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GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 02:40 PM
New build:
Goal: 9.8 @ 145 mph
700 whp on 94 octane
800 whp on race gas

New engine:

3.0L ENGINE:


Turbo kit:

Agtronic Custom single 6765 presision kit

Precision FMIC

Hybrid exhaust


Tranmission:

URS4 % speed 01e with high bias torsen 4:1

Jurjen
11-15-2009, 02:41 PM
Right on! Subscribed :D...I look forward to the information and photos you will be posting over the duration of this build!

FrankA6
11-15-2009, 02:46 PM
awesome, i can't wait to see this!

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 02:46 PM
Provided By Johnny Bravo himself...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/R770b.jpg

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 02:47 PM
First one is too big, sorry...

sean1.8t
11-15-2009, 02:50 PM
do these 770's have extended tip wheels?

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 02:55 PM
Transmission:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/dogbox3.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/dogbox2.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/Dogbox.jpg

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Manifolds:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/dom4034.jpg

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 03:00 PM
do these 770's have extended tip wheels?

YUP, billet wheels...

47 lbs each...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/3557159957_813986a368_o.jpg

SummitS4
11-15-2009, 03:00 PM
so sick!!! can i have the old setup?....please? lol

hoosierchemist
11-15-2009, 03:02 PM
Manifolds:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/dom4034.jpg

[eek][o_o]

that's purdy

sean1.8t
11-15-2009, 03:14 PM
YUP, billet wheels...

47 lbs each...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/3557159957_813986a368_o.jpg

excellent! i knew Johnny would do you right

Mrsfourrings
11-15-2009, 03:15 PM
New build:
Goal: 9.8 @ 145 mph

Same engine:

3.01L ENGINE:
Maybe cat cams...
Maybe custom intake


Turbo kit:

Tial R770 Custom with Agtronic Motorsport Manifold
Tial 38mm external Wastegates

Tranmission:

Par engineering Dogbox with custom ratios...
1-2-3-4 dog engagement
5-6 soctk Audi gears.


Love the start of the thread....GOAL 9's [up]

Sherif
11-15-2009, 03:20 PM
so sick!!! can i have the old setup?....please? lol

Sorry! you're too late ;)

Great build again Dom, another giant leap for the audi community!
I'll come back every day to see how it progress!

oh, weren't you supposed to go with special garret GT2868? what made you change for the tials?

dla79
11-15-2009, 03:24 PM
Dom looks awesome! I can't wait to throw in your built tranny so I do not have to worry about my TIAL power :-)

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 03:25 PM
Sorry! you're too late ;)

Great build again Dom, another giant leap for the audi community!
I'll come back every day to see how it progress!

oh, weren't you supposed to go with special garret GT2868? what made you change for the tials?

2868 it just so a rumor oout there... No such turbos...[;)]

SourDieselS4
11-15-2009, 03:26 PM
http://dayandadream.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/jizzinmypants.jpg

[hail] Those turbos look awesome...

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 03:30 PM
I will try to reach as close as possible 700whp on pump 94 octane.

SourDieselS4
11-15-2009, 03:34 PM
Keep it up dom[up] i have alot of respect for you, cant wait to see what you so in 2010.

Sherif
11-15-2009, 03:45 PM
any more spec on these tials Dom?

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 03:48 PM
They are R770 cartridges with tial Vband 0.64 turbine housings and custom machined stock compressor housings from GT2860rs...

Jake39454
11-15-2009, 03:50 PM
How much for all the transmission work? PM me if you don't want to post it [up]

AudiSportB5S4
11-15-2009, 03:55 PM
Awesome.. good luck with the build! Better come down to Waterfest again next year. Make sure you have your PULLEYs all checked out ! :)

DJSticky
11-15-2009, 04:22 PM
Looks like an adventure yet again! Looking forward to the results.

bigern45
11-15-2009, 04:29 PM
so does the dog box style trans have fairly good dd characteristics, or is it gonna be driven mostly at the track?

dla79
11-15-2009, 04:33 PM
Dog box is typically only for the track. You better get some padding to keep that noise down if you are going to DD :-)

espo4442
11-15-2009, 04:34 PM
How do i become a regional rep for GURU drinks so that I can do builds like yours? lol

revhards4
11-15-2009, 04:43 PM
sniff sniff...do I smell a TIAL sponsorship?

Evilevo
11-15-2009, 04:50 PM
Manifolds:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/dom4034.jpg

Do i spy my turbo kit? [up]

Cant wait to see it finished!

