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DRAKLORE
04-29-2011, 08:20 PM
So I' got this gt3071r and I've slowly been working up to a big turbo. It just came in tonight and I'm pretty stoked to put it in! I will be diy just like everything else on the car so I figured I post pics as things came together cause I really couldn't find much for the 2.0t gt3071r as far as build up threads...
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/DSC00238.jpg car like a year ago lol, sorry I'm not gonna pull out a photo of it with that grille! I'm sure someones got it saved in a special folder hahaha
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/4b58b766.jpg put in the fmic, I cleaned off the Godspeed cause I thought it was gay like a week later.. Lol
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/029a757f.jpg went to a 3" exhaust setup. I think was like the third diff setup I ran on the car!
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/9ae26ce3.jpg installed the BSR opti flow intake and heat shield.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/2548eac0.jpg tore a hole in my g dv
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/4b31d8eb.jpg did my own PVC revamp, works amaZing!
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/3469f9aa.jpg got my gt3071r kit in today just trying to figure out the puzzle, came with knock sensors? And two weird step down pieces?? Right here...
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/3f397e5f.jpgdon't know what he used those for? Also I'm missing a bunch of in between stuff like my gay grille tha I bought at first. Then I got tuned stage 2 revo at waterfest. I have the kmd hpfp. Also installed a nuespeed torque damper and nuespeed underdrive. And right now how im going insane in a tuner dead zone in Biloxi ms! Right now I'm waiting to get a diverter valve relocator and some 1/4 silicone tubing. And then lastly im wondering what I'm gonna do because the guy who had the kit previos to Geoffafa put a different flange on the test pipe??

DRAKLORE
04-29-2011, 08:22 PM
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/e50d993c.jpg car looks like this now :-)

DRAKLORE
04-29-2011, 08:24 PM
Horrible pic of the backhttp://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/77b2ae86.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/9ec128ed.jpg

pw211
04-29-2011, 08:25 PM
Where you were when you first came here <<<<<<<<<<<<<< where you are now.

Not a fan of the uber blacked out, would love to see you lost the headlight tint, but its a huge step from where you were haha. Don't like the bumpers now that I see them.... [headbang]


Almost had it. At least it will be quick

4RingPower
04-29-2011, 08:50 PM
VERY nice....................I might just make that my screen saver if that's ok. Very well done. How much power do you think you're making?

MCT9891
04-29-2011, 10:07 PM
Can't wait to make my build thread. Good luck! And thanks for the rs4 injectors!

DRAKLORE
04-30-2011, 12:04 AM
i will try to get some hd pics up, as you can see its iphone qaulity lol. not sure how much power, its bassically stg2 revo now, i might go to there stg2+ tune while i wait to get the rest of the pieces for the turbo, bassically im finding out now that they have no file for the gt3071r so i am going to either try to make it by with a ko4 revo file until i can afford to get vast or unitronic. the tune is the only thing holding me back, spent all my money on the parts up to this point lol

viziers
04-30-2011, 04:47 AM
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT BUY the ATP DV relocator as it is NOT compatable with the piston DV you will need to contact Eurojet for their S3 Dv fitting!!!!! I battled this for a while until I figured out that it does not make a complete seal....


http://www.eurojetracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MK5DV%2DK




vizi

Mc Suly
04-30-2011, 09:55 AM
Looks good, Keep it up.

Damn those tires are thin, whats the setup?

DRAKLORE
04-30-2011, 01:18 PM
DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT BUY the ATP DV relocator as it is NOT compatable with the piston DV you will need to contact Eurojet for their S3 Dv fitting!!!!! I battled this for a while until I figured out that it does not make a complete seal....


http://www.eurojetracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MK5DV%2DK




vizi
Holy cows, thank you so much, I was literally about to purchase the ATP one when I saw this post!!! I have seen that they don't mate with the forge dv... Glad I didn't make that mistake! Thx for the link[wrench]

DRAKLORE
04-30-2011, 10:31 PM
Learned something new, found out the flange on the turbo test pipe is a "v-band" found the hardware to convert my exhaust to the flange for about 60$ 30 for a clamp and 30$ for the flange! Found it at >>http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1022_1125 thanks Tucker!

rick1.8t
04-30-2011, 10:35 PM
I remember the day you posted that post with the disgusting grill....... Great progress and amazing car now! Even though I know everyone will say "its your car what you want" I'm glad you went with "what looks good" Can't wait to see the final product. Great job man!!! +1

DRAKLORE
04-30-2011, 10:35 PM
Also found the solution to my dv problem, was looking at AWE tuning dv adapter housing which I'm 90% sure fits the revision d dv. But I don't think they will part there kit which I don't need any of it. Soo was looking on craiglist and found a forge splitter... For freakin 50$ it's gotta be a scam but I emailed him anyways lol
http://nh.craigslist.org/pts/2347983979.html

Leo14
04-30-2011, 10:48 PM
Nice! Glad to see another build popping up! You're car was my background for a while btw, that first pic "as the car sits now :-)"
I like what you did with the whole blacked out theme, it intrigues me

DRAKLORE
04-30-2011, 11:17 PM
Looks good, Keep it up.

Damn those tires are thin, whats the setup?
225/35/19 had falken 452s.... Never buy those tires IMHO. Broke three belts in three weeks...[headbang] running exclaims, not bad for the money.

Thanks LEO! I change my mind on this car weekly, I think I know what I want, and im so impatient I do it or half ass it, then I see a member ride and get sick of what I've done and hate myself for it... Thus explains the amount of bodywork I really need! Maybe if I spent less time touching the damn thing lol[wrench]

DRAKLORE
05-01-2011, 03:38 PM
Found some v-band flanges and silicone piping at http://www.siliconeintakes.com/ . Also got a clamp. Now I'm just waiting on a reply about the forge splitter and should be ready to start assembling this beast. All in all should start taking form in a week when I start to get pieces in. In the meanwhile I will be contacting revo, vast and Unitronic again till I figure out the route I'm gonna take for the tune.

DRAKLORE
05-01-2011, 06:50 PM
Heres something some people prob won't thumbsup on but it's my car lol here's my clean gps install
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/1e91ea62.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/a396129c.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/dd6fe5c9.jpg
And here is a
Pic of my headlamps at night... I'm sure 90% of the people on here will not like it because it's not fly. But I like it, and they can be turned off via a switch so I don't have to run them when I don't want to.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/6bc66f30.jpg

DRAKLORE
05-01-2011, 06:54 PM
Here's a pic from when the fk coils went on, pita!!
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/DSC00288.jpg

DRAKLORE
05-01-2011, 06:56 PM
Idk why but I never have my nikon on me when I decide to stop for a pic! Would def love to have some of these pics in hq!!!
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/807ad654.jpg

dtm-edition
05-01-2011, 07:13 PM
Where you were when you first came here <<<<<<<<<<<<<< where you are now.

Not a fan of the uber blacked out, would love to see you lost the headlight tint, but its a huge step from where you were haha. Don't like the bumpers now that I see them.... [headbang]


Almost had it. At least it will be quick

x2 bumpers are awfull and the ricer exhaust definate no no.
but its only my opinion oh and pw211 but as long as your happy [:d]

DRAKLORE
05-01-2011, 07:27 PM
Honestly I wish I could have that money back from the bumpers. I hate the front, and don't mind the rear, but with the money I spent on them I prob coulda bought different oem style that i would like 100xs more, and it's cool u don't like the exhaust lol it's good to be different sometimes :-)

dtm-edition
05-01-2011, 07:34 PM
id say if you were going for a time attack look with the exhausts poking out through a carbon diffuser the would look classssss
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4368799558_041cbbf97b.jpg

DRAKLORE
05-01-2011, 07:41 PM
Haha I guess? Cool man lol

viziers
05-02-2011, 06:47 AM
Also found the solution to my dv problem, was looking at AWE tuning dv adapter housing which I'm 90% sure fits the revision d dv. But I don't think they will part there kit which I don't need any of it. Soo was looking on craiglist and found a forge splitter... For freakin 50$ it's gotta be a scam but I emailed him anyways lol
http://nh.craigslist.org/pts/2347983979.html


Your best bet it to call Joel at Eurojet as he will prob sell you just what you need!!!!!



vizi

DRAKLORE
05-02-2011, 08:53 AM
Thanks again Vizi, called Joel just now and left a message, the more I think about it, that is the route I would rather go :-) thank you lol

DRAKLORE
05-02-2011, 09:15 AM
Called Paul again at revo and it's a big let down, not only do they not have a file for the 3071r they don't even have a file for the k04 something I wish I knew before I got revo last year. I am going to call vast then Unitronic, but I fear no matter what they tell me it will be a bit before I can afford to get tuned by them

DRAKLORE
05-02-2011, 09:55 AM
Called vast and Unitronic, both quoted me right around 950$ for bt software, Unitronic had a lot of info and really sounded like they had everything ironed out for every circumstance. Also Unitronic said it would be in and out if I called in advance before going in to get flashed, vast Is going to call me back but said they would need it for about 2-3 days. I'm still not sure, I'm sure both these companys are very reputable! Now it's time for me to save up! Anybody want to buy my sps lol maybe I could even trade outy revo ecu? Not sure I'f that's possible but I'd rather someone enjoy it than it go to waste lol

viziers
05-02-2011, 11:34 AM
Called vast and Unitronic, both quoted me right around 950$ for bt software, Unitronic had a lot of info and really sounded like they had everything ironed out for every circumstance. Also Unitronic said it would be in and out if I called in advance before going in to get flashed, vast Is going to call me back but said they would need it for about 2-3 days. I'm still not sure, I'm sure both these companys are very reputable! Now it's time for me to save up! Anybody want to buy my sps lol maybe I could even trade outy revo ecu? Not sure I'f that's possible but I'd rather someone enjoy it than it go to waste lol


I'm pretty sure Vast wants your car for the three days is so they can make sure everything installed on the car is correct and not leaking (they basically check your work (another set of eyes) and more experience)..Then a day to dyno tune/street tune your car while making sure nothing goes wrong the the install.... and get the most possible where Uni gives you a generic tune that all use....(Nothing against Uni as they have been known to make nice numbers!!).....


With Vast you get a straight custom tune for YOUR car specifically.....



vizi

DRAKLORE
05-02-2011, 12:32 PM
I'm leaning towards vast because of that reason, after talking on the phone again it sounds like they also know there stuff and are a quality company. I also called back Joel at eurojet. He checked their inventory and they have an even number of adapters to hoses so he can't part it out, he said there's are billet machined but ecs has a cast one that is essentially the same. He hooked me up with the part number and I'm about to order it. Here is the link for fellow ziners who want the info!
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search_VW/06f145751/ES1042108/
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/53d560aa.jpg

viziers
05-02-2011, 05:07 PM
If thats for the S3 which it looks like it is that is the alternative one I was going to tell you about if Joel couldn't come through for (Can't blame them for not breaking up a set unless it was for a defective part that broke on their customer) the problem with the one from ECS is the backorder date if you haven't noticed aready (I needed mine real quick)....


vizi

DRAKLORE
05-03-2011, 03:16 AM
Haha that's just it! As I'm placing the order I noticed the ETA, makes it a no go for me because I pcs to robins afb a week before the eta, Can't have the next people living here get it

viziers
05-03-2011, 04:35 AM
Haha that's just it! As I'm placing the order I noticed the ETA, makes it a no go for me because I pcs to robins afb a week before the eta, Can't have the next people living here get it


This is your next best bet then. Buy my ATP adapter and use your Diaphram DV and maybe buy an extra Diaphram DV as a spare or 2 (Aduizine classifieds or Vortex classifieds) until you can get the correct updated S3 aadapter.......



vizi

DRAKLORE
05-03-2011, 08:46 AM
I see your trying to get rid of that ATP one lol, my diaphragm dv has a hole in it. And lookin in the classifieds I didn't see a one, called the dealer and the said unless it was one that was left on the shelf they don't have any and don't expect any other dealer to! I'm sorry that ATP screwed u on that one! I wonder if a machine shop could take off some of the mounting surface so that our d dv would work with them? Also got some news from eurocode tuning, it seems he has a direct connection to revo in the uk... Can't really say what's in the works tho

Operator
05-03-2011, 09:23 AM
I pcs to robins afb a week before the eta, Can't have the next people living here get it
What do you do in the AF?

