B7 price difference (sline vs non)

[hacgumyu]

I hope this is the place to ask,

shopping a used B7, found these:

07 A4 6sp S-line 34k miles $28000 (real sline 18" rim, sport suspens...)
08 A4 6sp base 17k miles $25500

both is same color combo that I like & 6 speed manual & audi Cert.

but I want the S-line exterior look. (like the front bumper lip and xenon light ?...etc)

I will gonna drop & chip it later if I own one.

Question:

Should I get the base A4 above and mod it into a S-line look? plus suspension upgrade...etc How much more I am looking to dump in for this method.

or

Get the Sline just drop & chip + wheels ?


Thanks in advance.[hail]

[A4A4A4]

Get the S-line, you'd be definitely be spending upwards of $3000 trying to convert it.

[CleverA4Name]

Get the S-Line, in the end you will be much more satisfied. I have always believed in spending a little extra money to get something you want rather than settling for something that is a little cheaper.

In retrospect and knowing what I know now about b7s, I wish I would have bought an S-line

[jimrobbington]

Definately get the s-line. Everyone on here who doesn't have one, wishes they did. You will upgrade the suspension regardless, buy you may be able to sell your sport suspension on here.

[hacgumyu]

Definately get the s-line. Everyone on here who doesn't have one, wishes they did. You will upgrade the suspension regardless, buy you may be able to sell your sport suspension on here.

But if the S-line also need suspension upgrade + good looking custom wheels. what's really left there when compare to base ?

[A4A4A4]

But if the S-line also need suspension upgrade + good looking custom wheels. what's really left there when compare to base ?

Steering wheel, front bumper, grille, side skirts, trunk lid. i.e stuff you'll wish you had if you choose to go with the non.[up]

[jimrobbington]

Yep, different front bumper, different trunk, different grille, different diffuser on rear bumper, different steering wheel, possibly a better interior/color combo not offered on non sline. You may not want to upgrade the suspension, but most people on here would. All that right there is at least 3-4 grand

[A4B7Quattro]

IMO: If you are going to upgrade suspension and your front bumper anyways, go for the non sline. If you are not going to upgrade one of the two then get the sline

[event]

Non S-line, it's an '08 with half the miles for 3k less. The only way I'd say go for the S-line is if the standard A4 doesn't have projectors or sport suspension and you're not planning to go aftermarket.

If you were going to drop it past sport anyways and it doesn't have projectors then going S-line and even getting the projectors would likely run you less than 3k, that's on a newer car with half the miles.

DTM is an option too, and more reasonable going from standard to it than from S-line.

[MCT9891]

s-line, if i would've known better I would've gone s-line too.
Now i see an s-line front bumper conversion in the near future haha

[Ramathorn]

I know you aren't asking this but...

28k is too expensive for an '07 IMHO... I got my '07 S-line + manual and fully loaded for $25800 in February last year with 29k miles. I have heard that the demand for these cars has gone up, but can it justify that much of a price difference.

[CleverA4Name]

Non S-line, it's an '08 with half the miles for 3k less. The only way I'd say go for the S-line is if the standard A4 doesn't have projectors or sport suspension and you're not planning to go aftermarket.

If you were going to drop it past sport anyways and it doesn't have projectors then going S-line and even getting the projectors would likely run you less than 3k, that's on a newer car with half the miles.

DTM is an option too, and more reasonable going from standard to it than from S-line.

I never thought of it this way, and now I definitely agree with you Event

+1 for you!


I know you aren't asking this but...

28k is too expensive for an '07 IMHO... I got my '07 S-line + manual and fully loaded for $25800 in February last year with 29k miles. I have heard that the demand for these cars has gone up, but can it justify that much of a price difference.

This is a very good point, I bought my '06 this year for $19,000

[Larson7.62]

I'd go with the 08. It has the S-line exterior, the only things missing are the interior items, which you could get with the money you save. Then you have a newer car with less miles with the S-line package for the same price as that other one.

ETA: Forgot about suspension, but you could get a spring/shock set for around 500-600. You will probably still be under 3000 for the full conversion.

ETA Pt.2: Also forgot about wheels, but if you are going aftermarket, it won't matter anyways.

[tankdeer]

Definitely get the '08.

[hacgumyu]

Yes. I was thinking the 08 A4 base makes more sense if I am going to mod it later.

