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Sherif
03-12-2010, 06:49 AM
I'm gathering parts since a while for this build and my appointment at Rombotis tuning is in less than 10 days so I'll start the thread

History and spec of the actual car.

I bought it in 2005 as a 2001.5 S4 with 36 000km 6 speeds, sport package and xenon, but it was a 2000 A4 swaped :S the car only had a chip and Koni coil over back then.

Current mods to the car

Tial GT2554 turbos (used as protoype for the tial 650)
Tial 2 1/4" inlet pipes
siemens 60lbs 630cc injectores
Ford Lightning 90mm air flow meter
Garett Bar&plate 12x26x3.5" FMIC
Walbro 255 lph fuel pump
Samco sport hose kit
4 bar fuel pressure regulator
2 1/2" catless downpipes
ASP true dual catback
South Bend stage 5 clutch
Fidanza flywheel
Custom alu Y pipe (larger than RS4)
APR R1 diverter valves
RS4 camshaft
ECS lw pulley kit
AC deleted
Eurodyne tuned
Kosei K1TS 17" wrapped in Falken Azenis
Koni coilover
H-Sport anti sway bar
AWE DTS
034 track density engine/tranny mont
Stern center and resr diff mount/bushing
APR snub mount
HD tie rod end
AWE pedals
Fiber Image trunk lid
M3 lip spoiler
Clear corner
chromed mirror cap
RS4 grille
JHM trannt rebuild kit
JHM short shifter, linkage, and shifter bushing
Stasis 4:1 center diff.
AWE pod boost gage
Zimmerman cross drilled disk and Hawk HPS compound pads

here's pics of the car right now
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/DSC02418.jpg?t=1254800310

And here're the parts I have in stock that are going on the car soon.

B6 3.0l crank
Supertech 82.5mm piston, 8.8:1 CR coateds skirt and designed to go with a 3.0l crank
Rosten rods
GURUMAN agtronic GT2860RS turbo kit
GT28RS Vbanded turbos
Agtronic tubular manifold (Vbanded for the wastegate and ceramic coated)
3" stainless downpipes (Vbanded)
Tial 44mm external wastegate
dump tube
inlet pipes
034 anti-friction coated bearing (all of them)
2.8l heads (34 000 km on them, ported to match gasket)
2.8l HG
supertech inconel exhaust valves
Supertech titanium retainers and springs
Devil's Own methanol injection kit
RS4 intake manifold with TB port ported to 80mm
034 DBC throttle body and conversion kit
034 80mm TBB
ARD coated bi-pipes ( 2"1/4 and already tapped for Meth)
Vast high flow electronic fan kit
Vast oil catch can kit
Ferrea stainless intake valves
Vast phenolic intake spacer
Energy suspension bushing for the DTS
Clutchmaster sprung FX850 twin disk clutch
USP metal salve cylinder and stainless steel lines
RNS-E
Tilton proportioning valves for running with no more ABS
Moroso catch cans with breather
lot of seals and gasket...

Parts bought after the beginning of the build:
034 fuel rails, 034 fuel lines, bosh 044 in tank pump, walbro in line pump, aeromotive FPR, 034 fuel pressure gauge, poished HRE 540R in 19", raceware man stud, 034 non stretch head bolts


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/car032.jpg


So I think that's it for now
Mike will also change the fuel lines and do the tune and I'm waiting for 034 fuel rail from Issam but that's it for now. Once it's done I'm going to get the car painted audi "brown teak metal" and I'll put the car on nice wheels (just had a deal from a guy here with mint 19" HRE 540R )

big thanks in advance to GURUMAN for being such a nice guy always glad to share infos with us, who did me a great price for his turbo kit and who did bring the B5 platform one step further(IMHO). And thanks to Mike Rombotis who'll surely do a great job on my car, I think he's one of the main reason for the succes of Guru's builds, I wouldn't want anyone else to take care of my car

more info to come as the build start, sorry for the weak english, I'm not 12 years old I'm just french ;)

Spooled1.8
03-12-2010, 06:57 AM
Awesome build man! If it's anything like GURUS car was. I'm sure it will become epic. Your English is perfect, don't sweat it [up]

veggiemonster
03-12-2010, 07:09 AM
damn. your car looks exactly like where i was gonna go with mine....


plus gt's lol

a4_matt
03-12-2010, 07:46 AM
sorry for the weak english, I'm not 12 years old I'm just french

I lol'd at this!

Sounds like it's going to be epic... can't wait for the finished product![up]

veggiemonster
03-12-2010, 08:08 AM
sherif, what will you be doing with the 2554 kit?????

Sherif
03-12-2010, 08:19 AM
I'll verify they have no shaft play (24 000km on them) and if they are still good I'll sell them.

Asking price will be 2500$ for the turbos and inlet, but already 3 persons interested here... if none of the 3 take them they'll end up in the classified

veggiemonster
03-12-2010, 08:20 AM
I'll verify they have no shaft play (24 000km on them) and if they are still good I'll sell them.

Asking price will be 2500$ for the turbos and inlet, but already 3 persons interested here... if none of the 3 take them they'll end up in the classified

make that 4.

RolledMySTi
03-12-2010, 08:20 AM
That's a pretty pile of parts you've got there. Should be insane once it is all put together.

GypsySmash
03-12-2010, 08:34 AM
hot damn that is an awesome build

JDM EJ1 95
03-12-2010, 06:25 PM
nice work! we will have to compare builds once complete.

TweetsS4Estate
03-12-2010, 06:57 PM
picture of custom y pipe please

Reich
03-12-2010, 07:03 PM
Hey sherif. You all ready have all your parts you luck guy. Way to go man. I'll folow your thread for sure.

Sherif
03-13-2010, 05:12 AM
Yeah I know going 3.0l would cost me a arm and a leg... so I'm gathering parts since I had a deal for a 3.0l crank for 200$ (CDN$ ;) )

here you go for the Y pipe, it was done by Tapp in Ottawa and cost me arround 100$ back in 2006
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs154.snc3/18173_443781435592_717010592_10682961_4476897_n.jp g
ohhh, please don't pay attention to my hood prop lol

wdbdy2000s4
03-13-2010, 05:21 AM
ohhh please don't pay battention to my hood prop lol

that is my favorite part

washyourrhands
03-13-2010, 12:42 PM
that is my favorite part

same here...perfect lol

good luck on this man...looking forward to it

Wizard-of-OD
03-13-2010, 02:53 PM
more info to come as the build start, sorry for the weak english, I'm not 12 years old I'm just french ;)
LOL
love it Seb!

B3n
03-13-2010, 03:14 PM
Hell yeah a new member here just to follow this thread !

This is built in Quebec and I'm proud of it ! Hope i'll see it somewhere one time


Hoo and sorry for my misspeeling i'm french too :D

jibberjive
03-13-2010, 07:40 PM
Nice! Good luck buddy! Love the rusty shovel lol

Sherif
03-14-2010, 06:58 PM
thanks for the support guys!

here's a link to the car's next color, anyone have a link for pics of a brown B5?

http://blog-audi-r8.fr/2009/09/10/salon-de-francfort-audi-r8-spyder-couleur-brun-teck-metal-en-photos-sur-route/

Ringlord
03-14-2010, 08:06 PM
One more week, Seb, and the work will begin! It'll be fun to see how your setup will compare to Guru's, regarding the Motronic vs 034 IIc.
See you next Sunday!

Sherif
03-22-2010, 12:55 PM
Car is now in good hands, Mike should start to work on it today. I'll keep you updated with pics and more details as sonn as I get somes

Sherif
03-24-2010, 08:27 AM
Things are mooving way faster that I expected. Engine were removed monday, yesterday short block was disassembled and sent to machine work... who's supposed to get it done for friday! tuesday in the worst case.... so we will be waiting for the heads for sure.

should have some pics for you tonight ;)

antoanS4
03-24-2010, 10:08 AM
Nice built

GURUMAN
03-24-2010, 10:45 AM
Man I saw your car this morning, no engine, Mike Rock's

Thx for money Seb...

Sherif
03-24-2010, 11:10 AM
No problem Dom, I told you you would be paid before I take possession of the turbos... all I'm missing is my case of Guru ;)

send me a pm if you have anything else for sale bro

JaredVL
03-25-2010, 12:24 AM
good work sebastian, this is going to be sick!

GURUMAN
03-25-2010, 05:10 AM
good work sebastian, this is going to be sick!

X2

and to make a slight change in the shitty GT attitude world, I'll help Seb as much as posible to reach his Goal, and if I think his goal is to weak, I'll kick his but and raise it.

I wish he pops my 10.51 !

cjk
03-25-2010, 05:52 AM
Awesome build man!

Sherif
03-25-2010, 05:50 PM
X2

and to make a slight change in the shitty GT attitude world, I'll help Seb as much as posible to reach his Goal, and if I think his goal is to weak, I'll kick his but and raise it.

I wish he pops my 10.51 !

You've already done a lot Dom, more than I could've asked.... but I'll take any additionnal help :)

For your record, to be honest if I can do some 10 sec with my South Bend clutch it woud be nice... but I don't want to destroy anything(not enought budget if things start to fall apart) and the SB clutch have to hold for at least one full year, living at 500km from Mike is nothing to help me also... but no worries I'll track the car

JDM EJ1 95
03-25-2010, 05:59 PM
You've already done a lot Dom, more than I could've asked.... but I'll take any additionnal help :)

For your record, to be honest if I can do some 10 sec with my South Bend clutch it woud be nice... but I don't want to destroy anything(not enought budget if things start to fall apart) and the SB clutch have to hold for at least one full year, living at 500km from Mike is nothing to help me also... but no worries I'll track the car

if you have another car just stomp on it.. hahah dont hold back, i want to see that 10.50 i just always had a hard time beleiving a single plate will handle that much power.

you guys have a minor advantage being only a couple hundred feet above sea level.

when do you plan on having this done sherif?

