STaSIS Signature v2.0 ECU flash - initial impressions:

[zcd2.7t]

Just had my ECU flashed with the new STaSIS v2.0 "Signature" tune.

My initial impressions mirror much of what others have posted: The extra low-rpm torque and improved throttle response were immediately obvious. The power output also seems to be smoother throughout the rev range. The butt-dyno doesn't seem to register a big difference in peak power, but it wasn't expecting to, either. The revised powerband makes the car more responsive in daily driving which is exactly what I was hoping for.

Overall, I'm very happy with the changes, and would encourage anyone with the original "Signature" tune to get the upgrade. Can't beat the cost (zero dollars for the upgraded flash itself) Only costs are the ECU removal/reinstall labor and shipping.

HTH.

[bengtc]

Just had my ECU flashed with the new STaSIS v2.0 "Signature" tune.

My initial impressions mirror much of what others have posted: The extra low-rpm torque and improved throttle response were immediately obvious. The power output also seems to be smoother throughout the rev range. The butt-dyno doesn't seem to register a big difference in peak power, but it wasn't expecting to, either. The revised powerband makes the car more responsive in daily driving which is exactly what I was hoping for.

Overall, I'm very happy with the changes, and would encourage anyone with the original "Signature" tune to get the upgrade. Can't beat the cost (zero dollars for the upgraded flash itself) Only costs are the ECU removal/reinstall labor and shipping.

HTH.

are you comparing the v2 versus v1 tune?

[s4ibis]

I agree with your review for average driving. You definitely feel the extra power in the 60-130 range over stock.

[dparm]

I agree with your review for average driving. You definitely feel the extra power in the 60-130 range over stock.

60-130 is average driving for you? [:/]

[Gotchaa]

I assume this does not apply to 2013's

[s4ibis]

60-130 is average driving for you? [:/]

Haha.. I meant for average driving around town it just feels smoother. Then for 60-130 runs is where you actually feel the extra horsepower kick in.

[zcd2.7t]

are you comparing the v2 versus v1 tune?

Ummmm....yes.

(I must admit that I thought my "signature/mod list" would have made that clear....)

[tins5]

Ummmm....yes.

(I must admit that I thought my "signature/mod list" would have made that clear....)

I actually did not think it was that clear either... Until you recommended that everyone get reflashed.

Glad you like it, do you have any track numbers from before? I love my V2 as well, but never experienced V1 to compare

[zcd2.7t]

I actually did not think it was that clear either... Until you recommended that everyone get reflashed....

Yeah, that's what I was referring to - since I recommended the new tune, I thought it would be clear that I had the old tune initially. Oh well.


...Glad you like it, do you have any track numbers from before?

Previous best: http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi-S4-Timeslip-23872.html

Planning to run again the weekend of 11/3-11/4, so stay tuned! (LOL -see what I did there? ;-)

Your 12.362 and 114+ mph are pretty dam* impressive for "just a tune and an intake".

Just to be clear - is yours the "STaSIS Signature" tune (with their warranty), or the STaSIS/Revo (non-warrantied) tune?

[PitchS4]

Just to be clear - is yours the "STaSIS Signature" tune (with their warranty), or the STaSIS/Revo (non-warrantied) tune?

Just to be clear both the old V1 and new V2 Stasis tunes have their warranty. You mean original Revo (prior to the merge), correct?

[motorboatingsob]

You shouldn't refer to REVO as Statis/Revo because I think it just confuses people. Stasis is stasis = Warranty. Revo is Revo = No Warranty.

This whole Stasis/Revo or Revo/Stasis thing shouldn't be mixed up with one another. Yes, they are the same company now based on the fact that they merged. One could argue Stasis bought Revo or one could argue Revo bought Stasis based on the employees list. Regardless of the merger they are not meshing names in any way. Revo is still Revo and Stasis is still Stasis. So when someone refers to Stasis it should mean just that and entails a warranty. When someone says Revo it should mean just that, no warranty. Based on the merger the only difference in tunes is that Stasis V2 tune is basically the old Revo 91 tune. The Revo 93 or 100 Tunes give you more power obviously but you don't get the warranty. So in short, if you are getting a 91 tune go Stasis V2 and get the warranty. If you want more power and don't care about warranties then go Revo with the 93/100 tune. Or better yet if you don't care about the warranty skip Revo and go right to APR and get your APR V2 and pulley for the most power.


