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Will be ordering a Q5 2.0T in a few months. Been checking out some threads and I was looking to see if anyone has a vent boost gauge for the Q5. I couldn't find any. Even checked venders. Does anyone have one or found someone with one?
D_Frost
10-29-2012, 06:49 PM
Not that many out there... but the closest one would probably be the ones for the B8 A4/A5's...
AWE Tuning's boost gauge - http://www.awe-tuning.com/products/audi-1/a4/a4-2009/2-0t/awe-b8-ventgauge.html
P3 vent boost gauge - http://www.p3cars.com/catalog/b8/
The shape of the vent for the B8's aren't the same, but you might be able to rig up an adapter for it.
Or else an alternative to the vent would be on the steering column:
Podi Gauges - http://www.podi.ca/P1Packages.aspx?CarID=11
Good luck!
I emailed two companies yesterday. I sent AWE-tuning an email asking if they have anything in the works for a Q5. I think though the best option for a better fit will be PODi. So I went ahead and shot them an email as well to see if they ever test fitted the steering column pod on a Q5. As you said and what I assumed as well is that the B8's will be the best option to a better fit. When I get replies from the two companies, I will post them on here to keep anyone that is interested informed.
Thanks for the help,
Scott
ThunderDent
10-30-2012, 10:11 AM
Hmmm, that vent gauge looks interesting. I may check that out. It says it fits all B8 models.
D_Frost
10-30-2012, 01:15 PM
I'm leaning towards the Podi when I look at Stage 3 ;) It should fit fine as long as you have the boost tap available.
The good thing about the P3 is that it reads directly from OBD so no need to wire through the firewall.
ThunderDent
10-30-2012, 02:13 PM
Yeah, but I really like the look of the AWE gauge one over the digital. And I don't want anything sitting on top of the steering column etc.
The AWE one has factory looking needles/background/lighting,and sweeps on start up. I hope it fits as I'll prob add it to my list.
Got an email back from AWE, no luck. Nothing in the works and doesn't fit Q5. They did say they would contact if something were to happen.
ThunderDent
10-30-2012, 07:32 PM
Hmm, bummer. It says on the page B8 2.0T, excludes class, all body, all drivetrain, all transmission.
Hopefully something will work out.
B8
http://www.redlineblog.com/autos/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/audi-a4-2008-interior.jpg
2013 Q5
http://automiddleeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2013-Audi-Q5-dashboard-614x406.jpg
It looks like the Q5 is a bit longer (by 3-4 slats). And the base of it is narrow.
Hmm, bummer. It says on the page B8 2.0T, excludes class, all body, all drivetrain, all transmission.
Hopefully something will work out.
ThunderDent
10-30-2012, 08:06 PM
http://www.osirusa.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=OU&Product_Code=DL-BOOSTOILKIT&Category_Code=VRAB
The OSIR one says it will fit the Q when you google search it. They are really pricey in all their products tho.
ThunderDent
10-31-2012, 08:34 AM
Spoke with Bill at AWE Tuning. Let him know there is some interest there in their product. He said he will bring it up.in their next meeting and see what can possibly be done for the Q5.
They do have a 2.0T Q5 there on site for designing, so hopefully something may be done for us.
D_Frost
10-31-2012, 01:35 PM
Spoke with Bill at AWE Tuning. Let him know there is some interest there in their product. He said he will bring it up.in their next meeting and see what can possibly be done for the Q5.
They do have a 2.0T Q5 there on site for designing, so hopefully something may be done for us.
Niiice... hopefully it will be as easy to install...
Sweet! So I emailed podi about there steering column gauge, asking if they have test fitted them or have done any work. This is the response:
"Hello,
I have not tested any of out pods on a Q5 for compatibility.
If you are able to pop off the column cover and provide me the product part number and some pictures I can determine from that if the B8 solution will work or not.
