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[well_armed]

Updated Mod List:

GIAC Stage 1 ECU
Milltek Resonated Exhaust
Eurocode Headers
Roc-Euro Intake
Ohlins SL Coilovers (Stasis Challenge)
Eurocode Alu Kruez
Eurocode Front Sway Bar
Eurocode Rear Sway Bar
Eurocode Front Sway Endlinks (adj. for corner balancing)
Eurocode Rear Endlinks
SPC Adjustable Control Arms
Laster Interceptor (Front only)
Xpel Ultimate Clear Bra (full front wrap)
35% 3M Tint
Opti-coat permanent wax
BBS CH-R 19x9.5 ET45 Black with Stainless lip
Michelin Pilot Super Sports 255/35/R19
P3 Vent Gauge
Escort 9500ix
Stoptech 380mm BBK
APR Coolant Reservoir/Separator


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[DavidD]

Wow... very nice! You you will have plenty to keep you busy once she arrives. Will you be installing the parts yourself?

[ENV²]

[up] I approve of this post

[FITZ TITS]

Wow... very nice! You you will have plenty to keep you busy once she arrives. Will you be installing the parts yourself?

Judging by the dirt under his fingernails, my guess would be yes.

[FITZ TITS]

Also, no need to quote pictures. Remove any part of the BB code tags so they don't load up in your quote. Ex: [IMG]xxxxx[/MG]

[bkkchris]

Nice! Exhaust looks so good clean and brand new!

[Gweezil]

It's nice to see someone else has as little patience as I do. Nice list.

[awdjunkies]

Judging by the dirt under his fingernails, my guess would be yes.

lol Best post ^

[zamm3k]

wow. It's like a compulsive disorder. You miss your car so much you have to go shopping parts for it. I dig it!

[dawei213]

Wow, are you even planing to drive it stock for a bit and then change over to get a feel for the different?

[well_armed]

Judging by the dirt under his fingernails, my guess would be yes.

Yup, planning on doing everything myself. Dirt was from doing a clutch install on my buddies STi :lol:


Wow, are you even planing to drive it stock for a bit and then change over to get a feel for the different?

Nope. Change everything out while its new and clean!

[queue]

Nice collection.
my h&r OE springs were metallic gray...
Is that an oval tip?

[well_armed]

Nice collection.
my h&r OE springs were metallic gray...
Is that an oval tip?


I noticed the color difference from other members, but I checked the part numbers, they are true.

Nope, 1/4 tips

[Crucible35]

Nice! I can use this as my checklist for my S4....when I finally cave and order.[o_o]

[jfabes]

I noticed the color difference from other members, but I checked the part numbers, they are true.

Nope, 1/4 tips

Verify everything with H&R on the phone with what is marked on the spring....not on the box and not with the distributor. I did the same thing and my rears were wrong. I have never seen a blue set of oe springs. i suppose they could have changed the colors, but also noticed the rubber coating around the tight coils is on the rears and not on the fronts.....historically, it is on both or just the fronts. just trying to save you some of the pain i went through. Nice exahust choice, I think that's my next mod.

[well_armed]

Verify everything with H&R on the phone with what is marked on the spring....not on the box and not with the distributor. I did the same thing and my rears were wrong. I have never seen a blue set of oe springs. i suppose they could have changed the colors, but also noticed the rubber coating around the tight coils is on the rears and not on the fronts.....historically, it is on both or just the fronts. just trying to save you some of the pain i went through. Nice exahust choice, I think that's my next mod.

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Part numbers are true based on my research.

29061 VA (F) and 29061 HA (R) "white paint blob"

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[Patrick Bateman]

Lookin good... I didnt see any sign of eurocode end links with those sways though? May as well get those cheap plastic bits in the trash where they belong while youre at the sway install!
Im changing out all brake pads on mine after running them for 2500 miles as the brake dust is rediculous!

PB.

[well_armed]

Awaiting delivery:
Ecode Front & Rear sway links
SPC adjustable control arms

Future Mods:
Alu Kreuz (B8.5 available in 3 weeks)


Lookin good... I didnt see any sign of eurocode end links with those sways though? May as well get those cheap plastic bits in the trash where they belong while youre at the sway install!
Im changing out all brake pads on mine after running them for 2500 miles as the brake dust is rediculous!

PB.

:-)

[Gweezil]

Nope. Change everything out while its new and clean!

That's it, don't wait. Get every mile you can out of those sunk $$. I never even drove mine without a tune and full setup.

[well_armed]

That's it, don't wait. Get every mile you can out of those sunk $$. I never even drove mine without a tune and full setup.

Exactly my point to the wifey. If I am going to do it, do it at the onset so I get to enjoy the product for the full amount of time possible.

Hell, I'd have the tune already done as well...but we all know where that stands with the new SIMOS ecu.

[jfabes]

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Part numbers are true based on my research.

29061 VA (F) and 29061 HA (R) "white paint blob"

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looks like you got it.

[jedirocker]

Heh...and I thought I was doing good ordering my little Supercharged badges ahead of time. You are "well armed" with mods, alright.

[jdwk]

Yeah, I've already driven mine for a thousand miles in Europe and I've been able to hold off so far. I bought the S4 because I wanted something I wouldn't be screwing around with all the time. The wife is not going to be pleased when parts start showing up.

[Wah]

Damn, you got it all!! Very exciting stuff....you're going to love the change!

[well_armed]

On Monday when Eurocode opens up orders, I will have the complete USS (Aleu Kruz)

[Patrick Bateman]

On Monday when Eurocode opens up orders, I will have the complete USS (Aleu Kruz)

Hey Now! Get in line! Greg told me i was first! Congrats on the mod list thusfar. What tune will you hold out for? Im waiting on Stasis.

PB.

[13S4]

On Monday when Eurocode opens up orders, I will have the complete USS (Aleu Kruz)

ditto

[well_armed]

Stasis x2

I figure he has at least 100 of these things being made, so we'll all get satisfaction next week. The group buy on the other had, that will probably take a month to herd all those cats.

[Patrick Bateman]

Yea, i hear that. I want mine put on before the snow flies... Im not waiting for a block of people to pay. the car just floats a bit too much for my taste.

PB.

[Seinsmeld13]

You will love the AWE. I had mine transferred from my 10 to my 13, sounds fantastic.

[handruin]

well_armed, I'm curious about your initial impressions of the TSW Nurburgring's (19x9.5) w/ Michelin PSS. I know based on your signature you don't have the 2013 S4 yet, but what's the stretch look like on those wheels with a 19x9.5? I inquired with Elliott at Modbargains and he came back with the same recommended size that you have. I am concerned it would look stretched because of the 9.5" width. Judging from your pictures it really doesn't looked stretched at all but maybe it looks different in person? Is there any chance that once the wheels and tires have the weight of the car it would look any more stretched? What color S4 did you order? Did you by chance get the adaptive suspension (I see you have springs already and waiting to install)?