Just to be clear both the old V1 and new V2 Stasis tunes have their warranty. You mean original Revo (prior to the merge), correct?

[zcd2.7t]

You shouldn't refer to REVO as Statis/Revo

Well, that's what STaSIS/Revo call it, so why shouldn't I use the same term?: http://www.revotechnik.com/news/2012/audi-driver-international-2012/

[13S4]

Well, that's what STaSIS/Revo call it, so why shouldn't I use the same term?: http://www.revotechnik.com/news/2012/audi-driver-international-2012/

motorboatingsob explained perfectly it in his paragraph.

[motorboatingsob]

do you see anything there that says Stasis/Revo as a combined name, no.... it clearly has both names separated for each company. They may have merged, but are still considered separate companies from a marketing standpoint... look at your link again. :-)

I don't say this to be an ass. I am trying to clarify that there is a difference and it confuses some of the newer people who don't know all of the details about the merger.



Well, that's what STaSIS/Revo call it, so why shouldn't I use the same term?: http://www.revotechnik.com/news/2012/audi-driver-international-2012/

[zcd2.7t]

do you see anything there that says Stasis/Revo as a combined name....

You mean like this? (Quoted from the first sentence in the first paragraph on the page I linked to): "It was an early cold and wet start for the STaSIS Revo team..."

Or this, from a bit further down the page: "The STaSIS Revo presence was a force to behold..."

So, your point is that they don't include the forward slash that I used?? OK, I'll give you that, but they obviously refer to themselves with the name STaSIS Revo, which is the reason I used that term in the first place.

Regardless, I was trying to draw a distinction between the original "STaSIS Signature" tune, which was provided by APR, and the NEW v2.0 tune, which is provided by Revo.

[motorboatingsob]

I don't know how I can say it any differently. They are still separate... If they wanted to become one company they would use one name. I don't see a Stavo name or a revasis name or anything merged like that. Since they are two separate companies they use both names. Read up a little on how mergers and acquisitions work. You can still merge two companies or one acquire another and not have to be considered one company even though the books cover both. That is Marketing at it's best and also a major reason companies acquire others. In some cases it is purely their products or services they want to bring under their existing name or to get rid of the competition. They also may want to leverage the other companies R&D and products, but market them under their existing or a new company name and create a sense of competitiveness in the market when in fact all profits go to the same company.

from your quote "It was an early cold and wet start for the STaSIS Revo team..." Did I see the word "team" there. Meaning Stasis and Revo are working together. That would entail separate groups working together, not one company or they would have said "it was a cold and wet start for Stasis Revo. Again, they are still referring to themselves as separate organizations. It isn't worth going back and forth on this. Just accept the fact that you shouldn't refer to them as one company when referring to their products because they don't refer to their own products as one company they separate their products by company. They may advertise with both names of course, but they are still keeping the names separate and thus separate companies. Maybe Tiffany can jump in and actually explain this from the companies perspective. This isn't worth going any further into merger and acquisition discussions as it is obviously a mute point.

Again, I am not trying to put you down though you seem to think I am or for some reason seem to take this to heart. I am trying to make this clear that there is a difference and if you are going to provide feedback to the community to just be clear as to what you are talking about. I am done trolling your post now because my comments seem to to be falling on deaf ears.


You mean like this? (Quoted from the first sentence in the first paragraph on the page I linked to): "It was an early cold and wet start for the STaSIS Revo team..."

Or this, from a bit further down the page: "The STaSIS Revo presence was a force to behold..."

So, your point is that they don't include the forward slash that I used?? OK, I'll give you that, but they obviously refer to themselves with the name STaSIS Revo, which is the reason I used that term in the first place.

Regardless, I was trying to draw a distinction between the original "STaSIS Signature" tune, which was provided by APR, and the NEW v2.0 tune, which is provided by Revo.

[zcd2.7t]

...I am done trolling your post now...

thenkyewverymuch.

[jasonE30m3]

Really wishing this was available for the B8.5.......

