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NogaroWonda00
08-03-2011, 08:11 PM
*Mods can you please relocate this thread to the build section*

Its about that time. Shooting for 1100-1200whp @5000+ft above sea level. Dedicated track car.

So heres a partial parts list I will update as things progress..

Single Precision 72/75 Billet wheel dual ceramic ball bearing turbo
Ported 2.8L heads with +1mm Fererra valves springs and retainers (9k redline)
GRP Billet Connecting Rods & Bolts
Arias 11.1 Billet Pistons
Raceware Head Studs
Megasquirt MESIII standalone w/ 6 EGT's
Injector Solutions/Precision 330lb Side Feed Injectors -6 lines feeding each injector (no fuel rail, fuel "manifold")
Weldon Fuel pump
Custom 321 Stainless Exhaust Manifolds w/ Burns Stainless Collectors
Custom "Hi-Rise" Aluminum Intake Manifold
CNC Billet Aluminum Intake Manifold Flanges w/ O-ring slots (no more gaskets)
Twin Tail 44mm Wastegates
Precision BOV
Accufab 90mm Throttle Body
LS1 Coilpacks




I was going to run the car on Q16 and after finding out how much a barrel of it would cost, we decided to go with VP M5 Methanol, which will help with cooling, and eliminate the need for an intercooler setup. Still getting the drivetrain figured out, and having some help from a certain trans expert on this forum (he can chime in if he wants...tranny expert lolz[>_<]) I am also going to have to ditch the stock oil setup and move to a sump system, that way we can preheat the oil, and burn out the methanol (one of the drawbacks to alc is that it will literally make the oil look like frothy milk..) I will try to keep up and remember my camera everyday, as things seem to be progressing quickly!

Now for some pics!
Eurogear USA goodness[cool]
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6149/6006998777_a004212208_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006998777/)
cf trunk 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006998777/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/6006916763_9e73189089_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006916763/)
intake mani 7 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006916763/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6130/6006920507_2d53af90d9_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006920507/)
intake mani 9 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006920507/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6017/6007454664_1f4d40d969_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007454664/)
intake mani 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007454664/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6025/6007455530_26cff24615_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007455530/)
intake mani 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007455530/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr


http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6010/6006913409_778eec6b40_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006913409/)
intake mani 3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006913409/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6017/6006917651_34027fb9ba_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006917651/)
intake mani 8 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6006917651/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6002/6007459148_1cef68dc7a_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007459148/)
intake mani 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007459148/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6015/6007465636_294ce683db_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007465636/)
turbo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007465636/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6024/6007542576_3d8e4f2152_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007542576/)
collector 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007542576/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6127/6007542012_ccf7e3304e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007542012/)
collector (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007542012/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6026/6007462962_3e5f52b420_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007462962/)
manifold 4 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007462962/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6122/6007453622_97aa4c3d17_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007453622/)
mani folds 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6007453622/) by NogaroRain (http://www.flickr.com/people/nogarorain/), on Flickr

I promise to keep the cell phone pics to a minium but here is how the turbo will look, imagine the intake manifold backwards [:)]
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t125/zumo91/f0aa0401.jpg

K04's out 72 mil in
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t125/zumo91/b0f1f865.jpg

[wrench]

Apollo
08-03-2011, 08:21 PM
Amazing. [hail]

S4 Big Head
08-03-2011, 08:27 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQockSPVvnsdFLQPxxttXUofupTVqWya K_63A23mttsRSbt0AZ3

Seeing this type of stuff makes me want to cry... how I wish I could be able to do half of the stuff you're doing lol.

UkuRiSh
08-03-2011, 08:28 PM
DAMN ..... Nice festes audi s4 with single turbo "subscrate" good luck !

beemercer
08-03-2011, 08:51 PM
best of luck [up]

BlakMarketKlash
08-03-2011, 09:00 PM
Nice work. Those are some very nice beads on the intake manifold! Build looks sweet. Did you happen to snap any of the porting???

jibberjive
08-03-2011, 09:06 PM
Meh, I've seen bigger...






















Holy balls you're crazy! So are you running a custom fiberglass hood with molded bumps, or cutting a channel in the hood or something? Or will the turbo and intake mani fit under the stock hood?

NogaroWonda00
08-03-2011, 09:06 PM
Nice work. Those are some very nice beads on the intake manifold! Build looks sweet. Did you happen to snap any of the porting???

I did but they didnt come out very well lol I gotta figure out a way to shine some light in there better or something..

NogaroWonda00
08-03-2011, 09:07 PM
Holy balls you're crazy! So are you running a custom fiberglass hood with molded bumps, or cutting a channel in the hood or something? Or will the turbo and intake mani fit under the stock hood?

it should clear....hopefully lol Ive got the euro gear usa vented hood, and I would REALLY hate to have to cut it. but if it needs to happen...... Ive got a crazy idea to make it look really cool.

mkemk3
08-03-2011, 09:14 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQockSPVvnsdFLQPxxttXUofupTVqWya K_63A23mttsRSbt0AZ3

Seeing this type of stuff makes me want to cry... how I wish I could be able to do half of the stuff you're doing lol.

my thought exactly

jibberjive
08-03-2011, 09:17 PM
it should clear....hopefully lol Ive got the euro gear usa vented hood, and I would REALLY hate to have to cut it. but if it needs to happen...... Ive got a crazy idea to make it look really cool.

Yikes. Good luck. TB on the rear of the engine, or is the charge piping going underneath the IM or something?