O and the GT2868s arent a rumor, they just dont come from garrett that way [evilsmile]

DJSticky
11-15-2009, 05:01 PM
Dog box is typically only for the track. You better get some padding to keep that noise down if you are going to DD :-)

That and "yea I'm not to bad at heel toe" doesn't cut it any more. This leads to you sounding like your leg is to short to push the clutch all the way in ><

Sherif
11-15-2009, 05:09 PM
sniff sniff...do I smell a TIAL sponsorship?


this would be great for him!

A4Rob
11-15-2009, 05:24 PM
this would be great for him!
and deserved.

washyourrhands
11-15-2009, 05:35 PM
SICK

*Blue-Angel*
11-15-2009, 06:42 PM
Par makes awesome gears. glad you bought from them. Strong Strong. THey are costly but worth every single penny. You wont be disappointed.

S4-ORCE
11-15-2009, 06:59 PM
Siick

RolledMySTi
11-15-2009, 07:23 PM
That is one hell of a race car you are building. Can't wait to hear it.

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 07:31 PM
This thing is still gonna be street driven... It's not yet a race car...

washyourrhands
11-15-2009, 07:40 PM
This thing is still gonna be street driven... It's not yet a race car...

damn!

good luck with that lol

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 07:42 PM
Dogbox is really not hard to drive...

Who cares about a gear noise...

dla79
11-15-2009, 07:49 PM
Hahaha. That would be once crazy GURU delivery car ;-)

washyourrhands
11-15-2009, 07:58 PM
Dogbox is really not hard to drive...

Who cares about a gear noise...

yeah i have no idea

i actually like gear noise and any noise the car can make

like the r15, but with a exhaust note=]

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 08:08 PM
It's like driving a Civic at 60mph in reverse...

Reich
11-15-2009, 08:11 PM
Guru is the man.
Good respect for you Dom.

I guess i'll have to be here every day to see that beast.

S-Power
11-15-2009, 08:15 PM
No luck with the V-Box times with your first kit

Maybe with this kit, it will be a different story!!

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 08:16 PM
Guru is the man.
Good respect for you Dom.

I guess i'll have to be here every day to see that beast.

Thanks man, more crazyness to come in my last Audi developement year before switching to the upgraded sister brand... Porsche[:)]

Reich
11-15-2009, 08:21 PM
Thanks man, more crazyness to come in my last Audi developement year before switching to the upgraded sister brand... Porsche[:)]

Please tell me that you gona keep your s and not switching it or a porsche.


Maybe you can keep the S and buy a P, if you'll have anough room in your driveway[>_<][:p]

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 08:24 PM
Comparaison between My R770 and a hta3586

than to a gt2860rs
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/R770.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/mr2sc/GT28RS_compressor.jpg

Reich
11-15-2009, 08:34 PM
Why do you have that big turbo? Did you had an other project in mind?

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 08:39 PM
Why do you have that big turbo? Did you had an other project in mind?

I think it's Johnny Bravo's kitchen...[;)]

Ringlord will probably switch his gt3582 in favor of this turbo tho...[;)]

We fell in love with billet compressor wheels[race]

Reich
11-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Wow.

Jake39454
11-15-2009, 08:43 PM
I will be using a 3586 and 40psi+ to hit my goal of 700whp in my A4, the fact that you can get over 80lbs/min out of these 35R framed turbos is amazing. Billet wheels ftmfw!!!

And Dom, pretty please! I'm very interested...


How much for all the transmission work? PM me if you don't want to post it [up]

sfored
11-15-2009, 09:16 PM
i gotta ask - is your goal to make power only at 94 oct ? or just make power ? reason i ask (*flamesuit on*) - never saw final #s from the first setup on full potential .. b eit on meth .. race gas etc...


what happened ? turbos blew ? ran out of steam (uptop?) ? something else gave ? why take something that was working for you (and well) and scrap it ...just because?

TravS4
11-15-2009, 10:06 PM
It's like driving a Civic at 60mph in reverse...

lol, minor gear noise.

Play it off as supercharger whine [;)]

GURUMAN
11-15-2009, 10:08 PM
I blew 1 turbo that survived the carnage from last years destruction.

Over las winter I've changed only 1 cartridge and had the other one check out.

It ran fine for a couple of months, but was weaker than othe turbo...


Never was able even with my wastegates closed to go over 29psi...