I just unsure what budget I will need to turn that base model into better than S-Line looking on the exterior.

Does the front bumper + RS4 grill + side skirt + bi-xenon light... gonna cost me a leg or arm if done in shops?


more info on DTM will be helpful, newbies here.

[jimrobbington]

DTM is OEM, but it is aftermarket looking. Better than s-line, more like RS4 styling. The cheapest you could get away with all bumpers, etc.., paintmatched, done well, easily 2 grand. Headlights, to switch to bi-xenon, over 1 grand.

[tankdeer]

All 2008 A4s came with the Sline exterior package. Bumpers and I believe trunklid too. It's not a "true" sline as it doesn't have the suspension, wheels or interior, but bumpers are the same. (I don't think it has the door blades though - could be wrong).

Out of the things you listed the most expensive will be getting OEM bi-xenons. A quick search in the classifies will give you general prices.

[TheHeggi]

The only real plus on the S-Lines are the front bumper, trunk lid, and rear valence IMO. You can do a front conversion for ~$1k, valence for under $100, and I have no clue about the trunk lid...that's the only thing I'm missing lol. If the 08 has all of this, go with that one. Newer, less mileage, and significantly cheaper...why get the more expensive S-Line just to get the parts you're going to replace anyway?

[Tusin]

EASY get the 08. Less miles. Newer. And it does have the S-Line exterior. With that $3k you saved get some PSS9's and a set of wheels.

[AofC_RR]

The 08 already has all the outside aspects of S-line EXCEPT the wheels and suspension. However you never clarified if the 07 has xenons. If it DOES that car has more equipment than just s-line. It will have a power passenger seat, auto lights, auto dimming mirrors, the 2008 would not have those items.
There's pros and cons to both cars. I could ramble on and on about it.
It really boils down to which car you like better and you feel will work best with what you want to do with it.

[Blarg]

S-line for sure, no question!

[AudiCruisn]

non, for the price diff, newer model, and half the miles. most people (non-enthusiasts) wouldn't know the difference anyway.

[Glassnpowder98]

Definitely go with the newer car. You'll have a longer warranty, 08's come with the s-line appearance package, and you are already talking about upgrading suspension (you'd want to upgrade the sport suspension on the 07 anyways).

[MaterialGirlFTW]

If you're not able to talk down the price on either of those... I would definitely keep looking, because that's too much $$$.

I would say get the S-line. As everyone else already said, you can upgrade the suspension later.

I bought a non s-line because the appearance was ok with me... but I definitely wouldn't go through the trouble of getting a new bumper, grille, etc. That's way too much trouble.

If you do coilovers later down the road... the sport shocks are pointless anyway. And if you do sport springs, shocks are only ~$400-$500 anyway. <-- still cheaper than the body work to change the front end on a non s-line.

[Checho]

hmm are you going to mod it?

If so you won't need the Sport Suspension or 18''s, if anything you could only get the S line bumper and call it a day.

[tankdeer]

Seriously? Man people just don't read. BOTH OF THESE CARS HAVE SLINE BUMPERS!!!! One of them is an '08. All 2008 A4s CAME WITH SLINE BUMPERS!!! Wow, I didn't realize this was so confusing. [headbang]

[RandyQUATTRO]

Mileage is tempting on the 2008, but IMO, get a true Sline. There are small things like door inserts, tri-spoke steering wheel and shift nob not to mention the suspension and wheels. Not a big deal, but when you start pricing this stuff, it can get expensive. Notice how true Slines (stock) look clean and sporty without mods. With exception of a chip, you could probably keep your car stock and still be very happy with it. Last, as 6MTs become more difficult to find, there will be an ever increasing market for true Slines with 6MT. If you ever need to sell it, having the ability to run a VIN and KNOW that it is an Sline will only help it's value. Again, just my opinion. Good luck on your decision.

[jriddle11]

Definitely go with the newer car. You'll have a longer warranty, 08's come with the s-line appearance package, and you are already talking about upgrading suspension (you'd want to upgrade the sport suspension on the 07 anyways).

x2, but talk them down on the price.

Good luck!

