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EJB
11-17-2009, 05:28 PM
So it has officially begun as the GT2560's (aka GT28r's) have arrived![:D] The motor was already out as I was doing the JHM trans rebuild, Vast stage 3 clutch, and JHM solid linkage/shifter upgrade. Now it's turned into a bit more than that....I'm going to be doing the turbos with custom inlets and custom exhaust, 63lb injectors (already installed as of yesterday), 90mm MAF, and probably custom diy ecu tuning.

I know, I know, why am I not tearing into the motor like I should be...[confused] I dont have the additional cash at the current time as it was difficult enough to fund what I've done so far. I plan on rods, bearings, headwork, etc... maybe in a year or two. I'm sure that even on conservative lower boost I'll have an acceptable power increase over my K03's![drive]

Im really excited and had to make a thread to let everyone in on my project. I'll keep you posted as I make progress... [wrench] So here are some pictures of the progress from the past few weeks!! Dont laugh at my homebrew wooden engine stand. I needed a small platform to work on so I made this thing real quick!

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/CIMG0206.jpg
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/CIMG0179.jpg
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beefives4
11-17-2009, 05:37 PM
LOL @ lower boost...no such thing.

looks good!!

S4NORICE
11-17-2009, 05:52 PM
Looks good. Very interested to see how the GT2560's run on a mild tune... Just curious, are you saying your going to run these on a stock ECU?

RolledMySTi
11-17-2009, 06:02 PM
Great looking build. I very interested to see how the GT2560's work out. Any issues hooking up the new oil and water lines?

haus4
11-17-2009, 06:05 PM
Nice work so far. Im also interested in seeing how 2560s will turn out. Plus its a laser [up]

S4NORICE
11-17-2009, 06:09 PM
Just curious though, what exactly do you mean by "diy ecu tuning".

btw, I think you may be the eliminator guinea pig [up]

AK1RA07
11-17-2009, 07:42 PM
Just curious though, what exactly do you mean by "diy ecu tuning".

btw, I think you may be the eliminator guinea pig [up]

There's a few others running the eliminators.. so I'll say good luck with the fitment! [:D] Keep us updated!

ThePaintballGuy
11-17-2009, 07:43 PM
My guess is he is going to tune it himself.

Josh

EJB
11-18-2009, 04:50 AM
Thanks for all the compliments!


S4NORICE

Just curious though, what exactly do you mean by "diy ecu tuning".

I plan on getting the required equipment/ programs to remap the ecu myself. Check this out for more info...http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269322


RolledMySTi

Any issues hooking up the new oil and water lines?

Oil and Water lines have not presented any major issues so far. The eliminators come with new braided stainless oil line that is flexible and able to be routed as you see fit. Water lines are easy too and use silicone hose. I didnt re-use any of the stock lines except the oil return. I'll try to post a few pictures later in the day.

S4NORICE
11-18-2009, 03:11 PM
I plan on getting the required equipment/ programs to remap the ecu myself. Check this out for more info...http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269322


yup, I've been fallowing that post as well[up]. Again, very interested to see how you make out with this setup.

VinNyS4
11-18-2009, 03:29 PM
looks good goodluck man

Boosted-S4
11-18-2009, 03:50 PM
i need me a kit like that!!

looking good!!!

jibberjive
11-18-2009, 04:55 PM
Nice! Trust me when I say you're going to be kicking yourself for not doing rods while you had it out. I know you're low on cash because of all the stuff that you bought, but if it were me I'd wait and save a little longer and do just rods and new bearings, leave the head and everything else stock. The labor you're doing is worth a couple of thousand dollars to pull everything, and those are big turbos that'll kick in later and kick in hard. Wrong turbo selection IMO if you're going to run those de-tuned at KO4 levels, unless for some reason you want to drive laggy KO4's and enjoy pulling the motor a second time if/when you do rods/etc. Just my opinion though.

jibberjive
11-18-2009, 04:59 PM
And you've already installed all the oil/coolant lines that they supplied for the turbos and there was zero issues on length or anything else? Just double checking cause I've got the same lines and the other people that have installed the eliminators had to modify their lines.

