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Birdman12
07-15-2012, 04:48 PM
I started another thread about installing the AG-S kit but I have gone in a different direction now so I'd like to sum up the old thread and keep with this one.

I've had my 99.5 1.8T Quattro for 4 years now and I am exited to say that I am finally getting around to repainting the whole car. I began with ordering the Duraflex AG-S 4 piece kit and after test fitting and some "suggestions" from my wife I have decided to go with another route.

To sum up the old thread:

-fitted the AG-S front bumper, didn't fit like I wanted it to, got flamed on, and will take a lot of custom work to make it fit.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/IMG_2060.jpg

-sideskirts fit perfectly and will stay on

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/2bcda4bb.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/388493e8.jpg

-picked up some S4 doors and complete S4 front spindles with brakes. I'm going to keep the middle trim but shaving the lowers.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/519aff48.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/d0b633b1.jpg

-got the Regula Tuning mesh in from Germany for my grille and bumper

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/6c7e43c0.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/6fb6277d.jpg

-started working on the grille and there is way more work involved than I thought! Lots of filling, sanding, and filling, and sanding, and blah blah blah. It is definitely coming along though and starting to look pretty damn good.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/bc4546c3.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/41dd8305.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/31915cfc.jpg

-ditched the front and rear AG-S bumpers and picked this modified S4 front bumper and will be painting the rear lowers to match the rest of the car. I cut out and fitted the Regula mesh but will install it after the paint is done. I left a bit extra material around the sides so I can use some expanding foam to secure it in place.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/10a8b779.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/d26b20a1.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/e369e97d.jpg

The car is going into paint at the end of next week so I have this week to finish up a few things. Here is the list:

-finish front grill
-install front bumper
-replace front left lower door hinge
-replace front right upper door hinge
-replace all 4 doors

The bodyshop will be shaving the lowers on the doors, installing a new windshield and doing all the bodywork. I will fit the skirts some more to get them exactly where I want and then get the bodyshop to finish them off.

KaoticS4
07-16-2012, 12:29 AM
Noob question here... What's the difference between s4 doors and a4 doors, besides the molding? Did you buy new doors for the polished trim along the bottom of the window?

The front bumper look good but I don't see how it was ever an s4 bumper, not saying its not an s4 bumper just saying the mods on that bumper are pretty extensive.

Car should look good when it's done especially with the new paint. Good luck.

CCA4
07-16-2012, 06:34 AM
There is no difference between A4 doors and S4 doors that I've ever heard of, and that's not an S4 bumper....

ianwpb
07-16-2012, 07:41 AM
Yes, not a S4 bumper at all.

I want some S4 spindles/brakes. What does it take to make the brakes work? Plug and Play?

Birdman12
07-16-2012, 07:45 AM
I don't think there is a difference I just got the doors because my passenger side doors were hit before I got the car and they've started to rust out beyond the point of repair without major sheet metal replacement. And ya the trim is a black chrome which looks great and the doors themselves are in immaculate shape.

The bumper is originally an S4 but it was unfortunetaly cut in half basically and a fiberglass lip was epoxied over it. A bit of a waste of a S4 bumper but I like the look of it alot better than just a stock S4. Gonna look great with the mesh in.

ianwpb
07-16-2012, 07:50 AM
Hmm, at least you won't have fitment issues like with the other bumper.

S4 bumper with cupra r lip is still my favorite front bumper set-up. Or RS4 of course.

CCA4
07-16-2012, 07:53 AM
The bumper is originally an S4 but it was unfortunetaly cut in half basically and a fiberglass lip was epoxied over it. A bit of a waste of a S4 bumper but I like the look of it alot better than just a stock S4. Gonna look great with the mesh in.

Sorry but you got taken for a ride on that one man. Whoever told you that was full of shit. That bumper has a molded plate filler and a ridge/rub strip thing along the front, S4 bumpers have neither of those things. And in the second pic down you can see the back of the bumper cover and it's yellow. OEM S4 bumpers are all black ABS plastic and painted to match the car. I also see no evidence of anything being cut and/or epoxied anyplace. The grille openings aren't even the right shape. Should still look nice though.

walky_talky20
07-16-2012, 08:35 AM
I really like the look of that bumper. Does anybody know what it is, exactly?

SIMPLXA4
07-16-2012, 10:28 PM
I really like the look of that bumper. Does anybody know what it is, exactly?

It may or may not be a Rennsport V2 full bumper but looks a lot like it.

Birdman12
07-16-2012, 10:57 PM
Here is another angle I show you what I mean

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/78574c7a.jpg

I'm not sure where the lip is from. I asked the guy I bought it from and he doesn't know either.

I got the grille painted and will be clear coating it tomorrow and installing the mesh. Pumped to see how it turns out!

Birdman12
07-17-2012, 12:08 PM
A quick snap of the texture on the grille. This stuff has way more "texture" than I thought it would but after some clear it will look awesome.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/cc5eb2b0.jpg

It came out great and I am very happy with the result. All I need to do now is install the mesh and rings!

Birdman12
07-22-2012, 10:04 AM
Finally got the doors swapped over yesterday. The rears were easy but the wiring harness was cut in the front doors so I have to re-wire them...not hard just time consuming!

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/a60c994f.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/e227336a.jpg

Put the bumper on this morning. Fits pretty good, but will need some final tweaking, I will let the bodyshop have fun with that :)

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/ef20c331.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/57413d5b.jpg

I am liking it even more after seeing it on the car now. The look of the bumper compliments the shape of the headlights and the grille very nicely. Dropping it off for paint tomorrow!

1broknrado
07-22-2012, 04:49 PM
what was the point of putting the s4 doors on?

Birdman12
07-22-2012, 05:46 PM
The passenger sides were rusting and 3 of 4 door handles corroded out and were being held on by double sided tape. The S4 doors have better tint, handles, and are generally in better condition. I replaced the drivers side lower door hinges while I was at it too.

runvsofme07
07-22-2012, 06:39 PM
*squints* That bumper might actually work... have you looked into putting a lip on it? that might set it off.. It looks like a bumper from a SEAT anyway..

Birdman12
07-22-2012, 06:52 PM
Nah, the bumper is pretty low as it sit already and I think putting a lip on would just make it look like there is too much going on. I want to keep it clean and moderate.

Birdman12
07-24-2012, 06:29 AM
So I dropped the car off at the bodyshop yesterday an will have it back in 2 weeks. Since they work off of factory colors I h e to pick a new color and get some paint codes for him. He suggested something like a M3 blue but told me to look around some more. I have untill the end of the week to decide. I want to stick with a bluish/greyish.

Any suggestions?

howardfootball
07-24-2012, 08:26 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc7865-be88-e839.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc7865-beaf-ff47.jpg

BlazinB5
07-24-2012, 09:48 AM
volcano black mica (oem color)
http://i.imgur.com/AMw9M.jpg

ianwpb
07-24-2012, 01:17 PM
LY7L is probably my favorite. http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/490243-My-98-A4-2-4-V6-Quattro-) this one...

PhillyOne
07-24-2012, 01:55 PM
Pelican Blue

Kiet@PYSpeed.com
07-24-2012, 04:20 PM
Pelican Blue

yeah thats a pretty rare color to have

Birdman12
07-25-2012, 08:13 PM
The car is already Volanco Black Mica. Yes, it's nice but I'm a blue car kind of guy. I've always wanted a blue car but always ended up with every other colour!

I don't want to go with an Audi colour. Sure they have some nice ones but I want something a bit different. I've chosen a Ford Steel Blue Metallic (Paint code UN). I walked around some dealerships today and this really caught my eye:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/0b251004.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/3c4efa7a.jpg

ianwpb
07-25-2012, 09:05 PM
^^ that would be nice. I'm a big fan of Blue slate/metal colors.

Birdman12
07-26-2012, 10:35 AM
Some quick pics from the bodyshop!

Shaved lower door mouldings:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/9dbae3a5.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/bcdf4ac9.jpg

Paint should start within a few days!

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/18f0e466.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/acdfbd1f.jpg

howardfootball
07-26-2012, 11:13 AM
I think you need lighter colored wheels. You can't really see the detail of the wheel when they are black. Just a suggestion.