[handruin]

You will love the AWE. I had mine transferred from my 10 to my 13, sounds fantastic.

Did you (and do most people) lean towards getting the AWE exhaust with resonators vs without? I like what I hear in the youtube videos but I'm sure in person it's different. Given that you had a 2010 with the AWE and now a 2013, does the soundaktor take anything away from the AWE sound or does it just add to it nicely? I know I can quiet it down in the MMI, but was curious what your opinion is with having both.

[well_armed]

well_armed, I'm curious about your initial impressions of the TSW Nurburgring's (19x9.5) w/ Michelin PSS. I know based on your signature you don't have the 2013 S4 yet, but what's the stretch look like on those wheels with a 19x9.5? I inquired with Elliott at Modbargains and he came back with the same recommended size that you have. I am concerned it would look stretched because of the 9.5" width. Judging from your pictures it really doesn't looked stretched at all but maybe it looks different in person? Is there any chance that once the wheels and tires have the weight of the car it would look any more stretched? What color S4 did you order? Did you by chance get the adaptive suspension (I see you have springs already and waiting to install)?

You cannot lower the car, have 19x9.5" ET41 wheels, with a tire size greater than 255 -- without rubbing. The PSS do not stretch as much as the OEM rubber, as from the factory they are a wider tire (not all tires are the same, regardless of sizing spec). I debated for a month about what wheel size to get, brand, color, etc. The stretch should stay the same, if not bet better with weight.

At the end of the day, it had to fit my build goals:

-Lower the car 1"
-No spacers
-Get wider wheels (flush look w/o spacers)
-No rubbing

I read the entire wheel fitment thread, from post #1 to learn all about fitment, clearances, look, etc. I suggest you do the same! :)

My Build:
*2013 S-Tronic
*Monsoon Grey Metallic
*Adaptive SUS
*Sport Diff.
*MMI
*B&O
*Adv. Key



Did you (and do most people) lean towards getting the AWE exhaust with resonators vs without? I like what I hear in the youtube videos but I'm sure in person it's different. Given that you had a 2010 with the AWE and now a 2013, does the soundaktor take anything away from the AWE sound or does it just add to it nicely? I know I can quiet it down in the MMI, but was curious what your opinion is with having both.

I am going for a ride in a 2013 this am with an AWE, I will report back about the Soundkator.

[well_armed]

Confirmed. Soundkator makes a HUGE difference with exhaust sound inside the cabin.

Turning it on Comfort, WOT pulls on the freeway the exhaust was refined yet barked from the back end of the car. Same scenario on Dynamic, the cabin was filled from front to back with more exhaust note. It was quite substantial.

[handruin]

You cannot lower the car, have 19x9.5" ET41 wheels, with a tire size greater than 255 -- without rubbing. The PSS do not stretch as much as the OEM rubber, as from the factory they are a wider tire (not all tires are the same, regardless of sizing spec). I debated for a month about what wheel size to get, brand, color, etc. The stretch should stay the same, if not bet better with weight.

At the end of the day, it had to fit my build goals:

-Lower the car 1"
-No spacers
-Get wider wheels (flush look w/o spacers)
-No rubbing

I read the entire wheel fitment thread, from post #1 to learn all about fitment, clearances, look, etc. I suggest you do the same! :)

My Build:
*2013 S-Tronic
*Monsoon Grey Metallic
*Adaptive SUS
*Sport Diff.
*MMI
*B&O
*Adv. Key




I am going for a ride in a 2013 this am with an AWE, I will report back about the Soundkator.

Thanks for all the feedback. I've read through large sections of the wheel fitment thread but I can't remember everything I read. I'll need to go back through it again. I'm excited to hear how things work out once you get your car and the go-fast bits installed. I'm curious what your feedback will be with the adaptive suspension and the lowered springs with regards to ride quality/harshness in the various settings.

Also, thanks for reporting back the sound on the AWE exhaust with the soundaktor. Is there any drone in the car with the AWE that's bothersome?

[well_armed]

No drone.

I've had exhausts on many different cars, AWE is a great sounding exhaust.

[jedirocker]

Pardon mah ignooorance, gentlemen, but what are the advantages of the Eurocode sway bars? Went to Ecode's website and the product description lacks any marketing hype to lure me in.

[well_armed]

Changes the under steer, oversteer characteristic of your car, by dominating body roll.

[Patrick Bateman]

Chuckle...Im literally waiting for Rita, My UPS driver to drop my Alu off today... Whens the car in Well armed?
PB.

[well_armed]

Next monday. Of course I am in Mexico...

Baseline Dyno scheduled for the 30th.
Install day on Dec. 1st

[BzzzBom]

You'll love the Alu Kreuz. Eurocode installed the AK on my 2013 S4 last week. I alread had the USS sways and end links.

[pandi]

Where's my UPS guy!?! I want mine too.

[well_armed]

Got back from Puerto Vallarta this afternoon, straight over to pick her up...iphone pics.

Pretty boring, as its just plain stock. Come Saturday, whole new look!

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[Gweezil]

Looks really nice. Have you decided on a tune?

[well_armed]

I am gonna wait and see what all the tuners come up with.

[well_armed]

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Full front Xpel Ultimate Clear Bra installed
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No Seam, great installers.
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[well_armed]

Dyno this Friday, parts installed Saturday.

Winters are already on the stock wheels (Bridgestone LM60's)

[DLAB]

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Great scott!! [up]

[well_armed]

35% Tint

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[well_armed]

Drive Select: Dynamic
Gear: 3
Traction control: off
Octane: 91
Peak HP: 304.56
Peak TQ: 288.30

Car Mileage: ~270 miles
Break-in Method: Hard
Mods: Stock
Tires: Blizzak LM-60's

Temperature: 68 F (29.35 in H-g)
Humidity: 43%

Dyno: Dynojet HPE 650
Place: http://www.carbconn.com

Files 1&4 are 4th gear pulls.
Files 2&3 are 3rd gear.

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[ECS Tuning-Audi]

Congrats on the car! I really dig those center caps in carbon, did you use vinyl? If so that's great craftsmanship getting vinyl in between the rings - must have took some patients!

If you ever need anything don't hesitate to shoot me a PM or e-mail!

Jason

[thedollardoctor]

You'll love the Alu Kreuz. Eurocode installed the AK on my 2013 S4 last week. I alread had the USS sways and end links.

What were your impressions of the handling characteristics with JUST sways on vs. after the AK went on as well? I had my eurocode sways installed yesterday (haven't REALLY had the chance to fully test them out) but overall they did not make as BIG of a difference as I had hoped. They are definetly noticeable, but not to the extent I was hoping. Did you find the AK made a BIG difference above just the sways?

