BlkBullitt
04-26-2010, 08:54 AM
The Official B5 A4 Center Console Thread
Having just completed the Facelift Center Console Swap into my Prefacelift (98.5) A4 I know many owners constantly have questions regarding the different center consoles fitted in the B5 A4 and S4, what the differences between each version is, how/if they can convert from one style to the other, and what all is involved in a conversion. While most of this information is on this forum it is scattered about and there aren't many photos illustrating the differences and the process involved. Hopefully this thread will serve both of those purposes as it is developed.
If you would like to add to this please PM me or send me an email [email protected] and after reviewing the information I will add it to this post. Currently I'm looking for a good detailed write up (with photos) of the wiring for the Facelift Fog Light Buttons as well as some nice photos of a Partial Facelift Climate Control and in car photos of a Partial Facelift and Prefacelift Center Console.
Also, a special thanks to Chris at Force5 (www.force5auto.com) for all of the Facelift center console items!
I. Center Console Types
There are (to my knowledge) 3 unique center consoles that Audi offered in the B5 A4 throughout its production (in the US).
1. Prefacelift
Found in: A4s from 1996 to sometime in late 1998 / early 1999 (I'm not sure when this style ended)
Radio: Single DIN (either Concert I or Delta Headunits)
Climate Control: Non-integrated rectangle automatic climate control unit. Double LCD screens. Buttons - Auto, Recirculate, Temperature +/-, Fan Speed +/-, Front Defrost, A/C on/off, Upper Vents, Center Vents, and Lower Vents. This unit is non-integrated meaning it does not cover the entire width of the console space and is surrounded by a trim piece.
Trim: The radio, climate control, and other buttons are surrounded by a single piece of trim made of wood or plastic.
Other: Across the top of the console there is a long row of rectangular buttons across the top as well for heated seats, front fog lights, rear fog lights, hazard lights, and rear window defrost (and also others options outside the US). Depending on what options were equipped there could also be a small storage bin on the passenger side instead of buttons. The ashtray was integrated into the front console piece and shared it's location with the cigarette lighter. On the rear piece there is a set of dual pop-up cup holders and a small storage bin with the telephone connector if equipped (from what I understand extremely late 1998 cars may have the dual cup holder insert found in later consoles in place of the storage bin / telephone area). The emergency brake trim was plastic.
2. Partial Facelift
Found in: A4s from sometime in 1999 to sometime in 1999. I'm not certain on when this console started appearing (I have a 1998.5 and I didn't have this style) and hopefully, with input from owners, will be able to provide a better idea of when this console first appeared and disappeared.
Radio: Single DIN radio slot (Concert I Headunit)
Climate Control: Non-integrated facelift style rectangle automatic climate control unit. Single LCD screen. Buttons - Auto, Recirculate, Off, Temperature +/-, Fan Speed +/-, Front Defrost, Econ, Rear Defrost, Upper Vents, Center Vents, and Lower Vents. Heated seat dials were also included (if car was equipped with heated seats. This unit is non-integrated meaning it does not cover the entire width of the console space and is surrounded by a trim piece.
Trim: There are three trim pieces. One that covers the upper portion of the console (hazard switch, fog buttons, and dash pop-out cup holder), one that surrounds the radio and climate control, and one that surrounds the shifter.
Other: Across the top of the console there is a row of three buttons (front fog lights, rear fog lights, and either a blank button or ESP button), the hazard switch (triangle shaped - different than the prefacelift in both appearance and in the electrical connection used), and a pop-out dash cup holder. The ashtray is no longer integrated into the front console piece and is the full width of the center console. On the rear piece there is a pop-up cigarette lighter, a small storage bin, and a set of dual cup holders. The telephone connector (if equipped) should be located in the arm rest lid hinge. The emergency brake trim should be leather wrapped.
3. Facelift
Found in: A4s and S4s from 2000 to 2002 (some late 2001 S4s in the US were classified as 2002s).
Radio: Double DIN radio slot (Symphony I Headunit)
Climate Control: Integrated automatic climate control unit. Single LCD screen. Buttons - Auto, Recirculate, Off, Temperature +/-, Fan Speed +/-, Front Defrost, Econ, Rear Defrost, Upper Vents, Center Vents, and Lower Vents. Heated seat dials were also included (if car was equipped with heated seats. This unit is integrated meaning it covers the entire width of the console space and is not surrounded by a trim piece.
Trim: There are two trim pieces. One that covers the upper portion of the console (hazard switch, fog buttons, and dash pop-out cup holder) and one that surrounds the shifter.
