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viceprp
04-10-2012, 03:20 AM
Edit: The car started off with intentions of running AEM Full Standalone but was eventually aborted for Lugtronic VEMS.

Scat rods
Stock pistons
GT3076 Tial Housing
Garrett FMIC
Tial 44mm WG
Tial 50mm BOV
AEB IM
OBD-I VR6 TB
Bosch 2x2 Coil Pack
ID1000 inj
-6 & -8 fuel lines
Anti-Surge Tank
044 fuel pump
Vband SS exhaust
FX400 Clutch (228mm) & LW steel FW
S4 bumper
4 EGT sensors

As it looked upon return with AEM:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0210.jpg

It's current state with Lugtronic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/20150123_133308_zps0ctpeac4.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150123_133308_zps0ctpeac4.jpg.html)

I would like to thank Bobby and Andrew for coming out and helping me load up this car. I would have never made it.

viceprp
04-10-2012, 03:26 AM
First step is to keep the car at its current start and make it run. New battery, CDI and a bit of patience. I'm optimistic that it will do the trick and once there, I will gut the car and run with just the front seats and then find time to reroute the stereo system, mount/hide the EMS system. I will be toning down the engine bay a lot. No more red, no more polished housing or AUG VC. I want black / charcoal look to it but that is far down the road after its running smoothly again.

Uninstalled CDI and shipping soon. I have some prior obligations for shipping out items that I want to do all at once.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0221.jpg

jaychen
04-10-2012, 03:28 AM
Huh?

So JK35 didn't finish tuning?

revolution337
04-10-2012, 03:34 AM
yay steve finally has a build thread! haha

morzechowski
04-10-2012, 04:15 AM
Holy wires coming through your fire wall!

walky_talky20
04-10-2012, 05:35 AM
Yeah, I doubt it really *needs* all those.

Wet0willy01
04-10-2012, 05:46 AM
I will be rerouting things in a cleaner fashion.


I will be toning down the engine bay a lot. No more red, no more polished housing or AUG VC. I want black / charcoal look to it
Will definately look better with a little TLC and attention to details....



I would like to thank Bobby and Andrew for coming out and helping me load up this car. I would have never made it.

Glad I could help out man!

viceprp
04-10-2012, 05:57 AM
The tune isn't completely dialed on nit close enough for me now. Set at 19psi. I won't be pushing more then that til I know the car is mechanically sound. There are spare wires for staged inj. It's ready for direct port nos but I have no means of using it. Like I said, ill clean it up once I know that it runs in its current state. If I move/reroute something then its another variable to consider.

There is several weeks of work to do. Just because I push 60hrs a week and I have no spare time. Also, the garage has no electric as of yet so working at night isn't an option.

walky_talky20
04-10-2012, 06:27 AM
If I move/reroute something then its another variable to consider.

I completely agree. With a completely modified car, you've already got plenty of variables. Minimizing new ones is a priority, at least until it's running.

Step 1. Electrics in the garage. This is key...lol.

Wet0willy01
04-10-2012, 11:36 AM
Your battery cable is very close to the downpipe and doesnt seem to be secured where its routed. I just relocated mine down under the battery tray and away from the DP/ WG reroute. I also used dei fire sleeve as well. That portion of the cable is directly off the battery and would become a welding lead/fire starter rather quickly if it melted.

black99.5a4
04-10-2012, 12:27 PM
Glad we could get it up on the trailer for ya man. Get er cleaned up and fired up. Lmk if you need a hand or get a bu ch of crap to do and well spend the GTG working on it.

[up]

viceprp
04-10-2012, 06:39 PM
I'm hoping to have atleast the CDI back by then, Bobby.

Things I have to do:
Prime / Pressure test the fuel system
Re Install the FMIC & Plumbing
Pick up a new battery
Adjust vband exhaust clamp

The fuel lines were dragging on the ground when I picked up the car and the braided lines have some minor rash on 3" of the line. I have plenty of line to cut & splice if need be but I will run the pumps through AEMpro and see if any leaks occur. I'm hoping they don't and I can just tuck them. This happened during transportation and was at a loss of words at some minor scratches on the body and curb rash wheels. I'm glad I didn't see them rip it off the carrier or I would have probably flipped.

Also, Andrew and Bobby uninstalled the FMIC due to ground clearance when loading on the trailer.

Keith, he plans on having electric out there by the time the CDI returns. Then I can roll the car over to the lift and have a bit of ground clearance.

bw86
04-10-2012, 06:45 PM
Hey, did he say how he hooked up the stock tach? Take a look under the steering wheel and see if he tapped into the gauge cluster.

viceprp
04-10-2012, 06:49 PM
Will do. Idk when I will be back but I will check that out for you. I make myself a checklist.

I cannot wait for this thing to crank over. I just want to hear it! Also, I will be digging into the packages tomorrow and getting back to you with some pictures. I think tomorrow will be somewhat early for me so I can do it then.

revolution337
04-10-2012, 06:59 PM
Let me know if you ever need a hand. I'm free almost every night after work. [up]

viceprp
04-11-2012, 02:05 AM
Might take you up on that Mark. I can install the Cdi in 5 minutes but if that doesn't work, I might need another hand.

M-Hood
04-11-2012, 08:24 AM
If you are going to run the Tial 50mm BOV put a hose clamp on the vented area to reduce the amount of air that comes out of the BOV when it opens. If you don't the car basically falls on its face when going from 1st to 2nd gear. Actually just had someone in WV call me up the other day with the same issue on his fully built A4 with a 2 liter and 6262 which he drag races.

Wet0willy01
04-11-2012, 08:31 AM
The QR Vented to atmosphere would act like a Q with the outlets restricted, no?

M-Hood
04-11-2012, 09:07 AM
The QR Vented to atmosphere would act like a Q with the outlets restricted, no?

Yes it should since the QR is basically just the Q or 50mm but with a housing around it and 1 single outlet. If you have the problem you could just put a reducer house on the outlet.

bw86
04-11-2012, 09:41 AM
If you are going to run the Tial 50mm BOV put a hose clamp on the vented area to reduce the amount of air that comes out of the BOV when it opens.

hmmm, does a similar effect happen on the ssqvs? My friend has an extra one he said he'll give me.

Seerlah
04-11-2012, 10:00 AM
Waiting for this thing to hit the road [drive]

M-Hood
04-11-2012, 02:07 PM
hmmm, does a similar effect happen on the ssqvs? My friend has an extra one he said he'll give me.

Not sure but I dont think it is an issue with that BOV. Problem happens with the Tial 50mm because of the very large vent area when the BOV opens.

viceprp
04-11-2012, 03:47 PM
Thanks Mike. I will look into it once I have the car up and running. I don't want to change the current setup until the CDI is shipped / returned and a fresh battery is put in. If I do a few pulls and notice the description you stated then I will change it up.

viceprp
04-12-2012, 02:19 AM
I'll be following http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/480052-Dynamat-project-on-the-Avant!?p=7476525#post7476525 this thread and might look into Dynomat. I feel the 044 whine and 3" exhaust is going to make a lot of cabin noise. I'll find out the full effects of it when I run no interior w/ just the two front seats for a while. The rest of the car will be completely stripped and rerouting wires for the fuel system and also my sub unit. I can't wait to find some time to ship out this unit and get it all started. From what I have planned, it will only take 15 minutes of work to get it where I need it to get the AEMpro up and running and test a few things out.

jaychen
04-12-2012, 04:09 AM
I'm still not following what happened ?

Wasn't it finished and being tuned by JK35?

revolution337
04-12-2012, 04:28 AM
I'm still not following what happened ?

Wasn't it finished and being tuned by JK35?

I think kyle had other stuff going on in his life, and steve just wanted his car back.....really bad (which I can understand)

viceprp
04-12-2012, 06:02 AM
Couple variables to consider. My work schedule, his business (not just working on cars), transport company and most importantly TIME. Give a quick description of the 9 month ordeal: the car is a dbw '00 with modest Stg 1 parts. It was a build Kyle was very familiar with but with the difference from the a4 from '98 to '00, it was enough to make major changes. I ordered the transporter back in January and the price was cheap since ppl up north we going down and it was a drought for customers going North. Well a few weeks ago, the tables flipped and everyone is heading back up. Of course transportation tripled in that time and I wasn't having it. Since the car sat with a 6 yr old battery, of course it was dead. It also burnt out the Cdi unit which now has no spark. As you may no, a running car is cheaper to transport then a broke down vehicle. So my price went up some more. I talked directly with the transporter and negotiated to pick it up at their business in Lancaster with a significant discount. I ended up with a few cosmetic happenings with it on its route up that I'm a bit upset about. I have no DD for work as its a Fuso box that gets 10mpg on diesel @4.39/gallon. Plus for the past 9 months, my fast vehicle does 0-60 in 12 seconds and the box at just over 20..

Now that its home, I have to send the unit out to AEm in Ca and then reinstall. I have some maintenance that I would like to do and then I'm ready to start up whenever the part gets back. So it might sit for another 1,2,8 weeks (cdi pending) and then I will going balls out. The only thing I'm relieved on knowing is that the ball is in my court and I'm the one driving in. No more waiting on others schedules or anything personal. I hold no grudge bc I know what is involved. He just bit a bit too much at once.

jaychen
04-12-2012, 07:42 AM
Fair enough dude.. hope it works out for you!

viceprp
04-17-2012, 06:30 AM
Few things I'm going to be doing while the car is out of commission:

- wrench off / ship the abs module to Kompress
- clean all drain plugs *battery & Sun roof
- might refinish all 5 wheels since the transporter fucked up one.

Shipping out parts this weekend.

Seerlah
04-17-2012, 06:37 AM
Wanted to say, you will get used to the 044 whine. But yeah, that pump is rather loud. It can easily sound like a tire leaking air, outside the vehicle.

revolution337
04-17-2012, 09:49 AM
Few things I'm going to be doing while the car is out of commission:

- wrench off / ship the abs module to Kompress
- clean all drain plugs *battery & Sun roof- might refinish all 5 wheels since the transporter fucked up one.

Shipping out parts this weekend.

I cleaned out my battery drain when I had the engine out of my car. It was nasty, so much dirt and leaves clogging it up. I'm surprised my battery tray didn't flood up at all with it like that.

