View Full Version : What RPM for a rolling pull?
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 07:33 AM
If you're going to do a XXmph rolling pull, what RPM would you hold at before you smashed the throttle? So for example's sake - a 55 to 120 pull/race.. downshift and hold at what RPM to get the biggest bang from the start?
clochner
08-16-2011, 07:37 AM
I would probably just downshift to 3rd and let the DSG select the proper rpm @ that speed. Guessing 4-5k rpm??
StratJohn
08-16-2011, 07:42 AM
I think for your speed, whatever gear gets you 3krpm, thats where you should be prepped to roll from. I think the car has the hardest pull at from there forwards.
NWS4Guy
08-16-2011, 07:47 AM
I think for your speed, whatever gear gets you 3krpm, thats where you should be prepped to roll from. I think the car has the hardest pull at from there forwards.
From my logging with the pulley I see the largest boost roll in around 3500, so I would def be at 3k+
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 08:15 AM
great. thanks..
after months of shit talking - we have multiple "put your money where you mouth is" highway pulls today at the office during lunch. i am going against the following cars - 2008 M3, 2007 RS4, stock gt-r, 2010 m5, and a 2007 sti. oh, and i'm also running my renntech S65 in case my s4 gets knocked out. i really wanted to get an idea what rpm i should be at instead of learning as i go - because these a-holes will never shut up if i lose. yes, my CEO is awesome.. extended lunch an hour for this.. it's been planned for weeks.
StratJohn
08-16-2011, 08:18 AM
haha, thats not bad. Pics/results/etc.
clochner
08-16-2011, 08:20 AM
That's awesome!! Looking forward to the results. Do any of you guys have a go-pro? Would love to see vids.
zcd2.7t
08-16-2011, 08:23 AM
great. thanks.. after months of shit talking - we have multiple "put your money where you mouth is" highway pulls today at the office during lunch.
Sounds like fun - be careful out there.
The GT-R and your S65 are going to PWN ALL, but it will be fun to hear (and hopefully see) the results.
jeffc31337
08-16-2011, 08:33 AM
For 55 mph I'd say 3rd. You're making peak power at the top of the rev range but at 55 youll be over 6k rpms already where torque is falling off. If it was at any lower speed I'd say second.....
S-Fore
08-16-2011, 08:46 AM
funny, just last night I was playing with an E46 M3. We were at a light, and I let him make an ass out of himself, as I pulled out of the light like an old lady. Next light, when I saw it changing from the other direction, I looked over and smiled and he knew it was on. I pulled like 2-3 cars on him out of the hole, twice, with perfect shifts, my car is stock. As we proceeded to the hwy, he wanted to keep going....So I did a few 55-9X pulls; 3500 in 4th>3rd and got a nice little jump and he stayed his nose to my tail until I backed off. It was all cool, and we both really wanted to see how they measured up. We did this a couple times and the same results each time. He was def stock from the looks of it and was a 6mt too. As we all know that car is much different over 65-70, but out of the hole, he had no chance. He exited giving me the thumbs up. I'm not much of "racer", but it was fun.
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 08:48 AM
it's going to be fun.. but i think the gt-r is going to make my s4 look slow. hence me bringing the s65 out of the garage.
i'm sorry to say this, but my CEO being slightly paranoid, said if he sees anyone videotaping him racing he'll cancel it. so no gopro's allowed (i brought mine anyway, but dont' think i'll risk it). i will obviously post detailed results - we're bringing someone out to take notes of the pulls so no one looses track of who beats who. leaving in 10 mins
NunyaBiz
08-16-2011, 09:26 AM
it's going to be fun.. but i think the gt-r is going to make my s4 look slow. hence me bringing the s65 out of the garage.
i'm sorry to say this, but my CEO being slightly paranoid, said if he sees anyone videotaping him racing he'll cancel it. so no gopro's allowed (i brought mine anyway, but dont' think i'll risk it). i will obviously post detailed results - we're bringing someone out to take notes of the pulls so no one looses track of who beats who. leaving in 10 mins
You guys hiring? [drive]
clochner
08-16-2011, 09:32 AM
You guys hiring? [drive]
LOL!! Big +1.
jeffc31337
08-16-2011, 10:57 AM
it's going to be fun.. but i think the gt-r is going to make my s4 look slow. hence me bringing the s65 out of the garage.
i'm sorry to say this, but my CEO being slightly paranoid, said if he sees anyone videotaping him racing he'll cancel it. so no gopro's allowed (i brought mine anyway, but dont' think i'll risk it). i will obviously post detailed results - we're bringing someone out to take notes of the pulls so no one looses track of who beats who. leaving in 10 mins
Looking forward to the results. Man that modded s65 must have some insane torque and power.