My AK will be delivered when the group buy ends. Can't wait and really hoping it stiffens this car up in the turns, still too much squishy body roll for my tastes!

OP, SICK ride man!!! Congrats on finally getting it, hope you have a great install day today!

[BzzzBom]

I thought the sways made a huge difference, more than the later addition of the AK. The sways changed the understeer to 95% neutral handling on corners and virtually eliminated the OEM body roll. The addition of the AK simply tightened up the steering a bit, especially noticeable on fwy and initial turn in during hard cornering.

[well_armed]

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[V8EATER]

Awesome!

[well_armed]

What were your impressions of the handling characteristics with JUST sways on vs. after the AK went on as well? I had my eurocode sways installed yesterday (haven't REALLY had the chance to fully test them out) but overall they did not make as BIG of a difference as I had hoped. They are definetly noticeable, but not to the extent I was hoping. Did you find the AK made a BIG difference above just the sways?

My AK will be delivered when the group buy ends. Can't wait and really hoping it stiffens this car up in the turns, still too much squishy body roll for my tastes!

OP, SICK ride man!!! Congrats on finally getting it, hope you have a great install day today!


Well, after a couple hundred miles under my belt, I can confidently say that these modifications make a serious difference on the cars handling profile.

BTW, it took me 8 hours with 2 guys to install the following using a lift.

H&R Springs
Eurocode Front & Rear Sway bars
Eurocode Front & Rear Endlinks
Eurocode Alu Kruez
SPC Adj. Upper Control Arms (front)
AWE Intake
AWE Exhaust

This is with a beer and pizza, smoke breaks, and learning on the job.


The Alu Kruez makes a significant difference in giving the feedback to the car. The best way to describe it is that when doing small inputs off dead center, before the feel was numb and completely void from any hydraulic feedback that you are used to sensing. NOW, it is much tighter and natural feeling. I can see how the guys at eCode say the AK makes a larger difference in B8.5's with the electronic steering module.

The sways do exactly as they are supposed to. Car is much more flat in turns, and now easier to induce on-throttle oversteer. Springs I suspect are more of a look than actual handling benefit, although the car is lower to the ground, I suspect the sway bars could achieve the result most are looking for if they want to keep the stock ride height.

AWE exhaust is pure sex. Tons of videos and reviews out there, so I won't waste any time.

Only issue we encountered was with the APC adj. front control arms. The drivers side sticks out a little more than the right (matched the length of the stocks independently), which causes some slight rubbing on the plastic fender liner when hitting bumps, or pushing the suspension up into the wheel well. (right above the arm). I had to trim a tad bit of plastic to make room and all is good. I suspect that when I get an alignment it will gain more clearance.

[thedollardoctor]

Appreciate the input on the AK. What you described is EXACTLY what I am looking for! More precise steering feedback. This to me is what is lacking most from the factory with the S4 compared to other cars I have had. My 11' G37 provided excellent feedback between the road and my hands and adding sways greatly improved the body roll issues. I had expected a similar change in the S, but apparently the item that fixes this the best is the AK. I am now very much looking forward to getting the AK installed! Thanks for the info!

[ultra]

congrats on the car and all the goodies, which tune you going to go with?

[well_armed]

None yet.

[pandi]

Cool that your mechanic lets you be in the bay. One of the mechanics I contacted doesn't even want me to wait. My guess is that the work takes less time than quoted hours and he doesn't want me to know!

[well_armed]

Cool that your mechanic lets you be in the bay. One of the mechanics I contacted doesn't even want me to wait. My guess is that the work takes less time than quoted hours and he doesn't want me to know!

That is my buddies garage. Yes he has a lift. [:D]

[pandi]

That is my buddies garage. Yes he has a lift. [:D]

Oh yeah, beer and pizza guy! I forgot..does he work on audi a lot? I know he is a chevy mechanic. I am debating whether i should let a guy who has only done coils on BMWs do mine..

[well_armed]

He's worked on a few Audi's before.

They are not that difficult to work on. As long as he is patient and careful, it should go smoothly.

[Auditude2.0T]

None yet.

Since you've opted for the AWE exhaust and intake I say you opt for GIAC tune!

[well_armed]

Since you've opted for the AWE exhaust and intake I say you opt for GIAC tune!

And I probably will, but I will do it after a few thousand miles. Right now the power is really good, a tune will provide a refresh after some ownership time. [drive]

[well_armed]

Laser Interceptor Install this afternoon.

First...a wash.
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Mounted
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My LED in the dash
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[ptx415]

loving it. More pics!!!

[Patrick Bateman]

loving it. More pics!!!

No more pics!! MORE MILES!! Drive baby...Drive!!

pB.

[well_armed]

I know, tomorrow I am going to drain the tank (after alignment)

[well_armed]

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[ptx415]

No more pics!! MORE MILES!! Drive baby...Drive!!

pB.

drive and take pics

[well_armed]

One more of the alignment, as I am on my third conference call of the day...argh!!

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FYI, with the APC adjustable control arms....You have to trim the plastic in the fender if you have it dropped. The ball joint is much thicker and has clearance issues.

[well_armed]

Ordered my wheels today from Alex @TAG.

Here is a quick photoshop of them on...

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[ptx415]

nice photoshop. wheels will look great on your car

[pandi]

Does that thing that attaches to the wheel for alignment scratch the wheel?

[well_armed]

Nope

[DannyDeez]

Awesome build!! Do you have any pics of how the 255 michelin pilots look on the CH-R's? Im trying to see what the stretch(if any) looks like.

[well_armed]

Do a search for bbs ch-r, tons of guys showing 255's

One in the wheels forum if I recall

[ModBargains.com]

Great list of performance mods there. I'm sure you're having a blast!

[jedirocker]

Exactly how many hours has your car spent on racks? [:D]

[well_armed]

Awesome build!! Do you have any pics of how the 255 michelin pilots look on the CH-R's? Im trying to see what the stretch(if any) looks like.

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[well_armed]

New wheels came from Alex @ TAG Motorsports, opti coated them while they were fresh out of the boxes.

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[DannyDeez]

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Thanks man! Just the pic I was looking for.

Sent from my HTC One X+

[well_armed]

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[well_armed]

Come to find out, the ADS cars come with a 0.5" plastic spacer (REAR ONLY), as the ADS springs are shorter than the non-ads equipped springs.

Greg @Eurocode informed me of this head scratcher after I couldn't figure out why my H&R OE springs were sitting higher than comparable cars.

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I had to actually put the car back on the lift and take the spacer out, and now all is well.

FYI for you ADS equipped cars.


