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fbdohc
10-14-2011, 10:14 AM
To fit this:
http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/Garrett_GT2860RS_aka_GT28RS-59-13.html

on this:
http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/Kinetic_1_8T_Turbo_Manifold_Longitudinal-38-2.html

i saw another manifold that says t3 fitting but this one does not tell which one i need...
Thanks

qo0v
10-14-2011, 10:23 AM
you need a t25 or t3 manifold. That manifold will only work for an elim or k03/k04

nunya
10-14-2011, 10:23 AM
To fit this:
http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/Garrett_GT2860RS_aka_GT28RS-59-13.html

on this:
http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/Kinetic_1_8T_Turbo_Manifold_Longitudinal-38-2.html

i saw another manifold that says t3 fitting but this one does not tell which one i need...
Thanks

You are looking at a full frame turbo with a T25 flange and a stock fitment/flange manifold. You need a T25 manifold or Eliminator GTRS to match one or the other.

--dillon

fbdohc
10-14-2011, 11:14 AM
This one will do ?
http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/1_8T_T3_manifold_for_B5_B6-466-2.html

EuroSwag
10-14-2011, 11:22 AM
Yes that manifold will work, just make sure you select the T3 housing when you're buying the turbo.

fbdohc
10-14-2011, 11:30 AM
That's what i thought !
Thanks

fbdohc
10-19-2011, 10:38 AM
.... and what is the difference between t3 48 ar, t3 63 ar and t3 82 ar ??

Seerlah
10-19-2011, 10:56 AM
This one will do ?
http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/1_8T_T3_manifold_for_B5_B6-466-2.html

Oh sh*t. Do yourself a favor and others, by purchasing from vendors who don't earn off anothers R&D and passion. That is a PSi Concept manifold chinese knock off. Shady business ehtics going on there.

Flanges:
-T25 is smaller than T3, makes the turbo spool faster, has less top end due to it being smaller than the T3, more probability of snapping a rod, and can choke on the top end depending on what turbo is being used because of the smaller T25 flange
-T3 is larger than T25, slightly later spool, but makes up for it on the top end and does not choke because of restriction

A/R (Area/Radius):
-Compressor housing A/R are rather mandated to what is offered and exhaust housings is what you choose
-lower A/R grants faster spool, more low end power, and less up top
-higher A/R grants later spool, more lenient on stock internals, less low end power, but opens up on the top end of the RPM range

To give you an idea, I chose a T3 GT2871R .63 A/R.

flynnr
10-19-2011, 11:19 AM
This one will do ?
http://www.ctsturbo.com/cart/products/1_8T_T3_manifold_for_B5_B6-466-2.html

DO NOT BUY THAT MANIFOLD - IT IS A CHEAP ONE OFF OF A QUALITY PRODUCT....

cant even believe they can get away with selling that - at full price none the less! the ONLY reason it is black, is so people can differentiate it from the real thing...

bs company with bs ethics

fbdohc
10-19-2011, 11:59 AM
Damn, i thought they offer great product on this site.
Couple friends of mine ordered there...
Which manifold you suggest me then ? For a reasonnable price...

flynnr
10-19-2011, 12:18 PM
I ran a t25 on my gt28r, and liked it better than my current t3 - i like faster spooling turbo's though. high end didnt loose much if anything from my but dyno, not enough to sacrifice the quick onset of boost.

EuroSwag
10-19-2011, 12:31 PM
Seerlah, How do you like that setup?
Im planning to get the exact same thing how is the lag? Whats it spool by?

Seerlah
10-19-2011, 12:54 PM
Not even installed yet. Need to get one more peice.

EuroSwag
10-19-2011, 01:05 PM
Ahh damnit! I need to decide between gt28rs and gt2871!

Seerlah
10-19-2011, 01:17 PM
From various posts, they ride completely different. The GT2871R is supposed to grant roughly 35-50more hp to the crank on same boost level (assuming you are running it at 21+psi). The GT2860RS is most polular because it pushes the stock block basically to a safe limit. The GT2871R, not so much so. But people have gotten away with pushing that turbo on the stock block (great tuning). Others were not as fortunate.

/thread jack

EuroSwag
10-19-2011, 01:19 PM
Yeah, I'm going to be using the 440cc Uni tune. What tune are you going with? If you're spend 1000 dollars already why not spend $100 more to get a little more?

