sheet out for me and I did take a picture of the screen when it made 402 but thats about it. When we had looked to see what the torque was, it said 72x for some reason but my tuner guy said divide that by 2, so maybe it was for two runs? Not really sure what the deal was with that but we figured 360ish.


To everyone who else commented, Thank you! To be able to get them kind of numbers and have the car the way it sits wasn't easy. Lots of time, effort, money, blood, sweat, and tears as you guys know. I will keep this thread updated as I may be playing with the 500wheel range soon!

dowsett6
02-19-2013, 06:36 PM
Thanks Mike! I'd also like to thank ringer-racing for supplying me with the parts to make all of this possible!


Speaking of which.. what clutch setup are you using?

I have the 228mm fx400 and my clutch is now slipping at anything above 4000. I'm on the fence of buying a new clutch plate, or going the 240mm fx400 kit.

mykeg6
02-19-2013, 07:08 PM
Speaking of which.. what clutch setup are you using?

I have the 228mm fx400 and my clutch is no slipping at anything above 4000. I'm on the fence of buying a new clutch plate, or going the 240mm fx400 kit.

Slipping or not slipping?

M-Hood
02-19-2013, 11:57 PM
Slipping or not slipping?

Could have also been "now".

034Motorsport
02-20-2013, 07:51 AM
Fantastic! Must be exciting to have figured that out. That's some great power for those cams and there still being more room with the setup.

For those of us who aren't familiar with the 5 speed gear ratios, at what RPM does the torque spike hit?

Going to be tuning my own 034EFI Stage IIc 2.0L very shortly as well.

Dan[FN]6262
02-20-2013, 07:59 AM
congratulations! I'm glad to see that it's working out for you!

Now you don't have to sell it!!! [:p]

b5a4gt28
02-20-2013, 09:03 AM
A little tribute :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFtVubOzZmU&sns=em

M-Hood
02-20-2013, 09:07 AM
Fantastic! Must be exciting to have figured that out. That's some great power for those cams and there still being more room with the setup.

For those of us who aren't familiar with the 5 speed gear ratios, at what RPM does the torque spike hit?

Going to be tuning my own 034EFI Stage IIc 2.0L very shortly as well.

Max are you asking the OP where his torque hits on his car?

b5a4gt28
02-20-2013, 09:20 AM
Billet 3658's were just ordered. Shooting for 5xx whp on pump or close to it.

mysman
02-20-2013, 12:15 PM
No it wont pass a readiness test. Theres always ways around that if you know what I mean[:p]

Yep, I'm way jealous. Back in the day, I used to get all sorts of perks, even courtesy cards from the cops. Sadly, I don't run with the big dogs anymore, lol.

bw86
02-20-2013, 01:14 PM
Billet 3658's were just ordered. Shooting for 5xx whp on pump or close to it.

[up]

Just watched that video - damn that car is clean. Love the IC piping.

Are you running an external oil cooler? Or just sticking with the stock setup.

Poopie
02-20-2013, 02:35 PM
nice. time to play! hit up atco when it gets warmer?

Dan[FN]6262
02-20-2013, 05:13 PM
Very nice! What cam's will you be running once you get back on the dyno and get the Adjustable cam gear?

Lets see if I have this right:
Revolver Cams : 248/258
Cat Billet 3658 : 269 / 263
Cat Billet 3652 : 283/257 (?)

3652 = 269 @ 9.95mm 280 @ 11mm

It has a big boy exhaust cam

dowsett6
02-20-2013, 05:36 PM
Slipping or not slipping?

oh it's slipping



Could have also been "now".

it was supposed to be "now".

ZimbutheMonkey
02-20-2013, 06:49 PM
Also, it's good to know those revolver cams can support at least 430 AWHP. I bet they'd be good to 450 AWHP with more boost and some more timing with W/M.

OP, are you planning on selling them when you get the CAT's?

spindoctor
02-20-2013, 07:17 PM
Also, it's good to know those revolver cams can support at least 430 AWHP. I bet they'd be good to 450 AWHP with more boost and some more timing with W/M.

OP, are you planning on selling them when you get the CAT's?

*hint hint* coughs :p

OP,

Planning to run down the 1/4mile with race fuel ie Q16? :)



Danny

ZimbutheMonkey
02-20-2013, 10:38 PM
*hint hint* coughs :p

Lol, not like I'd be in a position to buy them until late April anyway. But hey, if they're selling around then and IE still hasn't made any more of their cams then I'd certainly be interested in them. Lord knows on my setup, anything would be an improvement on the stock cams [:p]

mykeg6
02-20-2013, 11:01 PM
Lol, not like I'd be in a position to buy them until late April anyway. But hey, if they're selling around then and IE still hasn't made any more of their cams then I'd certainly be interested in them. Lord knows on my setup, anything would be an improvement on the stock cams [:p]

What's the duration of the revolver cams?

We have the same turbo so I kinda wait and see if its good on your car before doing anything. lol

spindoctor
02-21-2013, 03:53 AM
What's the duration of the revolver cams?

We have the same turbo so I kinda wait and see if its good on your car before doing anything. lol

248IN 8.9mm lift / 258EX 10.5mm lift

Wet0willy01
02-21-2013, 04:42 AM
Is PSI PROformance familure with Maestro? I see its ~1hr 45 mins away from me.

Nice numbers, and clean work. Very motivating for me to get my shitbox done.

b5a4gt28
02-21-2013, 04:44 AM
Also, it's good to know those revolver cams can support at least 430 AWHP. I bet they'd be good to 450 AWHP with more boost and some more timing with W/M.

OP, are you planning on selling them when you get the CAT's?

The revolver's have been great to me. Like you said, I think they are definitely still capable of more power as I'm only at 24 psi. Seeing the potential of the car makes me wanna do slightly more aggressive cams, a little more boost and see where I'm at. My cat's should be here next week so that's when I'll be pulling them out. There are several people who may be interested in them but they will be on the market as soon as they come out of my car. Not sure what they're worth but ill look into that later this evening.