#11 is actually comprised of two different pieces on the ADS cars.
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[well_armed]

Fender measurements

Before:
Front/Left: 26.10
Front/Right: 26.15
Rear/Left: 27
Rear/Right: 26.75

After removal of plastic piece:
Front/Left: 26.10
Front/Right: 26.15
Rear/Left: 26.5
Rear/Right: 26.25



It is not that the ADS cars sit higher but the rear ADS springs are slightly shorter than non-ads equipped cars.

When we do any spring install on a ads car, we remove the plastic spacer to ensure the car sits as the customer has expected.

[well_armed]

The way I understand it, the rear spring on ADS equipped cars is shorter. So therefore to achieve the same stock height, they use a plastic spacer.

When you stack the H&R up next to the OE rear spring, it is not that much shorter.

I installed the rear springs with the spacer, and the rear was actually sitting much higher (rake effect) than the front. This is what got me searching (took over a month to figure this out) and contacting various vendors (including H&R themselves). It may sound trivial for such a cheap mod, but half the reason is for the look, and I wasn't satisfied knowing it was wrong. Greg from Eurocode actually solved the mystery, after I called him and asked that maybe my height was being affected by sway bar preload (as I installed their full USS system), as the rear sway bar endlinks are not adjustable like the fronts.

Thursday night I took the spacer out, and reinstalled the springs. The car sits how others do on the forums (comparatively), and the wheel gap is now consistent with the front.

Non-ADS cars do not have the plastic spacer, so I am 100% positive that it will need to be removed for the H&R springs to sit the way they were intended.

Additionally, the ride is much better now that the spring is stretched out to spec.

This is with the spacer removed.

Much bettar.


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[well_armed]

Dyno'd my AWE Exhaust and Intake today. I am pretty sure my eurocode stuff added at least 1hp to the graph :)

SAME DYNO, DIFFERENT DAYS
Drive Select: Dynamic
Gear: 3
Traction control: off
Octane: 92
Car Mileage: ~1270 miles
Tires: Blizzak LM-60's
Dyno: Dynojet HPE 650
Place: http://www.carbconn.com

STOCK DYNO RUN:
66.6F / 45% Humidity / Pressure 29.3 in-Hg

AWE DYNO RUN:
60.7F / 61% Humidity / Pressure 30.3 in-Hg

Run File_3= Stock
Run File_9= AWE Exhaust +AWE Intake

(1) Uncorrected / No Smoothing
Stock_HP: 300.92 / AWE_HP: 310.61 (+9.69)
Stock_TQ: 286.53 / AWE_TQ: 291.82 (+5.29)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8186/8431327868_51066a70d3_b.jpg

(2) SAE / No Smoothing
Stock_HP: 300.92 / AWE_HP: 310.61 (-5.10)
Stock_TQ: 286.53 / AWE_TQ: 291.82 (-8.59)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8190/8430247743_67dc1b6e18_b.jpg

(3) 4th Gear Pulls
Stock_HP: 280.05 / AWE_HP: 284.10 (+4.05)
Stock_TQ: 284.89 / AWE_TQ: 291.03 (+6.14)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8234/8430573387_51017e20a4_b.jpg


And here is a buddy of mine's response to asking which graph to use (SAE vs. Uncorrected):

Cliff Notes: Use uncorrected Dyno numbers (no SAE correction or smoothing) with forced induction engines.


SAE correction factors correct for changes in Temp, atmospheric pressure
and humidity. SAE standard conditions are: 77F, 29.23"/Hg, 0% humidity.
The typical relationship to power is: as Temp increases Power decreases, as
pressure increases power increases, as humidity increases power decreases.
Looking at the conditions for run 3 the pressure was very close to
standard. That's why run 3 didn't show much change between Uncorr and SAE.

The temp, pressure and humidity all were different between run 3 and run 9.
In run 9 the temp went down and the pressure went up. The actual humidity
was probably quite close to the same, as Relative humidity % is dependant
on the temp. So temp down and pressure up explains why the SAE correction
would have your Run 9 power down. The problem is that the SAE correction
factor, especially for pressure, doesn't work well for forced induction
engines. The turbo is controlling the pressure entering the intake system,
not the atmosphere. There was likely very little to no difference in
cylinder pressure during your 2 runs. On top of that you have an
intercooler influencing intake air temp, and changing the effect of air
temp on actual power from the SAE correction.

So I'd recommend looking at the Uncorrected numbers to judge the mods in
this case.

The smoothed vs un-smoothed doesn't really make much of a difference.
Unsmoothed is just a straight line drawn between each point of data.
Smoothed is a best fit curve between points to help eliminate noise and
outlying points. I don't know what the sampling rate was in these runs.
If its very high a smoothed line can be very accurate and better to use.
If the sampling rate is low smoothing can introduce more error. Remember
the max power and torque number really isn't very meaningful. The
important thing is area under the curve, or the gap area between the line
of the runs being compared. Based on the Uncorrected graph I'd say this
intake and exhaust gave you a nice increase especially at high rpm

Just an FYI.

[well_armed]

Ready to tackle eurocode headers
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8247/8450979065_86c389da50_b.jpg

Nah but really, I put a lift in for my Toyota FJ40 restoration project.

[Gweezil]

Ready to tackle eurocode headers
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8247/8450979065_86c389da50_b.jpg

Nah but really, I put a lift in for my Toyota FJ40 restoration project.

This garage kicks ass.

[well_armed]

Thanks, switching to a side mount garage door opener to gain another couple feet (12 foot ceiling)

[infinkc]

Thanks, switching to a side mount garage door opener to gain another couple feet (12 foot ceiling)

nice, i want to do a side mount one also, and also extend the track height to the ceiling.

[well_armed]

Background:
After installing the Eurocode's USS suspension kit myself (sways, links, Alu, etc.), I liked their build quality-- and most importantly -- the performance gains met my expectations.

I purchased an AWE exhaust and intake from Alex @Tag Motorsports (and BBS wheels) -- loved the system. It gave me a dyno proven 10whp gain on pump gas. The sound was great, droned @1500-2000 RPMS with slight throttle, but I was happy with the overall sound it provided.

Eurocode's headers were always on the radar, but I just spent $2K+ on an exhaust and didn't want to spend another $3500 (with install) on the header package. I also was on the fence of whether or not I wanted to go that far modifying the car -- afterall I was waiting for Stasis to come out with their tune.

Well, once I convinced myself that headers were a worthwhile modification, (and a little research) I realized I had a little problem with the AWE exhaust being too loud with the catless headers. I needed a Milltek resonated system to mate with the new headers, but that would take weeks to procure from the local distributor.

Enter Eurocode.