DRAKLORE
05-03-2011, 09:25 AM
I'm training in RF transmissions, basically radio... But much much more complex lol

DRAKLORE
05-03-2011, 05:16 PM
Going to get the 2+ flash tomm..... I can't promise anything. But for you revo tuned cars out there wanting to go big turbo but don't want to swap tuning companies, there just may be a solution... :-) :-) but no promises

DRAKLORE
05-07-2011, 10:57 PM
All the parts come in on the 10th and 11th. In the mail from ecs are some exhaust hardware, a new g17 (because mine got ripped
Off) some 4mm silicone, a forge MBC. Also have a Forge 007 coming with all the springs :-) I will be reselling it as soon as I can get the s3 dv flange. All in all almost there except tune. Now I plan on putting everything on before sowo regardless of tune. Still no word from eurocode :-/ but I need some pointers, like...
1. Should I run the rs4 injectors on the stg2+ tune?
2. How should I adjust my timing and boost via the sps tuner to be safe with the setup?
3. Should I limit my boost below 10psi with the MBC?
4. Should I let my forge n75 do it's job and just use the MBC to prevent overboosting?
5. After the tune. Is 21-22psi a safe limit for a motor with stock internals, and would putting in ARP head bolts and a new gasket hold me over until I can afford connecting rods?

DRAKLORE
05-09-2011, 08:03 PM
Waiting for tune $$$ then will put this badboy on! I will prob build the bottom end as well :-)

MCT9891
05-09-2011, 08:17 PM
Waiting for tune $$$ then will put this badboy on! I will prob build the bottom end as well :-)

Nice! so am I. I was thinking rods, meth, retune and hopefully be happy enough to not spend any more money lol.

DRAKLORE
05-10-2011, 05:02 PM
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/643dee66.jpg
Got some parts in today :-) too bad the forge MBC ended up being a bleed type... not what I was expecting... Oh well it will be a bit before I can get her tuned!

DRAKLORE
05-11-2011, 08:17 PM
Finally have 99% of the parts needed to slap it on. Now just the waiting game for the tune, either getting temporary revo stg3 file to later go to vast when I can afford it, or saving and going to vast. Wish me luck :-)

rkesh88
05-12-2011, 06:38 AM
Would you be able to list and describe each part you have for those waiting to go BT just so we know that just the turbo, manifold, injectors, and tune arent all we need. GL i cant wait for the finished product.

DRAKLORE
05-12-2011, 09:31 AM
When I get home I will try to, there are a lot of by builds going on and the parts needed usually depend on what kind of bt car your building, a track car, a drag car, or just a a good dd car with enough power to make Sti owners feel dumb lol

AWDTURBO
05-12-2011, 09:58 AM
not to be a dick, but you will need alil more hp the 300AWHP to beat a STI lol

DRAKLORE
05-12-2011, 11:22 AM
Whos 3071r only puts out 300whp, I mean yeah on a really mild boost/timing setting? Correct me if I'm wrong but most 3071r kits put down anywhere from 350whp to 450whp... How is that not enough... If I only wanted 300whp I would have stuck with stg2+ and spent the money on water/meth and cosmetics, I think Geoffafa hit 300 this way
Because your four rings you prob know all? So I'm prob wrong, just saying I will prob be building my motor.. And if not I've heard/seen Many people on this forum and the vortex pushing the tfsi on stock internals past 350whp... Again not saying its safe but it's been done and done reliably...

rkesh88
05-12-2011, 12:54 PM
gulpro i think his name is had 345-350awhp on his gt30 and he had it for a good amount of time on stock int. so you should be fine.

MCT9891
05-12-2011, 01:22 PM
not to be a dick, but you will need alil more hp the 300AWHP to beat a STI lol
As draklore said, gt3071's can be pushed way passed the 300awhp mark. Awe and apr are mild tuned gt28's at 315-320awhp. A gt30 running an aggressive tune will be at 350awhp without a problem. Throw in rods, rod bearings and crank bearings like vizi has (I know he has a 3076, just using him as an example of our 2.0's reliability) and you're right at the 400whp mark. Especially with meth injection. Anymore than this and you're really pushing the rs4 injectors potential as well as your lpfp.

DRAKLORE
05-12-2011, 01:35 PM
Anyone Have any suggestions on downpipe angles, I'm going 3" v band and 3" downpipe. I'll be cutting out what I've got for a downpipe now and having a custom one made i think tomm, but I wanted some input, I've seen one downpipe for our cars that has two angles close together but basically eliminating the one 45• angle setup most other people have installed. I believ this would flow better, but be a bit more money for my shop to fab up. And I'm not really sure if two 22• angles on a 3" pipe will flow that much better than one 45• ?? anyone still following lol

Baruch
05-13-2011, 07:05 AM
not to be a dick, but you will need alil more hp the 300AWHP to beat a STI lol

If you had 300AWHP you should have no issues taking a STI - stick stock is like 305 crank no?

J.Owen
05-13-2011, 07:16 AM
Anyone Have any suggestions on downpipe angles, I'm going 3" v band and 3" downpipe. I'll be cutting out what I've got for a downpipe now and having a custom one made i think tomm, but I wanted some input, I've seen one downpipe for our cars that has two angles close together but basically eliminating the one 45• angle setup most other people have installed. I believ this would flow better, but be a bit more money for my shop to fab up. And I'm not really sure if two 22• angles on a 3" pipe will flow that much better than one 45• ?? anyone still following lol

shouldn't make a noticeable difference. You will seem more of an affect in how you handle your diameter transitions. Longer transitions spaced more evenly will have a bigger impact then what your proposing.

M-Hood
05-13-2011, 07:17 AM
I have a friend running a HTA3076r on his 2.0t FSI Scirocco, its making well over 500bhp. He runs a 5th injector, getting ready to increase that one to 1000cc.

DRAKLORE
05-13-2011, 09:41 AM
I have a friend running a HTA3076r on his 2.0t FSI Scirocco, its making well over 500bhp. He runs a 5th injector, getting ready to increase that one to 1000cc.
^^ Pics or it didn't happen!! [:D]

DRAKLORE
05-13-2011, 09:46 AM
shouldn't make a noticeable difference. You will seem more of an affect in how you handle your diameter transitions. Longer transitions spaced more evenly will have a bigger impact then what your proposing.
Ok, that makes sense, it's going to be 3" all the way to the back where it forks to dual 2-1/2"
I picked up a 12hr shift last minute today so prob not going to get much done this weekend[mad] maybe right before sowo

M-Hood
05-13-2011, 10:28 AM
^^ Pics or it didn't happen!! [:D]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224760_213806315304963_100000267899147_796016_2913 646_n.jpg

he is running the BSH 2.0t FSI transverse tube manifold and a ATP FSI intake.

DRAKLORE
05-13-2011, 04:01 PM
Damn! That thing is a beast!!! I give him props!!

DRAKLORE
05-22-2011, 09:31 PM
Went to sowo had a blast!!! Was able to cruise up the mountains about ten or so from the front during the mountain run!!

Bought PODIs new dual mount for the b7 and got a red vei AFR gauge and sender from them, 25% savings :-) can't beat that.
Talked with Steve@Unitronic, he's Definently a nice guy, knows his stuff too. I will continue to ork with Lavi@Unitronic as he is adapting their gt3071r tune for my ecu part # now. :-) I will keep you all posted

DRAKLORE
05-29-2011, 05:13 PM
Had a hpfp failure after installing the kmd internals, thanks to some vortex members and audizine members I was able to trace my problems down to an internal seal on my hpfp leaking fuel into my oil! I did a compression test and I'm still within Vw spec (161-201psi dry) I bought a new pump 325$ oem at the stealership (ouch) and did a couple oil changes to clean out the system. In the procces I learned that my diy catch can was shite so I ordered 42DDs bulletproof catch can for the mkv which I'll adapt to my bay :-) my podi dual mount is also on it's way, and soon my tune will be written and ready! I'll keep you all updated
- also picking up a rabbit caddy for a new project :)

MCT9891
05-29-2011, 08:34 PM
awesome dude, I can't wait.

DRAKLORE
06-16-2011, 02:51 AM
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/418f1228.jpg
Had some custom center caps made for my wheels :-)
The whole hpfp failure set me back$$ and I'm grinding ahead to get $$ for the expensive bt tune lol
On another side note I got my 42DD catch can today and will postpics later! It's a work of art and will really clean up the bay! Also coming Friday will be my podi dual mount pod and AFR VEI gauge and senders!
Slowly realizing that this car will never be done (unless I hit the megabucks) lol but it makes me happy to see it progress and I Definently feel as though Ive made huge progress in my short time of ownership so far lol
More to come soon!

DRAKLORE
06-16-2011, 07:16 PM
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/cf1f4e2f.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/5ea74c6f.jpg
And here's the catch can retro fitted for the b7 not sure
But am I the first b7 to have this can?
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/a58a361f.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/dbf2c32a.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/5de49c05.jpg

Inked
06-16-2011, 07:23 PM
very nice!

Stewy
06-17-2011, 03:44 PM
Damn! That thing is a beast!!! I give him props!!

+1

NERO Quattro
06-17-2011, 05:20 PM
Wow havent seen your car in while... night and day! Awesome transformation [up] , also like the placement of the IC between the votex lips. RS4 grill would be a nice addition.

DRAKLORE
06-17-2011, 08:26 PM
Thx:-) I have been procrastinating the issue with my front bumper, I like how aggressive it looks but it kinda puts that core out there lol, I really want to keep the fk grille... But it's for a non sline bumper so my bumper choices are kinda limited, but overall after I'm done with the motor... Maybe sooner lol I'm getting anew new bumper cover

DRAKLORE
06-23-2011, 06:31 PM
Got a new plate from a friend on the vortex
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/6b61faa0.jpg

Also after having ringtech Atlanta forget to send out my podi stuff, Greg sent me the stuff directly from the factory, got everything today but the gauge! The dual pod looks amazing and the sender looks pretty damn professional, came with software and some pretty slick wiring harness! The wideband o2 sensor looks completely oem can't wait to get it all in!
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/0f0dd847.jpg

Operator
06-23-2011, 09:32 PM
If you had 300AWHP you should have no issues taking a STI - stick stock is like 305 crank no?

From what I've read they are in the mid 235hp-255hp range stock depending on the year:
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: 2010 STi: 239 WTQ, 228 WHP
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2040626
And 2011:
236HP and 255TQ http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com/forums/technical-tuning-ecu-modifications/143744-2011-sti-baseline-dyno-jet-numbers.html

And Cobb stage 1 looks to be around 280whp
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2113571

Drake, the car is looking really nice!!!! Awesome shot here!!!
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/5ea74c6f.jpg


And did you get the newest KMD HPFP?