OP,

Planning to run down the 1/4mile with race fuel ie Q16? :)

The answer to this question is absolutely! Once I have everything the way I want it than I'm gonna be doing plenty of drag racing. I have my S4 all ready to go for spring show and go where I'll be racing that only because my A4 might not be done in time.

b5a4gt28
02-21-2013, 04:46 AM
Is PSI PROformance familure with Maestro? I see its ~1hr 45 mins away from me.

Nice numbers, and clean work. Very motivating for me to get my shitbox done.

Yes he is familiar with it. Before when we talked about it he said its "a pain in the a$$" but he does do it. Give them a call, extremely great guys over there.

Wet0willy01
02-21-2013, 04:52 AM
Good to know, thanks. I'm glad theres someone local who could tune my car and provide numbers. I'm also shooting for 500awhp on 93+meth.

Believer
02-21-2013, 06:00 AM
Great numbers, very clean looking bay you have there also. [up]

ZimbutheMonkey
02-21-2013, 02:35 PM
The revolver's have been great to me. Like you said, I think they are definitely still capable of more power as I'm only at 24 psi. Seeing the potential of the car makes me wanna do slightly more aggressive cams, a little more boost and see where I'm at. My cat's should be here next week so that's when I'll be pulling them out. There are several people who may be interested in them but they will be on the market as soon as they come out of my car. Not sure what they're worth but ill look into that later this evening.

Yeah, I'm sure they'll be gone long before I'm in a position to be buying [:(] But hey, I'm sure something will pop up once I have the funds to buy, it's always the way it seems to go.

Wet0willy01
03-06-2013, 08:37 AM
updates?

b5a4gt28
03-06-2013, 09:18 AM
Cams are here but I'm finishing up with my buddies S4 anyday now so ill be able to throw the cams in with my adjustable cam gear (set correctly this time) and get back on the dyno. ETA is cams in this weekend, dyno early next week. What I'm shooting for is a 24-25 psi pump tune and then once we have that dialed in I have 5 gallons of 116 ready to go with a couple more psi to back it up. Once 500whp horsepower is achieved, ill be stopping there. My turbo and intercooler will be close to its max I think.

b5a4gt28
03-06-2013, 09:20 AM
Btw getting the cams was not easy to do. 034 ended up getting three sets last week and one set was accounted for. No one else had any readily available.

Wet0willy01
03-06-2013, 09:41 AM
[drive]
Cams are here but I'm finishing up with my buddies S4 anyday now so ill be able to throw the cams in with my adjustable cam gear (set correctly this time) and get back on the dyno. ETA is cams in this weekend, dyno early next week. What I'm shooting for is a 24-25 psi pump tune and then once we have that dialed in I have 5 gallons of 116 ready to go with a couple more psi to back it up. Once 500whp horsepower is achieved, ill be stopping there. My turbo and intercooler will be close to its max I think.

Nice. The weather's to be nice this weekend iirc. I might have my b6 fired up as well [wrench] Doesn't look like my b5 will be though.

Monty23
03-06-2013, 11:28 AM
HMU when you go for your tune...

terraflata
03-06-2013, 12:26 PM
[drive]

Nice. The weather's to be nice this weekend iirc. I might have my b6 fired up as well [wrench] Doesn't look like my b5 will be though.


Sorry to thread jack, noticed your sig says Agtronic, wondering if your near MTL, cause your location says PA.

Wet0willy01
03-06-2013, 01:03 PM
I live in PA.

034Motorsport
03-07-2013, 10:58 AM
Btw getting the cams was not easy to do. 034 ended up getting three sets last week and one set was accounted for. No one else had any readily available.

Same cams I will be running n my car (but I'm going with the factory degree'ed version, pretty much the exact same profiles). We love the 3658's and they are a great all around cam with power from the lower-mid section to the very top. Glad we were able to get some for you.

AudiA4_20T
03-07-2013, 05:24 PM
I live in PA.

Get that POS crankin!

Wet0willy01
03-07-2013, 05:26 PM
soon....

Don Supreme
03-08-2013, 11:14 AM
Same cams I will be running n my car (but I'm going with the factory degree'ed version, pretty much the exact same profiles). We love the 3658's and they are a great all around cam with power from the lower-mid section to the very top. Glad we were able to get some for you.

+1 on the 3658.

I don't think the 3652 is a good cam for this car.

viceprp
03-09-2013, 08:20 AM
+1 on the 3658.

I don't think the 3652 is a good cam for this car.

Or any street car.

GetBoosted84
03-09-2013, 09:14 AM
+1 on the 3658.

I don't think the 3652 is a good cam for this car.





Or any street car.

I'm curious... Any particular reason for the 3652 not being a good choice?

b5a4gt28
03-10-2013, 06:50 PM
well fellassss.......

Cams are in! Thank god for the write up that angle did on installing these cams. The car pulls -9 vac at 1000 rpms. They are super lumpy compared to the revolvers. The car is running really rich and wont idle by itself. Tune is getting revised early this week to make final numbers.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/nextto_zps65ea6800.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/camss_zpscd0d8074.jpg

thenj3
03-10-2013, 06:57 PM
awesome!! get a video of this thing rumbling must sound bad ass with those cams.

spindoctor
03-10-2013, 07:36 PM
Sure they're not 3652s? :p

Video of lumpy idle would be awesome :)

034Motorsport
03-11-2013, 07:02 AM
What did you end up degree'ing them at?

flynnr
03-11-2013, 08:54 AM
How easy was it for your tuner to tune your car with IIc ? I can't find anyone around me that is a Pro at it. There is a guy that has been doing mine, but I have never, ever, had a decent idle... kinda sucks :\

I should just mimic your setup and have you send me your tune ;)

b5a4gt28
03-11-2013, 08:57 AM
I have everything set to zero as of right now. I see on the site you guys recommend 114 degrees but we're gonna degree it for my setup on the dyno which should be close to that.

