Time to sell?

[NetMagi]

Just curious for those of you that may be on your second B8, or those that sold previous S4's still in their "prime", how long did it take to sell, and how much ultimately did you end up coming down?

Change in family circumstances has my 2011 for sale, and have gotten maybe 2 legit bites so far, but not high enough to close the deal. I've had it for sale for about 3 wks so far (autotrader, craigslist, and the classifieds here)

Thoughts?

-Rich H.

[Rodmar]

how many miles and what you looking to get?

[NetMagi]

how many miles and what you looking to get?

ohh yeh good point, I guess I should have shared the relevant info :P

7k miles, asking 48.9k

all the info here:

http://web1.netmagi.com/s4/

-Rich H.

[13S4]

First off that is a solid for-sale add. I hate when people do a half ass job of trying to sell a vehicle.

Second I don't think you will be able to get 48,900 for it privately. New 2013's are selling for only a few thousand dollars more. The reality is that the car is 2 years old, and all though it only had 7000 miles the re-design is going to hurt the value. Your price is on par with those selling in Canada, and we always pay at least 10-15% more.

[well_armed]

I concur, overpriced.

[NetMagi]

I concur, overpriced.

What do you think is realistic? I came to that price by averaging kbb, nada, and edmunds and the rounding down a bit.

-Rich H.

[audi1234]

I concur, overpriced.

I agree.... I just saw a CPO 2012 prestige same mileage for cheaper than yours..... I would say somewhere around 45k

[korben]

Always better to base your list off the market in your area as opposed to the inflated KBB/NADA numbers... probably 47 if you can wait a little while, 46 if you want to move it IMO.

[Rodmar]

I was gonna say 45k is a solid price in all honesty.

[MrFunk]

Just keep dropping it 1k every few weeks, or 500 every week... All of a sudden you will hit a price point where you will get a lot of interst. It's hard to determine where that point is if you're not in the business, so just keep slowly dropping the price... Most people will put a cap in their search ex. 50k, or 45k, or 47.5k... etc. You may be in a price point where you are loosing a lot of audience but you drop 500 bucks and all of a sudden you fall into more people's search criteria.

I personally think it's priced acurately...

Don't forget - this time of year is not the best for selling cars. Spring traditionally is hot and fall/winter is slow.

[Rodmar]

Use carguru.com to figure out a good price point.

Heres an example
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?sourc eContext=carGurusHomePage_false_0&newSearchFromOverviewPage=true&embedType=NONE&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c22217&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity2=c22217&uncached=false&showInactive=false&newCarsOnly=false&useInventoryService=true&name=entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity&includeAllModelsOption=false&carsWithRegressionOnly=false&ign-makerId-entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=m19&heading=All+Years&ign-modelId-entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d30&includeUnknownTrimOption=false&carsWithRegressionOnly=false&ign-carId-entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c22217&ign-car2Id-entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=c22217&zip=57106&distance=NATIONWIDE&modelChanged=false&searchChanged=true&sortType=DEAL_RANK&sortDirection=ASC#listing=43833872

[well_armed]

I find kbb and the other sites to be much higher than what it actually sells for.

For example, I just sold my Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited. It was the only one for sale all loaded in the Northwest.

KBB had the car at $28.5K and I sold it for $26.5K

[dparm]

I suggest you ask $47,000. You will probably get a sale around $46,000 if you wait, or $45,000 if you're in a hurry.

[Rodmar]

KBB and other places prices aren't on the same page as the market....The only way you'll know what you'll get for your car is to go by what the market is selling something similar if not the same for....and that's why I use Carguru.com, autotrader.com and any other sites used to actually sell cars. That'll give you an idea on price, and I found one similar to yours with only 4k miles for 44k and that's their starting price, you could prolly get them to go lower so 45k, sounds reasonable to me. But it's just my .02 and really depends on your area. Although the one I linked was in the upper east coast area where prices are higher and AWD is a must, and they again only wanted around 45k at their starting price even.

[DavidD]

What are the offers you have right now?

