Blown Clutch???? B7 A4 2.0T quattro

[ferrariyellow44]

I have a serious problem on my hands, I think. I have a 2006 A4 2.0T quattro and I have a feeling the clutch may be shot. I was on the highway in 6th gear and went to pass someone, in the same gear, full throttled the car, the RPMs went up, but the car didn't pull very hard. As well, I attempted a somewhat hard pass in 3rd gear, and they car didnt pull hard at all. I think the clutch is slipping because the car isnt accelerating hard at all whenever I try and accelerate rapdily. The only mods the car has is a REVO ecu flash and a Koni FSD kit. PLEASE someone tell me if my clutch is blow, what it will cost, or possibly something just needs adjustment. I really dont drive the car hard and know my way around a 6 speed. The car is CPO and has 48,000 miles on it.

PLEASE ANY FEEDBACK WOULD HELP!!!

[rtavares88]

clutch is not blown its just worn out. those are signs indicating you need to replace.

[AUDIchad]

Sounds like a blown clutch to me. I blew the one out of my B6 with APR 1+. Ended up getting a good deal on a Clutchmaster FX100. It was a good replacement. I found a good local shop to put it in and did it all for right at $1k, but I think that was considered cheap. So good luck.

[ferrariyellow44]

FUCKKK! do these clutches wear out quickly or something? And do you think it had anything to do with the extra torque the Revo upgrade puts out?

[AUDIchad]

Yeah- the extra torque definately takes it's toll. Search around, I think a lot of people eventually end up replacing their clutch after adding power. I had one fun evening running around, nothing extreme, just a spirited run and that did mine in. I can't ever smell anything but my wife was like what's that smell and I knew it. Just like brake pads they eventually wear out. I just got a B7 w/ 47k on it and am thinking about going to APR 1+ so I am also saving for a clutch shortly after... Sorry man that sucks.

[ferrariyellow44]

So if i put in a new OEM clutch and keep the Revo, it will probably destroy that new clutch shortly after? Pretty much I have to upgrade the clutch in order to keep the Revo? Cause that sounds like bullshit on Revos part.

[seanj130]

Does CPO cover a clutch?

Best regards,
Sean.

[ferrariyellow44]

^^ Nopeeee, Audi really has to do a better job with their cars. So much shit has already broken on this car and now a clutch at 48K? I had Mercedes with 200,000 miles on it with the original clutch. fyi

[seanj130]

This link may be useful on telling you what is covered by CPO.

http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=1553524

Best regards,
Sean.

[rowyourown]

maybe the previous owner couldn't drive for shit.

[mr shickadance]

I have a serious problem on my hands, I think. I have a 2006 A4 2.0T quattro and I have a feeling the clutch may be shot. I was on the highway in 6th gear and went to pass someone, in the same gear, full throttled the car, the RPMs went up, but the car didn't pull very hard. As well, I attempted a somewhat hard pass in 3rd gear, and they car didnt pull hard at all. I think the clutch is slipping because the car isnt accelerating hard at all whenever I try and accelerate rapdily. The only mods the car has is a REVO ecu flash and a Koni FSD kit. PLEASE someone tell me if my clutch is blow, what it will cost, or possibly something just needs adjustment. I really dont drive the car hard and know my way around a 6 speed. The car is CPO and has 48,000 miles on it.

PLEASE ANY FEEDBACK WOULD HELP!!!



if that day you were being particular hard on the car, the clutch starts to become exhausted and can slip a little bit due to being hot/abused

give it a day or so and drive the car and see if you still experience the same problems, if you do then most likely ur clutch is shot, but at 48k it seems a little bit odd especially if the only thing performance wise was the stage 1 flash, yes it gives the car a lot more hp and tq but in general its nothing that the stock clutch, tranny, and engine can't handle. from what i understand you can go to stage 2+ before you start considering alternatives to the stock clutch + flywheel

[mr shickadance]

clutch, brakes, tires, and certain other stuff fall under the normal wear n tear and are not covered by audi's standard warranty....CPO warranty is something i know nothing about

[ferrariyellow44]

Thanks for the great feedback. Now that I think about it, that day my father drove the car to my house for me. Might I add my father was a professional Indy Car driver and likes to beat the shit out of any car he drives, including mine!