Boost was always aroud 26 to 27 psi by redline.

morris400
11-15-2009, 11:29 PM
nice counter... lol , gppd luck with the build cant wait
Comparaison between My R770 and a hta3586

than to a gt2860rs
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/R770.jpg
http://www3.sympatico.ca/mr2sc/GT28RS_compressor.jpg

TravS4
11-16-2009, 03:12 AM
I'd rather have those turbos than food on my counter

Blake260
11-16-2009, 08:16 AM
Hahaha. That would be once crazy GURU delivery car ;-)

for people who need energy...NOW!!

zerb
11-16-2009, 08:51 AM
dom, youre build continues to be one of the most ridiculous on the interwebz and i cant wait to see this thing haul balls next year at waterfest. [drive]

wdbdy2000s4
11-16-2009, 11:53 AM
damn Dom, you're not waisting anytime. Good luck withthe build. Can't wait for the results. waterfest this year?

Alex@Europrice.us
11-16-2009, 12:41 PM
Wow great stuff, good luck!

sean1.8t
11-16-2009, 06:27 PM
It's like driving a Civic at 60mph in reverse...

with all the other noises your car makes what's one more, right.

is your fuel pump loud?

GURUMAN
11-16-2009, 06:30 PM
with all the other noises your car makes what's one more, right.

is your fuel pump loud?

The Aeromotive is Badass...LOL

Jake39454
11-16-2009, 06:53 PM
Which Aeromotive do you run?

AudiSportB5S4
11-16-2009, 06:57 PM
I'd rather have those turbos than food on my counter

LOL... X2. [race]

GURUMAN
11-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Not my counter, it's Jonny Bravo's

mine is Quartz, LOL...

All in style, bro...

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/6450_109417297771_515577771_2263231.jpg

Jake39454
11-16-2009, 09:21 PM
Damn man, I feel like you are purposely avoiding my questions [:(]

GURUMAN
11-16-2009, 09:27 PM
Damn man, I feel like you are purposely avoiding my questions [:(]

Check your PM's

antoanS4
11-16-2009, 10:22 PM
Hey Guru do you really thing you can make more power with those turbos, the look smaller than the ones you used to have to me, maybe im wrong

B5stgIII
11-16-2009, 10:36 PM
Jesus... Subscribed

GURUMAN
11-17-2009, 06:01 AM
Hey Guru do you really thing you can make more power with those turbos, the look smaller than the ones you used to have to me, maybe im wrong

I agree turbine housing looks more compact, but it's the way tial makes them.

They flow more than 20% compared to my GT2860RS [>_<]

joemomma
11-17-2009, 07:26 AM
Hey guru if you dont mind me asking how much did you pay for the dogbox?? PM if you dont feel like posting here.

APBS4
11-17-2009, 11:06 AM
what are the similiarities between these r770 turbos and the basic ones your everday person would get if they ordered a r770 kit from bravo?

obviously if i ordered a kit, i cant expect to make the same power...

Johnny Bravo
11-17-2009, 11:46 AM
what are the similiarities between these r770 turbos and the basic ones your everday person would get if they ordered a r770 kit from bravo?

obviously if i ordered a kit, i cant expect to make the same power...

The reason they are still called R770's is because inside they are the Same turbos that are used in the R770 Kit. His configuration of this system brings it outside the realm of the original bolt on product design. The power potential will be greater due to the larger turbine AR that he selected, but that is a trade off against the faster spooling smaller AR of the original system. Secondly he no longer has the internal waste gates, and will have to use external gates. To call it a Kit, is misleading. Since if you wanted to replicate Dominicks hardwork you would have to go with the same, manifolds, downpipes, and wg's that he made. In contrast the R770's are originally designed to be bolted on to the Stock, or stock replacement manifolds.

This is the original configuration for the R770's, S605.
If its not clear from the Images already, Dom has different compressor covers, and the turbine housings for his setup are the TiAL SS v-bands.

http://gallery.avivascience.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=103&g2_serialNumber=4

dougyfresh
11-17-2009, 02:36 PM
How much for all the transmission work? PM me if you don't want to post it [up]

This (http://www.par-engineering.com/sections/products/products.aspx?typeId=gearsets&manId=audi) will give you a rough idea.






Very Nice Dom. Not wasting anytime.

Wizard-of-OD
11-17-2009, 09:43 PM
[up]
Good luck ....my fridge needs restocking.[:p]

Iosilver
11-17-2009, 09:45 PM
I knew all those Guru energy drinks I bought were for a good cause. Time to buy another case. Good luck man.

