Can anyone make me brake brackets?

[MRxPresident]

Anyone know where I can have brackets made to put these porsche calipers I have on my car?

[NJAUDI1]

second that

[t0mt0m]

there was a guy who put together custom brake kits, bira group or something, i had a set on my b6 but i think birra fell apart years ago. let me dig through my emails and see if i can find something. since this platform is so new, i doubt anything has been fabricated yet

[S-Fore]

If there is enough interest, I'd bet JHM might be interested in doing the Porsche kit and LW Rotors like they have for the B7. I'm sure that they just need to see enough demand to make $$$.

[NWS4Guy]

You do know that just because it's a Porsche kit it's not only not always better for use on a car other than a Porsche, but can cause worse/dangerous braking performance I hope? The fact that you have to get a bracket made to fit them not only tells me that it's not made for our car, but likely not a good idea. How much flex would the bracket cause?

There is a lot of phyiscs and math involved with brakes, why they work how they do, and that they were designed for the car the way they were. Clamping force, piston size, the displacement of the pistons compared to the volume of the master cylinder, the throw of the piston compared to the rotor they are being used on, etc etc. All these are highly important factors, and tossing on a set of calipers not designed for your car is not only dangerous, but can actually lessen braking power.

[Skyler@Achtuning]

^True, StopTech has some good information that explains braking systems and physics well.

http://www.stoptech.com/tech_info/tech_white_papers.shtml

[NJAUDI1]

The porsche brakes that people used on the b7 were from the Cayanne. Its a guess, but shouldn't they work ok since the cayanee weighs a bit more then both the b8 and the b7. Or is the bracket more the concern?
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[a4huey09]

What calipers....I have a set of ECS brackets from their stage 2v2 kit for a b6 A4 ..not sure if they fit or not but....


Anyone know where I can have brackets made to put these Porsche calipers I have on my car?

[NWS4Guy]

The porsche brakes that people used on the b7 were from the Cayanne. Its a guess, but shouldn't they work ok since the cayanee weighs a bit more then both the b8 and the b7. Or is the bracket more the concern?
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There is a LOT more to it that "will this thing be beefy enough to stop me."

Examples:
As the pad material wears, the pistons push farther out of the caliper to make contact with the rotor. Since you are using a caliper and pads designed for use on a Porsche, they could easily be forced to move beyond the servicable range to clamp the narrower Audi rotors, causing the pad to exit the caliper, or the piston to fatigue or even come loose, causing total failure.

or

If the pistons are displacing more fluid than the stock Audi calipers, but you are still using the same master cylinder, as the pads wear, the reservoir gets too low and ideally the check fluid light come on and you catch it, but what if it doesn't or by the time it comes on, the brakes are already not working well due to air in the lines?

These are only 2 examples, but I highly recommend some instructive reading on brakes and braking systems in cars before swapping out for something not explicitly designed for you car. It would be a tradegy for someone to die al because they wanted to look good doing it.

[MRxPresident]

There is a LOT more to it that "will this thing be beefy enough to stop me."

Examples:
As the pad material wears, the pistons push farther out of the caliper to make contact with the rotor. Since you are using a caliper and pads designed for use on a Porsche, they could easily be forced to move beyond the servicable range to clamp the narrower Audi rotors, causing the pad to exit the caliper, or the piston to fatigue or even come loose, causing total failure.

or

If the pistons are displacing more fluid than the stock Audi calipers, but you are still using the same master cylinder, as the pads wear, the reservoir gets too low and ideally the check fluid light come on and you catch it, but what if it doesn't or by the time it comes on, the brakes are already not working well due to air in the lines?

These are only 2 examples, but I highly recommend some instructive reading on brakes and braking systems in cars before swapping out for something not explicitly designed for you car. It would be a tradegy for someone to die al because they wanted to look good doing it.

right i understand this... ECS did a kit with porsche calipers, so shouldn't this be a sign that this works? or am i generalizing?

and this is not for looking good =)

[Ynnekdude]

There is a LOT more to it that "will this thing be beefy enough to stop me."

Examples:
As the pad material wears, the pistons push farther out of the caliper to make contact with the rotor. Since you are using a caliper and pads designed for use on a Porsche, they could easily be forced to move beyond the servicable range to clamp the narrower Audi rotors, causing the pad to exit the caliper, or the piston to fatigue or even come loose, causing total failure.

or

If the pistons are displacing more fluid than the stock Audi calipers, but you are still using the same master cylinder, as the pads wear, the reservoir gets too low and ideally the check fluid light come on and you catch it, but what if it doesn't or by the time it comes on, the brakes are already not working well due to air in the lines?

These are only 2 examples, but I highly recommend some instructive reading on brakes and braking systems in cars before swapping out for something not explicitly designed for you car. It would be a tradegy for someone to die al because they wanted to look good doing it.
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This guy is obviously talking out of his ass



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[ENV²]

I would like JHM to make the LW Rotors that fit the stock caliper... IMO I think our caliper has more than enough clamping force to be honest

[NWS4Guy]

right i understand this... ECS did a kit with porsche calipers, so shouldn't this be a sign that this works? or am i generalizing?

and this is not for looking good =)

I know you are deep into racing with your profession, and you likely know what you are doing, but more for the general audience - it's not a good idea. Someone posted a great PDF scan of an article going into the specifics of the issues I mentioned on this board a good while back, I'll try to find it. It was written by someone frm Brembo if I recall.

[MRxPresident]

I know you are deep into racing with your profession, and you likely know what you are doing, but more for the general audience - it's not a good idea. Someone posted a great PDF scan of an article going into the specifics of the issues I mentioned on this board a good while back, I'll try to find it. It was written by someone frm Brembo if I recall.

ah cool, yeah i've been researching the specs of the calipers i have to see if it'll work, and it has about the same braking pressure as our single piston... the reason why i feel it will help is because it'll spread the pressure of the pistons instead of concentrated in one spot