Regards,
Winston"
Not bad. So my next question for you guys, would anyone like to pop the stop of the steering column and grab the part number for me and post it on here? I would but I don't have a Q5 yet. lol Still saving up for some cash for a nice down payment. Hoping by X-max I would have enough to order one and wait 3 months. Also I am also going to email P3cars to see if they have done anything. So at least then you have 2 options for a boost gauge. (vent, steering column)
ThunderDent
10-31-2012, 04:48 PM
I'm going to wait and see what AWE comes back with. I don't want something on my steering column obstructing my gauge view. And I'm not a fan of the digital sensors.
The AWE gauges look exactly like the factory, are lit the exact same way as the factory gauges, and even needle sweep on start up.
If they don't come up with something, or something almost exactly like it comes about, I probably won't do it.
Got an email back from p3cars:
"Yes, we have tested for both of these vehicles . We will be launching a product after the first of the year that will work in both Q5's and with a variety of engines available all over the world in that platform . We will be posting details about these new items on our twitter and Facebook first ( @p3cars and Facebook.com/p3cars ). Keep an eye on one of those for details. I wish we had one for you straight away but we spend months developing for each platform to insure solid readings , fit and finish , etc.
Thank you very kindly for your interest in our product.
Cheers,
Tim"
But I'd have to agree with you, I like the AWE/vent gauge better.
ThunderDent
11-01-2012, 08:09 PM
Thanks for the update.
Sweet! So I emailed podi about there steering column gauge, asking if they have test fitted them or have done any work. This is the response:
"Hello,
I have not tested any of out pods on a Q5 for compatibility.
If you are able to pop off the column cover and provide me the product part number and some pictures I can determine from that if the B8 solution will work or not.
Regards,
Winston"
Not bad. So my next question for you guys, would anyone like to pop the stop of the steering column and grab the part number for me and post it on here? I would but I don't have a Q5 yet. lol Still saving up for some cash for a nice down payment. Hoping by X-max I would have enough to order one and wait 3 months. Also I am also going to email P3cars to see if they have done anything. So at least then you have 2 options for a boost gauge. (vent, steering column)
You can pop into the dealership parts counter and ask them to look it up on their ETKA system.
I would do this for you but my dealer moved and is now a 45 minute drive away. [down]
And just to clarify.. your quote in post #16 was not from Podi.
ThunderDent
11-02-2012, 02:51 PM
Do you have a photo of one of these installed. The Podi page just shows the product. I don't want something blocking my other gauges. I might be interested if I knew what it looked like installed.
The B8 solution does not block any information, it is my most perfect design to date.
This picture shows you the location, but due to the camera angle it does not show you a true view of what you would see when sitting in the car. The gauge is positioned in the space below the 8000rpm zone and the DIS display.
When the pod is installed it does not interfere with your forward telescope and tilt of the steering wheel.
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/415615_385089538187627_539496564_o.jpg
ThunderDent
11-02-2012, 03:15 PM
That may be doable. I'd still like to see a "driver's angle" view of it at some point if you get a chance to snap a pic like that.
Does it needle sweep on start up like the AWE gauge does?
Do you have to remove the steering wheel to install it?
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The one big drawback I see to the vent boost gauge would be the reflection in the window/mirror. It's bad enough now with the silver bezel on the vent ...lol
I don't notice it anymore, but I bet I would if it was a lit up gauge.
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Spijun if he checks in here has all of the EKTA PDFs on his computer. He could find a number I'm sure.
So we are for sure going to be seeing one of these podi gauges for the Q5? I'd want it for spring if so.
D_Frost
11-02-2012, 03:16 PM
Tempting... will need to look you guys up once I get a boost tap since I'm only 2 hours away from Vancouver :)
That may be doable. I'd still like to see a "driver's angle" view of it at some point if you get a chance to snap a pic like that.
Ask in the B8 forum for pictures as I unfortunately do not have the $$$ to own one
Does it needle sweep on start up like the AWE gauge does?