BlakMarketKlash
08-03-2011, 09:20 PM
Well awesome none the less. cant wait to see how the injector setup goes!

NogaroWonda00
08-03-2011, 09:24 PM
Yikes. Good luck. TB on the rear of the engine, or is the charge piping going underneath the IM or something?

yep itll be a tight fit no doubt, but I should also mention, since we are doing the sump system, we will have a MUCH smaller oil pan, and we are making some billet solid motor mounts and should be able to drop the motor down about a half inch or so without messing up the geometry of the axles.

The turbo will have a bend welded on to mate up to the t-body and the IM will have a slope going towards the front of the car so it feeds straight into the IM. So no crazy plumbing. Spent 400 effing $ on a wiggins clamp for it lolz

Turbo Nerd
08-03-2011, 09:29 PM
Def subscribed.

Couple questions, is one aeromotive pump going to be able to flow that much fuel to 6 330lb injectors? That's a shit load of fuel especially using methanol. Who's tuning this thing for you, I'd imagine he's going to have a fun time getting that to idle? This beast is probably going to be idling at like 2k rpms lol.

Goodluck man I hope for the best!

Shenanigans
08-03-2011, 09:31 PM
when this car is done it will be full of winning

... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM

NogaroWonda00
08-03-2011, 09:45 PM
Def subscribed.

Couple questions, is one aeromotive pump going to be able to flow that much fuel to 6 330lb injectors? That's a shit load of fuel especially using methanol. Who's tuning this thing for you, I'd imagine he's going to have a fun time getting that to idle? This beast is probably going to be idling at like 2k rpms lol.

Goodluck man I hope for the best!

I was thinking a Weldon, or possibly a mechanical fuel pump. Which ever turns out to be the cheapest to do honestly... My tuner is a local guy, he has a dragster powered by a k24 with a 42r on it with alc. Hes made over a thousand to the ground on a dyno.

The idle should be okay honestly, its getting the temps up with alc that is hard.

With that sump system we will put a heater probe in there, heat it before and after the runs (alc is horrible for your oil, turns it into frothy milk looking stuff) and that will help the start up, while giving us a chance to boil out the methanol out of the oil after every start up. It works great on the dragster...

Shenanigans
08-03-2011, 10:08 PM
were in CO are you?

s4nicetry
08-03-2011, 10:10 PM
Subscribed, this sounds like one cool project.

Turbo Nerd
08-03-2011, 10:58 PM
I was thinking a Weldon, or possibly a mechanical fuel pump. Which ever turns out to be the cheapest to do honestly... My tuner is a local guy, he has a dragster powered by a k24 with a 42r on it with alc. Hes made over a thousand to the ground on a dyno.

The idle should be okay honestly, its getting the temps up with alc that is hard.

With that sump system we will put a heater probe in there, heat it before and after the runs (alc is horrible for your oil, turns it into frothy milk looking stuff) and that will help the start up, while giving us a chance to boil out the methanol out of the oil after every start up. It works great on the dragster...

Excellent, I know you knew what you were doing because not the average person can do this, and it seems like you know the right people. Goodluck sir.

KidGT
08-03-2011, 11:16 PM
*Mods can you please relocate this thread to the build section*

Its about that time. Shooting for 1100-1200whp @5000+ft above sea level. Dedicated track car.

So heres a partial parts list I will update as things progress..

Single Precision 72/75 Billet wheel dual ceramic ball bearing turbo
Ported 2.8L heads with +1mm Fererra valves springs and retainers (9k redline)
GRP Billet Connecting Rods & Bolts
Arias 11.1 Billet Pistons
Raceware Head Studs
Megasquirt MESIII standalone w/ 6 EGT's
Injector Solutions/Precision 330lb Side Feed Injectors -6 lines feeding each injector (no fuel rail, fuel "manifold")
Weldon Fuel pump
Custom 321 Stainless Exhaust Manifolds w/ Burns Stainless Collectors
Custom "Hi-Rise" Aluminum Intake Manifold
CNC Billet Aluminum Intake Manifold Flanges w/ O-ring slots (no more gaskets)
Twin Tail 44mm Wastegates
Precision BOV
Accufab 90mm Throttle Body
LS1 Coilpacks

[wrench]

Megasquirt?!?! Thats a name I havent heard of in a long time. I used it to tune my Probe back in the day. So cheap yet, super effective.

I always thought it was way more for cars like that with no aftermarket support.

Turbo Nerd
08-04-2011, 03:07 AM
Who megasquirts a probe?

diabolical1
08-04-2011, 05:04 AM
lofty goals, man. you keep up with those pornographic shots of custom intakes and talking dirty to perverts like me with things like dry sump, big turbo, 11.0:1 pistons and methanol ... people might actually take you seriously. [;)]

GURUMAN
08-04-2011, 05:09 AM
[up]I'm really Impressed !

Keet it up, your going even deeper than I am...

11.0:1

Cant wait to see more.

Reich
08-04-2011, 06:35 AM
Ohhh now I see... no kiding here, that's a serious build. Very impressed.
As for the sludge in oil, I'll ask my friend Martin Tanguay. His turbo dragster and drag car both runs on alcohol. And this was part of his issue back then. I know he found an oil recipe that prevent this. He said his oil last longer that way but I just don't remember what it is. I'll see him at pont rouge track Saturday I'll be back with the info. Good luck by the way... Nice build.

Cannon@RAI
08-04-2011, 06:47 AM
Thumbs up man this is great!
-Cannon

gearhead1186
08-04-2011, 06:51 AM
serious list of parts. best of luck!

you didnt mention what cams you will be using.