Nollywood
07-26-2012, 11:55 AM
Just a suggestion: A rushed job never turns out great, neither does cheaping out.

You, or your shop guy need to remove the door handles, side windows and black chrome strips on the doors. And painting a car with the bumper in place, trunk lip, (especially a color change) really? To be honest, the doors, trunk, hood and fenders are best painted off the car. You'll never achieve a clean job with masking round. Lacquer will start lifting around the door handles and upper door trim, due to the fact the hidden areas can't be properly rubbed down.

Is the sunroof being removed prior to roof painting?

Birdman12
07-26-2012, 01:28 PM
I was debating about the wheels actually. I am considering a gun-metal. However, I am getting the roof and mirrors painted gloss black so I think the black rims will keep that 2 tone feel rather than add an extra colour with different wheels. I am going to get some 18's in the spring and just finish the summer off with these wheels so I don't think its worth getting them repainted.

It's no rush job nor a cheap one either. I told him to take some quick pics now and then to keep me posted on the progress. My car is the only car at their shop so it's his only job at the moment and he works long days. I'll bring that up with him, thanks for pointing it out. I'll ask about the sunroof too.

KaoticS4
07-27-2012, 01:17 AM
Just a suggestion: A rushed job never turns out great, neither does cheaping out.

You, or your shop guy need to remove the door handles, side windows and black chrome strips on the doors. And painting a car with the bumper in place, trunk lip, (especially a color change) really? To be honest, the doors, trunk, hood and fenders are best painted off the car. You'll never achieve a clean job with masking round. Lacquer will start lifting around the door handles and upper door trim, due to the fact the hidden areas can't be properly rubbed down.

Is the sunroof being removed prior to roof painting?

I agree with most of this, a car should be prepped with as much as you can off the car but I like to do the actual painting with fenders bumpers etc. on the car for the reason that he will more then likely get a 3 stage paint job (base, metallic, clear). When doing this you want the metallic paint to lay evenly all over the car or you will get uneven color tones unless the painter is VERY VERY good. Paint will go where ever air can go so he shouldn't have a problem if the car is prepped well, plus removing all that can get really costly really quick, I doubt he wants to spend $10k on a paint job for a 10+ year car.

Birdman12
07-27-2012, 02:10 PM
He was in the early stages of prep. The car is all in pieces now with about 2 boxes full of clips, fasteners, and screws that Audi uses
to secure the interior bits and door jam stuff lol

He is far from done and says there is plenty of sanding and painting left to do! He is just spraying the base coats now and will fix any imperfections as he goes. He says it won't be ready till the end of next week at the earilerst.

A quick teaser:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/ea68c62b.jpg

howardfootball
07-27-2012, 03:19 PM
Can you PM me how much you are paying to have the car painted? I am repainting my car next summer and want to get an idea of the cost. Thanks!

Birdman12
07-27-2012, 06:04 PM
PM sent!

1broknrado
07-27-2012, 06:22 PM
Looks much better now!

howardfootball
07-27-2012, 08:57 PM
PM sent!

Thanks for the PM man. You are getting a sweet deal for this. Look forward to seeing it completed.

Birdman12
07-28-2012, 12:07 AM
Just ordered a few things for when I get the car back. Here is the list so far:

Suspension: (trying to tighten things up a bit)
-OEM Tie Rod Ends
-Stern Snub Mount
-Stern Power Ring
-Stern Rear Diff Bushing Kit
-Stern Pro Transmission Mount
-Stern Pro Motor Mounts (x2 - Soft)
-OEM Front and Rear Sway Bar Bushings
-Meyle Rear Sway Bar Links (Full metal upgrade compared to stock plastic links)

Exterior:
-WeatherTech (Canadian made woot woot!) Front door side wind deflectors (always wanted these and finally getting them now!)
-OEM Left and Right side mirrors (heated, without auto-dimming, clear and not tinted blue)

Interior:
-OEM Audi Sport all season rubber floor mats

And now we play the waiting game...

Birdman12
07-29-2012, 11:55 AM
This repainting has started a wallet-crunching frenzy for parts that I have been putting off for a while. I might as well do it all now!

A couple more things to add; I'm getting on installing the S4 brakes soon. I'll be cleaning up and repainting everything to do with the uprights and S4 brakes this week in preparation for the install. The rotors and pads have tons of life on them still so I'll service and use them until the wear out.

So the last few things to get the brakes in:
- 2.8 (AWM) front axles --- Can someone take a look at this link and confirm they are the right ones? They are from a 2.8 quattro and under the compatibility it says AWM so I hope I got the right ones! Link: http://www.tgaparts.com/products/270-cv-driveshaft-front-left-mt.aspx
- Neuspeed stainless steel braided lines for front and back

ianwpb
07-29-2012, 12:05 PM
I wouldn't buy those axles. I've gone through 3 sets of aftermarket axles in the last year and a half. They usually have really bad vibrations, like mine do.

Better off buying the GKN ones from ECS or just rebuilding your stock axles.

Nollywood
07-29-2012, 12:09 PM
Glad to see the car's coming along great, and the doors and fenders have been removed prior to paint. [up]

ianwpb
07-29-2012, 12:22 PM
You need to find out what size inner joint diameter you have. Those should work fine with the S4 spindle, just make sure the inner joint size is 100mm, not 108.

Birdman12
07-29-2012, 04:36 PM
What suspension upgrades/modifications do you have ianwpb? Cheap axles are cheap axles but 3 sets in 1.5years? Do you think there might be something causing premature axle failure? As for the vibrations, have you made sure your wheels are balanced correctly? It just sounds pretty serious going through axles like that. I haven't had any problems with these axles and its a shame because I just replaced them last winter; they were already aftermarket when I bought the car :(

Thanks Nollywood!haha ya he's doing a good job. I'm curious to see how he installed the skirts. I asked for some pics so I'll put them up as I get them.

I picked up a FK style ABS plastic roof spoiler to finish off the exterior. The very last things to do will be to black out the stock headlights, convert all the bulbs to LED bulbs, and get 18's.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/5341hei_20.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/2221f2j_20.jpg

Birdman12
07-29-2012, 04:50 PM
I cross referenced the axles and they are the same as the S4 axles. I should be good to go...hopefully.

Can anybody tell me what rims these are:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/KGrHqRjQE-g18IfzBP5FZvQ67Q48_20.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/T2eC16JHJFoE9nh6m970BP5FZoYcZ48_20.jpg

I absolutely love the concave rims and big ass spokes! However, I would put meaty tires on the rims instead of the stretch.

ianwpb
07-29-2012, 08:06 PM
Bilstein/H&R sport is all. It's the inner cv joints. There's too much play an it causes vibrations. Tires are brand new. It's definitely the axles. Everything else that could cause vibrations has been replaced.

Birdman12
07-30-2012, 06:41 PM
Oh ok that's too bad man! Have you tried rebuilding the cv joints with higher quality joint kits?

I'm looking for someone who can make some custom high temp vinyls for some caliper decals? I did some ghetto paint editing and this is what I would like. Nice and big:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/20100520_0010.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/audicaliperlogoedit.jpg

howardfootball
07-30-2012, 07:10 PM
Contact a company like Prime Cuts or Empire GFX that does custom vinyl decals. They will probably be able to get what you want.

Birdman12
07-30-2012, 07:21 PM
Ruska just got back to me and he will be making some custom vinyls for me! I'll let you know how they turn out. Thanks for the info man.

ianwpb
07-30-2012, 09:36 PM
I can't find the Tripod inner joint to save my life, otherwise I'd just pick those up and rebuild my axles.

Birdman12
07-31-2012, 12:44 PM
I was working on the grille some more this morning and I wasn't happy with the look of the emblem alone attached to the mesh; it was missing something. So after a couple more hours of using the wonderful dremel I reduced it from this:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/bc4546c3.jpg

To this:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/3ecd2db6.jpg

I think the black outline will give it a cleaner finish and it will be a larger surface to glue to the mesh. And with the rings:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/e4239fe3.jpg

Unfortunately I will have to wait until I get the car back to check the clearances for when I mount the mesh. I'm having a hard time trying to find a way to attach the mesh to the grille surrounding. I was considering gluing in small lengths of wire all around and then use it to pull the mesh down with minimal mesh sticking out past the grille. Since it snaps into place I have to take that into consideration and therefore there is much less room to work with.