[mr shickadance]

that would do it, but by tomorrow it should be back to normal....something about the sediment in the clutch gets over heated and starts slipping thats why when you upgrade to a better clutch better materials are used like ceramics which hold heat better

i'd hide the keys if i was you....could get pricey with him behind the wheel....or just disable revo when u leave no one likes an unchipped a4

[ferrariyellow44]

Well I would like to think this is the problem, but I drove the car today, a day after he drove it, and its still slipping. :( I've had really cold temperature by me, its been like 25 degrees out...could this have anything to do with the clutch?

[makav3li]

ya once it starts slipping, it usually just gets worse and worse man. If ur really nice with it, you can possible get a couple more thousand miles on it. But that is a pretty low mileage for your clutch to go, I bet the previous owner was either pretty hard on it or they really didn't know how to drive it. Or they let 50 new drivers learn to drive a manual on it lol.

Anyways, if you are chipped, and SPECIALLY if you plan on getting a bigger turbo, I'd upgrade to atleast a stage 2 clutch and flywheel, but if your staying just stage 1 tune, your probly good to just replace with stock or a cheaper clutch. A flywheel is option but good if you plan on upgrade more internals for more hp/tq

[Grada89]

I had a similar issue but it wasn't my clutch it was my cam follower so you could check that to be sure its not.

[Tanner]

Cam follower? That doesn't make sense. If you're in gear and accelerate full throttle and the revs shoots straight up, and instead if you apply a small amount of gas and accelerate slowly but the RPMs aren't just taking off on its own, it's the clutch.

If your cam follower is busted or your HPFP, then you'll get no acceleration in the worse case scenario and the RPM isn't shooting sky high.

[shiro1745]

Well I would like to think this is the problem, but I drove the car today, a day after he drove it, and its still slipping. :( I've had really cold temperature by me, its been like 25 degrees out...could this have anything to do with the clutch?

My story: waiting at the light wanting to pull hard, reving the car up and almost took off when I see the cops on the other side. It was just a matter of a second having the rpms high and not letting the clutch go all the way. That was enough to make my clutch sleep for a week. I must say I used that clutch pretty hard after this hoping that will wear the surface down a bit. I don't know if that helped but I can tell u I have it back the way it was before.

I doubt a clutch will go bad so easy even with a chip. In three years I've owned the car and I never felt my clutch was going weak only when of course I did the stupid thing above. I think it has a lot to do with the driving style. I know a few guys that never use the first gear on their manual cars.

[Sprode]

My story: waiting at the light wanting to pull hard, reving the car up and almost took off when I see the cops on the other side. It was just a matter of a second having the rpms high and not letting the clutch go all the way. That was enough to make my clutch sleep for a week. I must say I used that clutch pretty hard after this hoping that will wear the surface down a bit. I don't know if that helped but I can tell u I have it back the way it was before.

I doubt a clutch will go bad so easy even with a chip. In three years I've owned the car and I never felt my clutch was going weak only when of course I did the stupid thing above. I think it has a lot to do with the driving style. I know a few guys that never use the first gear on their manual cars.

those people are not smart because that will cause more slipping than driving like you ought to.

[shiro1745]

those people are not smart because that will cause more slipping than driving like you ought to.

Yes I agree, that's why I said it depends a lot how you drive

[your daddy]

chipping them def lowers its life. huge torque increase. mines dead at 43k.

[2.0TURBO]

i have a 2007 A4 2.0T Manual Transmission.... Last week i went for a pass with an 3 series and my car held at 6000 RPMS, I switched gears all the way to forth but the RPMS stuck, they never went up or down, a Prius could've beat me, i lost the race which was BS because i would've smoked him any other day of the week.... could this be my clutch?? the car hasn't done this since then.

i shifted as i would normally, and i was not that hard on the throttle when going from 2nd to 3rd and then 3rd to 4th.

i have GIAC Software and an APR Carbonio intake and only 47000kms

thanks.