Chris@EPL
08-04-2011, 07:05 AM
This build sounds like a lot of fun. Its nice to see someone build a dedicated drag S4. Did you mention what you will be using for axles and rear diff?

Evan

McGovs2.7TB5
08-04-2011, 07:25 AM
Subscribed, hopefully I get to see it action live. Good luck on your build.

Austonwerner4
08-04-2011, 07:25 AM
What was your stage 3 set up like?

DiscoPotato
08-04-2011, 07:27 AM
Thats one big ass snail.

NogaroWonda00
08-04-2011, 07:28 AM
This build sounds like a lot of fun. Its nice to see someone build a dedicated drag S4. Did you mention what you will be using for axles and rear diff?

Evan

I'm thinking I'll have to give DSS a call for axels, and possibly a modified mark Williams rear end.


serious list of parts. best of luck!

you didnt mention what cams you will be using.

We were going to try and use the 2.8/2.7, that may not be enough [:/], that's one of the loose ends (of many at this point).


Thanks everyone!! it been 3 years since this car was running, and my boss/fabricator/Jeff almost threw the towel in on running his shop. Needless to say I am so happy with the progress we've made since the begining of June.

dubzackvr6
08-04-2011, 07:30 AM
Very nice :)

What's happening with those ko4's?

NogaroWonda00
08-04-2011, 07:31 AM
What was your stage 3 set up like?

The noggy had the full awe k04 deal, smic's awe ots etc.. Nothing special.



Very nice :)

What's happening with those ko4's?

Sold them to a local a while ago!

Austonwerner4
08-04-2011, 07:32 AM
The noggy had the full awe k04 deal, smic's awe ots etc.. Nothing special.

You got a PM

AudiSportB5S4
08-04-2011, 08:18 AM
Love the comparison picture of the turbo next to the K04s haha...

Best of luck completing the build!

S4te
08-04-2011, 08:31 AM
Sweet build man...looks like you know how to do a little fabricating. My question for you good sir is with a goal of 1100hp and solid billet motor mounts how do you plan on bracing the chassis?

wdbdy2000s4
08-04-2011, 08:37 AM
Sorry if I missed it...What lifters do you plan on running?

NogaroWonda00
08-04-2011, 08:37 AM
Sweet build man...looks like you know how to do a little fabricating. My question for you good sir is with a goal of 1100hp and solid billet motor mounts how do you plan on bracing the chassis?

10 pt chromolly cage should do the trick lol

NogaroWonda00
08-04-2011, 08:51 AM
Sorry if I missed it...What lifters do you plan on running?

I'm just using the stock full floating buckets. from what I understand the oil pressure ties into the buckets and provides the correct pressure between the cam and valve as you build oil pressure. if that makes sense? lol

I RAC3
08-04-2011, 09:04 AM
subscribed! can't wait to see how this build turns out, looks sick!

Reich
08-04-2011, 09:25 AM
I'm just using the stock full floating buckets. from what I understand the oil pressure ties into the buckets and provides the correct pressure between the cam and valve as you build oil pressure. if that makes sense? lol

I wouldn't run stock hydrolic lifters if I was you. You're building a very big turbo engine and thus high rpm power range. My concern here is that your stock lifters might do a ''pump up'' at very high rpm and so creating negative valve clerance. The pistons will destroy your valves if this happens. My 2 cents. But you can do anything you want. Unless what you were saying was a joke...
Good luck.

034Motorsport
08-04-2011, 09:28 AM
Wow. That is a lofty goal! Our GTi is capable of over 1000whp with the 45R, but that's at sea level!

I assume you are going to tub the rear end then? RWD?

Let me know if 034Motorsport can help in anyway. =)


I wouldn't run stock hydrolic lifters if I was you. You're building a very big turbo engine and thus high rpm power range. My concern here is that your stock lifters might do a ''pump up'' at very high rpm and so creating negative valve clerance. The pistons will destroy your valves if this happens. My 2 cents. But you can do anything you want. Unless what you were saying was a joke...
Good luck.

I agree. I wouldn't even go to a high revving 800whp motor at sea level without solid lifters. They require a lot of machine work, but you are building a purpose built car; I wouldn't skimp on something as important as the valvetrain.

AudiA4_20T
08-04-2011, 11:34 AM
I asked Mantis this and I'm going to ask you as well. Why shoot for 1100whp when no one has even done >700 in an S4?

Capt. Obvious
08-04-2011, 11:42 AM
Seems like a nice little weekend build. [up]

It's a pity you aren't doing something a little less run-of-the-mill though, people always seem to take the easy way out around here instead of doing something truly different that pushes the limits of the platform.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdhWmTOF8s2wziqI8885sRL0zW9QIgZ tnh7rlPRiCRxlFCisk2Qw

wdbdy2000s4
08-04-2011, 11:48 AM
I asked Mantis this and I'm going to ask you as well. Why shoot for 1100whp when no one has even done >700 in an S4?
Why not? Big singles are just starting to come into play. By removing the strict packaging restrictions associated with twins you free yourself up to use larger/more efficient turbos. While I think the goals seem a little lofty, there is nothing wrong with aiming high. The s4 section could use some serious builds about now. It seems like most of the pioneers and OGaudi guys are leaving or moving to different platforms so it's nice to see someone trying to make a fast car. based on the fab skills I imagine he's not completely foreign to building a car.