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 11:28 AM
Looking forward to the results. Man that modded s65 must have some insane torque and power.
yeah the s65's power is just plain stupid. 581rwhp, 749rwtq.
quick update, gt-r urinated on my s4. i hate that car (the gt-r). i'm running gt-r with s65 as the last race in 5 mintutes,, had to get more gas lol
Nadrealista
08-16-2011, 12:06 PM
meh, he has faster car but he might not be faster/better driver..anybody can mash the pedal and let the car do work/shifting for you in the short straight line run.
heck last time I was at VIR I was passing R8s and lotuses in my stock Mazda RX-8...
jeffc31337
08-16-2011, 12:09 PM
yeah the s65's power is just plain stupid. 581rwhp, 749rwtq.
quick update, gt-r urinated on my s4. i hate that car (the gt-r). i'm running gt-r with s65 as the last race in 5 mintutes,, had to get more gas lol
Good death :) Looking forward to hearing how the s4 did against the m3, sti etc!
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 12:47 PM
OK gentlemen, here's how it went. I'm starving right now.. but posting on the audi forum always takes priority over heath/food/shelter.
we did runs from 55 - 110, or if 2+ car lengths were gained, it was over. I'm going to try to keep this as organized as possible..
MY S4 Vs..
me vs 08 m3 (stock) - I won by 1 car length
me vs 2007 RS4 (exhaust, tune) - I won by a little over 1 car length
me vs 2010 m5 (stock) - I won by less than 1 car length
me vs sti (tune, exhaust, stock turbo) - I won by almost 2 car lengths
me vs stock gt-r - he won by over 2 car lengths. i expected it, but i still cried a little
My S65 vs..
M3, M5, sti, rs4 - all were mercilessly raped by way more than 2 car lengths. wasn't even fun (ok, yes it was)
me vs gt-r - i won by more than 1 car length (we ran to 150)
notable races:
m3 beat rs4 by almost a whole car (that race sounded awesome) i expected it to be more even, but that's what happened, no redo's
m5 beat m3 - very close
m3 beat sti
rs4 beat sti
gt-r beat everything except my s65
i went through 80 bucks of gas in the s65. s4 held it's own, but was the most heavily modded out of the regular car group. i ran in manual mode at first - but my f*%^#ing DSG short shifted early - so the rest i ran in drive in dynamic mode and it did fine. man what a day.. and now i'm supposed to get back to work??
StratJohn
08-16-2011, 12:53 PM
Well done sir.
NWS4Guy
08-16-2011, 12:54 PM
Nice man! Thanks for the recap - I take it they all have their tails between their legs now and are no longer flipping you shit?
clochner
08-16-2011, 12:55 PM
Awesome, man!! Way to represent w/ the B8! Thread of the day. [up]
http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/thumbs%20up/grand/88164342-thumb-up-.gif
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 12:59 PM
Nice man! Thanks for the recap - I take it they all have their tails between their legs now and are no longer flipping you shit?
lol, flipping me shit is an awesome expression. no sir, they aren't flipping me anymore shit.. althought they knew when i left the s4 here last night and got a ride home to get the s65 they were in for a problem.
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clochner - great clip
zcd2.7t
08-16-2011, 01:01 PM
OK gentlemen, here's how it went. I'm starving right now.. but posting on the audi forum always takes priority over heath/food/shelter.
Good answer!! ;-)
The GT-R and your S65 are going to PWN ALL
Another good answer!! (prediction?)
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 01:06 PM
yes, good prediction. my CEO just printed out the info on the GT-R Switzer package and taped it to my office door.. lol. he does not like to lose.
zcd2.7t
08-16-2011, 01:32 PM
my CEO just printed out the info on the GT-R Switzer package and taped it to my office door.. lol. he does not like to lose.
Well at least that would make the race closer!
You should take the S65 to the drags some time, if you haven't already. It'll be tricky to launch, but your MPH would be insane - prolly 125 mph or more...
phillips2024
08-16-2011, 01:52 PM
awesome!
poor sti hahah
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 02:05 PM
You should take the S65 to the drags some time, if you haven't already. It'll be tricky to launch, but your MPH would be insane - prolly 125 mph or more...
11.09 secs, 127.10mph, 1.680 60 ft IMPOSSIBLE to launch. took me 5 tries
NWS4Guy
08-16-2011, 03:09 PM
awesome!
poor sti hahah
Prediction: STI either trades it in soon or goes for upgraded turbo [:)]
lol, flipping me shit is an awesome expression. no sir, they aren't flipping me anymore shit.. althought they knew when i left the s4 here last night and got a ride home to get the s65 they were in for a problem.
