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noorcali
11-26-2010, 05:30 PM
I got a 1997 a4 2.8L 5spd.
I was wondering what would be the best mods for it.
I'm running 17 inch s4 avus rims.[wrench]
Any ideas?

coolgraymemo
11-26-2010, 05:54 PM
exhaust.
coilovers.

noorcali
11-26-2010, 05:57 PM
thanks man.
should i lower it?

AudiSport12
11-26-2010, 05:58 PM
That's what coilovers do, so yes.

noorcali
11-26-2010, 06:01 PM
forsure.
i wanna mess with the headlights.
maybe some xenon headlights.

coolgraymemo
11-26-2010, 06:03 PM
one piece headlights with CC mod.
facelift tailights.

noorcali
11-26-2010, 06:16 PM
aright forsure bro.
what you running on your a4?

Polski
11-26-2010, 06:40 PM
ebay intake, for sound mainly..wont add any performance

Lazer Viking
11-26-2010, 07:05 PM
why would you want to modify an a4... just buy an s4

noorcali
11-26-2010, 07:07 PM
ya, i mihgt do that.
how much was your exhaust?
still running 190 horses?

noorcali
11-26-2010, 07:09 PM
why would you want to modify an a4... just buy an s4

s4's are exactly cheap.

noorcali
11-26-2010, 07:10 PM
s4's are exactly cheap.

*s4's aren't exactly cheap.

Lazer Viking
11-26-2010, 07:33 PM
sarcasm dude

Ldiaz12
11-26-2010, 07:35 PM
I have a 2.8... A 97 2.8 you can't do much with performance, if speed is your goal sell it, or if you just don't care go all looks like I did. Full facelift, lowered.. etc.
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/Ldiaz12/AudiNorthHamptonGTG-1.jpg
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/Ldiaz12/AZfallGTGandcruise3.jpg
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/ae163/Ldiaz12/audi3.jpg

guy022077
11-26-2010, 07:36 PM
why would you want to modify an a4... just buy an s4

why modify an s4 just buy a 5.2 R8

noorcali
11-26-2010, 07:44 PM
haha ya, dude your a4 is sweet.
im not going for speed.
a4's aren't that slow, almost 200 horses.
imma try to make it loud and make it look clean.
im going for sound and style.

Ldiaz12
11-26-2010, 07:49 PM
I drove my buddies M3 and then afterwards hopped into my car and for some reason I was pissed that It wasn't as fast haha... it will get to you after a while especially when you start seeing all the the build threads here, or when you go on cruises and everyone is passing you [>_<]

noorcali
11-26-2010, 08:10 PM
Well it depends.
do you have it 5spd?
plus you could put a turbo, supercharge it, turbo charge it, all that good stuff.
any mods?

Ldiaz12
11-26-2010, 08:15 PM
yes 5 speed, there is no SC for the 12v, if you were to go turbo it would be expensive especially how nothing is made for the 12v..

noorcali
11-26-2010, 09:06 PM
ya, i guess.
just sell it and get a s4.
that car is worth a pretty penny.

Corrado_Guy
11-27-2010, 10:52 AM
ya, i guess.
just sell it and get a s4.
that car is worth a pretty penny.

Why is there a fascination with the S4, it is a great package and all but you can do as much with an A4 and still have cheap insurance and better handling. When I was looking at an Audi I really liked the looks of the B5 so it was either a 2.8 which has little upgrades, an S4 which goes but have issues and very expensive to upgrade or repair, or the 1.8T which has huge potential from the tuning that has been done on it and you still have a small motor for better handling. I ended up with a A4 that puts more power to the ground than an S4 puts to the crank with bolt-ons and a turbo, still has cheap insurance, is very nimble. My car is running a FMIC so it has an S4 bumper (and side skirts because it looks odd with just the front bumper) and unless you really know the model you can't tell it is not an S4 other than the exhaust note.

You should really do your research beforehand and look at what you ultimately want and then put your cash down. In the end the 2.8 12V or 30V are very limited with upgrades and those that make power cost a lot whereas the 1.8T has a huge amount of upgrades that can go from mild to wild. The 2.7TT has a lot of potential but a lot of people have had issues with these motors and they are not known for reliability in all cases.