b5a4gt28
03-11-2013, 09:01 AM
How easy was it for your tuner to tune your car with IIc ? I can't find anyone around me that is a Pro at it. There is a guy that has been doing mine, but I have never, ever, had a decent idle... kinda sucks :\

I should just mimic your setup and have you send me your tune ;)

Yeah I was in your same situation before. No one around here is familiar with the 034 standalone specific. My tuner is an all around tuner and do practically anything. He has zero issues. Makes it look so easy and that's why he does what he does.

b5a4gt28
03-18-2013, 08:10 PM
Just walked in the door from being on the dyno tonight. Gained 17 wheel horse power over revolver cams. 24/25 PSI, old 93 pump gas, all the cam settings set to 0, 453 wheel. The revolvers made 436 on 24/25 psi. We were gonna do a race fuel file but they were all out of stock. I should've brought some but they usually have it on hand. There's always the future for that. Ive pretty much maxed out my 870's so Im kinda limited if I wanted to push the car more on pump fuel. Its funny, on low boost like 20-22 psi we saw 430 wheel lol The car is a beast for sure. Im just gonna leave it for now. Pretty impressed with only running pump fuel and not too high of boost levels.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/014-22_zps005ae963.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/th_013-25_zps4a1cce5a.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/013-25_zps4a1cce5a.mp4)

Poopie
03-18-2013, 08:34 PM
nice

mykeg6
03-18-2013, 08:50 PM
Why don't you install methanol injection?

Methanol is cheap compared to race gas and you only inject it while on boost.

spindoctor
03-19-2013, 12:14 AM
Just walked in the door from being on the dyno tonight. Gained 17 wheel horse power over revolver cams. 24/25 PSI, old 93 pump gas, all the cam settings set to 0, 453 wheel. The revolvers made 436 on 24/25 psi. We were gonna do a race fuel file but they were all out of stock. I should've brought some but they usually have it on hand. There's always the future for that. Ive pretty much maxed out my 870's so Im kinda limited if I wanted to push the car more on pump fuel. Its funny, on low boost like 20-22 psi we saw 430 wheel lol The car is a beast for sure. Im just gonna leave it for now. Pretty impressed with only running pump fuel and not too high of boost levels.

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/014-22_zps005ae963.jpg
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/th_013-25_zps4a1cce5a.jpg (http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/013-25_zps4a1cce5a.mp4)


Hang on. Did it get a retune?

b5a4gt28
03-19-2013, 03:34 AM
Yes, there was lots that had to be tweaked after swapping out the cams. The car wouldnt even idle and ran really rich just from changing the cams and nothing else.

GetBoosted84
03-19-2013, 03:34 AM
Just walked in the door from being on the dyno tonight. Gained 17 wheel horse power over revolver cams. 24/25 PSI, old 93 pump gas, all the cam settings set to 0, 453 wheel. The revolvers made 436 on 24/25 psi. We were gonna do a race fuel file but they were all out of stock. I should've brought some but they usually have it on hand. There's always the future for that. Ive pretty much maxed out my 870's so Im kinda limited if I wanted to push the car more on pump fuel. Its funny, on low boost like 20-22 psi we saw 430 wheel lol The car is a beast for sure. Im just gonna leave it for now. Pretty impressed with only running pump fuel and not too high of boost levels.

John what was your fuel pressure set at for those runs? I wasn't paying attention to your fuel pressure gauge while the car was getting dyno'd. Great #s though. Can't wait to see what my car puts down on Saturday.

spindoctor
03-19-2013, 03:37 AM
John what was your fuel pressure set at for those runs? I wasn't paying attention to your fuel pressure gauge while the car was getting dyno'd. Great #s though. Can't wait to see what my car puts down on Saturday.


Chris, yours a GT3076 as well ? :)

spindoctor
03-19-2013, 03:39 AM
Yes, there was lots that had to be tweaked after swapping out the cams. The car wouldnt even idle and ran really rich just from changing the cams and nothing else.


oh yeah, sorry my bad John lol...forgotten about that idle being super rich. Still have a lumpy idle?


Would love to see an idle/free revving video




Danny

GetBoosted84
03-19-2013, 04:10 AM
Chris, yours a GT3076 as well ? :)
I have a Comp CT2-5156 extended tip now. First one they made :-). Should be interesting.


oh yeah, sorry my bad John lol...forgotten about that idle being super rich. Still have a lumpy idle?

Would love to see an idle/free revving video

Danny
John's idle is really smooth IMO considering how lumpy those cams are. Sounds really nice. I should have taken a video while he was on the rollers but I was paying attention to the numbers he was putting down.

Wet0willy01
03-19-2013, 06:04 AM
Wow I would have expected more then a 17whp gain. But you're still on low boost I guess.

spindoctor
03-19-2013, 06:09 AM
I have a Comp CT2-5156 extended tip now. First one they made :-). Should be interesting.


John's idle is really smooth IMO considering how lumpy those cams are. Sounds really nice. I should have taken a video while he was on the rollers but I was paying attention to the numbers he was putting down.


Nice! iirc, the exducer on yours would be 71mm but the extended tip pokes out like 2-4mm more. Yes, its gonna be very interesting :)


Being lumpy, they could be 3652s wrongly boxed LOL

b5a4gt28
03-19-2013, 06:34 AM
After putting a tiny hole in the tb flap the idle is great. It was real lumpy and stubborn before adjusting the tune and making that hole. As Chris said, it's super smooth now. Idles around 1k-1100. Chris base pressure is 60psi. That's where it sits at idle and then goes up from there. You left after run 21 and run 22 was the 453 lol. We let the car sit again and adjusted the fueling up top and bam 453. Fueling is spot on 11.4-6 throughout the whole range. I'm gonna come by Saturday and watch your car. Steve said those cams should be perfect for your set up.

spindoctor
03-19-2013, 06:56 AM
After putting a tiny hole in the tb flap the idle is great. It was real lumpy and stubborn before adjusting the tune and making that hole. As Chris said, it's super smooth now. Idles around 1k-1100. Chris base pressure is 60psi. That's where it sits at idle and then goes up from there. You left after run 21 and run 22 was the 453 lol. We let the car sit again and adjusted the fueling up top and bam 453. Fueling is spot on 11.4-6 throughout the whole range. I'm gonna come by Saturday and watch your car. Steve said those cams should be perfect for your set up.