Wet0willy01
04-17-2012, 09:54 AM
Just noticed you took bobby's sarcasm to heart and changed your signature.

viceprp
04-18-2012, 03:55 AM
That I did. Lol

Threw out my back so now pulling a tire this week and sending the abs module looks slim to none.

spindoctor
04-18-2012, 04:26 AM
Damn it. I like your valve cover.

viceprp
04-18-2012, 05:25 AM
Thanks, the car does have potential but with the on going house projects, the cosmetic upgrades will be on stand by once its mechanically sound and up and running. Valve cover, turbo, fmic, plumbing, bov, ewg will all be powder coated black or charcoal. I'm anti shine and if I didn't have a mortgage, would vinyl the entire car.

I'm also removing all tint and anything making the car too flashy to the cops. It's already bad enough that is a full race standalone car with straight exhaust. Fish bowl FTW.

jaychen
04-18-2012, 05:35 AM
I thought cops in America didn't give a shit about mods?

viceprp
04-18-2012, 06:13 AM
Pa has emissions and visual inspection. Standalone won't pass emissions so its illegal in Pa. I'm registered in Adams Co so emissions don't apply for me.

M-Hood
04-18-2012, 07:38 AM
I thought cops in America didn't give a shit about mods?

Maybe in the woods, but in the larger cities it is hard to get away with any type of mods on your car. CA is a hard core Anti-Mod state which is one of the reasons I stopped driving my car on the street in 2006, even though it was never going to need a smog check again in its life.

Here is how bad CA is, just takes 1 person to complain for a city to shut down a race track which is complete BS and why I am leaving CA.

redline380
04-18-2012, 08:38 AM
Here is how bad CA is, just takes 1 person to complain for a city to shut down a race track which is complete BS and why I am leaving CA.

my pre-law advisor asked me where i wanted to go to law school, geographically speaking. i said anywhere but california.

@jaychen-not sure if you know but california kind of considers itself to be above the rest of the nation. when it comes to aftermarket car parts, most are considered 49 state legal. california has more specific laws on just about everything that pollutes. the rest of the states just use federal law. but up here in minnesota we are fairly mod friendly. you might get pulled over for loud exhaust and tint, but if the cop pooped the hood he would probably saw nice looking car. unless he didnt see a cat. then its up to the cop whether you get a ticket or not.

but +1 on the build. glad to see you finally got your car

viceprp
04-26-2012, 03:16 AM
Once I get word of the CDI being shipped back and a few other parts, I will be jumping all over this on my weekends. Usually have off on Sunday, usually, and will be banging out some hours to get her running.

I will be picking up some Jeg's Fuel line hangers, black boost lines, New battery (not sure if LW), Heat wrap, Dot 4 Fluid.

I will be pressure testing the fuel system to make sure the -8 lines are okay under the car. Looking forward to running a stripped interior and hear the 044 pump whine! Once that happens, I will be adding sound deadening foam if I become annoyed by the pump. Pictures and updates will be posted as they come in.

I recently got parts out to BW86 so hopefully he will have some progress to post up soon. Can't wait to hear this car start up. Very optimistic about the build.

jaychen
04-26-2012, 05:44 AM
wow,

hope it all comes together for you dude.

something seems a bit off with it all right now?!

bw86
04-26-2012, 07:20 AM
Thanks for shipping my stuff out Steve! Can't wait to get this thing running.

viceprp
04-26-2012, 11:17 AM
Everything is coming together. Just needing to reroute a few things and clean it up a bit. I have a long list of cosmetic, maintenance, and slight upgrades coming soon. I want to be sure the car is safe once up and running so sent my module to kompresed and it seems done already. Will be flushing the brake system.

Also the damaged wheels will be wet sanded, primed and painted once more. It took me just over 3 days with two other hands before and I'll be just anal as I was before. I'm going to also wrap the spare in shrink wrap to keep the wheel from moving and wearing paint off on the carpet.

redline380
04-26-2012, 11:31 AM
Also the damaged wheels will be wet sanded, primed and painted once more. It took me just over 3 days with two other hands before and I'll be just anal as I was before.

i repainted my celebration rims this winter. no, not black, just gunmetal, but i did sand by hand. was very labor inensive. not ure if you have any rash, but i bought some puddy at the hardware store used for stopping plumbing leaks. it filled in the rash nicely and got very hard, yet still very sandable. i recommend something like this if you need to fill some stuff in

viceprp
04-26-2012, 11:34 AM
Yeah, ill be using filler and painting them back to metallic bronze. I have some nice rubber left so this will last til winter. Then I'll be stripping the tint and running some teal A3 11 spoke or 15.

viceprp
05-04-2012, 02:33 AM
Few quick updates:

*AEM finally got back to me and my CDI was shipped out yesterday.
*Picked up a labtop that is dedicated to AEMpro.
*My abs module was shipped out to Kompresed Monday afternoon and was fixed and back to my door Saturday morning! Fast return rate and a awesome job. Highly recommend him.

I don't plan on picking up anymore parts til the CDI unit comes in. I do have a list ready to order but trying to find the best deals. Anybody know where to pick up the passenger rear window regulator for cheap? Audi wants $160, ECS tuning doesn't have them in stock and Euro PaParts seems the cheapest. Biting the bullet here soon. Might I add that 034 and mjm don't have them, atleast listed.

bw86
05-04-2012, 08:29 AM
[up]..

viceprp
05-16-2012, 02:17 AM
Well, went over to install everything and was hoping for a fire up with some buddies. That wasn't the case. I ran into a few hiccups after a smooth FMIC, BOV, and battery install. I noticed that the powersteering cooler hoses were routed wrong. Not mechanically but just the direction they were laying. I couldn't level it out for a clean look behind the hood grill. I saw that they were routed over the bumper rebar support and was touching the lower left corner of the headlight. I pinched and pulled off the hoses and ran them under rebar support with much better success. This was a quick solution. The problem I ran into was the CDI unit / AEM plug.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0356.jpg
I'm looking to find an adapter for the DB9 to a USB or HD15.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0362.jpg

Also, the CDI unit was cake to uninstall and was a matter of 30 seconds to have the 3 wires unplugged. When I got it back, it was raw connections so I had to go out and buy a crimper and connections. I tried to get the petite female ends over the beefy wires with no success. I crimped the wires 3 times and with a quick tug to see if it would stay, it slipped off with ease. I'm in search for a solution for this. It's two small things that are holding me back from firing this thing up.

I still have to install the ABS module and bleed the brakes. I have 64 oz, over kill, to be sure I have enough and don't need to run out for more.

viceprp
05-29-2012, 10:31 AM
UPDATE:

I installed the CDI unit after buying the proper tools for the job. I needed yellow connections and the $30 crimpers were HORRIBLE to use. I bought the basic 6 in 1 set for $15 and it worked better two fold. I immediately ran into problems with the CDI. It should be rapidly firing on the test light when connected to the EMS and grounded. This wasn't the case. I immediately called AEM and they were kind enough to trouble shoot the problem. I had NO spark with a very weak crank. They informed me that the CDI unit was working when it was shipped out and it must be something electrical. I checked all the grounds and the fuses with no luck. I then manually made spark with Coil 1 and narrowed it down to the EMS. Yes, the $1600 unit is either faulty / broke / needs further configuration.

Well, I just got the call and found out that the EMS system that was installed in the car isn't the one that I bought. It was to Kyle's 2.0T Stroker 3076. I just shipped it out and hope to have the unit back by next week. I'm hoping to have the fuel lines buttoned up and car stripped by then. My work schedule is hit or miss and I can never plan to be anywhere. To the point that I missed my anniversary dinner..

At its current state:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0389.jpg

and if you're wondering where the tire marks came from.. here you go.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/th_VIDEO0018.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/?action=view&current=VIDEO0018.mp4)

bw86
05-29-2012, 12:05 PM
Can't wait to hear it start!

Why can't you use Kyles box with your car?

viceprp
05-29-2012, 12:17 PM
Can't wait to hear it start!

Why can't you use Kyles box with your car?

As of now, I'm in the look out for an old DB9 connection laptop. I can make it work but I would need a laptop capable of connecting directly to it or a desktop. If you see my picture above, AEM recommends direct connection with no converters. Which I bought a while back. So I'm going to buy an old laptop and build it to my liking.

I think the crank signal might be configured differently with his being a 2.0 stroker motor. Its a very WEAK crank and also he had some crazy timing with and astronomical amount of boost. The EMS system reads this as being unsafe and will not allow fuel or spark to produce.

walky_talky20
05-29-2012, 12:27 PM
You need something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Ft-Translucent-USB-2-0-to-DB9-RS232-Serial-Converter-Adapter-Cable-3-Feet-/380411655390?pt=US_Parallel_Serial_PS_2_Cables_Ada pters&hash=item58924d34de

or this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812232006

viceprp
05-29-2012, 12:32 PM
Walky, I have that. AEM doesn't recommend it since they had some bad luck with customers using them. I'll figure it out eventually but I'm hoping to get the new ems and have better results.

revolution337
05-29-2012, 02:31 PM
Just a minor setback, no biggie lol.

If it makes you feel any better, my car isn't on the road yet either.

chris164935
05-29-2012, 10:17 PM
That port on your laptop that you posted a picture of is for VGA-Out connection (displaying to an outside screen, such as a projector). Does your laptop have a PCMCIA port? It looks like this:
http://www.zdnet.co.uk/i/z5/illo/nw/story_graphics/11may/old-laptops/old-laptops-cnet-7.jpg

If so, then this adaptor more than likely will work with the AEM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16839150032&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA
Of course, just Google "PCMCIA to serial port adaptor" for a cheaper model. I use a generic Chinese one (I think it was like $15) and have had no problems with anything. I can use it for VAG-Com all day long without any hassles.

Sucks though how fast technology is advancing in almost every aspect of the computer industry except in stand-alone engine management systems (except maybe MoTeC). I mean, it's 2012 and they're still using serial cables. Serial cable ports haven't been installed on computers since at least 2006/2007.

viceprp
05-30-2012, 01:52 AM
The GTI is having Lugtronics and is a db9 to usb setup. Billy is a usb to usb connection on his AEM but I'm the odd ball.