W1CK3D
11-18-2009, 05:08 PM
Where in IL are you located? Glad to hear there is a GT somewhere haha

EJB
11-18-2009, 07:37 PM
jibberjive

And you've already installed all the oil/coolant lines that they supplied for the turbos and there was zero issues on length or anything else? Just double checking cause I've got the same lines and the other people that have installed the eliminators had to modify their lines.

Im working on the oil/coolant lines right now. I have had issues with length of the coolant lines. The passenger side was too long and had to be cut back about 3 inches (not a problem as its just silicone hose). The driver's side is a bit too short and I'll need to lengthen it by a few inches. Not difficult stuff...i've got a few feet of various size silicone tubing on the way that should get the job done. Also, the passenger side turbo/wastegate actuator is really close to the starter! I actually had to turn the compressor housing a few degrees to get clearance.

EJB
11-20-2009, 01:26 PM
Originally, I was going to do this build on the stock s4 internals without upgrading the rods. I've decided that while the motor is out, apart, and I have the time, I should do rods, bearings, rings, and inspect/replace things as needed. So today, I spent a few hours tearing further into the disassembly than I've ever gone before! Here are some pictures.

Those of you that have installed connecting rods, do you have any words of wisdom? Any problems that you encountered with your engine or things to watch out for?

Lastly, what connecting rods would you recommend? My first choice is probably IE, but i've been looking at the Pauter's and Carrillo's. Are they worth the extra cash? Has anyone had problems with their IE's (I've yet to hear of any issues with em)?

THANKS FOR LOOKIN'!! [up]

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RolledMySTi
11-20-2009, 01:40 PM
Looking good so far. How long did it take to get the intake manifold and components off?

EJB
11-20-2009, 01:52 PM
fuel rail and intake manifold are easy once the wiring harness is off. Probably only took 30 minutes to remove em. Just unbolt the fuel rail and wiggle it out with all the hoses attached, then unbolt the manifold and it comes right off, pretty straight forward. Just be careful not to drop anything in the ports or injector holes!!!

EJB
11-20-2009, 01:55 PM
I remove parts with as few disconnections as possible so that when you're assembling things weeks or months later it's easier to remember where things went and in what order. Plenty of notes, plastic baggys, labels, and pictures on my cell phone too!

EJB
11-23-2009, 02:57 PM
So I sent an email to carrillo to see how much a set of rods would cost for the 2.7t. Their website said rods for this engine are considered a "custom" build. I got my reply today...$399 PER ROD with a 5-6 week wait. Needless to say, I don't think I'll be placing an order for those! So after looking at the rest of the available options I've decided that IE's will be fine. Placed my order today.

The engine is just about completely apart. I'm waiting on my poly drive tool from snap-on. I cant get the heads off till I have it.

EJB
11-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Where in IL are you located? Glad to hear there is a GT somewhere haha

I'm near O'Hare.

Evilevo
11-23-2009, 04:24 PM
I personally would spend the cash for the Pauters over the IE rods(I did BTW)

IE rods are heavier than stock and the Pauter rods are lighter than stock.

You always want to remove weight from the rotating assembly if you can.

jibberjive
11-23-2009, 05:11 PM
I personally would spend the cash for the Pauters over the IE rods(I did BTW)

IE rods are heavier than stock and the Pauter rods are lighter than stock.

You always want to remove weight from the rotating assembly if you can.

I haven't weighed my stockers or my IE's yet, but where did you hear that they're heavier than stock? First time I've heard this, so I'm curious.

Evilevo
11-23-2009, 05:12 PM
I haven't weighed my stockers or my IE's yet, but where did you hear that they're heavier than stock? First time I've heard this, so I'm curious.