Grim420
11-18-2009, 07:22 AM
I want a set of R770

sean1.8t
11-18-2009, 10:12 PM
Besides the Turbine Housing, Which I can configure either way per customers order, they are identical to the other R770 turbos built for previous and future orders.

* that last comment may have been unclear. I would like to expand:

The reason they are still called R770's is because inside they are the Same turbos that are used in the R770 Kit. His configuration of this system brings it outside the realm of the original bolt on product design. The power potential will be greater due to the larger turbine AR that he selected, but that is a trade off against the faster spooling smaller AR of the original system. Secondly he no longer has the internal waste gates, and will have to use external gates. To call it a Kit, is misleading. Since if you wanted to replicate Dominicks hardwork you would have to go with the same, manifolds, downpipes, and wg's that he made. In contrast the R770's are originally designed to be bolted on to the Stock, or stock replacement manifolds.

If there is ANY confusion about this.. just ask.

This is the original configuration for the R770's, S605.
If its not clear from the Images already, Dom has different compressor covers, and the turbine housings for his setup are the TiAL SS v-bands.


so the R770's already come stock with the billet extended tip wheels?

gearhead1186
11-18-2009, 10:23 PM
i wish the regular kit 770s werent as expensive.. i woulda gotten them instead of my 605s im waiting on. my car is being built to handle the 770s. rods, 2.8 heads... I guess if i ever find a set in somebody's recycling I can pick em up and swap em in.

Johnny Bravo
11-19-2009, 12:41 AM
so the R770's already come stock with the billet extended tip wheels?

Actually neither of the kits come with "extended tip wheels". That ingenious marketing term belongs to Borg Warner.

Both the s650 and R770 use a specially developed compressor wheel, that also happens to be "billet" or fully machined from aluminum.

sean1.8t
11-25-2009, 05:34 PM
Actually neither of the kits come with "extended tip wheels". That ingenious marketing term belongs to Borg Warner.

Both the s650 and R770 use a specially developed compressor wheel, that also happens to be "billet" or fully machined from aluminum.

i know it's BW's marketing term. but it's a technology that is in multiple company's products right now.

but i was just curious, because from what i can gather only the CHRA in Dominicks turbos are the same as the Tial R770s.

and the difference's would be the turbine housing and change of WG's.

so the 770's are exteneded tip wheel but the 605's are not?

thanks for addressing my questions.

Korben007
11-26-2009, 10:58 PM
do the tials have any HTA technology like Forced Performance is putting out. There HTA GT35R vs the Standard GT35R is just amazing. 500rpm sooner spool and 50+hp. Its a win win tech for sure!

Johnny Bravo
11-26-2009, 11:12 PM
i know it's BW's marketing term. but it's a technology that is in multiple company's products right now.

but i was just curious, because from what i can gather only the CHRA in Dominicks turbos are the same as the Tial R770s.

and the difference's would be the turbine housing and change of WG's.

so the 770's are exteneded tip wheel but the 605's are not?

thanks for addressing my questions.

Not really. Although the tips of the exducer may be slightly proud of the base of the compressor wheel contour, the tips do not extend into the diffuser area like the diagrams ive seen about "extended tip tech".

There is NO advantage to extended tip compressor, over a standard design where the areo is fully married with the bottom of the hub. Unless your trying to fit a larger compressor wheel into a CHRA that can not be machined to fit a larger compressor hub. Since this is not the case, the entire compressor trim can be machined into the CHRA ( Chra also gets modified ) there is no need for the Fin tips to be proud of the base.

NYCVR6
11-27-2009, 05:40 PM
Man, Mr. Money bags... Another sick build!! You'll love the billet comp wheels.. I love my precision 6765

GURUMAN
11-27-2009, 05:42 PM
Man, Mr. Money bags... Another sick build!! You'll love the billet comp wheels.. I love my precision 6765


Look who's talking [;)]

Ya man, I cant wait to get that 10 lbs a turbo more, all that in the same skin [:D]

Tech/Sales@VAST
11-27-2009, 05:47 PM
Look who's talking [;)]

Ya man, I cant wait to get that 10 lbs a turbo more, all that in the same skin [:D]Exactly what does this mean? More boost doesn't always translate into more power, nor does the peak rated flow of a comp wheel. That does seem like a nice wheel though.

NYCVR6
11-27-2009, 05:54 PM
Exactly what does this mean? More boost doesn't always translate into more power.