NYCVR6
08-04-2011, 12:37 PM
Awsome plan, but reaching this goal will need DEEEEP pockets.... Definitely will want solid lifters and I'd at the very least drop the megasquirt crap and put Motec in. Good luck, would love to see this project finished.

julex
08-04-2011, 12:51 PM
9k on stock lifters is really asking for troubles. That's assuming proper valve train with upgraded springs and titanium retainers. You might be able to touch 9k but for sake of preventing a disaster you should not spin the motor with stock lifters to more than 8.5k or so.

You should get solid lifters for 9k+ RPMs range although they are PITA to set up but they last for a long time even at racing applications.

S4 00 2.7
08-04-2011, 01:10 PM
That is a sick list.

Evilevo
08-04-2011, 01:29 PM
I asked Mantis this and I'm going to ask you as well. Why shoot for 1100whp when no one has even done >700 in an S4?

700whp has been twice or 3 times IIRC. AMD did it with 770Rs and C16. 708AWHP IIRC. ASP claimed to do it on a 3.0L 2871R car. And I don't remember how much power WMS made on their car, but I would assume it was somewhere close.


Eitherway, a big single is going to be way more efficient at high power levels.

NogaroWonda00
08-04-2011, 02:03 PM
I'm talking to 034, we will get some damn solid lifters.
I wasn't aware honestly, but I'm pretty glad I posted this. You learn something new every day, and I rather address that now vs not have done anything!

my goals are high, but it's not a gas car. I can't say that enough. If you look at "the fast" drag cars theres lots of people making big power on alc. If I said I want to make 1000whp on 91 e85 etc yes I'd be a fool. I know I live a mile high, it's not easy to make power.

Spooled1.8
08-04-2011, 03:48 PM
Awesome build, will definitely be watching this. You'll have to go to the Texas Mile when your all done to show everyone down there whats up [up]

bw86
08-04-2011, 03:51 PM
.[hail][hail][hail][hail][hail][hail].

Jibby
08-04-2011, 04:13 PM
Awesome project. Local single turbo car has already cracked 800whp on e85 and so I don't think you are off base for this build as you have a bigger turbo and are doing straight meth.

034Motorsport
08-04-2011, 04:25 PM
I'm talking to 034, we will get some damn solid lifters.
I wasn't aware honestly, but I'm pretty glad I posted this. You learn something new every day, and I rather address that now vs not have done anything!

my goals are high, but it's not a gas car. I can't say that enough. If you look at "the fast" drag cars theres lots of people making big power on alc. If I said I want to make 1000whp on 91 e85 etc yes I'd be a fool. I know I live a mile high, it's not easy to make power.

Looking forward to helping out!

Just to recap basically what I told NogaroWonda00, solid lifters are basically mandatory for revving our motors beyond 8500k. If you are doing 8500 consistently, the risk of hydraulic lifters is not worth it.

There are a variety of advantages to solid lifters, which basically has been pointed out already. The two main advantages is their height and their weight. By reducing weight, you reduce inertia, and allow things to move quicker and therefore higher revving. With proper supporting mods, you could rev past 10,000k relatively easy with solid lifter and appropriate valvetrain.

However, the primary advantage (as was mentioned earlier) is that you don't need to worry about hitting the lifter too hard and forcing out all the oil. Because they are hydraulic, they work on oil pressure, which is what takes up the slack so to speak. As rpms get higher, temps get higher, and stress gets higher, its more and more likely you will force the supporting oil out, forcing the lifter farther and farther down, which obviously leads to terrible things. Solid lifters are toleranced to between 10,000th and 8000th of an inch from the cam to the lifter, so that there is no oil to force out. This is why they require custom machine work, since each lifter has to be toleranced to the specific height of the cam lobe, valve, etc.

Another big advantage is that solid lifters enable you to use a drastically more aggressive and sharp cam profile; you do not need to change cams, but they allow you even more.

MDJ
08-04-2011, 04:47 PM
SICK.

jibberjive
08-04-2011, 07:14 PM
I'm talking to 034, we will get some damn solid lifters. Yeah, you really don't want valve float after putting this much work into everything.

my goals are high, but it's not a gas car. I can't say that enough.
People are talking like this is your run-of-the-mill GT build. With the alc, custom EVERYTHING, huge turbo and standalone, you should easily be above 700whp.

wdbdy2000s4
08-04-2011, 08:37 PM
As rpms get higher, temps get higher, and stress gets higher, its more and more likely you will force the supporting oil out, forcing the lifter farther and farther down, which obviously leads to terrible things.
It's just as likely that the lifters will remain filled with oil when they should be retracting, which would cause valve lag and piston contact.

you're correct essentially that hydraulic lifters can not adjust fast enough for 9k rpms on these motors. We're not running 4gs. [:)]

bigern45
08-04-2011, 10:27 PM
holy shit chris, i know we talked about this a while ago when i bought your AWE's.. but jesus christ.. i had NO IDEA you were going this deep/big..

congrats and good luck. i really hope it works out..

diabolical1
08-04-2011, 11:30 PM
Solid lifters are toleranced to between 10,000th and 8000th of an inch from the cam to the lifter, so that there is no oil to force out. This is why they require custom machine work, since each lifter has to be toleranced to the specific height of the cam lobe, valve, etc.
thanks for this a-ha moment! i think you finally helped me understand why they are more noisy than hydraulic lifters.