Sherif
03-25-2010, 06:12 PM
I don't know and I don't care for the time it get to be done... I prefer Mike to take his time and do everything right while the car's there as I'm not able to go back in Montreal as often as I'd like.... oh and I will have my driver license back only on june 10 anyway

but seriously thing seem to meve very fast, I let thecar there sunday afternoon, monday the mecanic was out, tuesday the block was at the machine shop... and machine shop won't take one full week to get the job done. We will have to wait for the heads... I sent them to a old machine shop owner who may not work very very fast, and who may just send me to hell if I try to push him... but I want him to do the job as he did great head job and he charge me a very good price

any time frame question should be directed to Mike as everything is in his hands and there's no rush for this to get done in a rush on my side... other than machine work, we will probably also have some delays when ordering some parts, I still haven't received fuel rail from Issam and the walbro fuel pump should not be enought

JaredVL
03-25-2010, 07:11 PM
Seb, just keep your tire pressure way up until you get your launches and your engagement dialed. then slowly lower them. you will spin alot. then you will spin less, then you will hook. you need to just find the fine line where YOU are comfortable and feel its the best launch you can get and be consistent for you.

you wont break or kill clutches until you get nervous and dump too fast or slip too much. remember you first few runs, maybe your first 10 need to be shake down runs, not just for the car but for you too. you are about to have some serious power and there is nothing wrong with granny launches and lifting at the 1/8th a few times before you go balls out.

Sherif
03-26-2010, 04:43 AM
thanks Jared, these are valuable recommendation I won't forget

diabolical1
03-26-2010, 06:49 PM
you have a very impressive list of parts going into your build. i'm just curious ... why didn't you employ a crank girdle as well? these builds always excite me, so i'll be keeping tabs on this one.

Sherif
03-26-2010, 07:23 PM
too lazy for doing the girdle... I prefered to save some $$$ and save some real PITA for Mike. Dom also told me the girdle was the thing he regreted the most on his build, I guess he still had a leaking upper oil pan at the end... so I just decided to trust those who already did it and just don't go in the hazzle of the crank girdle

Sherif
03-28-2010, 07:55 AM
juste received some pics of the car that were taken last monday
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif01
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif02
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif03
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif04
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif05


turbos that went out
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/03272010527.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/03272010532.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/03272010536.jpg
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/03272010537.jpg

not that bad I guess... here they are when I received them from Tial
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/char0060.jpg

thanks to Ben and Mike for the pics

Ringlord
03-28-2010, 08:05 PM
Hey Seb, here are a couple of pics of the painted engine bay... the color choice is AWESOME!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/miker76/IMG_2024.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/miker76/IMG_2025.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/miker76/IMG_2026.jpg

diabolical1
03-29-2010, 08:19 AM
... the color choice is AWESOME!
agreed.

Reich
03-29-2010, 12:47 PM
Hey Seb. Is that my engine AKA guruman's old, that i've seen on the table in the first pics?

Thank's for keeping us updated. Nice pics and serious parts you're putting in. Way to go Sherif and Rombotis guys. [race]

You know what? I think it would be nice to have a race for fun. Me against you, against GURU LSblock. That would be funny as hell. We could do that at ''pont rouge'' track in my area, Quebec city, which is between you and GURUMAN. and go out after.

I don't know when mine is going to be finished tho. I'm still in the process of gathering parts.

pipe7284
03-29-2010, 12:54 PM
beautiful!!!!!1 love the color too.

Sherif
03-29-2010, 01:26 PM
Reich: I'm pretty sure it's guru's old engine on the first pics. If the clutch hold fine I would be glad to race you when you're done

will175
03-29-2010, 01:28 PM
Hey Seb,
I shot over a pm to Mike. Thanks for the quick reply early this morning.

GURUMAN
03-29-2010, 03:39 PM
Is that my engine AKA guruman's old

Yess sir !

GURUMAN
03-29-2010, 03:41 PM
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif01

My 4.2L for the B6 Avant is right beside...

DiscoPotato
03-30-2010, 11:30 AM
sick build man

Sherif
03-31-2010, 06:24 AM
Tial turbos are now sold to will175... they're going to Hawaï

will175
03-31-2010, 10:05 PM
Hey thanks Seb. I cant say more good things about you and Mike... Really stand up guys!! I have a big feeling that these wont be enough power but thats the fun part seeing what it will take to put a big smile every time I go into boost,lol. I am stoked though to finally upgrade from K04s, only drove my K04s for about 5k miles if that. Was really disappointed with the power (keep in mind that was really the only option for proven turbo upgrades then).

Hey Seb, if you see or talk to Mike again can you let him know I pm'd him again. Nothing to do with your turbos though. :-) (pm me if you are curious,lol) Thanks again bro. I wish you the best with your build.

Sherif
04-02-2010, 08:31 PM
I want your opinion. next friday I take a day off to go see Mike, I'll bring him the heads assembly and stop on my way to buy a set of wheels. Here's the dilema:

I had my choice on a set of polished HRE 540R 19x8" , I planned to buy the wheels with no tire and then buy the tire later, 2 wheels are almost perfect when the other 2 are in very good condition but the lips have had some minor chip (that have been repaired with lead).
The seller also have a set of BBS LM 19x8.5" in almost perfect condition (I couldn't say these did run on the street) with a set of pirelly tire 30-40% used. He want more for the LM with tires, but when I add new tires for the HRE I come to almost the same price (200-300$ difference LM being more expensives)

What would you guys do? LM are great wheels I always loved, when I don't know HRE that much but by reputation... HRE are supposed to be a better wheel with a bit more prestige and I think the polished look would fit great on the brown car. I include some pics of the wheel I'm looking at right now, thanks for your imputs

LM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/jazzman59/IMG_5955.jpg

HRE
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/jazzman59/IMG_0855.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/jazzman59/IMG_0853.jpg
HRE on previous owner's car (probably someone from audizine)
http://www.audizine.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9252&d=1263928949
http://www.audizine.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9092&d=1263420492

Ringlord
04-04-2010, 10:16 AM
Oh man, I love the LM's! The HRE's are amazing, but there's something pornographic about the LM's flat-face look!
I would go with the LM's but either way, you can't go wrong.

will175
04-04-2010, 02:45 PM
I vote LM's too. But HRE are some sicks wheels. I want those other BBS wheels

B3n
04-04-2010, 03:08 PM
BBS LM all the way for me .... Do you buy it from Jazzman ? I remember this picture butt i'm not sure ..

Sherif
04-04-2010, 08:05 PM
You're right Ben, Jazzman is the owner of the wheels... they are not officially for sale, but he now have 6 set for his A4 and is willing to part one. I'm looking at the HRE since the beginning because of the price, and I can get tires later... the BBS were my first dream wheels... but now even with the price with tires being almost even I start thinking that the HRE are more rare wheels here in Quebec and the polished look may look better on the dark brown car with chromed mirror caps

We'll be fixed friday ;)

I think the HRE are jonnybravo's old wheels

Reich
04-04-2010, 08:22 PM
Well HRE's are the one i'm dreaming at as well. Take those wheels.

Reich
04-09-2010, 10:52 AM
For your record, to be honest if I can do some 10 sec with my South Bend clutch it woud be nice... but I don't want to destroy anything(not enought budget if things start to fall apart) and the SB clutch have to hold for at least one full year, living at 500km from Mike is nothing to help me also... but no worries I'll track the car[/QUOTE]

Hey Sherif. I've looking around sites and did phone calls. And you know what? I'll go with southbend as well. I explained to him the whp guru did which i expect to be close + the race file i want to do with my second ecu which will be higher. He said no problem. Heres the p/n i need : k70286f-ss-dxdb. Is that what you have? That include flywheel, bearing clutch and stuff. He said it will handle very well if a i want to track-it. Just want to let you know.

Sherif
04-10-2010, 08:29 AM
hummm, I'm not sure of the part number, would have to check... but it's a SB stage 5 and I don't run their flywheel but a Fidanza. I'm glad to hear they told you it will hold the power and I hope so... but I have some serious doubt a single disk clutch will hold.

Went to the shop yesterday with the heads assembly, they only have a small porting job on the intake runners to match the gasket and phenolic spacers, same thing on the RS4 intake. Mike show me my block that have been machined and balanced, hopefully I will get some pics of it somewhere next week. Block and valve covers are going to be painted red and RS4 intake is going to be powdercoated black. We're just missing head/main bolts for now.

I also picked up some wheels, here's some porn for ya.... ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/jazzman59/IMG_6333.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/jazzman59/IMG_6331.jpg

Sherif
04-12-2010, 06:48 PM
no big progress yet, just ordered the parts I was missing to complete the build: raceware main studs, 034 non strech head bolts, 034 fuel rails (but we'll have to make our brackets for these as there are none yet for the RS4 intake), 034 fuel line kit, aeromotive fuel pressure regulator, 034 fuel pressure gauge for the regulator. With these we should be all done for this year. We'll see if the 630CC injector will be maxed, I'm going from in tank walbro to in tank 044 + in line walbro

Sherif
04-20-2010, 07:51 AM
Still waiting for 034 package to come in, so Mike can build the engine. Intake is back from powdercoating

http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif10

kbS42001
04-20-2010, 10:58 AM
Sherif,
Best of luck with your build. Looks like its getting some royal treatment and you gotta post up videos when its complete...It looks amazing and your choice of color is GREAT. keep up with the pictures too!

what a tough decision with the rims!.....either choice is equally bad ass and im sure those HRE's will look bad ass!