[STaSISInc]

Here is a STaSIS Revo update:

The merger of STaSIS and REVO has and will continue to produce change and a strong product offering for years(generations) to come.

To clarify a few things and provide the latest:

We are now going by the STaSIS Revo Group (SRG) we produce products under the STaSIS brand, Revo brand and Eurojet brand and may add more in the future. These are 3 separate product lines much like VAG produces, Audi, VW, Porsche...

The different brands will have different offerings available through our US HQ, our UK HQ and beyond. It takes time to successfully merge groups, practices, products, resources, marketing, logos etc. We appreciate the support of you all, ALL of our customers are important regardless of brand. We do have different teams that support the different brands, but we are all here to help as needed regardless of our brand title.

It can be confusing, even Audi uses a Lamborghini engine in the Audi brand so yes at times resources can be shared when its beneficial to all. You call the same phone number for all 3 brands(STaSIS, Revo and Eurojet). The only factory matching type warranty available is with the STaSIS brand when the product is purchased and installed through the dealer offering STaSIS products.

More innovation and products to come............



You shouldn't refer to REVO as Statis/Revo because I think it just confuses people. Stasis is stasis = Warranty. Revo is Revo = No Warranty.

This whole Stasis/Revo or Revo/Stasis thing shouldn't be mixed up with one another. Yes, they are the same company now based on the fact that they merged. One could argue Stasis bought Revo or one could argue Revo bought Stasis based on the employees list. Regardless of the merger they are not meshing names in any way. Revo is still Revo and Stasis is still Stasis. So when someone refers to Stasis it should mean just that and entails a warranty. When someone says Revo it should mean just that, no warranty. Based on the merger the only difference in tunes is that Stasis V2 tune is basically the old Revo 91 tune. The Revo 93 or 100 Tunes give you more power obviously but you don't get the warranty. So in short, if you are getting a 91 tune go Stasis V2 and get the warranty. If you want more power and don't care about warranties then go Revo with the 93/100 tune. Or better yet if you don't care about the warranty skip Revo and go right to APR and get your APR V2 and pulley for the most power.

[zcd2.7t]

...We are now going by the STaSIS Revo Group (SRG)...

Thanks, Tifani!

Motorboating...: Any questions? [;)]

[STaSISInc]

Yes, so talk about the company its The STaSIS Revo Group, talk about the products and its STaSIS OR Revo OR Eurojet but there is no STaSIS Revo product, make sense?

If you have ever been to the VAG HQ in Herndon, VA, you drive to the VAG building and one side says Audi and one side says VW but the sign our front says VAG. You cannot call the Audi side for VW info and you cant call the VW side for Audi info. Our UK HQ happens to still say Revo and our US HQ still says STaSIS, you wont see STaSIS Revo product its either STaSIS or its Revo by the STaSIS Revo Group.

As we continue to merge businesses there may be even more changes to work through and this new name is just that, new:) and were just starting to integrate it.






Thanks, Tifani!

Motorboating...: Any questions? [;)]

[tins5]

Your 12.362 and 114+ mph are pretty dam* impressive for "just a tune and an intake".

Just to be clear - is yours the "STaSIS Signature" tune (with their warranty), or the STaSIS/Revo (non-warrantied) tune?

As above, mine is the STaSIS/REVO tune, aka Stasis signature series, which IS warrantied. If I had the REVO, I would just say the REVO.

My car appreciates your skepticism. I have no reason to lie about my mods.. Except for the pulley that I pulled out of my ass to go with my STaSIS tune.

Good luck! Just hope it's a good DA out and hopefully youll be another STaSIS car with nice track numbers!

[zcd2.7t]

...My car appreciates your skepticism...

I'm not skeptical - I'm impressed!

The same day I had my best run, an APR intaked/tuned/pullied + Miltek-exhausted car ran 12.4xx at 114.xx, which seemed fast at the time. (edited) Your car running equal with just a tune is impressive indeed.

[motorboatingsob]

Yes, so talk about the company its The STaSIS Revo Group, talk about the products and its STaSIS OR Revo OR Eurojet but there is no STaSIS Revo product, make sense?

