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memphis_s4
02-18-2012, 05:37 PM
After some research and after thinking about the potential benefits of an investment like this, I decided to get a dash cam. This particular model records audio and video and has built in GPS. The GPS logs speed and location and you can play back your video side by side with a map showing your route and speed. Also, it has a G- sensor and some other miscellaneous features...
I did this for a few reasons. First of all, I live in Memphis.... there are a LOT of bad drivers (many uninsured) that would surely run if they hit a car as nice as a S4. Also, there is a lot of crime in certain areas. I dont live in a bad area and I avoid them as much as possible, but crime has a way of "creeping" into the safe areas, from time to time, and you just never know. I am not paranoid, but I figure that any kind of evidence I get out of this thing is well worth the time, money, and headache fighting "your word vs mine" style with someone in court. Plus, these are not cheap cars. This is my 1st really nice car and Im a young guy. I want to protect my investment, and $200 is well worth it to me. I also did this because I am fairly novice when it comes to electrical work, so I wanted to take on a little challenge.

This camera has 2 built in modes of recording: Continuous and Impact (or something of the sorts). With the Impact mode, all it does is turn on when it detects an impact. Well, that is basically worthless because what good is the footage if you dont see the events leading up to the accident? So I keep it in continuous. HOWEVER, there is a problem with the system as a whole..... there are really only 2 ways to wire it: To a continuous power source (meaning it records constantly even with the car off unless you reach up and unplug it every time) OR to a noncontinuous power source (one that turns on with the ignition). If the camera had a motion detect feature that turned the camera on when it detected motion (or something like that) it would be ideal.

I still wanted the system to, by default, operate on a noncontinuous circuit with the ability to quickly switch it to a continuous circuit if I am in a bad part of town or for whatever reason. So I made a switch that allows me to switch from one circuit to another and it works great! So, as of right now, the camera records while I am driving. If I turn the car OFF the camera turns OFF. However, IF I am leaving my car and want to record what goes on while Im away, all I have to do is flip the switch to change it to the continuous circuit.

Once I get my windows tinted I am going to get another one for the rear of the car. Ill call it quits after that. I will probably purchase the less expensive bx-1000 for the rear.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jLPI0AmknXI/T0AP7LvPl6I/AAAAAAAAAUU/GqkVdyUzkf4/s640/P1010434.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Jc6dyMLeveg/T0AP6vhwZAI/AAAAAAAAAUA/ptuBDPzoDjA/s640/P1010433.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZOmNyqe4lRY/T0AP3bH4HYI/AAAAAAAAATI/ahkLUnfy__c/s640/P1010428.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DbGpDWENfC0/T0AP2WBJiYI/AAAAAAAAAS4/6HQZKNUF0TQ/s640/P1010427.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1TW447tggHs/T0AP2cjsc-I/AAAAAAAAATE/Qxsyx67PlXo/s640/P1010426.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8fFznmf68Hk/T0APyJtrOAI/AAAAAAAAASY/4TD2-HZoHl8/s640/P1010421.JPG

My little schematic. Im no electrician, but I think this makes sense.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IfBZeP68PGs/T0BNP__wGsI/AAAAAAAAAU4/LjfP9F_waHM/s1063/Dash+Camjpeg.jpg

EDIT: Here is a short segment from my dash cam. I purposely made a phone call to demonstrate the clarity of the audio. Afterwards, you can hear Siruis' "Area" station playing. My volume was not up loud, but with my sound focus set on DRIVER and the sensitivity of the camera it sounds pretty loud. Also, this is not the interface that you see with the software. This is AFTER I converted it to a .avi in order to share it. When you convert it you are given the options of selecting if you want sound in the video, speed, latitude and longitude, and time/date. I did all of them to show this.

Oh and, before you ask, my little maneuvering there at the end is something that I always do. I always park next to curbs, minimizing the space between my wheels and the curb, in order to stay away from other vehicles. That way, I don't have to worry as much about door dings. I am OCD like hell. If I see someone pulling in next to my car (like when im at the gym like I am in this video), I will walk over to the windows and just watch them while making the ugliest grimaces just from imagining what it would look like if they dragged their bumper down the side of my car.....While, at the same time, conjuring up any jedi powers that I may possess in order to use my mind to keep them from hitting my car. It works.


http://youtu.be/doOwh7MIeD0?hd=1

Just thought I would share this with you all.

Take care!

phillips2024
02-18-2012, 05:43 PM
hopefully you dont find yourself in a situation where you need to call on it!

whats the angle of the lens? 170* like a gopro?

RavinJetta
02-18-2012, 05:46 PM
Been looking at getting a system like this as well after seeing a post on vortex about some of the scams going around. Love how clean your install is.