Hey John,

What sort of TB do you have? 453 on pump @ 22psi is mad. Cant imagine race fuel 35psi :)

Wet0willy01
03-19-2013, 07:25 AM
453 on pump @ 22psi is mad. Cant imagine race fuel 35pski :)

X2 impressive numbers. Anxious to see you crank it up.

b5a4gt28
03-19-2013, 09:21 AM
24/25 on old pump fuel netted me 453. It's the DBC vr6 65mm tb. Works great. 17 HP doesn't seem like a lot but to the wheels I'm definitely happy. The revolvers cams definitely had a nice grind to them. As I mentioned a little bit ago my tuner said those cams will be perfect for Chris's setup. They were good for mine but I obviously benefitted from something slightly more aggressive. I might do a race fuel file in the future but 453 is enough to keep a smile on my face haha.

Monty23
03-19-2013, 09:54 AM
453 is enough to keep a smile on my face haha.

You will get used to it and want more [evilsmile]

034Motorsport
03-19-2013, 10:22 AM
24/25 on old pump fuel netted me 453. It's the DBC vr6 65mm tb. Works great. 17 HP doesn't seem like a lot but to the wheels I'm definitely happy. The revolvers cams definitely had a nice grind to them. As I mentioned a little bit ago my tuner said those cams will be perfect for Chris's setup. They were good for mine but I obviously benefitted from something slightly more aggressive. I might do a race fuel file in the future but 453 is enough to keep a smile on my face haha.

Fantastic! Stoked to hear that you netted nearly 20whp without even getting into things all the way.

450whp on pump gas is awesome.

GetBoosted84
03-19-2013, 10:33 AM
After putting a tiny hole in the tb flap the idle is great. It was real lumpy and stubborn before adjusting the tune and making that hole. As Chris said, it's super smooth now. Idles around 1k-1100. Chris base pressure is 60psi. That's where it sits at idle and then goes up from there. You left after run 21 and run 22 was the 453 lol. We let the car sit again and adjusted the fueling up top and bam 453. Fueling is spot on 11.4-6 throughout the whole range. I'm gonna come by Saturday and watch your car. Steve said those cams should be perfect for your set up.

Dammit. lol, I missed the crown jewel run. Thanks for the heads up on your fuel pressure. I was wondering where you had it set it. I won't have the cams in for Saturday but I want to see how I do without them. Need a baseline to work from.

034Motorsport
03-19-2013, 12:00 PM
PS. Any reason you didn't just use a throttle stop instead of drilling a hole?

b5a4gt28
03-19-2013, 12:49 PM
I knew someone was gonna ask. Drilling a hole vs a throttle stop makes it easier for the tuner because then it doesn't mess with the tps. I guess the point was to get it to idle smooth without the throttle being opened ever so slightly. It's a little trick he uses for cars with bigger cams. Turned out perfect.

034Motorsport
03-19-2013, 01:39 PM
I knew someone was gonna ask. Drilling a hole vs a throttle stop makes it easier for the tuner because then it doesn't mess with the tps. I guess the point was to get it to idle smooth without the throttle being opened ever so slightly. It's a little trick he uses for cars with bigger cams. Turned out perfect.

Cool, I was just curious as I'd never really heard of anyone doing that before. Whatever works!!!!!

b5a4gt28
03-19-2013, 06:53 PM
Can this car ever stay the same? So after doing some pulls on the back roads around my house, 25 psi got the best of my IM. JM fabrications custom made it for me as they are notorious for DSM Drag manifolds and components. They make only top notch parts and I think this just flexed too much under boost. I will be getting it repaired tomorrow and along with that I ordered some ID1000's :D Next visit on the dyno will dial in the new injectors on pump and 100% FOR SURE RACE FUEL!!!! Enjoy my minor carnage hehe


http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/002-16_zps1bfba16f.jpg

GetBoosted84
03-19-2013, 07:02 PM
"You'll blow the welds on your intake manifold"
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Vjnn1j76874/TZWLubqYreI/AAAAAAAAIO0/rEzCvungUHE/s1600/The%2BFast%2Band%2Bthe%2BFurious%2B5%2B%25281%2529 .jpg

That sucks! Hey this is a great excuse to upgrade a bit more.

Poopie
03-19-2013, 07:24 PM
probably needs thicker plating. thats a pretty manifold too.

Poopie
03-19-2013, 09:16 PM
just another question, is your vac causing any braking issues? running the stock booster?

mykeg6
03-19-2013, 10:16 PM
Danger to the manifold! lol

ZimbutheMonkey
03-20-2013, 11:32 AM
Looking at the weld, I'd say that whoever did it probably didn't get enough heat into the material and the weld didn't penetrate properly. I learned that one from a welding instructor who showed me a very similar looking weld vs one with more penetration. Problem with aluminium is that you can have a weld that for all intents and purposes looks good, but it just didn't get quite enough heat.

Just to be clear too, I'm not trying to play Monday morning quarterback either. I'm sure the shop you went to does good stuff, it's just that Aluminium is a fickle bitch to weld properly (ask me how I know [:p]). But if it's the case that the weld allowed it to balloon and pop like that at only 25 PSI, there's a good chance it's weak elsewhere around that whole joint where it mates w the stock portion of the manifold and it'll pop again when you crank it up some more. I'd seriously consider getting the plenum cut off and re-welded all around that joint.

Poopie
03-20-2013, 06:52 PM
theres a lot of surface area so 25 psi X whatever area that top plate is is a lot of force. easily every time he goes WOT hundred of pounds push on that plate making it flex and eventually broke like an overused paper clip.

b5a4gt28
03-20-2013, 07:21 PM
Dropped the manifold off today and spoke with the owner. Their DSM manifolds have been tested up to 50psi with no issues. The aluminum is eighth inch T6 aluminum plating which they use on all their manifolds. They have full custody of the manifold and are gonna go over everything to make sure its good for whatever boost levels may be.