I just talked to Bou @ AEM and he recommended two converters that they had success with so all is not lost. Will see if my cousin has any old labtops laying around since he is a guru with these types of things. He built my old gaming computer back in my .. nerd days. I will have to mod the old laptop though, I'm addicted.

bw86
05-30-2012, 08:28 AM
Hope everything works out. We primed the motor yesterday and tried to establish stat sync but no dice. Kept getting a shit load of timing errors and sync errors. I emailed beau with a log to see if he could lend a hand. Ill report back tonight some time. I honestly wish I just went with lugtronic lol.

Sent from my DROID using Tapatalk 2

bw86
05-30-2012, 03:32 PM
Well Beau got back to me - apparently the ems isn't seeing a cam signal or a tps signal. Great!

bw86
06-01-2012, 08:11 PM
Just a little update - tried 3 different cam sensors and they all don't send a signal to the ems sooooooo I guess it's the harness [headbang]

Guess I'll be checking for continuity tomorrow some time.

This is bullshit

viceprp
06-02-2012, 04:09 AM
First is it Bou or Beau?

Once my EMS is back, I will log it for you to see if anything is tweaked. Stat sync is a bitch.

bw86
06-02-2012, 09:44 AM
Beau lol

viceprp
06-03-2012, 02:28 AM
Gotcha, well atleast I didn't send him and email. My old college soccer coach was named Bou from Portugal. lol

viceprp
07-25-2012, 02:17 PM
*Quick Prayer*

Update in a few hours. Hopefully with a video..

revolution337
07-25-2012, 06:52 PM
*Quick Prayer*

Update in a few hours. Hopefully with a video..

fingers crossed!

viceprp
07-25-2012, 07:57 PM
Didn't start up .. I believe I know why. Will post back tomorrow after I give it another shot. If it starts up... I'm taking this one to the grave.

redline380
07-25-2012, 09:22 PM
i want a video of it running. now!

viceprp
07-30-2012, 07:47 PM
That much closer now to starting up!

What was done:

-AEM MAP sensor was set at a 3.5bar wizard. Quickly changed it to a 5bar map and then came changing all the breaking points for the load sensors.
-Now the biggest find of tonight was the cam sensor power wire. I was getting power with the key on but not when cranking. Sourced out the cam power and hooked it up to a steady 12v.

I etablished stat sync, which is a HUGE FEAT.


What needs to be done:

Pick up my trickle charger and get this BRAND new battery to read 14v and above 12v while cranking.
Prime the fuel pumps and read some pressure at the rails.

START UP!!!

Wet0willy01
07-30-2012, 07:53 PM
Anxious for you to get this running. These long term PA builds need to get going....

Wet0willy01
07-30-2012, 07:54 PM
Pics or ban

viceprp
07-30-2012, 08:06 PM
Car is FAAAAR from picture worthy. If you thought the bay was bad, you should see the exterior and interior. I plan on washing her ASAP. I am ashamed.. .

Wet0willy01
07-30-2012, 08:21 PM
dude my car has cobwebs on it.... true story

viceprp
08-04-2012, 02:27 AM
I'll be going over after work today and hopefully have a successful day. I was priming manually through AEM with two successful 32 second passes but then when I manually primed with just the grounds, it sparked during the stock pump testing. After that, they wouldn't prime. Instead of going straight to the fuse, we test out all the leads and couldn't find the problem. It was getting dark and just called it a day.

Anyhow, I have a few pictures to update the thread. It isn't set in stone but until I have the car started and enjoy myself, I will not be changing anything. Plan will be to only have a few pieces polished (WG, BOV and FMIC plumbing). All the red lines will be black and tucked as much as possible. Everything will be black/charcoal in the bay. I'm not sure if I want the vc to be red of not.

Anyhow, to the goodies:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0520.jpg

Look carefully..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0518.jpg

The total package.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0511.jpg

EGT on each runner..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0514.jpg

The goods - GT3076 with tial housing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0515.jpg

Finally washed but needing clay bar and waxed BAD!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0508.jpg

Seerlah
08-04-2012, 04:21 AM
You aren't going to leave the ECU box like that are you? I suggest clear plexi glass cut and fit over where you cute, seal with whatever you choose (ie window silicone), rivet it onto the top portion of the box (where you cut), and open the box how you are normally supposed to. But water will def get in there with the way you have it.

viceprp
08-04-2012, 04:54 AM
I'll look into it but its been through months of heavy rain with no problems. My driver side floor has gotten wet while the ecu box has stayed dried. It's sealed up fairly well.

viceprp
08-04-2012, 04:56 AM
Just read what you wrote. Lol its plexiglass already. Just hard to see

viceprp
08-09-2012, 01:59 AM
Just want to thank Andrew (Wet0Willy01) again. I have witnesses..

Not sure when I'll get back over but much tuning is needed to keep her idling. I'm just read to go balls deep in stripping / cleaning this car. There is A LOT to do still.

Wet0willy01
08-09-2012, 05:26 AM
Glad to hear it fire up. When you going back to work on it? I still need to send you a message with what needs finished up. Maybe if you buy some shrink wrap I'll come up and solder the wiring I fixed so at least that's done right. Unless you want more butt connectors hahah

viceprp
09-01-2012, 03:22 AM
Update

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0560.jpg

Obviously the car is running on the rich side. I've cleaned them and after three start ups with immediate shut off, this is how they look. I brought the car down with NGK7E's and somehow have some cheap Denso's in there. Next thing is to install a quality plug, and then trim TONs of fuel which adv some ignition. Once idled, ill need a timing light to dial in my idle timing.

I havent worked on the car in weeks but will ne back once I recover from the financial hit I just took due to the break up. I'm pumped to hear it idle, the exhaust sounds MEAN when it ramps up to 3k and shuts off.

viceprp
09-18-2012, 02:57 PM
Talked to Kevin briefly and will be having a tune put on it from him after H2o. I will try my best to trim fuel and get the idle set and ready but if it doesn't then there will be a process to get this car in order.

If I can't make it idle:

He will come out and, of course, tune the car to idle. I will be then get the car up on the lift and button up all the fuel lines underneath and tear the stock system once that hasn't. Ill be cutting part of the FMIC bracket to allow my Powersteering cooler to sit lower/level without it rubbing against any parts. There is much more but that is all I have for now.

revolution337
09-18-2012, 03:25 PM
sooo....still driving the box truck? lol

viceprp
09-18-2012, 03:35 PM
sooo....still driving the box truck? lol

Box truck = 12mpg @ $4.19
350 Pickup = 10mpg @$3.89

screwed either way, but yes I drive it still on special occasions.

Edit: But lets be honest, the ladies can barely contain themselves when they see the box rolling around. It's like a zombie apocalypse of hot, topless women coming at me.

bw86
09-18-2012, 06:40 PM
Lets see a video of this hunk of junk already!!

[cool]

viceprp
10-16-2012, 02:17 AM
Been a while since I updated this. Not much to alter but I'm going to put the trickle charger on the battery this week and play with the tune once I change the spark plugs out for some NGK 7E's. Anyone suggest any other plugs?

It's running WAY too much fuel so I'll be cutting the fuel map by 10% til I stop flooding out

I'm running a 5bar fpr, and am not sure that is set correctly. If I unplug the vacuum, should it show 70psi regardless or should I adjust it to show that number each time it starts, then reinstall the vacuum line?

I'm still waiting on Kevin but since he will be building my buddies harness, I figure then would be a good time to get the car idling.

Mark, I've been driving another work truck. My HOA frowned upon the box. Lol

viceprp
10-16-2012, 02:29 AM
Also, I believe my cam signal is off. I will usually go through 2-3 ank attempts before I stat sync. Once I stat sync, it fires right up. After 2-3 stat sync start ups, I will shoot a fuel fire ball.. I have spark, too much fuel and running out of patience.

If I open up the cam sensor. It should be 2 teeth off correct? 60-2

Seerlah
10-16-2012, 02:51 AM
Took me a couple tries of adjusting my fpr to get it right on each fire up. Sometimes, it would be off. Guess the warm/cold gas pressure messed with it. Either way, mine is at ~43.5 psi (3 bar) on every start up and even after running now (vacuum line removed). Can't get it perfect, but meh. Also, can;t help you with your other issues, but I run the 3 prong Bosch FR5DTC plugs. Ran Bosch F6DTC 3 prong plugs prior.

viceprp
10-16-2012, 09:38 AM
The stronger the spark, the better. I'm running a twin fire Cdi so I should be able to send a spark though 1/2" drywall.

Dan[FN]6262
10-16-2012, 10:18 AM
Also, I believe my cam signal is off. I will usually go through 2-3 ank attempts before I stat sync. Once I stat sync, it fires right up. After 2-3 stat sync start ups, I will shoot a fuel fire ball.. I have spark, too much fuel and running out of patience.

If I open up the cam sensor. It should be 2 teeth off correct? 60-2


60-2 is for the crank trigger wheel.

M-Hood
10-16-2012, 11:10 AM
Took me a couple tries of adjusting my fpr to get it right on each fire up. Sometimes, it would be off. Guess the warm/cold gas pressure messed with it. Either way, mine is at ~43.5 psi (3 bar) on every start up and even after running now (vacuum line removed). Can't get it perfect, but meh. Also, can;t help you with your other issues, but I run the 3 prong Bosch FR5DTC plugs. Ran Bosch F6DTC 3 prong plugs prior.

fuel pressure is not always going to be the same because the FPR is effected by atmospheric pressure changes.

viceprp
12-20-2012, 01:15 PM
http://www.audizine.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=83706

viceprp
12-20-2012, 03:52 PM
I'm selling my AEM 1900-U EMS with harness and other misc items. I have come to a crossroad that I was about to just completely part out the car and buy a work truck. I'm VERY close to idling the car but I just can't afford to continue with what needs finished. I'm selling the EMS to then fund the next system and also a few other parts I need to finish the car. I have well over $3,000 invested in the EMS and willing to take the hit to proceed. The entire harness is labelled and wrapped. I will assist the buyer as much as I possibly can but I really want to sell it to a serious enthusiast. This EMS will do absolutely everything you throw at it. The reason I'm selling is due to needing money - plain and simple. I own a home and am without an income for the next 3 months til the work season starts again. I will make due but like I said, I was about to sell the entire car and just pick up a work vehicle. I have too much invested into this car to just throw it all out and not have the chance to enjoy the jump from a K03 to GT30r.

