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DGS4
03-09-2005, 01:31 PM
Alright, Looks like ill be candy dipping into the B5 world.

I will be in the market for a A4 sometime within the next few months and need some help from you guys in this forum.

My goal is this: Fuel efficient, Quattro, Reliable.

Of all the B5 years, which one would you recommend and why? Also which one of the B5 years would you consider trouble free and whats the average price one should pay for it?

Thanks guys !

Quattrocket
03-09-2005, 02:58 PM
LOL! get a honda. in my experience. fuel efficient, Quattro and reliability dont go with Audi. if reliability is an issue (of course it is)i would go with the v6 just because there are a lot issues with the 1.8T. Quattro is pretty hard on gas I find so if u want it your gonna have to sacrifice gas mileage. If u live in the south id go with frontrack, just because ive never even needed or felt the quattro in the summer. If youre in the market for any car with AWD, Audi is the way to go. Ive driven in Subarus and Mitsubishis with AWD and they are completely inferior. I would go with a 2000/2001 if you are getting a 1.8T cuz they have the same engine as the b6's with an extra 25 HP. Good Luck Shopping, DGS4!

808a41.8t
03-09-2005, 03:10 PM
i thought only the 2001 has the same motor as the b6. isnt there some sort of varialbe valve timing on 2001+ motors. correct me if im wrong please. thats what i heard....

DGS4
03-09-2005, 04:25 PM
Well fuel efficiency anything better than the S4 is efficient ! 150 to the tank on a V8 is horrendous. But now I have a MR2 as a daily driver commuter car and it blows donkeys. When it snows the car doesnt commute anywhere and im forced to take the S4 to the train station and then leave it outside on some side street until I get home. (No Good) Whatever possessed me to get the MR2 god knows.

TomRitt18944
03-09-2005, 10:50 PM
I like the 99.5, new body style but still drive by cable, Also better flowing head on the 1.8t than the newer 1.8t's

DGS4
03-10-2005, 01:43 PM
Anyone else with some good tips or recommendations on purchasing a B5 in concern? The more the merrier and it would help out greatly. Thanks !

organasised
03-10-2005, 02:42 PM
out of curiosity- are you buying the b5 to replace the b6 or 2nd car to go alongside it?

AudiMV
03-10-2005, 03:56 PM
i would go for a 2001 b5 if you want a 1.8 but it you want a 2.8 go for 2000-2001 cause they are ndbw....the price range of the 2000+ varies from 16,000 and up, some dealers still sell b5's so you can get them CPO too, not a bad deal, i got mine for 18,000 w/ 22,000 and a CPO until 100,000 or 2 years, 2001 is the only year they made the 170 HP engine for the b5

DGS4
03-11-2005, 04:24 PM
Thanks for that info AudiMV, Everyones answers are helping me out. I was looking at possibly a 99.5+ A4, I wanted a 1.8T at first, but then im afraid of modding it to death. Although a CPO 2.8 sounds good and steady.


Originally posted by organasised
out of curiosity- are you buying the b5 to replace the b6 or 2nd car to go alongside it?

The B5 is going to replace my MR2. I am currently selling the MR2 to help fund the B5.

DGS4
05-06-2005, 08:37 PM
Alright guys, its time to move. I was looking into most likely a 97-98 2.8L B5.

Any thoughts or opinions on these years? Thanks guys !

AB18
05-06-2005, 08:43 PM
99.5 right here,best of the b5s.

ak_a4
05-06-2005, 09:11 PM
I have a 01 1.8T Q. It gets about 26 mpg around town and about 32 mpg on the highway, and i don't drive slow.

94jedi
05-07-2005, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by DGS4
Alright guys, its time to move. I was looking into most likely a 97-98 2.8L B5.

Any thoughts or opinions on these years? Thanks guys !

Hey bro, I'll sell you my B5 A4! pm me!

SeanF
05-07-2005, 07:03 AM
dont get a 97 2.8, thats the 12v, get the 98 which is 30v

DGS4
05-07-2005, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by 1.8.se7en
dont get a 97 2.8, thats the 12v, get the 98 which is 30v

Yes ! This is the help I need ! Thank you sir !