People are talking like this is your run-of-the-mill GT build. With the alc, custom EVERYTHING, huge turbo and standalone, you should easily be above 700whp.
i'm quoting this simply because i actually believe in your path to your goal and after reading my last post, i can see how it might not be clear that i do.

NogaroWonda00
08-05-2011, 12:38 AM
Someone said something about alc and idling.... Just so happens we have another big turbo "shop-car" that runs on VP M1 Methanol, pretty much the same idea we have for my car, except the dragster was supposed to be a compounded 42/60r on a old trailblazer 6 cylinder.

I started the video late, but I promise all we did was heat the oil (heater probe in the sump res.) for 5 min prior to the start. It does idle funny for a few seconds but watch the video.

the driver is my tuner, and this is his toy






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q4fOD_M8NI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD8ssUEyTis




He isnt going balls to the wall out on the street (he needs a little giggle-gas to git-r-goin), just want to point that out. We like to have fun not be completely wreckless[:)] He made 700hp on a dyno, but it definitely making 4 digits at the track. 2.4L <2.8L...




holy shit chris, i know we talked about this a while ago when i bought your AWE's.. but jesus christ.. i had NO IDEA you were going this deep/big..

congrats and good luck. i really hope it works out..

Thanks man, youll always have a "piece of my car" [:)]

I try to be modest, no one likes a showoff[;)]


It will happen, I am determined to make it happen. I have no deadlines to meet (sure it would be nice to make it to WF and TX2K12, but it will be done when its done.) I plan on taking my time.

Rash decisions never work well for me lol


Side note: made some progress on the intake mani today will try and post some pics tomorrow.[wrench]

flyingfish2626
08-08-2011, 10:49 AM
Cant wait to see more pics, looks like your definitively doing it right! We need to do beers this week and catch up.

NogaroWonda00
08-15-2011, 01:09 PM
Cant wait to see more pics, looks like your definitively doing it right! We need to do beers this week and catch up.

Yeah we should text me when you get off one of these nights... its on your way back into town out by the old air port... Jeff and I need a ride in the Avant!


Going to have a few more pics to add later today...

getslideways
08-19-2011, 11:38 AM
were you able to snap those new pics? awesome looking build

shorterthanrich
08-24-2011, 06:22 AM
Yeah, wow.

getslideways
10-26-2011, 02:23 PM
updates?

NogaroWonda00
11-05-2011, 04:13 PM
Yes the time has come for an update I suppose... We had a stupid E55 AMG in the shop for two and a half months getting bolt ons installed.

...and I have been busy working and doing school, and havent even been a regular on the forum anymore. There has been progress made, mostly with parts that we needed to track down.

According to Jeff (welder/fabricator) we should be able to have the intake manifold done here within the next couple weeks depending on if he gets distracted.

the exhaust manifolds are cut and prepped to be welded, and when the intake mani is all finish welded we can begin routing the y pipe to the divided t4 . But we machined the outter portion of the throttle body and the inside of a v band lamp welded them together, got the other half of the v band on the turbo housing (it cam with a v band on it but we like the vibrant v band with the step cut out to know its locked in the correct position..

welded up all the holes on the t body as well, tripple passed the intake manifold, and machined out a flange to connect the t body to the intake mani.

I will be more prudent with my updates from here on out. the plan is to have the car track ready by spring/summer!

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6031/6316538024_e01118d225_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6316538024/)
IMG_0424 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6316538024/)

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my muffler [:D]
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finished triple pass welds

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jibberjive
11-05-2011, 05:25 PM
Woot! Nice upgrades Chris!

NogaroWonda00
12-02-2011, 12:48 PM
December update!

Intake manifold is complete! I dont have the finished pics yet but here is everything being tacked in..
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IMG_0444 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6443114489/)

now we are working on getting this procharger valve welded onto the "boost pipe" ie the compressor housing.. all the pieces are cut for the exhaust manifolds so those need to be welded.. then its time for the motor build, wiring the new harness in and getting the sound deadening material out of the trunk and floor of the car.

last but not least we have to make a skeleton for the front end, as im not going to be using the OE front clip, this should make pulling the motor out easier..

IF all goes well we should be done fabbing by the end of Jan and have ample time to figure out who is going to help me out with a bulletproof transmission and dif's, or else I may have to go RWD! So if any of you guys are serious about helping this build stay quattro lets do some work and get this thing down the 1/4!!!

sean1.8t
12-02-2011, 01:48 PM
you going A/W inter cooling? trying to wrap my head around what I'm seeing here..

and contact USP/JHM about bulletproofing. USP went R34 skyline driveline. i bet that is MEGA pricey.. if i had a decent driveline budget for a project like this, i'd put in a B6/7 driveline. from the transmission to the rear diff. i bet the only thing custom would have to be the driveshaft. in all relativity shouldn't be too much money. JHM will have some ideas about bulletproofing your existing setup or can help you find B6/7 driveline parts I'm sure

NogaroWonda00
12-02-2011, 02:20 PM
you going A/W inter cooling? trying to wrap my head around what I'm seeing here..

well its hard to find a place to start. so basically the original plan was to do a h20 to air intercooler, but after a lot of thought and logic.. Logic being that we would use Q/C16 gas, thus requiring pricy injectors and fuel pumps, and expensive race day expenses.. On top of that there's a good chance that would be a limiting factor of my build, and we very well may need a second set of injectors to provide the fuel needed.

it became a huge problem, because of the cost of big injectors and the fact you'd literally end up with twice as much shit to go wrong or not work properly.

so we ditched that idea, and was part of the reason things halted for couple months. I didn't know if I could keep up financially, and didn't want to get myself into something that was out of my reach without knowing we can get this done for X amount of dollars..

anyways my buddy kyle uses the side feed injectors and actually was part of the team that developed them for Woodward. what they are is an injector for natural gas engines (we have buses here that run on nat gas) and they are modified to work on cars with this side feed deal (I will get pics of the injectors so you guys can see this).. but you can run insane fuel pressure out of these things consistently.

they are literally 330LB (yes LB) injectors so 6 of em. and since Q16 is expensive, M5 Methanol isnt, so we are going to use that.