MCT9891
06-23-2011, 09:45 PM
great looking catch can/engine bay.

viziers
06-24-2011, 04:47 AM
Very nice indeed! keep us posted!




vizi

DRAKLORE
06-24-2011, 05:47 AM
Operator, I dis indeed get the newest hpfp, you just gotta be carefull when installing that kind of fragile stuff. Either I'm all thumbs or it was a weak seal to begin with 75,000 miles on it

DRAKLORE
06-28-2011, 09:04 PM
So whoever owned the turbo before Geoffafa did some gnarly damage to the inlet when they removed it.. At least that's the story I got lol, anyways I wasn't sure how to go about cleaning it up, but talking to my good friend who builds vdubs convinced me to clean it up so here's the results
Before:
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/76bbe453.jpg
After:
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/e445d38d.jpg
Also decided to bake on some enamel on my forge 007 dv because the finish was extremely scratched and gouged :-/ I guess not everyone is honest about the condition of the products they are selling lol so here's the finished product, came out very nice satin black. It baked at 250f for about 25 mins and the coat is extremely hard.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/1140d52e.jpg
And another project I took on was painting my washer tank black, came out nicely!
I routed the harness for the wideband and installed the dual pod, I will get those pictures up as soon as I finish with the gauge ( if anybody wants I took pictures with a DIY in mind...) either way I'm selling and selling, hopefully soon I will get an email back from vast?! Either way I am almost certain that is the best choice for me now! Wish me luck!!

thenofjboy
06-29-2011, 05:08 AM
Gotta love little DIY projects! That inlet has some nice gouges in but you did a good job cleaning it up.

GL w/ VAST! I look forward to see how you will progress with their tune

Charles
06-29-2011, 08:01 AM
Damn! That thing is a beast!!! I give him props!!

Good lord...between 4K and 5K rpms that thing shoots up 300hp!

DRAKLORE
07-01-2011, 04:12 PM
Seems like the forums been dead all week! Either way wish me luck.

After extensive research, I am going to install my turbo (gt30r) tonight and see what happens on REVO 2+... It should run ok (fingers crossed) depending on how it runs< and if it does not go lean in boost. I will install the rs4 injectors as well, that is the one thing I have not been sure about for awhile, but I'm hoping the extra fuel they provide will blanche with the extra air added by the turbo? either way I had my v-band Down pipe made and if this whole setup bombs I will throw the ko3 back on and just wait for Vast tuning. Wish me luck, it's pretty controversial but someones gotta do it before anyone can say it's dumb or wrong :-/

rkesh88
07-01-2011, 05:31 PM
lol thats awesome. good luck bro, How long does it take to install RS4 inj?

DRAKLORE
07-01-2011, 06:59 PM
45mins, so far so good :-)

jimrobbington
07-01-2011, 09:50 PM
I s there an injector diy? I don't know what's involved in that.

DRAKLORE
07-01-2011, 11:32 PM
The only inj diy I've found was on nuespeed IIRC website along with their k04 diy

Not to thread jack! But here's a quick update of what I've got done tonight :/
AFR wired:http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/9b799824.jpg
K03 out, Gt30r in:
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/688dc285.jpg
And yes my engine bay is skittles and the valve cover is turning green soon... Goodnight

greensto
07-02-2011, 08:09 AM
^^ I seriously love the colors!

rkesh88
07-02-2011, 08:19 AM
what made you go ext wg? and i say keep the colors it looks great

DRAKLORE
07-02-2011, 10:54 AM
Honestly it's how the turbo came, I couldn't turn it down when it came available :-)

DRAKLORE
07-02-2011, 08:59 PM
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/96354478.jpg
Turbo is in, plumbing all run :-) working on te downpipe as we speak, and later I will post a vid of the startup (loud:-))
I got two codes (P0030) (P0243) I'm pretty sure I screwed up the wideband install because I wanted to put the sensor in place of the stock Bosch wideband 02, unfortunately I couple find out how to wire the signal in so I will put the controller sensor in the rear O2 hole and the front back in :-/ not sure about my wastegate code?? But I will track it down...

DRAKLORE
07-02-2011, 09:11 PM
Do I have my wastegate hooked up correctly? The side bung on the n75 just runs underneath my cone and to the bottom of the wastegate, and the very bottom of the n75 runs to the charge pipe and also tees off with the DV
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/8ced3ad9.jpg
^^^^€do not use this configuration as it resulted in overboost

M-Hood
07-03-2011, 07:53 AM
I have never seen anyone put both hoses from the N75 valve to the WG, most of the time it is just the 1 line to the side of the WG which forces the valve open.

DRAKLORE
07-03-2011, 01:43 PM
UPDATE!!!! got the O2 refitted and figured out!! Was so confused about the n75 but I figured it out, not sure why but audi decided to make the n75 an DV connector the same thing, I had the dv plugged into the n75 and walla damn this thing is a beast! I am going to take it around and watch my AFR making sure it does not lean out :-/ other than that.... GT3071r running on a stg2+ is possible... :-)

maidest
07-03-2011, 02:31 PM
nice man, vids!

Doctor
07-03-2011, 02:38 PM
I should propably spend some time make my Turbo Housing this colour as well, as is my Valve Cover . . . pfff why did i see your pics . . . .

Nice project, keep it up . . .

DRAKLORE
07-03-2011, 03:40 PM
^ your engine pics are what influenced me! Lol

-ECU does a very nice job of keeping the AFR healthy and below 12 under boost, spool up is a little later than 3k RPMs but I think with proper tune and injectors it will feel smoother :-) but so far it has exceeded my expectations, I might even see what happens if I throw in those rs4 inj?! Other than that all is well
Here's to firsts and pushing boundaries :-)

Doctor
07-03-2011, 03:42 PM
Throw the rs4 injectors in already . . . Dont mind the black smoke from the back at WOT, it will be for a good cause . . .

DRAKLORE
07-03-2011, 08:44 PM
Heres the second startup after i attached the downpipe, i was afraid to turn that key lol but someones got to be the guinee pig :-/ anyways after fooling around and figuring how to actually hookup the External wastegate and then figuring out that i had the DV connector connected to my N75. i took it out to see how it drives :-D its a different beast let me say, spoolup could be faster with a proper tune and injectors, spoolup starts at 3200 and hits real real hard at 3800 unfortunately the ecu doesnt know whats up and it overboosts like a mofo so i really only get a few seconds of " o shit thats crazy" and then i let off so not to hurt anything! i do however have an MBC and will hook that in line with the n75 to dial it down to 18 psi then ill throw in those RS4 injectors next week. gotta spend some time with the family! the biggest worry i had was with the AFR going lean in boost, but so far the highest its been is 12.3 or so and then it drops to 10.6-11.8 or so, overall showing the capabilities that the revo stg2+ tune has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ8fu4y8pnE
Tell all your audi friends, and rememeber who the first 2.0tfsi to run a GT3071r on STG2+ software was! thanks to all the people who gave me the knowlege to make it happen, and yes eventually when money permits this beast is getting built and properly tuned by vast!

thenofjboy
07-03-2011, 08:55 PM
I like your box of parts laying around with the KO3 etc haha. Good things take time & your on the right track

Congrats man & this will def be a Happy 4th of July for you, I bet you had a smile on your face all night!

rkesh88
07-04-2011, 05:56 AM
haha sick vid, too much of a teaser i thought you were gonna take it out. I wanna hear how the ext wg sounds on an audi, on a subaru it sounds great just wanna hear it on this.

DRAKLORE
07-04-2011, 08:24 AM
As soon as I get the overboost figured out I'll post up a vid :-)

DRAKLORE
07-04-2011, 07:37 PM
Still haven't figured out the overboost :/ thought. It might be the 007 blue spring I had in so I swapped in the green but it's only a little better. Anyways can't hook in my MBC with the n75 because it is bleed type
Took a quick vid going really easy through a couple of the gears with my iPhone,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNDV43ElI_o&feature=youtube_gdata_player
As you can see still a bit hairy, I really have been babying it around :-/[rolleyes]

DRAKLORE
07-06-2011, 09:35 PM
Time for a tiny update :-) took the car to revtech Atlanta, and had another horrible experience with this company.
I sold my sps to get a bit of $$ but stupidly left my settings at like 9-6-7 not thinking I would run the gt30 on it. So instead of getting a MBC I figured I would go out and see if I could have a REVO dealer lower my boost setting?! So I find out revtech is closest to me and I drive there, these are the same ppl that took my money at sowo for an AFR gauge and forgot to order it two times! Finnally podi sent me the stuff direct, sheesh. Anyways you think the smart way to go about this procedure would be to lower the setting all the way down and work your way up to a safe level so things stay safe?!
Nope that's not what he did, he dropped the setting down one notch to 8 takes it out and damn near kills the car, comes back and says "geez it's still well into the 20s and it's backfiring at wot.." !! What! I told him yea no shit and explain the scenario to him again, I say of course it's backfiring, it's not getting fuel up top cause I haven't put the injectors in. I say drop it down to 4-5 on boost and let me go. So he adjusts it and tales the car out again, same issue he says when he gets back, he tells menus dropped it down to 7... And it's hitting 25 now... I took my keys and left. But at least I know if I find a friend with an sps I can drip it down low enough to be around 18psi :-/ I can't believe this guy is a professional.

AudiCoupe
07-07-2011, 03:42 AM
The backfiring issue is likely caused when the limit of the MAP sensor is exceeded... I recently mapped my car with a S3 turbo and we had to reduce the boost spike quite a lot to minimize the backfiring caused by the MAP bottoming out at 2.5bar (absolute pressure). The best would be to change MAP sensor but my tuner had not done this before so he did not want to try this yet.

DRAKLORE
07-07-2011, 07:17 AM
^thanks, good to know!

DRAKLORE
07-08-2011, 04:57 PM
Replaced my stock cam follower today, had the original one in it, and it had a
Crack all the way through. Not bad though for 80k
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/81b85750.jpg
Next I got to replace my belt tensioner and timing belt as well :-/
Also going to find someone w/sps and lower my boost

Coderedpl
07-08-2011, 05:29 PM
Where is the crack? Damn this must be a fun project!

A 4 Awesome
07-08-2011, 07:40 PM
Dig that valve cover! What color is that?

DRAKLORE
07-08-2011, 09:52 PM
Thx :-) It's a rust-oleum <? color they make engine enamel and high heat paint. Prep is key when it comes to these engine components, cause they tend to reject paint if you don't.
I just finished up painting the heat shield green like the turbine housing. I use simple projects like that to keep me occupied between the big expensive projects. :)

viziers
07-09-2011, 04:45 AM
You goy very lucky with that cam follower!!!!! From now on id be checking it EVERY 5k miles it may be a pain in the ass but it will be even more of a pain in the ass $$$$$$ if you don't especially now that the motor has been modified.......




vizi

A 4 Awesome
07-09-2011, 04:59 PM
^^Thanks. I have heard of Rust-oluem. I used that on my free weights that my dad gave me to touch them up. Good Stuff. Post those new pics up i want to see that heatshield done up in green

DRAKLORE
07-09-2011, 09:54 PM
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/06ebc985.jpg

I'm having difficulty figuring out the routing for the MBC :-/ there are a ton of diagrams and instructions on how to hook up the two port MBC, unfortunately I got cheap and had ordered the bleed type, I really need to find someone in my area with sps :-/ lol

> going to put in the rs4 injectors soon, it will help with boost at higher RPMs, but because of the nature of the setup I know I will experience cold start issues and possibly a rough idle :-/ if it is bad they will come out until I can get vast tuned, unfortunately I spent all my money and will have to wait, waterfest is still up in the air for me $?!

DRAKLORE
07-10-2011, 02:58 PM
Thanks to Vizi, I decided to run just the forge MBC and after some fine tuning the car boost to 18-20 psi
Let me first just say, this is way more powerful than it was at stg2+ w/ko3, I tried to push it to 21-23 psi but it leans out at the higher RPMs, seems to me that is the wall for the ko3 injectors, I'm going to put in the rs4 injectors and will report back.