I got my wind deflectors in today! Very nice looking and feels indestructible! These are surprisingly low profile too, usually the ones I see stick out at least a couple inches.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/c9fb827f.jpg

1broknrado
07-31-2012, 01:37 PM
Having those on my truck was nice when it was raining to crack the window open...not sure if i would ever put them on anything else though

Birdman12
07-31-2012, 06:28 PM
I drive with my windows cracked all the time and this is more for functionality than looks, but scores a 10/10 for looks from me! Bonus :)

Got my window spoiler today and I took it out of the packaging for a second to inspect it and I'm not 100% sure I am going to install it just yet. I'll fit it when I get the car back and if I do like it then I'll paint and install it.

KaoticS4
08-01-2012, 08:53 AM
Why not give the window spoiler to the shop to paint? I doubt he'd charge you anything to go ahead and paint it along with the car, he will more then likely have a little paint mix left over.

Birdman12
08-01-2012, 08:58 AM
Got the floor mats in today. So sexy and so heavy duty!

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/9857ab9b.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/8a7d8f9b.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/ed05cd9c.jpg

Just need the car back now and let the fun begin!

Birdman12
08-01-2012, 09:14 AM
Why not give the window spoiler to the shop to paint? I doubt he'd charge you anything to go ahead and paint it along with the car, he will more then likely have a little paint mix left over.

I'm not sure I want the spoiler anymore to be honest. I will have to see how the wind deflectors look on the car and then go from there. I don't want my car to look cluttered if you know what I mean. Might be a bit much with the wind deflectors, the roof spoiler, and the M3 lip spoiler. I'll have to wait and see.

howardfootball
08-01-2012, 10:52 AM
Hmm I need to replace my floor mats. They're all kinds of beat up being 11 years old.

Birdman12
08-01-2012, 11:56 AM
I should have got these as soon as I bought the car years ago. They are nice and deep in order to keep the snow and stuff in the mat and not sloshing around or making your feet slippery.

Here's the link : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-OEM-1999-2001-A4-S4-Premium-All-Weather-Rubber-Floor-Mats-w-Sport-Logo-/170872221177?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item27c8c72df9#ht_500wt_969

Birdman12
08-02-2012, 08:14 AM
Got the surrounding for the rings finished up this morning. I siliconed them to the surrounding. Everything is done now...just need the car to install it on.

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/ff7e2fc3.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/c0da8c4c.jpg

Concker
08-02-2012, 11:48 AM
This looks rly good!
that bumper is not half bad rly! think it will look gr8 when all done ;)

Keep up the good work!

howardfootball
08-02-2012, 02:38 PM
Grill is looking good man. Excited to see the car finished.

Birdman12
08-02-2012, 08:40 PM
Thanks guys! I'm going to bring the grille and bumper grills with me to the body shop (hopefully go there tomorrow or Saturday) and get my bodyman to install them or give me some ideas how to.

I am happy with the OEM-like look and the black outline definitely adds a "finishing touch". This is after about 5 coats of clear, it should hold up to chips quite well:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/0ce67b44.jpg

On another note, I decided to take a break from doing Audi stuff and went over to my in-laws to try and get their cars out of the garage. It's a shame because all they do is sit and collect dust/mould (yes, unfortunately half of the garage floor is gravel, however the mould wipes right off with a microfibre towel and a dab of cleaner/conditioner) and no one drives them anymore! So the deal is that if I keep them up to snuff I can drive them as my own hehe. Here is the line-up (in kilometres :)):

1. 1987 Corvette 30th Anniversary Edition - 49,xxx km (mom's cruiser car)

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/4f5c318c-1.jpg

2. 1978 Buick Gran National - 52,xxxkm (mom's car). Yes, it may be auto but it can chirp every gear change and the turbo + V6 sounds so badass!

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/247958eb.jpg

And last, but definitely not the least....1969 Chevy Camaro Z28 - 82,xxxkm (dad's car - his first car that he bought off the Chev production line in 69' and still has it to this day!) I have yet to fire this beast up and take it for a rip. It hasn't been driven in 3-4 years at least. This thing is pure sex especially with the 302 V8, Muncie 4-speed manual transmission, and power disc brakes that came with the Z28 performance package.

She sleeps...

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/3012bee7.jpg

I'm hoping to get her out next weekend. I have to check all the fluids, seals and grease all the points. I'm am not familiar with muscle cars in a technical sense but I just love the simplicity and beauty of the old muscle. To make them run all you need is fuel, spark and air - that's it and that's all lol

Didn't make too much progress today because I spent half the day running around trying to chase an air compressor down to pump up the flat tires on the Vette. They hold air for a good few days and since it isn't driven very often a pump up now and then is good enough until I get the tires resealed. I need to get the Vette out before I can move the Camaro and then it should be smooth cruising from there.

howardfootball
08-02-2012, 09:15 PM
Jealous. I need to hurry up and get started on my Thunderbird. The Audi is eating all my money unfortunately.

Birdman12
08-02-2012, 09:28 PM
Jealous. I need to hurry up and get started on my Thunderbird. The Audi is eating all my money unfortunately.

lol I know how you feel! I laughed to myself about this but our Audi's are like the family guy tumors and remind us constantly that there is always something to do haha Now instead of "I'm a tumor" repace it with "I'm an Audi". If you say it to yourself you'll know what I mean :) http://youtu.be/VLpu_92ozf0

1broknrado
08-03-2012, 05:09 AM
Gotta go fire up that Camaro and let it run every now and then to keep the motor in good shape!

CCA4
08-03-2012, 06:04 AM
That 'vette is beautiful! My grandpa had an '87 as well (I think). I used to just sit in the garage and stare at it because I was too young to drive it lol. He sold it before I got a license :(

howardfootball
08-03-2012, 06:26 AM
That 'vette is beautiful! My grandpa had an '87 as well (I think). I used to just sit in the garage and stare at it because I was too young to drive it lol. He sold it before I got a license :(

My grandfather had a '67 Stingray that was black on black and it was a beautiful car. Unfortunately I never got to drive it because someone hit and run the car outside his office. Totaled the car.

CCA4
08-03-2012, 06:30 AM
My grandfather had a '67 Stingray that was black on black and it was a beautiful car. Unfortunately I never got to drive it because someone hit and run the car outside his office. Totaled the car.

Hearing shit like that makes me so mad. People have no fucking respect for other peoples property, especially something as special as a '67 Stingray. I wish it was still legal to shoot people for doing stupid shit like that. Getting insurance money for a car like that doesn't even come close to actually replacing it.

/rant
/threadjack

Birdman12
08-03-2012, 08:12 PM
No worries man. It's always a shame to see a car go when it has sentimental value.

Going to see the car tomorrow! Fu*kin pumped!! Going to install the grills and I brought the rear window spoiler to see if I want to put it on or not.

BlazinB5
08-03-2012, 08:18 PM
Thanks guys! I'm going to bring the grille and bumper grills with me to the body shop (hopefully go there tomorrow or Saturday) and get my bodyman to install them or give me some ideas how to.

I am happy with the OEM-like look and the black outline definitely adds a "finishing touch". This is after about 5 coats of clear, it should hold up to chips quite well:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/0ce67b44.jpg

On another note, I decided to take a break from doing Audi stuff and went over to my in-laws to try and get their cars out of the garage. It's a shame because all they do is sit and collect dust/mould (yes, unfortunately half of the garage floor is gravel, however the mould wipes right off with a microfibre towel and a dab of cleaner/conditioner) and no one drives them anymore! So the deal is that if I keep them up to snuff I can drive them as my own hehe. Here is the line-up (in kilometres :)):

1. 1987 Corvette 30th Anniversary Edition - 49,xxx km (mom's cruiser car)

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/4f5c318c-1.jpg

2. 1978 Buick Gran National - 52,xxxkm (mom's car). Yes, it may be auto but it can chirp every gear change and the turbo + V6 sounds so badass!