Therefore we dont need a intercooled intake manifold anymore. the alc burns colder, and will allow us to run extreme tunes, and be safer, while also being less complex. keeping it simple stupid (KISS as my old hockey coach used to say) isnt a bad thing. sometimes less is more.

basically the footnotes are:
money, injectors for gas are expensive and would overcomplicated things. and alc will allow us to run in a safer "window of opportunity" tuning wise.

and incase youre still confused about it, the turbo will blow directly to the throttle body, into the intake manifold, get split up, and get funneled into the bells that we used where the injectors will spray.

needed to do the intake manifold first to have a fixed location for the turbo, next is the exhaust manifolds and exhaust.

I hope that makes sense lol....

NogaroWonda00
12-02-2011, 02:26 PM
and contact USP/JHM about bulletproofing. USP went R34 skyline driveline. i bet that is MEGA pricey.. if i had a decent driveline budget for a project like this, i'd put in a B6/7 driveline. from the transmission to the rear diff. i bet the only thing custom would have to be the driveshaft. in all relativity shouldn't be too much money. JHM will have some ideas about bulletproofing your existing setup or can help you find B6/7 driveline parts I'm sure

Yeah JHM/USP slipped my mind... I will get in touch with someone over there about it and figure something out.. I wouldnt mind waiting for a couple weeks to have more completed pics to show them... people dont believe you when you say "hey I want a transmission for a 1100whp s4"

MLJS4
12-02-2011, 02:41 PM
b6/b7 driveline sucks dumb ideal. the R34 rear diff cost $500 there every where on the 240sx forums. they are bullet proof.

NYCVR6
12-02-2011, 03:50 PM
Very nice build.. Big turbo you have there, what is the A/R on the turbine housing? This car looks like it's going to be a beast.

jibberjive
12-02-2011, 06:05 PM
people dont believe you when you say "hey I want a transmission for a 1100whp s4"
LOL[>_<]

Hey Chris, if you want I'll run some CFD on that intake design, so you can see how the air is going to be from runner to runner and the velocity etc, just shoot me the physical dimensions if so. It shouldn't be too difficult to model with all of those flat planes.

NogaroWonda00
12-02-2011, 10:14 PM
1.28 A/R

NYCVR6
12-03-2011, 02:10 PM
1.28 A/R

That's a big boy.. I'm interested to see how it spools and how the power band will look. I'm keeping an eye on this one!

NogaroWonda00
12-03-2011, 02:54 PM
That's a big boy.. I'm interested to see how it spools and how the power band will look. I'm keeping an eye on this one!

We have a local guy running this turbo on a K24.. It spools quite nice for him [:)] I'm thinking the added displacement, and a 10,000rpm red line should make for a good combo!

sean1.8t
12-03-2011, 03:10 PM
b6/b7 driveline sucks dumb ideal. the R34 rear diff cost $500 there every where on the 240sx forums. they are bullet proof.

i can see your expansive depths of knowledge, precede you....[rolleyes]

NYCVR6
12-03-2011, 10:49 PM
We have a local guy running this turbo on a K24.. It spools quite nice for him [:)] I'm thinking the added displacement, and a 10,000rpm red line should make for a good combo!

Especially the RPM's, i didn't know you planned to rev that high, I'm interested to see how the heads flow at that rpm. Chris Miller runs a custom pte 72mm on his B series, 45+psi and 1200+whp... The key to the hondas is how much they can spin the motor... I assume you're going with solid lifters? Regardless of the launch because I assume you're going to run an anti lag or 2 step, The gearing sucks on these cars, but if you can successfully rev to 10k, it might just be enough to keep you in boost with that huge turbo.. I love it man, very nice..

NogaroWonda00
12-04-2011, 01:23 AM
Especially the RPM's, i didn't know you planned to rev that high, I'm interested to see how the heads flow at that rpm. Chris Miller runs a custom pte 72mm on his B series, 45+psi and 1200+whp... The key to the hondas is how much they can spin the motor... I assume you're going with solid lifters? Regardless of the launch because I assume you're going to run an anti lag or 2 step, The gearing sucks on these cars, but if you can successfully rev to 10k, it might just be enough to keep you in boost with that huge turbo.. I love it man, very nice..

Yeah going solid litters.. And we did porting on the heads (opened the 2.8 heads up significantly, port matched) so I'm very curious too! Speaking of 45+psi.. There is another local (b series guy with the Garret 42r) here also makes 50psi at the track up here! (8500ft d/a logged run at bandimere) he's only making 750whp though lol..