For the 1997 2.8 your only options are a CAI and exhaust and you pretty much have to be happy with that because there is nothing else. If you drive really aggressively then there are a lot of options for suspension and brakes so you will never have a problem here. There are a lot of body kits you can buy for this car or you can use the S4 body parts and keep it looking factory but there is little for performance.

BlackLock_A4
11-27-2010, 11:16 AM
For starters, you can buy my facelift A4 grille!! (signature)
PM me if interested.

noorcali
11-27-2010, 11:55 AM
Why is there a fascination with the S4, it is a great package and all but you can do as much with an A4 and still have cheap insurance and better handling. When I was looking at an Audi I really liked the looks of the B5 so it was either a 2.8 which has little upgrades, an S4 which goes but have issues and very expensive to upgrade or repair, or the 1.8T which has huge potential from the tuning that has been done on it and you still have a small motor for better handling. I ended up with a A4 that puts more power to the ground than an S4 puts to the crank with bolt-ons and a turbo, still has cheap insurance, is very nimble. My car is running a FMIC so it has an S4 bumper (and side skirts because it looks odd with just the front bumper) and unless you really know the model you can't tell it is not an S4 other than the exhaust note.

You should really do your research beforehand and look at what you ultimately want and then put your cash down. In the end the 2.8 12V or 30V are very limited with upgrades and those that make power cost a lot whereas the 1.8T has a huge amount of upgrades that can go from mild to wild. The 2.7TT has a lot of potential but a lot of people have had issues with these motors and they are not known for reliability in all cases.

For the 1997 2.8 your only options are a CAI and exhaust and you pretty much have to be happy with that because there is nothing else. If you drive really aggressively then there are a lot of options for suspension and brakes so you will never have a problem here. There are a lot of body kits you can buy for this car or you can use the S4 body parts and keep it looking factory but there is little for performance.

ya true, but i got a 2.8 because it was a deal.
I would of got a 1.8 cus of the turbo but i had no chance of getting one.
I have s4 rims, 6 spoke, and it lloks like an s4.
i just want it to perform like one.

FNK
11-27-2010, 12:23 PM
Same here, 2.8 30V,
Not much to do.
I have front S4 bumper, S4 Avus wheel and side skirt coming.
Lowering spring ready to install and looking for a set of Bilstein Sport shock.

More than this, I might change the exhaust for a more throaty sound.
Since It's a student car, It will stay this way and get me to 400 000km!

But If Iswap a new motor in, it would be a V6 3.0 TDi. 50~75% the current fuel consumption and 400 lbs-pi of twisting power! (That's in 3 years IF I do it)

J Ozzie
11-27-2010, 12:25 PM
That's what coilovers do, so yes.

hahahahah BING!


I want those yellow lenses!

Do things that are unique. Do the trim in your car, change things up lower it, exhaust, the basic fast and the furious goodies.

noorcali
11-27-2010, 12:31 PM
Same here, 2.8 30V,
Not much to do.
I have front S4 bumper, S4 Avus wheel and side skirt coming.
Lowering spring ready to install and looking for a set of Bilstein Sport shock.

More than this, I might change the exhaust for a more throaty sound.
Since It's a student car, It will stay this way and get me to 400 000km!

But If Iswap a new motor in, it would be a V6 3.0 TDi. 50~75% the current fuel consumption and 400 lbs-pi of twisting power! (That's in 3 years IF I do it)

ya, thats what imma do.

noorcali
11-27-2010, 12:32 PM
hahahahah BING!


I want those yellow lenses!

Do things that are unique. Do the trim in your car, change things up lower it, exhaust, the basic fast and the furious goodies.

ya, just basic ebay stuff.

J Ozzie
11-27-2010, 12:37 PM
yeah but watch out man Ebay... is crap at times man! Try not n cheap out. I can tell you tho from hearing one of my members 2.8's an exhaust on it sounds bad ass!

noorcali
11-27-2010, 04:24 PM
Ya always... Thanks for the heads up though.
From eBay, I wanna get decals, exhaust and thats it.
Know where I can get some $200-300 springs to lower my a4?

exogen
11-27-2010, 05:20 PM
Corrado_Guy's statement is true. 2.8s isnt much for modding, atleast without dumping alot of $ for little power.