RolledMySTi
04-20-2010, 12:21 PM
Nice looking intake manifold.

Reich
04-20-2010, 01:19 PM
^^^ Agreed.

sean1.8t
04-21-2010, 06:03 PM
the original GT S4 stepping it up! i like!

hopefully you attain the car's true potential before you part it out like everyone else does

GURUMAN
04-21-2010, 06:22 PM
the original GT S4 stepping it up! i like!

hopefully you attain the car's true potential before you part it out like everyone else does

easy on this, sherif will have all my knowledge and a few of my parts to continue going even faster...

It's about time some of the E-racers on AZ realize that it take more than a GT kit to go over 140 mph !

sean1.8t
04-21-2010, 07:48 PM
easy on this, sherif will have all my knowledge and a few of my parts to continue going even faster...

It's about time some of the E-racers on AZ realize that it take more than a GT kit to go over 140 mph !

you're quite to defensive Dom. i mean't nothing bad about you or your skills. and im not e-racing here.

it's just that for every GT car that gets built, 2 are parted out before they are run to their full potential. props to you on your pump gas results, i just wish we could have seen some racegas/spinning to 9k rpm numbers and times ya know... but ease up off the defense, you have nothing more to prove around here

Sherif
04-21-2010, 08:20 PM
thanks Sean! the car has evolved a lot since it was used as a beta tester for the eliminators by Tapp and Tial in 2006. I don't plan on parting the car soon, but full potential will probably not be this year, unless SB stage 5 hold better that what I'm expecting.

Also probably no 9000 RPM and race gaz... I don't plan on reving it higher than 8500 RPM (Dom's showed that the turbos were maxed before that) and I don't plan on running race gaz, I'll just take one tune running 91 octane and Water/Meth as a daily. I'll have to test the clutch before I go balls out on the track as I don't have budget to go twin disk this year... it will happend eventually, but not until next year(talking about the clutch setup) I'll go on the track, but I'm not sure yet on how hard I'll be able to lauch

GURUMAN
04-22-2010, 04:47 AM
you're quite to defensive Dom. i mean't nothing bad about you or your skills. and im not e-racing here.

it's just that for every GT car that gets built, 2 are parted out before they are run to their full potential. props to you on your pump gas results, i just wish we could have seen some racegas/spinning to 9k rpm numbers and times ya know... but ease up off the defense, you have nothing more to prove around here

Sorry I cant really spell with sarcasm... Sometimes I wish I didnt do it, but family and new house demanded otherwise... With my engine an turbo kit sold, I got back enough money to clear my wife's B7 A4, a must for my new mortgage.

We just never know waht will happened, I can duplicate what I did for a fraction of the cost in a couple of weeks now...

Sherif
04-26-2010, 05:40 AM
Things are in progress, 034 package arrived at the end of last week and Mike spent some time working on my engine this week end. It's now assembly!

He had some problems with the rod bearings... it seem that 034 coated bearing don't fit the Rosten rods, we were lucky Mike had some 034 VR6 coated rod bearings that fitted there. More progress pics to come this week :)

Sherif
04-28-2010, 09:00 PM
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif11
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif12
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif13
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif14
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif15

progress! :)

*Blue-Angel*
04-28-2010, 09:21 PM
Looking sexy nice...

Ha the way you shot the first pic you made the engine look 5x smaller than it really is.

Sherif
05-07-2010, 04:42 AM
more pics of the engine assembly

http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif16
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif17
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif18
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif19
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif20
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif21
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif22

that's it for now... ordered a Braille battery (to replace the odyssey pc680 a tuning shop in quebec here never returned on waranty since 3 years... funy they run one now on their shop car)
Also ordered a billet rear diff carriere from Lazslo










bah.... things are moving fast @Rombotis ;)


http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif23
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif24
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif25
http://www.rombotistuning.com/pict/sherif26

car should start soon... I or Mike will keep you posted with dyno graph

Jason@Addict
05-07-2010, 06:08 AM
Is this car staying on Motronic? Will you be using the stock Y-Pipe and Maf?

We also switched to using braille instead of odyssey.

Sherif
05-07-2010, 07:02 AM
Yes the car will stay on motronic ECU
I was planning on using the custom Y-pipe I had since I went stage 3 (it's pictured on the first page of this tread)
I'm currently running a ford lightning 90mm MAF but I also gave Mike a Hitachi air flow meter. Not sure yet what he'll be working with

If there would be a way to run with no MAF and Y pipe without spending thousands of $ on a stand alone let me know I'd like to do it. I know a lot of 1.8T use motronic ECU and run mafless.

Mike just sent me a message telling the custom Y pipe is too big to fit under the hood now... it was rubbing but know with the stiffer 034 engine mount, RS4 Intake and 034 fuel

Jason@Addict
05-07-2010, 07:32 AM
Yes the car will stay on motronic ECU
I was planning on using the custom Y-pipe I had since I went stage 3 (it's pictured on the first page of this tread)
I'm currently running a ford lightning 90mm MAF but I also gave Mike a Hitachi air flow meter. Not sure yet what he'll be working with

If there would be a way to run with no MAF and Y pipe without spending thousands of $ on a stand alone let me know I'd like to do it. I know a lot of 1.8T use motronic ECU and run mafless.

Mike just sent me a message telling the custom Y pipe is too big to fit under the hood now... it was rubbing but know with the stiffer 034 engine mount, RS4 Intake and 034 fuel

That's what I was wondering. As far as I know the S4 and RS4 Y-pipes have trouble clearing the fuel rail fittings. You can tune mafless but the system will not be able to provide proper fuel and spark for boost spikes and inconsistent flow as it will no longer be reading actual air flow. As long as you get a very good tune you should be able to run the system 'blind'.

Korben007
05-07-2010, 01:53 PM
you could do something like the 300zx crowd. they run a MAF down low on one of the turbos. And then when tuning the MAF input is translated as a 50% and you can still get it perfect cause the streams meet up anyway so the manifold has even pressure therefore the turbos will have even spool. downfall is if one turbo fail it could make the readings off. But that can eliminate alot of piping.

GURUMAN
05-07-2010, 03:19 PM
Seb, I feel sorry for the color I chose for ceramic coating, white sucks when you have dirty hands...

And dont worry about the little unexpected charged you got, I'll fix that for ya...

Sherif
05-07-2010, 03:55 PM
Thanks Dom, I haven't received any bill for the extra work on manifold or inlet

I hope you'll be back from Florida for the Rombotis BBQ... I'm doing 500km back and forth to get some burguers with you guys, it would be nice to see you there on that day!

GURUMAN
05-07-2010, 04:02 PM
Thanks Dom, I haven't received any bill for the extra work on manifold or inlet

I hope you'll be back from Florida for the Rombotis BBQ... I'm doing 500km back and forth to get some burguers with you guys, it would be nice to see you there on that day!

I got back, I actually bought a house yesterday, lol...


I'm in for BBQ, I'll send a GURU fridge with plenty of good stuff ! I will be there.

Sherif
05-07-2010, 04:06 PM
Great! for you bein there, for tha house and for the fridge of Guru :)

Sales@RAI
05-07-2010, 05:58 PM
Awesome stuff! Glad to see it coming together. I'm thinking about getting a Hemi TB also

Reich
05-07-2010, 08:26 PM
Thanks for the update Seb. Nahh i wont make it for the BBQ. My girlfriend is working that weekend ao i'll have to stay with the kids. Unless i bring the kids for BBQ ;) I'll be there the monday after though.

Sherif
05-07-2010, 08:58 PM
Bring the kids!!!

Wizard-of-OD
05-08-2010, 09:11 PM
Looking Great Seb!

Sherif
05-24-2010, 01:36 PM
small update: the car's running, Mike actually did some turns arround the block when he finishe to adapt the 3`` downpipe du my ASP true dual cat=back . I have a video of the first start up, as soon as I figure how to post it I'll do it. tuning should start next week. 034 sent the wrong fuel lines so Mike will have to find some others locally, he found that my actual fuel lines behind the car were crushed probably by a jack when lifting the car. that's it so far, should have more info coming very soon

Ringlord
05-24-2010, 03:59 PM
Another small update, today I installed the water/meth setup.. one step closer!

Sherif
05-25-2010, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the update Mike

here's a video of the first start-up last week


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mOGozSVQeA&feature=player_embedded

Turbo Nerd
05-25-2010, 01:57 PM
Sounds good. [up]

*Blue-Angel*
05-25-2010, 02:23 PM
Wow That sounds gorgeous. Bet its 10x better in person.

Sales@RAI
05-25-2010, 02:27 PM
that sounds insanely mean

Ringlord
05-25-2010, 07:34 PM
The sound in the video is really off! Yes, it sounds amazing in person, but that video is wit open dumps. Now it has a full exhaust. Sounds like the engine is revving really high in the video, but it never passed 4500rpm!

will175
05-26-2010, 12:56 AM
Sounds sick...Congrates Sherif. Hey bro you got my email about the lines? But cant wait to see vids of that beast on the road.

Sherif
06-01-2010, 06:01 PM
Dyno tuning started today!

Mike started to do the rodage of the engine on the dyno. He told me they then rev it up to 4000 RPM and 17 psi...

Mike should chime in with more details in the next days

J-b5
06-01-2010, 06:50 PM
this is the sort of thing i want to build when i have the cash to spare.

bradyzq
06-02-2010, 11:39 AM
It's on the dyno. I'm tuning it with no meth on 91 octane on wastegate springs (17psi) first.

Let's just say that it's much quicker than a very healthy Stage 3 running 24psi on 94 octane.

Basically, it's going well!