Heres a similar manifold.
http://www.jmfabrications.com/store/products/EVO-Race-Version-Intake-Manifold.html

ZimbutheMonkey
03-21-2013, 01:27 PM
I'm sure they'll get it figured out. Like I said, I think it was just a case of too little heat. I know when I welded mine up I cranked the heat on the TIG way up to get good penetration and so far it's held at 30+ PSI (knock on wood). Then again I made my welds on 1/4 inch aluminium too.

http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo238/tlillo1/CSIM007-1_zpsf9921dc6.jpg
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo238/tlillo1/CSIM009-1_zpsc5809d7c.jpg
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo238/tlillo1/CSIM008_zps57f83a43.jpg
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo238/tlillo1/CSIM011-1_zps7684029d.jpg
http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo238/tlillo1/CSIM013-1_zpseda6322a.jpg

Poopie
03-25-2013, 09:20 AM
Decided to my my revolvers for sale if anyone in this thread is interested. Good enough for 430whp! haha PM me if you're interested. I have them at $500 on the vortex, but just throw me an offer.

ZimbutheMonkey
03-25-2013, 12:11 PM
Poopie, ever dyno that 5858?

Poopie
03-25-2013, 01:04 PM
not yet. Swapping my stock aeb head out first and refreshed aeb head with valvesprings and schrick cams in and a new wiring harness since mine has odd shorting issues in the rain. I hope sometime next month. After that i'm building a tube manifold, upgrading clutch and injectors to shoot for more power.

scboost
03-25-2013, 01:22 PM
Do those revolvers require a tune. could just an average joe with elim turbo run them?

b5a4gt28
03-25-2013, 01:40 PM
If you have an elim turbo, them cams would be perfect for you. It may run a little different but may not require much or any revisions. Poops, where did you get the schricks from? Arent they super rare or something?

AudiA4_20T
03-25-2013, 02:16 PM
Nice, I blew the welds on my intake back in the day too. Laughed for a good 5 minutes after I realized what happened. Scared the hell out of me when it happened though

b5a4gt28
04-10-2013, 09:25 AM
In addition to fixing my IM, I put a phenolic IM manifold spacer on since it was all apart anyways. My ID1000's are in and I'm going back on the dyno today to dial them in. Anyone wanna guess what klotz 118, more boost and timing has in store?

thenj3
04-10-2013, 09:49 AM
how aggressive you gonna push? i think 520ish wheel is achievable on 118

Monty23
04-10-2013, 09:55 AM
In addition to fixing my IM, I put a phenolic IM manifold spacer on since it was all apart anyways. My ID1000's are in and I'm going back on the dyno today to dial them in. Anyone wanna guess what klotz 118, more boost and timing has in store?

Its like 90 out today! you should wait till this weekend when it cools off!

Your poor trans ;)

b5a4gt28
04-10-2013, 11:27 AM
Ill push it hard but nothin unsafe. I'm not gonna crank the boost too much. Probably 26-30 psi depending on power levels. Monty, I'm kinda bummed about the heat but on a plus side it'll be tuned for the weather it's mostly driven in. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

Wet0willy01
04-10-2013, 11:44 AM
Man I should have came by today when they were tuning it to check out the shop. GL.

034Motorsport
04-10-2013, 11:44 AM
Ill push it hard but nothin unsafe. I'm not gonna crank the boost too much. Probably 26-30 psi depending on power levels. Monty, I'm kinda bummed about the heat but on a plus side it'll be tuned for the weather it's mostly driven in. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

^^^^ That!

Looking forward to your new results.

GetBoosted84
04-10-2013, 12:52 PM
In addition to fixing my IM, I put a phenolic IM manifold spacer on since it was all apart anyways. My ID1000's are in and I'm going back on the dyno today to dial them in. Anyone wanna guess what klotz 118, more boost and timing has in store?

So does this mean you will take it to the Show n' Go :-) ?

M-Hood
04-10-2013, 03:03 PM
Its like 90 out today! you should wait till this weekend when it cools off!

Your poor trans ;)

It is best to tune it for hot weather since that is the worst condition the car will see. Any body can make big power in cold weather. lol



Ill push it hard but nothin unsafe. I'm not gonna crank the boost too much. Probably 26-30 psi depending on power levels. Monty, I'm kinda bummed about the heat but on a plus side it'll be tuned for the weather it's mostly driven in. Oh well, we'll see what happens.

Has Chris gone back to the dyno?

Poopie
04-10-2013, 07:25 PM
no updates? that means its broken [:(]

b5a4gt28
04-11-2013, 08:38 AM
Nah, not broken. My fuel pressure is 60 psi base. With 20lbs of boost the pressure climbs to 80, holds for a split second, then bounces around a bit and dips. The car is still over there and I'm heading over after work to run a separate power supply for the fuel pump instead of using the OE connector. Even though the fuel filter isn't that old I may replace that too. Never had any fuel pressure issues before but maybe the bigger injectors are asking for more than my old injectors. I'm currently running a Bosch 044 unit with the bigger basket.

Poopie
04-11-2013, 08:50 AM
damn 60 psi base? why so high? need it high for fuel atomization on the ID1000s?

M-Hood
04-11-2013, 08:55 AM
Nah, not broken. My fuel pressure is 60 psi base. With 20lbs of boost the pressure climbs to 80, holds for a split second, then bounces around a bit and dips. The car is still over there and I'm heading over after work to run a separate power supply for the fuel pump instead of using the OE connector. Even though the fuel filter isn't that old I may replace that too. Never had any fuel pressure issues before but maybe the bigger injectors are asking for more than my old injectors. I'm currently running a Bosch 044 unit with the bigger basket.