I was first looking at s4's ( 2.7tt ) but after reading and doing a little research you find out they are extremely expensive to maintaince/mod. If you are trying to be cheap AND fast, you want the 1.8t. easy to work with, alot of info on it, and ALOT of mods and support. I would LOVE to get an s4, but id like to also keep my bank account open haha.

in my opinion, sell the 2.8 and get a 1.8t.

hotshot32890
11-27-2010, 05:47 PM
an a4 2.8 in my opinion is all show no go. You can lower it, chip it, exhaust, bbs wheels...but in the long run the new ford Taurus is quicker.

coolgraymemo
11-27-2010, 05:56 PM
but if you want a really reliable car, keep it.

noorcali
11-27-2010, 06:52 PM
ya, imma keep it.

.Mad Hatter.
11-27-2010, 07:12 PM
why would you want to modify an a4... just buy an s4

[>_<]

this thread hurts my head

Ldiaz12
11-27-2010, 07:30 PM
Its reliable but slow, sounds great with an exhaust but slow, looks fast but its slow. Its a Love hate relationship.

coolgraymemo
11-27-2010, 07:39 PM
I plan on buying one so that I could use it as a commuter car.

I love the '96 trunk, real leather (not leatherette like my 1.8T).

noorcali
11-27-2010, 11:39 PM
I plan on buying one so that I could use it as a commuter car.

I love the '96 trunk, real leather (not leatherette like my 1.8T).

See, that's the nice thing about having a 2.8, nicer interior.

.Mad Hatter.
11-28-2010, 05:16 AM
I disagree ;)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/2437941878_af4635fd06_o.jpg

noorcali
11-28-2010, 09:46 AM
Damn dude, your interior is nice.
any tweeks to it?

Corrado_Guy
11-28-2010, 10:10 AM
ya true, but i got a 2.8 because it was a deal.
I would of got a 1.8 cus of the turbo but i had no chance of getting one.
I have s4 rims, 6 spoke, and it lloks like an s4.
i just want it to perform like one.

The sad fact of the matter is it will never perform like an S4 or a done 1.8T if you have the 12V 2.8 unless you are going to start tuning it yourself. If you have the skills you can run stand-alone on this motor and turbo it and you can increase the power output but I don't know how durable the motor is to having high power. You can also swap out the existing motor for a 1.8T using factory parts or the 2.7TT if you really want more power. There are kits for the VW VR6 motor which can also be turbo'd so you do have a number of options to make more power. Another option is to keep the mods down on this one and hang onto it until you get more money and then sell it and buy something with better options for mods and start on this one.

noorcali
11-28-2010, 10:12 AM
it's a 2.8, ok.
its still has a 6-cylinder engine.
the things fast.
there are mods to be made.

Palmer
11-28-2010, 10:55 AM
I disagree ;)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/2437941878_af4635fd06_o.jpg

what seats are those? look sweet

coolgraymemo
11-28-2010, 11:08 AM
I disagree ;)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/2437941878_af4635fd06_o.jpg

That interior is nice.
What is it? Just stock sport cloth seats?

never seen it before.

Ldiaz12
11-28-2010, 11:18 AM
^^^ isnt that just the regular 1.8t interior? with sport steering wheel?... the trim looks nice btw

Corrado_Guy
11-28-2010, 11:31 AM
That interior is nice.
What is it? Just stock sport cloth seats?

never seen it before.

This is a Recaro interior, I am not sure if it came on the A4 or if these have been taken from another model and put into this car. These are the sports seats sold in these cars..

http://members.shaw.ca/syncrojetta1/Audi-A4-5.jpg


it's a 2.8, ok.
its still has a 6-cylinder engine.
the things fast.
there are mods to be made.

What tuning? I don't know if you have done any research or read any of the posts but there is no tuning for the V6 so unless you are starting your own company so good luck with this. You have your choice of and open element air filter for the 12V V6 and a you can add a chip or a super charger if you have the 30V V6. What other tuning is there? If you find anything please post it up because you will be the hero of this forum because of a lot of people have tried much harder than you obviously haven't and they have found nothing so unless you are going custom as I posted above you will find nothing.

malanca
11-28-2010, 01:25 PM
I agree. The 12V is not the thing to get out serious power. A VR6 built is incredibly expensive, I don't think that's an option. To build in a 1.8T....mmmm..I would not throw out a six-cilinder and put in a machine with 4cilinders.

