402 Raising?

[8520]

Obviously there is a ton of talk about 402'ing an allroad down, but has anyone 402'd an allroad up? From what I remember, there was a limit of 25mm down, but does that same 25mm max apply to going up?

Thanks

[mike's machine]

when I did mind, I didn't notice any "limit" going up or down.
I mean, I put a value bigger than 25 and it worked just fine.

[DizkoDan]

It's not a hard limit, but there obviously is a limit based on the inflation of the bags. I'd just go in like 5mm increments once you get close to that. You'll know pretty quickly once it stops working ;) 25mm = about 1in while this isn't a lot, on level 4, the ar is already at 8in ground clearance, so adding an inch puts you like 1in short of a jeep grand cherokee.

[8520]

The reason I'm asking is because I'm looking in to suspension modification that would physically lower the car overall (ie shortened shaft shocks) regardless of whether it was 402'd or not, however, I would like the option to get it back to "stock height" by 402'ing it up.

[mike's machine]

how are shortened shaft shocks going to lower the AR?

[8520]

I might have phrased this incorrectly.

A la Capt. Obvious -

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/darrbar/Car%20stuff/CIMG2146.jpg

[Audi4.2]

I might have phrased this incorrectly.

A la Capt. Obvious -

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/darrbar/Car%20stuff/CIMG2146.jpg

wtf

[durfA4]

So if you reduce the overall shock length then adjust the 402 back up you would still have a lowered stance on lv2, and increased travel o level 1 before, bottoming out. Makes sense, but welding a shock is not really a safe idea. I am not a welder but wouldn't you need to chamfer that end alot more to get good penitration.

[8520]

I don't see your logic. If the shock is shortened and then 402'd up, then how would I have a lowered stance on level 2? Level 2, along with all the other levels, would be at near stock height assuming I shorten the shock the same amount as I 402 the car up.

Yes, if I didn't have the car 402'd up at the time then the overall level is lowered, but the car wouldn't necessarily be bottoming out as that is more dependent on the wheel/tire combo.

[mike's machine]

isn't bottoming out more on the shocks? (like shock body hitting the bump stop)
so if you shorten the shocks and lower the car by 402-ing, the shocks will perform better when its lowered, but when it's raised, depending on how much you cut off the shock, it won't stretch as much so you can't really raise it by 402-ing.
And what method can weld the solid metal rod as strong as before after you cut it?
I'm not concerned about raising it as much as I am on lowering it, so I'm curious :)

[Haenszel20v]

And what method can weld the solid metal rod as strong as before after you cut it?

Most shocks are already welded at that part, anyways.

[mike's machine]

True. I see how it will work on front shocks if you cut bottom part but how about the rear shocks?
Bottom portion looks it can't be cut and welded, so cut the top metal rod portion???