IKE20VA4
05-07-2005, 11:33 PM
well i just bought my audi a month ago so i will share my research! hope it helps you decide!

Things to look for on 99.5 – 01.5 audi a4s

99 has
4 spoke wheel
2 piece halogen non-projectors
older taillights
old instrument cluster w/ out display
old stereo and climatronic
old side turnsignals
upper trunk badging
only rear quattro badge
no fogs
99 sport pack = same as 99.5 spt pkg

99.5 got
3 spoke steering wheel
1 piece projector headlights
newer style taillights
mid-trunk badging
front quattro badge
newer side turnsignals
old stereo and climatronic
old instrument cluster w/ out display
foglights
99.5 sport package = 16inch 7 spoke wheels and tighter susp.

00 got (plus 99.5)
newer instrument cluster w/ display
newer stereo and climatronic display
01 got (plus 00)
20 horsepower

•00-01 brakes not reacting quickly to pressing of the pedal

•Cam/ timing belt Water pump replacement at or around 60k (no more than $1100 job)

•Front Control arm(s) bushings ($600 for parts) labor ~$400?

•Wheel bearings (when driving side to side swerving you’ll hear a nasty grinding sound if they are shot beyond shot when damage has been done)

•Anyway you're specifically talking about an A4. The early ones were notorious for front suspension track control ball joints. (not sure of the year) Ask the owner if he has had them replaced. If so that's ok as a revised ball joint came out I believe around about 96/97. Any Audi parts guy should be able to confirm this. However, even if they can't. The offending ball joint generally makes itself known in the form of a very obvious creak on pressing down on the suspension

•If buying a turbo charged one. Cunningly quiz the owner how he/she drives it. ie. do they allow it to warm up before thrashing it. Possibly let them drive it for the first part of the test drive. Equally important do they allow it to cool down before shutting it off after a thrashing session. Not so easy to determine.

•1997, I wouldn't pay more than 12k(with every option, and car in perfect shape)
1998, i wouldn't pay more than 13K(with every option, and car in perfect shape)
1999, i wouldn't pay more than 14k(with every option, and car in perfect shape)
2000, i wouldn't pay more than 16k(with every option, and car in perfect shape)

•As to the car, other irritants to look out for are a in-dash driver display unit that fades (no cure, other that complete replacement which is mega-expensive, so live with it) and a Concert stereo head unit, with a volume control that has a mind of its own.

•Check out if the gearbox has been replaced, im on my third and at £1500 a go, its not nice, it was just out of warrenty too

•well i've heard you can push down on the four corners of the car, and listen for a squeak. Often tiems when you go over bumps you'll here squeaking and thumps. You can also jack the car up and see if there is any play in the control arms. They should be solid.

•2000 that 1.8Ts got drive by wire

•Sport package includes: sport shocks, springs, and swaybars. Now just add the three spoke steering wheel and 17 inch wheels. Same HP and everything else

•2001.5 has the K03 sport and you know its a 2001.5 if there is a little red flag lookin thing coming off the body of the T in 1.8T

•Also make sure the cruise control works, I just bought one and it's broken. I think it's the stalk switch that goes bad.

•see if the rear diff is leaking. Thats another common problem

•After 98, 1.8T has leatherette standard and sports seats as a stand-alone option. 2.8 has both cloth and leather sports seats available.

• in 2001 the 1.8T got VVT the HP rating went from 150 to 170.

•MAF Sensor(other board)
BPV Faulty(other board)

•coilpacks were an issue with 2001 cars

•timing belt, waterpump, tensioner, rollers, cam seal, control arms, tie rod ends, sludge...thats all i can think of right now

aspw
05-12-2005, 12:17 PM
sweet that's a good writeup!

skene
05-12-2005, 12:45 PM
it's a good write up but there are a lot of misinformation in it.

Such as the option of having either a 4 or a 3 spoke steering wheel regardless of sport or non sport.