I called up Greg and told him my situation, and we cooked up an awesome solution. He'd sell me Dave's milltek system (off his own car), and Dave would install my AWE on his car until the new milltek's came in from the UK. I was definitely impressed with the fact that they were willing to do that.

After driving from Seattle to Los Angeles (wife was visiting with my daughter @Disneyland, so I surprised them), I dropped off the car the next morning with Greg. They installed the headers in one day. Since I was visiting friends (ie. drinking that night) I told Eurcode to keep it overnight and take their time.

Recap of Eurocode's Customer Service:
-Great deal on the installation since I was driving from Seattle
-The owner gave me the exhaust off his own car, since they couldn't get one in time for my impromptu road trip
-Sold me Greg's headers he was going to put on his own car
-Boxed up and shipped my old exhaust to the buyer
-Free tank of gas to get me home, and a comped the alignment because their local guy took forever to complete

Impressions:
After driving it for 24 hours, I can say without a doubt the power increase is noticeable. The torque comes on sooner, and it pulls with more gusto towards redline. Remember, I drove down fromSeattle (1200 miles) just a few days ago, so the stock feel is still in my muscle memory. It just breathes better.

The AWE system was installed on Dave's car, and it is so fucking loud that you would have to be 21 to think its cool (wink: Auditude). The milltek on the other hand is almost as quiet as a stock system while putting around town, but throws the V8 bark when you step on it. The sound of the Milltek with the headers is great, it is definitely different from the AWE lamborghini tone, but it is OH so sweet sounding (both inside and outside the car).

Most importantly, it is wife approved. She thought the AWE was too loud, the new exhaust is "great!"

Inside the cabin, it is a civil sounding combination. It idles the same, cold starts much quieter than with the AWE, and has considerably less drone in 7th gear @2k rpm vs. the AWE (even with Headers!). Surprisingly, I almost find the milltek/header combination quieter than a stock AWE system.

Milltek:

http://youtu.be/jLZFzufQE6k

AWE:

http://youtu.be/iqI37FTLHaQ


Conclusion:
If I were to do it all over again, I would go Milltek from the beginning and install headers before I get an exhaust to begin with (stock pipes if necessary). Exhaust is basically for sound, and the headers give this to you with a healthy performance gain to boot. Pound for pound, its more logical and economical for the gains to get headers. I am a believer.

Next up: GIAC tune tomorrow @10am

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[scrofas5]

great setup. just installed awe intake and catback. love it so far, felt a difference right away in power , very exotic sounding exhaust. did too many 1st -3rd gear pulls in one day lol. headers are definately something id consider for power gains, but would only do it with miltek ofcourse. headers and awe is crazy loud!! lol

are you going for st.1 giac first? granted that st.2 and pulley isnt out, unless your getting special treatment:(.

trying to convince myself to just get st.1 for now , cause im dying for a tune :(.

[well_armed]

Stage 1. They are only developing a S2 tune for only B8 cars (not B8.5).

[DannyDeez]

Stage 1. They are only developing a S2 tune for only B8 cars (not B8.5).

PM sent

[scrofas5]

Stage 1. They are only developing a S2 tune for only B8 cars (not B8.5).

Giac stated that the b8.5 tune would follow shortly after release of the b8. Unless things have changed.

[well_armed]

GIAC Stage 1 tune + Eurocode Headers + Pacific Coast Highway + [drive]= [hail]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8251/8506335392_86301f4e34_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8229/8506335752_34ddf35555_b.jpg

[thedollardoctor]

Giac stated that the b8.5 tune would follow shortly after release of the b8. Unless things have changed.

+1, this is correct! The B8.5 Stage II tune will be released along with B8. According to my conversations with GIAC the B8.5 DSG Tune may take a bit longer to be released due to new torque monitoring functions in the ECU for the B8.5s..... just my luck :-)

OP, have you finally had the chance to let the Stage I tune fully take hold? And if so...................... well?

[well_armed]

yup, its fully seated. Remember, I flashed in Irvine and drove into Seattle two days later....

Tune is great -- coupled with the headers-- it really gave me the low end torque I was craving. I could care less about peak HP, I WANT MORE TORQUE! lol

[s4pwndu]

Have you done a dyno since the GIAC tune and the EUROCODE HEADERS? I'm curious about the gains you've experienced since your original dyno.

[Massey]

Have you done a dyno since the GIAC tune and the EUROCODE HEADERS? I'm curious about the gains you've experienced since your original dyno.

Me too I have the giac tune, awe full system, and really want the headers!!!

[well_armed]

dyno soon...

[s4pwndu]

Noob, stoopid question: Are "downpipes" the same as "headers"? If not, what's the difference?

[Josh/AWE]

On these cars, the Downpipes are located after the headers and cats to provide additional sound tuning. No performance gains to be had, just a change in overall volume. Headers are where you would pick up additional power due to a restrictive factory system.

[well_armed]

switched out from AWE to Roc-Euro
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8089/8513496884_e5f8fc8826_b.jpg

Anybody want to buy my AWE?

[well_armed]

Had some time and made a video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oItwFh0s9GY

[Wilbur]

Thanks man! Just the pic I was looking for.

Sent from my HTC One X+

NICE...still got tits on the tires!

[s4pwndu]

I have a question about your OptiCoat,...

Do you still wax your car or is OptiCoat supposed to replace regular waxing?

[well_armed]

Only polish

[s4pwndu]

Only polish

What does polishing do? I assumed the Opti-Coat worked as a sealant and if you polished you were really just polishing the Opti-Coat.

Does polishing give it a shine?

[well_armed]

http://www.autopiaforums.com/forums/waxes-sealants-lsps/40246-polishing-opti-coat-frustrated.html

[easytreez]

Awesome build, love the car. So now with the e code headers and the milltek exhaust is this a fully cat less system?

[well_armed]

Yes

[well_armed]

UPDATED DYNO RUNS:

2013 Audi S4
DSG transmission
92 Octane
Eurocode Headers (eliminated all cats from exhaust system)
Roc-Euro Intake
Milltek Exhaust (Resonated)
GIAC ECU Stage 1 Flash (91 Map)

3rd Gear Gains (File: 3 & 17):
HP: +77.54
TQ: +62.67

4th Gear Gains (Files: 1&11):
HP: +77.40
TQ: +52.47

Right on par with my expectations.

Interesting Note: The more runs I did, the higher my peak HP numbers (as I reset the ECU only a day before my appointment, which resets the adaptation).

I probably would have thrown higher peak numbers, if I did one more cool down but my 1-hour appt. was up. Either way, I'm happy with the gains!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8505/8535283934_0e45998248_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8227/8534174237_15fe5eda75_b.jpg

[well_armed]

Video of the Dyno Pull:


http://youtu.be/XUNgF4uCAUw

[well_armed]

FYI, I went from AWE intake to Roc-Euro, AWE exhaust (with resonated dps) to Milltek resonated.

