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terraflata
01-21-2010, 04:05 PM
Found a lot of threads with the words "Oil Cooler Delete" but has anyone gotten rid of that POS OEM Oil Cooler? I was looking at aftermarket oil coolers and wanted to know if I could get rid of the stock one or if I am stuck with it. Looking at ETKA just makes me think this won't happen.

-Terraflata

seanriv
01-21-2010, 04:13 PM
The user KyleH has. Big thread on it, search his name.

Kyle H
01-21-2010, 04:15 PM
I did!

I ordered the kit from USRT which included a thermostatic plate and -10 AN lines to go to an external cooler. I ordered a cooler from vwparts.net and got some AN fittings locally.... the cooler is in the stock smic location.

If I were doing it again, I would just buy the thermo plate from a supplier and piece together some -10 AN lines, and mount the cooler like 034 did in their car solid mounted to the bumper support with a hole cut in the bumper for airflow.

edit- wow, I'm getting famous! [:D]

edit 2-
here's the diy I followed
http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng78.shtml

also, the oil temps act funny (it makes sense, it's just weird compared to stock) in my car now. The car has to be moving to cool the oil temps, you can't just let it idle to cool like you used to... but when it's moving, the temps RARELY rise above 200. I'd like to mount a little SPAL fan down there at some point.

edit 3-
http://khphotography3.com/photos/676479391_Z6UmG-L-1.jpg
http://khphotography3.com/photos/707819946_RMHxM-M.jpg

terraflata
01-21-2010, 04:21 PM
I did!

I ordered the kit from USRT which included a thermostatic plate and -10 AN lines to go to an external cooler. I ordered a cooler from vwparts.net and got some AN fittings locally.... the cooler is in the stock smic location.

If I were doing it again, I would just buy the thermo plate from a supplier and piece together some -10 AN lines, and mount the cooler like 034 did in their car solid mounted to the bumper support with a hole cut in the bumper for airflow.

edit- wow, I'm getting famous! [:D]

edit 2-
here's the diy I followed
http://www.audiworld.com/tech/eng78.shtml

also, the oil temps act funny (it makes sense, it's just weird compared to stock) in my car now. The car has to be moving to cool the oil temps, you can't just let it idle to cool like you used to... but when it's moving, the temps RARELY rise above 200. I'd like to mount a little SPAL fan down there at some point.

FUCKING AWESOME! When it isn't moving it doesn't get dangerously high, does it?

Kyle H
01-21-2010, 04:24 PM
Nope, the only time that the oil temps rise is when the car is under load, and it's hard to be under load unless you're moving... If I'm running some canyon roads hard and then stop at a stop sign, they'll rise ~10 but nothing huge. I think getting the oil circulating away from the engine keeps it cool enough even without air passing through the cooler.

terraflata
01-21-2010, 04:29 PM
Nope, the only time that the oil temps rise is when the car is under load, and it's hard to be under load unless you're moving... If I'm running some canyon roads hard and then stop at a stop sign, they'll rise ~10 but nothing huge. I think getting the oil circulating away from the engine keeps it cool enough even without air passing through the cooler.

Yeah I didnt think it would be a problem, besides I never really understood how the stock oil cooler did anything for heat dissapation. I want to get rid of it because I don't want things like oil and coolant mixing together or seals/o-rings busting and bleeding out my oil (Such as Ive heard are common happenings). Also I figured keeping my oil colder, always a great benefit.

- Terraflata

Kyle H
01-21-2010, 05:13 PM
'colder' isn't always what you want. You want to keep the oil in it's best operating range.

The stock cooler has a thin plate with oil on one side and coolant on the other, it transfers the heat from the oil to the coolant, which then runs through the radiator and cools down. It works great until it fails. Shoot me a pm if you have any questions/problems when you're doing the project.

terraflata
01-21-2010, 05:53 PM
'colder' isn't always what you want. You want to keep the oil in it's best operating range.

The stock cooler has a thin plate with oil on one side and coolant on the other, it transfers the heat from the oil to the coolant, which then runs through the radiator and cools down. It works great until it fails. Shoot me a pm if you have any questions/problems when you're doing the project.

Indeed about operating temperature. And thanks a ton, Ill be sure to PM you should I need more info.

-Terraflata

Mike@PureMS
01-21-2010, 08:38 PM
wow this sure brings back some memories..
Did this nearly 9 years ago..
http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=4194&pictureid=12362

Just use our Mocal thermostatic sandwich plate adaptor.
Oil Cooler Plate (http://www.purems.com/products/product.php/II=1568)

You can simply jump the two coolant lines together with a union barb fitting.
Then remove the oil cooler, cut the threaded pipe shorter, and install this sandwich adaptor plate.