Im assuming he means FLOW not BOOST..

NYCVR6
11-27-2009, 05:55 PM
Look who's talking [;)]

Ya man, I cant wait to get that 10 lbs a turbo more, all that in the same skin [:D]

This coming season we have to meet up again... [up]

GURUMAN
11-27-2009, 05:55 PM
Im assuming he means FLOW not BOOST..

After all this, some oof you guys think I'm still a NOOB [>_>] [evilsmile]

GURUMAN
11-27-2009, 05:57 PM
This coming season we have to meet up again... [up]


Dude the car is so driveable, I'll drive down...[>_<]

NYCVR6
11-27-2009, 05:59 PM
Dude the car is so driveable, I'll drive down...[>_<]

Awesome man, should be a fun season coming up.

Tech/Sales@VAST
11-27-2009, 05:59 PM
Im assuming he means FLOW not BOOST..haha I hope so

Evilevo
11-27-2009, 06:16 PM
After all this, some oof you guys think I'm still a NOOB [>_>] [evilsmile]

LOL, Dom is a NEWB!!! Just like me [>_<]

revhards4
11-27-2009, 09:47 PM
why are these call Tial 770r's when they are not the 770r's? They have a completely different turbine housing? Is it just the internals of the turbo's are exactly identical to eachother besides the V-band turbine housing?

Johnny Bravo
11-27-2009, 11:20 PM
? Is it just the internals of the turbo's are exactly identical to eachother besides the V-band turbine housing?


Yes. The internals are exactly identical to each other.

Das General
11-28-2009, 11:20 AM
Actually I have influenced Ringlord (the brain behind my car) to get these R770 in the ''regular'' turbine housings for stock manifold.

The guy will go 2.8L with Tial R770 on a custom tune, so we can have our own in House comparaison potential wise of these little turbos...

He is getting rid of his single setup?

GURUMAN
11-29-2009, 12:26 PM
NEW name for my kit:

GT1000

I think it's sounds really nice...

Trigger Happy
11-29-2009, 03:22 PM
NEW name for my kit:

GT1000

I think it's sounds really nice...

lol sounds great.

washyourrhands
11-29-2009, 03:38 PM
lol

StuntManMike
11-29-2009, 04:21 PM
with all the work going into your trans why not extend 6th gear?

even with my stage 2 car I wish I could have a longer 6th to drop rpm's while cruising.

wouldn't it make sense while changing almost all your gears anyway to address this issue? or are you keeping 5th and 6th so close together for some other reason?

jibberjive
11-30-2009, 03:34 AM
Good luck Dom! You're going to be tearing it up next year.

Don Supreme
11-30-2009, 07:56 AM
with all the work going into your trans why not extend 6th gear?

even with my stage 2 car I wish I could have a longer 6th to drop rpm's while cruising.

wouldn't it make sense while changing almost all your gears anyway to address this issue? or are you keeping 5th and 6th so close together for some other reason?

Your logic is inverse. The bigger turbo will spool later than your stage 2. If he extends the 6th gear, the cruising RPM will be much lower and therefore further out of the power band (possibly below boost threshold) during normal driving. The driver will either have to push the gas and wait for spool or down shift.

I doubt DOM is looking to make a hybrid, super efficient cruise mobile.

shorterthanrich
11-30-2009, 01:31 PM
Your logic is inverse. The bigger turbo will spool later than your stage 2. If he extends the 6th gear, the cruising RPM will be much lower and therefore further out of the power band (possibly below boost threshold) during normal driving. The driver will either have to push the gas and wait for spool or down shift.

I doubt DOM is looking to make a hybrid, super efficient cruise mobile.

I don't see how this logic is inverse...I doubt anyone is racing through 6th gear...

It makes perfect sense to extend your 6th gear in this case. Not that he has to or anything, but if he felt like doing it...it would make sense.

Boost threshold? It doesn't really matter if your 6th gear is further out of the powerband unless you're racing through 6th, IMO.

Don Supreme
11-30-2009, 01:34 PM
I don't see how this logic is inverse...I doubt anyone is racing through 6th gear...

It makes perfect sense to extend your 6th gear in this case. Not that he has to or anything, but if he felt like doing it...it would make sense.

Boost threshold? It doesn't really matter if your 6th gear is further out of the powerband unless you're racing through 6th, IMO.

It does matter, in fact i am pretty sure thats why Audi built the trans with that ratio to begin with.