Nice, I would have thought you had heard that expression before, but I guess it might be a southeastern/northwest thing [;)]
FatalBert
08-16-2011, 03:27 PM
great. thanks..
after months of shit talking - we have multiple "put your money where you mouth is" highway pulls today at the office during lunch. i am going against the following cars - 2008 M3, 2007 RS4, stock gt-r, 2010 m5, and a 2007 sti. oh, and i'm also running my renntech S65 in case my s4 gets knocked out. i really wanted to get an idea what rpm i should be at instead of learning as i go - because these a-holes will never shut up if i lose. yes, my CEO is awesome.. extended lunch an hour for this.. it's been planned for weeks.
You hiring? [drool]
zcd2.7t
08-16-2011, 04:34 PM
11.09 secs, 127.10mph, 1.680 60 ft IMPOSSIBLE to launch. took me 5 tries
That's SICK!
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Oh, and BTW - you hiring?
CBRmatt600
08-16-2011, 05:28 PM
Dude, where the F do you work?
I wasn't expecting that outcome, especially against the M5. The S4 is clearly no joke. This should have the Bimmer boys crying.
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-16-2011, 05:42 PM
Dude, where the F do you work?
I wasn't expecting that outcome, especially against the M5. The S4 is clearly no joke. This should have the Bimmer boys crying.
lol, i work at a marketing company with a CEO who's a die hard enthusiast. He even renamed the company to have the acronym "AMG" after his beloved s55. We have a speedometer worked into our logo - the theme of the whole company is race/car related. It's awesome
i didn't expect the s4 to pull on the m5 either - i thought i would need the s65 to take it.. but by the time we hit 120 his front bumper was about even with my rear wheel. remember, it was stock.. i am not.. but it is what it is
tgoss
08-16-2011, 05:47 PM
Well done sir!
Can't wait for next spring... GT-R time for myself :)
clochner
08-16-2011, 05:49 PM
i didn't expect the s4 to pull on the m5 either - remember, it was stock.. i am not.. but it is what it is
Still, though, isn't the m5 like $90,000? S4 FTW!
CBRmatt600
08-16-2011, 06:32 PM
lol, i work at a marketing company with a CEO who's a die hard enthusiast. He even renamed the company to have the acronym "AMG" after his beloved s55. We have a speedometer worked into our logo - the theme of the whole company is race/car related. It's awesome
i didn't expect the s4 to pull on the m5 either - i thought i would need the s65 to take it.. but by the time we hit 120 his front bumper was about even with my rear wheel. remember, it was stock.. i am not.. but it is what it is
Even stock, I've driven my friends SMG M5 and it is a very fast car, especially over 100mph. I'm pretty pumped to hear that the S4 will take it.
trinacria
08-16-2011, 08:37 PM
Fonz, you think the plastidip had alot to do with your success?[:D]
Fonz, you think the plastidip had alot to do with your success?[:D]
I wouldn't say alot, but it definitely must have helped slightly [:D]
Very interesting results, to say the least - your co-workers [especially your CEO] sound like awesome dudes.
r32breeze
08-17-2011, 04:07 AM
Prediction: STI either trades it in soon or goes for upgraded turbo [:)]
Nice, I would have thought you had heard that expression before, but I guess it might be a southeastern/northwest thing [;)]
Poor STi :) I don't enjoy to him loosing as a former R32 driver... (OK yes, I do!)
@Fonzie: Are you guys planning to 0-100 races? I think your 4000 rpm launch control will eat them all :D
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-17-2011, 05:29 AM
Fonz, you think the plastidip had alot to do with your success?[:D]
oh without a doubt. the ever so suttle texture of the plastidip acted like dimples in a golf ball - making me way more aerodynamic and helping me pick up an extra advantage :)
@Fonzie: Are you guys planning to 0-100 races? I think your 4000 rpm launch control will eat them all :D
we don't have any planned because we don't have a safe (and cop free) space for it with all those cars. i can tell you however i HAVE done 0-70 runs from a dig vs the RS4 and the M3.. i used launch control and beat them both pretty bad. never against the sti, m5 or gt-r though - i assume the gt-r would be the only one that would give me trouble
that mercedes sounds like a dangerous weapon. Insane fuel mileage eh.
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-17-2011, 06:03 AM
that mercedes sounds like a dangerous weapon. Insane fuel mileage eh.
avg 9 mpg
avg 9 mpg
I'd love to run your S65 with my Z....too bad you're in FL. Sounds like you guys had a blast!
NunyaBiz
08-17-2011, 07:24 AM
avg 9 mpg
Jeebus...
vincent9993
08-17-2011, 12:49 PM
So my business associate just got a G37xS 4 door auto, do I have anything to worry about? I'm stock... Just preping in case we decide to emulate you and have an extended lunch hour pull... lol
I see myself sending my ECU south of the border sooner rather than later! lol
zcd2.7t
08-17-2011, 12:53 PM
So my business associate just got a G37xS 4 door auto, do I have anything to worry about?