Sherif
06-02-2010, 01:59 PM
Thanks for the updates Brady

I'm alway saying Mike, Mike, Mike... but the tuning is your part ;)

thanks to keep us updated with result

GURUMAN
06-02-2010, 03:36 PM
Seb, let's say at 17 psi, youre building boos faster and have a better torque curve than I use to have.

We really think 2 healthy turbos help...

The torque come earlier, witch I think youre gonna freak out, about 500 rpm before my powerband...

bradyzq
06-02-2010, 04:00 PM
Another little teaser: while trying to dial in the N75 (which may be a losing battle with the external wastegates) I hit 500wtq at 4000RPM. The final tune may not be able to get quite that high (we'll see!), but it gives you an idea....

bradyzq
06-02-2010, 04:05 PM
Oh, yeah, and that was with no knock and no meth!

Reich
06-02-2010, 04:47 PM
Sebast. If i was you, i would be very exited. Wait ...................i am exited.[drool] Glad for you. Good luck.[up]

Sherif
06-02-2010, 05:08 PM
Dom and Brady, you just made my day! :D

can't wait to try the car... but no rush, I'll get my driver licences back in 9 days. And I can't come to Montreal before next weekend as I'll be at Moncton for the MVOC this week end. Take your time Brady, but keep posting results ;)

Ringlord
06-02-2010, 05:45 PM
Hey Seb, we are all very pleased with the project so far. The new engine is performing flawless, and is making some really nice sounds!

GURUMAN
06-02-2010, 05:56 PM
Hey Seb, we are all very pleased with the project so far. The new engine is performing flawless, and is making some really nice sounds!

Looks like you just build up an other high power 3.0L GT S4 that will most probably run a 10 sec !

Mike, you seriously are the man, when talking about high HP and Fast (proven) cars...

antoanS4
06-02-2010, 09:37 PM
is that a custom made Y pipe, and what tuner are you using?

bradyzq
06-03-2010, 05:09 AM
The tuner would be me ,aka DynoDoc! Well, at least for the ECU, which is still Motronic.

Mike at Rombotis Tuning is doing all the rest.

It's funny. He comes over to my dyno (right behind his shop) to see how things are going as if he's checking in on his newborn first child.

Sherif
06-03-2010, 05:24 AM
Yes the custom Y pipe was made by Chris Tapp@Eurodyne a long long time ago

Brady@dynodoc is tuning the car, he did tune Guruman car with 034 EFI and is adjacent to Rombotis tuning so Mike will be close during the rodage and tuning of the engine. I'm confident with him.

antoanS4
06-03-2010, 07:18 AM
^ the Y pipe is fucking nice, do they sell them or was just one that they made

agent s
06-03-2010, 07:42 AM
^ the Y pipe is fucking nice, do they sell them or was just one that they made

Not compared to a ceramic coated RS4 Is alot cleaner looking because you can retain your oem covers

Sherif
06-03-2010, 08:08 AM
Not compared to a ceramic coated RS4 Is alot cleaner looking because you can retain your oem covers

It was a one of... and I was charged 100-150$ for it, far less than half the price of a uncoated RS4 Y pipe. Plus I don't care about the oem cover. I wouldn't want to hide Mike job ;) IMO the red valve cover, powdercoated RS4 intake, 80mm Hemi TB and billet 034 fuel rails and lines look gorgeous... plus they wouldn't fit under OEM cover

Best would be to get rid of the Y pipe and MAF but that would require a standalone and this is not in my plans for now

blackbenzz
06-03-2010, 09:19 AM
Nice build! Looks like you will be very happy with it and have a monster on your hands. Based on gurumans numbers this thing should be a beast!

bradyzq
06-03-2010, 09:44 AM
Not compared to a ceramic coated RS4 Is alot cleaner looking because you can retain your oem covers

You prioritize a couple of cosmetic plastic covers over better airflow?

Your mindset is definitely not the same as ours.

antoanS4
06-03-2010, 09:56 AM
It was a one of... and I was charged 100-150$ for it, far less than half the price of a uncoated RS4 Y pipe. Plus I don't care about the oem cover. I wouldn't want to hide Mike job ;) IMO the red valve cover, powdercoated RS4 intake, 80mm Hemi TB and billet 034 fuel rails and lines look gorgeous... plus they wouldn't fit under OEM cover

Best would be to get rid of the Y pipe and MAF but that would require a standalone and this is not in my plans for now

So if you run standalone you wont need to run the Y pipe and the MAF? i would buy one, i dont care about the covers cause im not using them anyways

Das General
06-03-2010, 11:35 AM
You prioritize a couple of cosmetic plastic covers over better airflow?

Your mindset is definitely not the same as ours.

OWNED!

Two questions. What does it $$ for you to tune an ME.7 ECU and what did you guys end up with # wise on Seb's car?

onemoremile
06-03-2010, 11:46 AM
I pruned some poo posts so lets keep it civil. I'm not big on pruning and shit.

GURUMAN
06-03-2010, 12:43 PM
Wassup Jim !

bradyzq
06-03-2010, 02:37 PM
OWNED!

Two questions. What does it $$ for you to tune an ME.7 ECU and what did you guys end up with # wise on Seb's car?

One answer :) We're not done with Seb's car yet. It was basically getting broken in on the dyno on low boost. That's where we are now.

I don't know if I can answer the other question here. I don't know how long the tune will take to get right either. Feel free to PM me on this, though.

Ringlord
06-03-2010, 04:16 PM
So we took the car off the dyno in order to do a full inspection of the motor and to change oil again. I will also be checking compression numbers now and again after the final tune. As Brady mentioned, it is still being broken in. Should be back on the dyno early next week, and we will continue to update the thread!
Mike

Sales@RAI
06-04-2010, 06:09 AM
AWESOME!

Reich
06-09-2010, 04:27 PM
Update please? And how's the clutch holding out so far?

Sherif
06-09-2010, 07:46 PM
sorry, didn't hear from Brady or Mike yet.. I hope "early next week" is soon ;)
I think Mike's job is almost done and he did a great job I'm sure. Now it's Brady's turn to show us what he can do. Both guys are so busy, I'll have to wait until they're done, I'm sure the results will worth the wait.

Sherif
06-17-2010, 01:32 PM
2 weeks later, the car went back on dyno today (and probably still is)

So we should have more result soon... Brady and Mike should keep us updated

bradyzq
06-17-2010, 06:13 PM
Today went well on the dyno. Now I am pushing a bit more, still on low boost (17-18psi). No new higher numbers, but I'm running slower, more loaded pulls to make sure timing is ok, so there's a bit more choppiness to the curves. I'm trying to make a worst case scenario that you'll likely never see on the street, and if it doesn't complain under those conditions, it shouldn't ever.

More tomorrow with new plugs.

BTW, the clutch feels great, and hasn't slipped or juddered at all, but that's only on about 450ish wtq. With another 50 or 100 ft*lbs, who knows?

nefkntym
06-21-2010, 10:08 PM
Awesome build, subscribed.

Sherif
06-22-2010, 08:25 PM
thanks bro,

the car was on the dyno this afternoon. Last week the Ford Lightning MAF was changed as it was reading 4.8-4.9 volt(at about 440 whp) where the absolute max was of 5.0 volt. We are now runnign a Hitachi sensor, fited in the 90mm Ford housing. This afternoon Brady was suposed to adapt the actual tune to the Audi MAF... as soon as I'll know more, I'll let you know

bradyzq
06-24-2010, 06:47 AM
Same deal with the Audi MAF element. I guess that was to be expected. It's different down at lower readings though.

Sherif
06-30-2010, 06:31 PM
Tuning with no Meth was completed last week I didn't posted the dyno graph I received as I wanted to wait for the final numbers, today Brady completed the tuning with W/M.

I talked with him on the phone earlier today, he told me car is a torque monster but there's something wrong as it's not pulling as hard as we wish at higher RPM(the car don't offer much past 6500RPM). Mike have double checked everything but so far nothing's wrong. Did a run with open downpipes and gained less than 5hp so that's not the restriction. The water/meth only allowed to add 2-3 degree of timing. Higher boost did not resulted in highr HP and the tuning with meth allow some more torque but only about 5 more HP.

Brady told me one of the point to check is if the Hemi TB is really opened to 100% when it give the ECU a signal that said it's 100% open.

Mike told me he have to remove the valve cover anyway to re-torque the head bolt. So he will take a look at the cams at the same time. He think the cause of this may be a cam adjuster that was not well reset when the heads were assembly, that would caus cams to be off of some degrees... we'll know more tomorrow, I hope that'll be the problem. The heads are the only part of the build Mike haven't done, I did bring them (and the intake manifold)to a machine shop I know for some porting, the heads were assembled there.

Brady should chime in soon with some dyno graph and more explanation.

Ringlord
07-01-2010, 08:19 AM
Small but significant update, as I thought, bank 2 intake cam was off by a tooth. The head guy set the cams with the cam adjuster in the wrong position. I am not placing blame on him, as I should have disassembled and reassembled the heads myself prior to installing them to avoid this... I should abide by the quote "Trust No One", lol.
Engine is back together again and sounds better right at idle. As soon as Brady gets back from his long weekend, we should see some real results.
Thanks for your patience Seb!

Sherif
07-01-2010, 08:53 AM
Thanks Mike, wow you went soo fast on solving this problem

No worries for the heads, I paid someone else to assemble them... so there's no way I could blame you for not having them disassembled and reassembled

Reich
07-01-2010, 01:02 PM
Hi Seb.

What about the MAF housing? You said that it was limit in size. Did change the size of it? Or did Brady found a way to deal with it?