You could swap in a 30V engine and supercharge it; of course this will cost some money. But then again, the first chipped S4 you will encounter will kick your car's @ss...

seanj130
11-28-2010, 01:35 PM
I disagree ;)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2066/2437941878_af4635fd06_o.jpg

How did you get in my garage to take a picture of my interior?

Best regards,
Sean.

Polski
11-28-2010, 01:44 PM
That is the pre-facelift sport package interior for those who have never seen it..I have the same one, I would never swap it out for anything!!

Corrado_Guy
11-28-2010, 02:09 PM
A VR6 built is incredibly expensive, I don't think that's an option. To build in a 1.8T....mmmm..I would not throw out a six-cilinder and put in a machine with 4cilinders.

The VR6 isn't really all that expensive, the kit to mount the motor is not too bad from 034 Motorsports and the VR6 is very common and can be had for cheap these days. Splice in OBD-II and go with a Kinetic turbo and you are pushing around 240 hp to the ground without an intercooler. If you are looking for performance I would throw away that 6 cylinder without a second thought because it is not made for performance and even the 30V supercharger can't hold its own to a tuned 1.8T. The 1.8T is an amazing motor and can push over 400 hp with the stock internals which is something the 12V V6 can't do with any modifications. If you go the 30V route you need a complete motor swap with electronics and then a $3,000 supercharger kit and whatever else you would need to make this work and I think you could do it much cheaper and make more power with the VR6T.

Although it hasn't been mentioned yet another swap idea is to go V8, screw all of these small displacement motors because there is no replacement for large displacement. The V8/A6/A8 cars with the V8 motors are pretty cheap now and not many people need the motors when the cars are wrecked so this is yet another option. This adds more weight to the front of the car but it will have a lot more torque and would be a lot of fun if you had a manual transmission. The auto kind of sucks the life out of the motor but it would be a blast with the manual transmission and one of these motors.

As you will note none of these options include the 12V V6 because other than going stand-alone you will find few options to increase the power of this motor. I did forget to mention the exhaust, if you are lucky you may gain a few hp with exhaust but it won't be much.

Corrado_Guy
11-28-2010, 02:11 PM
That is the pre-facelift sport package interior for those who have never seen it..I have the same one, I would never swap it out for anything!!

The sport seats in the post above are the seats that came with my 2000 A4 and they will be gone one day because they don't have the side impact air bags which means they disable the air bag system in my car. It doesn't really show in the pics but they are black and are comfy but they weren't designed for that car so they will go when I find better seats.

Polski
11-28-2010, 02:45 PM
I guess thats what happens when you swap pre-facelift seats into facelift cars.
You can sell them for a pretty good price.... terra>sport cloth>leatherette

black99.5a4
11-28-2010, 02:52 PM
Corrado Guy ** another vr6 guy who thinks swapping a vr6 into an audi is "simple and inexpensive".

search, there are threads on this and unless you care to drop 10g's, give or take, its not going to be easy.. you can budget it but you'll also be ghetto-fying it

Mad Hatters interior is stock. Audi used 3 different sport cloth interiors.. Geoffs is 97 only and very hard to find in good condition, even harder to find heated. I have a set in my car as well.

You can resister the air bag light off, if you wish to keep the lightest seats you can get for an Audi, in the car, since they are pigs already.

Look through the build section, the thread titled osmething like "I love AWD" or something to that affect by Hazensel.. mid way through he decided to throw a 12v into his avant.

mikehawk666
11-28-2010, 04:29 PM
since it's a 2.8 i'd go cosmetic. lower the shit out of it, dark tint all around, clear corners etc. but mostly slam it!

.Mad Hatter.
11-28-2010, 04:38 PM
Mad Hatters interior is stock. Audi used 3 different sport cloth interiors.. Geoffs is 97 only and very hard to find in good condition, even harder to find heated. I have a set in my car as well.


Correct, in that picture, everything you see except for the dome lights are as the car came from Germany in 1997.

noorcali
11-28-2010, 10:15 PM
ya the leather on my 2.8L is perfect. no rips whatsoever.
The only thing i dislike is the steering wheel.
it's one of the older ones, no the chrome.
i bought a sport steering wheel cover for it, so it looks nicer.