[joe11784]

my car did the same thing when my pcv went

[your daddy]

i have a 2007 A4 2.0T Manual Transmission.... Last week i went for a pass with an 3 series and my car held at 6000 RPMS, I switched gears all the way to forth but the RPMS stuck, they never went up or down, a Prius could've beat me, i lost the race which was BS because i would've smoked him any other day of the week.... could this be my clutch?? the car hasn't done this since then.

i shifted as i would normally, and i was not that hard on the throttle when going from 2nd to 3rd and then 3rd to 4th.

i have GIAC Software and an APR Carbonio intake and only 47000kms

thanks.
could be the clutch pedal switch.

[LampyB]

Audi/VW clutches have been known to have short lifespans. My pressure plate nearly disintegrated in my B6 A4 Stage 1+ at 44K miles. No warranty coverage on it, i was SOL. When you replace the clutch, my recommendation is to stay away from Southbend. They have a great reputable sales rep. on AZ, but about 10K miles after replacement I swear the clutch release point was so high it wasn't going to last another 10K or so miles. I sold the car at that point, but was pretty disappointed with their product.

[gyroscope]

I had the exact same issue, pulling up a long sweeping incline in 6th gear on interstate 80 in NJ. This was when my car only had 10k on it. It turned out to be the diverter or n80 valve being torn. My only mod was Revo Stage 1. If the clutch was blown you would be hearing clutch chatter while engaging it in 1st gear.

[2.0TURBO]

Thanks for all your replys .....
i actually had to change my diverter valve after this happened ... it hasnt happened since so it could be just that.

[ny2flb7a4]

I would check to see if it's the clutch pedal switch before replacing the clutch. I was having trouble shifting and it turned out to be a $40 clutch pedal switch. Does your cruise control work?

[Stea1th]

108k miles - original clutch still.

Learn to drive gents.

[Mister W]

Necro bump :what:

Sent from somewhere using smoke signals.

[p0isin]

And the point of this epic thread revival was to brag about your OEM clutch?

[Stea1th]

i don't know how the internet works.

[Charles.waite]

108k miles - original clutch still.

Learn to drive gents.

Haha.

Many people buy used (ie myself) and we inherit the problems from previous owners.

Having said that I partially agree with that sentiment. Hoever lets not create another bosnian thread, where he asks what the best rpm to shift is. that was a real smh thread....

[Stea1th]

I shift between 2-3 on average, but it greatly depends on what power is needed. Going up hills and such would require a higher RPM shift to remain in power band.

[Charles.waite]

I shift between 2-3 on average, but it greatly depends on what power is needed. Going up hills and such would require a higher RPM shift to remain in power band.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/510533-What-RPM-do-you-shift-at

Its a doozy....

I shift wherever I feel like. If I'm trying to get good mileage I shift earlier. I rarely push it above 4k only because thats the zone where I blow big clouds of oil out the tailpipe...

[Stea1th]

you should probably get the big clouds of oil thing checked out. Don't think that's normal.

[Stea1th]

In other news though, today on the way to work i got a p0303 code and the car is running crappy. phone told me it's misfire in #3.

I'm hoping it's just the coil, stopping by autozone and grabbing 1 to try and see if that's it.

[tehuberduber]

They are so cheap on rock auto >< but I do love me some autozone hope that's your issue! have you replaced them before?

[tehuberduber]

Also wait wtf is with this thread?

[Charles.waite]

you should probably get the big clouds of oil thing checked out. Don't think that's normal.

Its most certainly not, haha. Unfortunately all diagnoses for it cost monies. And I'm not willing to spend monies.

Anyway the likeliest conclusion is bad piston rings which are even more monies. This damn engine has cost me too much to keep running as it is, I can stomach a qt. of oil every few thousand miles.


In other news though, today on the way to work i got a p0303 code and the car is running crappy. phone told me it's misfire in #3.

I'm hoping it's just the coil, stopping by autozone and grabbing 1 to try and see if that's it.