Other: Across the top of the console there is a row of three buttons (front fog lights, rear fog lights, and either a blank button or ESP button), the hazard switch (triangle shaped - different than the prefacelift in both appearance and in the electrical connection used), and a pop-out dash cup holder. The ashtray is not integrated into the front console piece and is the full width of the center console. On the rear piece there is a pop-up cigarette lighter, a small storage bin, and a set of dual cup holders. The telephone connector (if equipped) is located in the arm rest lid hinge. The emergency brake trim is leather wrapped.
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Complete-1.jpg
Visual Guides
Center Console Front Plastic Piece:
Facelift on left, Partial Facelift in middle, Prefacelift on right (notice the differences in mounting hole locations and the lower ash tray areas)...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-8.jpg
Center Console Cage & Radio Cage:
Prefacelift Center Console / Radio Cage...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-3.jpg
Partial Facelift Center Console / Radio Cage...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-9.jpg
Facelift Center Console Cage...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-2.jpg
Facelift Radio Cage...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-4.jpg
Center Console Rear Plastic Piece:
Prefacelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-11.jpg
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-12.jpg
Facelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-13.jpg
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-14.jpg
Facelift on left, Prefacelift on right (notice the difference in how the rear pieces connect to the front pieces)...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-7.jpg
Facelift in front, Prefacelift in rear (notice raised front section on the Facelift piece)...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-6.jpg
Climate Control:
Prefacelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-19.jpg
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-16.jpg
Facelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-10.jpg
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-15.jpg
eBrake Handle Trim:
Prefacelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-1.jpg
Facelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-5.jpg
Will the Facelift Lower Cupholders fit in the Prefacelift Rear Center Console Piece in place of the Storage Bin and the Telephone Jack?
Yes...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-17.jpg
Will the Facelift Cigarette Lighter fit in the Prefacelift Rear Center Console Piece in place of the Pop-Up Cup Holders?
No...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-18.jpg
Part Numbers
Updated as often as possible.
Pre Facelift:
8D0 820 043 - Automatic Climate Control (m.y. 1996)
8L0 820 043 A to C - Automatic Climate Control (m.y. 1997) *if installed on newer vehicles LCD brightness cannot be changed
8L0 820 043 D - Automatic Climate Control (m.y. 1998) *if installed on older vehicles LCD brightness cannot be changed
Partial Facelift:
Facelift:
8D0 862 534 A - Facelift Dash Pop-Out Cup Holder
Having just completed the Facelift Center Console Swap into my Prefacelift (98.5) A4 I know many owners constantly have questions regarding the different center consoles fitted in the B5 A4 and S4, what the differences between each version is, how/if they can convert from one style to the other, and what all is involved in a conversion. While most of this information is on this forum it is scattered about and there aren't many photos illustrating the differences and the process involved. Hopefully this thread will serve both of those purposes as it is developed.
If you would like to add to this please PM me or send me an email [email protected] and after reviewing the information I will add it to this post. Currently I'm looking for a good detailed write up (with photos) of the wiring for the Facelift Fog Light Buttons as well as some nice photos of a Partial Facelift Climate Control and in car photos of a Partial Facelift and Prefacelift Center Console.
Also, a special thanks to Chris at Force5 (www.force5auto.com) for all of the Facelift center console items!
I. Center Console Types
There are (to my knowledge) 3 unique center consoles that Audi offered in the B5 A4 throughout its production (in the US).
1. Prefacelift
Found in: A4s from 1996 to sometime in late 1998 / early 1999 (I'm not sure when this style ended)
Radio: Single DIN (either Concert I or Delta Headunits)
Climate Control: Non-integrated rectangle automatic climate control unit. Double LCD screens. Buttons - Auto, Recirculate, Temperature +/-, Fan Speed +/-, Front Defrost, A/C on/off, Upper Vents, Center Vents, and Lower Vents. This unit is non-integrated meaning it does not cover the entire width of the console space and is surrounded by a trim piece.
Trim: The radio, climate control, and other buttons are surrounded by a single piece of trim made of wood or plastic.
Other: Across the top of the console there is a long row of rectangular buttons across the top as well for heated seats, front fog lights, rear fog lights, hazard lights, and rear window defrost (and also others options outside the US). Depending on what options were equipped there could also be a small storage bin on the passenger side instead of buttons. The ashtray was integrated into the front console piece and shared it's location with the cigarette lighter. On the rear piece there is a set of dual pop-up cup holders and a small storage bin with the telephone connector if equipped (from what I understand extremely late 1998 cars may have the dual cup holder insert found in later consoles in place of the storage bin / telephone area). The emergency brake trim was plastic.