[bpollock]

Beautiful car - do you know if the CPO is transferable? As a prospective buyer (I am in the market for 2010 or 11) it does seem higher than what I have seen for asking prices at dealers. Just offering honest feedback, a two owner car, even with such low miles, seems less desirable than a one owner with a lower price.

Are there any mods at all?

[Rodmar]

Beautiful car - do you know if the CPO is transferable? As a prospective buyer (I am in the market for 2010 or 11) it does seem higher than what I have seen for asking prices at dealers. Just offering honest feedback, a two owner car, even with such low miles, seems less desirable than a one owner with a lower price.

Are there any mods at all?

this 3 owners within 2 years

[focusaudi]

That is a really good quality ad. You are definitely going to attract buyers. I paid your asking price for a 2012 DSG prestige with same options plus rear shades and AWE exhaust/intake with 7k miles. You have a manual which costs less than the DSG. I would price it at 46-47. I sold my previous car on ebay, which was painless to say the least. If cars.com or autotrader doesn't work, try ebay. I would NOT put an Audi S4 on craigslist.. WAY too many scammers. People don't look to buy $50k cars on craigslist, they look to rip you off.

[NetMagi]

KBB and other places prices aren't on the same page as the market....The only way you'll know what you'll get for your car is to go by what the market is selling something similar if not the same for....and that's why I use Carguru.com, autotrader.com and any other sites used to actually sell cars. That'll give you an idea on price, and I found one similar to yours with only 4k miles for 44k and that's their starting price, you could prolly get them to go lower so 45k, sounds reasonable to me. But it's just my .02 and really depends on your area. Although the one I linked was in the upper east coast area where prices are higher and AWD is a must, and they again only wanted around 45k at their starting price even.

It did look similar, but had different wheels, no sport diff in the rear, etc.

Personally, I find the S4's bland without the sport diff. Makes the car in my opinion :)

-Rich H.

[NetMagi]

What are the offers you have right now?

highest offer to date is 43, from someone that would buy it, and then sell/lease it again.

-Rich H.

[Rodmar]

ill do 44

[NetMagi]

Beautiful car - do you know if the CPO is transferable? As a prospective buyer (I am in the market for 2010 or 11) it does seem higher than what I have seen for asking prices at dealers. Just offering honest feedback, a two owner car, even with such low miles, seems less desirable than a one owner with a lower price.

Are there any mods at all?


Only the factory warranty would apply, but it's 100% intact. Car has never been modded so no concerns over engine warranty, etc.

Yeh. . 7k with 2 owners. . I know, what the heck right? :)

1st owner: Bought it to "hold himself over" while waiting for an RS5. He traded it in the same day his RS5 arrived with 4k on the clock.
2nd owner: Me, can't believe I'm selling it, but family first. Let's just say you should always expect the unexpected :)

-Rich H.

[NetMagi]

That is a really good quality ad. You are definitely going to attract buyers. I paid your asking price for a 2012 DSG prestige with same options plus rear shades and AWE exhaust/intake with 7k miles. You have a manual which costs less than the DSG. I would price it at 46-47. I sold my previous car on ebay, which was painless to say the least. If cars.com or autotrader doesn't work, try ebay. I would NOT put an Audi S4 on craigslist.. WAY too many scammers. People don't look to buy $50k cars on craigslist, they look to rip you off.

Thanks for the compliments on the ad. Yes, scammers abound on craigslist. At this point, I can tell right away and enjoy effing with them in email replies :) I think your 46-47 estimate for an actual "agreed price" is very reasonable. I know I wouldn't need too long to think about 47. . 46 would be a longer thought process :)

-Rich H.

[NetMagi]

ill do 44

Appreciate the offer, and it's not insulting or out of the question if I have no movement on this in the next few weeks, but it's too low to consider at this point.

-Rich H.

[S4charged]

I paid 43,500 for my CPO 2010 S4 Prestige. Same Color as yours, Fully Loaded with every option just like yours. Also had brand new tires and Audicare. It had 19K on the odometer.

Manual too.

[evanpm]

I don't know how solid an add can be without a single picture of the interior.

