View Full Version : just purchased '07 A4 2.0T- what mods will NOT void my CPO warranty?
Hey everyone, just bought my first Audi.
It is a CPO car, just wondering what performance mods I can do that wont void my CPO warranty? Looking for a little more power out of this thing.
thanks
titanium3.2
03-08-2010, 04:21 AM
I see this cpo all the time on the site and have no idea what it is but, if the mod has anything to do with the claim then no, your dealer will not cover it under warranty.
yycools
03-08-2010, 04:22 AM
As long the the mod isn't the cause of the particular warranty claim. So if you chipped your car and the motor blew up, the warranty won't cover it. (But thats not gonna happen) I recently got a CPO'd 7 as well, and I already chipped(Revo) and replace the DV, the only other thing I'm thinking about is maybe HFC so I can go stage 2. I'd say chip and mod carefully, and befriending the service manager at your local Audi Dealer, that should make things easier.
p.s. CPO, certified pre-owned, adds another 2 year or 50k of warranty to a qualified Audi, however, warranty visit will have a $85 deductible each time.
Arctic Audi
03-08-2010, 04:26 AM
I see this cpo all the time on the site and have no idea what it is but, if the mod has anything to do with the claim then no, your dealer will not cover it under warranty.
CPO= Certified Pre Owned with a factory warranty.
Well I didn't know if an ecu flash or exhaust would void anything.
Tanner
03-08-2010, 05:41 AM
Key is a good relationship with the service manager, even that, it could go either way. Especially if the turbo blows and they find out or aware that you're chipped. If it's a minor thing like a DV that tore, it's not a big deal in terms of cost to repair.
Charles
03-08-2010, 06:29 AM
Well I didn't know if an ecu flash or exhaust would void anything.
The bad thing about an ECU flash is that the dealer will probably attempt to attribute any problems to that.
Coil pack fails...it was cause the ECU changed a parameter which caused premature failure.
Timing Belt breaks...is was cause the ECU enabled more hp, which put more stress on the TB.
In other words, unless you have a lot of money to fight them in court, more than likely, unless it's blatantly obvious, they're gonna deny coverage based on the ECU.
Like it was said, I'd talk with the head mechanic and the service manager to see their policy. Some dealers don't care and will bill Audi all day long, no matter what. My dealer, on the other hand, is a douche about warranty work and has attempted to deny coverage multiple times.
how much HP is an ECU or chip good for?
Korrect414
03-08-2010, 09:50 AM
how much HP is an ECU or chip good for?
Around 40-50hp.
And an exhaust is worth what, 15 hp if that? Not sure voiding warranty worth 55-65 more hp. Stage 2 takes you to how many hp?
Tanner
03-08-2010, 10:12 AM
Go to APR's website for example and it should all be described there.
And an exhaust is worth what, 15 hp if that? Not sure voiding warranty worth 55-65 more hp. Stage 2 takes you to how many hp?
desmosedici
03-08-2010, 10:21 AM
well generally you pay a premium on CPO because of the warranty. if you intended on voiding it, you could have saved a lot of money buying used else where. i'm in sort of the same boat myself. i just picked up a CPO A4 and i've been contemplating whether to do a chip as well. i mean it seems like APR has their chip kind of designed to get by the dealers... provided your dealer is naive or just doesn't care... but more than that you could always do stage 1 and upgrade to stage 2 or 3 when your warranty expires. who knows though anybody got dyno specs with stage 2? maybe the gains are worth it right away?
p.s. according to APR, the stage 1 can achieve the advertised results on a fully stock set up. stage 2 does not list an exhaust as required hardware as well, just a HFC or test pipe. makes sense, the stock cat is probably some hell of a bottle neck, so doing an exhaust without changing it out will probably not give you a significant upgrade if you're still squeezing the exhaust gases out that small pipe.
Korrect414
03-08-2010, 10:30 AM
Don't worry about a warranty getting voided. The dealers don't go around voiding your entire warranty over a chip. The worst thing that will happen is they will deny warranty work on your car, but only if they can directly link your chip to that part failure or issue. You are taking some risk, modifying a car. You have to pay to play. One major thing to consider is the dealer you are going to. A lot of dealers could really care less about you chipping your car, and probably most the people working there have modded audis and understand. Other dealers may be strict and can hassle you over your mods. Go to some local meets and ask your fellow enthusiasts.
Also, if you are so worried about voiding your warranty, then get a Stasis flash. It's basically a Giac flash and can be done at participating Audi dealers.
http://www.stasisengineering.com/
Thx. I'm on my phone- what is apr website?
yycools
03-08-2010, 10:46 AM
Thx. I'm on my phone- what is apr website?
www.goapr.com
I'm on Revo and have CPO as well, make sure to get all the recall done before chipping. Also if you replace the DV, make sure its the one from the B8, since its an OEM part, there will be no trouble.
Stage 1 and 2 are the same with all vendors, all you need for stage 2 is either a TP or HFC. Stage 1 you're looking at 240-250ish HP, stage 2 is another 10-15% increase. As long as you're careful about chipping (and flash or switch back to stock) when you visit dealer for warranty reasons, you should be good.
oh yeah, both APR and REVO has free trial good for 6hrs or so, it'll give you a sense of the difference.
s-man
03-08-2010, 11:55 AM
things that wont void your warrenty are asethetic and like an rs4 sway bar....the dealer by me is really chill and they told me all the things to not do but also things like the exhaust apparently wont damage your cpo because if the item doesnt lead to any failure with the car then your good. like previously stated, APR has a lockout and available programm for a password to enable the chip
LERecords
03-08-2010, 02:09 PM
my dealer is awesome for service and i asked one of the service advisors about all sorts of mods and he pretty much went down a list with me of things that would void and things that wouldnt.. stereo and "some" astetics they are cool with, but i would still double check with the service manager and possibly try to secure something in writing.. but most of the time just ask someone. once the warrenty is up, i'll chip mine, but until then i enjoy free service and maintainece (minus tires, brakes, and wipers)... but if your dealer is cool about it...