Displays were available in the 1997+ A4s depending on options.

Fog lights integrated in the 2pc headlights.

Only rear quattro badge? I think not. All A4s with Quattro had it on the front grille, on the dash and on the rear.

Now if they fell off or removed its a whole different story.

Audimarc
05-12-2005, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by TomRitt18944
I like the 99.5, new body style but still drive by cable, Also better flowing head on the 1.8t than the newer 1.8t's

1999.5 because it's nicer than earlier (lights, etc) 2.8 because it's more reliable and has a nicer interior package.....

DGS4
05-12-2005, 07:43 PM
Thanks guys for all the help.

I dont think the 99.5+ is going to happen unless it falls into my lap stupid cheap. Next week i'll be going with a friend of mine to a dealer auction to possibly find and bring home a 98 2.8L. The MR2 should be sold and out the door by this saturday.

DGS4
09-26-2005, 10:41 AM
(sorry for the grave digging)

Update:

I sold the MR2 in Late May. I ended up buying a 99 Infiniti G20T to my dismay was a huge disappointment (it was a huge deal I couldn't refuse). YET its up on the market to get a 99.5 or newer A4.

Does anyone know what year the 2.8's came with dual power seats?

The guy has a really clean 99.5 18T Silver on Black that I am considering buying unless theres a 2.8 that I can find.

Now as far as the 99.5+ A4 18T is concerned. Anything year specific I should be careful about? Specifically looking to see if theres a problem with?

You guys are A+ and great of help.

Kevin
09-26-2005, 10:57 AM
99.5 is a goood year. 01s specifically have cam chain tensioner problems sometimes due to the vvt. Nothing ive heard of specifically for 00 other then it can take the j31 program for k04, if you do plan to mod.

SeanF
09-26-2005, 11:34 AM
99.5 is my favorite year depending on how much modding you want to do

chips for a 99.5 are 100 cheaper, cuz they are NDBW

if you want to go k04, 2000 is the year to have

2001 is good cuz the xchip if you can afford that new of a car...

peja
09-26-2005, 12:17 PM
FWIW My 99.5 1.8t which is at 150k and has been chipped since day one still has the original clutch and turbo. Car seems pretty much bulletproof (knock on wood!)

Devious27t
09-26-2005, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by TomRitt18944
I like the 99.5, new body style but still drive by cable, Also better flowing head on the 1.8t than the newer 1.8t's

ATW and AWM heads have been making more power with the same setups as of late.

oh and my A4 is for sale. It is stage 3 PES, custom tuned and has had all the necessary maintenance done on it. Let me know if you are interested in it. PM me for more details.

b00st
09-26-2005, 03:21 PM
2001 B5 is hard to tune...i like the 99.5 but i could be biased ;)

B528QM
09-26-2005, 03:39 PM
I have 2000 A4 2.8 Quattro with 70K... fully loaded, leather, cd changer, roof, dual power seats... etc. PM me if you're interested.

Meddie600RR
09-26-2005, 05:07 PM
If you want fuel efficient dont get a 2.8...believe me. I get about 16mpg in the city, and ~23 on the highway. It could be the way I drive, but the Estimates are 17/21. Not that great....

almaster666
09-26-2005, 05:44 PM
2001 1.8t 5 speed quattro

BeeFiveQuattro
09-26-2005, 08:38 PM
MY2001's have the best suspension, are the fastest, and were celebratory to 20years of Quattro in the States.
(front tower brace/fastest out of production/available with Type-Rs4's & discounted interior packages)


<'99 are the best years for dealing with S4 side skirts (no lower door trim)

BarryT82
09-28-2005, 02:55 AM
The 2001.5 has different wheels than the 2001 supposedly. My car is a 2001.5, but it has the 2001 wheels and the little red flag off of the 1.8T badge on the back that 20VTRUBO A4 mentioned.

SeanF
09-28-2005, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by BeeFiveQuattro
<'99 are the best years for dealing with S4 side skirts (no lower door trim)

thats only the 96 that doesnt have the trim