[audi1234]

http://microsites.audiusa.com/ngw/11/media/downloads/pdfs/us/Audi_CPO_Warranty_Transfer_Application_AUG_2011.pd f

CPO is transferable check the link

I sold my CPO S5 and the warranty was completly transferable

[SteveYem]

IMO your asking price is not out of whack. I recently paid $44.9k for a 2012 PP 6MT with 21k on the clock. It is a well-optioned PP, but not a Prestige. Mine was purchased from a used imports dealer but has the balance of the factory warranty and the AudiCare package which transfers to me. Being that yours is 'mint' condition inside and out, I think your price is OK.

EDIT: And for what it's worth, I wish I had seen this two weeks ago when I bought mine. I probably would have put out the extra cash to get a prestige in white. Oh well, spilled milk.....GLWS

[focusaudi]

I don't know how solid an add can be without a single picture of the interior.

true, def need pics of the interior

[b6onboost]

You have to price it based on the market.

Take a look on autotrader and see what similar cars' asking prices are. Ultimately these are your competition. Don't scoff at other cars just because they are missing a few options, like Sport Diff or ADS or if its not a Prestige, because not every potential buyer values that. Also realize that to most buyers warranty matters more than miles. A CPO with 30k miles is a better value than a non-CPO with 5k miles. Finally consider that once you get into the high $40s the idea of negotiating a decently optioned 2013 model begins to make more sense than buying preowned.

Just begin incrementally lowering the price until you have more interest.

[staticuxo]

just an FYI, i bought my 2011 with same exact options and 18k miles for 44k even in august.. so you are priced a bit high, but hang in there, you might get some offers over 45k

[S4charged]

just an FYI, i bought my 2011 with same exact options and 18k miles for 44k even in august.. so you are priced a bit high, but hang in there, you might get some offers over 45k



was yours a CPO?

[chbrook]

I paid 45k in August for a 10' w/ 19" Wheel, NAV, Carbon Inlays, CPO ** 15k Miles ** CPO @ the dealership. It was Black/Black w/ the 6 Speed Manual <-- high order bit for me. Not ready to toss it in "drive" and give up my third pedal. Slight jab at my DSG guys ;) @dparm (Couldn't help it w/ the prev Man/DSG threads w/ been in -- much respect to your knowledge though so no hard feelings)

May have been a tad over priced but @ that point I was tired of looking in my area +/- 300 miles and wasn't to concerned w/ a k to 2 to the left or right since I was putting a ton of money down + my B7 A4 trade in. Different circumstance, but the right buyer for your car is out there, either lower the price or hold out -- up to you, your $$. I for one, got into the B8 S4 *partly* (that's how I sold it to the wife) for the family circumstance. The rear facing car seat was not doing well in the B7 A4 -- fits great in the B8 + I'm counting the days until I throw him in a Recaro booster. He's @ 8 months and can already tell he'll be a 4 rings type of guy!

[CreoSTi]

I'm counting the days until I throw him in a Recaro booster.

It'll look much better... [;)]

[s4buckeye]

1. it is an "ad" and not an "add" fwiw;

2. get it on autotrader.com, cars.com and Craigslist. spotting a scam is not hard - just don't send a $1000 money order to Russia;

3. do not put "or best offer" unless you really have no intention of ever getting your asking price;

4. agree with the lack of interior shots, get them in there;

5. black your plate out, scammers get your info and plate it could be trouble; and

6. look at cargurus.com for real time pricing on what the same car is going for nationwide.


glws.

[NetMagi]

1. it is an "ad" and not an "add" fwiw;

2. get it on autotrader.com, cars.com and Craigslist. spotting a scam is not hard - just don't send a $1000 money order to Russia;

3. do not put "or best offer" unless you really have no intention of ever getting your asking price;

4. agree with the lack of interior shots, get them in there;

5. black your plate out, scammers get your info and plate it could be trouble; and

6. look at cargurus.com for real time pricing on what the same car is going for nationwide.


glws.


Thanks for the suggestions. It's on craigslist and autotrader now. I actually find the craigslist scams amusing if nothing else. I hear you on the plate, and maybe I'm naive but the scammers can see my plate (and my VIN) when I park at the mall too. That said, I'm not handing out the VIN to anybody without verifying their interest with a phone call.