If you have ever been to the VAG HQ in Herndon, VA, you drive to the VAG building and one side says Audi and one side says VW but the sign our front says VAG. You cannot call the Audi side for VW info and you cant call the VW side for Audi info. Our UK HQ happens to still say Revo and our US HQ still says STaSIS, you wont see STaSIS Revo product its either STaSIS or its Revo by the STaSIS Revo Group.

As we continue to merge businesses there may be even more changes to work through and this new name is just that, new:) and were just starting to integrate it.

Thanks Tifani, zcd2.7t any questions? ;-)

[zcd2.7t]

Thanks Tifani,

Funny thing is that the title and first line of my original post read: "Just had my ECU flashed with the new STaSIS v2.0 "Signature" tune."

The thread topic is the new version of the STaSIS tune, not the name of the company and/or product.

YOU mucked up the thread with a dissertation on how I was wrong about the name of the company offering the product.

I wasn't wrong, and the name was never the point.

[13S4]

Funny thing is that the title and first line of my original post read: "Just had my ECU flashed with the new STaSIS v2.0 "Signature" tune."

The thread topic is the new version of the STaSIS tune, not the name of the company and/or product.

YOU mucked up the thread with a dissertation on how I was wrong about the name of the company offering the product.

I wasn't wrong, and the name was never the point.

There is no way to tell that you previously had the V1 tune from what you have posted. Motorboatingsob corrected something you said prior to avoid confusing more people. He then tried to explain to you what they are separate products which you did not seem to understand until Tifani stepped in. There is no need to respond like a pompous prick each time.

[motorboatingsob]

Title vs what you wrote were different hence people asking all of the questions...

Seeing as I am your biggest fan. I will finally let all the others continue to discuss your original feelings about the tune. Only jumped back because Tifani confirmed what I had originally said.

[S4_Phantom]

Just had my ECU flashed with the new STaSIS v2.0 "Signature" tune.

My initial impressions mirror much of what others have posted: The extra low-rpm torque and improved throttle response were immediately obvious. The power output also seems to be smoother throughout the rev range. The butt-dyno doesn't seem to register a big difference in peak power, but it wasn't expecting to, either. The revised powerband makes the car more responsive in daily driving which is exactly what I was hoping for.

Overall, I'm very happy with the changes, and would encourage anyone with the original "Signature" tune to get the upgrade. Can't beat the cost (zero dollars for the upgraded flash itself) Only costs are the ECU removal/reinstall labor and shipping.

HTH.

Those saying he didn't mention that he had the original tune and didn't know he was talking about the upgrade to 2.0 may not have read far enough into his original post. I highlighted in BOLD where I think it's clear he is discussing the upgraded tune.

[zcd2.7t]

Those saying he didn't mention that he had the original tune and didn't know he was talking about the upgrade to 2.0 may not have read far enough into his original post. I highlighted in BOLD where I think it's clear he is discussing the upgraded tune.

Thanks.

Reading comprehension fail is the rule in most InTArWeb forums, in my experience.

[13S4]

touché

[motionneon]

Any more Stasis v2.0 impressions or just more semantic masturbation?

[zcd2.7t]

Any more Stasis v2.0 impressions ...

I've seen people use terms like "night and day" to describe the difference between v1.0 and v2.0. I don't think I'd go quite that far, but I admit that I was very surprised the first time I crested 2K rpm with the new tune. Previously, there never seemed to be all that much oomph available below 2.5K or so, at least by comparison with the rush that happened above that. With the new tune, there's usable power from about 2K on up, and the rush from that point up is borderline shocking.

I'm not sure that my car's going to run anything like the 12.3xxx @ 114mph that tins5's car ran, but the butt-dyno is now predicting a big improvement from my previous best.

You'd be well served to hit your closest STaSIS dealer ASAP to have your v1.0 tune upgraded, IMHO!

[motionneon]

I've seen people use terms like "night and day" to describe the difference between v1.0 and v2.0. I don't think I'd go quite that far, but I admit that I was very surprised the first time I crested 2K rpm with the new tune. Previously, there never seemed to be all that much oomph available below 2.5K or so, at least by comparison with the rush that happened above that. With the new tune, there's usable power from about 2K on up, and the rush from that point up is borderline shocking.