DRAKLORE
07-10-2011, 06:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEC85iyvZ5A&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Here's a short pass going through a couple gears, in this vid I've got it set at 18-19psi

rkesh88
07-10-2011, 06:58 PM
Sounds sickk, i need to start amassing my stg3 stuff.

audi8844
07-10-2011, 08:55 PM
Looking forward to some vids with rs4 injectors

viziers
07-11-2011, 04:30 AM
Just be careful, because remember you technically are only running the car to get by until you get the tune... So i'd go easy on her until it gets finalized! You will then have plenty of time to get vids.....



P.S. Thanks for the kind words, just trying to help ou a fellow member...


vizi

DRAKLORE
07-22-2011, 09:11 PM
^^haha now I read this, went to the drag strip tonight and was coerced
Into doing a few runs... First of all car is on stock injectors still cause I haven't had the time to put in the rs4s also car is on stock clutch with 90k on it..... First run I barely beat a Hyundai genesis.. Ran a 15.1 lol slipping first for the first 50yards or so :-/ then my buddy with a vr6 GTi wanted to run, so I go out and run a 14.6 and he ran a 15.9. last run for me and the genesis wants a Rematch so I line up and decide to rev to 4000k and launch... This in turn decided to make my clutch shit itself completely as it did not catch in first, second or third, completely slipping like it was made from butter :-( I limped down the track and that was the end of my night :-( pretty pathetic lol also all those runs were done at 18psi
Next week I'm going to order vast new clutch kits, I will go stg2-3 but looking at the specs stg1 is rated for 450hp lol so I think stg2 will do just fine... But what's another 50$ lol. Also going to be getting a different setup for coils because my friend with a b6 is buying mine and I'm sick of the ride :-( also looking into water/meth kits....
And as soon as I get paid I found a 1981 caddy with my name on it :-)

MCT9891
07-22-2011, 09:26 PM
do yourself a favor and go with clutchmasters stage 4... once you get a proper tune that turbo will eat any clutch you throw at it alive.
My southbend stage 3 feels like shit when I'm shifting hard, and it pretty much laughs in my face on a launch....

AudiWxGuy
07-22-2011, 09:27 PM
Looks awesome, bro! Sounds like this costs a lot of mula tho. Don't know if I could ever justify that aspect of it.

MCT9891
07-22-2011, 09:30 PM
Looks awesome, bro! Sounds like this costs a lot of mula tho. Don't know if I could ever justify that aspect of it.

ohh its justifiable. You guys have no idea the smile that goes on our face after 3500 rpm.

viziers
07-23-2011, 05:00 AM
Yes id have to say my Clutchmasters FX400 has help up perfectly not one issue at all!!! It's been able to hanlde every bit of torque I throw at it!




vizi

viziers
07-23-2011, 05:02 AM
ohh its justifiable. You guys have no idea the smile that goes on our face after 3500 rpm.


x2 Bagizzilion times over!


vizi

DRAKLORE
07-23-2011, 09:20 AM
I might be a guinea pig a try vast new stg 4 clutch... It has a really high rating... Using some new technology, :-/ it's another one of those hard choices lol. And yea I'm not even running a whole lot of power over stg2+ and I can say it's totally justifiable!!!!

MCT9891
07-23-2011, 10:31 AM
I might be a guinea pig a try vast new stg 4 clutch... It has a really high rating... Using some new technology, :-/ it's another one of those hard choices lol. And yea I'm not even running a whole lot of power over stg2+ and I can say it's totally justifiable!!!!

I would say just don't got under Stage 4.

DRAKLORE
07-23-2011, 01:14 PM
Truth lol I don't know where they got the numbers from lol but they list the stage 1 clutch good for 450hp lol????!

kristokes
07-23-2011, 01:59 PM
Moved.

DRAKLORE
07-23-2011, 02:35 PM
Thank you :-)

M-Hood
07-24-2011, 08:21 AM
I might be a guinea pig a try vast new stg 4 clutch... It has a really high rating... Using some new technology, :-/ it's another one of those hard choices lol. And yea I'm not even running a whole lot of power over stg2+ and I can say it's totally justifiable!!!!

It uses a Kevlar (KV) material on 1 side, like you find on the CM FX200 disk. Other side is Bronze Ceramic like you find on a the CM 725/850 series clutch.

This
http://www.clutchmasters.com/static/content/kit2.jpg

and a version of this.
http://px6.streetfire.net/0002/50/98/2000589_600.jpg

DRAKLORE
07-24-2011, 09:04 AM
So that means it's good? Lol I asked them how accurate the "ratings" were and I will keep everyone updated with what I ultimately choose.
I am tempted to just get the fx400 because it has worked for many members already and I know it's a good option, but then that wouldn't be like me would it... Lol I gotta try something new haha

MCT9891
07-24-2011, 09:23 AM
So that means it's good? Lol I asked them how accurate the "ratings" were and I will keep everyone updated with what I ultimately choose.
I am tempted to just get the fx400 because it has worked for many members already and I know it's a good option, but then that wouldn't be like me would it... Lol I gotta try something new haha

If you're in the market now and don't mind making a drive to Long Island for the install I know someone who makes custom clutches.
I've driven in the car with one and it was unreal!! It's definitely where I'm going when my southbend finally gives out.
The car was a stage 3 b5 S4, and when he was ripping through the gears the interior literally shook... That's how hard the clutch grabs. Not a second of slipping.
I know its a hike for you but just giving you another option. And how many people can honestly say they have a custom clutch? lol. PM me or text me if you want details. If you want I'll ask him... maybe he can ship it to you and you can do the install yourself or at a local shop. But I'd like for you to feel this thing grab... unreal!!
If not I still say Clutchmasters fx400, I haven't heard anything bad from them. Plus I think Vast is a semi-puck plate like my southbend... gay. lol

Edit... forgot to mention it's cheaper than aftermarket.

QUATTROA4B7
07-24-2011, 09:59 AM
Build is coming along nicely Draklore.. I say you give the Vast stg3 or 4 clutch a try! My buddy had a
Vast stg3 clutch in his stg3 b5 s4, and it felt great! It held wonderfully through the "gear banging"
and it was very easy to ease into gear. It was almost as if it had a similar feel to the OEM clutch,
but had the muscle to hold the power!! When I saw Vast's line up of clutches for our car , I was very
excited. I will probably be going with one of those. I have also heard great things about the FX400,
but I have heard there is no "easing" into gear with that thing.

DRAKLORE
07-24-2011, 07:48 PM
Yeah I'm so on the fence :-/ on one hand we've got th proven fx400, I've heard a few little hints at a chatter issue, but in my experience if your running OEM flywheel on a puck setup this is common.
On the other hand we have a non puck style clutch, it's using "new" technology and has some pretty big HP ratings... I almost want to try it because it's NOT been proven :-/ Im not really into following the easy route and I think the community could use a good review on a new product offered by vast. I'm getting a big $$$ soon and have big plans that include this clutch, suspension, w/m, and an 1981 VW caddy with a g60 swap :-) everyone wish me luck!

MCT9891
07-24-2011, 07:55 PM
Good luck man. Build that bottom end!!

DRAKLORE
07-24-2011, 07:55 PM
If you're in the market now and don't mind making a drive to Long Island for the install I know someone who makes custom clutches.
I've driven in the car with one and it was unreal!! It's definitely where I'm going when my southbend finally gives out.
The car was a stage 3 b5 S4, and when he was ripping through the gears the interior literally shook... That's how hard the clutch grabs. Not a second of slipping.
I know its a hike for you but just giving you another option. And how many people can honestly say they have a custom clutch? lol. PM me or text me if you want details. If you want I'll ask him... maybe he can ship it to you and you can do the install yourself or at a local shop. But I'd like for you to feel this thing grab... unreal!!
If not I still say Clutchmasters fx400, I haven't heard anything bad from them. Plus I think Vast is
a semi-puck plate like my
southbend... gay. lol

Edit... forgot to mention it's cheaper than aftermarket.

Thanks for the info but I'm having a hard enough time using this beast around town on the kilt clutch, it doesn't help it's trying to push a 60trim turbo :-/ long island traffic would make me very frustrated lol. And like everything else I will be putting the clutch in myself (FTW), it's funny cause I've always kept a ledger with the amount of money I've spent on the car, down to rolls of painters tape... But I've never factored in what labor cost would have been!!! I don't know how someone can pay 1200$ in labor! I have a hard enough time saving for the hardware lol

DRAKLORE
07-24-2011, 08:02 PM
Good luck man. Build that bottom end!!

Yeah I was semi surprised to see B777 snap a rod, I feel bad! But I knew it was a matter of time a ko4 guy on our platform had this happen. To date the only snapped rods have been on ko4 turbos (APR) yikes and one gt28 :-/ this has happen to Alot of Gti guys as there are Alot more Apr stg3 GTI guys than stg3 b7 guys.
What are you running for boost? Care to share what your AFR is running around... I really don't think us BT guys have the torque spike up top to snap a rod... But I Beams are a food piece of mind!

MCT9891
07-24-2011, 10:35 PM
b777 was running a gt28

DRAKLORE
07-24-2011, 10:44 PM
Thought he had the Apr ko4 lol looks like APR has the only claim on 2.0tfsi so far lol small turbo running aggressive tune=crazy torque snap :-/
Please let me know how you and Vizi fair with the tuning, I'm almost not sure anymore because they only got 320awhp from vizi's 76... Then they turn around and put it on his hardware! Vast claims 400awhp on their shop fsi... What could possibly be the issue with vizi setup that it's 70+ Awhp difference! I'm just weary of the costs involvednin standalone tuning! Gah this is an exspensive hobby!!!

MCT9891
07-24-2011, 10:47 PM
sent you a PM about it

M-Hood
07-24-2011, 11:47 PM
If you're in the market now and don't mind making a drive to Long Island for the install I know someone who makes custom clutches.
I've driven in the car with one and it was unreal!! It's definitely where I'm going when my southbend finally gives out.
The car was a stage 3 b5 S4, and when he was ripping through the gears the interior literally shook... That's how hard the clutch grabs. Not a second of slipping.
I know its a hike for you but just giving you another option. And how many people can honestly say they have a custom clutch? lol. PM me or text me if you want details. If you want I'll ask him... maybe he can ship it to you and you can do the install yourself or at a local shop. But I'd like for you to feel this thing grab... unreal!!
If not I still say Clutchmasters fx400, I haven't heard anything bad from them. Plus I think Vast is a semi-puck plate like my southbend... gay. lol

Edit... forgot to mention it's cheaper than aftermarket.

A clutch shouldn't slip at all when shifting thru the gears, unless your running some type of flow control valve that is designed to slip the clutch. They most likely built the clutch without a unsprung disk and running a unsprung flywheel. A clutch that hits too hard can actually damage the transmission by producing too much torque shock thru the input shaft. That happens to be the #1 killer of B5/B6 A4 1.8t transmissions.


I have also heard great things about the FX400,
but I have heard there is no "easing" into gear with that thing.

Not true at all. Once you get used to the FX400 you can ease into it all you want. Its just all in on how you control the pedal. The FX400 6 puck is actually one of the easier 6 puck setups to drive.

DRAKLORE
07-25-2011, 09:49 PM
I think the price and availability of the vast stg3 clutch is going to ultimately be the deciding factor. Also I'm not a huge fan of puck design clutches, and they claim they're pressure plate is 60% stronger than oem, this paired with the USP metal line conversion and possibly a LWFW will be the route that I go...