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/247958eb.jpg

And last, but definitely not the least....1969 Chevy Camaro Z28 - 82,xxxkm (dad's car - his first car that he bought off the Chev production line in 69' and still has it to this day!) I have yet to fire this beast up and take it for a rip. It hasn't been driven in 3-4 years at least. This thing is pure sex especially with the 302 V8, Muncie 4-speed manual transmission, and power disc brakes that came with the Z28 performance package.

She sleeps...

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/3012bee7.jpg

I'm hoping to get her out next weekend. I have to check all the fluids, seals and grease all the points. I'm am not familiar with muscle cars in a technical sense but I just love the simplicity and beauty of the old muscle. To make them run all you need is fuel, spark and air - that's it and that's all lol

Didn't make too much progress today because I spent half the day running around trying to chase an air compressor down to pump up the flat tires on the Vette. They hold air for a good few days and since it isn't driven very often a pump up now and then is good enough until I get the tires resealed. I need to get the Vette out before I can move the Camaro and then it should be smooth cruising from there.

none of these would happen to be for sale, would they? :)

defrag010
08-04-2012, 08:41 PM
Dude, the GN is sick!!! Those are hot right now and they are already valued at more than when they were new.

Birdman12
08-11-2012, 06:45 PM
BlazinB5 - I know the Camaro is not for sale but for the right price I'm sure the Gran National and Vette could be anyones [:D]

Sorry for the break but I was super busy with some work stuff and never got a chance to post the latest update. I picked the car up and let me tell you that I am more than happy with the outcome!

I never thought I would have such a light coloured car but it's really grown on me. Looks great at night and of course with the sun shining on it too. The front bumper turned out great and I got the grills all mounted up with ease. The skirts needed quite a bit of work to mount up but I'm glad I got them installed, it really gives the car a nice clean profile especially without the lower door mouldings. Enough talking, here are the goods (I need to pick up a nice camera now to get some sweet pics because my iPhone camera does not give it justice):

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/aa343951.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/62bb3717.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/c474adbb.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/58bda743.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/7cf52ee3.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/new%20paint/paint025.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/new%20paint/paint024.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/new%20paint/paint023-1.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/new%20paint/paint022-1.jpg

The black roof and mirrors are very subtle yet once you notice it's black it really gives the car a sport-luxury look:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/new%20paint/paint028.jpg

There is such a difference between my old windshield and this one, it's one thing I strongly recommend people do if they have a windshield that shows it's age!

So what do you guys think? I really love the colour. I just need to mount the mesh with the rings in the front grille and she will be complete!

TConklin821
08-11-2012, 07:00 PM
Dude that car looks absolutely badass. Seriously awesome, good job. Get wheels like mine and paint them a similar color =]

Very much concave and nice fat spokes
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n485/ConklinTerry101/399987_10150616385891660_673501659_11055329_456769 379_n.jpg

howardfootball
08-11-2012, 11:05 PM
You need wider wheels after looking the pic of the car from the back. I'm digging the color and the bumper actually looks pretty good. Now just gotta get that grill in place.

1broknrado
08-11-2012, 11:24 PM
Yea the bumper looks good but you gotta get wider wheels and get rid of black wheels. Go with a polished lip and silver faces and that color will POP. I really dig it though with a difference set of wheels. Im not a big fan of black wheels to begin though either.

nizmosx
08-13-2012, 08:49 AM
Im going to agree with everyone that the color is really nice but the wheels need to go. Get a different set and you got yourself a great looking car. the dark wheels are throwing it off.

Ultimately its your car so if youre digging the wheels. all good man... great work!

ps. can you post pics of your door sils and engine bay? i would like to see what it looks like in those hard to reach places. i have been debating a color change but i was always iffy about it.

1broknrado
08-13-2012, 11:02 AM
Im going to agree with everyone that the color is really nice but the wheels need to go. Get a different set and you got yourself a great looking car. the dark wheels are throwing it off.

Ultimately its your car so if youre digging the wheels. all good man... great work!

ps. can you post pics of your door sils and engine bay? i would like to see what it looks like in those hard to reach places. i have been debating a color change but i was always iffy about it.

The OP had it done properly. The doors were taken off and hung. The paint should be OEM looking inside there. The only thing i can think that would cause issue would be if the bolts were painted. Easy fix -> replace with brand new bolts and you wont have to wrory about cracking paint on the bolts and the hinges look like they were painted on the door when it was hung so all that should look great.

Birdman12
08-13-2012, 12:52 PM
Thanks alot guys! I'm really happy with it.

Yes, I also agree with everyone about the black rims. I'm going to go with 18" gunmetals and some nice big spokes - I really do like the RS6 wheels that Tconklin put up! I'm just finishing these wheels off this summer and get some for the spring.

Nizmosx - ill take some pics for you in a bit. The color change worked out great because the engine bay is dark but I don't know how well it would look going from a bright color (ex yellow or something) and changing to a dark.

Exactly, everything was taken apart and painted and then reassembled so everything looks OEM. Love it!

KaoticS4
08-13-2012, 05:28 PM
I think it looks great, and I actually like the black wheels with the dark tint, black mirrors and roof. The front bumper also looks really good with the rs4 mesh. Congrats.

Birdman12
08-13-2012, 06:51 PM
Thanks Kaotic!

The pics you requested nizmosx:

Front door
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/4459185D-9680-483A-9373-BFBB44F1CB5B-20764-00000B125F8AFA7C.jpg

Rear
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/1801E49F-266D-479E-8E0B-7C8E0E3405BA-20764-00000B12753E583A.jpg

Even got them to transfer the silver Audi trim onto the skirts
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/1674AB8A-83A6-4139-B3BE-A1B10190CAA5-20764-00000B12663A3A16.jpg

Engine bay, excuse the dirt but I will get around to a engine shampoo eventually
http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/DF232B49-0D37-401A-BACF-278D126E667D-20764-00000B127E6582EB.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/9FF223FC-7599-4688-A460-F4AF0177A6F0-20764-00000B128424F337.jpg

So I went to install the grille mesh....I found that I had to install the surrounding first and then simply ziptie the mesh in with some black zipties. The trouble started when I remembered the hood latch pops through one of the rings because I wanted to keep it flowing rather than cut into the mesh. However, I ended up cutting a couple links of the grill out only to realize it would do it no good. Thankfully I ordered a generous amount of the mesh so I considered this a test piece. I bent the hood latch straight down and trimmed the end off of it which gives me just enough room to slide my fingers under the hood to pop the latch from underneath and not have it pop through the grill. I'll have to wait until the weekend to go home and get some more but this is basically what it will look like and I will add the rings to finish it off of course:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/13240118-7D17-4969-8DFA-EB5CDAEE7D2A-20764-00000B12918EAB6D.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/9DEF8AE2-D51C-412A-861F-7BFA75C97C07-20764-00000B12970959B6.jpg

Poopie
08-13-2012, 07:14 PM
you totally redeemed yourself. at first when i saw your original kit i was like "this kid is doomed"
nice turn around.

1broknrado
08-14-2012, 05:11 AM
you totally redeemed yourself. at first when i saw your original kit i was like "this kid is doomed"
nice turn around.

[:D]

GeoergeA402
08-14-2012, 05:49 AM
Final outcome looks great!!

Color reminds me of my 92 Ford Probes SeaFoam Green!!

Nollywood
08-14-2012, 12:28 PM
Well done bud, your car's come out looking great. I would tentatively suggest lighter wheels, either flat-faced, or with spokes that dip inwards in the centres (concave). Your current set-up (convex) make the wheels look too small.

But overall, a job well done, I was a bit iffy about the bumper, but it's turned out good. [up]

Birdman12
08-17-2012, 01:10 AM
Lol thanks poopie! Thanks to you too geoerge.

That's what I'm thinking too Nollywood, a nice deep dish wheel that's either really concave or has some sweet big lips.

nizmosx
08-17-2012, 10:11 AM
Thank you for the pics of the door jams. Looks like they did a fantastic job. Great work and nice looking car.

the gunmetal wheels will set it off. if you need some photoshop help to figure out color or wheels pm me.

Birdman12
08-17-2012, 04:42 PM
Thanks man, I'll keep that in mind!