[SteveYem]

Thanks for posting that video of you driving. Brightened my otherwise black cloud-covered day at work. Sounds crazy with the roc intake letting all sorts of SC whine out

[Ziggler25]

This whole thread is Full of Win! Car is Awesome. Garage is Awesome. Love it.

[EHesh14]

Thanks for the entertaining thread :)

[mrmomo313]

Thanks for the entertaining thread :)

+1

awesome ride, tastefully modded

[well_armed]

Mirror mount for the Escort
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8232/8529506071_3789dae912_b.jpg

And another pic of the whole car on my epic bucket list drive up PCH...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8556449352_db9e702a4f_b.jpg

People keep asking me how much I have put into the car, why didn't I just buy a corvette, or GTR, or Porsche or whatever. What they don't understand is I picked this car for two reasons:
1) I always wanted an S4 when I was in high school. But alas my 93 Astro Van was all I could afford.
2) I wanted a fast daily driver, handles well in the rain (Seattle), holds a couple car seats, and doesn't scream "Hey look at me, I want you to think I make a lot a lot of money!"

The GTR (which I almost bought) would have been too flashy. The S4 slides in nicely in my realm of speed and refinement. And most people just think I drive an A4 with nice wheels. :)

[aaronz]

Mirror mount for the Escort
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8232/8529506071_3789dae912_b.jpg

And another pic of the whole car on my epic bucket list drive up PCH...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8556449352_db9e702a4f_b.jpg

People keep asking me how much I have put into the car, why didn't I just buy a corvette, or GTR, or Porsche or whatever. What they don't understand is I picked this car for two reasons:
1) I always wanted an S4 when I was in high school. But alas my 93 Astro Van was all I could afford.
2) I wanted a fast daily driver, handles well in the rain (Seattle), holds a couple car seats, and doesn't scream "Hey look at me, I want you to think I make a lot a lot of money!"

The GTR (which I almost bought) would have been too flashy.

Nice so that mount ended up working?

[motionneon]

Mirror mount for the Escort
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8232/8529506071_3789dae912_b.jpg

And another pic of the whole car on my epic bucket list drive up PCH...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8365/8556449352_db9e702a4f_b.jpg

People keep asking me how much I have put into the car, why didn't I just buy a corvette, or GTR, or Porsche or whatever. What they don't understand is I picked this car for two reasons:
1) I always wanted an S4 when I was in high school. But alas my 93 Astro Van was all I could afford.
2) I wanted a fast daily driver, handles well in the rain (Seattle), holds a couple car seats, and doesn't scream "Hey look at me, I want you to think I make a lot a lot of money!"

The GTR (which I almost bought) would have been too flashy. The S4 slides in nicely in my realm of speed and refinement. And most people just think I drive an A4 with nice wheels. :)

Love your car. Wheels look AWESOME with your exterior color. Which color is is?

[well_armed]

Monsoon Grey.

I ended up with the 23mm mount to work. The mirror mount is tapered, so I used some electrical tape to make it level and then clamped down hard. Bam.

Also, its a lot easier to do this with the mirror off! (just pop it off...)

[DATZ]

How are you liking the ride quality on the OE's?

[well_armed]

The escort mount sucks though, I need to fabricate a way to make it bounce less.

There is also this one as an option: http://www.rogueradarmount.com/index.html

[dewey527]

Unbelievable car! I love how you have maintained the classy aspect but added a whole lot of fun!

[thedollardoctor]

Just getting caught up on your thread. Great stuff man!! Loved the video of you driving around. I'm blown away by how civil the miltek exhaust sounds with the headers! Great paring with the roc euro too.

Also super impressed with the dyno results with his stage I on pump and headers, intake, and exhaust! Those are VERY impressive!

You must be incredibly happy with the progress thus far! Though I know you crave more TORQUE! And I have a feeling you will have that soon......

[well_armed]

Did somebody say more torque? :-D

[DLAB]

I'm curious, what is your favorite mod thus far?

[well_armed]

Getting head (ers).

[well_armed]

Changed the oil today.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8378/8566228827_98c049c0fc_b.jpg


Snapped a pic of the O2 sensor relocation/spacer
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8246/8566228433_45f02581e8_b.jpg

[well_armed]

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[brocken]

Wow! Nice setup. Looks like you've been having fun. :)

If you don't mind losing the use of your visor there's a $5 Escort mount that clips on. I almost never use my visor and it keeps the detector out of sight.

[NWS4Guy]

Loks good, got them all bedded in now? How's stopping feel, and pedal modulation? Take it you put in some high temp fluid?

[well_armed]

Loks good, got them all bedded in now? How's stopping feel, and pedal modulation? Take it you put in some high temp fluid?

They are second hand and I am sure they owner bedded them in...but I am going to re-bed them tonight. Some 3am I-90 runs are necessary, as they tell you to do (10) 60-10mph hard braking (80%) intervals, followed up by a cooling lap (then do it again after they completely cool).

[Tomasz@Startup]

Loks good, got them all bedded in now? How's stopping feel, and pedal modulation? Take it you put in some high temp fluid?

My modulation and pedal feel is better than on my old Cayman! But I think Emergency Brake Assist exaggerates how strong these are, and I will try to disable it over the weekend and test. This only matters when you jump on / mash the brake to enable EBA.

T

[NWS4Guy]

Wonder if you got them from our local guy here who went RS5 recently...

[well_armed]

Well the rain put a damper on my plan to bed them in tonight. Maybe tomorrow evening.

So far so good, the pedal feel is rock solid. Doesn't have the same 'bite' the stock pads have, but is much more linear from beginning to 'oh fuck'

Track day here I come!


Wonder if you got them from our local guy here who went RS5 recently...

Bought them off a guy on the East Coast (he had a part out thread). The shitty thing was he had them removed/shipped from Excelerate performance (same shop I was going to buy from), and they showed up in the worst pack job I have EVER seen.

Basically all the parts were loosely thrown into some smaller boxes with no padding, and the rotors were actually stacked on top of each other (grinding their way here). Laziest tuner shop pack job I have ever witnessed. I was fuming when they showed up, but now I am calmed down after inspecting and installing (and everything is okay).

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8513/8595999491_ce2bc4183a_b.jpg

I mean who packs over 80 lbs of stuff into one box with absolutely no padding or reinforcement?

[1MORLAP]

Well the rain put a damper on my plan to bed them in tonight. Maybe tomorrow evening.

So far so good, the pedal feel is rock solid. Doesn't have the same 'bite' the stock pads have, but is much more linear from beginning to 'oh fuck'

Track day here I come!