I was pretty sure either 034 or IE posted this somewhere. Rosten are heavier also IIRC

sean1.8t
11-23-2009, 07:11 PM
Nice! Trust me when I say you're going to be kicking yourself for not doing rods while you had it out. I know you're low on cash because of all the stuff that you bought, but if it were me I'd wait and save a little longer and do just rods and new bearings, leave the head and everything else stock. The labor you're doing is worth a couple of thousand dollars to pull everything, and those are big turbos that'll kick in later and kick in hard. Wrong turbo selection IMO if you're going to run those de-tuned at KO4 levels, unless for some reason you want to drive laggy KO4's and enjoy pulling the motor a second time if/when you do rods/etc. Just my opinion though.

not necessarily true.

he could tune these turbo's to 450whp on (guesstimate here) 18psi and with the later torque spike he wont be in any danger of snapping a rod. the only thing he would need to worry about is making sure the tune is spot on as to not run into any sort of detonation in the higher rpms.

he would be making more than k04 racegas power and he wouldn't be ragging out the turbo's/intercoolers like you do on k04's at ~24psi.


but OP, great job in deciding to do rods at this point. trying to hold back your power thurst is almost impossible when you know with the turn of a knob there could be more.

EJB
11-23-2009, 08:37 PM
jhmotorsports says the IE rods are 12 grams heavier than stock.

EJB
12-04-2009, 03:05 PM
Update:

Finally got my bearings, gaskets, bolts, and etc... for the rod swap/engine rebuild. My IE rods should be here by Monday! Once I have everything here I'm dropping off the rotating assembly to be balanced.

The last week or so has been slow. I couldn't do to much till the parts arrived. Soon the reassembly will begin. [:D] I'll post some pictures when I'm putting it all back together. [wrench]

jibberjive
12-05-2009, 03:14 AM
not necessarily true.

he could tune these turbo's to 450whp on (guesstimate here) 18psi and with the later torque spike he wont be in any danger of snapping a rod. the only thing he would need to worry about is making sure the tune is spot on as to not run into any sort of detonation in the higher rpms.

he would be making more than k04 racegas power and he wouldn't be ragging out the turbo's/intercoolers like you do on k04's at ~24psi.


but OP, great job in deciding to do rods at this point. trying to hold back your power thurst is almost impossible when you know with the turn of a knob there could be more.
What's not necessarily true? What I said was an opinion, so it can't be objectively true or false. If it were me, I'd be kicking myself later down the road if I didn't rods with these big turbos when he had it apart already, considering the money he's already spent for the power. If you're saying that it's not necessarily true when I said, "Wrong turbo selection IMO if you're going to run those de-tuned at KO4 levels, unless for some reason you want to drive laggy KO4's and enjoy pulling the motor a second time if/when you do rods/etc. Just my opinion though," again, it's my opinion and I do believe that if one's intent is to run a GT turbo on a stock block at KO4 racegas level, then he made the wrong turbo selection. I'd have gone with the GT2554 instead if that were the case because there's no point in using bigger turbos that are laggier with higher power potential if you're just going to cap that power anyways. GT2554's will make 450whp on a stock block, and much sooner than the 2560's. I'm glad the OP decided to do rods now though, cause it just makes sense to do it now when you've already done $2k+ worth of labor alone.

And BTW, I'm not saying that what you described isn't true or possible, just restating my opinion that if one were to go that route with these turbos, it'd be a waste IMO because now he'll likely see over 500whp by being able to use these turbo's at their potential with the upgraded rods.[up]

EJB
12-10-2009, 10:18 PM
Got the rods!!! My rotating assembly is being balanced now, should be done sometime next week. Pictures during the install!

QUESTION!!! I have 63lb injectors. I was originally thinking pump gas... What injector size would I need for E85???

jibberjive
12-10-2009, 11:33 PM
Got the rods!!! My rotating assembly is being balanced now, should be done sometime next week. Pictures during the install!

QUESTION!!! I have 63lb injectors. I was originally thinking pump gas... What injector size would I need for E85???

Much bigger than the 63lbers. I'm hoping I will be able to run the 83lb EV14 injectors with E85 on my GT2860-7 setup (smaller turbo than yours), but I'm afraid I'll prob have to go 1000cc.

Mattgfx
12-10-2009, 11:53 PM
this is an awesome build, can you estimate the cost of this? i am trying to save up for a build like this one day.. get my engine back to 0 miles lol

EJB
12-11-2009, 01:45 PM
this is an awesome build, can you estimate the cost of this? i am trying to save up for a build like this one day.. get my engine back to 0 miles lol

Hmmm...a part of me doesn't even want to know what the total is so far!