I got a few goodies today in the mail to tighten things up:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/80C11D75-2C6F-4E0D-A143-EA894419D3FD-25532-00000E85D32FD363.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/AEA66755-2288-4D31-8EC5-DB861F285C10-25532-00000E85E11B70AB.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/849309C1-E9DD-473D-978F-98E36EFF3AEA-25532-00000E85EA645CA0.jpg

Birdman12
09-01-2012, 01:26 PM
Picked these up this week...the wait till spring is gonna kill me but it will give me a have to find some 235/40/18 and get them re-finished with the current hyper silver they are:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/24CB7F29-C8C7-4433-B61F-E2584A5B6D85-40103-00001841F5FC0F1F.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/68310CA9-EE40-4BA4-8939-F28C84EA71A5-40103-00001841FDCDC3B3.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/46F1B676-21ED-4A05-84BF-529E96A8A738-40103-000018420DFEA95B.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/9F006DAF-B26D-4925-9DE0-E973EC8BFED3-40103-000018420828226A.jpg

BlazinB5
09-01-2012, 08:40 PM
holy shit that paint job looks awesome at night

howardfootball
09-01-2012, 09:03 PM
Those are some of my favorite wheels. This car has come a long way and came out looking really really good.

Birdman12
09-02-2012, 06:19 AM
Blazin, it really does look unreal at night! I just wish I had a camera that could take pics to show it. :(

Howard, after looking at TConklin's wheel restoration thread about a hundred times I just totally fell in love with these wheels and could be happier with the design, spokes, width, offset, concaveness, and of course them being Audi already :) I was thinking about the gunmetal but these are "Hyper Silver" which looks almost like a chrome-silverish color that I'm going to stick with. I will get them refinished over winter or do it myself, but it is going to look great IMO...come on spring time lol

Thanks for the kind words guys! I appreciate them and like to see that others appreciate what I do to my car :D

TConklin821
09-02-2012, 05:49 PM
Nice choice on the wheels man.

Nollywood
09-02-2012, 11:27 PM
This B5 has come a long way, and it can only get better. I like the direction this is heading in.

TConklin821
09-02-2012, 11:34 PM
I agree, it looks really nice dude. That color on the wheels will pop with the ext. paint nicely

Birdman12
09-03-2012, 10:23 AM
Many thanks! I think I'll take them to a shop to refinish them and not worry about it, plus they can definitely match the hyper silver better than I could!

I've collected quite a few parts that are just sitting in boxes that I have to make some time for. I promised myself that I couldn't get anything else until I atleast install all the parts that I have lol It flips back and forth between having the time but not the place or having the place but not the time!

I'm picking up a MIG welder this week and I'll start prating a bit on some scrap metal to get a feel for the welder and then I'll weld up the downpipe and finally complete my exhaust. At the same time I'll throw in my highflow stainless steel exhaust manifold (sprayed with high temp paint and heat wrapped) as well as my wideband afr gauge. I'll do my 2.0 coil pack conversion too next week. It should go quick since I have my buddy to help out!

hazard860
09-03-2012, 10:33 PM
everytime i see a biscus with great paint i die a little on the inside (i need a re-spray bu i'm pooooooooooooooooooooor)
Dude that car looks absolutely badass. Seriously awesome, good job. Get wheels like mine and paint them a similar color =]

Very much concave and nice fat spokes
http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n485/ConklinTerry101/399987_10150616385891660_673501659_11055329_456769 379_n.jpg

Birdman12
09-05-2012, 09:14 PM
My two loves:

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/WeatherTechsidewinddeflectors004.jpg

Picked up a few things this week :)

Mig welder:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/06/a2ynute3.jpg

I got a deal on 3 Greddy gauges. I only got the gauges without the wiring harnesses and sensors but I'm talking to Greddy to see what replacement parts I need to make these bad boys work!

I'm thinking I'll just use the boost gauge for now and save the other two for when I actually need to use them after some engine work. The gauge is also in Bar and not PSI but I think I'll manage.

Boost
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/06/2yhehude.jpg

Oil pressure
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/06/ja7e5egy.jpg

Exhaust gas temp
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/06/janavuze.jpg

BlazinB5
09-05-2012, 09:31 PM
need moar night shotsss

Birdman12
09-06-2012, 08:23 PM
Not very good, but as requested:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/07/8u9yhy8y.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/07/hedu9yna.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/07/usarazyq.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/07/yvaza2ez.jpg

I still have to get around to putting new mesh in the grille and put the rings back on....it never ends :)

CCA4
09-07-2012, 04:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyoHohhCIA

It's been said, but this turned out about 100 times better than I expected. Great success! [:D][up]

B5_t
09-07-2012, 07:23 AM
[QUOTE=CCA4;7954192]
It's been said, but this turned out about 100 times better than I expected. Great success!



Couldn't agree more and glad you decided to keep the hyper silver on the wheels think they will look amazing and way better then anything darker could have. the only thing i personally would have done was match the mirrors body colour but thats just IMO but other then that love the way it turned out and cant wait to see it with the new wheels on !

zamflip
09-07-2012, 07:42 AM
Really beautiful color... [up]

Birdman12
09-09-2012, 07:14 PM
Lol thanks CCA4! I'm really happy I thought twice about it and went with my current plans :)

Thanks B5-T! Ya I was a bit hesitant with the mirrors but they go great with the black tint and are finished off with the black roof.

Thank you zamflip, I love it too!

Did my 1.8 to 2.0 coilpack conversion today. Waiting for my Denso spark plugs to come in to gap the plugs to .040. The install was pretty straight forward but soldering and heat shrink tubing took a little while but well worth it.

Yesterday I swapped in my Koni coils in, replaced a rear caliper because the ebrake leaver was sticking, swapped in my stainless steel brake lines in the back and popped out the front grill to redo the mesh and put the rings back on. Didn't get around to doing the downpipe so maybe throughout the week.

Tomorrow I'll be installing the hitch. Sure some people are gonna hate on it but this is my DD and I will be using quite often moving stuff, bike rack, and maybe tow a motorcycle in the spring :) I looked at some cover cap things and it should be hidden fairly well.

Need to raise the front coils a tad because it's just a bit too low for the roads around here so I got the rake going on right now:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/10/yjezuqej.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/10/a5ezyde2.jpg

Artiemas
09-09-2012, 07:17 PM
Don't really understand the EGT Temp Gauge, but regardless, great car.

Birdman12
09-09-2012, 08:00 PM
It came with the other two. Prob won't use it to be honest. No point with already having a wideband

Birdman12
09-18-2012, 07:30 PM
Couple updates...

Finally washed, clay barred and waxed the car with a full Rain-X glass treatment! Rained the next day and the water just beaded off EVERYWHERE! Love it! [:D]

Picked up a New South Performance 30Psi boost gauge in a MK4 Golf steering column pod which is a really close fit but just won't fit. So I think I'll just get a dual gauge pod from a MK4 Jetta and mod it to a spare column trim piece I picked up from a part out. But for now I got a spare center vent piece and I'll do the ghetto dual gauge pod mod to mount the wideband and boost gauge in for now until I get the column pod done!

Drove an hour away to a part out that I picked up a few things from before and got the complete leather seats (front and rear plus rear side things) minus the arm rest for $50 [>_<][>_<] The seats are totally mint except the driver's seat ass pad has the famous split seam and a couple rough spots but other then that they are perfect!! I'm just going to look up how to get the bottom half of the seat re-upholstered and I'm good to go! Always wanted leathers hehe

1broknrado
09-19-2012, 10:15 AM
How does the car run with the 2.0t coilpack conversion? Much smoother now? Also where did you buy the parts from? I know they have a Kit to do it which replaces the whole harness but there is a cheaper way around that by soldering the wires such as you did.. correct?

Stranger
09-19-2012, 10:55 AM
Search for xwanyes icm delete thread. That's the one I used, cost about $130 with coils and mk4 harness from ecs. I didn't notice a difference really since mine icm and coils were in good shape, I just did it for peace of mind. Maintenance with those coils is way cheaper and your sure to kill the icm if you ditch the airbox.