[jriddle11]

Mileage is tempting on the 2008, but IMO, get a true Sline. There are small things like door inserts, tri-spoke steering wheel and shift nob not to mention the suspension and wheels. Not a big deal, but when you start pricing this stuff, it can get expensive. Notice how true Slines (stock) look clean and sporty without mods. With exception of a chip, you could probably keep your car stock and still be very happy with it. Last, as 6MTs become more difficult to find, there will be an ever increasing market for true Slines with 6MT. If you ever need to sell it, having the ability to run a VIN and KNOW that it is an Sline will only help it's value. Again, just my opinion. Good luck on your decision.

Good points on the steering wheel and shift knob, but with the $3K he saved he can buy a used RS4 steering wheel here with airbag for around $450 and the shift knob from Greg at DTH.

Basically what we are all saying is you can't go wrong with either car, so pick the one you like the best.

[jriddle11]

What options do they have? Do they both have bi-xenons, heated seats, auto dim mirrors, power seats w/memory, home link, Nav, etc? To me that those are the more important choices since the exteriors are the same.

[jriddle11]

Yes. I was thinking the 08 A4 base makes more sense if I am going to mod it later.

I just unsure what budget I will need to turn that base model into better than S-Line looking on the exterior.

Does the front bumper + RS4 grill + side skirt + bi-xenon light... gonna cost me a leg or arm if done in shops?


more info on DTM will be helpful, newbies here.

Here is a thread showing cars with the DTM bumper or full conversion.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=253873&highlight=DTM+owners

[isaackearl]

My vote Non s-line. I agree with what people are saying about less miles and better price for 08. I think the sline is overpriced.

[06B7]

i think you should get the sline

[dodsonjg]

Personally I'd stick with the true S Line but you should also take the options and packages of each vehicle into account before making a decision. Do either have Navi, Xenons, convenience package, blutooth, heated seats, etc etc...

Whether it's an S Line or not really shouldn't be the single deciding factor.

[hacgumyu]

Here is more info on both cars, so I could get better detail votes from you guys. Thanks in advance again.

Both car price is the listed price, not negotiated yet. price might be on the high side, but getting it with my favorite color combo (ex: gray , int: ebony) with 6sp manual isn't easy to find.

07 S-line have premium package + cold weather package.

both car only have xenon, not bi-xenon. no Navi on both.



Oh, and last night i found this at wooping $29800 price tag.... LOL:

Just over 9,000 miles! This A4 the following features and equipment:

--Dolphin Gray Metallic paint
--Ebony Leather interior
--2.0 liter 4 cylinder – 200 horsepower
--6 speed manual transmission
--Bluetooth Phone preperation
Audio Package, including
--Sirius Satellite Radio
--Bose Sound
Convenience Package, including
--Power front seats
--HomeLink
--Rain and Light sensor
--Xenon Headlamps
--Auto-dimming interior mirror with compass
--Memory drivers seat

Now the decision game restarted again. [headbang]

[tankdeer]

No such thing as a B7 with "only" Xenon. They either have adaptive bi-xenon or halogen, no inbetweens.

I still say get the cheaper, newer one.

[schizzy]

i say get the non s-line. i have a non sline (yea i would have loved to have gotten the s-line) but i saved money cuz of my purchase, and have that money to make my car my own, with suspension that im getting, getting my own sideskirts and what not. you know getting what ever painted to make it different than everyone elses..

[blackb7a4]

i think everyone keeps forgetting....

every 08 base has everything exterior (front bumper, side skirts..etc) that the 07 sline has. They made all the 08's have the sline body styling.

So basically, if your going to change the suspension u might as well get the 08. Because the only difference between the two is the suspension,rims, and steeling wheel. So if your going to change the first two, might as well save some money and get he 08. Unless you really want to spend almost the $2-3k more for a different steering wheel.

[philaboy]

[:D] non-S-Lines Rule, S-Line this, S-Line that, what does it matter save your $$$ I did[up][up][up]

[SwassMike]

I've got a non s-line, and I think she's pretty sexy. It's all a matter of taste. Either way, I wouldn't spend nearly what they are asking for either model.

[dodsonjg]

Is the 3rd one you found an S Line and what year? Based on all listed options for the 3 cars I would go for that one. The convenience package is really.......... Convenient! I like it a lot. Don't pay the asking price though especially if it's a non S Line.

You could take a non S Line and make the needed changes but when you go to trade it in or sell it it's still a non S Line no matter how much makeup you put on it. If this is a car you intend on keepin long term then getting a cheaper non sline and making it your own might be a good route but mods add up quick $$$$.