Nope.
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-17-2011, 01:03 PM
Nope.
+1. hell nope
NunyaBiz
08-17-2011, 01:15 PM
+1. hell nope
I had a G37S sedan as a loaner from my dealer when it was in for service and that thing is not even remotely close. The thing that shocked me the most about that car is that even with the 18" all-season tires, the ride was way harsher than my S4. I expected a smooth ride but was very much surprised by how it drove.
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-22-2011, 12:14 PM
update -
my CEO just sent his GT-R away for this:
P800 PKG
800 HP PUMP GAS PKG
• SWITZER FUEL INJECTOR KIT
• SWITZER MONSTER INTERCOOLER KIT
• SWITZER UPGRADED TURBOCHARGERS (req's good cores)
• HIGH-PRESSURE WASTEGATE ACTUATORS
• SWITZER P800 CALIBRATION FOR COBB AP
• SWITZER MAF / INTAKE AND FILTER ASSEMBLY
• SWITZER HIGH-FLOW TURBO INTAKES FOR SWITZER MAF
• SWITZER OFF-ROAD TEST PIPES
• SWITZER FUEL SYSTEM UPGRADE
$18,490 USD
he takes losing so freakin personally
StratJohn
08-22-2011, 12:33 PM
Hahah, man, you've done well Fonzie.
NWS4Guy
08-22-2011, 12:49 PM
You should point Switzer to this thread and see if they will kick you back anything.
zcd2.7t
08-22-2011, 12:51 PM
update -
my CEO just sent his GT-R away for this:
P800 PKG
800 HP PUMP GAS PKG
he takes losing so freakin personally
Yeah, well, you better call RennTech rightnow if you hope to keep up next time!
(though I'm not certain WHAT would have to be done to an S65 to get it down the 1/4 mile in less than 10 seconds....Flux Capacitor, mebbe?;-)
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-22-2011, 12:59 PM
Yeah, well, you better call RennTech rightnow if you hope to keep up next time!
(though I'm not certain WHAT would have to be done to an S65 to get it down the 1/4 mile in less than 10 seconds....Flux Capacitor, mebbe?
i think it's only fair that if the gt-r is getting upgraded turbos, the s65 should get upgraded turbos.
dude the car weighs like 5300lbs with me in it. with bigger turbos i think i could keep up on the highway but 1/4 mile i have no shot keeping up with a switzer gt-r. i'd have to gut the whole car; and i'm not willing to give up my massaging seats and my nightvision ;)
NunyaBiz
08-22-2011, 01:39 PM
You should ask him for a mid-year "salary adjustment" so you both can keep things interesting [:D]
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-22-2011, 02:23 PM
You should ask him for a mid-year "salary adjustment" so you both can keep things interesting [:D]
if i put any more $$ into that s65 my wife would kill me. oh.. wait.. i'm single, i can do whatever i want :)
BadandyAudi
08-22-2011, 03:04 PM
You have an awesome company, and it's hilarious that the CEO takes it so personally. The President at one of the companies I interned at (I'm recently out of school) got a 997 Turbo when they came out to keep pace with the Founder's F430.
Pmed , Fonz...
As far as the insane cars... GTR with Switzer is pretty unstoppable... I guess you may have to get the guy from that other forum that has the 1350HP GTR to stomp your boss lol. And while the E60 M5 is an amazing car in all of its right, a friend of mine just couldnt get away from me on the highway with one and then after I got ahead of him I pulled and left him by 2 car lengths... So I am inclined to believe everything said here
Tyrnnus
08-22-2011, 09:23 PM
if i put any more $$ into that s65 my wife would kill me. oh.. wait.. i'm single, i can do whatever i want :)
Mind if I put that in my sig?
BadandyAudi
08-22-2011, 09:32 PM
Do you have any pics on here of your S65?
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-23-2011, 05:16 AM
Mind if I put that in my sig?
i don't mind at all
Do you have any pics on here of your S65?
i have pics of it.. but i don't like junking up the S4 forum with Merc pics. here is a video of the exhaust i built with catless downpipes and an x pipe
http://youtu.be/vbykeL6US7Q
NunyaBiz
08-23-2011, 06:21 AM
Damn, that thing is friggin' loud. I think this guy wants to race you next...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/nunyabiz215/terriblecarmod6.jpg
Fonzie@DipYourCar
08-23-2011, 06:41 AM
Damn, that thing is friggin' loud. I think this guy wants to race you next...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/nunyabiz215/terriblecarmod6.jpg
those rims look super light weight
Ynnekdude
08-23-2011, 08:11 AM
Import an RS6 Avant. Get the MRC tune. Really get your boss upset. Nothing would get him more upset than being walked on by a wagon.