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foofighter
05-10-2005, 11:10 AM
I just priced out a FWD 6spd A3 2.0T/sport package/xenon/convienence/navigation

for a grand total of $30,385

I just don't understand how I myself could justify spending that loot on an A3 when you can step up an A4

Just discouraging that's all

SE05
05-10-2005, 12:08 PM
If you have seen the window sticker on 06 A4 1.8t Avant, you will.... manual, Preium package, lighting package, somthing elese for $750.00 the total of that car comes out $37,xxx.00. WT.....[eek]

foofighter
05-10-2005, 12:23 PM
this is said...they are pricing these cars out of a lot of people's budgets...[:(]

DoThisMyWay
05-10-2005, 01:47 PM
nah, I don't think so... The true Audi enthusiast will pay any price for what they think is worth it. Plus, the MkV GTI and Golfs will be out soon to suit others budgets.

SE05
05-10-2005, 05:25 PM
I agreed with you, got my second Audi 5 months ago,

but, with the shxtty service from dealerS......

So how many people willing to shove out 30g plus, and when they go back to dealership for service or warranty repair they will be treating like u r driving a chevy or Kia?

DoThisMyWay
05-10-2005, 06:11 PM
I will!! [:D]

My local vdub/audi dealer’s service is pretty good. No complaints yet!

gohan
05-10-2005, 06:43 PM
and to think the A3 is suppose to attract younger buyers, and eventually purchase higer model audis while moving up the corporate latter. I guess they wont be moving anywhere after they shell out 30k for their first car.

good job audi![down]

boooger
05-10-2005, 06:50 PM
i agree, 30k is outrageous. Thats why i just bought a used s4 instead.

foofighter
05-10-2005, 09:33 PM
well i agree that a diehard audi loyalist will shell out what they think it's worth to get an audi. But how many Audi loyalist are there? Not a lot, what Audi is trying to do is attract what gohan said "young buyers" but i'd be dammed if there's a lot of young buyers out there that would shell out that kind of money to get into an audi. think about it logically, you can get yourself into a 323 or something lame like that for around that same price and have the "BMW" moniqer or Mercedes...those names a lot of curb appeal.

I know that cost of production and the current economic/exchange rate dont favor these german cars, but dam bro 30k for a fwd audi that's an entry level! someone missed the price point when they went to set this up.

and 37k fully loaded for a b7 A4!!! Are you seriously kidding me?!?! The mid size sport luxury car market is getting tighter and tighter with more and more competition that offers a lot of bang for the buck for 37k.

Please dont take this wrong, i'm a loyal VAG lover but i really think if they are trying to attract new buyers into their family they really do have to look long and hard at their position in the marketplace.

DRA4
05-10-2005, 09:44 PM
I guess we have preowned cars to buy, much better bang for the buck than new.

foofighter
05-10-2005, 09:58 PM
for sure...that initial hit is hefty

SE05
05-10-2005, 10:05 PM
I know this is a lil off topic, but the new B6 Passat looks pretty nice (esp. the wagon) when price of Audis are creeping up...Only if they come up some kind of "real" sports package and much needed better dealership service.....[wrench]

SE05
05-10-2005, 10:07 PM
Foo, i know u have/had? a black A4 avant, what happen to it? I got mine blk on blk just like urs

foofighter
05-10-2005, 10:11 PM
we parted it out and got rid of it. the project was done as far as we wanted to take it and it was time to move on. It's crazy i know but we go through cars rather quickly in the foo household

Anthony
05-11-2005, 01:01 AM
Not going to argue they're pricey, and perhaps even too much so but yeah if you look at a comparably equipped A4 it's about $4-5K more and an Avant (which comes in quattro only) is $6-7K more.

Have photos emerged of the new Passat wagon? I have yet to see it but am dying to!

phatAvant
05-11-2005, 01:45 AM
Originally posted by foofighter
we go through cars rather quickly in the foo household

Amen to that, gives us new stuff to look at...[:D]

steve

Cassmoney
05-11-2005, 06:30 AM
I remember when rumors about the A3 arose and they were estimating the starting price to be around 26G's. I wonder what ever happened to that.....