I'm not sure what I'll be keeping to make my next EMS system work so I will update the Ad once I know. Hopefully I can get this out to another Zine member that can enjoy this EMS to the full extent.

Seerlah
12-20-2012, 03:52 PM
Forgot all about this thread. Plus you don't post in this section much anymore. So, what's next?

viceprp
12-20-2012, 03:58 PM
Mitch,

I've been busy with the holidays and a lot has happened in my personal life that has taken a financial toll on my account. I'm on the build again to financial stability, all while maintaining a home & funding a BAT. I paid my ex off to keep a few items and ended up losing out on a lot more then I bargained for. Let it be known, never trust an ex or their parents. I should have been around to witness her moving out but I was at work and came home to a very empty house.

Anyhow, my lose will be someone's gain here. I look forward to hearing the success story on whoever uses this EMS/Harness to power their car. Just won't be mine.

Seerlah
12-20-2012, 04:02 PM
That sucks. I grew up with 2 women, my mother and my sister, and no father. I know the shadiness of women. They can manifest hell on earth. But hey, you didn't hear that from me. Hope things work out for you. That's life though. Take the punches, roll with it, move on from it, learn from it, and become a better person from it.

My car has also not had the best attention lately. Focusing on school for me is just too much more important. Have not drove it in over a month now and finally found out the issue it had. Currently sorting it out since I am currently on break and have time to do. Then...back to school.

flynnr
12-20-2012, 07:39 PM
after selling the EMS i suggest you try to get a job for the next 3 months... there are plenty of stores hiring for the holiday season. Good luck with everything!!

viceprp
01-20-2013, 09:02 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0667.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0868.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0869.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0863.jpg

Yes, that is mold. Yes, those are black sport clothes. Yes, I was a little more than upset.

redline380
01-20-2013, 09:13 PM
wtf?

viceprp
01-20-2013, 09:43 PM
My car has been sitting at my buddy's garage since last April. It never sees the light of day and during the summer was very damp. Car was shipped up with a broken window regulator and it eventually fell to its death in his garage. Leaving it open to the elements and the start of this growth. I've recently stripped the interior out as you can see but haven't upoaded the clean shots. I have a few more hours worth of work to do til the interior is mold free.

Trust me, I wouldn't share these pictures if the interior didn't look mint now...

redline380
01-20-2013, 09:51 PM
im pretty sure shit like mold needs to be killed or it will come back. the mold on my bathroom ceiling does anyways. and im terribly sorry to see that. and to hear about your ex stories. now, get shit done and post pics of interior in its full glory

viceprp
01-21-2013, 07:36 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0874.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0872.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0873.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0876.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0864.jpg

I didn't detail the plastics since the car will be at another shop in the next few weeks and I'm sure it will get dirty. The driver seat will be the only one going back in so Kevin has room to work on the other side. The sport clothes look a little hazed in the pictures still and that is due to the material. Whenever they get wet from the rain or sweat, you will see a water mark. They were still wet from being cleaned but turned out mint when they dried over night.

I still have to do under the rear seats and also the trunk area. Engine bay will be worked on soon as well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMAG0871.jpg

PLANS:
Wrinkle paint VC black (selling / trade for ATW)
Paint Intake mani black
Swap in grey coolant tank

After* Lugtronics
Boost lines will be black
Harness will be tucked

Wet0willy01
01-21-2013, 08:21 AM
Keep up the good work

Seerlah
01-21-2013, 08:38 AM
How did you clean your car out? Whenever I get water in my car (fixed the issue) I would Lysol the crap out of my carpets (I mean soaked and let air dry) so mold would not build up after shop-vacing the water out.

viceprp
01-21-2013, 09:57 AM
The carpet cleaner was very potent and the ammonia alone killed most of it so far. Plastics were cleaned with a bacteria killing multi-surface spray. Carpets and seats took several hours to dry.

What was you water problems caused from? Battery tray / sunroof drain plugs?

Seerlah
01-21-2013, 10:01 AM
I am running the power cable for my subwoofer amplifier through the hood cable grommet into the car. One day my back seat was a couple inches deep in water (car on ramps). It was bad. I just placed a bunch of window silicon around that grommet and never had an issue since.

s3apra4
01-21-2013, 11:57 AM
Sorry to hear your dealing with Mold.... I hate mold... I wish it would all just die... (Don't ask why, just took away 8 months of my life)
Although you seem to be killing/er cleaning it up pretty good. FWIW contrary To popular belief bleach does not kill mold. It just makes it white. Good luck! And want to see it on the road soon!!!!!

viceprp
03-09-2013, 07:48 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/2013-03-09015611_zps09f55c1b.jpg

Wet0willy01
03-09-2013, 08:27 AM
Nice k04

viceprp
03-09-2013, 01:31 PM
Pipe down.

viceprp
03-10-2013, 09:58 AM
More PC parts:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/IMG955548_zps7106f933.jpg

flynnr
03-10-2013, 01:55 PM
Could you tell me how you cleaned your seats exactly? Mine have some minor water marks and I would just like to remove the whole interior and clean the shit out of everything. Your seats look great now, just looking to get some advice on what you used for cleaners and equipment. Thanks

viceprp
03-10-2013, 05:01 PM
I used a wet/dry vacuum to clean off dirt. Then bought a carpet / upholstery cleaner with brush. Of course, I used the carpet cleaner for the floors with a mildly aggressive brush. You will be able to push the dirt and vacuum up the left overs. You should do the seats twice if you have the sport clothes.

viceprp
03-11-2013, 07:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/2013-03-11202923_zps5d2cc2c7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/2013-03-11170225_zps1bc69e16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/2013-03-11170337_zpsd42b7b5c.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/2013-03-11174935_zps3d51171f.jpg

Poopie
03-11-2013, 08:20 PM
looks great man!

Seerlah
03-11-2013, 08:40 PM
x2

s3apra4
03-11-2013, 08:49 PM
Nice color selection!
Also EGT sensor in each manifold runner![up]

viceprp
03-12-2013, 07:41 AM
Once the car is up and running, I'll be looking to do a small port head build and cams at once. As of right now, the funds are strict and will be doing small cosmetic wor kand getting Lugtronics. The powdercoating was very reasonable and cost me $20 for the turbo housing and $40 for the VC. I figured I would spend $20-30 in paint to only have it peel off in a few years. The price also included sandblasting as well.

Mitch, what v-band clamp do you have? The one I have will work and hold up but I would like to change it since it was bent up. Pipe diameter is just over 3" and the outer tial ring is 3.5". I forget size clamp you said you have.

Fuel lines were mounted and will no longer have a dragging problem.

terraflata
03-12-2013, 09:33 AM
Nice valvecover ;)

I am getting all my chips in place to send to you for the EMS, etc. I dont know if you were looking for an AEB head. My buddy has one that I gave him a while ago but he never did anything with it. Let me know if you want it. Its not fully built or anything. Keep up the good work, and dont give up, Im going on year 4 of getting my shit done. LOL

viceprp
03-12-2013, 10:21 AM
I believe the last time I drove my car was July 4, 2011.. WTF!

On my to do list:
-Grease seat mounting rails & install driver seat
-Replace exhaust V-Band Clamp
-Purchase/Install Rear Right Windo Regulator
-Purchase/Install B6 Grey Coolant Expansion Tank
-Purchase Podi Dual Digital Gauge w/ Column Bracket
-Purchase 3/8" & 7/16" Black Vacuum Line
-Puchase/Install 2 AEM Nozzle Kits

I'm not going to install the black hoses (as of now) until the car is up and running. I want to eliminate all possible mechanical malfunctions with the car. Also, Andrew brought up a good point that my 4"-3" TIP might be restrictive to my setup. What I will do is keep the 4-3 setup and go with a short cone filter. Then when I put the car on Dynopaks, I will do a run with the cone vs. 4-3 setup. That way I can get back to back results on it, and give more valuable information to the B5/B6 platform.

The car has AEM W/M inj BUT with no nozzles. These nozzles were never shipped up with the car and run $50/ea. Not a happy camper about it but I need them to be able to run a 91 file & 93 + Meth file. Really pisses me off but my lost phone = no contacts = No solution. I will be running a Medium nozzle 8" from the TB and a Large nozzle after the cold side end tank.

Will be ordering more parts throughout the week. If anyone finds any good deals on the above parts, PM or text me. Mitch, I lost my phone so you will have to text me about that v-band clamp.

034Motorsport
03-12-2013, 07:45 PM
Once the car is up and running, I'll be looking to do a small port head build and cams at once. As of right now, the funds are strict and will be doing small cosmetic wor kand getting Lugtronics. The powdercoating was very reasonable and cost me $20 for the turbo housing and $40 for the VC. I figured I would spend $20-30 in paint to only have it peel off in a few years. The price also included sandblasting as well.

Mitch, what v-band clamp do you have? The one I have will work and hold up but I would like to change it since it was bent up. Pipe diameter is just over 3" and the outer tial ring is 3.5". I forget size clamp you said you have.

Fuel lines were mounted and will no longer have a dragging problem.

That's extremely good pricing on powder coating; around here, its nearly $100 to do a valve cover. Stupid Bay Area.


I believe the last time I drove my car was July 4, 2011.. WTF!

On my to do list:
-Grease seat mounting rails & install driver seat
-Replace exhaust V-Band Clamp
-Purchase/Install Rear Right Windo Regulator
-Purchase/Install B6 Grey Coolant Expansion Tank
-Purchase Podi Dual Digital Gauge w/ Column Bracket
-Purchase 3/8" & 7/16" Black Vacuum Line
-Puchase/Install 2 AEM Nozzle Kits

I'm not going to install the black hoses (as of now) until the car is up and running. I want to eliminate all possible mechanical malfunctions with the car. Also, Andrew brought up a good point that my 4"-3" TIP might be restrictive to my setup. What I will do is keep the 4-3 setup and go with a short cone filter. Then when I put the car on Dynopaks, I will do a run with the cone vs. 4-3 setup. That way I can get back to back results on it, and give more valuable information to the B5/B6 platform.

The car has AEM W/M inj BUT with no nozzles. These nozzles were never shipped up with the car and run $50/ea. Not a happy camper about it but I need them to be able to run a 91 file & 93 + Meth file. Really pisses me off but my lost phone = no contacts = No solution. I will be running a Medium nozzle 8" from the TB and a Large nozzle after the cold side end tank.