My fabricator was the person who originally built that Pro front PFI car that was out in NJ (iirc I posted in your thread you made..) and built Kevin Warrens black SRT4 that ran a 9 out there a few years back. Plus he's done tons of other cars, and he's super excited about doing the S4.. He split with the PFI guys 2 years ago and this is the first race car he's done out of his new shop, and wants to blow PFI and everyone's doors off.. Which is bad for them, and good for me [:)]

jibberjive
12-04-2011, 06:32 PM
Your guys' avatars are too similar[:)]

NYCVR6
12-06-2011, 05:11 PM
Yeah going solid litters.. And we did porting on the heads (opened the 2.8 heads up significantly, port matched) so I'm very curious too! Speaking of 45+psi.. There is another local (b series guy with the Garret 42r) here also makes 50psi at the track up here! (8500ft d/a logged run at bandimere) he's only making 750whp though lol..

My fabricator was the person who originally built that Pro front PFI car that was out in NJ (iirc I posted in your thread you made..) and built Kevin Warrens black SRT4 that ran a 9 out there a few years back. Plus he's done tons of other cars, and he's super excited about doing the S4.. He split with the PFI guys 2 years ago and this is the first race car he's done out of his new shop, and wants to blow PFI and everyone's doors off.. Which is bad for them, and good for me [:)]

Nice, sounds like you have it well thought out.. I'm keeping an eye on this for sure.

NogaroWonda00
01-15-2012, 05:34 PM
Your guys' avatars are too similar[:)]

Yeah I realized that lol. this one is better now, besides I have a 76mm now instead of that measly 72mm[;)]

And some TiAL goodness for you guys!
[:)]
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7162/6688757323_2873bb8c7d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6688757323/)
Precision 76/75 Tial V-band housing (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nogarorain/6688757323/)


-NYCVR6
It's a 76/75 1.44A/R now...

GURUMAN
01-16-2012, 11:56 AM
Serious Turbo

NogaroWonda00
01-30-2012, 10:10 PM
So here are some updated pics of the intake mani, and a set of custom solid Titanium motor mounts (.060 wall Ti tube, .0130 thick Ti plate w/ aerospace Ti bolts and nuts.) now we can get started on exhaust manifolds! And some high res shots of the 76/75 and that gorgeous TiAL turbine housing![:p]

Everything is in no particular order, Flickr is acting funny w/ the links right now..

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cheers![wrench]

jibberjive
01-30-2012, 11:26 PM
Nice, props to your fabricator. I personally wouldn't want to be dealing with titanium stuff ha.

NogaroWonda00
01-31-2012, 12:10 AM
Nice, props to your fabricator. I personally wouldn't want to be dealing with titanium stuff ha.

It was his idea... He has a collection of metal tubes and shit, its nuts to put it simply...like aerospace bolts, who the F has those lying around in a Tupperware?! Allegedly the we're leftover missile components, or at least that's the word on the street.

michael66899
01-31-2012, 01:10 AM
Nice, I love TI! The guy who does all my tig work has started to get pretty damn good with it and should have a couple cool pieces on my single turbo car when its all finished, well if I ever finish it that is..

NogaroWonda00
03-08-2012, 10:30 PM
Nice, I love TI! The guy who does all my tig work has started to get pretty damn good with it and should have a couple cool pieces on my single turbo car when its all finished.

I have ~7"x12" left of the 12"x12"of the Ti plate left.. Sooo gimme some suggestions as to what else we should make with the rest of that plate.


well if I ever finish it that is..
I totally feel you on this! It hasn't been a full year yet, but I'm starting to get that feeling too. But the one thing I've learned throughout this ordeal, is not to rush things no matter how impatient you may feel. Its not nice for your fabricator, or the quality if you rush.

Like Dora says "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming!" and eventually it'll all come together and be twice as bad ass as you imagined!


Some news; our lease was up at the shop.. Property value has increased around here, so the rent was set to increase significantly. I don't want to fool anyone this isn't my full time job, or the fabricator (Jeff's). It's a hobby, and he likes working on cool shit because he's been welding bicycle frames full time and it's a PITA w/ that thin walled tube.

So needless to say we moved shop to a friends shop at his house. I'll get some pics of the other toys there (ie supra, 240sx x2 old and newer, and 2x wide body SRT4 neons... And he's got a pretty sick golf cart.) and updates of the exhaust manifolds.

Plus I might be moving to Cupertino, CA if I can get this internship/schooling locked down, at the end of the summer.

But I'm going to finish this car either way, so Max@034Motorsport be prepared! You might be building the motor/doing the tuning after all.

034Motorsport
03-09-2012, 10:15 AM
I have ~7"x12" left of the 12"x12"of the Ti plate left.. Sooo gimme some suggestions as to what else we should make with the rest of that plate.


I totally feel you on this! It hasn't been a full year yet, but I'm starting to get that feeling too. But the one thing I've learned throughout this ordeal, is not to rush things no matter how impatient you may feel. Its not nice for your fabricator, or the quality if you rush.

Like Dora says "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming!" and eventually it'll all come together and be twice as bad ass as you imagined!


Some news; our lease was up at the shop.. Property value has increased around here, so the rent was set to increase significantly. I don't want to fool anyone this isn't my full time job, or the fabricator (Jeff's). It's a hobby, and he likes working on cool shit because he's been welding bicycle frames full time and it's a PITA w/ that thin walled tube.

So needless to say we moved shop to a friends shop at his house. I'll get some pics of the other toys there (ie supra, 240sx x2 old and newer, and 2x wide body SRT4 neons... And he's got a pretty sick golf cart.) and updates of the exhaust manifolds.

Plus I might be moving to Cupertino, CA if I can get this internship/schooling locked down, at the end of the summer.

But I'm going to finish this car either way, so Max@034Motorsport be prepared! You might be building the motor/doing the tuning after all.