THECOUNT
07-26-2011, 06:06 AM
I think the price and availability of the vast stg3 clutch is going to ultimately be the deciding factor. Also I'm not a huge fan of puck design clutches, and they claim they're pressure plate is 60% stronger than oem, this paired with the USP metal line conversion and possibly a LWFW will be the route that I go...

What ever you need let me know.

DRAKLORE
07-26-2011, 07:14 AM
do you guys reccomend a LWFW or have one in mind that you would think would work well? everyone ive talked to that has had a LWFW said they hated it lol just wondering if you guys have any input for our platform, or personal experience? thanks

M-Hood
07-26-2011, 08:03 AM
do you guys reccomend a LWFW or have one in mind that you would think would work well? everyone ive talked to that has had a LWFW said they hated it lol just wondering if you guys have any input for our platform, or personal experience? thanks

It makes the engine a bit more responsive to throttle changes, stick with a steel flywheel if you go single mass for a Quattro car.

DRAKLORE
07-26-2011, 08:19 AM
So more responsive throttle, I've heard it would reduce my mpgs, and would make and awd car unbearable to drive :-/
I might just look to lower my rotational mass in other areas

AudiA4_20T
07-26-2011, 08:39 AM
So more responsive throttle, I've heard it would reduce my mpgs, and would make and awd car unbearable to drive :-/
I might just look to lower my rotational mass in other areas

who is telling you this? The Steel FW is fine. Shifts will be crisper and the car will rev quicker. MPG are not affected and unless they have a terrible setup it should drive fine

DRAKLORE
07-26-2011, 08:46 AM
Ok, I was told because the engine does not maintain the RPMs, during highway driving you are constantly under throttle.

M-Hood
07-26-2011, 10:30 AM
Ok, I was told because the engine does not maintain the RPMs, during highway driving you are constantly under throttle.

That is during shifting, has nothing to do with how the car drives once the clutch is fully engaged. The clutch/flywheel are not going to have any effect on your gas mileage. It also isn't going to change your rpms in anyway.


The lighter the flywheel is the more momentum it will lose as the clutch is being enaged basically allowing the clutch to slow it down quicker. So with a very light weight aluminum flywheel you would have to give it more throttle to get the rpms up higher as you enage the clutch from a stop. Also the lighter the flywheel is the quicker the rpms will rise/fall when the clutch is disengaged.

AudiA4_20T
07-26-2011, 11:27 AM
Thought he had the Apr ko4 lol looks like APR has the only claim on 2.0tfsi so far lol small turbo running aggressive tune=crazy torque snap :-/
Please let me know how you and Vizi fair with the tuning, I'm almost not sure anymore because they only got 320awhp from vizi's 76... Then they turn around and put it on his hardware! Vast claims 400awhp on their shop fsi... What could possibly be the issue with vizi setup that it's 70+ Awhp difference! I'm just weary of the costs involvednin standalone tuning! Gah this is an exspensive hobby!!!

btw this is a good post. You'll see when you're around here long enough. For the most part dynos follow a simple path. Good combinations usually make power while bad ones don't and it's often easy to see where they lie. Also, there are many times "outliers" that don't make sense in terms of the hardware, and usually it's because they are not accurate. Jeff's setup is solid but it seems there is a big problem with something. Once he gets it figured out it should work well for him, but I also doubt the 400awhp without meth number

RAI Motorsport
07-26-2011, 08:02 PM
A clutch shouldn't slip at all when shifting thru the gears, unless your running some type of flow control valve that is designed to slip the clutch. They most likely built the clutch without a unsprung disk and running a unsprung flywheel. A clutch that hits too hard can actually damage the transmission by producing too much torque shock thru the input shaft. That happens to be the #1 killer of B5/B6 A4 1.8t transmissions.



Not true at all. Once you get used to the FX400 you can ease into it all you want. Its just all in on how you control the pedal. The FX400 6 puck is actually one of the easier 6 puck setups to drive.


my girl has driven on a fx400 for months in a car i used to have, no complaints.....thats right, a girl, and no complaints.

DRAKLORE
07-26-2011, 08:10 PM
Imma do meth lol, but for now I'm looking into new coilovers and a clutch. I just saw slimjokers clutch+steel lwfw for sale, he said make an offer so I pmd him :-) I know I said I was for sure going vast.. But if I can get slimjokers fx400 AND LWFW for roughly the same $ thatsa wat Imma gonna do... Bassically itsall going to depend on how close in price these are haha, if I can ge that setup for the price of vast stg3 why not? It's got 7k miles on it... Poor slim and his broke 2.0
Also looking at elcapitains coils. He's asking 750$ shipped which is more than fair, but my wallets getting thin and I have seen five sets with less miles go for 550-650$ shipped on passat world and Vwvortex audi classifieds... Also I am picking up my 1981 Vw caddy this weekend :-) gonna do a g60 lol

RAI Motorsport
07-26-2011, 08:17 PM
Draklore, I skimmed through much of this thread and I have to say good job. The build seems to be turning out nicely. Also I wouldnt be too worried about slapping into the 12's on the afr at certain points. The fsi engines are much better with "lean" than port injection. Pay more attention to why you are having the fluctuation. If the ECU is requesting that afr, then that is a easy problem to fix, if it is not requesting that then it is something you need to address. Also i sent a email to a friend on you behalf, if he can cover your car, i may have a really good solution for you. Ill let you know if it pans out.

M-Hood
07-26-2011, 08:29 PM
my girl has driven on a fx400 for months in a car i used to have, no complaints.....thats right, a girl, and no complaints.

I actually hear that from plenty people, see it all the time with the S4 2.7t owners and plenty of them run the FX400 6 puck.

DRAKLORE
07-26-2011, 08:32 PM
Awesome, I'm excited to hear some feedback :-)
Coming from a mechanical background makes the hardware related things fairly straightforward and I don't feel intimidated about tackling them, but the software part of things make my head hurt lol

M-Hood
07-26-2011, 08:36 PM
If you have a chance to grab the clutch/flywheel out of Stefan's car do it, that clutch/flywheel cant have to many miles on it.

RAI Motorsport
07-26-2011, 08:48 PM
unfortunately, there is a point when you need to understand the software to find the flaws in the mechanical side of things and vice versa.

RAI Motorsport
07-26-2011, 08:49 PM
If you have a chance to grab the clutch/flywheel out of Stefan's car do it, that clutch/flywheel cant have to many miles on it.

agreed, 90 percent of the systems we sell are all fx400 6 puck.

DRAKLORE
07-27-2011, 04:11 AM
unfortunately, there is a point when you need to understand the software to find the flaws in the mechanical side of things and vice versa.

That is very true!

DRAKLORE
07-28-2011, 08:50 PM
Well today lightened my wallet lol bought the VAST stg3 clutch, and after talking to ray at RAI I decided that I am am going to undertake Maestro tuning as soon as I get the $ to buy the system :-)

Oh yea... Also bought the Snow performance STG2 water/meth :-) once again Ray was able to lead me in the right direction, almost bought the vast w/m but I think for my setup the snow performance will work much better :-)

And another thing, picking up my 81 Vw caddy pickup this weekend :-)

MCT9891
07-28-2011, 09:04 PM
nice man, congrats!

thenofjboy
07-28-2011, 09:22 PM
Well today lightened my wallet lol bought the VAST stg3 clutch, and after talking to ray at RAI I decided that I am am going to undertake Maestro tuning as soon as I get the $ to buy the system :-)

Oh yea... Also bought the Snow performance STG2 water/meth :-) once again Ray was able to lead me in the right direction, almost bought the vast w/m but I think for my setup the snow performance will work much better :-)

And another thing, picking up my 81 Vw caddy pickup this weekend :-)


maestro!!! thats good stuff - your build is going to get even more interesting!!! props - do werk! I look forward to this when the time comes

DRAKLORE
07-28-2011, 09:32 PM
I understand the hardware and can handle almost any aspect of that myself, so I kinda figure that being up close and personal with the software is what ultimately suits my build and project. It will have a "learning curve" but once I start to understand what I'm doing, I will be able to personally tweak the tune for any situation/hardware setup I want, without having to rely on a busy company thats innundated with similar requests from other customers. Also I believe I will be able to get the most power at safe levels this way... As for the caddy, that's remaining fairly stock until the audi nears completion, or at least till I get the urge to mod it correctly lol. **sigh more time spent on vortex studying what's wrong/right lol :-/ and then doing neither haha

THECOUNT
07-29-2011, 04:54 AM
Thanks, I know your going to love the clutch.

AudiA4_20T
07-29-2011, 05:59 AM
I understand the hardware and can handle almost any aspect of that myself, so I kinda figure that being up close and personal with the software is what ultimately suits my build and project. It will have a "learning curve" but once I start to understand what I'm doing, I will be able to personally tweak the tune for any situation/hardware setup I want, without having to rely on a busy company thats innundated with similar requests from other customers. Also I believe I will be able to get the most power at safe levels this way... As for the caddy, that's remaining fairly stock until the audi nears completion, or at least till I get the urge to mod it correctly lol. **sigh more time spent on vortex studying what's wrong/right lol :-/ and then doing neither haha

Reach out to people when you're doing a build like this. You'll start to realize that 99% of the B7 guys are going to have no idea about the problems you're facing lol. Consult the ones that have done BT before as well as the B6/B5 guys. The 1.8T motor is more similar than most think

okswerve16
07-29-2011, 08:05 AM
you should find out how many maps are currently availible in maestro for the fsi. i know it is not nearly as developed as maestro for me7 which is why many are hesitant to go with it for med9, at least thats one reason for me lol

DRAKLORE
07-29-2011, 09:12 AM
Chris@tapp has some more insight on the maps available for the maestro, tho I plan on tailoring it for what works best with my hardware :-)
Andy thanks for the opportunity to run your clutch, am I the first b7?

THECOUNT
07-29-2011, 12:44 PM
Thank you! Yes you are the first to get one in the open market :)

Please let us know what you think when get it in your hands.

DRAKLORE
08-02-2011, 01:29 PM
Recieved the clutch yesterday! very fast delivery :-) came with the alignment tool and all the other neccesary goodies for install, i opted out on the flywheel bolts (+40$) but i would reccomend getting them because it is reccomended to replace them with the clutch. On a side note got a little swag with it (stickers+keychain) :-) overall i am impressed with clutch as it looks, i will let yall know how it feels how it feels once i install it. wore myself out working on my caddy rabbit this last weekend so i will probably be tackling this project in the next couple weeks or so.

THECOUNT
08-02-2011, 02:49 PM
Good to hear & thank you.

DRAKLORE
08-02-2011, 07:06 PM
Heres how it looks if anyone is curious
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/6e6bdacf.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/b98f4099.jpg

DRAKLORE
08-06-2011, 05:53 PM
Well after considering going with maestro and working with RAI I realized that I'm in the military and if something goes wrong while I'm on deployment I can't be there to walk my wife through how to run the program or exchange logs.
After emailing Andy at vast about their lpfp solution I will be going through them for my tuning needs :-) So far he has answered my questions. I started my project this weekend, thought while I had the lpfp out and the car officially down I would put the VAST stg3 clutch in, install the snow performance stg2 kit and RS4 injectors, I cleaned my injectors and am excitedly awaiting my rebuilt lpfp and tune from vast :-)
Once again I want to thank Andy for the help and support. I'm sure that this will be an awesome collaboration, can't wait to feel the new clutch combined with the new power!
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/e0c85244.jpg
Lpfp out, I disconnected the basket(contains pump) from the upper deck and thats what I shipped.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/86d4a28c.jpg
Snow performance stg2, came with the #2-#3 nozzles, I will he using the #3 which is like 275-350 whp hopefully I can run te #4 later.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/6eb66920.jpg
Intake manifold out, cleaning of valves with brakleen and carb cleaner, then lightly brushing the rest of the gunk of :-/
Also putting in two new knock sensors and leaving the manifold off while I remove transmission, should let me get some of the bolts easier.
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/56ce9abb.jpg
Here's a crappy pic of my 3" turbo back exhaust, from the test pipe back was made by a custom exhaust shop. :-) was maybe 450-500$?
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/0bbfb236.jpg
Here is my proof of concept for the water meth, haven't seen it done on here yet but I tapped the throttle body directly before the flapper, the nozzle is far enough back from the flapper that the mist does not contact the plate while in wot position.
I will be utilizing the OEM washer tank as it requires me to not have to plumb in the smaller snow performance tank or wire in the low level sensor. Besides that my washer jet pump stopped working a few months back and I have yet to replace it or find the problem where I've been so caught up in work :-/
Lpfp get to vast Wednesday morning, hopefully he can ship it back the same day? So the car isn't down for too long. All in all I couldn't be happier!!!!!!