Trans rebuild - $1200
New clutch - $750
GT Eliminators - $3400
Fuel Injectors - $350
IE Rods - $850
Main and Rod Bearings - $350
Bolts - $150
Seals, Head Gaskets, misc Gaskets - $350
Rotating Assembly Balance - $350
Intake piping, couplers, clamps - $300

Total so far ABOUT $8100.

Remember these are just off the top of my head estimates on what I've bought so far. I've done EVERYTHING myself, so no labor costs (except balancing the rotating assembly)! I will still need to purchase more also. I expect about another 1-2k should finish it up. Tuning would add more also.

jibberjive
12-11-2009, 05:12 PM
Hmmm...a part of me doesn't even want to know what the total is so far!

Trans rebuild - $1200
New clutch - $750
GT Eliminators - $3400
Fuel Injectors - $350
IE Rods - $850
Main and Rod Bearings - $350
Bolts - $150
Seals, Head Gaskets, misc Gaskets - $350
Rotating Assembly Balance - $350
Intake piping, couplers, clamps - $300

Total so far ABOUT $8100.

Remember these are just off the top of my head estimates on what I've bought so far. I've done EVERYTHING myself, so no labor costs (except balancing the rotating assembly)! I will still need to purchase more also. I expect about another 1-2k should finish it up. Tuning would add more also.

Yeah, the small stuff adds up for sure. Just for reference for other people looking at that list, other stuff you'll need/want if you're going from stock are intercooler(s), cat-back, downpipes, new engine/tranny mounts, and you'll need to flesh out the fueling kit (MAF, tune). Crazy how expensive these cars are to build even if you're doing 99% of the labor!

EJB
12-11-2009, 06:06 PM
Yeah, the small stuff adds up for sure. Just for reference for other people looking at that list, other stuff you'll need/want if you're going from stock are intercooler(s), cat-back, downpipes, new engine/tranny mounts, and you'll need to flesh out the fueling kit (MAF, tune). Crazy how expensive these cars are to build even if you're doing 99% of the labor!

OH yea, almost forgot bout the motor, trans, and snub mount. I already have a jhm fmic, forge dv's, and I'm custom making a full exhaust system. Just think how cool its gonna be when it's all done!!! haha[drive]

Mattgfx
12-11-2009, 10:39 PM
since i have a new tranny , stage 4 clutch , stern track mounts, 034 snub. ect ec.t cat back ... and shitting test pipes to gutted dps.

i would want new intercoolers , 3 inch dps and all the other stuff on the list..

ugh like 10k would be a good loan :) .. i would try to do this myself also.. how much labor would u be looking at for a build from like EPL tuning?

wdbdy2000s4
12-12-2009, 05:48 AM
since i have a new tranny , stage 4 clutch , stern track mounts, 034 snub. ect ec.t cat back ... and shitting test pipes to gutted dps.

i would want new intercoolers , 3 inch dps and all the other stuff on the list..

ugh like 10k would be a good loan :) .. i would try to do this myself also.. how much labor would u be looking at for a build from like EPL tuning?

probly pretty close to $5k. It's around $2000-$2500 for motor pull/turbos, plus you gotta pay for the labor to build the motor.

Mattgfx
12-12-2009, 10:09 AM
shit , pulling the engine seems like a bitch.. i know i wouldn't be able to build my motor. i would have to send it out or something.

jibberjive
12-12-2009, 11:23 AM
probly pretty close to $5k. It's around $2000-$2500 for motor pull/turbos, plus you gotta pay for the labor to build the motor.

2nd

MAKK
12-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Good luck with the build! As stated before, just make sure you don't cut corners, it will not pay off in the long run...

Sales@RAI
12-12-2009, 07:51 PM
nice man, you might be the first one to actually make power on eliminators

diabolical1
12-13-2009, 12:21 AM
i say go for it and even bigger kudos for doing it yourself.

EJB
12-17-2009, 02:30 PM
Update: It's gonna be another week or two before I get the rotating assembly back from the engine builder. [headbang] I guess hes got a few guys off for the holidays and they're pretty busy at the moment. So much for a quick turnaround. I was hoping to get back to work, oh well. [:(]

EJB
12-20-2009, 09:04 PM
Got the engine parts back earlier than expected! [:D] I was able to get the bottom end back together. To recap: Stock pistons and rings, IE rods, 034 Coated rod and main bearings, and stock crank. So far so good.