Pick up an oil cooler then run the lines to it.
I used a front mounted oil cooler from a BMW E30M3.

RockyMountainB5
01-22-2010, 08:52 AM
^^^
cool setup

fbdohc
01-22-2010, 11:33 AM
wow this sure brings back some memories..
Did this nearly 9 years ago..
http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=4194&pictureid=12362

Just use our Mocal thermostatic sandwich plate adaptor.
Oil Cooler Plate (http://www.purems.com/products/product.php/II=1568)

You can simply jump the two coolant lines together with a union barb fitting.
Then remove the oil cooler, cut the threaded pipe shorter, and install this sandwich adaptor plate.

Pick up an oil cooler then run the lines to it.
I used a front mounted oil cooler from a BMW E30M3.

Sorry for the expression but you are fuc*ed if you want to put an intercooler ..

pzp107
01-22-2010, 11:43 AM
Your also forgetting that oil cooler you got rid of helped bring your oil temp up during cold weather. Looks like you get a hell of a lot of that in quebec so I think you should run them inconjunction. As the problems you speak of are very remote. If you do both at the same time you wont have that issue and you will take care of your idling issue which obviously wouldn't transfer heat well since there is no airflow and your using an air to liquid exchanger.

Blake260
01-22-2010, 01:03 PM
check out my Volvo oil cooler experimentation thread in the S4 forums, there is a very easy and VERY cheap way to do this.


Search my name


\EDIT: nvm i got you:http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328750

Coopa
01-22-2010, 08:38 PM
Hypothetically speaking, say my oil cooler took a sh!t on me already and it just got fixed. What's a decent way of getting in the tights areas and cleaning all the oil off the side of my block.. Hypothetically speaking of course. [rolleyes]

PoormansA4
01-22-2010, 09:02 PM
Sorry for the expression but you are fuc*ed if you want to put an intercooler ..

could always do a upgraded sidemount, unless someone really wanted a front mount.

terraflata
01-23-2010, 09:49 AM
could always do a upgraded sidemount, unless someone really wanted a front mount.

Depends on the size of the front mount, not all front mounts take up the entire front end of the car, in fact MOST don't.


Hypothetically speaking, say my oil cooler took a sh!t on me already and it just got fixed. What's a decent way of getting in the tights areas and cleaning all the oil off the side of my block.. Hypothetically speaking of course. [rolleyes]

Hypothetically, LMFAO. Engine degreaser, and lots of it. The same thing that happened to you had happened to my car before I bought it. I had the convenience of taking my car apart and being able to clean it that way, but it's probably EVERYWHERE in your engine bay, mine was. I t was a BITCH to clean up. Just go pick up some engine degreaser, spray that shit everywhere you can, use a long brush to clean gunked up areas. Let the degreaser do its job but don't let it dry. Then hose that shit off with a pressure washer.

Two warnings, degreasers usually aren't environmentally friendly (The good ones at least) and be careful for electrics.

-Terraflata

JK35
01-23-2010, 10:03 AM
The shop I am now working at keeps a 55gal drum of Zep Brake Wash. we dispense that into these little spray cans, charge it with air pressure and spray it on filthy - leaky areas while blasting with an air nozzle. it cleans VERY well and dries BONE dry very quickly.

(then we often use "tracing powder" which comes in a rattle can, to "paint" the suspect area and can then easily detect leaks)


-brake cleaner is commonly available just about anywhere

djwimbo
01-23-2010, 10:09 AM
Sorry for the expression but you are fuc*ed if you want to put an intercooler ..

False.

Move it above the intercooler/behind the hood grill. A LOT of people have done that with their P/S coolers.

terraflata
01-23-2010, 11:35 AM
False.

Move it above the intercooler/behind the hood grill. A LOT of people have done that with their P/S coolers.

X2 and props for making fruit sexy!

You might like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfMu77sYH4

fbdohc
01-23-2010, 11:45 AM
X2 and props for making fruit sexy!

You might like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfMu77sYH4
didn't get this one lol

terraflata
01-23-2010, 11:46 AM
didn't get this one lol

Check out djwimbo's avatar. [;)]

-Terraflata

fbdohc
01-23-2010, 11:48 AM
Check out djwimbo's avatar. [;)]

-Terraflata
hahaha alright lol

Shhmaudi
01-24-2010, 12:00 AM
I did!
I'd like to mount a little SPAL fan down there at some point.


I did the exact same thing.. Except I did add a fan and I have a switch for it to toggle it on and off from my knee bolster.. Ill get pics of it up soon