Yes
Do you have to remove the steering wheel to install it?
No. You can see how a B8 solution is installed here. A Q5 may be similar.
Thanks for the correction on post #16. Emailing people left and right. lol
I like how this is[up]. I have a gauge like this on my MkIV Jetta and never had problems with the view. I didn't know you guys had one that is on the left side. All the other ones that I saw on the website where to the right.
The B8 solution does not block any information, it is my most perfect design to date.
This picture shows you the location, but due to the camera angle it does not show you a true view of what you would see when sitting in the car. The gauge is positioned in the space below the 8000rpm zone and the DIS display.
When the pod is installed it does not interfere with your forward telescope and tilt of the steering wheel.
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/415615_385089538187627_539496564_o.jpg
ThunderDent
11-02-2012, 05:56 PM
Scratch the comment on the window reflection. I see all my gauges if I look out the window, and I never pay attention to that.
I looked over the room on the column/gauges. I'm not going to do the column mounted. Just don't like the look.
Here is a page that has several other kits. Some may work for Q5, not sure. The CIM gauge is a center vent mount and they make it for a B8, and those vents are the same on all B8 models.
http://golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18730
Still planning on seeing what AWE comes up with, if anything.
Posted on PODi Facebook page and asked if there were plans for a Q5 boost gauge. They responded and has been brought up.
You can pop into the dealership parts counter and ask them to look it up on their ETKA system.
I would do this for you but my dealer moved and is now a 45 minute drive away. [down]
And just to clarify.. your quote in post #16 was not from Podi.
Anyone interested on popping off there 2012/13 steering wheel column to get a part number? I would but my Q5 isn't assembled yet. Lol
boomtime
04-25-2013, 03:30 PM
Anyone interested on popping off there 2012/13 steering wheel column to get a part number? I would but my Q5 isn't assembled yet. Lol
Yea, i can do this but apparently i need a small torx, im assuming t8 but not sure thats longer than 6 inches and very thin, none of mine reach.
To avoid buying the snapon 4 piece set for $70+, im waiting until the next time im at my friends auto shop where i think ive seen long thin torx drivers... once i know which size it is I wouldnt mind paying snapon for a single long think torx driver in that size.
Yea, i can do this but apparently i need a small torx, im assuming t8 but not sure thats longer than 6 inches and very thin, none of mine reach.
To avoid buying the snapon 4 piece set for $70+, im waiting until the next time im at my friends auto shop where i think ive seen long thin torx drivers... once i know which size it is I wouldnt mind paying snapon for a single long think torx driver in that size.
I have a VW/Audi parts guy that I'm friends with looking up the part number and comparing it to the A4 model to see if it is the same.
To give an update for everyone, AWEtuning will not make a vent style to hold a gauge. With so few Q5 owners, they won't make a profit. So it is going to come down to a steering column mount style.
boomtime
05-07-2013, 07:02 PM
yea even with the right long drivers I couldnt get the shroud off the column after removing a screw and trying to remove the second.
being that its a brand new car and i dont like rattles and Im not installing a boost gauge yet anyway... I gave up on this for now.
Once APR figures out the new Audi ECU for EMCS reflash then I will start modding the car but for now....I dont like rattles.
yea even with the right long drivers I couldnt get the shroud off the column after removing a screw and trying to remove the second.
being that its a brand new car and i dont like rattles and Im not installing a boost gauge yet anyway... I gave up on this for now.
Once APR figures out the new Audi ECU for EMCS reflash then I will start modding the car but for now....I dont like rattles.
No worries. I'll get the info and post on here.
ThunderDent
05-07-2013, 08:08 PM
That stinks that AWE won't have any solutions for us.
I'm still strongly considering a boost gauge. Still looking at vent mounted though. Just don't like the column mounts.
The B8 center mount (left vent) are the same for Q5/A4/S4/A5/S5, so those may work where the side mounts do not.