Sherif
07-01-2010, 02:25 PM
Same ford 90mm housing, but Mike adapted a Hitach sensor in it

Sales@RAI
07-01-2010, 03:19 PM
Small but significant update, as I thought, bank 2 intake cam was off by a tooth. The head guy set the cams with the cam adjuster in the wrong position. I am not placing blame on him, as I should have disassembled and reassembled the heads myself prior to installing them to avoid this... I should abide by the quote "Trust No One", lol.
Engine is back together again and sounds better right at idle. As soon as Brady gets back from his long weekend, we should see some real results.
Thanks for your patience Seb!

Question. Did it throw a code for the cam position sensor? Because I have had an issue on my car for about 8 months and I have yet to figure it. The cams are overlapping like crazy but the keyways are matched up perfect.

Ringlord
07-02-2010, 05:11 AM
Question. Did it throw a code for the cam position sensor? Because I have had an issue on my car for about 8 months and I have yet to figure it. The cams are overlapping like crazy but the keyways are matched up perfect.

No code was thrown due to this. What issue are you having?

bradyzq
07-15-2010, 06:27 PM
Phew!

It feels good to finally have some good numbers and smoother curves for Seb's car. Those cams were a real albatross around our necks and we didn't know it.

Now all is well, and, while I'm not uploading any graphs tonight (tomorrow), I can say we cracked 550whp, and the torque hasn't really suffered down low.

Reich
07-15-2010, 07:02 PM
That's good news. Waiting for more.

.Mad Hatter.
07-16-2010, 06:09 AM
Sherif, purge your inbox, I can't respond to your message about the CQ wheels.

Ringlord
07-16-2010, 09:40 AM
Tuning is done, video will be coming soon, too busy to get into more detail, I'll let Brady do that, but I am pleased to say it hit 588awhp, and torque is close to that. Ok, got to run!

dougyfresh
07-16-2010, 09:47 AM
Tuning is done, video will be coming soon, too busy to get into more detail, I'll let Brady do that, but I am pleased to say it hit 588awhp, and torque is close to that. Ok, got to run!

That's some healthy amount of torque. Awesome stuff.

Sherif
07-16-2010, 10:03 AM
Audizine knew before me ;)

wdbdy2000s4
07-16-2010, 10:11 AM
Tuning is done, video will be coming soon, too busy to get into more detail, I'll let Brady do that, but I am pleased to say it hit 588awhp, and torque is close to that. Ok, got to run!

on pump? what boost?

Ringlord
07-16-2010, 10:16 AM
Yeah, it seems we had a security breach!

I'm considered a breach? wow, ok, thanks, I understand. :(

blackbenzz
07-16-2010, 10:17 AM
And how much did Guruman make in comparison?

bradyzq
07-16-2010, 10:18 AM
Audizine knew before me ;)

Yeah. It seems we had a security breach! :)

bradyzq
07-16-2010, 10:22 AM
I'm considered a breach? wow, ok, thanks, I understand. :(

In a good way! Isn't most useful info "leaked" rather than trumpeted in a press release?

bradyzq
07-16-2010, 10:24 AM
on pump? what boost?

25 psi on 91octane with a touch o' water/meth.

wdbdy2000s4
07-16-2010, 10:52 AM
^Those numbers are amazing then.

Can't wait to see when this thing is on racegas and moar boost.

Sherif
07-16-2010, 11:19 AM
Sorry bro, no race gaz and probably no more boost, it's a daily driver.

No more mods to the engine for this year, these numbers are great for me, I'm really happy with them. Next mods is new paint/wheel next week and I'm done for this year

GURUMAN
07-16-2010, 04:46 PM
WOW, I'M inpressed, congrats Seb !

My old kit is the shit after all, lol [;)]

GURUMAN
07-16-2010, 04:49 PM
And how much did Guruman make in comparison?

I was hitting similar numbers at 21 psi on 94 octane, but I really dont know about that torque curve, It seem a lot better than mine.

A good thing seb has that we suspect I didnt is 2 healthy turbo cartridges !

I'm excited for him, enough to burn his clutch in the first day... JK

Sherif
07-16-2010, 07:29 PM
How long do you think the single disk SB clutch will hold about 580 awtq ? ;)

I'll be at Rombotis at about 15h-15h30 tomorrow if you wanna come!

GURUMAN
07-16-2010, 07:31 PM
How long do you think the single disk SB clutch will hold about 580 awtq ? ;)

I'll be at Rombotis at about 15h-15h30 tomorrow if you wanna come!

ya, I have juice for ya !

blackbenzz
07-17-2010, 01:36 PM
I was hitting similar numbers at 21 psi on 94 octane, but I really dont know about that torque curve, It seem a lot better than mine.

A good thing seb has that we suspect I didnt is 2 healthy turbo cartridges !

I'm excited for him, enough to burn his clutch in the first day... JK

94 with meth or just 94? Interesting that your car required 4 les PSI to make the same hp numbers on only one good turbo. Can't wait to see this car head down the 1320! I love seeing fast cars run!!!

bradyzq
07-17-2010, 04:54 PM
94 with meth or just 94? Interesting that your car required 4 les PSI to make the same hp numbers on only one good turbo. Can't wait to see this car head down the 1320! I love seeing fast cars run!!!

There are MANY differences between Guruman's and Sherif's setups. Motronic vs 034 is a biggie. With the standalone, we're 100% sure what's going on at all times. With the Motronic, well, I think it's a tribute to it that it can control an engine with 3 x the power it was designed to run with minimal complaints. It's easier to make power with a standalone.

The MAF and y-pipe are restricitons that aren't there with a standalone running a MAP sensor only.

Guruman's exhaust has 58% more x-sectional area than Sherif's. That's a huge difference for a turbo car where "the best exhaust is no exhaust."

Sherif has worked 2.8 heads, but stock 2.8 cams. Guru's heads were stock 2.8s.

Sherif is using the cam switchover since he's on Motronic, but Guruman didn't want to for reliability issues.

Fueling is a bit different too. Dom's car didn't make more power worth mentioning when meth was added to 94, and, honestly, Sherif's meth setup is more for building in a bit of safety headroom than for mad power, thoug it probably helps more since he's starting with 91 octane.

And yes, Guru may have had an ailing turbo by the end of the year, but we didn't have any real reason to believe it was ailing when we made 650 wheel on 94 with no meth. It may not have been 100% but it was probably close back then. We'll never know for sure though. I'll check tomorrow, but I think the gap in boost is less than 4psi at power peak.

Basically, I'm saying there are many differences between what at first glance appear to be very similar setups.

Sherif
07-17-2010, 05:34 PM
Got the car!

thanks Mike and Brady for handling all of this, I wouldn't want anyone else to touch my car... at all time Mike make me feel more like a friend or a familly member than like a customer and $$$$ I did really appreciated how you were with me. Be sure I'll be a returning customer (who care if I live 600km from your shop ;) )

the car feel great so far but I didn't push it at all, I picked it under a big rain and I had a very used tire (slick!) and a spare tire due to one of the Kosei being badly cracked... car's going to be painted next week and then I'll be heading to the drag strip to get some numbers

edit: Dom, thanks for making this possible, but more important.... Thanks for the juice!!!! :D

Reich
07-17-2010, 09:14 PM
Congratulation mon ami.
I'm happy it all worked well with you. Meet you sometime this summer.

Sherif
07-19-2010, 06:53 AM
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/SherifS4_wtq_whp.jpg?t=1279566457

here's the dyno graph

Ill 3.0
07-19-2010, 07:31 PM
I'm not sure what the "ideal" powerband would look like on a setup like this. But 300 ft lbs. at 3250-ish RPM sounds pretty amazing to me given what the peak wheel torque is.

Sherif
07-28-2010, 09:01 AM
Car is now brown since monday. We'll let it dry for one week then spend some time polishing it before putting it back together. Should be running next week ;)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs118.ash2/39252_10150250488145593_717010592_13768483_2478329 _n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs211.snc4/38868_10150250488215593_717010592_13768485_4013592 _n.jpg
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gearhead1186
07-28-2010, 09:26 AM
looks great man! def post up some videos when its all done.

Sales@RAI
07-28-2010, 02:02 PM
incredible hp/torque numbers

Sherif
08-12-2010, 08:13 PM
I got my car back tonight. I just can't find the words to describe the job my bodyman did. I'll go take some pictures with a close friend tomorrow after my work and post them here. But honestly other than one more 1/2 inche of drop I wouldn't change anything to the car, it's just perfect right now.

the most funny part, I was supposed to get charged 1500$ for the job..... finally, after painting the car, 1 3/4 gallon of clear, installing a new windshield, re finishing the headlamp... he asked me to keep the car some more time and decided to spend some days to polish the car, 2000 dry, 2000 with water, 3000 with water, 3 compounds with 3 different pads and paste, dry polishing and that one body part at the time, then waxing the whole car, detailing the inside and engine bay....

He made a invoice only charged 1300$ plus taxes all included!!


I promise to post some pics tomorrow

gearhead1186
08-12-2010, 08:23 PM
looking forward to it. while ur there could u also snap some close ups of how you bolted the 80mm TB to ur rs4 intake. I saw that u moved the bolts more inward on the TB.

Sherif
08-12-2010, 08:36 PM
Yes no problem, the RS4 intake was not altered other than porting the TB port to 80mm and the runners to match the phenolic spacers (why keep a 75mm port with a 80mm TB)

The holes to bolt the TB to the Hemi intake were filled with Aluminium's and new holes were redrilled to match the bolt patern of the RS4 intake, in short words that's it

gearhead1186
08-12-2010, 08:40 PM
Yes no problem, the RS4 intake was not altered other than porting the TB port to 80mm and the runners to match the phenolic spacers (why keep a 75mm port with a 80mm TB)

The holes to bolt the TB to the Hemi intake were filled with Aluminium's and new holes were redrilled to match the bolt patern of the RS4 intake, in short words that's it

looking at my TB and intake it looked like moving the bolts inwards was a feasible solution but I wasnt sure if it was going to be enuf. thanks!!