[tankdeer]

I changed my mind. I'm guessing these are all sedans. Pass on them all until you find a nice Avant. [evilsmile]

[ImAuthenticFTW]

This was just the kind of thread i was looking for. I'm looking to get rid of my civic and get into a B7 A4. Dealership near me has a 2008 with 20,8xx miles on it and is asking $26,8xx for the car. They have it marked and advertised as an S-Line which it is not (just the extierior). My question is how much should i aim for gettin this car for. i was thinking maybe 24-25k? seem good or no?

[hacgumyu]

this one is 08 non sline base model. has good options but also most expensive $29.8 K

Oh, and last night i found this at wooping $29800 price tag.... LOL:

Just over 9,000 miles! This A4 the following features and equipment:

--Dolphin Gray Metallic paint
--Ebony Leather interior
--2.0 liter 4 cylinder – 200 horsepower
--6 speed manual transmission
--Bluetooth Phone preperation
Audio Package, including
--Sirius Satellite Radio
--Bose Sound
Convenience Package, including
--Power front seats
--HomeLink
--Rain and Light sensor
--Xenon Headlamps
--Auto-dimming interior mirror with compass
--Memory drivers seat

[Larson7.62]

Hey OP talk to Nico at Barrier in Bellevue I'm sure he will hook you up.

[hacgumyu]

Hey OP talk to Nico at Barrier in Bellevue I'm sure he will hook you up.

Isn't Barrier Audi of Bellevue the most expensive audi dealer in town? what kind of good deal I could get from Nico ?

[Larson7.62]

I don't know, you'd have to call and talk to him. He is a member on this site (SEXICAN) and I bought my car new from him. He'd probably be able to find a used car similar to the other ones for a similar price. That would at least give you more options.

[dodsonjg]

Isn't Barrier Audi of Bellevue the most expensive audi dealer in town? what kind of good deal I could get from Nico ?

From what I have seen Barrier does have the highest listed prices on the
A4's... No offense Nico [:p]

On the other hand I didn't have the opportunity to work with Nico when I purchased either of my A4 S Lines. He has been great in answering all questions I've had though and Barrier in general provided good service [up]

All in all if you are shopping in the Seattle area for a nice low mile B7 S Line get ready to pay and pay a lot. The S Lines have been in high demand which means that the prices have gone up significantly.

Bottom line.... don't settle for something just because it is there and kinda meets your requirements. Be patient and wait for exactly what you're looking for. I'd check with Nico (Sexican) let him know what you're looking for and I'm sure he could let you know when they have one coming in from auction.

Another thing to consider is don't just look in Seattle. Extend your search to include bordering states. That is what I ended up having to do when I replaced my totaled A4. I had about 2 weeks to find a replacement and ended up buying from out of state.

I've seen at least 10 of the S Lines you are wanting on the market within the past few months. Some of them had the TI package which is really sharp! Typically they have been listed in the high 20's and low 30's. Keep your eyes open and be patient. Once you find exactly what you're looking for just be ready to pounce on it!

[Sharkfin]

I'd get the non-s, upgrade to a s-line bumper and buy better aftermarket wheels.

[Larson7.62]

I'd get the non-s, upgrade to a s-line bumper and buy better aftermarket wheels.

omg...

PEOPLE ALL 08's HAVE S-LINE BUMPERS! C'mon, this has been stated numerous times.

[SEXICÄN]

I have different prices for memeber on AZ or any audi forum. If you are looking at a car i have here at Barrier, you need to contact me directly on here or by email..


Yes i have been told that Barrier has higher prices, but i can work out a great deal for people that are interested in a car i have or a car that i might have coming in.

Shoot me a PM if you want me to find you a car

[SEXICÄN]

I don't know, you'd have to call and talk to him. He is a member on this site (SEXICAN) and I bought my car new from him. He'd probably be able to find a used car similar to the other ones for a similar price. That would at least give you more options.


Hey OP talk to Nico at Barrier in Bellevue I'm sure he will hook you up.

Thanks for the nice words


Isn't Barrier Audi of Bellevue the most expensive audi dealer in town? what kind of good deal I could get from Nico ?


If you want to know, you need to contact me...