As far as price, I don't actually expect to get what I'm asking. I'd take 47. . . I just feel like if I put 47, ppl are going to lowball even further and/or walk away because they get frustrated feeling like they can't "win" by haggling the price down :) Maybe I'm wrong. .

Interior shots. Yeh, big miss on my part. . and it's gorgeous inside too. Carbon fiber inlays with the full black/silver leather and white stitching. I need to get the camera back out.

Thanks again,

-Rich H.

[FrankO]

Rich - you def have a nice car and need to show off that interior. I paid $52.5 for my 2013, comparably equipped with the added interior goodies and facelift. Those hurt you and guess you are no more than $46K w/o CPO. Best of luck and hope you get more.

[NetMagi]

Rich - you def have a nice car and need to show off that interior. I paid $52.5 for my 2013, comparably equipped with the added interior goodies and facelift. Those hurt you and guess you are no more than $46K w/o CPO. Best of luck and hope you get more.

Took everyone's advice and not only put up interior pics, but an interior/exterior video and lowered the asking price.

How's it look?

http://web1.netmagi.com/s4/

-Rich H.

[FrankO]

Took everyone's advice and not only put up interior pics, but an interior/exterior video and lowered the asking price.

How's it look?

http://web1.netmagi.com/s4/

-Rich H.

Looks great. 4 months back I would have been interested. Best wishes.

[NetMagi]

Had one company want to set me up with a "closed end use agreement" where they would find someone to buy the car and organize that individual making payments to me directly. They cover payments in the event the individual fails to.

I'm not considering it seriously at this time given some pretty big risks like:

1) difficulty in repossessing car if I had to
2) liability (even though they of course provide a signed doc saying I'm not liable. . I imagine I am STILL liable if the driver ran into someone and fled)
3) recourse for damage to the car if the person stops paying it and returns it (or abandons it) is about as likely as pigs flying.

Regardless, I'm curious if anyone on here has any experience with this alternative to selling.

-Rich H.

[NetMagi]

Arggghhh. . . so frustrated it's not going anywhere [:(]

Lowered to 46,900 hoping to re-kindle some interest. I do a get a TON of hits through craigslist on the page. Considerably less from autotrader FWIW for those of you that sell used in the future. Autotrader costs about 85 bucks as well.

There's gotta be peeps out there that aren't particularly keen on the looks of the B8.5 that want a B8 as close to the condition it rolled off the lot as possible :)

-Rich H.

[well_armed]

Are there any comps close to your zip code?

What is the competition priced at?

[NetMagi]

Are there any comps close to your zip code?

What is the competition priced at?

Not many for sale. . The others on autotrader are priced similarly or higher with lesser or equal options.

Hard to believe nobody wants an Ibis White w/sport Diff, Alu-Optic, Full Nappa, and Carbon Inlays. . .they seem like some of the most desirable options from what I've seen. Maybe if the car came with a free supermodel :P

-Rich H.

[SASKCHAUCH]

Just be patient... I have sold sooo many cars and have felt the same feeling. No one will ever buy this vehicle.... there is always a buyer its just a matter of time before they come across your ad.

do you have a for sale sign in the window I have found a few buyers just by advertising this way.

Post it on multiple forums, craigslist, kijiji and any other local free advertising

Good luck with the sale, it will sell

[oc cc]

Damn, if only I had the money, I'd take it off your hands in a second

[b6onboost]

The most desireable option is probably DSG. Even in this enthusiast forum it seems like DSG is by far the more popular transmission and only die-hard gear rowers get the 6 speed. I'd bet if it was DSG it would've already sold. If you're competitively priced you may just have to wait longer to find the right manual buyer.

Just looking through this thread, most people valued it at $45-46k. I think that is a very realistic range.


Hard to believe nobody wants an Ibis White w/sport Diff, Alu-Optic, Full Nappa, and Carbon Inlays. . .they seem like some of the most desirable options from what I've seen. Maybe if the car came with a free supermodel :P

-Rich H.