Reich
08-13-2010, 12:13 AM
Congrats SEB. Waiting for some more pics.

lotusgardener
08-13-2010, 06:36 AM
Love the color man


Car is now brown since monday. We'll let it dry for one week then spend some time polishing it before putting it back together. Should be running next week ;)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs118.ash2/39252_10150250488145593_717010592_13768483_2478329 _n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs211.snc4/38868_10150250488215593_717010592_13768485_4013592 _n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs111.ash2/38868_10150250488220593_717010592_13768486_7693000 _n.jpg
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nefkntym
08-13-2010, 08:23 AM
I got my car back tonight. I just can't find the words to describe the job my bodyman did. I'll go take some pictures with a close friend tomorrow after my work and post them here. But honestly other than one more 1/2 inche of drop I wouldn't change anything to the car, it's just perfect right now.

the most funny part, I was supposed to get charged 1500$ for the job..... finally, after painting the car, 1 3/4 gallon of clear, installing a new windshield, re finishing the headlamp... he asked me to keep the car some more time and decided to spend some days to polish the car, 2000 dry, 2000 with water, 3000 with water, 3 compounds with 3 different pads and paste, dry polishing and that one body part at the time, then waxing the whole car, detailing the inside and engine bay....

He made a invoice only charged 1300$ plus taxes all included!!


I promise to post some pics tomorrow

Car looks amazing. Love the price even more!!!

Sherif
08-13-2010, 10:05 PM
We took some pictures tonight, here's a litle teaser

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_0867.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_0892.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_0987.jpg

more to come next week

cjk
08-14-2010, 06:10 AM
Car looks awesome!

nefkntym
08-15-2010, 08:35 AM
Car looks awesome!

Indeed!

Raacerx
08-15-2010, 10:25 AM
have to admit I hate the FMIC... but the brown is just beautiful. Really nice. Root beer color!!!

gearhead1186
08-15-2010, 01:40 PM
gorgeous paint.

Sherif
08-15-2010, 04:52 PM
Car was lowered of 1/2" in the front and 1/4" in the rear today, i would have loved to pit it way lower (still plenty of space on the CO) but the roads in Quebec really suck

I'll get it evaluated tomorrow for the insurance as it's still insured as a 6000$ A4 :S , I wonder how much it's gonna worth for them

thanks for your comments guys!

CLOUT
08-15-2010, 10:03 PM
Fucking awesome build man, congrats

Reich
08-16-2010, 06:18 AM
That's a very rare color for an S4. It end up nice.

RolledMySTi
08-16-2010, 07:58 AM
Car looks great!

Sherif
09-05-2010, 03:17 PM
Received my drag radials and installed 034 rear diff carrier last week, it seem like I have a boost leak somewhere, I'll get it pressure tested this week and then I'll have no more excuse to don't go do some quarter miles runs next sunday ;)

more pics

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_1044.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_1063.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_1052.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_1045.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_0967.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_0870.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_0909.jpg

http://www.jeromebeaulieu.com/albums/album01/IMG_0934.jpg

antoanS4
09-06-2010, 07:51 AM
your car is Fu*#$&@ nice, congrats

.Mad Hatter.
09-06-2010, 08:00 AM
goddamn thats one clean S4

Sherif
09-12-2010, 03:58 PM
My boost leak came from my badly cracked intercooler... I had it fixed localy and bring the car to my bodyman(Tithon) so we reinstalled it and I had him install my license plate lights at the same time. When i picked up my car today, I had him for a ride and he had his camera. when I came home I had a mail from him with a link to a small video he made, enjoy

these were my first 5 lauches since I had the car back from Mike Rombotis, not the best shifting but at least the clutch don't spin at all


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpXylJYU1I

gearhead1186
09-12-2010, 04:02 PM
nice. cant wait to see 1/4 results.

jibberjive
09-12-2010, 04:03 PM
Nice, that thing sounds savage!

gearhead1186
09-12-2010, 04:07 PM
Nice, that thing sounds savage!

yea car is def loud for just an ASP exhaust.

JDM EJ1 95
09-12-2010, 04:10 PM
siickness.. god im sick of waiting on people i want my car back pronto.

Sherif
09-12-2010, 05:13 PM
yea car is def loud for just an ASP exhaust.

yeah but also 2 tial 44mm external wastegates, at full boost you can't really hear the ASP exhaust ;)

gearhead1186
09-12-2010, 05:14 PM
yeah but also 2 tial 44mm external wastegates, at full boost you can't really hear the ASP exhaust ;)

ah yes.

BENI_BOY
09-12-2010, 05:24 PM
sorry for not reading but wasnt this car down from a blown turbo? did you end up putting 770s in?? the car hauls ass btw and x2 on some track results!!!

Sherif
09-12-2010, 05:33 PM
sorry for not reading but wasnt this car down from a blown turbo? did you end up putting 770s in?? the car hauls ass btw and x2 on some track results!!!

car was down for blown K03 in 2006 and they've been replaced by GT2554, these were changed for Guruman's agtronic GT28RS turbo kit this spring by Rombotis tuning... 3000kms on the setup so far and no blown turbo yet

BENI_BOY
09-12-2010, 05:38 PM
car was down for blown K03 in 2006 and they've been replaced by GT2554, these were changed for Guruman's agtronic GT28RS turbo kit this spring by Rombotis tuning... 3000kms on the setup so far and no blown turbo yet

oh okay..false info is floating around then! enjoy the car man!!

BENI_BOY
09-12-2010, 05:38 PM
take it to H20!!

jibberjive
09-12-2010, 07:57 PM
yeah but also 2 tial 44mm external wastegates, at full boost you can't really hear the ASP exhaust ;)

Routed external, right? Sounds sick, but glad I chose re-routed back to the downpipes for a daily driver.

Sherif
09-13-2010, 01:06 AM
Routed external, right? Sounds sick, but glad I chose re-routed back to the downpipes for a daily driver.

seriously, on normal driving the wastegate are almost always closed and the car is not that loud, it's great for a daily this way... it just sound sick when you beat the car

GURUMAN
09-13-2010, 03:49 AM
oh okay..false info is floating around then! enjoy the car man!!

The blown turbo guy is not Sherif, It's Reich, him he bought my engine...

Sherif bought my turbo kit and a few other goodies...


Seb, c'est vraiment nice ton video...

Spooled1.8
09-13-2010, 08:24 AM
Sounds amazing man? And X2 on coming to H20 [up]

Sales@RAI
09-13-2010, 08:28 AM
H2000000000

Reich
09-13-2010, 11:57 AM
Congrats SEB.
Let me know when you going to track the car. Let me know where and when. I want to see it run.

Sherif
09-13-2010, 03:19 PM
september 26 I'll be at Pont Rouge for sure, somewhere near Montreal on september 25 lol... but I have a guy from Eurotuner who may shoot the car that week end, I'll have to chose if I race or if I jump on that occasion to give some credit to the people who worked on the car in a nice magazine... not going to do both the same week end, not using the same wheels

wdbdy2000s4
09-13-2010, 03:23 PM
tell eurotuner to meet you at the track. Epic shots of cranking out 10s FTW!

nefkntym
09-13-2010, 03:31 PM
My boost leak came from my badly cracked intercooler... I had it fixed localy and bring the car to my bodyman(Tithon) so we reinstalled it and I had him install my license plate lights at the same time. When i picked up my car today, I had him for a ride and he had his camera. when I came home I had a mail from him with a link to a small video he made, enjoy

these were my first 5 lauches since I had the car back from Mike Rombotis, not the best shifting but at least the clutch don't spin at all


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqpXylJYU1I

Absolutely awesome. Looking forward to more results.

Reich
09-13-2010, 04:07 PM
september 26 I'll be at Pont Rouge for sure, somewhere near Montreal on september 25 lol... but I have a guy from Eurotuner who may shoot the car that week end, I'll have to chose if I race or if I jump on that occasion to give some credit to the people who worked on the car in a nice magazine... not going to do both the same week end, not using the same wheels

all right I'll be there.

Jurjen
09-15-2010, 03:22 PM
seriously, on normal driving the wastegate are almost always closed and the car is not that loud, it's great for a daily this way... it just sound sick when you beat the car

Having the same wastegate setup, I agree. Even at low boost (13psi), and basically the 44's opening up at anything over 3500rpm, it wasn't bad. Now, at 22psi, the wastegates remain closed until 4200ish or so only when beating on it, sounds great!, not overly loud in everyday driving.

Wizard-of-OD
09-15-2010, 03:38 PM
sweeetness

GURUMAN
09-15-2010, 04:02 PM
Having the same wastegate setup, I agree. Even at low boost (13psi), and basically the 44's opening up at anything over 3500rpm, it wasn't bad. Now, at 22psi, the wastegates remain closed until 4200ish or so only when beating on it, sounds great!, not overly loud in everyday driving.

It feels sweet to have helped you both with your GT setups [;)]

I feel like building one back, lol

open dump FTW [evilsmile]


I cant wait for Simon (Reich) to get his Tial 3.0L monster rollin ! [wrench]

Reich
09-17-2010, 12:05 PM
It feels sweet to have helped you both with your GT setups [;)]

I feel like building one back, lol

open dump FTW [evilsmile]


I cant wait for Simon (Reich) to get his Tial 3.0L monster rollin ! [wrench]
Me too. I can't wait to burn those tires. The more i think of it, the more i believe the torque is gona be bad a$$.

