Prepurchase of new S4, Simoniz question>

[JGreen76]

I am not sure from a detailing aspect if the simonize paint protection is a good option. I live in florida and relax on the weekend my cleaning my car and enjoying a cold one.

Anyways, is this option valuable to me? I had it applied on my A4 3 years ago.... don't know if it ever helped. Maybe if Billy Mays came over to fry an egg on my hood I would appriciate it.

I told my fiance to opt out of the treatment for her 2009 TT and I still have the stinking waterspots in the clear even after clay bar wax and seal.

Please help me on my simonize question!

Also a better direction on getting the waterspots out of the TT's clear.


Thanks in advance.

[kickr]

I am not sure from a detailing aspect if the simonize paint protection is a good option. I live in florida and relax on the weekend my cleaning my car and enjoying a cold one.

Anyways, is this option valuable to me? I had it applied on my A4 3 years ago.... don't know if it ever helped. Maybe if Billy Mays came over to fry an egg on my hood I would appriciate it.

I told my fiance to opt out of the treatment for her 2009 TT and I still have the stinking waterspots in the clear even after clay bar wax and seal.

Please help me on my simonize question!

Also a better direction on getting the waterspots out of the TT's clear.


Thanks in advance.

Claybar only strips old wax and removes paint contamination that accumulated over time. Wax and seal only protect the paint and make it more shiny. So you are missing the step where you are actually working with the clear coat (paint). A polishing step might do away with the water spots.

As for the simonizing question - someone else will have to answer that. But you really should not have any problems with water spots when the washing process is done right. If your water is too hard, use ONR to make it softer and don't wash the car when exposed to the sun. Also, use water from the tab with the 2 bucket method. If your cars get sprayed with hard water from say sprinklers over which you have no control, then its all about the proper paint protection and even possibly buying a cover for the car.

[JGreen76]

As for the simonizing question - someone else will have to answer that. But you really should not have any problems with water spots when the washing process is done right. If your water is too hard, use ONR to make it softer and don't wash the car when exposed to the sun. Also, use water from the tab with the 2 bucket method. If your cars get sprayed with hard water from say sprinklers over which you have no control, then its all about the proper paint protection and even possibly buying a cover for the car.

The water spot are imbedded into the clear from Audi. I have no troubles washing a car. My problem is getting the watermarks out of the paint from when it was sitting at the dealership for months.
I will try to polish them out.. do you suggest any products. I do not have an orbital, so this will be done by hand.

[snowbird]

it'll be a challenge to polish out bad water spots by hand. A good paint cleaner will help with what can be removed chemically (ie not by physically polishing the surface, just removing contamination). I find Klasse All In One is good at removing paint contamination. I love the glossy results from Zymol Paint Cleanser, but it's not as tough at removing surface contamination.

Follow the paint cleaner with a sealant/wax.

Ideally, you should machine polish the surface to actually remove the spots, then keep it well sealed with sealant/wax to prevent them from reoccurring.

[kickr]

The water spot are imbedded into the clear from Audi. I have no troubles washing a car. My problem is getting the watermarks out of the paint from when it was sitting at the dealership for months.
I will try to polish them out.. do you suggest any products. I do not have an orbital, so this will be done by hand.

It is really hard to tell without actually seeing what you are up against. Not having a machine does not make things easier unfortunately. If you want to give it a go you could apply 1Z einszett extra swirl remover or 1Z paint polish by hand and see where it takes you. Try a smaller test area first and go from there. If that renders no results whatsoever, you might need the help of a machine. I live in Manatee County and have a orbital flex so we could then try and see if that's a game changer if you are in the area sometime.

[JGreen76]

I will give it a shot over the weekend.

I used klasse all in one and their sealant when i first bought the car.... Thats how i first noticed the watermarks deeper than surface.

[TOGWT]

Removing ‘Water spots’

Progressively using the least abrasive product first-

1. Use a paint surface cleaner (Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner or Duragloss 501)
2. Try to dissolve the alkaline-based, surface/etched mineral water deposits try one or more of the following;

a) Use a 2:1 or stronger solution of distilled water/distilled white vinegar (Acetic acid)
b) Try a 2:1 solution of distilled water/Isopropyl Alcohol (adjust ratio as required)
c) Or equal parts distilled water/distilled white vinegar/Isopropyl alcohol.

3. Clean the effected surface with Klasse All-In-One or Zaino Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner
4. Use detailing clay to remove any `hard' surface granules
5. Use a machine polish (Optimum Polish, Optimum Compound) and a cutting (LC White, Orange or Yellow) foam pad (speed # 4- 5.0) to level the paint surface
6. For Ceramiclear or other hard clear coats substitute Menzerna for machine polish; Super Intensive Polish / Nano Polish (105FF) or Final Finish Polish (106FA)
7. Use the least aggressive polish/foam pad first, if this doesn’t remove the problem step-up to a more aggressive polish / foam pad set-up
8. Menzerna Power Finish (PO203S) - (M) this is a one-step scratch remover polish is formulated for CeramiClear or other ‘Hard’ paints. It will remove 2500 grit, cut 3.0-gloss 3.5, is formulated as a quick way to polish out light flaws and amplify the paint’s gloss. Use a primed Orange (mid range, high density foam (60 PPI) medium abrasive cutting action LC CCS foam pad 1200 RPM
9. Wet-sand with 2000, 2500 or 3000 grit finishing paper

[aleicgrant]

I live in FL as well. Invest in a CR spotless system and never worry about water spots again. I wash mine in full sun with no issues what so ever

[aleicgrant]

http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Water-Spot-Remover-P194/16-oz-S1/

you can also try this. Use it sparingly and wash it off immediately after

[aleicgrant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXJuT1_Jm0

[hoppy6698]

http://www.detailedimage.com/Chemical-Guys-M31/Water-Spot-Remover-P194/16-oz-S1/

you can also try this. Use it sparingly and wash it off immediately after

TOWGT methods are solid. There is no magical "one stop" polish that is perfect for fixing this for all makes.

I grew up in FL. Sad fact is, the sun will damage any unprotected car. Soft water (distilled/oxidants removed) will not leave spots as harsh however. Failing that - wash in the shade, as cool as possible, dry immediately. Use a detail spray/clay lube mixed with distilled water (50/50) to help dry if spots begin to form. Like the detailbyvinny video shows, a DA (dual action) orbiter like a PC or Flex, will do wonders for fixing even minor issues in clearcoats that would normally take hours or days by hand.