They made it so the driver could easily pass cars without the need to downshift. Its not a v8 that can cruise @ 1500 RPM and still pass with ease.

They mated the engine speed with the engine torque for a more NA type driving experience.

GURUMAN
11-30-2009, 01:41 PM
I would do it only if I go to Texas Mile, if not, I couldnt care less about my fuel economy [;)]

Haenszel20v
11-30-2009, 01:42 PM
I don't see how this logic is inverse...I doubt anyone is racing through 6th gear...

It makes perfect sense to extend your 6th gear in this case. Not that he has to or anything, but if he felt like doing it...it would make sense.

Boost threshold? It doesn't really matter if your 6th gear is further out of the powerband unless you're racing through 6th, IMO.

Drive a car with a gigantic turbo, where you have to shift into 4th to even make it up the slightest incline at 75mph.... it really sucks. More than you'd think.

shorterthanrich
11-30-2009, 02:01 PM
It does matter, in fact i am pretty sure thats why Audi built the trans with that ratio to begin with.

They made it so the driver could easily pass cars without the need to downshift. Its not a v8 that can cruise @ 1500 RPM and still pass with ease.

They mated the engine speed with the engine torque for a more NA type driving experience.

Yes, that's totally fair. I see the point that you were making more clearly now.

I do truly enjoy passing cars aggressively without shifting. I'd probably trade that for 30+mpg, though. But I do a ton of highway driving, so to each his own.

AK1RA07
11-30-2009, 02:25 PM
I would do it only if I go to Texas Mile, if not, I couldnt care less about my fuel economy [;)]

You should come do it anyway [:)]

epyx
11-30-2009, 02:38 PM
Looks amazing! I'm glad you like to show off your builds haha

dougyfresh
11-30-2009, 03:59 PM
Drive a car with a gigantic turbo, where you have to shift into 4th to even make it up the slightest incline at 75mph.... it really sucks. More than you'd think.

I've noticed that too with this 5th gear from my 2.8 trans. Not liking it.

Haenszel20v
11-30-2009, 05:03 PM
I've noticed that too with this 5th gear from my 2.8 trans. Not liking it.
yup, that's what ultimately drove me to get rid of the 1.8t.

MassS4B5
12-14-2009, 12:19 AM
I need to hit the lottery or marry a rich girl. your builds are awesome!

jibberjive
12-14-2009, 01:57 AM
I need to hit the lottery or marry a rich girl. your builds are awesome!

His B5 builds are donzo.

diabolical1
12-14-2009, 08:08 AM
yep ... gone with the wind now. please, let this die.

GURUMAN
12-14-2009, 06:18 PM
I cant, Actually I've decided last night to install a LS6 in the b5.

I will install it to a 98 S4 5 speeds tranny...

GURUMAN
12-14-2009, 06:19 PM
I will convert it to daily driver status...

pearlwhite
12-14-2009, 06:41 PM
^- would be a fairly easy swap. Bell housing adapters are available.

I want to put a BUILT c4 behind a 2.7t

washyourrhands
12-14-2009, 07:06 PM
I cant, Actually I've decided last night to install a LS6 in the b5.

I will install it to a 98 S4 5 speeds tranny...

sick.

GURUMAN
12-14-2009, 07:23 PM
And before some internet idiot tells me I wont fit, it's shorter tahn a VR6...

damnthemansam
12-14-2009, 08:07 PM
i bought a tranny from a guy who put a chevy 350 and turbo 400 into his b5. did some fabrication to the lock carrier and obviously wasnt awd any more but it fit just fine

NYEuroTuner
12-14-2009, 08:19 PM
I cant, Actually I've decided last night to install a LS6 in the b5.

I will install it to a 98 S4 5 speeds tranny...

I told you...




Peeped you asking that guy about that trans adapter in that other forum... [:p]

GURUMAN
12-14-2009, 08:24 PM
I told you...




Peeped you asking that guy about that trans adapter in that other forum... [:p]

LOL [>_<]

NYEuroTuner
12-14-2009, 08:29 PM
^ hehehehe

WMi_S4
12-14-2009, 10:37 PM
Dom, I take it this build is no longer happening as your motor is sold?

S-Power
12-14-2009, 10:56 PM
Dom, I take it this build is no longer happening as your motor is sold?

996 Time.

TravS4
12-14-2009, 10:57 PM
996 Time.

Dom with a 996 = Scary [o_o]

...butinagoodway...