Birdman12
09-19-2012, 05:02 PM
I totally agree, although my coils and ICM were fine I just wanted peace of mind. I got the whole conversion kit from another member's partout. As stranger said, just look up the ICM delete thread. Just make sure it's the right engine code because I followed along another ICM delete which wasn't for the AEB but close enough. If you k ow what your doing then I would say go ahead and solder it in with proper heat shink tubing and stuff but if your hesitant to cut into a wiring harness then I would recommend getting the adapters to simply plug and play. However you will still need to bypass the ICM itself which is very simple (4 wires to solder).

I did notice some improved throttle response to be honest and idle is nice and smooth as well. I got the Denso iridium spark plugs gapped at 0.040 which I think help complete the conversion. Make sure you get the adapter plates for the coils. You don't want an awkward gap between the coils and the valve cover. You can find everything you need from ECS or try to find a kit like I did from a partout. Hope this helps!

Birdman12
09-19-2012, 05:05 PM
Can anyone suggest what I might be able to do to fix this...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/20/yme6u5up.jpg

nynoah
09-19-2012, 05:08 PM
New seat covers from the dealer

Birdman12
09-19-2012, 05:49 PM
New seat covers from the dealer

Like covers covers or replacement material that covers the whole pad? I'm not sure what you mean.

Birdman12
01-20-2013, 09:24 PM
It's been a while since I've been on the forums. It's been busy...I moved, started my trades course and bought a motorcycle :D So I've taken some focus off my car for now and am enjoying it the way it is. The way I see it is that I will prob never build my b5 up to the 350+ awhp I dreamed of so I figured I might as well get a bike to get my speed fix :P. Later on I might just throw in a frankenturbo kit and call it a day, just enough to make the car zippy and fun to drive while still remaining reliable. But for now I want to focus on the bike.

So I finished up the grille a while ago but never put the pics up. It turned out great! I really like it and have gotten many compliments on it. The work paid off but I don't think I would go through the trouble again lol

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/EAA2DED0-3049-4FAF-B7E7-FF396497E8AD-15596-0000087DDEE3BF07.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/0A6468EF-F400-45DB-9C63-BEB833F7556A-15596-0000087DEF0E8569.jpg

Always wanted a 034 coil cover...since I did the 2.0 coil conversion I said it was time to finish it off

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/FA48FF32-8A64-4FCA-9F26-D161DFD59B7D-15596-0000087DC16307F3.jpg

I just finished up doing a double din conversion. I got the Pioneer App Radio 2 (7" touchscreen). The install of everything was a bit of a pain but eventually all came together. It will need some final tweaking but it will do for now. I bypassed the stock amps and wired the speakers directly to the deck; I must say the speakers have now come alive and pump real nice with an extra bump from the sub. The sound is clear and the bass is tight. Couldn't be happier! (Don't mind the messy sub wires, only temp until I mount the amp and cap under the rear deck and fibreglass a 10" into the space where the disc changer and jack is)

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/C00E271A-D32B-4978-97F7-3341BEDB3696-15596-0000087D7117B982.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/13B1B7E3-D665-4EBD-9EB1-161E9F3BD91F-15596-0000087D854B5C6E.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq259/philipg12/5C79E0D1-3D33-44D0-ADB6-844E96CCA656-15596-0000087D8F89E325.jpg

I also swapped the leather/vinyl interior in. It's comfy and looks real sharp. I ended up going to an upholstery shop and getting the bottom of the seat fixed. I forgot to take pics so when I get around to it I'll put some pics up. It feels like a whole new car now!

andyrew
01-20-2013, 11:17 PM
Deck looks nice!

If your getting a bike start small, Buy cheap, get 6 months out of it then go bigger. Trust me. If you buy in the winter you can resell for higher in the summer. Especially a ninja 250.

Birdman12
01-21-2013, 06:52 AM
Deck looks nice!

If your getting a bike start small, Buy cheap, get 6 months out of it then go bigger. Trust me. If you buy in the winter you can resell for higher in the summer. Especially a ninja 250.

Thanks man! I got a sweet deal on a 2002 Yamaha R1. I'm a big guy (6"6 and 235lbs) so a 250 and most 600s were out of the question. I rather start off on the R1 and as I get more comfortable I will use more power. First rule is to always respect the machine!!

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/21/a3ubu4ur.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/21/e4ana5et.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/21/3e2ebu6e.jpg.

I brought her inside to work on and keep warm during the long ass winter lol

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/21/eqenymu6.jpg

andyrew
01-21-2013, 07:22 AM
Very nice machine! if your a responsible rider then i guess its possible. Good luck man and always play it safe!

Nollywood
01-21-2013, 08:33 AM
The end results are cool. One thing though - the accent / swage line running through the front bumper. Was there any way to have lost it, by building it up with plastic filler, and blending it into the upper section?

Because as it currently is, that line ruins the profile, as it doesn't flow with the sides, or the rear bumper.

nynoah
01-21-2013, 09:33 AM
Is the R1 your first bike? If so, you are gonna kill yourself. I ride a sport bike, so I know what that bike is capable off. Weight of the person does not really matter with modern sport bikes, they ALL even the 600s have more HP than the GP level bikes of 15 years ago. An R1 is just crazy fast. Crazy fast in a straight line is ok. But beginners don't have the throttle control to keep an R1s ass from coming out in a corner. When the ass comes out in a corner, you either lowside if you are lucky or like most all new riders do, freak out and close the throttle which then sends you into a highside. Picture a catapult and your body is the projectile. This can even happen if you hit the vinyl lines in the middle of the road. I have seen it too many times.

If this is your first bike, lord help you.

I personally recommend getting an SV650 or an SV1000 if you feel you are too big (which you are not for a 650 vtwin) as your first bike and riding that for a year. Keep the R1 in a shed till after your first year of riding a lot on less powerful bike. The R1 never forgives a mistake.

dowsett6
01-21-2013, 12:17 PM
Nice build, Is that welder from princess auto? the one that does FLUX, and MIG?? If so let me know how it is, I was looking at it, but the amp rating only seemed like it was going to be good for 1.8th steel.

ps. Where abouts in ontario are you?

andyrew
01-21-2013, 02:32 PM
Is the R1 your first bike? If so, you are gonna kill yourself. I ride a sport bike, so I know what that bike is capable off. Weight of the person does not really matter with modern sport bikes, they ALL even the 600s have more HP than the GP level bikes of 15 years ago. An R1 is just crazy fast. Crazy fast in a straight line is ok. But beginners don't have the throttle control to keep an R1s ass from coming out in a corner. When the ass comes out in a corner, you either lowside if you are lucky or like most all new riders do, freak out and close the throttle which then sends you into a highside. Picture a catapult and your body is the projectile. This can even happen if you hit the vinyl lines in the middle of the road. I have seen it too many times.

If this is your first bike, lord help you.

I personally recommend getting an SV650 or an SV1000 if you feel you are too big (which you are not for a 650 vtwin) as your first bike and riding that for a year. Keep the R1 in a shed till after your first year of riding a lot on less powerful bike. The R1 never forgives a mistake.

I didnt want to be the dick, but ya I agree with Nynoah 100%...

Have you ridden smaller bikes? Hell Im 6' and 220lbs Granted your 6" taller than me, but I had no sense of a 250 being to "small", There are plenty of BIG guys that ride a 250. I put 4 years of daily riding behind me on a modified 250 and loved every moment of it. I even sold it to a friend who proceeded to crash it on a cold night, but Im glad he started there and not on a bigger bike.


I agree a 2 cylinder bike is the only way to start...

Artiemas
01-21-2013, 03:47 PM
I didnt want to be the dick, but ya I agree with Nynoah 100%...

Have you ridden smaller bikes? Hell Im 6' and 220lbs Granted your 6" taller than me, but I had no sense of a 250 being to "small", There are plenty of BIG guys that ride a 250. I put 4 years of daily riding behind me on a modified 250 and loved every moment of it. I even sold it to a friend who proceeded to crash it on a cold night, but Im glad he started there and not on a bigger bike.


I agree a 2 cylinder bike is the only way to start...


R1s are pretty much the bike people buy when they feel comfortable enough to actually have the word speed underneath them, not a little 250 bike. After a few years of experience, you move up. You don't start off with a beast. My first bike was an '81 Xs400, and I nearly killed myself the first time I rode it because I didn't know the definition of throttle control - and I rode dirt bikes up until I bought a bike, really.