Audacious
02-18-2012, 06:05 PM
Interested in seeing some video of it in action.

UmIsThisThingOn
02-18-2012, 06:24 PM
Been looking at getting a system like this as well after seeing a post on vortex about some of the scams going around. Love how clean your install is.

linky?

UmIsThisThingOn
02-18-2012, 06:31 PM
... This camera has 2 built in modes of recording: Continuous and Impact (or something of the sorts). With the Impact mode, all it does is turn on when it detects an impact. Well, that is basically worthless because what good is the footage if you dont see the events leading up to the accident? ...

If it's like other systems (DriveCam) it saves the last 20 or 30 seconds prior to the impact. From the Amazon page here:
http://www.amazon.com/SMARTY-BX1500-120-HD-Recorder/dp/B005UG2SY0


when an impact or sudden braking / acceleration are detected, it captures the 15 seconds before and the 10 seconds after the event.

I would probably keep it in continuous mode too since there are so many close calls out there.

DLAB
02-18-2012, 06:32 PM
How does it work with that SD card? You mentioned continuous recording... does that mean it keeps like a rolling 24 hours of video or something?

UmIsThisThingOn
02-18-2012, 06:38 PM
How does it work with that SD card? You mentioned continuous recording... does that mean it keeps like a rolling 24 hours of video or something?

From the Amazon page
"When the SD-card is full, there is an automatic "over-write" of data for continuous recording."

theedge111
02-18-2012, 06:40 PM
linky?

Some crazy shit went down in eastern Canada last week involving a guy with a dash cam....

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/470878-Saw-this-on-another-forum-This-is-why-I-have-a-dash-camera-%28like-this-guy-did%29

BlueHiddenSun
02-18-2012, 06:56 PM
Nice and clean setup... I would consider one of these. My wife has had a couple of run-ins with some bad drivers lately, and I wouldn't mind having something like this.

Off-Topic, what is plugged into your OBD-II socket??


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DbGpDWENfC0/T0AP2WBJiYI/AAAAAAAAAS4/6HQZKNUF0TQ/s640/P1010427.JPG

memphis_s4
02-18-2012, 07:13 PM
Interested in seeing some video of it in action.

I will upload some tomorrow!


From the Amazon page
"When the SD-card is full, there is an automatic "over-write" of data for continuous recording."
This is correct!


Nice and clean setup... I would consider one of these. My wife has had a couple of run-ins with some bad drivers lately, and I wouldn't mind having something like this.

Off-Topic, what is plugged into your OBD-II socket??

That is the P3 gauge https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-33lZA0qs2Vo/T0Bo0AhYc3I/AAAAAAAAAVE/kgH31TRZ_k4/s640/p3%2520gauge.jpg

akim_hobo
02-18-2012, 08:17 PM
I just bought this off of ebay based on some research:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BlackVue-DR400G-HD-Car-Black-Box-GPS-16GB-Power-Magic-Pro-English-Manual-/140665865562?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20c056c55a#ht_10669wt_1102

I'll let you know how it turns out in a couple weeks

memphis_s4
02-18-2012, 08:31 PM
I considered the Blackvue, but it was a bit too pricey. I thought the smarty or itronics was a good mid to high range system. The blackvue is going to be nice. Be sure to post pics.

tofuking
02-18-2012, 09:09 PM
This one is a little bigger and tackier but i think should do the job as well for much cheaper:

http://www.carcameradirect.com/index.html

Charlescrs6
02-18-2012, 09:26 PM
Do you have to use their program in order to upload the videos to your computer? I have a Mac, that's why I ask.

memphis_s4
02-18-2012, 10:40 PM
Charles,

Unfortunately, yes. I use a mac but I also have a PC at work and my gf has a PC. You can, however, run the program using "WineBottler," a windows emulator. Im just having a hard time getting the program that is being run in an emulator to recognize the SD card slot. I know there has to be a way to do it.

phillips2024
02-19-2012, 05:42 AM
http://www.spytechs.com/Car-Cameras/dual-view-cam.htm

looks good. size could be an issue

GolfGL
02-19-2012, 03:24 PM
I considered the Blackvue, but it was a bit too pricey. I thought the smarty or itronics was a good mid to high range system. The blackvue is going to be nice. Be sure to post pics.

I picked up the Blackvue DR350 (not HD, no GPS) for $129 on eBay. Should be good enough for my needs.

RavinJetta
02-20-2012, 08:35 AM
Is the GPS sensor contained in the unit or is tucked away somewhere? Some of the other cheaper units you have a separate GPS receiver that needs to be mounted as well

AwdPwns
02-20-2012, 09:04 AM
what model is that op? is it the smarty hd bx1500?

memphis_s4
02-20-2012, 04:42 PM
Is the GPS sensor contained in the unit or is tucked away somewhere? Some of the other cheaper units you have a separate GPS receiver that needs to be mounted as well

The GPS is built in. Yeah, that would look pretty horrible lol


what model is that op? is it the smarty hd bx1500?