Will be ordering more parts throughout the week. If anyone finds any good deals on the above parts, PM or text me. Mitch, I lost my phone so you will have to text me about that v-band clamp.


My A4 hasn't ran in 3-4 years. =(

If you need help sourcing the AEM nozzles, I can try my best to get you a killer deal. Happy to help with the other items if you want, but we are an AEM dealer so figured I would ask.

Otherwise, great progress and amazing what you did to the interior.

viceprp
04-27-2013, 03:01 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/teaser_zps767c88db.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/teaser_zps767c88db.jpg.html)

Early birthday gift from the GF..

Seerlah
04-27-2013, 04:06 PM
What is it?

revolution337
04-28-2013, 06:34 AM
What is it?

Air compressor or power washer?

viceprp
04-28-2013, 06:48 AM
Got it Mark. It's an air compressor. I'm eventually building up my garage with all the basic tools. I'll be using this to run 2 air nailer's to frame my basement. Hannold said he will be finishing up with the new vc this week and I'll be getting that one PC the same color as the last. I will be selling the one that I traded with Bryan for cheap. Probably for what it cost's to PC and ship. My car will be in for a new brain and vascular system in 2 weeks. Then this car is out of my hands.

revolution337
04-28-2013, 07:55 AM
Got it Mark. It's an air compressor. I'm eventually building up my garage with all the basic tools. I'll be using this to run 2 air nailer's to frame my basement. Hannold said he will be finishing up with the new vc this week and I'll be getting that one PC the same color as the last. I will be selling the one that I traded with Bryan for cheap. Probably for what it cost's to PC and ship. My car will be in for a new brain and vascular system in 2 weeks. Then this car is out of my hands.

I noticed Alex was spending some time at the bead blaster after work, now I know what he's working on.

terraflata
04-29-2013, 08:25 AM
Hey Steve, I emailed AEM because I couldnt understand how EGT sensors were being used to adjust the fuel trims. Im pretty sure those are UEGO sensors you have. They go with this http://www.aemelectronics.com/wideband-air-fuel-systems-15/4-channel-wideband-uego-controller-60/

From AEM: "The 1900u has 2 built-in UEGO controllers, so the sensors must be wired directly into the ECU through the harness. Yes, the sensors are wideband UEGO AFR sensors, same with our 4-channel UEGO controller."

Wet0willy01
05-06-2013, 12:09 PM
hurry up

viceprp
06-03-2013, 02:39 AM
Say bye bye..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/801F2B29-5CE9-4226-9FD7-18B60EF3A698-25652-000019FA7737B425_zps531f0df3.jpg

terraflata
06-04-2013, 06:32 AM
Bye bye forever?

viceprp
06-06-2013, 02:12 PM
For "a few weeks" - Kevin Black

Gumby
06-06-2013, 05:21 PM
What's getting done?

viceprp
06-07-2013, 07:42 AM
Lugtronics EMS, complete engine harness, 8-1 gauge, larger injectors and a few other goodies.

revolution337
06-07-2013, 08:50 AM
Lugtronics EMS

Hannold seems to be pretty happy with the way his turned out. I'm sure you'll be the same way

Seerlah
06-07-2013, 07:52 PM
He going to tune it at the same time? Car driveable? And how long has your car been on downtime for now? I think you may have the record for the B5 A4 section, but there are a few other contenders. Terraflata being one.

revolution337
06-07-2013, 10:52 PM
I think it's been over 2 years.

Wet0willy01
06-09-2013, 09:46 AM
Who takes this long? Seriously...

Poopie
06-09-2013, 12:01 PM
Hahaha me possibly

viceprp
06-09-2013, 12:08 PM
July 4th 2011, last known life.

It will be tuned for 91oct and 93+meth.

chris164935
06-09-2013, 01:40 PM
My car has been "not drive-able" for almost 6 years now. Lol.

Seerlah
06-09-2013, 01:57 PM
If it makes you feel any better, mine has been out of commission for about 2 weeks now. Not sure how much longer before it is back on the road, but should not be too much longer.


Who takes this long? Seriously...

And how long has yours been on downtime for? haha

Wet0willy01
06-10-2013, 04:55 AM
And how long has yours been on downtime for? haha

That's was the part of my joke. Steve knows about my car.

viceprp
06-10-2013, 07:11 AM
Andrew and I are on a first name basis.

I'm thinking about going with a one off ignition system. Idk if anyone in the b5 world has done it, at least documented in the forums. Tested and proven 800+whp in the VR world.

viceprp
10-07-2013, 09:15 AM
Came to a crossroad at Fall National's and I think I'm going to pull the plug .. on my W/M kit and just do a conservative 91 oct tune and a E85 tune. My eyes have been opened to the world of E85 and seen first hand how easy it was tuned by Kevin. I will be going 91 to drive around easy on the car once up and running. I figure since his tunes are really finicky to oct, I would have it tuned for 91 so I never run into a dilemma with not having 92/93 at the pumps when tuned for it.

Nothing really new to update. Once race season is over, the car will be worked on. There is one build in front of mine that is super secret and will be his first Lugtronic's ________ car. After that, I was told that he will take no other vehicles until my car is up and running. I'm guessing it will be done next spring. I won't get my hopes up since the car has been down for several years and a couple more months won't hurt me.

Picked up a few pieces for the car. I have a new VC that I'm waiting to get back from a friend so I can PC it. Will have a few parts up for sale. I.E a RAI Custom FMIC, AEM W/M kit, PC AEB VC and a few small parts. This will be my last update until progress is made.

Take care all.

revolution337
10-07-2013, 09:29 AM
yay go steve!

p.s. you get a new starter yet? lol

viceprp
07-20-2014, 06:38 PM
She lives.

Seerlah
07-20-2014, 06:41 PM
Holy Sh*t. Thought you abandoned us...and your car [:p]

viceprp
07-21-2014, 01:21 AM
No, just been busy working on her the past few days. Cars first start up was Friday, first time driving her after 3 years was down a track at Waterfest. Ill post up something a bit more descriptive later. Still lots of work but she runs.

Seerlah
07-21-2014, 05:16 PM
I missed WF this year. Car was on downtime yet again. Should be back up and running this weekend. I still have your number saved if you are going to H20 this year. My condo is already booked. We can do a B5 A4 meet, as I'm more than sure others would be down. We may be bottom of the totem pole, but we mod with style and class. Person I am staying with also has a B5 A4. He does not post on here (like at all), but has a GTX3071R on meth at over 400whp. Make me feel ashamed when he walks me [:(]

viceprp
07-22-2014, 01:56 AM
Idk if I'll be going to H2o this year. I have yet to go and I'm hooked on making this a drag car/weekend car. If I had to guess, she feels like a low 300whp car with much more to come. I pulled the W/M Pump and controller. Next is to take the washer reservoir out and put a stock one in since the low level sensor is epoxied in this one, terribly I might add. E85 to come after the 93 street tune is buttoned up.

Having brake issues but I'm hoping to have that squared away soon. Need a new tag since I somehow lost her in the years of sitting. ..

I had some issues at the track: brakes were my major issue and going from a full to pro tree during elimination rounds was another. The car is no where near is potential and needs major TLC once it's road worthy. I was the guy running 14.2 @ 107 with the terrible 2.7 60' (got her down to 2.0). My last round I blew off an intercooler hose at the TB at the top of 3rd and my 1-2 shift cased my hazard trim and entire Headunit fly out. Haha so my 2-3 shift was a complete flop. (14.8 @86)

I'll post slips, a more descriptive track day analysis and the break down of prior events. Everyone likes pictures

Wet0willy01
07-23-2014, 02:43 PM
You need a stock washer bottle too? You need a Lancaster parts run. I have that as well.

viceprp
07-24-2014, 01:15 AM
Yessir.

Brake booster, washer tank, hazard trim, and B6 intake plastics.

Gaberossi
07-24-2014, 07:28 AM
My last round I blew off an intercooler hose at the TB at the top of 3rd and my 1-2 shift cased my hazard trim and entire Headunit fly out. Haha so my 2-3 shift was a complete flop. (14.8 @86)


Happens every time I go to the track. I now remove the whole radio and trim or else it falls on my shifter. LOL .....you know what sucks, my best 60' was a 1.7 but the radio fell out when I shifted into 2nd with the slicks and it hooked hard, really hard then I couldn't get into 3rd and my run was shit...easily an 11.9 run(this was before I went e85)

edit: Shifted*

viceprp
08-13-2014, 07:06 PM
165
155
155
0

That is all.

Gumby
08-13-2014, 07:28 PM
That... Sucks. Have you started diagnosing the cause?

viceprp
08-13-2014, 07:36 PM
Not jumping to conclusions but I'll have to see what the VEMS logged. IT probably didn't help that I did WOT 2-4 on a rough tune. Well I plan on changing a few parts while I'm in there.

I'm thinking abs & ac delete. Clean up the bay, source anther AEB manifold, OBII vr6 TB. Need a stock 058 piston. I'm planning on a 2.0 stroker down the road so this will have to do for now.

viceprp
08-20-2014, 01:55 AM
Laundry list of parts are accumulating. I'm listing them here for a reminder since I work 10-12hrs and wrench afterwards. I hardly spend much time at home, besides sleeping.

Coolant flange on the back of the head
Coolant flange on the 058 block
Passenger side transmission bracket
Water pump
Head gasket
OEM head bolts (for now)
Oil pan gasket
Rod bearings (possibly)
Piston rings
IM gasket
Exhaust manifold gasket
AEB IM
OBII VR6 TB
B5 DBC cable
Adapter Plate AEB ->VR6 TB
Solid rear diff mount
AWE subframe support

Engine was torn out yesterday and of course I found more broken pieces. If it weren't for some of the parts, it would be finished for the weekend. Hoping all parts come in or are found by next week. Would be nice to send her down the track and get more seat time. Missing MIR this weekend but atleast she will be more solid after this phase.