I'm not sure that my car's going to run anything like the 12.3xxx @ 114mph that tins5's car ran, but the butt-dyno is now predicting a big improvement from my previous best.

You'd be well served to hit your closest STaSIS dealer ASAP to have your v1.0 tune upgraded, IMHO!

Thanks for the details! Next drop off for service....done!

[dparm]

I didn't use the night-day metaphor. It was subtle.

[tins5]

I'm interested in seeing what your before and after times are! Any other power mods?

[zcd2.7t]

I'm interested in seeing what your before and after times are! Any other power mods?

Me, too.

Only other mod is an AWE S-flo intake. Love the subtle additional supercharger whine it provides. [:D]

[CLANCY I]

Does the Stasis tune still require the dealership to remove and send in the ECU or is it an onsite flash?

[zcd2.7t]

Does the Stasis tune still require the dealership to remove and send in the ECU or is it an onsite flash?

http://robinbrown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/double-facepalm1.jpg


..Reading comprehension fail is the rule in most InTArWeb forums, in my experience.

I rest my case....

[CLANCY I]

I appreciate the sarcasm and I do admit I missed the "...Only costs are the ECU removal/reinstall labor and shipping" part of the OP...

But it was not clear to me at first because "Flash" means different things to different people. My Stasis Auth Dealer said they remove the ECU and send to Stasis... To me this is not a "Flash" this is a physical ECU mod. Granted they might just "flash" it on their end but it still requires removal. IMHO the proper definition of "Flash" does not require removal and is done on site through the on-board OBD port. I have used a REVO "Flash" in the past on my other S4s and loved them so now that SRG is kinda/sorta one in the same i was hoping they would adopt a true "FLASH" install/interface as opposed to "REMOVAL"

[zcd2.7t]

I appreciate the sarcasm and I do admit I missed the "...Only costs are the ECU removal/reinstall labor and shipping" part of the OP...

But it was not clear to me at first because "Flash" means different things to different people.....


NP - Your post was just the perfect icing on the cake after all the other off-topic cr*p littering up this thread. ;-)

Flashing can happen anywhere - it's not just for guys in trenchcoats anymore!

[quikS410]

quick question - i plan on getting the stasis v2 tune and challenge exhaust in the spring. right now as i have the e-diff the car reacts and performs very differently when set in auto mode vs. dynamic mode. Now to get the full potential of the tune or to 'feel' like it anyway do you have to use dynamic mode all the time? i have a 6mt.

[dparm]

quick question - i plan on getting the stasis v2 tune and challenge exhaust in the spring. right now as i have the e-diff the car reacts and performs very differently when set in auto mode vs. dynamic mode. Now to get the full potential of the tune or to 'feel' like it anyway do you have to use dynamic mode all the time? i have a 6mt.


Makes no difference.

[quikS410]

why does it make such a difference when stock? in dynamic it pulls harder and even with a 6mt when you complete a shift it wants be aggressive automaticaly in the next gear with same amount of throttle as if you shifted when in comfort or auto mode. you can easily feel a power difference between each mode.

[zcd2.7t]

why does it make such a difference when stock? in dynamic it pulls harder and even with a 6mt when you complete a shift it wants be aggressive automaticaly in the next gear with same amount of throttle as if you shifted when in comfort or auto mode. you can easily feel a power difference between each mode.

You're feeling a difference in power DELIVERY, not a difference in actual power.

That feeling is the same with the tune.

[quikS410]

yeah I did mean the 'feel' and not actual power but delivery is good way of putting it. Thanks!

[Skoinon]

Does launch control still work with the Stasis tune?

[s4ibis]

Does launch control still work with the Stasis tune?

yes

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[Skoinon]

any more opinions on v2, thinking of getting my car flashed soon.

[zcd2.7t]

any more opinions on v2, thinking of getting my car flashed soon.

My V1.0 1/4 mile: 12.79 @ 109+
My V2.0 1/4 mile: 12.47 @ 110+

The biggest difference in feel, though is low- and mid-range power delivery, which is much improved.

Do it - you won't be disappointed.

[Capt. Slow]

Any increase in fuel consumption?

[zcd2.7t]

Any increase in fuel consumption?