Sherif. PLease let me know via pm at what time you're going to the track. We'll meet again....... at last. I've also never forgot the beer(s) i promised BTW. ; )

Sherif
09-17-2010, 02:15 PM
Unless it's raining, I'll be at Pont Rouge dragway sunday afternoon !! I hope to see you there

I'll share 1/4 mile times and probably, videos with you monday guys

Reich
09-18-2010, 09:27 AM
Sound great.. Are talking about Sunday as tomorow, Or Sunday 26th?
Either way i'll be able to make it.

Sherif
09-18-2010, 11:12 AM
Sunday as tomorrow for Pont-Rouge

sunday 26th I'll be in Montreal

Sales@RAI
09-19-2010, 10:39 AM
excited for results

Reich
09-19-2010, 06:43 PM
So i was there. He needs some practicing and of course some adjustement. But I'm pretty sure he'll be good pretty soon anough.

Sherif
09-19-2010, 06:47 PM
I only did 3 runs... there was way too many people today at the track and we had to wait in line 30 minutes to be able to run.

First pass was 12.29 at 124 mph and it was the best of the 3(the other 2 were of 12.54-12.59), very disapointing, I expected to be at least in the 11. I had 60 fts of 1.8-1.9 spinning all of first(dropping clutch at 5500-6000 rpm) and having a very hard time shifting into 2nd... every time I hit the redline and the RPM then dropped slowly(just like if I had no more fire) leting me nothing, and when I had power back, all my boost is gone... I'll have to check this

first time at the track since 3 years for me and I never went there very often as the closest track is 250 km+ from here, so driving skill are a big point for the bad time today

the MPH were not that bad at 123-124, but there's a problem when trying to go from 1st to 2nd

it was nice to see you there Reich

Reich
09-20-2010, 06:38 PM
I never thought it was that hard. Especially with the RPM cut out you had between 1st and second gear. I guess this is where a stand alone gets involve.
I also believe what you guys are saying. Raising rpm cut out would help a lot.

bradyzq
09-21-2010, 08:23 PM
I'm going to be camping this weekend, but I'll talk with Mike, and I'll figure out a way to get you a file with a higher redline, so the 1-2 shift doesn't bog. I spoke with Dom today, and he figures that might be all you need.

You can also try short-shifting the 1-2 shift since your torque comes on at a pretty low RPM. It might not be ideal, but it should be better than what is currently happening.

11's will be yours....... then 10's!

Sherif
09-22-2010, 06:16 AM
thanks Brady, cold time for camping ;)

I just sent you a mail before I saw you post here.

I have no worries I'll get 11 sec this year with no changes to the car/tuning... I'll probably get back at the shop in 2 weeks and maybe we can swap ECUs with Simon

Reich
09-22-2010, 03:59 PM
thanks Brady, cold time for camping ;)

I just sent you a mail before I saw you post here.

I have no worries I'll get 11 sec this year with no changes to the car/tuning... I'll probably get back at the shop in 2 weeks and maybe we can swap ECUs with Simon

That would be a good idea.. since my car is all ready there.

kbS42001
01-09-2011, 07:49 PM
please come down to H20 this year so i can see your car in person!

car is looking amazing man!

Sherif
01-20-2011, 02:01 PM
Some parts are coming for the new season. Mike ordered a VEMS standalone and wiring harness so the motronic, MAF, Y pipe are going out. At first I was looking at 034 IIc ECU but VEMS have the same features(if not more), is as much (if not more) easy to tune and is more than 1000$ cheaper than the 034 ECU. Mike told he will be able to modify the wiring harness so I can retain my instrument cluster working.

The southbend stage 5 was holding the power so far, but I fear it was borderline of slipping so I also ordered a clutchmaster FX 850 with USP motorsport metal slave cylinder, it should hold the torque well. Only other mods I plan this spring will be to install a good moroso breather system to take care of the oil fumes, some shaving in the engine bay and swap to drive by cable throtle body.

If someone want the SB stage 5 ( 8000 km on it) + fidanza FW for a decent price pm me ! same thing goes for my Hemi 80mm throtle body, custom Y pipe and the ABS module (was replaced last summer)

Reich
01-21-2011, 10:33 AM
Some parts are coming for the new season. Mike ordered a VEMS standalone and wiring harness so the motronic, MAF, Y pipe are going out. At first I was looking at 034 IIc ECU but VEMS have the same features(if not more), is as much (if not more) easy to tune and is more than 1000$ cheaper than the 034 ECU. Mike told he will be able to modify the wiring harness so I can retain my instrument cluster working.

The southbend stage 5 was holding the power so far, but I fear it was borderline of slipping so I also ordered a clutchmaster FX 850 with USP motorsport metal slave cylinder, it should hold the torque well. Only other mods I plan this spring will be to install a good moroso breather system to take care of the oil fumes, some shaving in the engine bay and swap to drive by cable throtle body.

If someone want the SB stage 5 ( 8000 km on it) + fidanza FW for a decent price pm me ! same thing goes for my Hemi 80mm throtle body, custom Y pipe and the ABS module (was replaced last summer)

That's good news for you Seb. You're looking for serious power right now. congratulation.

JDM EJ1 95
01-21-2011, 11:11 AM
interested in the VEMS let me know how it works out.

Sherif
05-04-2011, 08:28 PM
It's been a while since my last post...

After a lot of headaches with my first clutchmaster FX850 getting lost(or stolen) in mail while not insured(declared value of 500$ for customs)/not paid with Visa or pay pals,I did lost a lot of money and thaugt about leaving the car untouched for this year, but finally I'm too addict to that car, so I ordered a second one from Mike Hood at a very good price and I now own a twin disk clutch which cost me over 4000$

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb10/SHERIF222/clutch003.jpg?t=1304566226

I also removed a RNS-E and XM sat. radio from a 2005 A4 convertible that I'll bring Mike to retrofit in the car. I'm bringing the car to Rombotis this week end, he already have the VEMS in stock since a while along with the DBC conversion from 034, USP metal slave cylinder and he should order (or have ordered) the morose catch can with breather, and a proportionning valve to remove the ABS module. That's it for this year along with some tuning and shaving in the engine bay.

Look for a feature in next month Eurotuner :)



here's a litle teaser

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225545_10150611575845593_717010592_18521040_330369 5_n.jpg
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166834_10150110626517145_183253467144_6266946_3571 36_n.jpg

JDM EJ1 95
05-04-2011, 09:15 PM
solid work! great minds think alike haha if you need help on the shave or the prop valve setup i can probably be of service..


nice clutch, ill def snag up the eurotuner

Reich
05-04-2011, 09:23 PM
Good news Seb. keek it going!

Burningcoals
05-04-2011, 10:56 PM
FX850 ROCKS! Somehow its holding crazy TQ! And decent drivability.

Sherif
05-24-2011, 08:16 AM
Clutch is in, Mike did the installation last week.

http://www.rombotistuning.com/ronin/IMG_6924.JPG
http://www.rombotistuning.com/ronin/IMG_6925.JPG

The VEMS should be installed today, ECU came in a nice sealed oem box and the wiring harness is plug and play, I should ask Mike to take me a picture of what he received. Car should be on the dyno again this week. Can't wait to run it.

I also received my Eurotuner since my last post ;)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/246807_10150183577196205_21889446204_7394570_24648 37_n.jpg

Alex818
05-24-2011, 10:28 AM
Kick ass build. Love the color as well man.

PAT@RSW
05-24-2011, 11:32 AM
Saw the vehicle in Eurotuner, looks good !

JDM EJ1 95
05-24-2011, 03:45 PM
i know i asked you this before, but can you PM me info on the VEMS where you got it from and who did the wiring harness for you

Dan[FN]6262
05-24-2011, 03:59 PM
I love how Eurotuner has on the cover "Audi A4 V6 Turbo" under your car.

they fail so hard anymore.

Mantis
05-24-2011, 07:20 PM
I believe the article states that it was purchased as a swapped a4-s4, that was way back when it was young, then it got all crazy

GURUMAN
05-24-2011, 07:26 PM
We just love swapping !

Reich
05-24-2011, 07:49 PM
I've seen Sherif car in real during montreal Audi club and Rombotis meet last fall. And believe me. I'll take sherif's car over many S4 without hesitation (period).
Nice job Seb. Will be fun to dub and track this summer.

Sherif
05-25-2011, 06:21 AM
Thanks for the comments guys,

well I believe me and Guru are not in the right forum... ET are right, I purchased the car 6 years ago as a swap, the VIN said A4 2000 1.8T automatic.

I can't wait to spend some time with you this summer Simon, I knew about your wife :S sorry man, having a ex-wife must suck

For the Vems I bought it from Mike @ Rombotis, it did cost me arround 1500$ but this is including a plug and play wiring harness. I think you should have a look at these ECU, they have almost the same features as 034EFI for less than half the cost.

I talked with Mike Yesterday, the VEMS is in the car he had no problem installing it and he should bring it on the dyno today.

NOTORIOUS VR
05-25-2011, 06:28 AM
Thanks for the comments guys,

well I believe me and Guru are not in the right forum... ET are right, I purchased the car 6 years ago as a swap, the VIN said A4 2000 1.8T automatic.

I can't wait to spend some time with you this summer Simon, I knew about your wife :S sorry man, having a ex-wife must suck

For the Vems I bought it from Mike @ Rombotis, it did cost me arround 1500$ but this is including a plug and play wiring harness. I think you should have a look at these ECU, they have almost the same features as 034EFI for less than half the cost.

I talked with Mike Yesterday, the VEMS is in the car he had no problem installing it and he should bring it on the dyno today.

Hey Seb, good to see you're getting things done...

If you wouldn't mind id like to see how the pnp VEMS was done/looks...

And yes VEMS is a great ECU... very feature rich and constantly expanding. Been working with them for over 6 years now.

Cheers!