Try swapping the coil to another cylinder. If the misfire follows, its a blown coil. Easy/cheap fix. New coils are $20 at any vw dealer. [up]

[bryonm]

i wouldnt go with another OEM clutch just for reliability reasons. when i say mine blew up, that bitch blew up. i was pullin out of 2nd went to shift to third and the clutch went right to the floor. after that i went to a stage 2 clutch and a new flywheel just to be safe. all in all that ran me about 1100 for the two. the car had 95k on it so i wasnt to upset about it.

[aluthman]

Haha.

Many people buy used (ie myself) and we inherit the problems from previous owners.

Having said that I partially agree with that sentiment. Hoever lets not create another bosnian thread, where he asks what the best rpm to shift is. that was a real smh thread....

I shift every 4-5 seconds to maintain that racekor sound like on the Fast and the Furious...

[Stea1th]

Try swapping the coil to another cylinder. If the misfire follows, its a blown coil. Easy/cheap fix. New coils are $20 at any vw dealer. [up]



Ended up being a coil :D I got 1 from autozone so i can drive around. I'm going to order a set and replace all 4, I've never replaced them or the sparkplugs. lol..but i was told once sparkplugs can go 100k miles and no issues. I remember on my srt I would replace them every 10k w/ ngk's. What a waste IMO.

[kissdaring]

my clutch on my 2006 A4 is on its way out too. im all stock what do you guys suggest i go for? OEM>? or are there some other better ones from experience?

[Charles.waite]

Ended up being a coil :D I got 1 from autozone so i can drive around. I'm going to order a set and replace all 4, I've never replaced them or the sparkplugs. lol..but i was told once sparkplugs can go 100k miles and no issues. I remember on my srt I would replace them every 10k w/ ngk's. What a waste IMO.

depends on what plugs you install. The factory bosch platinum plugs can go 65k before needing to be replaced. The NGK iridiums can go 45k or more. The NGK copper v-power plugs only last 6-8k though.

Again it all depends what you buy. 100k on one set of plugs is not realistic though nor would I recommend even trying that. If you don't know how many miles are on your plugs, I'd honestly replace them just to be certain you have decent plugs in there.

[alensi]

I've had a similar issue that I think could possibly be my clutch. When i am in full boost the rpms stop and drop off slightly with loss of power here's a video. It happens half way through the video. I'm thinking either a fueling issue or clutch is slipping on max boost. I've replaced the fuel filter and checked my plugs. Have not checked the cam follower has 82k miles.

http://youtu.be/gLNGQinN4C0

[cfiore34]

I've had a similar issue that I think could possibly be my clutch. When i am in full boost the rpms stop and drop off slightly with loss of power here's a video. It happens half way through the video. I'm thinking either a fueling issue or clutch is slipping on max boost. I've replaced the fuel filter and checked my plugs. Have not checked the cam follower has 82k miles.

http://youtu.be/gLNGQinN4C0

Having the same issue as you.. ever figure out what it was exactly?

[Axis]

If the clutch would start slipping, your rpm would go up at once without the speed increasing. Either slip or glazed clutch disc.

[pimpbot]

Hey, so my 2007 MT6 Avant 2.0t clutch seems to be slipping. It's weird, I've had the car for two months, and can't get a feel for the goofy thing. I'm having a bear of a time getting a feel for double clutching and heel-toe. It's like an awkward dance, this car. I'm used to tossing manual trans cars around, and this is just being difficult.

I had no issues getting used to my B5 or B6 1.8t MT5 cars. I feel like the clutch on my B7 Avant isn't releasing or engaging all the way, although it goes into gear easily when stopped or moving. I had a pressure plate fail on me once on my B5, and I know what that stiffness feels like.

Anyway, it seems when I get frisky and spirited on the road, and maybe I don't engage the clutch all the way, it slips after it gets hot. It feels as if it is close to the big failed always slipping mode. Bummer, since I've only owned this car for 2k miles and 2 months.

I'm planning to chip the car, and not much else for mods.... maybe slightly upgraded turbo if that goes out on me.

So my question is this: What is a good daily driver easy clutch that is a step up from stock? I don't want racerboy heavy pedal, and I'd like to keep my dual mass flywheel. I'd like my girlfriend to be able to drive it. My B5 had a lightened single mass flywheel and more racey clutch plate, and it just added a lot of harshness.