No change.

[drew4392]

Any increase in fuel consumption?

all depends on your right foot. If driven exactly the same, should be the same (I heard even better, due to improved A/F ratio, etc).

I just got the V2 Stasis tune. Great improvement. Really woke the car up. Feels very smooth and even throughout the powerband. I felt improved performance after a few days, too. I was told it adjusts and adapts over the first week.

[zcd2.7t]

.... (I heard even better, due to improved A/F ratio, etc)...

I dunno about that, but I could understand some savings due to the smaller throttle openings needed to achieve the desired rate of acceleration.

In my case, I don't have to push the pedal as far in normal driving, but any resultant fuel savings have been quashed by my flooring it more often just because it's so da*n fun! ;-)

[dparm]

Any increase in fuel consumption?

According to my Fuelly data, my gas mileage is still within 5% of the v1.0...well within margin of error. So I would tentatively say it's the same.

[motionneon]

I'm at 20,000 miles with Stage I. Rather than pull ecu out again I'm gonna wait until 50,000 then jump to Apr stage 2+ or 3.

[Skoinon]

bump for more impressions

[Gromit]

This discussion in this thread about gas mileage change seems to be comparing Stasis V1 to Stasis V2. I'm curious about mileage of stock versus flashed (whether Stasis, APR or other). I know that's not why we do these tunes, and I know that having the flashed ECU can make for a happier right foot that becomes more active, but setting that aside I'm like to know what folks think the tune does to mileage if all other things are equal.

[s4ibis]

seems about the same to me

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[QuattroRocket]

I am told its a 5-10% improvement but I am pretty sure thats based on easing off on the gas with the extra power so it will be subjective.

[cspcrx]

I was kicking around the idea of stasis, since it has some level of coverage and the dealer does the install. I think it is interesting that they do not have an intake system. Curious if anyone gets higher numbers then stasis claims as a result of haveing an intake.

[s4ibis]

I was kicking around the idea of stasis, since it has some level of coverage and the dealer does the install. I think it is interesting that they do not have an intake system. Curious if anyone gets higher numbers then stasis claims as a result of haveing an intake.

stasis rep told me s4 intake is already pretty good so upgrade would be for sound mostly.

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[cspcrx]

Thanks, interesting.

[zcd2.7t]

bump for more impressions

It's more fasterer with the v2.0 tune. [:D]

[zcd2.7t]

...I'm like to know what folks think the tune does to mileage if all other things are equal....

I wouldn't expect any change in fuel mileage, if I were you. Any improvement would be more theoretical than actual.

[zcd2.7t]

Thanks, interesting.

Yep, and my AWE intake DOES sound better....

[bengtc]

anyone else have more reviews? how long is the turn around time?

[Hawkpilot6060]

anyone else have more reviews? how long is the turn around time?

I have had my Stasis tune for a month now and it made a big difference in my opinion. I kept my CPO warranty of 6 years (i think it is 6) and 100k miles which is why I went with Stasis. I just ran a 12.7@110 with 1/2 tank of gas, extra rim and tire in trunk, so a little bit heavier than I could have been. I am going to try it one more time at the track before I do the USP intake. I am gonna lighten the load a bit, less gas, and 100 octane and should be able to get 12.5@112 or so. Turn around takes a work week, drop it off monday a.m., possibly get it back thursday evening but plan on friday. I did have a few issues with my ECM after the tune, but Stasis ended up buying me a new ECM and so far no issues. I recommend it if you want to keep your Audi warranty backed by Stasis as I did. Peace of mind is worth it to me but if you want more power go with APR as I think they are great company. Qwik Rick

[theKB]

I have had my Stasis tune for a month now and it made a big difference in my opinion. I kept my CPO warranty of 6 years (i think it is 6) and 100k miles which is why I went with Stasis. I just ran a 12.7@110 with 1/2 tank of gas, extra rim and tire in trunk, so a little bit heavier than I could have been. I am going to try it one more time at the track before I do the USP intake. I am gonna lighten the load a bit, less gas, and 100 octane and should be able to get 12.5@112 or so. Turn around takes a work week, drop it off monday a.m., possibly get it back thursday evening but plan on friday. I did have a few issues with my ECM after the tune, but Stasis ended up buying me a new ECM and so far no issues. I recommend it if you want to keep your Audi warranty backed by Stasis as I did. Peace of mind is worth it to me but if you want more power go with APR as I think they are great company. Qwik Rick

You may want to delve deeper into that CPO warranty considering stasis technically voids your powertrain warranty with Audi.

