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ttommyboyy
03-01-2005, 12:54 AM
i'm looking into the '99 a4 1.8t and the '99 2.8 which model is more reliable?

VtAudi
03-01-2005, 02:27 AM
I'd say its about even, 2.8 might be a bit more, w/ no turbo to deal w/.

A4-Vblack
03-01-2005, 07:55 AM
2.8 hands down. If you can get a 99.5 (Audi is made in half years), even better. However if you want to mod, go with the 1.8T.

jefferson88
03-01-2005, 08:17 AM
the main trouble areas are all the same ie, control arms...

A4_Andre
03-01-2005, 09:52 AM
other than normal problems such as coilpacks and MAF sensor i've been smooth sailing with my 99.5 2.8

IndieRockSteve
03-01-2005, 11:40 AM
do the 2.8's require the 60Kmi timing belt change?
whats the avg mpg compared to a chipped 1.8T?

I'm gunna vote 2.8, from what I've read/heard its the get it stock and go reliability king. If the 1.8T chipped has equal or better mpg, then that would be a good arguement for it, since I don't think theres any major issues with a properly maintained(synthetic oil @ 3-5Kmi) 1.8T that is just chipped.

bitterchild
03-01-2005, 12:03 PM
2.8 has a lesser failure rate with the timing belt tensioners...

ttommyboyy
03-01-2005, 12:29 PM
why is the 99.5 better than the 99?

organasised
03-01-2005, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by ttommyboyy
why is the 99.5 better than the 99?

dude- search!

the 99.5 was facelifted and had a fair few changes.

Also many 2.8 owners wish for a 1.8t, not met any 1.8t owners who wanted a 2.8.

1.8t= easier to tune=more fun.

organasised
03-01-2005, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by bitterchild
2.8 has a lesser failure rate with the timing belt tensioners...

as long as 1.8t timing belt and tensioner etc are changed before time then you are unlikely to have a problem with the tensioners- anyone else have views?

jones3000
03-01-2005, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by organasised

Also many 2.8 owners wish for a 1.8t, not met any 1.8t owners who wanted a 2.8.

1.8t= easier to tune=more fun.

And where did you get that from....the sky?[rolleyes] Anyone owning a 2.8 can pick up a 1.8T. . . . they're cheaper. Much cheaper if you go without leather and sport package. It's the other way around. Many 1.8T owners wish their cars were less problematic like the 2.8. I'm at 91k. My car has never been in the shop for than a day. Besides a bad serpentine belt tensioner just recently, my car has paid only 5 visits(besides oil changes and timing belt) to the dealership in my ownership.

1. Faulty guage cluster, fuel sending unit (same visit)

2. Leaking camshaft adjuster seals

3. Serpentine tensioner

4. Wheel bearing

5. Bad catalytic converter

6. turn signals went haywire.

and all of these things are not specific Audi problems, with the exception of the guage cluster.

:knock on wood:[:D]

And don't forget :
2.8 + PES G2 SC= ultimate sleeper.[drive]

ed@mtl
03-01-2005, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by jefferson88
the main trouble areas are all the same ie, control arms...

I don't even want to go that route. Damn control arms...

Hassmeister
03-01-2005, 03:29 PM
Both are great and have different purposes in mind. Just like anything... "you take care of it and it will take care of you."

Audi 138
03-01-2005, 03:37 PM
I agree with jones!!! 2.8 all the way!! You stillhave to watch the timing belt with both cars.. So why not go with a little more horse power out of the box..[:D]

A4-Vblack
03-01-2005, 07:58 PM
I have a 99.5 2.8 with 110K miles on it. I manage a large sales team spread over half the state of TX, so 30-35K miles a year. I'm big at prevenative care. Timimg belt, radiator hoses, valves, gaskets, etc. Keep a good monitor on whats going on with your engine.

Take care of you ride and it'll take care of you.

