b6 front brakes on my b7

[ericjohnston27]

well almost done with the winter rebuild of the car and have one more thing on my mind. the front wheels need at least a 10mm spacer in order for the wheels to bolt up. that however leaves me no room to go lower once the fender hits the tire. i have grinded down some of the b7 caliper and rolled/slightly pulled the front arches. im still not happy with how the front sits. i have been hearing murmers that the b6 front calipers WILL fit the fronts in a b7, bu i guess i have never looked into it until now. as i am still newish to the car, i was wondering if any of you knew if this was true? also as all of you know the front calipers on the b7 are ginormous. wondering what kind of gains i can be expecting with b6 calipers. gains meaning if i need a 10mm spacer just to clear the caliper, im hoping maybe a 5mm or hopefully no spacer to clear the b6 calipers. and i know it would help with the offset of the wheels, but if you know the wheels, they dont have a set et. i have been told high 20s as best guess. i wish i could get my hands on one and try it out, but havent been able to find any locally. any help very much appreciated!

car:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1321/5162160759_0530670f5d_b.jpg

can see in that shot how high in the front i need to be just to not rub, i would like to tuck tire while at drive height.

as far down as ive gotten from grinding/ rolling fenders. i can still get maybe 3/4" lower, i want that

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5043/5216458295_179764e837_z.jpg

[hercfe]

You will lose a good bit of braking performance going down to b6 brakes, but you seem to care more about looks than performanc, so it should work for you. Otherwise, you could do a real bbk and that should clear up plenty of room for those ghastly wheels.

Are you planning on molding the rear of the fender to the side skirts? That gap is a bit big.

And there ain't no way that those wheels have a et in the 20s. If you have them on with a 10 mm spacer in that pic I would think they are closer to 35. Either way, the b6 brakes will work, but IMO it will be an awful decision.

[jcut825]

if i was going to spend money on new breaks they would be larger, not a downgrade. performance is my choice.

[b7kevin]

if i was going to spend money on new breaks they would be larger, not a downgrade. performance is my choice.

x2

[vbrad26]

typical lol
and if i were to be spending money it would be on brakes
not breaks

[Dangler]

Break Dancing!!?????

http://www.freakingnews.com/images/app_images/break-dance-1.jpg

Eric, let me look up the diagrams in ETKA, and see how the b6 brakes mount to the knuckle. I can't see going to a smaller rotor and caliper reducing your braking ability that drastically.

Also for those against this, remember the purpose of this is for clearance. The centers of the rs's are pretty flat, just like lm's and they give us b7 guys issues with fitment, even with an et that "should" work. remember et isn't everything, you need to take into consideration the caliper design and the center/spoke design of the wheel. Also Both rotors are flat surfaced, and straight vented, so they'll fade about the same (but i doubt the OP is going to auto-x or track the car). So lets be realistic here folks. The difference in diameter is mm's the pads are the same, size. So same friction surface, just smaller diameter means a closer radius distance to the hub, so a shorter moment-arm. but for street use, this isn't going to be an issue. You'll be able to stop just fine.

[eskimopunk]

Lol @ people talking about performance. If you don't track your car then it doesn't exactly matter. Sure BBK's are nice and look and perform great, but OP doesn't need a BBK.

OP, what if you get a bigger spacer and then get adjustable control arms to counteract the poke?

[chrislane31]

You can't just put b6 calipers on the mounting points are different. You will need new calipers, carriers, rotors and pads.

[Dangler]

As chris said, you can't just bolt up the calipers, you need the carriers and new pads and rotors and calipers. oh and those that bashed and didn't help, keep your opinions to yourself. how about you actually try to help.

Here are screen shots from my etka.

b6
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/2004frontbrakes.jpg

b7
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/booyadp/2006frontbrakes.jpg

you can see the differences immediately.

[Dangler]

oh and look up Audi dismantlers, they have these parts in stock most likely. I know that shokan was easy to deal with as long as you supply the part #. and bought an upper strut mount from them for about 50% new cost.

[eskimopunk]

oh and those that bashed and didn't help, keep your opinions to yourself. how about you actually try to help.



Dude, that's pretty ironic coming from us.

[Dangler]

true....

[Checho]

I heard irony and no help! HERRO!?!

[Gil2.0T]

I heard irony and no help! HERRO!?!

supp

[Geoffafa]

lower it. RACEKOR!

[ericjohnston27]

looking at the etka doagrams, it looks very promising that this will work out. anyone know if bolting up is a done deal? and yes i know i will need everything. calipers/carriers/ etc. this is not a performance car, its a low one. i dont care about the dumbass responses. only concerned with my question. if you cant answer it... thanks for the bump.

[chrislane31]

Bolt the wheels on a 1.8t b6 and see how they fit.

[Matt@EuropaParts]

The suspensions are largely similar between the two cars, and the fact that B7 brakes will bit on a B6 and vice versa (the latter at least the case with BBK's), you should be able to bolt up the B6 brakes quite easily. That being said, you're going to need the entire setup, as they're much smaller, but anyone on the B6 forum who has upgrade brakes will probably be willing to unload theirs...we have no use for them. Then spend a few hundred bucks on new pads and stainless steel lines (which make a big difference with that setup...if you need rotors, replace them too) and generally refreshing the setup and you should be good to go. The only thing I'm wondering is about the brake balance...if you go with a 1.8T setup (the more common one), the front rotors will be the same size as the rear B7 rotors...but I'm thinking you won't really feel too much of a difference.

[yellorado]

Bolt the wheels on a 1.8t b6 and see how they fit.

this.

and i would try to fit them to a v6 b6 gen, they have 312mm discs and carriers, but use the same calipers as 1.8t. if these fit your wheels, you're not downgrading a whole lot (1.8t fronts are 288mm thats pretty small for a car that heavy)

[ericjohnston27]

The suspensions are largely similar between the two cars, and the fact that B7 brakes will bit on a B6 and vice versa (the latter at least the case with BBK's), you should be able to bolt up the B6 brakes quite easily. That being said, you're going to need the entire setup, as they're much smaller, but anyone on the B6 forum who has upgrade brakes will probably be willing to unload theirs...we have no use for them. Then spend a few hundred bucks on new pads and stainless steel lines (which make a big difference with that setup...if you need rotors, replace them too) and generally refreshing the setup and you should be good to go. The only thing I'm wondering is about the brake balance...if you go with a 1.8T setup (the more common one), the front rotors will be the same size as the rear B7 rotors...but I'm thinking you won't really feel too much of a difference.

THANK YOU!!! i would love to bolt the wheels up to a b6, but i am literally the only vw/audi guy in my area. im not saying that for effect, im dead serious. i honestly have no one around that i could try this with or anything, thats why i came here for some advice/answers. i have found that the front b7 rotors are 320x30mm yeah? so in "downgrading" to a b6 brake setup ill prolly end up with b6 rotors as well. i would love if anyone knew someone that has anything laying around, junk, whatever. just for fitting purposes, i would pay shipping both ways if they wan them back. anyone help there?