I'm looking into these.
http://conceptsinmotion.net/store/store?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=2&category_id=32
After some research online, it appears that the manufacturer of both the AWE and CIM gauges is a company called OMORI.
boomtime
05-07-2013, 08:36 PM
I was already considering the electric w/sender over the vacuum-line-thru-firewall idea when the time comes. The CiM looks decent considering the alternatives. As for the vent if its not ridiculously expensive (although i suspect it is), then id be willing to procure a spare and use it as a prototype for DIY option. I dont understand why the vendors only support the far drivers side vent, maybe cause the pillar mount is popular. Especially if the left center vent is the same for those models...
That stinks that AWE won't have any solutions for us.
I'm still strongly considering a boost gauge. Still looking at vent mounted though. Just don't like the column mounts.
The B8 center mount (left vent) are the same for Q5/A4/S4/A5/S5, so those may work where the side mounts do not.
I'm looking into these.
http://conceptsinmotion.net/store/store?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=2&category_id=32
After some research online, it appears that the manufacturer of both the AWE and CIM gauges is a company called OMORI.
AWE and PODI use the same type of gauge, just different faces. No it's just finding a good mounting mount. Vent mount would of been awesome because it is out of the way and looks clean. Steering column is about the only other option. It's a nice look, I just don't care that much to have the gauge in front of other gauges.
I ask my parts guy about the steering column part number again (I think he forgot). I also shot an email to P3cars. Just trying to get something for us Q5 owners. P3cars gauge really isn't that bad either.
http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server400/k0wz20i/products/30/images/125/b8_2__14325.1357694848.1280.1280.JPG
Alright, here is the important info!
For those that like the column mount set-up, I sent a message to PODi with the part number. For your info the Upper cover on the Colin is part number 8R0-953-515-***. There are three color choices, grey, beige or black. Black is most common and color code is 6PS. A4 is a different number.
NOW HERE COMES THE EXCITING STUFF!
I had been email with a P3cars REP today, there is a vent digital gauge coming out for us. Here is the kicker, if we can get at least 20 people interested in for an order, we can have it by June. So if you are interest, let me know and we can get a list going. starting now!
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ThunderDent
05-10-2013, 04:28 PM
Damn. Really wish it was a needle gauge. I'd jump on that in a second. Those digital gauges are distracting and not near as cool looking, IMO.
Stinks they decided to do the digital over the needle gauge.
I've sent 2 emails to CIM and gotten no response so far.
Damn. Really wish it was a needle gauge. I'd jump on that in a second. Those digital gauges are distracting and not near as cool looking, IMO.
Stinks they decided to do the digital over the needle gauge.
I've sent 2 emails to CIM and gotten no response so far.
Trust me I would like to have the needle vent gauge, but it isn't going to happen with AWEtuning. Nothing yet on a column gauge and P3cars is the only one offering a gauge for our cars.
So no digital gauge for you?
ThunderDent
05-10-2013, 05:02 PM
Nope. I'd be all over any needle gauge that is vent mount. Don't even care what vent.
I really hate the obstructed view on the column mount. It looks really busy, but maybe that's what I'll have to do. I don't want to have to rig a vent gauge. I want it to look OEM.
The digital gauges are just not for me. Some may like them. Just not me.
Nobody from CIM is getting back with me, so if I get one at all, I may have to go with PODI. I guess I just contact them and order one with the part number 8R0-953-515-6PS...??? THen I'd get the gauge and the mount matching my black column cover to swap out? I really haven't decided on the column mount....
Since the A4/S4/A5/S5/Q5 all have the same center vents, It sucks that there isn't a center vent option.
Nope. I'd be all over any needle gauge that is vent mount. Don't even care what vent.
I really hate the obstructed view on the column mount. It looks really busy, but maybe that's what I'll have to do. I don't want to have to rig a vent gauge. I want it to look OEM.