[Hawkpilot6060]

You may want to delve deeper into that CPO warranty considering stasis technically voids your powertrain warranty with Audi.

No it doesn't, you need to delve deeper. I just went through the process of them picking up the cost of a new ECM that they paid $1200.00 for, plus my loaner of a week. It was transparent to me, my service guy took care of everything. And Audi will still cover anything that is not related directly to the tune. That is from Audi, the Audi dealership here in WPB florida, and from Stasis. Maybe you should give them a call eh?

[S4_Phantom]

No it doesn't, you need to delve deeper. I just went through the process of them picking up the cost of a new ECM that they paid $1200.00 for, plus my loaner of a week. It was transparent to me, my service guy took care of everything. And Audi will still cover anything that is not related directly to the tune. That is from Audi, the Audi dealership here in WPB florida, and from Stasis. Maybe you should give them a call eh?

Sorry Hawk but you are mis-informed. If you went to Audi in WPB then you went to Braman. Last week I had my car in for a few issues and talked to their lead tech. We went for a ride and I asked him about tunes. Any ECU tampering will give you TD1 status the minute they hook it up to their computer. This means Audi basically voids your powertrain warranty. He did say there is more to it than just an across the board warranty void. I asked him if I could bring the car in for service without having them hook it up to the computer and he said they are required to do it it if they want to get paid by Audi for any warranty work they do. I also have a very close friend who works in their sales dept and he and I have had many discussions about this. You lose your powertrain warranty with any tune.

But you should know that Stasis paid for your warranty claim which is why it was transparent. And he did admit that he's been dealing with Audi's for many years and has yet to see a car that has had a drivetrain problem due to a tune. But keep in mind that he is dealing with a lot of people who won't ever do anything to the car but put the key in and drive it.

[infinkc]

i have a stasis tune in my car, but it came with it, so i dont know how different it feels from stock or another tune. I can say its slow to me compared to my stg3 b5s4.

[tins5]

I have had my Stasis tune for a month now and it made a big difference in my opinion. I kept my CPO warranty of 6 years (i think it is 6) and 100k miles which is why I went with Stasis.


No it doesn't, you need to delve deeper. I just went through the process of them picking up the cost of a new ECM that they paid $1200.00 for, plus my loaner of a week. It was transparent to me, my service guy took care of everything. And Audi will still cover anything that is not related directly to the tune. That is from Audi, the Audi dealership here in WPB florida, and from Stasis. Maybe you should give them a call eh?

How many miles do you have? You may not get the same treatment once you pass 50k miles.


Any increase in fuel consumption?

From my experience, it has went down by 1 mpg. Not too significant. that's even with me trying to take it easy all the time. Closer to 17 mpg consistently now, rather than 18 mpg from before.

[Hawkpilot6060]

Sorry Hawk but you are mis-informed. If you went to Audi in WPB then you went to Braman. Last week I had my car in for a few issues and talked to their lead tech. We went for a ride and I asked him about tunes. Any ECU tampering will give you TD1 status the minute they hook it up to their computer. This means Audi basically voids your powertrain warranty. He did say there is more to it than just an across the board warranty void. I asked him if I could bring the car in for service without having them hook it up to the computer and he said they are required to do it it if they want to get paid by Audi for any warranty work they do. I also have a very close friend who works in their sales dept and he and I have had many discussions about this. You lose your powertrain warranty with any tune.

But you should know that Stasis paid for your warranty claim which is why it was transparent. And he did admit that he's been dealing with Audi's for many years and has yet to see a car that has had a drivetrain problem due to a tune. But keep in mind that he is dealing with a lot of people who won't ever do anything to the car but put the key in and drive it.

Haha, I am not mis-informed at all. I said Stasis paid for it, and it is transparent. And my car is not TD1, so you are misinformed. You can go ask At Braman. It is has been in twice and still does not show as TD1.