WMi_S4
12-14-2009, 10:59 PM
996 Time.

Knew that, just was confused why you would ditch such a pricey project at the last minute [=(]

obviouspro
12-15-2009, 01:07 PM
I told you...




Peeped you asking that guy about that trans adapter in that other forum... [:p]

Haha, I actually saw that too. Dom, you have to keep us updated on that build. I was considering trying something similar.

Reich
12-16-2009, 11:25 AM
I cant, Actually I've decided last night to install a LS6 in the b5.

I will install it to a 98 S4 5 speeds tranny...
Talking about 5 speed tranny. Do you think it can hold a good amount of power as well? Looking for this route also.

NYEuroTuner
12-16-2009, 03:05 PM
Talking about 5 speed tranny. Do you think it can hold a good amount of power as well? Looking for this route also.

I dont think so, however there are trans adapter kits for the O1E to the LS series Motors...


WHy not just stick with 6 speed?

wdbdy2000s4
12-16-2009, 03:20 PM
Talking about 5 speed tranny. Do you think it can hold a good amount of power as well? Looking for this route also.

ask mike hood. His trans has held up fine over 500whp for a long ass time.

sean1.8t
12-16-2009, 03:43 PM
ask mike hood. His trans has held up fine over 500whp for a long ass time.

different transmission.

and mike blew around 3 transmissions in his career on AZ. i think one more since he's been banned too but im not for sure.

either way mike got off really lucky with his transmissions. many A4 guys have blown then at the 400whp mark

Jake39454
12-16-2009, 03:45 PM
I think Dom is talking about a 5 speed 01E, Mike Hood uses 5 speed 01A's which are a completely different ballgame...

Reich
12-16-2009, 05:53 PM
I think Dom is talking about a 5 speed 01E, Mike Hood uses 5 speed 01A's which are a completely different ballgame...

So 01A is a don't use it right?
Better with a 01E 5 or six speed?

GURUMAN
12-16-2009, 08:17 PM
The 01E I'm using is a 5 speed as tought as the 6 speed, it's comming from 96 S4

Storx
12-16-2009, 08:39 PM
The 01E I'm using is a 5 speed as tought as the 6 speed, it's comming from 96 S4

so, whats the newest plan today??? any new thoughts or builds you change your mind to... its hard to keep up with your builds.. haha...

Jake39454
12-16-2009, 10:03 PM
So 01A is a don't use it right?
Better with a 01E 5 or six speed?

01A's are glass. Anti-lag on my car ate them up... Any 01E will do

Jake39454
12-16-2009, 10:03 PM
so, whats the newest plan today??? any new thoughts or builds you change your mind to... its hard to keep up with your builds.. haha...

When are you coming back home? I want to see the Holset VE in action [:d]

Sales@RAI
12-16-2009, 11:30 PM
When are you coming back home? I want to see the Holset VE in action [:d]

VGT one? Damn you guys I may have some tricks soon

GURUMAN
12-17-2009, 05:14 AM
3 projects are pending

First, my 4.2 swap in the B6 Avant (I was waiting for my wife to give birth to our first baby girl yesterday), so I can have back my old B7 I gave her ! The swap shol take a couple of days. She think I'm changing the Timing Belt, [;)][;)]

Second, I will swap an LS series chevy 500 hp 500 ft/lbs average for sure in january or febuary, this will replace the B7 I will be selling in March.

I'm gonna give my Wife the B6 Avant 4.2 Tip...[:/]

After selling the B7, I will by the Porsche 996T by March for sure...[race]

mr.awesome
12-17-2009, 11:11 AM
Not 100% sure, thoughti saw something on youtube about you up at napierville? are you gonna be up there this summer? if you are id love to see this/whatever you bring in person..

GURUMAN
12-17-2009, 03:06 PM
Not 100% sure, thoughti saw something on youtube about you up at napierville? are you gonna be up there this summer? if you are id love to see this/whatever you bring in person..

Ya for sure, the owner's son is a friend of mine...

I plan on running 10 seconds with my 3000$ ls swap on juice...

mr.awesome
12-17-2009, 09:22 PM
sweet! i just picked up a 2.7t a6 myself so im gonna give it the first run this year

Storx
12-18-2009, 12:04 AM
When are you coming back home? I want to see the Holset VE in action [:d]

dude, me and you both.. i have so much more to do with the car to get it where i want it.. i been spending so much time on helping my buddy with his 2.0L DSM Holset ve build.. funny when i know how to program his ecu all the way from here then he does.. been doing live webcam chat to help him out..
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs274.snc1/10133_185910032574_564827574_3920886_4127401_n.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs274.snc1/10133_185910042574_564827574_3920887_2679798_n.jpg


Latest and greatest is 688whp@34psi from the Holset ve turbo..