Granted, street bikes are the equivalent of working on diesel engines, then working on a regular gasoline (In terms of difference). It's a whole different world. They're light, agile, and if you bought that from a dealer, I hope the guy who sold you it dies a miserable death - because he pretty much almost sent you to your grave.

andyrew
01-21-2013, 04:04 PM
^ First off My friend has an 83 Xs400, the 250 and the 400 are almost the exact same regarding power. We've gotten on it on back country roads and they were neck and neck until about 105 where my no fairings caused me to fall behind.

Artiemas
01-21-2013, 04:50 PM
^ First off My friend has an 83 Xs400, the 250 and the 400 are almost the exact same regarding power. We've gotten on it on back country roads and they were neck and neck until about 105 where my no fairings caused me to fall behind.

I was just saying I was a newbie with a lower end bike..Not that the Xs400 is some monster.

How on earth did you get an Xs400 up to 105 without vibrating your ass off? At 65mph, I can barely stand the vibrations.

DND
01-21-2013, 05:28 PM
The R1 is a nice bike.
If you are careful, and not throttle happy, and learn what you are doing while working your way up slowly you will be fine.
I recommend that you read Keith Code's book "A Twist of the Wrist 2" and watch the DVD also before you go riding on a modern sport bike.
Understand the machine's physics and your personal limits and fear threshold, respect those and you will be fine.
And by all means take a class, even "experts" can learn a few things.

nynoah
01-21-2013, 05:51 PM
I wish Yamaha would bring out an R4. I love my old FZR400. An R1 for a newbie is truly a ticket to the hospital. I wish that the US and Canada had graduated licenses like Europe. It would keep the insurance down for the rest of us.

I also suggest that you do what DND said. Read those books. If you don't know what the term counter steering means, or the concept of where to apply throttle in a turn, DON'T ride an R1 before you do.

If you heed our warning, and want a different bike. I stand by my recommendation of an SV650 there is plenty of power to get your high from. The way the power comes on is managable for beginners and experts love them too. I would recommend an FZR400 but they are kinda old and getting to be few and far between. Original stockish ones are collector bikes now.

andyrew
01-21-2013, 06:58 PM
I was just saying I was a newbie with a lower end bike..Not that the Xs400 is some monster.

How on earth did you get an Xs400 up to 105 without vibrating your ass off? At 65mph, I can barely stand the vibrations.

Never rode the bike myself, and never heard any complaints from my friend. We used to go cruising all the time and he loved his bike. I understand what you were saying about the xs400 now, sorry about the defensive post.


DND has some great points, I've been meaning to read that book myself. I watched the DVD and tried to take some of the concepts to heart. I'd love to hit one of the high speed driving schools down in LA. As knowing it in your head is one thing, but actually experiencing it is an entirely different thing.

Im really happy honda came out with their new 500cc bikes. I think those will be the realistic choice for the new responsible rider that wants something they will keep for 2 years. Heck even Kawasaki's new 300 is an awesome looking bike that would just be an awesome town bike or womens bike, especially with ABS as an option.

Artiemas
01-21-2013, 07:22 PM
Never rode the bike myself, and never heard any complaints from my friend. We used to go cruising all the time and he loved his bike. I understand what you were saying about the xs400 now, sorry about the defensive post.


DND has some great points, I've been meaning to read that book myself. I watched the DVD and tried to take some of the concepts to heart. I'd love to hit one of the high speed driving schools down in LA. As knowing it in your head is one thing, but actually experiencing it is an entirely different thing.

Im really happy honda came out with their new 500cc bikes. I think those will be the realistic choice for the new responsible rider that wants something they will keep for 2 years. Heck even Kawasaki's new 300 is an awesome looking bike that would just be an awesome town bike or womens bike, especially with ABS as an option.

They have a stupid engine design that creates serious vibrations. Don't get me wrong, I loved the bike - but that was the only down side.

The pistons operated together, up and down, instead of alternating. People fixed this with "rephasing" the crankshaft, allowing the pistons to operate independantly. It fixed pretty much all vibration issues. It also didn't help that not alot of rubber was used when it came to mounting the engine to the frame.

Also, DND is right.

Take classes and see DVDs. I thought I was decent riding with my permit (No Motorcyle Endorsement) and then I had to take the classes and everything for my endorsement. Real eye opener, teaches you some serious skills and the dangers of the road.

jwhit
01-22-2013, 10:38 AM
How much total did the paint cost? Sorry it's an old subject but I didn't see anyone else ask!

Birdman12
02-11-2013, 02:21 PM
Very nice machine! if your a responsible rider then i guess its possible. Good luck man and always play it safe!

Thank you, I definitely plan to!


The end results are cool. One thing though - the accent / swage line running through the front bumper. Was there any way to have lost it, by building it up with plastic filler, and blending it into the upper section?

Because as it currently is, that line ruins the profile, as it doesn't flow with the sides, or the rear bumper.

Thanks man. Ya I know what you mean, you could take filler to try and blend it in with the top of the bumper lip and it would just stick out a bit further. Might look something like the B5 A6 front bumpers with the longer, sagging look. But I'm sure it can be done, or atleast figure out a way to mount the lip flush with the bumper and fibreglass over it with some kind of support in the back opposed to gluing it on over the bumper like it is in my case.

For sure, I might change up bumpers in the spring or get this one re sprayed because Canada's roads and weather beat the shit out of it since the summer lol I'm thinking S4 but cut out the center grills and stick the Regula mesh in.


Is the R1 your first bike? If so, you are gonna kill yourself. I ride a sport bike, so I know what that bike is capable off. Weight of the person does not really matter with modern sport bikes, they ALL even the 600s have more HP than the GP level bikes of 15 years ago. An R1 is just crazy fast. Crazy fast in a straight line is ok. But beginners don't have the throttle control to keep an R1s ass from coming out in a corner. When the ass comes out in a corner, you either lowside if you are lucky or like most all new riders do, freak out and close the throttle which then sends you into a highside. Picture a catapult and your body is the projectile. This can even happen if you hit the vinyl lines in the middle of the road. I have seen it too many times.

If this is your first bike, lord help you.

I personally recommend getting an SV650 or an SV1000 if you feel you are too big (which you are not for a 650 vtwin) as your first bike and riding that for a year. Keep the R1 in a shed till after your first year of riding a lot on less powerful bike. The R1 never forgives a mistake.

Yes, first bike. It's the same thing everyone tells me lol I have a few good friends that also just got bikes and we are all gonna learn together so we will start off real slow and go from there. We will always have another friend around who is a very experienced rider to help us out and keep an eye on things. We all understand these aren't "toys", they are motorcycles and you can still have fun but they must always be respected! I want to enjoy riding the bike, I'm not looking to set world records I just want to go for a cruise on the back country roads :)


Nice build, Is that welder from princess auto? the one that does FLUX, and MIG?? If so let me know how it is, I was looking at it, but the amp rating only seemed like it was going to be good for 1.8th steel.

ps. Where abouts in ontario are you?

No, it's not PowerFist. It's Chicago Electric and she's 90AMP. It was more than enough for what I used it for; welding my exhaust and welding a v-band onto the back of my OEM turbo.

I'm in Borden, like right outside of Barrie south towards tdot.


I didnt want to be the dick, but ya I agree with Nynoah 100%...

Have you ridden smaller bikes? Hell Im 6' and 220lbs Granted your 6" taller than me, but I had no sense of a 250 being to "small", There are plenty of BIG guys that ride a 250. I put 4 years of daily riding behind me on a modified 250 and loved every moment of it. I even sold it to a friend who proceeded to crash it on a cold night, but Im glad he started there and not on a bigger bike.


I agree a 2 cylinder bike is the only way to start...

Oh no worries man no offence taken, I understand where you guys are coming from!

Yes, I rode a bunch of my friend's bikes; an R1 & R6, GSX-R 750, and a ZX-10R. I must say the ZX-10R was a work of art but I fell in love with the R1, his was a 2003 R1 so the exact same as mine!