RolledMySTi
12-20-2009, 09:57 PM
PICTURES!!!!!!

EJB
12-20-2009, 11:02 PM
http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3896&pictureid=11375

http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3896&pictureid=11374

http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3896&pictureid=11372

More Pictures in the next few days as things come together further!

RolledMySTi
12-21-2009, 06:08 PM
http://www.polov8.co.uk/images/for-the-love-of-god-moar.jpg

washyourrhands
12-21-2009, 06:26 PM
nice!

EJB
12-23-2009, 11:51 PM
Some more pictures of the progress! Having problems uploading pictures for some reason. Here are a few pictures using my albums...

http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3896&pictureid=11484

http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3922&pictureid=11485

http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3922&pictureid=11486

http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3922&pictureid=11488

http://www.audizine.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=3922&pictureid=11489

Everything's coming together nicely so far![up]

EJB
01-02-2010, 03:29 PM
Where I'm at...got the motor back together (the bulk of it). I've got the heads, intake manifold, timing belt, etc..back on and sealed up. So now the fun part, getting these turbos all hooked up.
Coolant lines - Drivers side - Not a problem. Used a bit of hi-temp silicone hose and what was included with the turbo to make the connections. Passenger side- PITA with the passenger side motor mount, starter, alternator, and exhaust in the way. There's no room! I ended up re-using the stock hard line that snaked it's way through. Interestingly enough, it worked beautifully. The other coolant lines were simple enough and ran up behind the manifold. DONE!
Oil Lines - Simple. The turbos had flexible braided lines and banjo fittings that worked with ease. Oil return lines reuse the stock ones. DONE!
Exhaust - Bolts up to stock exhaust manifolds/downpipes! 1/2 way done! (still need 3in downpipes)
Comp. Intake/out - Working on this right now...The compressor inlet is much bigger than the wimpy ko3's! These turbo's look hungry just sitting there. I'm fabricating up some 2.25in intake piping (from the Y-pipe to the compressor inlet). I'll get pictures up in the next few days as I finish up.
Boost signal/wastegate actuator - Working on a good solution. Very tight area and flexible silicone hose wants to kink. The compressor housing is tapped but uses an m6 thread? Cant find any fittings. Could tap into the outlet pipe if i need to.
Misc - Ordering up plenty of heat shielding products to protect some of the lines from heat/abrasion.

EJB
01-15-2010, 12:10 AM
[:D] Recent pictures of the intake piping. One side is almost complete. Still need to make the diverter valve connection and a vacuum connection. Im just mocking them up right now, I plan on assembling them with head insulation. (not claiming to be a great Tig welder so dont be too hard on me!)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0312.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0311.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0318.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0319.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0317.jpg

The other side progress. Still waiting on some more mandrel bends to finish her up!

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0310.jpg

And Finally, some shots of the 3'' and 4'' materials that will go into making the exhaust! Good times await me, haha!

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0322.jpg

Big F'in mandrel bends!

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0323.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0324.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0325.jpg

Bosch 044 fuel pump in the background! Waiting on the basket and strainer. Cant believe how huge that pump is compaired to the stock one!

Gavin
01-16-2010, 04:59 PM
How big are the compressor inlets on those eliminators? 2"?

titikaka
01-17-2010, 03:06 AM
......The compressor inlet is much bigger than the wimpy ko3's! These turbo's look hungry just sitting there. I'm fabricating up some 2.25in intake piping (from the Y-pipe to the compressor inlet). ....

i believe this is the answer..!?

EJB
01-17-2010, 04:44 PM
How big are the compressor inlets on those eliminators? 2"?

The compressor inlet piping is 2.25''.

Gavin
01-17-2010, 05:27 PM
The compressor inlet piping is 2.25''.

Is the opening on the turbo 2.25"?

EJB
01-17-2010, 08:47 PM
yea, the inlets are 2.25 also.

