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DRock3d
11-07-2010, 11:32 AM
I'm not sure how well my clutch is doing, it's not slipping as far as I know but I'm very self-conscious of my stick driving since this is the car I learned on I have nothing to compare it to.

I've looked at the ECS RA4 kit and the Clutch Masters FX100/300 but I heard good things about this one too.

VR6:http://www.idparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=764

It's much cheaper and I don't think I'll be going much farther than a K04 and GIAC chip with supporting mods, is this the clutch for me?

I'll be using it for a lot of spirited street use and maybe a little occasional track use a couple times a year. All input is appreciated! Thanks guys.

O2VW1.8T
11-07-2010, 12:37 PM
On the link you posted it will not fit a A4.. the vr6 clutch is great i ran it for a long time in my gti. But in the description is even says (This clutch will fit all A4 or A5 Jetta TDI, A4 Golf TDI and New Beetle TDI) They should of used Mk4,MK5 not A4,A5 to not confuse people..

DRock3d
11-07-2010, 01:23 PM
Damn that's what I get for reading VWVortex. What about the brand sachs for the A4, anything to say about the brand LUK?

AudiNFS
11-07-2010, 02:40 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think the FX100 will hold a k04 build. Why not just got with the FX300 and call it a day?

Peter1.8t
11-07-2010, 02:51 PM
If i had a dollar for every time someone asks what clutch they should use........

wildbill
11-07-2010, 03:10 PM
If i had a dollar for every time someone asks what clutch they should use........

youd have a sweet car!

sean1.8t
11-07-2010, 03:50 PM
I'm not sure how well my clutch is doing, it's not slipping as far as I know but I'm very self-conscious of my stick driving since this is the car I learned on I have nothing to compare it to.



im not sure what the issue is..?

turbo kraut
11-07-2010, 04:08 PM
if you are going to upgrade just get the fx400, most like the stock feel but will hold all the way up to at least an elim kit

AudiNFS
11-07-2010, 04:52 PM
if you are going to upgrade just get the fx400, most like the stock feel but will hold all the way up to at least an elim kit

I thought the FX300 would also hold up to an elim build?

Corrado_Guy
11-07-2010, 04:56 PM
I have a South Bend SBC Stage 3 clutch + flywheel with a GT28RS turbo and this set-up is putting down about 250 to the ground at 18 PSI and no slippage. The weight of the clutch is actually very light but the engagement point is almost right at the top of the clutch pedal which kind of turns it into a switch. It traffic you have to let it slip a bit more but you don't have to fight it, you just have to learn how to work it. If you are not going to push the limits of the stock clutch then you are better of staying stock because day-to-day it is easy to use and will last longer.

Kyle H
11-07-2010, 05:03 PM
lol a sb stg 3 drives just like stock.


the fx400 6 puck I have now isn't bad at all. If you're spending the time/money to replace the clutch, go big.

Dynamite
11-07-2010, 05:07 PM
for stock 228mm A4 flywheel
FX300 is good for ~ 315 tq and holds ~ 110% over stock
FX400 is good for ~ 405 tq and holds ~ 170% over stock

for the 240mm stock s4 flywheel (Note you will need to buy an after market 240mm a4 flywheel s4 flywheels have a different stud patten)
FX300 is good for approx 525 tq. and holds ~ 110% over stock
FX400 is good for approx 675 tq. and holds ~ 170% over stock

so yes for the average elim build then a fx300 on a 228mm flywheel should be fine, some of the well built 2871 elims may be pushing it though. With the 240mm flywheel then the 300 is fine for all of the elims

AudiNFS
11-07-2010, 05:44 PM
for stock 228mm A4 flywheel
FX300 is good for ~ 315 tq and holds ~ 110% over stock
FX400 is good for ~ 405 tq and holds ~ 170% over stock

for the 240mm stock s4 flywheel (Note you will need to buy an after market 240mm a4 flywheel s4 flywheels have a different stud patten)
FX300 is good for approx 525 tq. and holds ~ 110% over stock
FX400 is good for approx 675 tq. and holds ~ 170% over stock

so yes for the average elim build then a fx300 on a 228mm flywheel should be fine, some of the well built 2871 elims may be pushing it though. With the 240mm flywheel then the 300 is fine for all of the elims

great info[up]

DRock3d
11-07-2010, 05:44 PM
If i had a dollar for every time someone asks what clutch they should use........

The only place I was able to find comprehensive information was in the clutch masters thread, if I just went with that because it had the most information my choice would have came from a biased source.

My clutch isn't slipping but has 160k on it and I learned on this car and still haven't learned the exact revs to match downshifts at so I want to know exactly what I'll have to order if it were to go out.

Should I just get the original flywheel resurfaced or leave it as is? Should I buy a new flywheel and what would be the benefits of doing that compared to sticking with the original? I would be going with a steel flywheel since I don't need the chatter and a sprung clutch disc to make engagements nice and smooth.

Dynamite
11-07-2010, 06:03 PM
Well that depends as well, at 160k then your stock duel mass flywheel might be ending its life (the rubber between the masses gets old). but then its an extra 4-500 bucks for a new flywheel, if you do go for a new one get a steel 240mm one, no point in staying with the 228 when for the same price you can get a 240. If you can deal without your car for a few days then I would make contact with the company you intend to buy the stuff off 1st then pull the clutch and FW and have a look at it, if it is still in good condsh then just have it resurfaced, otherwise if its worn out get a new 240mm FW. talk to mike at ringer racing, he has helped a lot of people from here out in the past, I think the will resurface the stock flywheel for 50 bucks as well, and his CM stock seams to be some of the cheapest around.

seanj130
11-07-2010, 06:51 PM
"Sachs VR6 clutch kit mated with a 22lb, G60 single mass flywheel"

"The kit includes 038198132H

Single Mass Flywheel (21 lbs.)"

2 different weights?

Best,
Sean.

Peter1.8t
11-07-2010, 10:33 PM
haha yes wildbill I would.

Op wsa i was trying to hint at was using the search function. All I did was type in clutch and found many threads asking somewhat of the same question.