It is the 1500. I bought it off Amazon. Dont remember the seller. I also bought the harness that goes with it, although I could have just made the harness just as easily.

B8 S FOR
02-20-2012, 07:49 PM
"I want to protect my investment, and $200 is well worth it to me."

^ A car is an investment? Sucker depreciates like 20% as soon as you drive it off the lot! Seems a bit overkill? Watch yourself...certain states have laws about video recording..just sayin' ...stay safe!

xtrema
02-20-2012, 08:42 PM
Just joined a group buy for blackvue as well. Waiting for delivery now. Man dash cam is all the rage these days.

Charlescrs6
02-20-2012, 09:38 PM
Just joined a group buy for blackvue as well. Waiting for delivery now. Man dash cam is all the rage these days.

How much and where?


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purelife
02-20-2012, 10:51 PM
black vue $243 here BlackVue DR400G-HD (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BlackVue-DR400G-HD-16GB-English-Manual-Car-Black-Box-Drive-GPS-Recorder-/170737350357?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c0bd36d5)

phillips2024
02-21-2012, 03:26 AM
they all ship from south korea.

are there none in the states

memphis_s4
02-21-2012, 02:10 PM
"I want to protect my investment, and $200 is well worth it to me."

^ A car is an investment? Sucker depreciates like 20% as soon as you drive it off the lot! Seems a bit overkill? Watch yourself...certain states have laws about video recording..just sayin' ...stay safe!

I am not looking at it in that sense. It is an investment in that is a tool that I use on a daily basis to make my life easier and to help me make more money. So, yes, it is an investment because without it, I would not have the means to acquire more dolla dolla bills.

xtrema
02-21-2012, 08:33 PM
How much and where?


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Local car club. About 20 of us. $215 a piece dr400g-hd with 16gb.

audiblitz
02-22-2012, 12:28 PM
black vue $243 here BlackVue DR400G-HD (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BlackVue-DR400G-HD-16GB-English-Manual-Car-Black-Box-Drive-GPS-Recorder-/170737350357?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c0bd36d5)
Just ordered one. I love it.

Audacious
02-22-2012, 01:40 PM
black vue $243 here BlackVue DR400G-HD (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BlackVue-DR400G-HD-16GB-English-Manual-Car-Black-Box-Drive-GPS-Recorder-/170737350357?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27c0bd36d5)

price just went up to 293, wtf.

xtrema
02-22-2012, 03:13 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/30ll7yr.jpg

One of the member on our site just got his and did a test run. Night performance is decent. And the software seems cool with Google Map overlay. Logs GPS, Speed, Accelerometer info as well.

audiblitz
02-22-2012, 03:27 PM
price just went up to 293, wtf.
Thats probably the one with the power magic adapter so it works when the car is parked.

B8_Jim
02-22-2012, 03:59 PM
dr400g-hd with 16gb.

I recently got one of these - OK picture, not quite what I expected - the HD resolution is kind of a waste as the images are so compressed that the effective resolution is a lot lower. Can for sure make out what is happening in the image in general, and it's good enough to read license plates when they are maybe 1 car length in front but not much farther. Just wish there was an option to change recording quality in addition to the resolution - I'd give up some record time for better quality, or just buy a 32GB card.

audibmi
03-01-2012, 08:15 PM
I recently got one of these - OK picture, not quite what I expected - the HD resolution is kind of a waste as the images are so compressed that the effective resolution is a lot lower. Can for sure make out what is happening in the image in general, and it's good enough to read license plates when they are maybe 1 car length in front but not much farther. Just wish there was an option to change recording quality in addition to the resolution - I'd give up some record time for better quality, or just buy a 32GB card.

which brand or class of sd card are you using? perhaps faster writing sd cards would improve the resolution?

B8_Jim
03-01-2012, 08:52 PM
which brand or class of sd card are you using? perhaps faster writing sd cards would improve the resolution?

It came with a class 4 16GB card, I got a 32GB class 10 card with no change in picture quality - just get 2x as much record time... The movies are full 1920x1080x30fps using either card - it just looks like a JPEG saved with low quality making things fuzzy. I just wish the software had an option to increase quality. Maybe the 1920x1080x30fps bitrate was maxing out the class 4 cards so they chose notto include a higher quality option that would create issues with low speed cards and cause a lot of returns/tech support hassles.

xtrema
03-12-2012, 09:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u10E10pAC_s

BlackVue vs GoPro

Quality, can't beat GoPro. Functionality as a dash cam. Not bad. I need to position it better tho.