EJB
01-31-2010, 03:15 PM
Engine was put back into the car for a while to make the downpipes and exhaust. Here are some photos!
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0326.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0328.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0329.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0331.jpg

Drivers Side Downpipe with 3'' V-Band
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0337.jpg

Passenger Side Downpipe with 3'' V-Band
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0338.jpg

The Y-Pipe with Flex joints being fitted
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0340.jpg

Downpipes FINISHED!!! (with exception of 02 sensor bung)
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0341.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0343.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0345.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0347.jpg

My new boost gauge with higher psi capability (old one only went to 20psi)
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0349.jpg

Inlet pipe (Passenger side)
http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0342.jpg

PinoyS4
01-31-2010, 04:16 PM
nice and clean. good work[up][hail]

jibberjive
01-31-2010, 06:23 PM
Are you fabricating those yourself? Nice job either way!

EJB
01-31-2010, 06:33 PM
^^ Yes sir, fabricated and welded by me.

RolledMySTi
02-01-2010, 09:13 AM
Good shit! Keep it coming.

streetspeedin
02-01-2010, 07:19 PM
Dang that is some nice handiwork. Maybe you should consider zip-tying the B5 motor into that little T-Bucket just for a spin around the block :)

JK

[headbang]

I bore witness to this monstorsity of a car. -Dan

EJB
02-01-2010, 11:05 PM
Dang that is some nice handiwork. Maybe you should consider zip-tying the B5 motor into that little T-Bucket just for a spin around the block :)

Haha! Gonna put a 383 (450hp) crate motor in it. It's gonna be fast cuz it's so damn light.

EJB
02-11-2010, 12:46 PM
The motor is going back in!!! I have two quick questions.

#1. I forgot to mark my half shafts left and right...opps. Does the longer one go on the drivers side or passenger side?
#2. I'm having a hell of a time bleeding the slave. I did not remove the slave from the trans when I pulled the motor, I disconnected the line going in instead. Now I'm having problems getting all the air out of the system. It doesn't seem to be pulling any fluid through. Any have ideas? I tried a power bleeder (applied vacuum) still no luck!

BlackS4TT(Josh)
02-11-2010, 01:03 PM
Awesome work man! Question though... Are you going to have to pull the motor do change the valve cover gaskets? Those inlet pipes look like they'd be in the way.

EJB
02-11-2010, 05:45 PM
I just put all new gaskets and seals on the heads so hopefully that wont be for quite some time. If I have any problems I made sure that the connection by the turbo inlet is not super tight. Its enough to create an airtight seal but yet allow the pipe to be rotated to create clearance by the valve covers.

EJB
02-12-2010, 03:42 PM
Motor install is a PITA! I'm almost done though. I figured out the proper location of the drive shafts and was able to bleed the slave (FINALLY). Looking forward to hooking up all the wiring again...probably tomorrow! I cant wait to get this thing running in the next few weeks!!!

Side note: I've decided to get the Eurodyne Maestro Tuning Suite. It comes with a baseline tune and will give me the ability to read, flash, tune, and log all from one program. We'll see how it goes. It's more expensive then what I was originally planning on doing which would use a number of programs (KWP 2000+, Tuner Pro, ECUx, etc.).

Pictures probably later tonight.

will175
02-12-2010, 03:47 PM
Wow that sounds bad ass tuning software. Cant wait to see your set up finished, exact same turbo choice I was going for. Big Thumbs up.

BlackS4TT(Josh)
02-12-2010, 06:06 PM
^^ Yes sir, fabricated and welded by me.

Looks really good! How long have you been welding? And what kind of welder?

hellrot98m3
02-16-2010, 12:24 AM
wow i just bought some eliminators and will be using this thread as a reference for sure. maybe i will end up doing the rods while the engine is out haha

Quattro_2.7tt
02-16-2010, 08:06 PM
i am just amazed by everyone's builds! Great work man. I still can't decide which turbos I want to use but these are looking good!