DoThisMyWay
05-11-2005, 08:25 AM
It does start at 26k with DSG, 24k without. It's when you start adding more options the price goes up to 30k+.

evilkoala
05-11-2005, 08:27 AM
starting price is around 26G... it's something like 25,500 or something similar to that.

audi is trying to attract new buyers but they don't want to do what jag did.. cheapen the brand by offering a really sh**ty low priced model. who here would really buy an x-type (well, they ARE better now...)

foofighter
05-11-2005, 08:58 AM
the x-type they whored out like a cheap hooker. that and ford was able to soak up any potential losses associated w/ that maneuver.

what may end up happening is they'll attract potential buyers into the showroom and then when they add up the price w/ option they'll look at the volkswagen parked across the showroom (as most dealerships are vw/audi for the time being) and say..."i can get this w/ same equipment for less or for the same price i get more..."

SE05
05-11-2005, 01:18 PM
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1976742

try this site for the B6 Passat "unofficial" photos

foofighter
05-11-2005, 01:22 PM
for the lazy

http://home.wanadoo.nl/noronha/cars/images/b6v-r.jpg
http://home.wanadoo.nl/noronha/cars/images/b6v-fr.jpg

i really like that...

04dolphin
05-11-2005, 06:24 PM
A3s are priced where the A4s were priced just couple of years ago... personally I think it's alittle overpriced...I would rather just spend alil more and buy the A4....
Granted the A3 looks nice...but just seems like it will get the same reputation as the c230 "coupe."

Anthony
05-11-2005, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by foofighter
for the lazy

http://home.wanadoo.nl/noronha/cars/images/b6v-r.jpg
http://home.wanadoo.nl/noronha/cars/images/b6v-fr.jpg

i really like that... Thanks Foo. I really am digging those artists renderings, the lines at the rear pillars are gorgeous, I hope the actual car looks like this and it's available with the 3.6 DSG as I'd quickly pick one up. May have to put the V50 plans on hold for awhile and wait and see what VW does...

Although I'm 95% sure we're still getting the A3 as well.

foofighter
05-11-2005, 08:39 PM
some guy that works for VW said that the passat pictured is what was shown to them in training...take that with a grain of salt

Saturnine
05-12-2005, 09:56 AM
That Passat looks yummy

foofighter
05-12-2005, 01:21 PM
i concur if it's anywhere near this rendition i'm sold...and the funny thing is...i have a feeling it'll be around where the A3 Sportback will be LOADED.

chuckdawg82
05-12-2005, 02:08 PM
well mang....its just bad economics right now with the US dollar being so darn week and the dealerships continually wanting to turn a larger and larger profit per car, the customer really has no strength to haggle for better prices. I actually did a 3.2 Quattro DSG, with everything but nav, and it turned out to be $34000+ (i know there isnt a quattro DSG yet, but I used the A4 price difference and worked off of that). So I mean all in all, the A3 price now is the price of an A4 2-3 years ago. I was out the door for $34000 with everything but sport and nav in 2003. So lame that the A3 would hit this price.

J-roc
05-16-2005, 03:54 PM
Yeah it's pricey, but I think it is worth it because right now there are WAY more A4s driving around.

angryswede
05-16-2005, 10:54 PM
they're all so pricey in part because the dollar is crap, remember. for 30k, they're only getting what they would have from like 22k 2.5 years ago [:(]
i'm feeling this pretty hard on the budgets given to my clients with european based head offices

Anthony
05-16-2005, 11:27 PM
We got ours for under $30K. [:D]

tYcOoN
05-18-2005, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by foofighter
I just priced out a FWD 6spd A3 2.0T/sport package/xenon/convienence/navigation

for a grand total of $30,385

I just don't understand how I myself could justify spending that loot on an A3 when you can step up an A4

Just discouraging that's all

Thats pretty funny cause you don't get it that cheap over here.
$30,385 = 23,373 Euro
You don't even get a used one for that price in europe.
I would buy it for that price. That is so ****ing cheap.
I don't understand why you guys get our cars so damn cheap[mad]
That sucks.