From what I have seen Barrier does have the highest listed prices on the
A4's... No offense Nico [:p]

On the other hand I didn't have the opportunity to work with Nico when I purchased either of my A4 S Lines. He has been great in answering all questions I've had though and Barrier in general provided good service [up]

I wish i could have worked with you in getting your next car!

[dodsonjg]

^^ Man so do I!! You guys had one I wanted!!!!

That's alright though cuz I'm still pondering the 2010 I was askin you about :)

[Sharkfin]

omg...

PEOPLE ALL 08's HAVE S-LINE BUMPERS! C'mon, this has been stated numerous times.

Relax, of course I already knew that. I was talking if he wanted to get a 05.5, 06, 07 non-s.

[hacgumyu]

I think I wanna settle with a 08 non sline, save couple grands now cuz I still need finance it. then just get wheels & suspension..

Sexican, I will send u a PM soon.

[rbasinal]

That is too much money for both imo. i Bought my 07 S Line 3.2 with 18k miles for $21.5 in Oct. 2009. Now it was not CPO, im not sure how much that would have added to it if it was.

[dodsonjg]

That is too much money for both imo. i Bought my 07 S Line 3.2 with 18k miles for $21.5 in Oct. 2009. Now it was not CPO, im not sure how much that would have added to it if it was.

Either you got a really really good deal, there is something wrong with it, or it is a FWD.

I was looking for an 07 S Line Quattro at that same time and even high mileage low option models were running mid 20's minimum.

[Con]

Either you got a really really good deal, there is something wrong with it, or it is a FWD.

I was looking for an 07 S Line Quattro at that same time and even high mileage low option models were running mid 20's minimum.

he's in cali. probably cvt.

[hacgumyu]

More realistic price I could find is always around 25-27k for 07 Sline & 08 base (lower miles).

[rbasinal]

Either you got a really really good deal, there is something wrong with it, or it is a FWD.

I was looking for an 07 S Line Quattro at that same time and even high mileage low option models were running mid 20's minimum.

Absolutely nothing wrong with it, still in perfect condition but you are right, it is not quattro and not a MT. But I wanted a car I liked and found this one for a great price so im happy. :) Besides, I have my bike as my weekend toy.

[oc-drop]

I'd get the 08 base model and upgrade the suspension asap. half the mileage PLUS more time on the warranty!

quattro is a must however.

[bostonvr6]

Yep, different front bumper, different trunk, different grille, different diffuser on rear bumper, different steering wheel, possibly a better interior/color combo not offered on non sline. You may not want to upgrade the suspension, but most people on here would. All that right there is at least 3-4 grand


This is wrong because the 08' A4 (non-sline) actually comes stock with the S-line appearance package...which is basically an A4 with Sline bumpers front and back and Sline rear trunk lid with the built in spoiler.

But you are only wrong cuz he is comparing 07 to 08. 2007 non-sline did not come with the....uh well...the sline package while the 2008 did.

I vote get the 2008....since ur changing the suspension and wheels anyways (which is the only difference between the two cars you are looking at, oh and steering wheel but i dont find that important)

[dodsonjg]

^^ actually jim was right since a non S Line was never mentioned. The OP was only trying to decide between a 2007 S Line or 2008. A 2007 non s line was not an option.

[gravee]

get the cheaper 08 because you could spend like 3 grand modding it to an s-line and have an s-line with half the mileage...

[Slovak84]

Get the 08 ! I bought a 2008 A4 Quattro 2.0T 8 months ago for $22,500 with 18k. The car has the S-line Exterior package and paddle shifters... Im very satisfied with the car... http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/IMG_03891.jpg

[jeradw]

Get the S-Line, in the end you will be much more satisfied. I have always believed in spending a little extra money to get something you want rather than settling for something that is a little cheaper.


X2

[tankdeer]

Get the S-Line, in the end you will be much more satisfied. I have always believed in spending a little extra money to get something you want rather than settling for something that is a little cheaper.
All well and good, but you need to ask the OP what is it about the sline that he really wants. If it's just the exterior styling, then they both have it. If it's the interior and/or suspension, then he might be better off getting the "real" sline.

[CleverA4Name]

If you read the whole thread, you would see I changed my view [:)]

[tankdeer]

Yeah, I read the whole thing, but post by post, day by day. And I'm far too lazy to go back and re-read it. I was more responding to jeradw than you anyways. [:)]