EJB
02-25-2010, 06:52 PM
ALMOST DONE! Motor is back in and had her running a few days ago. Sounds great so far. I still need to tie up a few loose ends, hopefully, by the end of the weekend. I made some 2.25in bi-pipes. (driver side bi-pipe not totally done yet)

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0379.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0383.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0382.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0380.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0384.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0387.jpg

http://i927.photobucket.com/albums/ad120/eblezien/GT2560%20Build/CIMG0385.jpg

EJB
03-08-2010, 08:09 PM
Phase 2: Tuning

Everything is back together, finally! No major roadblocks along the way. As mentioned previously, I've had the car running and I currently have 85 miles put on so far. My first impressions: VERY HAPPY! The engine/trans mounts are nice and firm, more vibration but not annoying. The clutch feels great, still breaking it in obviously so we'll see what it's like in a few hundred miles. My exhaust ended up with a borla XR-1 race muffler and a Vibrant at the rear. No cats, 3'' dp's to single 4''. It has a note that means business! I've only revved her up to 4k though. I think it's gonna scream when I really get on it.

Now the good stuff! The GT's drive really really NICE! If anyone wanted this setup as a daily driver I think it would be great. I feel like it has more power just putting around off-boost than before. Plenty to keep up with traffic and get where you gotta go. The boost threshold seems to be just above 2k rpm, and that's at part throttle (should be tested at full throttle). The turbo's seem like they're gonna be really responsive! Right now, I'm sorting out some issues with the Eurodyne programming and I'm going to begin logging and tuning soon. My base file needs some tweaking,I've got an issue with boost oscillation. I've only seen roughly 7psi so far before I lifted.

I'll try to get some video's posted up in the near future.

RolledMySTi
03-08-2010, 08:19 PM
Sounds good so far. Keep us posted about the boost response and street drive-ability.

washyourrhands
03-10-2010, 03:25 PM
nice!

cant wait to see results

EJB
04-02-2010, 09:07 PM
quick update: Been a while, sorry for the delay. I hate the effing cam setup on these cars! My driver's side intake cam was off one tooth. It had been throwing a code. NO bent valves or anything so I'm happy about that!!! I've got it apart right now resetting the cam timing then she'll be back on the road.

Also, I've been debugging some minor issues with the eurodyne setup. Chris has been really good to work with and very quick responding to emails! Once i fix this cam issue I can continue where i left off.

BlkdoutS4
04-05-2010, 06:21 PM
damn dude, you do some very nice fabricating! nice build..

Jurjen
04-07-2010, 04:51 AM
Did you make the FMIC piping yourself? what diameter did you go with?

EJB
04-07-2010, 07:08 PM
Did you make the FMIC piping yourself? what diameter did you go with?

FMIC is from JHM. The piping came with it.

Resolved the cam timing issue. PITA to fix though!!! I had to pull so much shit off to move the driver's side inake cam one tooth. I'm happy to say that the damn boost oscillation is now gone! Its been rainy in chicago so i didnt get to drive more than a few miles since fixed. More to come in the next few weeks...

UkuRiSh
05-12-2010, 08:56 PM
Nice work man :) , ware are you goin to tune ?

Sales@RAI
05-12-2010, 09:16 PM
awesome

s4andtls
05-15-2010, 10:01 AM
Very impressive, good work

Raacerx
08-16-2010, 12:29 AM
Whatever happened with this? Ive been looking at it to get ideas for my own 2560's im doing right now.

hellrot98m3
08-16-2010, 10:34 AM
numbers?

hellrot98m3
09-15-2010, 08:48 PM
numbers? updates?

titikaka
09-18-2010, 07:31 AM
up...?? :)

hellrot98m3
09-21-2010, 10:46 PM
numbers? damn come on haha

Don Supreme
09-22-2010, 11:22 AM
man, its hard to see project from start to end around these parts.

EJB
12-02-2011, 07:33 PM
very sorry to say, i dont have numbers. I haven't been on the forum in quite a while...so sorry again for the loooooong delay. I dont have any numbers cuz I kinda ran out of funds and havent dyno'ed it. The car runs and drives really nicely now. I've just kinda left it after I got the little issues sorted out. As far as anyone thinking about elim's....they didn't just bolt right up as they said they would. Maybe it's different now, i dont know? As far as 2560's, I dont have any complaints. Off boost, just cruising around, it has plenty of power...step on it and hold on.

UkuRiSh
12-03-2011, 04:01 PM
Congratulation Man, so who tune youre car ? what boost are you running ?

DiscoPotato
10-28-2013, 01:24 PM
Updates?