Might want to lower your base fuel pressure since the higher fuel pressure is causing the pump to move less fuel. So lowering the fuel pressure allows for more fuel from the pump but decreases your amount of fuel your injectors can spray. You just have to find the middle ground for both or you end up upgrading one or the other.

ZimbutheMonkey
04-11-2013, 01:16 PM
damn 60 psi base? why so high? need it high for fuel atomization on the ID1000s?

I dunno, doesn't seem that high. I run 60 PSI base pressure and 30 PSI boost pressure (total of 90 PSI at WOT) on my 630s using an inline Walboro 255 with the stock fuel pump feeding it. That said, they're pretty much maxed out at that point.

M-Hood
04-11-2013, 02:36 PM
I dunno, doesn't seem that high. I run 60 PSI base pressure and 30 PSI boost pressure (total of 90 PSI at WOT) on my 630s using an inline Walboro 255 with the stock fuel pump feeding it. That said, they're pretty much maxed out at that point.

It isn't high but 3 bar would be better since he wants more fuel out of the pump till he has gotten to the point of maxing out his injectors. Turning the base pressure up is a band aid to not having big enough injectors but it doesn't help the fuel pump at all since higher pressure means more resistance to flow. At this point he isn't out of injector since he just put the 1000cc injectors in. So he is actually making a problem by turning it up the pressure vs just running it at 3 bar.

GetBoosted84
04-11-2013, 02:39 PM
I dunno, doesn't seem that high. I run 60 PSI base pressure and 30 PSI boost pressure (total of 90 PSI at WOT) on my 630s using an inline Walboro 255 with the stock fuel pump feeding it. That said, they're pretty much maxed out at that point.

Sorry in advance for going off topic...

Inline in a surge tank or just straight inline? Sounds scary, what's your injector duty cycle look like?

M-Hood
04-11-2013, 02:46 PM
Sorry in advance for going off topic...

Inline in a surge tank or just straight inline? Sounds scary, what's your injector duty cycle look like?

Running them inline doesn't really do much since the 2nd pump flow doesn't really increase by much, all it does is change how much the 1st pump can flow since the pressure between it and the 2nd pump is much lower. Only true way to run 2 pumps is in parallel which doubles the flow.


I tried the 2 inline Walbro pumps on my car with 034 and it didn't do squat to give me more fuel, which is why we then switched to just a single 044 pump in my tank which then maxed out at about 580awhp on race gas.

ZimbutheMonkey
04-11-2013, 03:21 PM
Running them inline doesn't really do much since the 2nd pump flow doesn't really increase by much, all it does is change how much the 1st pump can flow since the pressure between it and the 2nd pump is much lower. Only true way to run 2 pumps is in parallel which doubles the flow.


I tried the 2 inline Walbro pumps on my car with 034 and it didn't do squat to give me more fuel, which is why we then switched to just a single 044 pump in my tank which then maxed out at about 580awhp on race gas.

Yeah, but takes a lot of the strain off of a 10 year old stock fuel pump. In hindsight I probably should have just gone with a different in-tank, but what's done is done. At least now all the stock pump needs to do is feed the Walboro and it takes the bulk of the strain generating the line pressure.

But to answer Boosted84's question, it's an inline pump. As for duty cycles, it's an AEB, so I'm maxed out at 80% DC no matter what. So once I'm into WOT, DC maxes out pretty quick once the turbo spools, but the additional manifold pressure is what gives it more fuel (if that makes any sense)

Realistically I need to get some 1000cc injectors, but for the time being between the pressure I'm running and the water/meth my A/F ratios are pretty much exactly where I want them. But if I decide to try running bigger cams, E85, Methanol etc... I'll need to up the injector size.

GetBoosted84
04-11-2013, 03:34 PM
Running them inline doesn't really do much since the 2nd pump flow doesn't really increase by much, all it does is change how much the 1st pump can flow since the pressure between it and the 2nd pump is much lower. Only true way to run 2 pumps is in parallel which doubles the flow.


I tried the 2 inline Walbro pumps on my car with 034 and it didn't do squat to give me more fuel, which is why we then switched to just a single 044 pump in my tank which then maxed out at about 580awhp on race gas.

I was referencing the surge tank because it can aid in ensuring that if a pump should go, it's going to be a more immediate loss of fuel instead of a degradation in flow which could lean him out.


Yeah, but takes a lot of the strain off of a 10 year old stock fuel pump. In hindsight I probably should have just gone with a different in-tank, but what's done is done. At least now all the stock pump needs to do is feed the Walboro and it takes the bulk of the strain generating the line pressure.

But to answer Boosted84's question, it's an inline pump. As for duty cycles, it's an AEB, so I'm maxed out at 80% DC no matter what. So once I'm into WOT, DC maxes out pretty quick once the turbo spools, but the additional manifold pressure is what gives it more fuel (if that makes any sense)

Realistically I need to get some 1000cc injectors, but for the time being between the pressure I'm running and the water/meth my A/F ratios are pretty much exactly where I want them. But if I decide to try running bigger cams, E85, Methanol etc... I'll need to up the injector size.

Gotcha. Thanks for indulging me.

Anyway, back on topic. John, I want to see some serious numbers out of that beast. Well more serious then what you already put out [:D] .

034Motorsport
04-11-2013, 04:32 PM
Is the 044 new? Used? Running stock feed line?

How about your FPR? Running a crushed 5BAR or an adjustable?


Running them inline doesn't really do much since the 2nd pump flow doesn't really increase by much, all it does is change how much the 1st pump can flow since the pressure between it and the 2nd pump is much lower. Only true way to run 2 pumps is in parallel which doubles the flow.


I tried the 2 inline Walbro pumps on my car with 034 and it didn't do squat to give me more fuel, which is why we then switched to just a single 044 pump in my tank which then maxed out at about 580awhp on race gas.

That's exactly where my single 044 in the tank maxed out with my 2.7T. 4BAR and 750cc injectors, 25psi, started going lean above 580whp, pump gas.

b5a4gt28
04-16-2013, 02:19 PM
Is the 044 new? Its a couple years old but hasn't been used all that much. Running stock feed line? Yup, all stock lines.