Hah! I saw the Cupertino part and was going to say something; didn't even see my name under it until I started writing.

Would be great to have you out here!

And I highlighted some wise words in your last post as well; they are 100% true.

NogaroWonda00
03-21-2012, 01:33 PM
Hah! I saw the Cupertino part and was going to say something; didn't even see my name under it until I started writing.

Would be great to have you out here!

And I highlighted some wise words in your last post as well; they are 100% true.


I will let you know as things progress.. I'm going to be looking at orange county at the beginning of April, but hope to get a dedicated trip out to the bay area later on.. Trying to find the best fit for me as far as schooling goes.


Good news! Made a big dent in my quest for parts today!

Here's the list:
Peterson 5 stage dry sump oil pump and a moroso oil resivoir
Weldon mechanical fuel pump and adjustable fuel pressure regulator
Honeywell 4 bar map sensor
And a bunch of AN fittings!

As soon as we get the oil/fuel pump location set, we can finish the exhaust manifolds and start on making an oil pan!

Time to get to work![wrench]

Mantis
03-21-2012, 03:50 PM
But the one thing I've learned throughout this ordeal, is not to rush things no matter how impatient you may feel. Its not nice for your fabricator, or the quality if you rush.

Like Dora says "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming!" and eventually it'll all come together and be twice as bad ass as you imagined!



While I agree with the sentiment of not rushing or pushing a project, I must say that when timelines/deadlines start going out the window because the fabricator has bitten off more than they can chew, it may be time to part ways with the fabiractor.

I am in no way implying this is the case with your build, just pointing out that deadlines are deadlines for a reason, thus the reason I fired my first fabricator, that and his absolutely brutal communication skills. (failed to respond to texts emails or phone calls for over 2 weeks at a time)

Your build is amazing, keep plugging away

NogaroWonda00
03-23-2012, 05:38 PM
There's no communication issues here. Its more or less the amount of custom parts has increased significantly as things have progressed. So things take time to get everything sorted and a finalized plan/idea..


For instance the exhaust manifolds got put on the back burner because I didn't have the oil pump in hand.. We didn't know how big or how much space to leave for it. So now that we have the pump, we can mount it and then have no surprises!

BTW- The fuel pump I ended up getting was an Aeromotive Mechanical fuel pump/adjustable regulator.. All are in hand and the fuel pump is attached to the oil pump as of last night! So as soon as the location is figured out and mounted ill post an update or two, all I've got now are iPhone pics and those don't do it justice!

ChrisS4
04-30-2012, 10:59 PM
Bro when can I come see this beast?!?

MLJS4
08-19-2012, 03:20 AM
Updates?

britishturbo
12-31-2012, 07:08 AM
How's this beast coming???

Jibby
12-31-2012, 10:31 AM
Looks like it isn't. Bummer, this was a cool build. Hopefully it gets finished.

Don Supreme
12-31-2012, 02:12 PM
Looks like it isn't. Bummer, this was a cool build. Hopefully it gets finished.

Pretty much par for the course with builds like this.

British turbo is going against the grain.

Jibby
12-31-2012, 03:25 PM
Our scene bats about 50/50 for finishing these big home run builds.

britishturbo
12-31-2012, 09:34 PM
Pretty much par for the course with builds like this.

British turbo is going against the grain.

I like to be the exception to the norm :-P


Our scene bats about 50/50 for finishing these big home run builds.

The resources and time needed can overwhelm some I think. It's a shame really...

Meow
01-01-2013, 05:38 AM
If it ever does get running lets hope his intake manifold holds up!

Unlike...


http://i831.photobucket.com/albums/zz234/UkuRiSh/IMG_1525.jpg

britishturbo
01-01-2013, 05:46 AM
If it ever does get running lets hope his intake manifold holds up!

Unlike...

That intake looks hungry :-P

Luvshok
01-09-2013, 08:03 PM
Is tht intake failure do to shitty material, shitty welds, or Boost Pressure? Or a combination of those?

britishturbo
01-09-2013, 09:18 PM
Is tht intake failure do to shitty material, shitty welds, or Boost Pressure? Or a combination of those?

Looks like the material was too thin. So under the pressure it bowed up and broke the weld.

dubzackvr6
01-12-2013, 07:29 AM
I see crazy lack of fusion on that weld on the intake.

britishturbo
01-12-2013, 07:59 AM
I see crazy lack of fusion on that weld on the intake.

Yeah between the material thickness and the lack of penetration... it didn't stand much of a chance ;-)

Meow
01-31-2013, 05:54 AM
Any updates on this thing?

NogaroWonda00
02-08-2013, 01:41 PM
Sorry guys lol... I haven't been on the forums in a while! I'm going to school full time and really only getting to work on the car when I come home for breaks and summer. But I've been building my part collection during the meantime and still have a ways to go but will get there eventually..


Ill be honest its not the biggest priority right now so I'm happy with taking my time.

Meow
06-04-2013, 12:22 AM
[QUOTE=NogaroWonda00;8429499

Ill be honest its not the biggest priority right now so I'm happy with taking my time.[/QUOTE]
well once you get some time and get it all sorted share some info in this thread- http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/543729-Official-Single-turbo-S4-car-consolidation-thread

hope to see it get sorted.

MLJS4
12-08-2015, 09:11 PM
bro where'd you go....

MarlinFoundNemo
12-16-2015, 01:55 PM
bro where'd you go....

School consumed him. He ded. :/ RIP.

MacDaddy
12-16-2015, 02:34 PM
What a hair brained build...