Inj 4 will be moved to inj 1 so if it melts a piston, I know it's inj problems and it's easily fixed

chris164935
08-20-2014, 10:25 AM
If you suspect a bad injector, why not send it off to the manufacturer or someone who can test/repair it? Would definitely be easier to fix (not to mention cheaper) than seeing if the problem goes to cylinder #1.
My guess is the tune wasn't good enough yet. I had similar issues with a rough tune on my car a LONG time ago. We thought maybe too much air was being forced into cylinder #4 by the stock intake manifold versus the amount of air the other cylinders were getting, because both times cylinder #4 was destroyed but everything else was still in great shape. A better tune would definitely be able to compensate for this theory...

viceprp
08-21-2014, 03:14 AM
Kevin looked over the tune and everything checked out on point. Nothing leaned out and if anything was a bit rich. My EGT sensors aren't wired in yet on each runner so we couldn't see those logs but it's a stock piston with new OEM rings that had 160k on them. The throttle did stick at WOT FOR 5 seconds in neural, bouncing off the 7800 rev limit (cable issue). I'm racing next weekend so um swapping parts and moving on. If it happens again, I can swap out parts much quicker. I look at this all as practice bc I know one day I will be doing it at the track with less tools. I have picture but my iPhone - photobucket upload brings up an error.

revolution337
08-21-2014, 02:29 PM
I'm almost positive I have a spare trans mount bracket(s) out in my garage. Get your ass over here and come get it :)

viceprp
08-21-2014, 06:04 PM
Right on, Mark. I'll send you some pictures of my arrival..

viceprp
09-21-2014, 07:19 PM
She's running again.

ABS delete coming soon. Some new PC parts on. OBDII VR6 TB installed. 034 track rear diff mount is in.

That is all for now. Oh, sold the B6 and bought a truck.

lorge1989
09-24-2014, 10:31 AM
We need some moar pics. Glad to hear its up and running again!

viceprp
09-24-2014, 07:32 PM
Let's take a trip down memory lane:
AEM Cluster Fuck
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/238591B7-984E-45CD-8750-C4B74156C62C_zpsckzfpds2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/238591B7-984E-45CD-8750-C4B74156C62C_zpsckzfpds2.jpg.html)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/E5D9437D-BED1-4E49-A21A-4304F7F7F650_zps7s2aliaa.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/E5D9437D-BED1-4E49-A21A-4304F7F7F650_zps7s2aliaa.jpg.html)

Lugtronic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/9FDEDAAB-33B5-4148-B545-43F7AE0CD38C_zpsp7tlqtng.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/9FDEDAAB-33B5-4148-B545-43F7AE0CD38C_zpsp7tlqtng.jpg.html)
How she sits now. Still more deleting and cleaning to do.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/07535F36-A38C-4547-8076-5507E185E5F2_zpsw55aazoz.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/07535F36-A38C-4547-8076-5507E185E5F2_zpsw55aazoz.jpg.html)
I do have a plumbing clearing issue so I might get 2.5" made for the passenger side and 3" on the driver side.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/4DD49D20-025E-41B1-A676-F17EF44E3F0A_zpstusnhti2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/4DD49D20-025E-41B1-A676-F17EF44E3F0A_zpstusnhti2.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/5D90939E-26BE-4E94-A261-AADC4B530E53_zpsqzebpfod.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/5D90939E-26BE-4E94-A261-AADC4B530E53_zpsqzebpfod.jpg.html)
WF20:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/AFBBCAF0-782F-4967-B054-95D654D21DA3_zpsu3jtjobe.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/AFBBCAF0-782F-4967-B054-95D654D21DA3_zpsu3jtjobe.jpg.html)
Intercooler coupler popped off on my elim run.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/7D20C441-3B2A-4048-90F3-EC8CEA57D8B0_zpszikpspqn.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/7D20C441-3B2A-4048-90F3-EC8CEA57D8B0_zpszikpspqn.jpg.html)
Grilling chicken and NY Strips.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/3DE6DA1F-5DB6-4570-8FC3-239DD10C5D7D_zpscodolt0s.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/3DE6DA1F-5DB6-4570-8FC3-239DD10C5D7D_zpscodolt0s.jpg.html)

WESLIFE
09-25-2014, 09:31 AM
I'm glad to see your car back together. Hopefully it will stay running perfect and I hope you accomplish everything you want to do with it in the near future.

viceprp
09-25-2014, 12:17 PM
Picking up a 06a bare block for $50. I plan on building a 2.0 stroker motor and building the ATW heads. Will sell my drop in rod motor and stock heads w/fx400 clutch kit as a package deal. HTA 3076 or the largest Precision they offer in the 30r size will be my next setup.

Full weight 30r 1/4 mile record is my goal. (Stock trans, full interior, ect)

Cactus Avant
09-28-2014, 01:10 PM
Engine by looks 1000x better, keep it up [up]

viceprp
10-01-2014, 03:21 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/C77C850A-2590-42AD-A5D3-FB04584B346E_zpsax7tcmwg.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/C77C850A-2590-42AD-A5D3-FB04584B346E_zpsax7tcmwg.jpg.html)

lorge1989
10-02-2014, 04:53 AM
Picking up a 06a bare block for $50. I plan on building a 2.0 stroker motor and building the ATW heads. Will sell my drop in rod motor and stock heads w/fx400 clutch kit as a package deal. HTA 3076 or the largest Precision they offer in the 30r size will be my next setup.

Full weight 30r 1/4 mile record is my goal. (Stock trans, full interior, ect)
Whats the record now?

viceprp
10-02-2014, 12:01 PM
Fastest Quattro looks to be 12.0 @119. FWD can be much faster on slicks. Gab should see 11's on his setup.

viceprp
10-06-2014, 03:49 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/094706F9-70CF-46F5-A396-6D799E9CBE61_zpszmplwh9h.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/094706F9-70CF-46F5-A396-6D799E9CBE61_zpszmplwh9h.jpg.html)
She runs but needs new IAT plug wired. Was running a GM sensor but back to a A4. Runs rich but that will be tuned out. ABS is deleted and need an idle tune to reroute and button up.

Gumby
10-06-2014, 08:25 AM
Any pictures of how you did the abs delete?

The car is looking great. I'm really happy to see this build making some serious progress after so long. I bet it feels great to be driving it finally.

viceprp
10-06-2014, 02:10 PM
I only felt 18lbs and still was come cleaning up to do in the tune to make more power at that level. It was a whole new animal from a K03 -> 3 year wait -> 3076. Lol

The abs fittings had to be converted to standard. Guys run ABS delete with no proportion ing valve and I did the same as well. It was 1/4" fittings ->T fitting -> 3/16" fitting. One line off the master went to the FR/FL and the other RR/RL. When I reroute, I might put a manual valve in to the rears. Time will tell. I jus wanted a quick fit to see if my brake would continue doing what they were at WF.

Wet0willy01
10-08-2014, 10:11 AM
I should post your AEM mess pics from the day I figured out all the miswired everthing.

viceprp
10-09-2014, 02:21 AM
Oh, that would be splendid. .. While we are at it, let me slit my wrist. Haha

Wet0willy01
10-09-2014, 05:25 AM
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee458/wet0willy01/2AE52C78-649C-450D-8D8C-E51589D0F661-4633-000005F30C0717DA.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/wet0willy01/media/2AE52C78-649C-450D-8D8C-E51589D0F661-4633-000005F30C0717DA.jpg.html)

viceprp
10-09-2014, 06:48 AM
Mother of God..

Crispy222
10-09-2014, 08:02 AM
The reason why I have 12 different colored spools.

viceprp
10-09-2014, 05:53 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/99A8E2F6-2538-4449-8400-96BB6CC7C450_zps9f5lwywy.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/99A8E2F6-2538-4449-8400-96BB6CC7C450_zps9f5lwywy.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/25BB4D9A-6558-4017-9CE9-7FDEAE2E25B4_zpscwg9ful2.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/25BB4D9A-6558-4017-9CE9-7FDEAE2E25B4_zpscwg9ful2.jpg.html)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/AA7D3695-FF0F-4A4B-8641-6DB3B1AA7248_zpsui32zuqx.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/AA7D3695-FF0F-4A4B-8641-6DB3B1AA7248_zpsui32zuqx.jpg.html)

Will be tuned for idle tomorrow, get the brakes squared away and .. More TLC.

viceprp
10-16-2014, 07:15 PM
Back up and running. Going to break in the motor this coming week and race next weekend. Kevin cleaned up my last tune and pulled fuel where needed. It'll make more power now than what it did at WF at the same boost level.

She is street legal, tuned (more to come) and brakes are working well with the abs delete.

Gumby
10-16-2014, 07:31 PM
Nice. Good to hear.

Did you do a brake proportioning valve on the rear brakes?

terraflata
10-16-2014, 08:47 PM
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee458/wet0willy01/2AE52C78-649C-450D-8D8C-E51589D0F661-4633-000005F30C0717DA.jpg (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/wet0willy01/media/2AE52C78-649C-450D-8D8C-E51589D0F661-4633-000005F30C0717DA.jpg.html)

LOL Thats my mess now [>_<]

viceprp
10-17-2014, 01:46 AM
No proportioning valve yet. I slammed the brakes several times yesterday in the rain without them locking up. Not saying it wouldn't happen at highway speeds in emergency conditions so We will be putting one in when we reroute my lines. Just for good measure.

viceprp
10-30-2014, 04:43 AM
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figured I would change my oil while at it ..

viceprp
11-01-2014, 06:48 PM
Well, FW bolts backed out sending the crank on a fun run. 1 & 3 main bears are shot, #4 rod bearing is showing wear, crank gear broke, and FW bolt was stripped. Only 1/6 held.

Main bearings
Rod bearings
HG kit
FW bolts
AEB & ATW IM gasket
Crank cam gear

All on the way. Should be together next week. I'm out of town next weekend but I might run my car at Beaver the following weekend.

WESLIFE
11-02-2014, 11:02 AM
Well, FW bolts backed out sending the crank on a fun run. 1 & 3 main bears are shot, #4 rod bearing is showing wear, crank gear broke, and FW bolt was stripped. Only 1/6 held.

Main bearings
Rod bearings
HG kit
FW bolts
AEB & ATW IM gasket
Crank cam gear

All on the way. Should be together next week. I'm out of town next weekend but I might run my car at Beaver the following weekend.