How about your FPR? Im using an adjustable Aeromotive FPR


After running the separate positive and negative for the pump, made a big difference. Got both my files made up now. The pump file is 22 psi and 43xwhp and the race fuel file is 26 psi and 464whp, 390tq. We heat soaked the car pretty good but were still able to make them numbers. Still on the conservative side with 11.0-6 afrs and not pushing the boost through the roof. The car still has race gas left in the tank and man is it fast!!! The car is right where I want it. Good tune, hardly any lag, lots of power, and a clean bay. I was orginally shooting for 400whp. That was my goal. I always said anything over 400 would make me happy. Now time to finish the exterior and the little things and finally enjoy it.[wrench][:D][:D][:D]

Poopie
04-17-2013, 09:10 PM
solid numbers man. we need a b5 gtg soon once all the cars are running....aka mine. haha

GetBoosted84
04-18-2013, 05:04 AM
Poopie, you gotta get your car fixed so we can all head to the track. Also, you need to get it running before I get the RX-7 street legal. lol, like that will ever happen.

M-Hood
04-18-2013, 07:51 AM
Poopie, you gotta get your car fixed so we can all head to the track. Also, you need to get it running before I get the RX-7 street legal. lol, like that will ever happen.
Chris did any of you run at the Show & Go last weekend?

GetBoosted84
04-18-2013, 08:37 AM
No I missed it :-(. I was working on my other car over the weekend. Poopie's car was down for the count & John was playing with his tune.

Here's my other mistress who ate up my time over the weekend...
http://i47.tinypic.com/2rejwpi.jpg

M-Hood
04-18-2013, 08:55 AM
You guys should it the track before it really starts to warm up. Hell I wish I still had a local track to run at, both tracks here in Arizona are closed right now.

b5a4gt28
04-18-2013, 09:09 AM
I didnt run either B5 but I did place second in the b5/b6/b7 a4/s4 class with my S4 :) I'm thinking we hit the track soon. I'd really like my A4 to be all one color though lol. Picking up a real facelift euro trunk next week! Also the noggy valence is coming off because I have a euro rear bumper that is black and my front bumper is brown. Too many different colors >|

GetBoosted84
04-18-2013, 12:50 PM
lol, multi-color makes it look like a VW Harlequin :-) Let me know when you want to head down. I'm game.

Monty23
04-19-2013, 12:02 PM
What track do you guys go to? I want to head out to one asap!

b5a4gt28
04-19-2013, 01:58 PM
E-town, Cecil or even Numedia would be ideal.

GetBoosted84
04-19-2013, 03:48 PM
Maple Grove at 30 Stauffer Park Ln Mohnton, PA 19540 is another option.

Monty23
04-22-2013, 06:09 AM
I am going to Maple Grove on May 3rd if any of you guys want to go....

b5a4gt28
04-22-2013, 09:20 AM
The grudge nights are fun but they are packed and you only get 2 runs out of the whole night. Kinda sucks to go all the way out there and only run a few times. A test and tune might be better.

b5a4gt28
04-22-2013, 09:21 AM
Either way, I'm down for whatever.

BlueBoostedAudi
04-22-2013, 11:53 AM
Blue Boosted Audi will be there!!

GetBoosted84
04-22-2013, 12:35 PM
Do they have any test & tunes coming up as well? I can't find any info on the website about it. Anyway, perhaps we could do both? I'm going to check my schedule for May 3 though.

Here's the schedule for the grudge matches at maple grove for all interested, http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/blog/?page_id=181.

Monty23
04-23-2013, 06:25 AM
ATCO seems to have some more test/tune and street racing days. Looks like the have test/tune at least every Tuesday.

If Maple Grove isn't going to be any good, then I might just go to ATCO on May 3rd for test and tune. Check out their schedule here: http://www.atcorace.com/

Poopie
04-23-2013, 06:43 AM
i'm down for test and tune

Monty23
04-23-2013, 07:10 AM
I think Atco is definitely the better option then.

Let's plan for Friday May 3rd at Atco instead. Is anyone going to bring a car trailer, I would chip in for gas ;)

Poopie
04-23-2013, 07:27 AM
i think chris and john both do. haha. so just 1 out of the 3 cars needs to be able to run afterwards.

b5a4gt28
04-23-2013, 09:00 AM
Yeah I'll have my trailer Fo shooo. Too risky without it. I'm still a little uncertain how I'm gonna get off the line with this baby. I think anything to hard is gonna cause an issue somewhere in the driveline.

Poopie
04-23-2013, 10:07 AM
same here. I at least need to get the stern power rings to lock the diff into place a little more. not sure if my clutch will take hard launches. Gonna have to just roll it off the line.

We might just be battling for trap speed. haha

GetBoosted84
04-23-2013, 10:17 AM
lol, yeah my car is a trailer queen when I go to the track. I don't feel like having to bother with getting towed if something bad happens. I have to fix an oil leak so tech will pass me but I should be all set after that.

Does atco enforce the rule about having a fire jacket for any power adder cars? I guess technically the audi doesn't fall into that category since it did have a turbo from the factory but I'm not sure how much of a stickler they are. Englishtown doesn't seem to care about it but I don't know about atco.

Monty23
04-23-2013, 10:23 AM
This is how I plan to leave the line ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paqRResp-fA

b5a4gt28
04-23-2013, 11:36 AM
Poopie - stating the obvious, I would definitely have every mount upgraded as possible. I have all apikol mounts in the rear of both my B5's and they feel great. I'm mainly concerned with my old axles and trans lol

Chris - For the fire jacket I'm almost positive you don't need one. You'll need a DOT helmet that's all.

Justin - that's exactly what I have in mind. I've launched my S4 a million times but this is going to be different. Lots of rpms, more power, and smaller axles haha but I'm not scared. Even rolling off the line, I'm still hoping for somewhere in the 12's.