THECOUNT
08-08-2011, 05:25 AM
Your welcome, I am sure you will be more then happy with your results. As soon as your basket gets I will install the pump & Jason will get you the tuning info sheet asap. I look forward to the feed back on the clutch too.

DRAKLORE
08-08-2011, 10:44 PM
I talked with Jason on the phone about the throw out bearing, I'll tell you guys what I find, he mentioned the one you bench rested was FWD so I'm hoping that it's just an issue with that particular transmission? When I get the OE throw out bearing out I will compare the two and shoot him a pic of the two side by side, we can then go from there? I also talked extensively about the tune :-) I got the skinny on the infamous vast 400awhp b7 and I gotta say it sounds really impressive :-) he seems to really know his stuff, and the fact you were able to hit that mark without W/M makes me confident in my setup! I'm not looking for 400awhp on my stock internals but am not afraid to run 380awhp where that seems to be done safely. At least until my bottom gets built! Then we will see the limit of the rs4 injectors :-)

eastwick897
08-09-2011, 03:17 PM
As soon as you have a tune and your LPFP gets installed please head out to a local reputable shop that has a dyno and post up the dyno I am very curious to see what you put down.

okswerve16
08-09-2011, 06:13 PM
and run some logs!

viziers
08-10-2011, 07:10 AM
As soon as you have a tune and your LPFP gets installed please head out to a local reputable shop that has a dyno and post up the dyno I am very curious to see what you put down.


x2



vizi

DRAKLORE
08-10-2011, 07:59 AM
I am as well as the guys at vast, very interested in getting some numbers

DRAKLORE
08-14-2011, 12:59 PM
Well this last week I have been undertaking the installlation of my clutch, water meth, and rs4 injectors.
Here some photos that highlight some
Of the project.[evilsmile]

http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/98f9624c.jpg

http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/efd3db16.jpg

http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/e1469d4d.jpg
Don't mind the blue hoses they are to show where the studs are
Lol.. Cleaned off the carbon gunk :-)
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/fcc23cb9.jpg

http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/4c682034.jpg
Old vs. New


I'm uploading more as we speak, if anyone ever has questions conceding removing any component please feel free to pm me :-)

DRAKLORE
08-14-2011, 01:29 PM
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/63f70516.jpg
Here's the dw-300 before installing the top deck to it, install was relatively easy. The pump and top deck are both labeled (+)(-)
so the wiring is easy. Hardest part was getting the top deck set down enough to install the locking ring. Again, if anyone has any questions shoot me a pm :-)

DRAKLORE
08-15-2011, 01:05 AM
After what seemed like months of the audi being down I finished installing errthing this morning...I will never put a clutch in anything again on my back with the car on jack stands! I literally only had a bottle jack under neath the balance point of the trans :-/ made lining up the input shaft an extreme pita, I also took the head of the bolt on the slave clean off... ^yea not fun. Had to make a gas run in the caddy to even start the audi, then I saw fuel pissing everywhere near the manifold.. I had been stupid and left off one of the blue o rings on the first rs4 injector! Boy did I feel like a dumbass, I then spent the next hour ripping off the manifold to put on the o ring and reassemble. Finally together she started right up, no leaks no nothing it had a bit of A rough idle due to the new injectors and me not having good enough Internet to attempt flashing the car with the vast tune...
First impression- holy shit... VAST your clutch is fucking pure sex! I was a bit skeptical when I pushed the clutch in the first time, I really felt that 60% stronger pressure plate. But after a minute of driving I was used to it and I will say the car has never felt Stronger. Idk if it was just from driving my jalopy Vw caddy all week or what but even the shifts seems 1000% crisper, that and the way the clutch would engage and grab have me really wanting to launch this thing. I'm still gonna let it break in... I also have pt in 3 hours so I will fill in the rest tomorrow.. :-) thanks to Jason and Andy @ vast! Oh and mike too :-)

DRAKLORE
08-15-2011, 05:34 AM
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/b39812ed.jpg
That jack broke, which meant I had to swap it outwith a POS bottle jack :-/
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/8ba844e1.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/3f306172.jpg
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/fe958f72.jpg



Can't wait to get the tune loaded, car runs like hell at partial throttle lol

A42007
08-15-2011, 08:47 AM
Damn man good stuff! Looking good so far.

AudiA4_20T
08-15-2011, 09:17 AM
lol I did the same thing. One regular jack one bottle jack. It's a huge PITA. Next time get a buddy to help you wiggle the trans in, it saves you an absurd amount of time. Glad you got everything done. What did you use to lock the FW in place?

DRAKLORE
08-15-2011, 10:45 AM
Thanks :-) i used a Scrooge driver lol
Could have really used a buddy on this one lol

DRAKLORE
08-15-2011, 07:46 PM
Bad news :-( I need front tires really bad ! The inside edges are completely gone not quite to the metal but look damn close. I was gonna buy some JOM coils and get some Gruven upper control arms! Unfortunately needed a second vehicle and ot the caddy/bills/debt then..got a ticket for window tint even tho registered in Maine??? Had to pay 200$ to make the tint lighter and now have to pay 100$ to Reynolds GA :-/ by the looks of the court room (school house) they need it...
Then Tonight I realized my car lost the REVO stg2+ tune while it was down all week. I sent out my tuning info sheet to VAST and mike will begin shortly on writing the file. Hopefully the car is ok to run on stock programming cause I am now counting on it! Damn my wife is going to kill me! :-/ I should have taken up fishing lol

DRAKLORE
08-17-2011, 01:55 PM
Cannot wait to get this tune from VAST[race], I have a feeling my car will be one of the fastest B7s out there :-) then i would just need some show to balance out the car! If the tune is anything like the Clutch or LPFP i know it will be very high quality!
[drive][az]

viziers
08-17-2011, 02:00 PM
I have a feeling my car will be one of the fastest B7s out there :-)

Lol.... I thought so too!




vizi

DRAKLORE
08-17-2011, 03:04 PM
No naysayers Vizi lol!
I'm confident that it will be a monster in it's own rights! I'm sorry to hear things didn't work out for you... What are the final numbers for you now? Are you just waiting for W/M :-P

eastwick897
08-17-2011, 03:35 PM
No naysayers Vizi lol!
I'm confident that it will be a monster in it's own rights! I'm sorry to hear things didn't work out for you... What are the final numbers for you now? Are you just waiting for W/M :-P

It is very hard to remote tune a car and get the same results as if the software were specifically written for your car. I personally had a 3071r on my car already and there is no way in hell our cars make 400awhp on 23-24 psi. There are B6's out there with 3076r's not making that with that low of boost and much larger injectors. I hate to sound like a negative nancy or an out right dick, but if vizi isn't making near 400awhp with a larger turbo and a more efficient manifold I doubt you will either. There is nothing more that I would like to see, but with our current fueling problem I don't see it happening anytime soon.

viziers
08-17-2011, 04:59 PM
No naysayers Vizi lol!
I'm confident that it will be a monster in it's own rights! I'm sorry to hear things didn't work out for you... What are the final numbers for you now? Are you just waiting for W/M :-P



The w/m kit came in today! I also have been searching and found a 55 gal drum of meth for 160 so im thinking about it...Lol

I hope you can get the results that I couldn't obtain!!!! But the dyno will tell all (for the most part)



vizi




It is very hard to remote tune a car and get the same results as if the software were specifically written for your car. I personally had a 3071r on my car already and there is no way in hell our cars make 400awhp on 23-24 psi. There are B6's out there with 3076r's not making that with that low of boost and much larger injectors. I hate to sound like a negative nancy or an out right dick, but if vizi isn't making near 400awhp with a larger turbo and a more efficient manifold I doubt you will either. There is nothing more that I would like to see, but with our current fueling problem I don't see it happening anytime soon.




As of now he is still tuning it and the last I heard he was able to make 340ish to the wheels without w/m so we will see what the final number will be sonne enough (fingers crossed)......

I'm also looking into the GB for the HEP manifold they made one with a larger plenum and with 4 direct injected w/m ports AND 4 more injector ports to!


But you are right, with the current injectors available to us its going to be very hard to achieve it.... And the fact that someone says they can do 700+whp on Rs4 is plum crazy!


vizi

DRAKLORE
08-17-2011, 08:27 PM
I agree with eastwick about remote tuning, because it is very hard to get everything 100% when the tuner cannot be there to see things that logs cannot provide!
As far as HP I will continue to believe that VAST was able to make 380& then 400 Awhp on a turbo very similar to mine and without w/m. Jason@vast seemed very passionate and knowledgeable. I doubt he would lie and make such a bold claim.
Vizi we at fairly close, maybe after all is said and done we can meet up and do some runs :-) I am very excited to get everything tuned properly, even if I don't put down a big number, it will be far BETTER And SAFER than the REVO software that it currently has/had :-/ I did see that In Camc thread he made quite a bit of whp even on the stock tune after putting on his hardware. I will feel safe pushing the psi to whatever level gets me close to 380ish whp vast claims 25 should do me right, but we will see when I get the $$ to hit the dyno.
What's the average cost for a pull?

viziers
08-18-2011, 04:29 AM
I agree with eastwick about remote tuning, because it is very hard to get everything 100% when the tuner cannot be there to see things that logs cannot provide!
As far as HP I will continue to believe that VAST was able to make 380& then 400 Awhp on a turbo very similar to mine and without w/m. Jason@vast seemed very passionate and knowledgeable. I doubt he would lie and make such a bold claim.
Vizi we at fairly close, maybe after all is said and done we can meet up and do some runs :-) I am very excited to get everything tuned properly, even if I don't put down a big number, it will be far BETTER And SAFER than the REVO software that it currently has/had :-/ I did see that In Camc thread he made quite a bit of whp even on the stock tune after putting on his hardware. I will feel safe pushing the psi to whatever level gets me close to 380ish whp vast claims 25 should do me right, but we will see when I get the $$ to hit the dyno.
What's the average cost for a pull?



Here it varies from 85 to 125 for 3 pulls w/wideband... I sure hope they can..... Like you said it is better than the revo you are running...... Just be prepared as it took them over a year to get my car where it was at!





vizi

Sprode
08-18-2011, 06:40 AM
Some impressive numbers being thrown around in here. I very much look forward to seeing dynos. GL guys.

viziers
08-18-2011, 07:17 AM
Some impressive numbers being thrown around in here. I very much look forward to seeing dynos. GL guys.


I will have my newest numbers by Monday i hope.....However they will not include w/m as it is not installed yet!




vizi

AudiA4_20T
08-18-2011, 09:55 AM
Have you thought about Maestro? That would definitely be the way I'd go with this. You'll see in the Audi tuning world, basemaps are always pretty decent but relying on 1 guy who writes tunes is always a downfall. It's a single point of failure and you end up waiting months for a revision that might not even fix the issue because time is so limited.