The digital gauges are just not for me. Some may like them. Just not me.
Nobody from CIM is getting back with me, so if I get one at all, I may have to go with PODI. I guess I just contact them and order one with the part number 8R0-953-515-6PS...??? THen I'd get the gauge and the mount matching my black column cover to swap out? I really haven't decided on the column mount....
Since the A4/S4/A5/S5/Q5 all have the same center vents, It sucks that there isn't a center vent option.
I gave them the part number so they can make them. So it still has to go in work. From what I understand, it's still on the drawing board.
ThunderDent
05-10-2013, 05:30 PM
Cool. Guess I'm in wait mode again.
Really want to get something soon. Thanks for all your footwork on this one though.
idale
05-10-2013, 06:09 PM
I really hate the obstructed view on the column mount. It looks really busy, but maybe that's what I'll have to do. I don't want to have to rig a vent gauge. I want it to look OEM.
Doesn't seem like the column mount would be obstructing the view of anything else, though it's hard to tell from the press shots (all down low, usually). And of course it's information where you don't usually look for it, so that could end up feeling a bit "wrong".
Someone just needs to come up with an in-dash gauge like someone had done years ago for the B5/B5.5 Passat:
http://www.impconcepts.com/vwpassatgauges/vwpassat2002cluster20.jpg
[:D]
(Okay, not totally OEM look, but still, pretty stealthy and didn't take up too much room. [:)])
boomtime
05-13-2013, 06:10 PM
ive always despised the x100 tach, even before i was a VAG owner.
im so happy the Q5 doesnt have that otherwise i would not have bought one.
as for the rainbow boost gauge, its creative but not for me, id prefer the needle also.
Is there any way you can pop your column cover off and send me some pictures of it with a ruler beside it so I can gauge some dimensions?
From the research I have done the Q5 column does seem very similar to the B8 design I have already made, but every time Audi decides to change one letter on a part number it could change how the part fits.
One quick way you can determine if the B8 column cover is the same as the B8 is to swap column covers with a B8 owner. If your top cover fits perfectly in his car, and vice versa, we have a solution for you.
AWE and PODI use the same type of gauge, just different faces. No it's just finding a good mounting mount. Vent mount would of been awesome because it is out of the way and looks clean. Steering column is about the only other option. It's a nice look, I just don't care that much to have the gauge in front of other gauges.
Podi and AWE gauges are not the same gauge.
ThunderDent
05-29-2013, 03:45 PM
I forwarded our messages along.
I wish I had access to am A4/A5 so I could just try the swap.
Anyone on here have both in the garage?
Guess we could always try a test fit with the PODI cover you have with one of our Q5's. Or if you have one on site or could get one in to test fit the A4/A5 cover.
I really hope this works out.
If there are any Q5 owners in the Vancouver, BC area I can meet up with them to do a test fit.
SEXICÄN
05-29-2013, 05:41 PM
If there are any Q5 owners in the Vancouver, BC area I can meet up with them to do a test fit.
Seattle is close, right?
ThunderDent
05-31-2013, 05:10 AM
Any luck on getting a Q5 owner for test fitment?
If not, I'd be willing to test fit if we can get a cover shipped to me.
Or I could just buy the kit I want, and return it if fitment was not working.
Any luck on getting a Q5 owner for test fitment?
If not, I'd be willing to test fit if we can get a cover shipped to me.
Or I could just buy the kit I want, and return it if fitment was not working.
Sounds like a great idea.
ThunderDent
06-04-2013, 03:01 PM
Popped off my column cover, and sent pics to Winston at Podi. If things match up we can use the existing B8 cowling cover.
If not, then we'd have to get 200 prepaid orders to get them to fabricate one for our steering column.
Let's hope for a fit.
More to come...
