View Full Version : Thinking of buying sport springs, thoughts?
schnell
03-19-2012, 09:23 AM
I'm thinking about purchasing http://www.awe-tuning.com/products/audi-1/a4/a4-2005-5-08/2-0t/awe-hrsportsprings-116.html I was told this is all I need to go lower. I really like the idea of going lower, and these seem to be a good brand. Thoughts?
Thanks
Rodmar
03-19-2012, 09:27 AM
I'm no expert but what combo you thinking of doing or just the springs?
smarkle78
03-19-2012, 09:28 AM
i ALWAYS LIKE A 2" MIN ON LOWERING.....COVERS WHEELS NICE IF YOU HAVE 18'S
Rodmar
03-19-2012, 09:29 AM
Where in MN are ya just noticed that
mr shickadance
03-19-2012, 09:29 AM
fwiw, if i had to do it all again, i would go springs instead of coils, then again, i never really wanted to go static low, and i did not care/ever adjust my ride height for winter or anything, i could have just gpottan springs and saved myself monies
Rodmar
03-19-2012, 09:31 AM
fwiw, if i had to do it all again, i would go springs instead of coils, then again, i never really wanted to go static low, and i did not care/ever adjust my ride height for winter or anything, i could have just gpottan springs and saved myself monies
Here's the question....What about 750$ for some ST Coilovers over a 500 to 750$ spring/shock combo tho? What would you do, thinking about lowering soon myself.
schnell
03-19-2012, 09:36 AM
Where in MN are ya just noticed that
Edina, MN
Rodmar
03-19-2012, 09:39 AM
bout 3 hours away from me lol
rongeur
03-19-2012, 09:51 AM
I would hesitate on just doing lowering springs, it will get you there but likely shorted your (presumed) stock absorbers life. To do it correctly your should get a spring shock combo that are paired for eachother (einbach/koni FSD for example). But once you are there you might as well go for the ST coils as people here seems to love them. Good price/performance tradeoff. As for me, I am currently on audi sport suspension, but will be going C/O eventually as I like the idea of setting my height instead of just accepting what I get.
mr shickadance
03-19-2012, 09:57 AM
Here's the question....What about 750$ for some ST Coilovers over a 500 to 750$ spring/shock combo tho? What would you do, thinking about lowering soon myself.
self explanitory
ST Coils = Lowest end coil over option
koni FSD Spring/shock combo = Mid/high level spring combo
same effect/price (if lowering conservatively) but will better parts with the spring shock option imo
tankdeer
03-19-2012, 10:21 AM
self explanitory
ST Coils = Lowest end coil over option
koni FSD Spring/shock combo = Mid/high level spring combo
same effect/price (if lowering conservatively) but will better parts with the spring shock option imo
Would you consider KW V1's the lowest end coilover? Because they are the same thing as ST's. Both made by KW. Literally the only difference is that the KW's have stainless shock bodies.
mr shickadance
03-19-2012, 10:53 AM
essentially they are the same thing i guess in terms of damper oil, spring rate and things like that, but stainless steel vs the galvanized stuff would be an improvement, so technically they are different in that the st's are lower than the v1's but i see the point you are trying to make.
and with regards to that point, the v1's are the lowest end of the KW family, compared with the v1, v2 and v3
i'm not trying to denote the value of a coil over set up....the advantages are clear and simple, coils give you the adjustability of ride height (other coils allow you to modify almost everything on them but for now, lets compare the v1's to the spring/shock combo)
essentially you have the bottom of the line (KW's product line) against a mid grade/top of the line (don't know too much about the koni FSD kit) cup kit, i would imagine that the cup kit would have better internals than the KW V1
for the average joe who just wants coils to lower thier car and really does not care about the adjustability of the fact, i would choose the cup kit....this is coming from someone who used to run coils, it's one of the mods i would have an undone....except instead of undoing, i just wish i was a little bit smarter with my decision.
tankdeer
03-19-2012, 10:59 AM
Well true that stainless is better than galvanized, but from looking at pics the FSDs are painted, so I doubt they're stainless either. I don't know that we can argue the internals of one shock vs another without actually knowing anything about them. Honestly based on the price points between the two I would have to guess that the internals are probably on par with each other quality wise. To me the biggest advantage of coilovers vs springs is not the ability to change the height down the road (because lets face it most of us set it and forget it). But the ability to find tune your ride height to exactly where you want it. Vs with springs in which you just get what you get. Not saying anything is wrong with springs as I've had them before and didn't have any issues with them. Just stating my preference.
mr shickadance
03-19-2012, 11:25 AM
the fsd's don't need to be SS, for coils, its a much better idea, SS is resistant to rusting where the benefit is that when a thread starts to rust, the ride height adjustability starts to become more of a permant thing as the rust gets worse. easy to overcome with some grease and what not but the FSD shocks would not see any benefit to being SS is all im saying
the adjustability of a CO is great, i'm just saying in my personal expeirence i set it and forgot about it, i think if the height was up or down a cm i realy would not be all that upset. it's a personal preference thing for sure.
the only thing i disagree with you on is that you think that the price point being the same would mean that the internals would be the same (again, we both don't know much about the internals so everything i say from this point on is just educated guessing) but i would think that the fact that they do not have to machine threads, and the height adjust ability, they would put more money into the struts.
Godfather 2.0T
03-19-2012, 11:29 AM
have same springs put them on with 50k mi now have 65k still using stock shocks not a problem so far. i think it's the perfect drop... not stupid low but gets rid of the wheel gap
B7PhiGam
03-19-2012, 04:08 PM
IMO- I have had ST Coilovers for the last year. Choice was simple. They are manufactured in Fitchenberg, Germany. Same factory as all KW shocks. I worked for Wurth, a supplier of KW in Germany for several years. The ST is the same shock as as the KW, minus stainless. Warranty is good, ride is good, price is excellent. Don't get hung up on stainless. What else under your car is stainless? The galvanized bodies are quality and will last longer than you will own the car. Springs will be cheap, shorten the life of your stock shocks and ride like sport springs. Coilovers for the same price, give you the stance you want, whether the first for tenth time you adjust them. Your ride hieigth, is your choice. You want stupid low for a show or summer weekend? You want winter 4x4?
To each his own but dont get caught up in brands and bullshit about quality when very few people here know anything beyond what they read.
I love the ST's, I am pretty low, its rides great, looks good (IMO)
http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx126/jacobdcramer/outside.jpg
Have fun choosing.
-Jake
smarkle78
03-19-2012, 04:47 PM
I disagree. They are inexpensive but not cheap. They are made to a great quality. Saying low end may lead someone to believe they can buy the VVmax and getthe same quality as the ST's. Three of us have been using for a year and love them. Installing another set this weekend......Best height variation and ride comfort for the money....WORTH EVERY PENNY