Dude, I think you need to hire a real mechanic to fix your car before you completely destroy it.

viceprp
11-02-2014, 11:54 AM
LOL, cute. How about you hold my hand and show me the ropes since behind the camera you have learned so much.

Audifurdasleben
11-02-2014, 09:47 PM
Dude, I think you need to hire a real mechanic to fix your car before you completely destroy it.

News flash asshole, for some people its about building it themselves, trial and error is part of the proccess, how do you think most mechanics learn...

vrmm
11-04-2014, 12:58 AM
Did you use loctite on your fw bolts? I'm putting my engine in currently. You have me paranoid! Do you remember what you torqued them to?

viceprp
11-04-2014, 02:55 AM
Torque is 44lbs with 90* turn but I went beyond with blue locktite. I might ado that I reused the FW bolts, which is a big no no. $20 now cost me $200. Oh well. All the parts list carnage is from the FW bolts backing out.

I have new bolts on the way and I'll be damn ed if I don't race on the 15th. I'm using red locktite this time. You only need the small bottle that costs $7.

I wouldn't be paranoid, this was my own doing. Still waiting on main bearings, crank gear bolt, and FW bolts. Car will be running Sunday once I return from camp.

viceprp
11-12-2014, 05:05 AM
Mike Hood sent me out bolts and I received them Monday. I had time yesterday to put the motor in and get the car running. Fired up on the firstop try after cranking the the inj unplugged for 10 seconds. Purrs like a kitten.

I'll finish putting the car together today and go for a test drive. Then I'll change the oil and get her ready for next weekend. Hoping to get a 1/4 mile event before it snows.

This time around I did the clutch fan delete, snub mount removal and used proper FW bolts with red locktite.

More tuning coming along in the near future.

viceprp
11-15-2014, 01:09 PM
Melted cyl 4 piston, in route to buy another motor. That is all.

WESLIFE
11-15-2014, 05:57 PM
Melted cyl 4 piston, in route to buy another motor. That is all.

Dude, I know you don't like I, but I don't lie. Please put your car in a real mechanics hands as I did by allowing fastestaudiwagon to build my car. He is in the process of building my car now. A picture of it is on his instagram @fastestaudiwagon. You need help and I am trying to point you in the right direction.

viceprp
11-16-2014, 12:26 PM
Explain to me how a mechanic is going to fix my problem. These are stock pistons with detonation on the exhaust valve side. The head will get some TLC but it looks good. The labor for a shop to build would cost as much as 3 motor rebuilds, if not more.
It's not the inj wiring, we swapped inj 4 with 1, and inspected the fuel rail to see if the feed fitting was restrictions flow.. the build this time around will be getting a bit more TLC. It's not like I don't have a certified mechanic standing next to me, or a tuner who knows his shit. Why pay when I can live and learn. Just bc you gave up, doesn't mean I'm the kind of person to follow your foot steps. It's a very odd problem. This motor will be built before the weekend, long as parts come in fast enough.

The motor blew the same exact way as last time. 4th gear pull to 6000rpm, poof. AFR was 11.4, Duty cycle at 51%, drove without a misfire, 18lbs and 15* timing. Obviously, cyl 4 isnt running 11.4 or I wouldn't have this problem.

If someone has something constructive to say, please feel free. Each part I touch is torqued to spec, this is a fuel/air flow issue .

Wet0willy01
11-16-2014, 01:55 PM
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M-Hood
11-17-2014, 08:48 AM
Explain to me how a mechanic is going to fix my problem. These are stock pistons with detonation on the exhaust valve side. The head will get some TLC but it looks good. The labor for a shop to build would cost as much as 3 motor rebuilds, if not more.
It's not the inj wiring, we swapped inj 4 with 1, and inspected the fuel rail to see if the feed fitting was restrictions flow.. the build this time around will be getting a bit more TLC. It's not like I don't have a certified mechanic standing next to me, or a tuner who knows his shit. Why pay when I can live and learn. Just bc you gave up, doesn't mean I'm the kind of person to follow your foot steps. It's a very odd problem. This motor will be built before the weekend, long as parts come in fast enough.

The motor blew the same exact way as last time. 4th gear pull to 6000rpm, poof. AFR was 11.4, Duty cycle at 51%, drove without a misfire, 18lbs and 15* timing. Obviously, cyl 4 isnt running 11.4 or I wouldn't have this problem.

If someone has something constructive to say, please feel free. Each part I touch is torqued to spec, this is a fuel/air flow issue .



Might consider putting a EGT gauge in the car with the sensor placed so that it can read the exhaust gas coming out of cylinder #4.

Gaberossi
11-17-2014, 08:53 AM
Hopefully the car is back on the road soon man! There's always a few bumps in the road but it all works out in the end.

viceprp
11-18-2014, 05:50 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/20141118_195400_zpslzeinwys.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141118_195400_zpslzeinwys.jpg.html)http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/20141118_195429_zps3tsb69oi.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141118_195429_zps3tsb69oi.jpg.html)http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/viceprp/Mobile%20Uploads/20141118_200600_zps7z7cmnad.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/viceprp/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20141118_200600_zps7z7cmnad.jpg.html)
latest motor tear down.. first piston is current and the second was the first melt down.

chris164935
11-19-2014, 12:20 AM
That looks vaguely familiar. Lol.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f260/chris164935/pic13.jpg

viceprp
11-19-2014, 03:31 AM
Blood brothers.

I bought a "good" bottom end to swap parts. I tore it down right away and ended up having a broken IM shaft, bend rod (that was melted to the crank, and a chunk missing out of the cyl wall. I spun the motor several times and never noticed anything. No wonder, crank was trash as well. Took the aeb pistons out, to possibly swap, and noticed all wrist pin had worn oblong into the sleeve.

viceprp
12-23-2014, 10:59 AM
Cars been running correct some time now. I haven't been able to finish installing g the bumper. Literally that's all that needs done. Just down on my luck lately.

2015 plans:
wire secondary rad fan to kick on when coolant temp rises. Using the stock fan. Start building a spare head and I'll swap once this head blows. Goal is to hit low 12s on a stock head.

Seerlah
12-23-2014, 01:18 PM
All I can say is...wow!!! That's a disaster waiting to happen.

-use rolled edge clamps (only see one fuel injection clamp, but they do have worm clamps with rolled edges out there and what I placed on my in-tank pump lines)
-there will be pressure loss on that brass barb to AN hose end fitting adapter (guranteed leak)
-sure hope proper fuel hose was used, otherwise it will turn to mush (literally) eventually. I suspect the fuel hose to rip and burst first though, due to the clamps used.


http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee458/wet0willy01/Screenshot_2014-11-16-16-49-03_zpscdmdqdhb.png (http://s1228.photobucket.com/user/wet0willy01/media/Screenshot_2014-11-16-16-49-03_zpscdmdqdhb.png.html)

Good to hear Steve.

Also, may have you redo my driveway one day if you are willing [;)]. You could stay right at my house so not a big deal for traveling expenses. Then right outside for work. If...you are interested. Many moons from now, though.

WESLIFE
12-23-2014, 03:28 PM
All I can say is...wow!!! That's a disaster waiting to happen.

-use rolled edge clamps (only see one fuel injection clamp, but they do have worm clamps with rolled edges out there and what I placed on my in-tank pump lines)
-there will be pressure loss on that brass barb to AN hose end fitting adapter (guranteed leak)
-sure hope proper fuel hose was used, otherwise it will turn to mush (literally) eventually. I suspect the fuel hose to rip and burst first though, due to the clamps used.



Good to hear Steve.

Also, may have you redo my driveway one day if you are willing [;)]. You could stay right at my house so not a big deal for traveling expenses. Then right outside for work. If...you are interested. Many moons from now, though.
Dude, do you have any proof to back any of facts that you have just stated?

Also, this car has been running for over 5 years without a fueling problem and over a year with the double fuel pump setup without any problems.

By the way did you ever get your car running properly?

ray4624
12-23-2014, 03:39 PM
literally every post you make is confrontational.
You werent loved as a child i guess...its ok

Also..regular hose deteriorates when in the presence of fuel. That is just a fact.
some cheap hose clamps have sharp edges that can cut fuel line when overtightened or when on an angle. (i have had this happen and a few friends have mentioned it to me as well)
If it works then good for him. There are specific efi fuel clamps for a reason i suppose...or maybe not...who knows

WESLIFE
12-23-2014, 03:56 PM
literally every post you make is confrontational.
You werent loved as a child i guess...its ok

Also..regular hose deteriorates when in the presence of fuel. That is just a fact.
some cheap hose clamps have sharp edges that can cut fuel line when overtightened or when on an angle. (i have had this happen and a few friends have mentioned it to me as well)
If it works then good for him. There are specific efi fuel clamps for a reason i suppose...or maybe not...who knows

Being loved has nothing to do with the way I respond to people who clearly do not have as much experience with what works best for my car, especially when they have cars that haven't been running for 12 months straight without problems that have left their cars down for weeks. The dude Seerlah , clearly was trying to discredit my friends fuel setup in hopes of making viceprp feel good. I'm not worried about the clamps not doing it's job. I'm more concerned about the what Seerlah said about the brass barb/AN fitting losing pressure. What would make him think that?

ray4624
12-23-2014, 04:05 PM
i can see your point. Didnt see the spot on the barb.
Ive had decent luck with AN..even the make your own shit.
Still sticking with what i said on the correct fuel line and clamps wouldnt hurt. Especially with how cheap the "correct" parts would be.

I thought that was viceprp's instagram lol

Seerlah
12-23-2014, 04:06 PM
Dude, do you have any proof to back any of facts that you have just stated?

Also, this car has been running for over 5 years without a fueling problem and over a year with the double fuel pump setup without any problems.

By the way did you ever get your car running properly?

Not trying to get at you at all, so please don't take it that way. Not trying to stir anything up, just so we make this point clear [cool]

The reason you won't notice any significant pressure loss is because you simply won't notice it, especially with dual pumps. It will no doubt provide adequate fuel pressure...but that's not to say you aren't losing pressure. It won't be substantial to the point he won't have adequate pressure in the least. But say you are doing something to max out those pumps (doubtful, as I assume ample flowing units were placed in and it would be hard to max out two of them), then you would notice it.