Plus I drive like there is a checkered flag at the end of each ride.............

drlandry00
03-01-2005, 08:12 PM
A4-VBLAK

Plus I drive like there is a checkered flag at the end of each ride............. [/B]


^^ HAHA dont we all....

boosteda4
03-01-2005, 09:00 PM
If ya go with the more horsepower out the box method... I'd expect you dont wanna mod much. 1.8t is more widely supported aftermarket than the 2.8... its 1.8 all the way for me.. everyone has there opinion... Im not sure on the weight, but how much more does the 2.8 weight than the 1.8t?? is the weight difference alot? Also.. I've never heard a 1.8t owner say they wish they had the 2.8 v6.. but I have heard plenty of 2.8 owners say they wish they had the 1.8t.. and Ive heard it OFTEN... just my opinion on things.. =D

VinsA4
03-02-2005, 05:59 AM
I have a 2001 2.8t, ive had it over a month now and love it. I wanted a good looking smooth riding, sporty luxury type sedan and its been great. I also really like the leather interior I never had leather and now when I sit in cloth it feels weird.
I drive alot so I think this was the better car for me.
It has good power stock and pretty decent gas mileage. I dont plan on modding since you cant get much more out of it without spending a ton.
But my next car is def. going to be a S4, I've always felt that if you want a fast car get a fast car.

BarryT82
03-02-2005, 07:30 AM
My 2001.5 1.8T is at 89043 miles right now and I haven't had any problems other than tie rod ends, a wheel bearing, and a cam seal.

brettuzzi
03-02-2005, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by A4-Vblack
2.8 hands down. If you can get a 99.5 (Audi is made in half years), even better. However if you want to mod, go with the 1.8T.

only the 1999 / 1999.5 and 2001/2001.5 were 'seperate' models, were they not? [rolleyes] [confused]

Audi 138
03-02-2005, 11:52 AM
You are deffinitely right that everyone has their own opinions... But in reality the 2.8ers that wished they had a 1.8 is probably cause they can't afford the SC. I can't afforda SC either but I would rather just wait til I can afford an S4 before going modcrazy on a 1.8. Mainly I love the looks of our b5s though cause they are pretty sexy, 1.8 or 2.8.. And they both are pretty reliablefor the most part..

Audimarc
03-02-2005, 11:56 AM
Ah.....let's see.....the CLK500??? Kidding. The 2.8 for sure. Plus, it has a better interior.

greengravy
03-02-2005, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by organasised
Also many 2.8 owners wish for a 1.8t, not met any 1.8t owners who wanted a 2.8. hello. i would like to introduce myself to you as the first 1.8t owner who would rather have a 2.8. feel free to PM or IM me. The name's gravy [:p]

jones3000
03-02-2005, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by boosteda4
. . . . .. but I have heard plenty of 2.8 owners say they wish they had the 1.8t.. and Ive heard it OFTEN...

. . . and then you woke up and realized you were dreaming. What you probably heard was they wish there were as many engine mods for the 2.8 as the 1.8T. anyone owning a 2.8 jumped over a 1.8T. The 1.8t's are cheaper and more popular than the 2.8.

GaryJ
03-03-2005, 01:35 PM
Original question - reliability is about even: both are great engines, but make sure you take care of either's routine maintenance (even a moderately modded 1.8). Each has a few "common problems" related to the specific engine but they're about the same in terms of hassle/cost to fix.

As far as the 1.8 versus 2.8 discussion, I'm lucky enough to have both: a 98.5 30V A4 (5-speed) and an 03 1.8 Passat Wagon (5-speed). While the 2.8 has been supercharged the last 2 years, the first 4 I drove it completely stock w/ the Audi sport suspension and loved every day with it.

My vote would definately be for the 2.8. Drivability is just much better. The torque curve of the 1.8T is more annoying in daily driving and the 2.8 is silky smooth, has good power, and just sounds/feels/responds much better. Now I'm 37 and don't care about off-the-line speed or 0-60's (although the 2.8 is much more predictable to launch: the 1.8, you have to spool up the turbo, then dump the clutch - it's just a more violent launch). I also make decent enough money that the differences in gas mileage don't really matter to me. Hope that helps a bit.

GaryJ

IndieRockSteve
03-03-2005, 07:05 PM
^^^^
listen to this man.