[quikS410]

The fact that you have a modified aftermarket tune on your car and it doesn't show TD1 is a laughable concept... you should look more into what Td1 actually is and Audi's process behind it. Perhaps your dealership is telling you these things but there is no way your car isn't TD1 with a modified ECU.

[helix139]

Haha, I am not mis-informed at all. I said Stasis paid for it, and it is transparent. And my car is not TD1, so you are misinformed. You can go ask At Braman. It is has been in twice and still does not show as TD1.

You will not have powertrain coverage after 50k. Your powertrain warranty now is through Stasis, NOT Audi. AoA's president and Stasis have both said as much.

[helix139]

The fact that you have a modified aftermarket tune on your car and it doesn't show TD1 is a laughable concept... you should look more into what Td1 actually is and Audi's process behind it. Perhaps your dealership is telling you these things but there is no way your car isn't TD1 with a modified ECU.

He's actually probably right. Stasis cars show T23 I think instead of TD1. They get their own designation and there's no need for Audi to detect it as Stasis straight up tells Audi what they do to your car.

[13S4]

Haha, I am not mis-informed at all. I said Stasis paid for it, and it is transparent. And my car is not TD1, so you are misinformed. You can go ask At Braman. It is has been in twice and still does not show as TD1.

Dude you obviously need to read more before thinking you are informed. The only way you may not be TD1 is if they haven't scanned your car yet which is a possibility, or you have the T23 code. Either way your Audi warranty is gone, and you're currently on the stasis warranty until you hit 50k miles, after that your CPO will not kick in since you are tuned. You can ignore this fact if you want, but your ignorance will eventually bite you in the ass... Anyway there is a boat load of information on this site. Read it.

Edit: helix said both of my points

[dparm]

You may want to delve deeper into that CPO warranty considering stasis technically voids your powertrain warranty with Audi.

No, it doesn't. It supplements it. Audi won't repair Stasis parts, or any damage caused by them, but Stasis WILL cover it. Other aftermarket companies will tell you to pound sand if their parts cause problems.

[dparm]

stasis rep told me s4 intake is already pretty good so upgrade would be for sound mostly.





I talked to their engineers at length about it. Although they wouldn't give me a totally-firm answer, they left me with two possibilities.


1. Marketing decided that there's already a ton of intakes available. Theirs would be just one more tube-and-filter, which might not even be a very profitable part.

2. Engineering decided that it isn't necessary or might affect reliability. Stasis is about selling parts that are reliable and that they can warranty.


I had an APR Stage 2 intake on my car for a week and decided that the car didn't really feel any faster or sound any different, so I yanked it and went back to stock.

[quikS410]

I had not heard about the separate stassis designation of T23. I recently spoke with my service adviser when I was in for last oil change and my dealership is an authorized Stassis dealer who has recently not been offering or selling stassis parts and tunes etc. the reason being Td1 and the fact that Audi (this is all according to him...) is not paying for any warranty work on the modified car. The dealership in turn is going to stassis for claims and stassis is coming back and saying we have an exhaust on the car - "why are we paying for TSB's" of all things?! they are giving the dealership a portion and the dealership is eating the rest. It doesn't make sense to me as you would think Audi would still cover things non-powertrain related without much fuss but what I was told is they were not....

[forcefed6.4ford]

TSB's are to be covered by the manufacturer regardless of vin flagging. Vehicles that have had warranty expire due to mileage or build date are still covered. It should be no different.

Whats the dealer?

[quikS410]

TSB's are to be covered by the manufacturer regardless of vin flagging. Vehicles that have had warranty expire due to mileage or build date are still covered. It should be no different.

Whats the dealer?

Believe me, i was skeptical as well when he used the TSB example of all things and then balked a bit when I asked about the stassis V2 tune and exhaust I was hoping to order in the spring. Dealership is St. James Audi - only one we have in Winnipeg.

[helix139]

TSB's are to be covered by the manufacturer regardless of vin flagging. Vehicles that have had warranty expire due to mileage or build date are still covered. It should be no different.

Whats the dealer?

You're thinking of recalls. TSBs do not have to be covered out of warranty.