I know you are no novice when it comes to tinkering with cars (I am led to believe you and fastesaudiwagon are the same person), so you know how easy it is to create a fuel leak. With that setup already in the tank, no way to actually see the leak when running unless tested outside the car before placing in. But really, who has time for that?

With those straight edge worm clamps, they basically cut into the rubber fuel line. That is why they have rolled edge clamps to begin with, in ones "specifically designed" for fueling for perfect example. Because...it happens. An easy test to prove or disprove my "theory". Take the pumps with baskets out the tank. Bet you they are no longer how they looked pictured above. Could be wrong and you dodged the bullet all the years. Or could be right.

As for my car, it has been running really smooth (actually kind of scary, as it never ran so well stock, stage one with bolt ons, etc. except a CEL or something...but nothing. you own a VAG car so you understand. CEL at least once every couple months is sort of obligatory to ownership. haha). Thanks for asking! Been daily driving it for a while now, h20 and back, etc. Basically fixed all the hiccups and been smooth ever since. Real issue was with Garrett and PSi Concept. As soon as I ditched both of them, all my problems went away. Kept trying to fix something that didn't want to be fixed.

And not to thread jack, but may I inquire about your setup? Must be a monster if you require a dual pump setup.

And for future reference, GEMI rolled edge worm clamps are what I was referring to. If you don't know about them, now you do [;)]. OEM on some Mercedes applications. Better than standard worm clamps in every aspect. Have various sizes in my garage. I suggest you stock up. Just really good to have around.

http://www.germanautoparts.com/Mercedes/1958/3171/4/11573/0


Being loved has nothing to do with the way I respond to people who clearly do not have as much experience with what works best for my car, especially when they have cars that haven't been running for 12 months straight without problems that have left their cars down for weeks. The dude Sheila , clearly was trying to discredit my friends fuel setup in hopes of making viceprp feel good. I'm not worried about the clamps not doing it's job. I'm more concerned about the what Sheila said about the brass barb/AN fitting losing pressure. What would make him think that?

Holy crap. Far from the truth. I don't take sides on this forum board, nor belittle people. Others may do and I sit back, read and have a good laugh (B5 S4 ones with FAW are the best), but it is rather childish to do so. Same as picking the "cool guy/crowd" to side with. I could care less.

And it's not Sheila. It's Seerlah. Name has a meaning.

WESLIFE
12-23-2014, 04:22 PM
Not trying to get at you at all, so please don't take it that way. Not trying to stir anything up, just so we make this point clear [cool]

The reason you won't notice any significant 9pressure loss is because you simply won't notice it, especially with dual pumps. It will no doubt provide adequate fuel pressure...but that's not to say you aren't losing pressure. It won't be substantial to the point he won't have adequate pressure in the least. But say you are doing something to max out those pumps (doubtful, as I assume ample flowing units were placed in and it would be hard to max out two of them), then you would notice it.

I know you are no novice when it comes to tinkering with cars (I am led to believe you and fastesaudiwagon are the same person), so you know how easy it is to create a fuel leak. With that setup already in the tank, no way to actually see the leak when running unless tested outside the car before placing in. But really, who has time for that?

With those straight edge worm clamps, they basically cut into the rubber fuel line. That is why they have rolled edge clamps to begin with, in ones "specifically designed" for fueling for perfect example. Because...it happens. An easy test to prove or disprove my "theory". Take the pumps with baskets out the tank. Bet you they are no longer how they looked pictured above. Could be wrong and you dodged the bullet all the years. Or could be right.

As for my car, it has been running really smooth (actually kind of scary, as it never ran so well stock, stage one with bolt ons, etc. except a CEL or something...but nothing. you own a VAG car so you understand. CEL at least once every couple months is sort of obligatory to ownership. haha). Thanks for asking! Been daily driving it for a while now, h20 and back, etc. Basically fixed all the hiccups and been smooth ever since. Real issue was with Garrett and PSi Concept. As soon as I ditched both of them, all my problems went away. Kept trying to fix something that didn't want to be fixed.

And not to thread jack, but may I inquire about your setup? Must be a monster if you require a dual pump setup.

And for future reference, GEMI rolled edge worm clamps are what I was referring to. If you don't know about them, now you do [;)]. OEM on some Mercedes applications. Better than standard worm clamps in every aspect. Have various sizes in my garage. I suggest you stock up. Just really good to have around.

http://www.germanautoparts.com/Mercedes/1958/3171/4/11573/0
Please forgive me for my previous post. I want to apologize for going a little overboard.

I also have experienced clamps cutting into the lines from over tightening. In the above picture, the clamps weren't needed, so I my friend didn't tighten them too much. They were mainly used for safety(to keep the hose snug). Just incase the e85 decided to loosen up the hose from the brass barb fitting.

Seerlah
12-23-2014, 04:27 PM
Please forgive me for my previous post. I want to apologize for going a little overboard.

I also have experienced clamps cutting into the lines from over tightening. In the above picture, the clamps weren't needed, so I my friend didn't tighten them too much. They were mainly used for safety(to keep the hose snug). Just incase the e85 decided to loosen up the hose from the brass barb fitting.

No problem! For safety measures, you could always use the Gemi worm clamps on your current fuel setup if you chose. Would just be comforting to know everything was secure. Plus you would have a valid reason to actually go in there (securing more and checking) to see how things were/are holding up. Better to know than to not.

And I edited my post above. Think you had me confused for a cliche.

viceprp
12-24-2014, 07:44 AM
Wow, my page has been very active overnight lol.

Mitch, I would need to bring my father's fleet of vehicles to make it work out. It's a heft diesel bill towing 10k lol. But I am a one many army when it comes to concrete. If only my knowledge of that was equal to mechanics. Ha, one day maybe.

I don't mind my crap breaking down. As much as I would love it to stay together, there are just too many weak points on my car that I know need upgrading. But I want to see where they break and upgrade from there.

Building a spare heaD this season is a must. This isn't a DD and I have other vehicles at my dispense so time down isn't a problem. I will also be looking for a clutch bc my 228mm fx400 won't last long to the abuse, even with less than 4k miles on it.

viceprp
01-28-2015, 09:14 AM
Update:
Since I no longer run AC, I will have Kevin rewire the Aux fan to cool whenever my coolant reaches a certain temp. I ran the car hard the other day and held up well. Last time I did 2 4th gear pulls, it melted cyl 4. With the coolant ports cleared, it seems to have held up several 2-4 gear pulls.

I have videos but they are in a little bit of traffic so it's not worth sharing bad habits. Even though it's only 18lbs and 15* of timing, she really pulls. I would say it's 320whp but Kev is confident is upwards of 340whp. Anyhow, once the wiring is finished and the interior is back together, I'll worry about tuning. While in FL, Kyle cut my odometer wire so that will need found/ reconnected so I can put an rpm to the sound.


I started the car up in single digits and not a hiccup occured. I'm really happy with the tune so far and if it weren't for the clogged port, I wouldn't have built my motor twice.

That is all.

Seerlah
01-28-2015, 02:37 PM
Sucks, but nice to see things are now working out for you. Trust me when I say I know about bullsh*t when building. But my issues weren't nearly as close of an issue as yours was. Mine was the turbo and manifold (kept trying to fix something that simply didn't want to be fixed). Ditched both and have been smooth sailing since.

viceprp
05-14-2015, 02:28 AM
WESLIFE is my little social butterfly.

Ran the car a few weeks back to come home to a lobe. Didn't touch her for weeks until a few days ago. Nothing too serious, leaking vc filled cyl 2 with oil. Soaked what I could up before pulling the spark plug. Going to throw new NGK 9's in when I install the new VCG. After that, I have a busy few weeks to get my car for IREV.

93 oct yield me a 14.2 @107 for my best run.. with a 2.7 60'. Let's hope more seat time and E85 will allow me to be more competitive in the 12.00 index. I also have more up my sleeve but I don't want to jinx myself.

Local E85 pump tested at E90.

M-Hood
05-14-2015, 06:52 AM
WESLIFE is my little social butterfly.

Ran the car a few weeks back to come home to a lobe. Didn't touch her for weeks until a few days ago. Nothing too serious, leaking vc filled cyl 2 with oil. Soaked what I could up before pulling the spark plug. Going to throw new NGK 9's in when I install the new VCG. After that, I have a busy few weeks to get my car for IREV.

93 oct yield me a 14.2 @107 for my best run.. with a 2.7 60'. Let's hope more seat time and E85 will allow me to be more competitive in the 12.00 index. I also have more up my sleeve but I don't want to jinx myself.

Local E85 pump tested at E90.

NGK 9's. Why such a cold plug and isn't that way too cold of a plug for E85 that already runs cooler cylinder temps?

Seerlah
05-14-2015, 07:53 AM
Interesting thing happened to me over the winter. I was tuned on fr5dtc plugs and tsi coils. Switched the f6dtc plugs for the winter. Kept blowing coils randomly only when pushing my car hard. Didn't dawn on me that didn't start blowing then till after the plug swap. Placed the fr5dtc plugs back in with r8 coils and been fine since. Basically, choose a plug wisely on what you tune with because you may have an issue similar to mine if you ever wanted to try out a different plug.

viceprp
05-14-2015, 03:35 PM
I'll do a compression check as well once I have parts but I don't argue with my tuner. The car runs like butter. I'm not about to change what is working beautifully. I'm also running bosch 2x2 pencil coil. Tested and proven at over 800 whp on the 1.8T.

Urtorsen
05-18-2015, 01:43 AM
I'll do a compression check as well once I have parts but I don't argue with my tuner. The car runs like butter. I'm not about to change what is working beautifully. I'm also running bosch 2x2 pencil coil. Tested and proven at over 800 whp on the 1.8T.
Did you mention to Kevin that a fellow B5 guy is looking for some follow up support!??didnt hear anything back from him since last pm I sent you [emoji106] car runs good just wanted him to check it all out.

viceprp
05-18-2015, 03:18 AM
I'll get on him when I see him. I got a crash course on VEMS this weekend with my buddies new VR setup. It's going to hit 9's this year, for sure.

Urtorsen
05-18-2015, 03:25 PM
It's a very user friendly system. I really need some time to try and get dialing in the knock detect and control. Also wanted to get that Vems round gauge.

viceprp
06-27-2015, 10:03 AM
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90

I've known this for months, just busy with work and recent dislocated shoulder. I can't wrench on the car to see what it is.