2. Partial Facelift
Found in: A4s from sometime in 1999 to sometime in 1999. I'm not certain on when this console started appearing (I have a 1998.5 and I didn't have this style) and hopefully, with input from owners, will be able to provide a better idea of when this console first appeared and disappeared.
Radio: Single DIN radio slot (Concert I Headunit)
Climate Control: Non-integrated facelift style rectangle automatic climate control unit. Single LCD screen. Buttons - Auto, Recirculate, Off, Temperature +/-, Fan Speed +/-, Front Defrost, Econ, Rear Defrost, Upper Vents, Center Vents, and Lower Vents. Heated seat dials were also included (if car was equipped with heated seats. This unit is non-integrated meaning it does not cover the entire width of the console space and is surrounded by a trim piece.
Trim: There are three trim pieces. One that covers the upper portion of the console (hazard switch, fog buttons, and dash pop-out cup holder), one that surrounds the radio and climate control, and one that surrounds the shifter.
Other: Across the top of the console there is a row of three buttons (front fog lights, rear fog lights, and either a blank button or ESP button), the hazard switch (triangle shaped - different than the prefacelift in both appearance and in the electrical connection used), and a pop-out dash cup holder. The ashtray is no longer integrated into the front console piece and is the full width of the center console. On the rear piece there is a pop-up cigarette lighter, a small storage bin, and a set of dual cup holders. The telephone connector (if equipped) should be located in the arm rest lid hinge. The emergency brake trim should be leather wrapped.
3. Facelift
Found in: A4s and S4s from 2000 to 2002 (some late 2001 S4s in the US were classified as 2002s).
Radio: Double DIN radio slot (Symphony I Headunit)
Climate Control: Integrated automatic climate control unit. Single LCD screen. Buttons - Auto, Recirculate, Off, Temperature +/-, Fan Speed +/-, Front Defrost, Econ, Rear Defrost, Upper Vents, Center Vents, and Lower Vents. Heated seat dials were also included (if car was equipped with heated seats. This unit is integrated meaning it covers the entire width of the console space and is not surrounded by a trim piece.
Trim: There are two trim pieces. One that covers the upper portion of the console (hazard switch, fog buttons, and dash pop-out cup holder) and one that surrounds the shifter.
Other: Across the top of the console there is a row of three buttons (front fog lights, rear fog lights, and either a blank button or ESP button), the hazard switch (triangle shaped - different than the prefacelift in both appearance and in the electrical connection used), and a pop-out dash cup holder. The ashtray is not integrated into the front console piece and is the full width of the center console. On the rear piece there is a pop-up cigarette lighter, a small storage bin, and a set of dual cup holders. The telephone connector (if equipped) is located in the arm rest lid hinge. The emergency brake trim is leather wrapped.
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Complete-1.jpg
Visual Guides
Center Console Front Plastic Piece:
Facelift on left, Partial Facelift in middle, Prefacelift on right (notice the differences in mounting hole locations and the lower ash tray areas)...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-8.jpg
Center Console Cage & Radio Cage:
Prefacelift Center Console / Radio Cage...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-3.jpg
Partial Facelift Center Console / Radio Cage...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-9.jpg
Facelift Center Console Cage...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-2.jpg
Facelift Radio Cage...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-4.jpg
Center Console Rear Plastic Piece:
Prefacelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-11.jpg
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-12.jpg
Facelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-13.jpg
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-14.jpg
Facelift on left, Prefacelift on right (notice the difference in how the rear pieces connect to the front pieces)...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-7.jpg
Facelift in front, Prefacelift in rear (notice raised front section on the Facelift piece)...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-6.jpg
Climate Control:
Prefacelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-19.jpg
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-16.jpg
Facelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-10.jpg
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-15.jpg
eBrake Handle Trim:
Prefacelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-1.jpg
Facelift...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-5.jpg
Will the Facelift Lower Cupholders fit in the Prefacelift Rear Center Console Piece in place of the Storage Bin and the Telephone Jack?
Yes...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-17.jpg
Will the Facelift Cigarette Lighter fit in the Prefacelift Rear Center Console Piece in place of the Pop-Up Cup Holders?
No...
http://buckeyestangs.com/drew/tech/audi/CC/A4-CCSwap-Differences-18.jpg
Part Numbers
Updated as often as possible.
Pre Facelift:
8D0 820 043 - Automatic Climate Control (m.y. 1996)
8L0 820 043 A to C - Automatic Climate Control (m.y. 1997) *if installed on newer vehicles LCD brightness cannot be changed
8L0 820 043 D - Automatic Climate Control (m.y. 1998) *if installed on older vehicles LCD brightness cannot be changed
Partial Facelift:
Facelift:
8D0 862 534 A - Facelift Dash Pop-Out Cup Holder