Trust me on this, take as much out of everyone else's hands as you can because you care the most about your car

BTW, this was not a stab at VAST because they are a great company, just a flaw of the tuning market in general

viziers
08-18-2011, 10:14 AM
Have you thought about Maestro? That would definitely be the way I'd go with this. You'll see in the Audi tuning world, basemaps are always pretty decent but relying on 1 guy who writes tunes is always a downfall. It's a single point of failure and you end up waiting months for a revision that might not even fix the issue because time is so limited.

Trust me on this, take as much out of everyone else's hands as you can because you care the most about your car

BTW, this was not a stab at VAST because they are a great company, just a flaw of the tuning market in general


All points lead to the truth on this Clint! but for some of us we have to rely on our tuners & some tuners will go above and beyond the call it's just that those types of tuners are VERY hard to come by these days! But stay tuned to my build thread as there is going to be some news soon I hope!





vizi

AudiA4_20T
08-19-2011, 10:55 AM
All points lead to the truth on this Clint! but for some of us we have to rely on our tuners & some tuners will go above and beyond the call it's just that those types of tuners are VERY hard to come by these days! But stay tuned to my build thread as there is going to be some news soon I hope!





vizi

Understood but if you have Maestro any local tuner can tune for you on a dyno. Once again, I like VAST but with quite a bit of recent problems in their tuning department I'd say they are getting too big too fast, happens to all big tuners

viziers
08-19-2011, 11:12 AM
Understood but if you have Maestro any local tuner can tune for you on a dyno. Once again, I like VAST but with quite a bit of recent problems in their tuning department I'd say they are getting too big too fast, happens to all big tuners

Thats is a good point! I pm'ed ya!



vizi

DRAKLORE
08-20-2011, 03:29 PM
Vizi, I bet you having the 116 bar check valve has Alot to do with some of the issues your having... I'm not sure what year vast avant is? I know I should have the 126 bar but I will still upgrade it

viziers
08-20-2011, 05:08 PM
Vizi, I bet you having the 116 bar check valve has Alot to do with some of the issues your having... I'm not sure what year vast avant is? I know I should have the 126 bar but I will still upgrade it


Yes he said it was starging to breach...



My car maxed out at 361 uncorrected today and the injectors were maxed out! So now it's time for the Meth 142bar return valve and HEP's Stage One+ intake manni!

There is a dyno posted by him in my build thread..



vizi

DRAKLORE
08-20-2011, 06:03 PM
^yea I just saw that, pretty good numbers! I know your looking for Alot more lol I guess we deserve it right? We've dumped as much time passion/$$$ as other makes, yet we seemed to be capped?? Idk all I do know is that we WILL have cars that we are proud to drive, and passionate about. I promise as soon as I get the software on, I will try to save up and get dynoed. I too also need to get that 142bar check valve...

viziers
08-20-2011, 06:59 PM
Mine just came in today..... Take a read at the BT injector thread good info!




vizi

ladedruck
08-20-2011, 08:13 PM
^yea I just saw that, pretty good numbers! I know your looking for Alot more lol I guess we deserve it right? We've dumped as much time passion/$$$ as other makes, yet we seemed to be capped?? Idk all I do know is that we WILL have cars that we are proud to drive, and passionate about. I promise as soon as I get the software on, I will try to save up and get dynoed. I too also need to get that 142bar check valve...

well vast's tune didn't change anything in the fuel rail maps from stock so he wasn't cracking his valve until I raised it. The low pressure was certainly part of his issues

DRAKLORE
08-24-2011, 07:17 PM
Mark@VAST is putting the final touches on the software, I just want to say congrats to Camc for being in the final stages of his engine build. I just saw he made 419awhp@23psi on his eurospec motor. Other than doctor and pnb7 that makes him the fastest b7fsi :-)

-on a sad note my Vw caddy was backed into and had the tailight cracked :-( luckily I was there honking my horn as I watched the dummy do it!? He was pretty much oblivious.. Anyways after fighting with the insurance company they will be covering the costs :-)

Anyways I have also been speaking with some of the people at podi and all I can say is I cannot wait till October rolls around. They are another awesome company that dedicates themselves to the Vw/audi market.
Can anyone tell I'm getting anxious? Lol :-D

Operator
08-24-2011, 07:23 PM
Is pnb7 still classified as an FSI?!? [;)] Heck even Camc is a 2.2 guy now. So here's to Drake putting down the top B7 2.0T numbers!!!!!!!!!

DRAKLORE
08-24-2011, 07:28 PM
Also want to add, after a few weeks of installing the VAST stg3 clutch, no chatter, no slipping and very very oem feel. Once your leg gets used to the stronger pressure plate the clutch engagement is silky smooth. And now I'm convinced something made my shifter get it's tight* feel back, it just clicks into gear almost like I upgraded the shifter bushings?! The car is almost ready minus the tune to go down and post some impressive pass times. Jhm shortshift would also improve on those times as well...
Here's a sneak peak lol
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/ca711a6a.jpg
Pnb7 Definently not an fsi lol doctor has one sick "B6" according to the MoDs lol and I'm not sure if we can really call Camc 2.2 an fsi :-/ so I guess eastwick still has it lol 394ftw

camc
08-24-2011, 07:56 PM
Also want to add, after a few weeks of installing the VAST stg3 clutch, no chatter, no slipping and very very oem feel. Once your leg gets used to the stronger pressure plate the clutch engagement is silky smooth. And now I'm convinced something made my shifter get it's tight* feel back, it just clicks into gear almost like I upgraded the shifter bushings?! The car is almost ready minus the tune to go down and post some impressive pass times. Jhm shortshift would also improve on those times as well...
Here's a sneak peak lol
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/ca711a6a.jpg
Pnb7 Definently not an fsi lol doctor has one sick "B6" according to the MoDs lol and I'm not sure if we can really call Camc 2.2 an fsi :-/ so I guess eastwick still has it lol 394ftw

its still a FSI head. with "crappy" rs4 injectors.

DRAKLORE
08-24-2011, 08:28 PM
UPDATE: tune is up. Mike has been emailing me updates and I'm noticing he doesn't sleep much lol tomorrow I will get my tune on :-D now it's time to sleep!
Camc- good numbers for no "5th" injector and "crappy" rs4 injectors. And especially for 91!!

DRAKLORE
08-25-2011, 07:58 PM
FUCK YEA!!!!
So... That vast tune, WTFFAST!! ok, calm down...
Went over buddies house, chilling watching 300. Install drivers for cheetah cable.. Time to tune this bitch!
Get online loading tune to ecu, 99% done and my Shit acre netbook goes into sleepmode! Noooo lol
Relax, rewrite ecu again, this time wiggle mouse every two seconds to ensure success... Yes it is done...
I let the car idle and let the tune adapt and the car brought the AFR up to a comfortable 14.6 at idle :-)
Ok peace, Imma drive this SOB...
Prologue: I've driven some fast mustangs-saleen, roush, gt500. And had a chance to drive a 440whp g35 twin turbo. Now the g35 was honestly the quickest car I'd driven.
Truth: I took the audi around and let the car adapt, found a empty country road hit wot and held on, it was enough so I had to pull over and let my heartbeat slow. the fucking thing is beast fast, I can't say it's as fast as that g35 but I will say it's probably very close to 400awhp and I'm at 21 psi right now. The clutch Still a champ, no chatter, no slip.
Second try: now from a stop I hit the gas and the car pulls very F ing hard, fast enough where I barely trust myself to look down at the tach and take my eyes off the blurry lines. I shift a bit early and hit second, the tires squelched and the traction control light flashed, WTF Did I just fucking do that? I let it out and pulled over. I guess I really need those new tires! I did another pull and I'm telling you this car is going to be beast. I don't want to say much more till I post up the FUCKING VIDS I TOOK! <that's right (iPhone sorry lol)
So I want to get dynod now cause I am pretty sure MIKE@VAST is a god or at least has the secrets of the devil???!
I'm tired so goodnight. And feel free to welcome me into the realm of stg3
"I can't believe I was such a douche to think this turbo was "fast" on stg2+ software?!?! What a fucking lie, don't do it!"

Operator
08-25-2011, 08:11 PM
Awesome news man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can only imagine the RUSH you got when you got on the throttle.

DRAKLORE
08-25-2011, 08:21 PM
Im short and it pushed me far enough back onto the seat I had to really reach for those pedals :-O
I really just want someone else to drive it so they know it's not just me excited cause how fast "I" think it is! But I will take it to the drag strip and then dyno. Mike still wants to do a revision once I log, mind you for being in Michigan, it's amazing how spot on his first file seems to be!! I will get more comfortable and bump the boost up next week...

DRAKLORE
08-25-2011, 09:11 PM
EPIC NIGHT with post 200 on this thread I hit four rings :-)[az]

THECOUNT
08-26-2011, 04:55 AM
VARY NICE SHANE!!!!!!!!!

I am more then happy that the result have not only meet your expectations but also surpassed them. I have more goodies for you when your ready!

AudiA4_20T
08-26-2011, 05:45 AM
Nice man, I'd say your still probably ~340whp but that's a fun car all day every day

viziers
08-26-2011, 06:08 AM
Congrats man, glad you are enjoying it! now lets see some dynos of pump gas and no race gas and no w/m and then dyno then with w/m....






vizi

viziers
08-26-2011, 06:10 AM
Nice man, I'd say your still probably ~340whp but that's a fun car all day every day



I had thought the same thing when i first got mine too... Post some logs for us to see iof you can as well for comparison sakes....




vizi

camc
08-26-2011, 08:26 AM
Nice man, I'd say your still probably ~340whp but that's a fun car all day every day

nothing wrong with that! boat loads of fun fun.

viziers
08-26-2011, 08:33 AM
nothing wrong with that! boat loads of fun fun.


Very true!



vizi

DRAKLORE
08-26-2011, 08:57 AM
^yea I will turn up the boost. 23-24 might be a little bit before it gets dynod
I know its closer to 350. Just Definently an increase over before. Well see where more boost gets me :-)

Operator
08-27-2011, 09:17 AM
Where are the vids!!!!!

DRAKLORE
08-27-2011, 12:48 PM
Here's a VID :-D sorry for iPhone quality


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKBExw-56gE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Keep posted and there will be some daytime passes and such to come :-)

DRAKLORE
08-29-2011, 11:54 PM
Allright so today I went out to shop for tires, a friend hooked me up with some tires and alignment. But while I was driving around there was a bit of hesitation a partial throttle, then my engine light came on. Long story short my MaF was contaminated pretty bad, a few weeks back I cleaned my BSR filter and then went a little to heavy on the oil :-/ oops! While I was there I cleared the codes readjusted my turbo inlet pipe and turned up the boost to 23psi! I'm now running a higher methanol percentage, even tho the tune is keeping the AFR at a very nice level.
-side note, was originally going out to do some logs. I went to grab my eBay vagcom cable and whadya know the pita dog chewed it up!!! I hadn't touched it in quite some time so now im pissed cause I need the damn thing lol. It makes me wonder if I can use the vast cable to do vagcom?? Oh well I guess it's just another thing to add to the list.
**************-
Fuel rail check valve
Serpentine belt tensioner
Timing belt
Fuel filter?
IE rods
Better coils
Rear tires
Adj control arms
Front bumper
Body work
Wheels refinished
Front spacers
3m carbon fiber DI- noc trim/mirrors
Headliner redone
Headlights....
Vast Valve cover
Copper plugs
Possibly hpfpupgrade stg2 pump
And VAG-COM LOL

And then dtm conversion... And then I might be done hahahaha

DRAKLORE
08-29-2011, 11:58 PM
That's what another 3500$-4500$ ? Ouch

DRAKLORE
08-30-2011, 12:46 AM
http://vimeo.com/couchmode/chadneuweiler/videos/sort:date/28253717
^a coworker took that video after a gtg on Saturday.