Sherif
05-25-2011, 07:00 AM
I'll ask Mike to take some pics (I should have asked before as now it's in the car), or I will take somes next week. But the ECU was in a black box you can fix in the oem location in the firewall, the harness came with oem plug everywhere out of the box and all the wiring was prety well taped.

I had a quote from Sacha @ Shnell before I ordered from Mike, maybe even lower than 1500$(it was a very good price I remember). But Mike used to work with someone from USA (I'm not sure the name maybe ECU express or something like that) and that guy could sell us the VEMS with the harness ready to plug and play.

NOTORIOUS VR
05-25-2011, 07:09 AM
I'll ask Mike to take some pics (I should have asked before as now it's in the car), or I will take somes next week. But the ECU was in a black box you can fix in the oem location in the firewall, the harness came with oem plug everywhere out of the box and all the wiring was prety well taped.

I had a quote from Sacha @ Shnell before I ordered from Mike, maybe even lower than 1500$(it was a very good price I remember). But Mike used to work with someone from USA (I'm not sure the name maybe ECU express or something like that) and that guy could sell us the VEMS with the harness ready to plug and play.


I don't mind loosing the sale, as long as you found what you were looking for! [:)]

Was the PnP stuff from Kevin Black @ Lugnut's tuning maybe?

Audone
05-30-2011, 01:03 PM
You still have the Y-Pipe around? Your PM box is full...

Reich
05-30-2011, 06:36 PM
You still have the Y-Pipe around? Your PM box is full...


I'm sorry it's mine; )

By the way Seb. Let me know how you want me to pay you.

Sherif
05-30-2011, 08:11 PM
I just discovered that it's not just our inbox we have to clean but also the sent items... just cleaned it, old message with 11secS4 in 2006, and jaybquick in 2007 were still there ;)

Sorry Reich already reserved the Y pipe, I'm having a SB stage 5 available, that's the only thing left I see... let me know how you want to pay Simon I can give you my acces D infos, you could pay to Mike and pick it up @ Rombotis or I can wait to meet you there's no rush for me

car is being tuned since last wednesday.. there was some problem with the Vems tuning... right now car is completely tuned under 6000 RPM I think but past that car make a weird noise and run rich... Mike told me he'd check the cam tensionner today, but honnestly I'm not there and he or Brady would be beter than me to tell you where they are in tuning the VEMS, it suck we have some problems , they just tuned a VEMS on a 5 cylinders big turbo coupe in one day recently... I'll let you know when I'll get more infos

NOTORIOUS VR
05-30-2011, 08:52 PM
car is being tuned since last wednesday.. there was some problem with the Vems tuning... right now car is completely tuned under 6000 RPM I think but past that car make a weird noise and run rich... Mike told me he'd check the cam tensionner today, but honnestly I'm not there and he or Brady would be beter than me to tell you where they are in tuning the VEMS, it suck we have some problems , they just tuned a VEMS on a 5 cylinders big turbo coupe in one day recently... I'll let you know when I'll get more infos

That is very strange... if you guys need help have them send me the config file for the ECU and I'll have a look over it and see if there is something that isn't set right that might be causing this.

Have them check all the ALS settings though.

Sherif
07-04-2011, 10:33 AM
Well this is where I am now...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261500_10150704993420593_717010592_19404190_244435 4_n.jpg

cylinder 2 melted du to a glitch in the VEMS software that pushed the timing advance way too far, can't save the block so I need 2 new pistons and a new S4 block with all the associated gaskets and machining...

JDM EJ1 95
07-04-2011, 11:00 AM
NOOOOO, terrible luck man.


hope for a speedy rebuild

and as far as my tuning dilemma goes.. scratch off VEMS i guess.

NOTORIOUS VR
07-04-2011, 11:42 AM
NOOOOO, terrible luck man.


hope for a speedy rebuild

and as far as my tuning dilemma goes.. scratch off VEMS i guess.

This is what happens when people don't run released firmwares and load on experimental ones.

I've been using and selling vems for over 6 years and never had or encountered this problem.

JDM EJ1 95
07-04-2011, 12:02 PM
This is what happens when people don't run released firmwares and load on experimental ones.

I've been using and selling vems for over 6 years and never had or encountered this problem.


it seems that someone reputable(correct me if im wrong) and knowledgeable Rombotis? is tuning this thing? Id figured they knew the ins and outs of the system so didnt even question user error

davenew
07-04-2011, 03:07 PM
Sorry to hear about the blown engine..

NOTORIOUS VR
07-04-2011, 08:40 PM
it seems that someone reputable(correct me if im wrong) and knowledgeable Rombotis? is tuning this thing? Id figured they knew the ins and outs of the system so didnt even question user error

They might know how to tune a VEMS... but A LOT of people like to use the most recent firmwares (that haven't been officially released) since for the most part they do work fine. BUT, I have never seen or heard of this issue with a stable/released FW version. I have no idea what FW ver. they are using in fact but I'm certain if they are blaming this on a software glitch it isn't from an official release. That or they have the trigger settings wrong and thought they were at say 20 deg. timing but were really @ 25, 30, or more...

The 60-2 trigger arrangement is by far the most popular/common and is very well understood, something like this would have been spotted by someone.

Again, I'm assuming on a few parts as I don't know what happened or what they're using but post #233 already shows they were having issues somewhere...

JDM EJ1 95
07-04-2011, 11:27 PM
interesting.. im kind of intrigued on what exactly the "glitch" was because like you said, there have been a lot of peole using the software and none that ive heard of had any sort of issue like that.. if that was in fact the case no one would use the damn thing if there were software glitches that proved to be fatal in big dollar motors.

NOTORIOUS VR
07-05-2011, 05:37 AM
I've been dealing with VEMS for over 6 years now... I go on to their forums and WIKI at least once a week to keep up to date with what is going on over there, I'm also active on the IRC where quite a few of the developers are...

VEMS is very solid hardware and software wise, but as with any system of this nature there are constant changes going on. You can download experimental versions/updates of the firmware and tuning software at any time. Thing is MOST of the versions should only ever be used on a bench and not in a car. So people choose to take the risk and use it anyway, there is however no knowing what can happen in that branch of code.

So if your setup is worth anything, always stick to an officially released FW version [:)]

Sherif
07-05-2011, 06:12 AM
Tuning was done by Brady @ Dynodoc, a shop adjacent to Rombotis tuning, and honestly I put all my trust in their hands, Brady have tuned many Audis on different stand alone system (including VEMS) and I went with VEMS after having them recomended by Mike and Brady and seing their ECU with PnP harness cost less than half of the 034 EFI system. Brady may take some more time than most tuner to tune cars but that's because he's always on the safe side and don't make agressive moves.

I live at 500 km of where my car is being tuned and I'm french so maybe I don't get everything exactly but... what I understand is that a lot of time was spent to get the knock control working right, most of the problems did comes from the knock control. Marc @ EFIexpress, helped a lot to set the knock control but finally after loading a file sent from Sweden for a half run (2000 to 5000RPM) this arrived. At the end of the run (last 6 secondes) timing was off the requested timing of about 15 degree.

I've already bought a new block... I'll try sourcing the pistons this week. Thing are not set yet as if VEMS are going to cover a part of the cost, but so far Brady, Mike and Marc were all very helpful.

diabolical1
07-05-2011, 09:28 PM
wow. sad (and a little shocked) to see what happened with your engine, but it's good to see you're pressing on.

jibberjive
07-05-2011, 10:40 PM
Wow, heartbreaking to see. Good luck with the rebuild.

chebert69
07-06-2011, 05:27 AM
It's a very sad story, first you're stolen/dispearing clutch then a blown engine, arrrrrrrrrrggggggg ! You're patience and
resilience is far better then mine.
faut être fait fort !
Wish u the best for upcoming plans.

Sherif
07-29-2011, 09:26 PM
I don't know where to start, but the engine rebuild will start shortly, I already have another block and pistons in hands. I just have to find some time to bring all of these to Rombotis in Montreal.

Best news I had so far since a while tonight... VEMS are gonna cover a part of the cost of the rebuild, not all of it but I am happy with the amount they agreed to pay. So they did stand behind their product, everyone I had to deal with there was very helpful. So now is time to get the car back togeter and get some results on the track ;)

bradyzq
07-30-2011, 11:31 AM
This is what happens when people don't run released firmwares and load on experimental ones.

I've been using and selling vems for over 6 years and never had or encountered this problem.

Chiming in here....

Please don't make assumptions about jumping in with beta firmware.

It was an actual released firmware, 1.1.88, and what Sherif described in post 243 of this thread is accurate. Actual timing advanced way past the requested timing in the maps.

The log shows the actual timing, but nowhere in the maps is there any request for the timing to be where it was. It was not a question of base timing being off, nor of timing drift at higher RPM. The log showed the right timing, but NOBODY ASKED FOR IT.

As you can see below, that firmware release has since been withdrawn because of this glitch.

http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=GenBoard%2FUnderDevelopment%2FFirmw areChanges

I am not disputing that you have not seen this problem before. Nobody had. That doesn't mean it didn't happen. Apparently we were the lucky winners....

On the flipside, everyone from EFIExpress (Marc) and those at VEMS have been bending over backwards to try and right this and figure out why it happened, so big [up] to them.

bradyzq
07-30-2011, 12:16 PM
Best news I had so far since a while tonight... VEMS are gonna cover a part of the cost of the rebuild, not all of it but I am happy with the amount they agreed to pay. So they did stand behind their product, everyone I had to deal with there was very helpful. So now is time to get the car back togeter and get some results on the track ;)

It was time for some good news!
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Sherif
07-30-2011, 02:14 PM
thanks you for chiming in Brady

you, Mike and Marc are the best persons to describe what happened, you are the professional in tuning, not me ;)