Bite should be there after bedding. I am driving a loaner A6 S-Line (that thing is FAST and SMOOOOTH and BIIIG) and brakes scare me. I have much more bite, feel, etc.

[well_armed]

My codes with spacers removed:

Friday,29,March,2013,10:34:16:29926
VCDS Version: Beta 12.10.3

Address 01: Engine Labels: 06E-907-551-CGW.clb
Control Module Part Number: 8K5 907 551 E HW: 4G0 907 551 A
Component and/or Version: 3.0l V6 TFSIH07 0002
Software Coding: 0A250034052600060000
Work Shop Code: WSC 06208 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551E 001002 (AU48)
VCID: 387FEC2983276DDE775
2 Faults Found:

13272 - Catalyst System; Bank 1
P0420 00 [101] - Efficiency Below Threshold
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 8354 km
Date: 2013.03.29
Time: 06:51:19

13273 - Catalyst System; Bank 2
P0430 00 [101] - Efficiency Below Threshold
Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 8354 km
Date: 2013.03.29
Time: 06:51:20


Readiness: 0000 0000

[PCHS4]

Where did you locate the O2 sensor? What section of the exhaust?

[well_armed]

just after the downpipe resonater.

[PCHS4]

Did EuroCode do this as part of the install or did you need to do it later?


just after the downpipe resonater.

[well_armed]

Already done, as I took David's exhaust right off his car.

[PCHS4]

So, you still get error codes or did the spacers fix that. What about any CEL issues?

[well_armed]

Yes. Mil every 4-8 days.

I only have to deal with it until giac releases their stage 2 test pipe file.

[Tekk]

People keep asking me how much I have put into the car, why didn't I just buy a corvette, or GTR, or Porsche or whatever. What they don't understand is I picked this car for two reasons:
1) I always wanted an S4 when I was in high school. But alas my 93 Astro Van was all I could afford.
2) I wanted a fast daily driver, handles well in the rain (Seattle), holds a couple car seats, and doesn't scream "Hey look at me, I want you to think I make a lot a lot of money!"[/B]

The GTR (which I almost bought) would have been too flashy. The S4 slides in nicely in my realm of speed and refinement. And most people just think I drive an A4 with nice wheels. :)

Couldn't agree with you more. Coming from a modified RS4 I was ready to get into something that could be civil when I want it to be (e.g. driving with the family) but a great sports sedan when it doesn't need to be 'quiet' (e.g. during a beautiful SoCal sunny day and driving up Hwy 2 or PCH, etc, etc). I will definitely miss the RS as it was the best car I have owned thus far in my life but Im loving the S4 and am happy with my choice. Now its a matter of holding off on modifying it for a bit despite my desire to buy buy buy :) "Enjoy the car as it stands" I keep telling myself....we'll see how long that lasts! [evilsmile]

[well_armed]

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[well_armed]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8244/8644769540_f6c16c1df7_z.jpg

[well_armed]

Track day yesterday. Stoptech's did great. After lunch it started pouring, everyone left, and it went to open lapping -- dorifto style. Our S4 was made for wet tracks. Went thru 1.5 tanks of gas and the car did great.


http://youtu.be/xx2R_SfRod8

[well_armed]

Shot of the rain:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8117/8646262480_69cfd9a718_b.jpg

[well_armed]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8382/8647145826_d7fa40032f_b.jpg
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[handruin]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8382/8647145826_d7fa40032f_b.jpg
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Looks like a good time. Are the fog lights taped blue? Is that to protect them from road debri?

[well_armed]

my buddy did that as a joke...but yes

[kcrunch]

Laser Interceptor Install this afternoon.

Mounted
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8069/8247877267_fd585733f6_c.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8067/8247877469_cebe6af85a_c.jpg



Beautiful car. Love the mods. I have the same B8.5 S4 in Monsoon but bone stock, except the LI. I mounted the LI heads in the same place you did - I'm curious if you've had yours tested with a lidar gun?

[well_armed]

Beautiful car. Love the mods. I have the same B8.5 S4 in Monsoon but bone stock, except the LI. I mounted the LI heads in the same place you did - I'm curious if you've had yours tested with a lidar gun?

Tested in the wild, four times, no punch thrus (CHP, OSP, WSP). I also bought the handheld tester that they sell, wanted to make sure it was on! LOL

[well_armed]

Update:

Bought a rebuilt set of Ohlins SL (Stasis Challenge) coil overs from Jeff @SPM. Super easy to install, and so far so good. Low speed bump compliance is night and day better, less bounce, etc. -- over H&R Lowering springs.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8240/8661441669_9d6a1fd961_b.jpg

[PCHS4]

That's right! Coilovers combined with front and rear sway bars, drop links, DTS, and control arms are the deal. I have KW V3s (at 1.5" drop) and every time I drive a car without coilovers that's the first thing I notice. I have the front/rear camber at 2.00/1.75 degrees. 2.25/2.00 is the recommended, but I was concerned about tire wear.


Update:

Bought a rebuilt set of Ohlins SL (Stasis Challenge) coil overs from Jeff @SPM. Super easy to install, and so far so good. Low speed bump compliance is night and day better, less bounce, etc. -- over H&R Lowering springs.

[well_armed]

This is the first time I've done lowering springs. I've always had coilovers or properly matched strut/spring combos. I bought a car with ADS so I wanted to try and see if it worked with the stock damping curve. It didnt.

[well_armed]

Another shot of the whole side
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8244/8663738740_cf155a2410_h.jpg

I am sitting at Stasis ride height recommendations (wheel center to fender lip, B8 S4 Sedan).
Front: 13.5"
Rear: 13.38" (3/8")

gonna roll around a bit and see if I want to raise it up a bit

[Gromit]

That's right! Coilovers combined with front and rear sway bars, drop links, DTS, and control arms are the deal. I have KW V3s (at 1.5" drop) and every time I drive a car without coilovers that's the first thing I notice. I have the front/rear camber at 2.00/1.75 degrees. 2.25/2.00 is the recommended, but I was concerned about tire wear.

I'm focusing in on the KW V3s rather than the Bilsteins, Konis or Stasis/Ohlins. I'm curious if you did any kind of comparison evaluation of those. From what I've learned, the KW V3s seem like the best option, but I'm keeping an open mind and interested in hearing from others.

[DATZ]

Do you get any sort of ADS warning light on the dash with the coilovers on or does the error code only pop up in a vagcom scan?

[well_armed]

I bought them used from Jeff @SPM, they had just been rebuilt and the price was great. I only have 5 miles on them so far (drove to work), I will report back later.

And yes I have a MIL on the dash, I am trying to work that out right now in the VCDS post.

[PCHS4]

I picked the KW V3s after reading the forums and talking with people, especially David at EuroCode - when he is not busy he will talk for hours about this stuff. A lot of people track the KWs and they can handle it. Are they the best, who knows, but I am extremely happy with the ride and handling. I can never go back.