ADOBO
06-02-2005, 03:59 PM
saw one for 32K with dealer mark up, guess im not buying one

94jedi
06-02-2005, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by ADOBO
saw one for 32K with dealer mark up, guess im not buying one

OMG! where the hell have you been bro?!!

get your arse back to the GCC forum and start posting pics of hot chicks like you used to![:D]

ADOBO
06-02-2005, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by 94jedi
OMG! where the hell have you been bro?!!

get your arse back to the GCC forum and start posting pics of hot chicks like you used to![:D]

I went to Tibet to find my soul[:D]

Anthony
06-02-2005, 06:46 PM
As I said we got ours for around $29k; upgraded stereo, DSG, and Sport Package. No Open Sky or Xenons though.

Tinman
06-02-2005, 11:51 PM
dude, 30k for an audi-quality fun little hatch like that? worth it. luxury cars aren't supposed to be bargain. You pay extra for the german build. if you want cheaper, you'd look at japan or korea.

I think the A3 is an awesome car that they've priced perfectly!


L8

angryswede
06-06-2005, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by DoThisMyWay
nah, I don't think so... The true Audi enthusiast will pay any price for what they think is worth it. Plus, the MkV GTI and Golfs will be out soon to suit others budgets.

exactly, pricing the audi out of people's price range

TDH
06-06-2005, 03:35 PM
For those considering the Passat wagon as an alternative, you can expect the Passat to start at around the same money if not a bit more. With a loaded Jetta pricing near 30k now, the A3 is a relative bargain.

I'll probably be buying the Passat variant as I'll want the extra size but I don't think 30k for the A3 is all that out of line for a nicely equipped version. If its too pricey for you though, why not just wait for the 4 door Golf with the 2.0T engine. You can probably pick it up loaded for the price of the A3 in base level.

imola_Jon
06-08-2005, 01:54 AM
Originally posted by boooger
i agree, 30k is outrageous. Thats why i just bought a used s4 instead.

100% agree. New cars are really overated (at least on my budget) I have no problem staying a few years behind what's in the show rooms. You can get a loaded car inside & out for the same price or less as something brand new thats not even loaded.

Sure there's a chance the car may have been neglected or abused by the prior owner, but that's why you do lots of research and give the car a white glove inspection before you purchase.

IMO a luxury car should be overflowing w/ options; and a well kept 4 year old loaded car is nicer than a stripped down brand new one. Maybe I'll change my mind when I'm making big bank in a few years.[:D]

drlandry00
06-19-2005, 01:04 PM
Being a young Audi enthusiust I am recently trying to sell my 2000 A4 1.8t in order to purchase the New A3 2.0t . The sticker on my A3 is about 33,000. It is loaded. I planned on leasing it for 2 years, at the 370.00 per month, and then buy it after the lease, so the mileage wounldnt matter. I have 1.5 years of school left and I certainly couldnt affor a 33,000 car right now, So that is how us broke hard working school going kids do it. Hopefully all works out well. and I talked to Evoms.com about the A3 and they are working on an intake, and exhaust by another company and a chip with giac. They have the DSG and they said it is sick, Hopefully I will test drive both!!! Cant wait guys, The A3 Vortex kit on that white car is worth all my millions!!!

Anthony
06-19-2005, 04:00 PM
A lease deal on an A3 for $370 a month? Where did you see this? There are zero lease incentives on the A3 that I've seen. And it's Votex, not Vortex. [;)]

SpearheadX
06-19-2005, 07:01 PM
If you are using A4 math to assume your lease rate on the A3, I am afraid you will be dissapointed.

Lease rates are going to be close to $600 on that config.

I can tell you where to get a better rate than Audi offers, but I don't think anybody will give you sub $500.

Anthony
06-19-2005, 07:08 PM
Yeah we barely knocked out a sub-$500/month payment on our 3-year A3 lease.

SpearheadX
06-19-2005, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Anthony
Yeah we barely knocked out a sub-$500/month payment on our 3-year A3 lease.

You must have made some sort of a downpayment to reduce the total Cap Cost for that sort of payment?!?

Anthony
06-19-2005, 07:46 PM
Yes of course. $4k I believe.

J-roc
06-20-2005, 02:21 AM
Yep, and it was worth it![a3]

hurahn
06-23-2005, 06:48 PM
I think it's a sexy little car. It's a little on the pricey side but I think it's worth it. I don't think you'd be happy with a Mazda 3 if you're coming from an Audi. You could always buy used though.