Here's how my rear quarter window is Lookin :-)
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/01736d19.jpg
And ecu cover
http://i739.photobucket.com/albums/xx33/draklore/a2b51573.jpg

THECOUNT
08-30-2011, 05:53 AM
Sorry to hear about the cable, unfortunitly the one i sent you will not work for logging.

DRAKLORE
08-30-2011, 07:03 AM
I have a buddy with one in the area so I will see if he can hook me up in the mean time :-)

AudiA4_20T
08-30-2011, 04:21 PM
Looks quick on the video

viziers
09-03-2011, 09:13 AM
Updates?!?!?!
Dyno??-



vizi

Operator
09-21-2011, 01:54 PM
Looks like APR digs the 71r too: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/450054-APR-TSI-Stage-III-Development

viziers
09-21-2011, 02:02 PM
To bad it's for the TSI engine....



vizi

DRAKLORE
09-21-2011, 02:16 PM
My VAG COM cable came today from china lol. Other than that I've taken a small breakfrom the audi to get my finances back in order. My next step is my suspension, and possibly some leverage maintenance items, I'm really at the point where I would rather not try to push the limits of my motor much further until I make sure the system has some integrity and can handle it and then some.
Maybe in this time frame I willtackle trying to trade down to some lighter 18s as well.
Keep posted, honestly I am a true believer that the perfect TRACK TURBO for the fsi is the 3071.. Big enough to make some decent power, but not to big where it spools up to slow. Also Is a popular turbo and dual ball bearing, so replacement parts are usually readily available.

Shane Drake

Operator
09-21-2011, 02:19 PM
To bad it's for the TSI engine....



vizi

Yeh, I've noticed the TSI engine transversal is getting all the attention. The B8 A4 guys don't even have a Stage III. And they got left behind on the K04 update (APR was able to squeeze another 65 hp and 73 lb ft of torque out of the existing tune for the K04 setup on the traversal 2.0 TSI engines).

Operator
09-21-2011, 02:23 PM
My VAG COM cable came today from china lol. Other than that I've taken a small breakfrom the audi to get my finances back in order. My next step is my suspension, and possibly some leverage maintenance items, I'm really at the point where I would rather not try to push the limits of my motor much further until I make sure the system has some integrity and can handle it and then some.


So did you get the tune?

viziers
09-21-2011, 02:27 PM
My VAG COM cable came today from china lol. Other than that I've taken a small breakfrom the audi to get my finances back in order. My next step is my suspension, and possibly some leverage maintenance items, I'm really at the point where I would rather not try to push the limits of my motor much further until I make sure the system has some integrity and can handle it and then some.
Maybe in this time frame I willtackle trying to trade down to some lighter 18s as well.
Keep posted, honestly I am a true believer that the perfect TRACK TURBO for the fsi is the 3071.. Big enough to make some decent power, but not to big where it spools up to slow. Also Is a popular turbo and dual ball bearing, so replacement parts are usually readily available.

Shane Drake


Yea yea yea... Lol show us some logs and dynos as we have all been waiting patiently...Lol



vizi

DRAKLORE
09-21-2011, 07:46 PM
Haha all in good time. Got a European front and grille and round headlights, bently manual, control arms, five wheels with good tires, a giant box of control modules, wires and bolts/hardware. And a washer tank for my caddy today. Paid the guy 60$ lol... Imagine if picking up parts for the b7 was that easy and cheap!

thenofjboy
09-22-2011, 03:29 PM
^ Thats a nice pile o parts

DRAKLORE
10-27-2011, 08:13 PM
Champion copper plugs going in tommorow, along with stiffer DV spring.
Next week, two rear tires and then shopping for suspension.
If work permits I'll break out the vag com and get the logging done, been a very busy last couple months on base :-/

Operator
10-27-2011, 08:15 PM
How'd that exercise go?

DRAKLORE
10-27-2011, 08:46 PM
Worked nights 12hr shifts, and took away from my weekends. Now were ramping up for another one (seems like one every month) but alot of our equipment is out on a TDY... So they changed our UTCs and all the people who know the radio side of things are TDY so us satcommers are like chickens with our heads cut off lol
But I'm going TDY in a week for a week or so (so I am trying to not get involved lol), but I'm kinda bummed because my VW truck blew the head gasket :-/ now I've got two money pits! And it's just a bad time of year for me, can't wait for tax season lol

jerseybrian
11-06-2011, 03:56 PM
What wheels are you rockin Shane? Hartmann Reps?

Awesome build thread. You're car is a great template for what I want out of my car. I eventually want to run a GTX3071R with a 38mm Ext. Wastegate and an open dump tube [:D] After I get my VAST W/M kit installed and buy an ER FMIC, all that is left to do is buy Stage 3 parts lol.

DRAKLORE
11-06-2011, 06:10 PM
That's pretty much what I've got :-)
I was contemplating running an open dump lol don't need to
Much attention drawn to me tho lol

jerseybrian
11-06-2011, 06:19 PM
That's pretty much what I've got :-)
I was contemplating running an open dump lol don't need to
Much attention drawn to me tho lol

You're running the new billet GTX wheel in your 3071R? I'm also gonna go with a Stage 3 VAST clutch cuz of you and cuz it's a full faced clutch. Yay for streetability!

Do we have an option for a Steel LWFW? Or did you go with another OEM FW?

DRAKLORE
11-06-2011, 06:54 PM
No not GTX I missed that lol, first I've heard but it's prolly a bit lighter?
I stuck with OE fw, but I'm sure if you talked to Andy@vastperformance.com he could let you know the flywheel options available. They have a ton of stuff available that's not listed on their site.
Where should I look to find out about this new billet wheel?

jerseybrian
11-06-2011, 07:05 PM
No not GTX I missed that lol, first I've heard but it's prolly a bit lighter?
I stuck with OE fw, but I'm sure if you talked to Andy@vastperformance.com he could let you know the flywheel options available. They have a ton of stuff available that's not listed on their site.
Where should I look to find out about this new billet wheel?

You can look it up on Garrett's site or on ATP's site

http://www.atpturbo.com/root/releases/images/release111110/GTX3071RandGT3071Roverlap.jpg

CorneliusRox
11-09-2011, 06:56 PM
Wow, I just read through this all. Pretty impressive. I cant believe you dont have a couple friends that helped you with that clutch!
Keep it up Shane!

DRAKLORE
11-09-2011, 08:31 PM
Thx man, I'm just glad it wasn't as heavy as that trans dodge puts in with the cummins. We used to refer to it as a whale. Even on a good tranny jack that transmission is dangerously unstable!! And most of the ones I took out were on dodge plow trucks so they had a hydraulic or pto setup attached to them!!!
That is the last time I will ever attempt something like that by myself under those circumstances! I'm not a big dude, so I fit fine in tight spaces like that, but even tho I work out daily, I still hard a hard time benchpressing that trans :-/


I appreciate the positive feedback :-) everytime I get to work on my car, it just increases the experience I can hopefully extend to another member whos "stuck" in that same situation.
When I get back on my feet again, I'll be able to tackle some of the overdue mods and maintenance on the b7

CorneliusRox
11-10-2011, 03:46 PM
ha ha I cannot tell you how much I know exactly what you are talking about. My buddy's 03 dually with the 6mt killed a clutch so while we were waiting for the new one to get up to the UP we went to a costume party (that is why I look like a goon in the pics), then at 12:30 the clutch arived so we started wrenching in a parking lot, it started snowing, the tranny jack didnt fit, we used a regular jack, it got stuck on a crack in the parking lot, we used my truck to pull it forwards (very carefully). Finally got it done mid day the next day. What a PITA!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/TelevatorTMV/n1258770121_30065836_4058.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/TelevatorTMV/n1258770121_30065842_5845.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/TelevatorTMV/n1258770121_30065844_6465.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/TelevatorTMV/n1258770121_30065847_7417.jpg

Then he destroyed an exhaust valve, killed the piston, head, and turbo, so we pulled the motor...
Fun stuff. This is what happens when you push 550rwhp and keep the stock turbo and intercooler. It gets real hot!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/TelevatorTMV/166277_1520906303465_1258770121_31207132_116844_n. jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/TelevatorTMV/166199_1520909703550_1258770121_31207153_3894968_n .jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v733/TelevatorTMV/165600_1522998435767_1258770121_31211120_5322820_n .jpg


I do love my Ram Cummins trucks though

DRAKLORE
11-10-2011, 04:16 PM
Haha you do look like a goon! Good thing you had that forklift handy! Gotta go slow when your doing it that way!

How much did you charge, for the mustache rides?! Lol

CorneliusRox
11-10-2011, 04:55 PM
ha ha about $free.fifty
Yeah luckily we made friends with the local Arctic Cat/Zuki dealership owner. Fixed his 03 cummins for him ;-) That was not a fork lift though, that was a front end loader with a fork front. lol a whole lot of machine right there.

drumnjuny
11-15-2011, 03:45 PM
props, now dynooo [up]

Operator
11-21-2011, 12:34 PM
To bad it's for the TSI engine....
vizi
Once again, I know it's the TSI engine on a FWD car, but 501awhp (100oct) is dang impressive. http://www.goapr.com/products/stage3plus_20_tsi_trans.html

Even with all the differences in the engine, I venture Shane should put down impressive numbers "once" he FINALLY puts his car on the dyno.

DRAKLORE
11-21-2011, 01:40 PM
Some day dammit lol

AudiA4_20T
11-22-2011, 09:32 PM
Once again, I know it's the TSI engine on a FWD car, but 501awhp (100oct) is dang impressive. http://www.goapr.com/products/stage3plus_20_tsi_trans.html

Even with all the differences in the engine, I venture Shane should put down impressive numbers "once" he FINALLY puts his car on the dyno.

Not whp it's dynojet chp, impressive but APR always likes to stretch numbers

The 93 file would probably do high 300s whp on a mustang dyno

jibatnes
12-02-2011, 09:14 AM
Have just read through your thread Shane :) its an amazing build you have done. Keep it up, inspiration for the rest of us :)

DRAKLORE
12-02-2011, 11:37 PM
Thx man :-)

I just ordered some black silicone reducers for the FMIC :-) a little more stealthy and I went out last week and noticed a small hole in each one? Like someone stuck a pen on something through there :-/ but I hadn't noticed any boost leaks???
Oh well, I also picked up some lighter 18s despite the many NO's I got from everyone lol
I've never been known for trending towards things like that. But I'll be sure to post pics when I get the hub centric rings for them. :-)

Operator
12-03-2011, 06:23 AM
I'm sure you already know. But lube up the base where your hubcentric rings will go. I didn't and when swapping to my winters, had to pretty much destroy 2 of my plastic ones.

DRAKLORE
12-03-2011, 09:31 AM
Thx for reminding me :-) it's been a little while since I've been in the game and would have prob rushed and forgot :-)

FLYINGLEGGS
12-28-2011, 10:44 PM
Not whp it's dynojet chp, impressive but APR always likes to stretch numbers

The 93 file would probably do high 300s whp on a mustang dyno

They have a video of the 500 chp run on a dyno putting down well over 400 whp. And their dyno is quite a heart breaker. I know of a car that put down more awhp on a mustang dyno than on the apr dyno. Their dyno is legit.

btw, love how you compliment their engineering and results then insult their "number stretching", which is ludacris.

FLYINGLEGGS
12-28-2011, 10:46 PM
Draklore,
did you get your 3rd gear fixed. Was it a synchro? 3rd gear synchros suck!.