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FNK
06-06-2010, 12:57 PM
I want to reduce the understeer biaised of my Quattro.

Replacing the small 12,5mm rear sway bar with an aftermarket 19mm seems like the right path for an "Oversteer" and more fun car.

Anyone done the rear swap?

Kronic Budz
06-06-2010, 01:03 PM
i would think it would help dramatically. Especially with the extra weight of the 2.8 in the front and quattro...

sixfiveoh
06-06-2010, 01:06 PM
Plenty of people have done it, and plenty of people claim their upgraded sways gave better results than upgraded suspension.

FNK
06-06-2010, 01:35 PM
I'm wondering about doing both. A stronger in front will transfert more to the rear.
So it's going with a package deal or the rear alone.
Neuspeed seems great while costly.
H&R no longer do rear swaybar.
Hotchkiss seems great too.

sixfiveoh
06-06-2010, 05:12 PM
If you're trying to correct understeer, for the sake of saving money, I'd look into just a rear sway first. I have a Neuspeed adjustable on my rear and I noticed it corrected a good amount of understeer.

jm121189
06-07-2010, 10:09 AM
It helps and you will notice a difference. MAKE SURE YOU BUY ONE WITH REINFORCEMENT BRACKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bought the H&R w/o brackets and my subframe cracked and H&R did not take responsibility.

flynnr
06-07-2010, 10:27 AM
It helps and you will notice a difference. MAKE SURE YOU BUY ONE WITH REINFORCEMENT BRACKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bought the H&R w/o brackets and my subframe cracked and H&R did not take responsibility.

which is why they no longer sell them :)

I have front and rear neuspeed. love it.

geeky
06-07-2010, 01:21 PM
does anyone know what the difference between the rear S4 and A4 sway bars are? Whats the S4 rear sway size?

Kronic Budz
06-07-2010, 02:08 PM
^^^

i bet the rear s4 sway is probably around 16mm. a4 sport is 14mm i believe and then stock being 12 or 12.5mm. someone please correct me if im wrong.

geeky
06-07-2010, 02:27 PM
I've read 18mm somewhere for the S4 and definitely doubt that. 16mm sounds right. I have the A4 w/o sport suspension package so that flimsy 12.5mm, if I went up toe the s4, do I need to get a subframe reinforcement?

sorry for the thread jack.

Thi
06-07-2010, 02:32 PM
I've read 18mm somewhere for the S4 and definitely doubt that. 16mm sounds right. I have the A4 w/o sport suspension package so that flimsy 12.5mm, if I went up toe the s4, do I need to get a subframe reinforcement?

sorry for the thread jack.

Its ok to jack, I'd like to know as well.

biketsai
06-07-2010, 05:02 PM
A4 sport and S4 are the same at 17mm.

Definitely get a new rear sway bar! With my car setup the way it is now, I never have issues with understeer but I actually have to deal with oversteer more.

Seerlah
06-07-2010, 05:10 PM
I have a Neuspeed rear sway bar, and want to eventually ditch it for the complete Hotchkis set.

FNK
06-07-2010, 05:43 PM
It helps and you will notice a difference. MAKE SURE YOU BUY ONE WITH REINFORCEMENT BRACKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bought the H&R w/o brackets and my subframe cracked and H&R did not take responsibility.

I've heard of front subframe cracked, but not the rear!

Now, where to buy a set of Hotchkiss or Neuspeed cheap in Canada? Except seller such as ECSTuning and others in the Us, Canada seems poor on performance reseller...

Kronic Budz
06-07-2010, 06:57 PM
^^^

17 mm for both a4 and a4 sport? damn us non sport guys are really missin out.

Thi
06-07-2010, 07:34 PM
Let me know if anyone has a 17mm a4 sport or s4 for sale.

biketsai
06-08-2010, 02:42 AM
I have a 17mm off of my A4 sport if you are interested. PM me.

15mm=A4 stock
17mm=A4sport/S4

Mawhitey
06-08-2010, 07:52 AM
A4 TQS (sport) /S4/RS4 is 15mm in the UK
the 17mm is the GMBH Factory add on which very few cars got
The fronts are the same across the board Sport/S4/RS4 recognisable by the green blob of paint in the middle of it

FNK
06-08-2010, 09:37 AM
Well I already have the A4 sport, so 17mm **> 19mm almost pointless... will measure it tonight.

SpoolinPelican
06-08-2010, 10:04 AM
Well I already have the A4 sport, so 17mm **> 19mm almost pointless... will measure it tonight.