ThunderDent
06-04-2013, 03:34 PM
He said the Pod is a no go. The B8 design they offer does not match up (of course it doesn't, why would anything work for us). He first suggested grafting the B8 pod onto our cover (cutting, epoxy, sanding, painting) to get it to work, but said he didn't even think that would work due to the shape of the Q5 cowling cover.
So he said he'd make us one, but there would have to be 200 prepaid orders to do it.
I'm not gonna waste my time asking, because I'll never get 200 orders on here. But if you want one, chime in, I guess.
I hate that no one has a solution for us at all, besides P3, and no one wants a digital read out boost gauge.
I just want to clarify the offer I proposed.
The Q5 is a limited market segment, so I am open to designing a solution but at $20,000 per injection mold design I am unwilling to take on the project only to sell a handful of unit. If the Q5 community wants the solution then I just ask that they mitigate the risk by prepaying for an order.
This concept of making a new product was born on VW Vortex when the Golf R owners approached me asking if I would make a blue needle gauge. After a few weeks of discussion I presented them the rules, a 100 order minimum was fulfilled in a week, tooling was made, gauges produced and everyone is happy.
So before deciding that getting 200 prepaid orders is not possible, understand that it can be done and it all depends on if the Q5 community wants it to happen or not.
ThunderDent
06-04-2013, 03:56 PM
I like the enthusiasm Winston.
I spent over 8 months working on our RS grille, which we finally got, but out of the 50 interested parties, we only got like 9 paid orders. Anyway, I'm going to start a thread on here, and on AW with this info (linked to here to keep things all in one place), and we'll see how we do.
Post in that one if you would like to as well.
idale
06-04-2013, 04:29 PM
Kudos to Winston and TD for getting a first step done. Sad that the B8 solution doesn't work (seems a little crazy that something like the steering column cover wouldn't be the same with how closely-related the Q5 is to the A4/A5), but it is what it is. And if there's enough interest then a proper product can be made! Totally understand not wanting to go through the time and expense of creating a product only to not even make back the initial investment (for some reason losing money isn't a good business methodology... go figure).
Obviously 200 sounds insurmountable, but you never know. Just because there's not been too many people on this particular thread doesn't mean there's not more lurkers, or people on other boards, or people not on any boards (though I expect the last is pretty small). The offer's been made, we know the details, and it's not like there's a specific time limit where you'd need 200 people in the next week. [:)]
I thought the 100 order target for the blue needle gauge was not going to be reached, but as you stated, there are a lot of lurkers who never post up but may be willing to make a purchase.
Of the first 200 orders over 50% of them were made by people who found out about the project from the Vortex thread but have never registered on the site. So just get the word out and see what interest comes back.
If there is decent initial interest I will make a purchase page similar to Kickstarter where people can place their order, if the deadline to reach 200 orders is not met all funds are refunded.
idale
06-04-2013, 05:17 PM
Posted a link on my G+ feed (publicly) for most likely nobody useful to see. But it's a start! [:D]
ThunderDent
06-04-2013, 05:21 PM
The kickstarter type page is a great idea.
Let us know when it goes up, so we can start adding to it!
Maybe since all the new 3.0T's are boosted as well, we'll start getting enough people to do this. Post a link in this thread and the other one to the "kickstarter" type page when you get it up. Let's add to this list!!
If you make a single place to go for that winston, I'll link it to Twitter and FB to all the Audi pages I know of. Just need a single place for anyone who sees it to be taken to so they can purchase/add to the list.
I'll start putting something together and will link here here when it is ready.
ThunderDent
06-04-2013, 09:55 PM
Thank you!
D_Frost
07-09-2013, 09:45 PM
Didn't want to go OT with the group buy thread so decided to post here... another alternative for a boost gauge would be to integrate it into the DIS (which was available in the as part of laptimer in the RS models enabled via VAGCOM):
http://getste.com/
They have something for the B7 S4, which I think has similarities with the B8's. Not sure if they will have something for the B8 yet but it might be a stealthy option for those who may not want something as obvious.