View Full Version : T belt this can NOT be good!!!?

05-13-2012, 03:34 PM
thanks for looking guys, Just got this tbelt put in by a shop less than 3000 miles on it!

went to just take a look at it today and this what I found? [=(][headbang]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/165981_171538979642009_100003577245664_240422_1577 156640_n.jpg

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/75255_171538269642080_100003577245664_240421_73711 2420_n.jpg

all new belts, water pump

05-13-2012, 03:50 PM
Is that the kevlar belt from RAI? If I recall correctly, they are not as wide as the regular belt but I could be wrong on that.

05-13-2012, 03:58 PM
That looks like a Gates belt.

RAI never had issues with theirs (Made by Gates)

The 034 Kevlar belts are the ones recalled

OP- take that back to the shop that did the work, something is wrong and its tearing up the belt.

05-13-2012, 04:09 PM
OP- take that back to the shop that did the work, something is wrong and its tearing up the belt.

Yep, they need to fix that shit.

05-13-2012, 04:33 PM
Mark, take that to the guy that did the job. That should not look like that. Good thing you caught that now.

05-13-2012, 05:39 PM
my guess, they didnt change one of the rollers and it seized.

05-13-2012, 05:49 PM
my guess is they forgot the small little roller

05-13-2012, 05:50 PM
it is a gates belt but not from 034

the guy just came out and looked at it said he would fix it and would have to open it up to get a better look anyways. so if I had the gates belt should I just get a normal one??

this is what I got.

just looked at it all new rollers

who sells just belts ?

05-13-2012, 06:01 PM
should I get this


thanks guys this sucks car is down till next week end .. no fun!

05-13-2012, 06:38 PM
I think I know what happened. This is my official walky-guess:

The OP purchased a kit for the "late" AWM (after VIN #8D-1-042 385), but engine is actually an "early" AWM. This is not a huge problem, one could certainly upgrade to the newer system if one wanted to do so. The problem is the lack of the late-AWM-specific "fitted bolt" in order to facilitate this upgrade (never included in the kits). This bolt is used to fasten the tensioner roller to the cylinder head and offers ~8mm of positive offset from the cylinder head. If something was substituted to bolt up the tensioner roller that did not provide this offset, it would force the belt to ride very close to the head - probably causing the belt to bind on the inner lip of the water pump or other obstructions. This would eventually tear and fray the belt.

Anyway, I'm sure the cause will be clear once it's torn apart, but that's my guess: something to with the tensioner roller being incorrect or installed incorrectly. I would hold off on buying parts until you know what the problem is. In reality, you shouldn't have to buy anything. Either the parts are faulty (and FCP should send you replacements) or the install was faulty and the shop should cover it.

05-13-2012, 07:52 PM
the car is a 2001.5 I checked into it, it is a (late) AWM

05-13-2012, 09:17 PM
Gotcha. So it could be that something was changed during a previous t-belt job (ie: an entire early AWM kit was put in) or the kit that was just installed had some incorrect parts. For example, if an AEB tensioner roller was included in error, you may run into the same type of belt offset issues.

Anyway, that's just my guess - some type of issue with the tensioner roller offset. Could be something else.

05-14-2012, 08:00 AM
I found out what happened, the kit I ordered is for a 2001 and I have a 2001.5 so the tensioner and roller are different by a little. [headbang] FML
so do you guys think the guy who put it in should have known that ? so now I will need a new tensioner, roller and belt..

murdered APR a4
05-14-2012, 12:48 PM
The tech who put it in should have known that because he would have been able to see the difference between the old one and new one.

05-14-2012, 01:00 PM
Damn Walky, looks like your guess was spot on. lol

05-14-2012, 01:08 PM
^haha. That's how I do. [;)]

05-14-2012, 01:09 PM
the tech will be fixing this weekend already talked to him. I called the guys at RAI Motorsports (gave them part #s and everything)( thanks for your time guys) and they said that tensioner should still work on my car it just needs to be adjusted right.

05-14-2012, 01:16 PM
AFAIK, there is no adjustment for the offset (other than providing your own washers maybe). There is an eccentric adjustment for setting the hydraulic tension system correctly, but nothing else that I am aware of. In any case, It should have been very obvious that the belt was not riding correctly upon install. You rotate the engine a couple times to check the timing. Especially in the case of using aftermarket performance bits (ie: blue timing belt, etc), one would want to double check that everything lines up correctly as well. I hope they get it figured out for you. Good Luck.

05-14-2012, 01:20 PM
thanks man, this sucks I hope it all works out! car only has 80k and not trying to rebuild the top end just yet lol