Its not pointless...I went from the sport 17mm to Neuspeed 19mm...definatly noticed a difference.....well I guess t could be pointless if you were gonna go with the hotchkis bars.

Kronic Budz
06-08-2010, 01:51 PM
I have a 17mm off of my A4 sport if you are interested. PM me.

15mm=A4 stock
17mm=A4sport/S4


i watched my mechanic measure my rear bar. 12 or 12.5 mm

97 a4 2.8 non sport...

FNK
06-08-2010, 07:30 PM
What a surprise! I do not have the Sport package after all...
Damn this small 12,5mm rear sway bar!

I have to go the complete Hotchkiss way now knowing this!

I am still looking for a Canadian seller...

VMRWheels
06-09-2010, 02:55 PM
A rear sway would definitely make a difference in the way your car handles!

somebody5788
06-09-2010, 07:18 PM
Rear sway would be awesome. Front sway's make the car feel a little too tight for a daily to be honest lol. I drove a Stage 2 S4 with front and rear sway neuspeed. It was a little overbored. Didn't get to see how it handled.

Mawhitey
06-10-2010, 04:45 AM
the 17mm bar is an option not part of the sport package

Mike@PureMS
06-10-2010, 08:48 AM
Stock non-sport bar is 12.5mm
Stock sport bar and S4 is 15mm

The Hotchkis front/rear set is the way to go on a daily driver. It reduces body roll tremendously AND helps reduce understeer.
We've got some in stock!

Hotchkis A4/S4Q Sway Bar Kit (http://www.purems.com/products/product.php/II=587)

Shhmaudi
06-10-2010, 12:26 PM
I have a 17mm off of my A4 sport if you are interested. PM me.

15mm=A4 stock
17mm=A4sport/S4

Bikestai Did you notice a huge difference when you upgraded your rear sway from your stock 17mm? You have KW sways on now??

Shhmaudi
06-10-2010, 12:31 PM
i watched my mechanic measure my rear bar. 12 or 12.5 mm

97 a4 2.8 non sport...

Bummer... So let me get this straight:
non sport =12
sport= 16? 17??
upgraded=18? 19??
thanks for the clarification

geeky
06-10-2010, 01:20 PM
I just picked up a sport rear sway bar at a junkyard for $20 bucks with all bushings and bolts. I just want to clarify, and make sure that I do NOT need to get subframe reinforcements for the stock SPORT rear sway bar from the non-sport, right?

Shhmaudi
06-10-2010, 01:38 PM
I just picked up a sport rear sway bar at a junkyard for $20 bucks with all bushings and bolts. I just want to clarify, and make sure that I do NOT need to get subframe reinforcements for the stock SPORT rear sway bar from the non-sport, right?

post back when you hit the twisties, and how the performance factor works with the upgraded sport rear sway!

bob12312357
06-10-2010, 02:10 PM
post back when you hit the twisties, and how the performance factor works with the upgraded sport rear sway!
The stock sport rear sway is a joke also. He won't be feeling much.

audia42k1.8tq
06-10-2010, 04:38 PM
What is the difference betwen the stock front sway bar and the sport sway bar?

geeky
06-10-2010, 05:27 PM
The stock sport rear sway is a joke also. He won't be feeling much.

It may still be a joke, but its better than my 12.5m current non-sport sway bar and for $20 bucks, why not.

biketsai
06-10-2010, 05:55 PM
I noticed a HUGE difference with my sway bars. I am running a 25mm in the rear which is super duber oversized

geeky
06-10-2010, 06:23 PM
25mm? Holy crap O.O

whats our front sway bar sizes?

Shhmaudi
06-10-2010, 06:35 PM
I noticed a HUGE difference with my sway bars. I am running a 25mm in the rear which is super duber oversized

How did you get 25mm to fit up? post pics! custom?? im interested!

1NaudiA4
06-10-2010, 09:07 PM
Hotchkis also has a 22mm rear sway bar

Kronic Budz
06-11-2010, 01:08 AM
why exactly does audi put such a large front sway compared to the rear?

bob12312357
06-11-2010, 04:50 AM
why exactly does audi put such a large front sway compared to the rear?
Same reason every other family sedan uses really stiff front sways. To bias the car 2 understeer and keep joe blow safe. Despite what the majority on here say oversteer especially lift-off oversteer is not desirable for a family mover that is a DD.

prodrive
06-11-2010, 05:15 AM
I am also in between neuspeed and hotchkis. I have a H&R street coilover set-up.