Monty23
04-23-2013, 12:03 PM
Well this will be my first time to the track, so I am just hoping I don't make a fool of myself lol.

M-Hood
04-23-2013, 01:18 PM
Poopie - stating the obvious, I would definitely have every mount upgraded as possible. I have all apikol mounts in the rear of both my B5's and they feel great. I'm mainly concerned with my old axles and trans lol

Chris - For the fire jacket I'm almost positive you don't need one. You'll need a DOT helmet that's all.

Justin - that's exactly what I have in mind. I've launched my S4 a million times but this is going to be different. Lots of rpms, more power, and smaller axles haha but I'm not scared. Even rolling off the line, I'm still hoping for somewhere in the 12's.

The A4 axles actually hold up better then the stock S4 axles.

GetBoosted84
04-23-2013, 06:28 PM
Poopie - stating the obvious, I would definitely have every mount upgraded as possible. I have all apikol mounts in the rear of both my B5's and they feel great. I'm mainly concerned with my old axles and trans lol

Chris - For the fire jacket I'm almost positive you don't need one. You'll need a DOT helmet that's all.

Justin - that's exactly what I have in mind. I've launched my S4 a million times but this is going to be different. Lots of rpms, more power, and smaller axles haha but I'm not scared. Even rolling off the line, I'm still hoping for somewhere in the 12's.

Very cool. I have my auto-x helmet so I'm good there. Some tracks are more anal about things like that then others. I'm not sure what I'll be bringing but I should be good to go. What time do you guys want to head down? We could do a caravan.

Cgoon009
04-23-2013, 07:00 PM
The A4 axles actually hold up better then the stock S4 axles.

Could you elaborate? I did not know that, is it because they are thicker or are the connections beefier?

catbed
04-23-2013, 07:04 PM
Could you elaborate? I did not know that, is it because they are thicker or are the connections beefier?

I believe s4 axles are hollow, whereas a4 axles are solid.

Cgoon009
04-23-2013, 07:23 PM
Thanks, good to know

GetBoosted84
05-02-2013, 07:41 PM
See you guys tomorrow. Going to be a blast! Can't wait to see how we all do. John, if we can I would like to line up my car next to yours just to see how we do against each other.

thenj3
05-02-2013, 07:52 PM
good luck guys. hope you don't break anything. make sure to bring some cameras.

Poopie
05-03-2013, 05:26 AM
I'm ready for racewars, but my overnight order from Japan is not. In running the stock CC. Lol

Monty23
05-03-2013, 05:46 AM
Going to be a fun day today! Party starts @ 4:30

GetBoosted84
05-03-2013, 08:23 AM
I'm ready for racewars, but my overnight order from Japan is not. In running the stock CC. Lol

http://media.entertainment.sky.com/image/unscaled/2009/4/2/The-Fast-The-Furious-01.jpg

Going to be fun!

b5a4gt28
05-04-2013, 06:48 AM
Everyone had a good time yesterday. The single turbo S4 ran faster by a hair but I made 7+ passes and never left the 12's. Even with the worst launch possible (2.306 60') I still ran in the 12's. The A4 has some serious trap speed. Both cars on race fuel and my buddy will be making a video shortly. Poopie and Chris had fun also but both agreed they shouldve had their A4's. Btw Aaron I have your glove that Justin was using.

A4 best time
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/006-30_zps930f2817.jpg (http://s215.photobucket.com/user/b5a4gt28/media/006-30_zps930f2817.jpg.html)

S4 best time
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/008-23_zpsa151d673.jpg (http://s215.photobucket.com/user/b5a4gt28/media/008-23_zpsa151d673.jpg.html)

Poopie
05-04-2013, 07:33 AM
Both s4 and the a4 were impressive for full weight cars. I ran the left lane on johns run. My super quiet Vw cc helped John concentrate at the line. Haha

M-Hood
05-04-2013, 07:44 AM
Everyone had a good time yesterday. The single turbo S4 ran faster by a hair but I made 7+ passes and never left the 12's. Even with the worst launch possible (2.306 60') I still ran in the 12's. The A4 has some serious trap speed. Both cars on race fuel and my buddy will be making a video shortly. Poopie and Chris had fun also but both agreed they shouldve had their A4's. Btw Aaron I have your glove that Justin was using.

A4 best time
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/006-30_zps930f2817.jpg (http://s215.photobucket.com/user/b5a4gt28/media/006-30_zps930f2817.jpg.html)

S4 best time
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc165/b5a4gt28/008-23_zpsa151d673.jpg (http://s215.photobucket.com/user/b5a4gt28/media/008-23_zpsa151d673.jpg.html)

Nice numbers, with a better launch and you should be in the 11's. With the better launch the trap speed will come down a few MPH.

Monty23
05-08-2013, 09:53 AM
Funny thing is my 12.1 run was without the race gas lol. But I am running water/meth.... The 105 race gas didn't really do much for me.

These logs were from ATCO on 5/3
Here is 93 pump + meth:

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i385/JMont23/ATCOknockpumpmethonly_zps9232a07b.jpg


Here 50% 93 pump + 50% 105 racegas + meth

http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i385/JMont23/ATCOknockpumpmethracegas_zpsb0b24ab7.jpg

M-Hood
05-08-2013, 10:08 AM
Unless the car is tuned for the race gas putting race gas in the tank isn't going to do anything other then maybe decrease the amount of power the engine is making.

Monty23
05-08-2013, 11:19 AM
I really just put it in for safety in case my meth stopped working. I leaned out on my 2nd pass of the night due to my meth line acting up on me... Its really hard to pay attention to the AFR gauge and the tach, all while trying to shift in such a way that the stock shift knob doesn't come flying off lol

M-Hood
05-08-2013, 12:56 PM
I really just put it in for safety in case my meth stopped working. I leaned out on my 2nd pass of the night due to my meth line acting up on me... Its really hard to pay attention to the AFR gauge and the tach, all while trying to shift in such a way that the stock shift knob doesn't come flying off lol

Might want to just look at doing a race tune that runs straight race gas and no w/m.