I'm focusing in on the KW V3s rather than the Bilsteins, Konis or Stasis/Ohlins. I'm curious if you did any kind of comparison evaluation of those. From what I've learned, the KW V3s seem like the best option, but I'm keeping an open mind and interested in hearing from others.

[Deckdout2]

You've come a long way real fast, and you picked up some fantastic parts along the way. The track vid looks amazingly fun. I have yet to do a road course- been to auto-x and down the strip numerous times, but have my heart set on going to VIR or a good road course soon. Do you have ADS- if so did you lose the functionality of the suspension with the Ohlins? Keep up the modding- looks great man!

-Paramy

[Deckdout2]

I'm focusing in on the KW V3s rather than the Bilsteins, Konis or Stasis/Ohlins. I'm curious if you did any kind of comparison evaluation of those. From what I've learned, the KW V3s seem like the best option, but I'm keeping an open mind and interested in hearing from others.

b6bydesign has the kw's and dislikes them.

[well_armed]

Setting up suspension is tough. I trust Stasis to do there job and pick the right valving for me. I like a product that was developed specifically for my car and weight, etc.

I've had adjustable High/low rebound and Compression stuff, and it is very difficult to setup properly.

But to answer your question, yes it eliminates the ADS function as the OEM struts were taken off the car.

[richib86]

b6bydesign has the kw's and dislikes them.

i love mine

[Deckdout2]

Setting up suspension is tough. I trust Stasis to do there job and pick the right valving for me. I like a product that was developed specifically for my car and weight, etc.

I've had adjustable High/low rebound and Compression stuff, and it is very difficult to setup properly.

But to answer your question, yes it eliminates the ADS function as the OEM struts were taken off the car.

Sounds like it's time for you to go get corner balanced. [:D]

From one suspension guru to another I understand where you're coming from completely.


i love mine

I'm sure it has something to do with it blowing out on him once or twice and him having to deal with their service.

[Foxglove]

Love this thread -- how are you liking the stoptech? I went to the track last weekend for a DE with everything bone stock. I can tell I'll need larger brakes or better pads -- something. Although they did well, I experienced some fading at the end of my runs. Also, more stopping power the better in general, so I am looking into stoptech as well as carbotech for pads. Thoughts?

Ross

[Sms4Hou]

really like that car! looks like mine... meteor gray, with piano black 7 "something" wheels. :) mine are forgestar f14, not the nicer BBS wheels. also, the stoptec brakes look really sharp.

[handruin]

Question about the install of your former H&R OE sport springs. I believe you originally put them on prior to the coil-overs. When they get installed did you have to take apart the multi link suspension in order to get the oem ones out and put the H&R in or can they come out an easier way like compressing? When I asked my local shop they thought the suspension has to be disconnected. I've never done springs which is why I'm asking.

[well_armed]

I just had a baby, so I am afraid this thread will get updated rather infrequently.

Here is my 1/4 passes....

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8395/8700174789_b392ef9eec_k.jpg

12.206 @113.64MPH
-526 DA
Pacific Raceways NHRA

2013 DSG
91 GIAC Stage 1 File (Pump)
Roc Euro intake
Eurocode catless headers
Milltek Resonated "Cat-back"
19" BBS CH-R / Michelin PSS 255/35R19
Stoptech 380mm ST-60

Driver: 175lbs
ESP OFF/OFF
Dynamic Mode
1/4 Tank
Spare removed
No launch control

1st time drag racing. Good times


http://youtu.be/GmxM9P6eiqQ

[thedollardoctor]

Kickass solid times man! Consistent as well. Very nice! To my knowledge these are the fastest Stage I pump times on ANY tuning platform? Especially impressive on 91 octane! Hmmmmm, maybe there IS something to the headers afterall? :-)

[well_armed]

APR Coolant reservoir fits on facelifted cars...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8736554821_cd19924c84_c.jpg

[well_armed]

Corner balanced and alignment.

4157 lbs with full tank and me in it. These cars are meant for German concrete salesmen.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8560/8776125584_0ab303eeaa_c.jpg

[DATZ]

Did you ever get your ADS error coded out after installing your coilovers?

[thedollardoctor]

WTF?! Image not posted......

[thedollardoctor]

Ahhhhhhhh, nice! Can't wait to see what you do with your NEW toy :-)

MUCH better choice for a dedicated road course car anyway.....

[aaronz]

Awesome, great color!

[drob23]

Sweet!!! This seems like a better move considering your how aggressively you've been modding your S4. Was worried you were gonna start pulling out seats and taking out the AC [:D] You planning to part out some the S4 mods or just refrain from taking her to the track? If you don't mind me asking, have you always been into tracking/modding cars?

[The_Transporter]

Damn... I was hoping you'd be the first to run stage 2 AND headers. Anyone running that setup yet with QM times or Dyno numbers?
The RS is beautiful btw!!!

[petrashevsky]

Damn... I was hoping you'd be the first to run stage 2 AND headers. Anyone running that setup yet with QM times or Dyno numbers?

Imolamoster has APR stage 2 and headers.
His best 1/4 mile was 11.8 @ 116
with the back seat and other things removed, I should add.

[The_Transporter]

Imolamoster has APR stage 2 and headers.
His best 1/4 mile was 11.8 @ 116
with the back seat and other things removed, I should add.

Nice!!! Do you know what octane tune for that run?

[petrashevsky]

Nice!!! Do you know what octane tune for that run?

1/4 mile thread from another site shows he was on race fuel running 100 octane tune.
estimated weight savings from stripped interior were 150-200 lbs if I remember correctly.

[jedirocker]

Very jealous of the Porsche purchase! I sooo want a side car for track use, and a used Porsche would fit that bill. But my off-roading desire is stronger, so the money goes into the 4Runner.

[thedollardoctor]

Looking good bro!

[xuandatou]

APR Coolant reservoir fits on facelifted cars...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/8736554821_cd19924c84_c.jpg

Nice looking S4!!

And I'm just wondering how is the APR coolant reservoir working, since I'm planning to upgrade the coolant system

[Auditude2.0T]

Damn... I was hoping you'd be the first to run stage 2 AND headers. Anyone running that setup yet with QM times or Dyno numbers?
The RS is beautiful btw!!!


I went [email protected] with GIAC Stage 2 with Testpipes on 104 octane. My car was a 6MT

[ryan_m]

Blast from the past here, sorry for the thread resurrection.

Question for you about the Escort mount... did you have lots of problems with it bouncing? Ever figure out a solution? I'm shopping to try and find a way to get it cleanly installed (without using the visor) and was looking for feedback on the mount you bought. Great looking car!