I think that if you don't know your limits, or even yet the bikes limits, your going to crash no matter what your riding. Sure you'll probably crash sooner on a more powerful bike but if your going down, your going down lol


R1s are pretty much the bike people buy when they feel comfortable enough to actually have the word speed underneath them, not a little 250 bike. After a few years of experience, you move up. You don't start off with a beast. My first bike was an '81 Xs400, and I nearly killed myself the first time I rode it because I didn't know the definition of throttle control - and I rode dirt bikes up until I bought a bike, really.

Granted, street bikes are the equivalent of working on diesel engines, then working on a regular gasoline (In terms of difference). It's a whole different world. They're light, agile, and if you bought that from a dealer, I hope the guy who sold you it dies a miserable death - because he pretty much almost sent you to your grave.

I've done tons of powersports where throttle control was the only thing keeping you safe and I can honestly say I know I have good throttle control. Ya for sure a street bike is going to be a new can of worms but I think I will handle myself well. I'm not trying to sound cocky, I just know my limits and am confident in what I know and what I don't I make sure I am comfortable with before adding it to my bag of tricks lol

Nah, it was a private sale and the guy I bought it from was a little guy who couldn't even touch the ground with both feet at the same time while sitting on the bike. Needless to say it was his first bike as well and he's still walking :)


The R1 is a nice bike.
If you are careful, and not throttle happy, and learn what you are doing while working your way up slowly you will be fine.
I recommend that you read Keith Code's book "A Twist of the Wrist 2" and watch the DVD also before you go riding on a modern sport bike.
Understand the machine's physics and your personal limits and fear threshold, respect those and you will be fine.
And by all means take a class, even "experts" can learn a few things.

Thanks bro, I think we are on the same page about it! I actually downloaded the DVD but haven't watched it yet! Thanks for the reminder to watch that lol I plan to do a basic riding course and then when I'm ready I want to take a few track courses on a raceway to get the full experience of riding a motorcycle.


I wish Yamaha would bring out an R4. I love my old FZR400. An R1 for a newbie is truly a ticket to the hospital. I wish that the US and Canada had graduated licenses like Europe. It would keep the insurance down for the rest of us.

I also suggest that you do what DND said. Read those books. If you don't know what the term counter steering means, or the concept of where to apply throttle in a turn, DON'T ride an R1 before you do.

If you heed our warning, and want a different bike. I stand by my recommendation of an SV650 there is plenty of power to get your high from. The way the power comes on is managable for beginners and experts love them too. I would recommend an FZR400 but they are kinda old and getting to be few and far between. Original stockish ones are collector bikes now.

I used to do alot of biking; downhill, urban, bmx, trail riding and some northshore so I'm comfortable on 2 wheels and most definitely know what counter-steering is and how it works because you cannot beat the laws of physics lol

I'm gonna stick it out with the R1 and if anything, swap out for something else for next year.


They have a stupid engine design that creates serious vibrations. Don't get me wrong, I loved the bike - but that was the only down side.

The pistons operated together, up and down, instead of alternating. People fixed this with "rephasing" the crankshaft, allowing the pistons to operate independantly. It fixed pretty much all vibration issues. It also didn't help that not alot of rubber was used when it came to mounting the engine to the frame.

Also, DND is right.

Take classes and see DVDs. I thought I was decent riding with my permit (No Motorcyle Endorsement) and then I had to take the classes and everything for my endorsement. Real eye opener, teaches you some serious skills and the dangers of the road.

Good to know! I plan to.


How much total did the paint cost? Sorry it's an old subject but I didn't see anyone else ask!

PM sent.

dowsett6
02-11-2013, 05:36 PM
No, it's not PowerFist. It's Chicago Electric and she's 90AMP. It was more than enough for what I used it for; welding my exhaust and welding a v-band onto the back of my OEM turbo.

I'm in Borden, like right outside of Barrie south towards tdot.


I know some guys up there, and have been to some of the Northern Euro meets

Believer
02-11-2013, 07:10 PM
I love that paint. The first pictures seem to have done it the most justice.

I'm really interested in the picture of the repair job on your seat. Someone mentioned a a new seat cover from the dealer - what's the cost on that item?

burgurboy
02-11-2013, 07:58 PM
as other's have said... go easy on that R1. Like, "buy a 250 and let the r1 sit for a while, then sell the 250 for what you paid and move on to the r1" easy.


Anyways, on to the fun stuff...

Got any pics of your finished seat? I've been searching high and low for the correct color match for Onyx black. Mine has the same tear and it's driving me nuts. My normal interior guy claims that it's impossible to match it... but, I think not.


Thanks! the car looks great!

Birdman12
02-11-2013, 08:21 PM
as other's have said... go easy on that R1. Like, "buy a 250 and let the r1 sit for a while, then sell the 250 for what you paid and move on to the r1" easy.


Anyways, on to the fun stuff...

Got any pics of your finished seat? I've been searching high and low for the correct color match for Onyx black. Mine has the same tear and it's driving me nuts. My normal interior guy claims that it's impossible to match it... but, I think not.


Thanks! the car looks great!

I'll take it easy...but not 250 easy hahah :P

Yea I'll get some pics up tomorrow. Since it was vinyl it was alittle harder to match with texture and colour fade but the shop matched it up pretty darn close and then used some of the perforated material that wraps under the seat from the middle to fix the torn part. Might not make sense now, but it will as soon as I get the pics up. It's a close enough match that you can't tell the difference unless you look for it.

Birdman12
02-11-2013, 08:24 PM
I love that paint. The first pictures seem to have done it the most justice.

I'm really interested in the picture of the repair job on your seat. Someone mentioned a a new seat cover from the dealer - what's the cost on that item?

Thanks man!! I'll get some pics up tomorrow when there is light. I totally forgot to! I took it to a car upholstery shop and got it all fixed up for $160 all said and done for supplies and labour! I don't think dealers sell just the seat covers, it would be too easy for us to get the covers and fix our seats lol the dealers need us to buy new seats of course hehe

Birdman12
02-12-2013, 08:50 PM
As requested, pics of the seat. Ya my floor is dirty, its winter so what :P

As you can see it turned out great, its a really good match. The only difference is that it's a bit shinier than OEM but in time it will dull a bit and match up real nice. The added seam is in a weird spot but they saved as much of the middle as possible because the rip was pretty big and there was only so much extra perforated fabric they could use. They couldnt get a good match to the perf so came up with using the existing material. Then they just added a solid vinyl piece on the front and sewed it back up. Not too shabby eh?

Before:

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After:

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coolgraymemo
02-12-2013, 09:55 PM
Every time I see your screenname, I think of this gif --

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1152463_o.gif

burgurboy
02-13-2013, 06:30 AM
Crap man. That turned our really good. Wish I had an interior guy like that near me!

Birdman12
02-13-2013, 08:30 AM
Every time I see your screenname, I think of this gif --

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1152463_o.gif

Lol it's working out just like I planned.

Birdman12
02-13-2013, 08:31 AM
Crap man. That turned our really good. Wish I had an interior guy like that near me!

Thanks man. I was a bit skeptical at first when I dropped the seat off to them but when I picked it up I was very impressed!

Birdman12
10-02-2013, 09:53 AM
Random update since I have some free time...

So since I last posted I did a few things:

1) Got my wheels on and went with Continental DWS Extreme tires 235/40/18 all around with 15mm spacers in the rear. Had to raise the car a bit to get rid of some front fender rubbing. But they look really nice and keep the car looking cleeeeeeeean.

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2) Finally did the S4 front brake conversion with Neuspeed stainless steel braided lines. Painted the calipers and put a custom made sticker on (Thanks to Ruska). Looks awesome and work even better! Shitty and dirty pic but you get the idea.

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3) Lastly, I got bored of the front bumper and tired of worrying about the fiberglass lip and was in the search for something polyurethane. I found someone local selling an Uberhaus RSR front bumper and I jumped all over it! Of course I put the Regula Tuning mesh in and it looks just perfect! I will be looking around for some foglights to finish off the look. I'm moving across the country to BC so I'll make the drive out there and then get it sprayed. Fitment is good but will need some minor tweaking. Overall, this was the last thing I wanted to change for appearance and after I get it sprayed and foglights I'm done!

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I also swapped out the old K03 with a fresh one as well as installed my Samco TIP that I had lying around.

That's all for now folks!