Seerlah
10-19-2011, 01:26 PM
It isn't about the money. It's about not placing a hole on the side of your engine block. That's an expensive repair[:p]. If you are running a 440cc tune, I would get the GT2871R. I will be running a 630cc MAFless tune, and won't run more than 18psi till I do drop in rods.

qo0v
10-19-2011, 01:29 PM
sorry to thread jack ... would it be alright to run the uni 440cc tune on a gt2860RS ?

Seerlah
10-19-2011, 01:35 PM
It's all tune dependant. If you want to run a 440cc tune, then you need to choose Unitronics for your tune.

flynnr
10-19-2011, 01:54 PM
btw - you wont hurt your block running a 2860 or 71r on a t25 manifold... k04's have a better chance at bending a rod than either of these turbo's.

qo0v
10-19-2011, 02:11 PM
I was asking if the uni 440cc tune would work with a gt2860RS or if it was made specifically for the gt2871R, or does it not matter? The website just says gt28 series, but the 630cc file says the same thing. So what I'm asking is which file is best for the gt2860RS if all three BT tunes are for GT28 series turbos?

M-Hood
10-19-2011, 02:33 PM
.... and what is the difference between t3 48 ar, t3 63 ar and t3 82 ar ??

It is how quickly the air is pushed into the exhaust wheel after it has entered the housing.

The smaller the number the quicker the turbo is going to spool up, but will also have the lowest max flow.

M-Hood
10-19-2011, 02:34 PM
I was asking if the uni 440cc tune would work with a gt2860RS or if it was made specifically for the gt2871R, or does it not matter? The website just says gt28 series, but the 630cc file says the same thing. So what I'm asking is which file is best for the gt2860RS if all three BT tunes are for GT28 series turbos?

They will work for either turbo but depends on how hard you push the turbo and causing the injectors to max out.

qo0v
10-19-2011, 03:56 PM
so then I'd be able to run the 630cc file with a gt28RS with no problems until i decide to upgrade to a larger turbo? I would prefer to go that route to save some money on buying different tunes. Once again sorry for the thread jack

Seerlah
10-19-2011, 04:27 PM
630cc injectors are used for many applications. It's when you move into 475+chp territory that you would need to move up from 630cc injectors. Picking up 630cc injectors will save you money in the long run, if you plan on moving up from a GT28xx series tuirbocharger. If you moved up to a GT30xx series, those still run on 630cc injectors. The 440cc won't supply enough fuel.

qo0v
10-19-2011, 04:56 PM
Looks like I'll be going to 630cc route then to save some cash. Thanks guys

EuroSwag
10-19-2011, 05:23 PM
Looks like i'll be buying the 2871 then [up]
Could you run bigger injectors with the 440cc tune?
and just run an AFPR? The reason being is i eventually wanna run meth and am not sure if 440's will suffice.

flynnr
10-19-2011, 09:24 PM
still cant believe cts is such a shady company -

dont buy anything from them... for any reason

EuroSwag
10-19-2011, 09:33 PM
That's kind of depressing because I actually thought they were legit and looked like a good company to buy from [mad]

fbdohc
10-20-2011, 06:07 AM
Even turbos ? they sure offer a big variety of products and good price...

M-Hood
10-20-2011, 07:09 AM
Looks like i'll be buying the 2871 then [up]
Could you run bigger injectors with the 440cc tune?
and just run an AFPR? The reason being is i eventually wanna run meth and am not sure if 440's will suffice.

Doing that will give you more fuel up top but will just cause the ECU to pull more fuel at idle/PT. Just get the right tune for the injectors you want to run.

Seerlah
10-20-2011, 08:12 AM
Even turbos ? they sure offer a big variety of products and good price...

I personally wouldn't buy from CTS simply because of their cut throat business ethics...especially on on an enthusiest forum board. You can always source items for cheaper prices than what CTS offers, even though they have good prices. Sending you a PM.

ZimbutheMonkey
10-20-2011, 10:37 AM
Damn, i thought they offer great product on this site.
Couple friends of mine ordered there...
Which manifold you suggest me then ? For a reasonnable price...

In case you're wondering why flynr isn't cool with CTS (and neither am I) here's why http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/425559-To-All-PSi-Concepts-Customers-Dealers-and-Supporters

Do yourself a favor, talk to Jeff at PSi concepts and ask him about getting set up with one of his Garrett/Mitsubishi hybrids. They're gret little turbos and tough as nails, also, Jeff will warranty his manifolds for life, unlike CTS who offers a one yer warranty (for the same price I might add).

Seriously, Jeff will stand behind his product. CTS is basically a reseller. They'll offer you a factory warranty and that's it. Anything breaks outside of that and you're SOL.

EuroSwag
10-20-2011, 06:20 PM
Wow, what bs.