Actually picked up a GT2871 really really cheap.. and going to switch over to an compound setup.. for better downlow with the holset pulling me from mid to topend.



2001 Audi TT 225 Quattro w/6 Manual
*2.2L ALH Blk/AEB Head w/HE351ve 450awhp*

2005 Arial Atom Replica
*K20a3 mild build 300whp(needs replaced)<<=TDI future??*

kiellish
12-18-2009, 12:11 AM
love the trans setup man. i can't wait to see a video of this thing run.

Storx
12-18-2009, 01:37 AM
love the trans setup man. i can't wait to see a video of this thing run.

currently deployed..when i get back i will

AudiVWTech
12-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Hey Guruman, why are you going to the older S4 transmission? Is there an issue with doing an LS motor with the 01E 6 speed that's behind the 2.7? I am about to jump on board with you and dive into the LS madness. I was pricing out doing a built 3.0 with GTs, bla bla bla and its gunna be a $20k deal by the time it's done. I have a lot of experience with LS motors and this could be a fun, interesting, and cheap way to go. It looks like A&E automotive machining make the parts to do it. I am guessing you have spoke with them or another similar company? Send me a PM and let me know where you are at in your investigation with this stuff. Thanks

GURUMAN
12-20-2009, 07:28 AM
Hey Guruman, why are you going to the older S4 transmission? Is there an issue with doing an LS motor with the 01E 6 speed that's behind the 2.7? I am about to jump on board with you and dive into the LS madness. I was pricing out doing a built 3.0 with GTs, bla bla bla and its gunna be a $20k deal by the time it's done. I have a lot of experience with LS motors and this could be a fun, interesting, and cheap way to go. It looks like A&E automotive machining make the parts to do it. I am guessing you have spoke with them or another similar company? Send me a PM and let me know where you are at in your investigation with this stuff. Thanks

I'm going with the 5 speed because it was my spare tranny for dog box

I sold my 6 speeds tranny to an AZ member.

Everything is gonna be on a budget, max to spend: 5k

adaptor /starter flywheel and clutch stage 3+ kit for around 1700$
LS 1300$
Custom harness with satnalone 800$
Cam/lifter/pushrod/timing chain kit 600$
Shorty headers 300$

So low 11 seconds for under 5000$

Slap 150 shot and I might be in the 10's and drived around with a lumpy idle

Here a good sound clip, Imagine this in my b5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFm32odXCGw

AudiVWTech
12-20-2009, 09:39 AM
Cool. Thanks for the response. Yeah, I am quite familiar with the LS1 and motor swapping with it. Why don't you use the factory LS1 computer and harness? They are so easy to work with and tune. I'd say its one of the best factory computers out there.

skele4door
12-20-2009, 09:57 AM
I agree as well. They are almost stand-alones as is. There is a wealth of knowledge over in the Conversions and Hybrids section of ls1tech.com if you haven't been there yet. If you have any questions feel free to shoot me a PM as I've built a few LSx hybrids.

GURUMAN
12-20-2009, 10:49 AM
Cool. Thanks for the response. Yeah, I am quite familiar with the LS1 and motor swapping with it. Why don't you use the factory LS1 computer and harness? They are so easy to work with and tune. I'd say its one of the best factory computers out there.

Ya, I wrote standalone, but basically it's the opened factory ecu.

The custom harness with fuse box and fuel pump relay is like 450 $

F16HTON
12-20-2009, 11:06 AM
Guru, was their a situation with the 2.7TT?

Last time I checked, Markuu at Agtronics was doing a phenominal Tial GT setup.

GURUMAN
12-20-2009, 11:57 AM
Guru, was their a situation with the 2.7TT?

Last time I checked, Markuu at Agtronics was doing a phenominal Tial GT setup.


No not at all, the engine was still like new, I just decided to seel everything and buy a 996 Turbo.

But after selling both turbo kits, old and new.
engine/transmission
race wheels
034 system

I was left with the rolling chassis and a spare 01E 5 speed tranny.
The car still have coilovers, S4 brakes, new bushings all around.

The plan was to get rid of my B7 and get an other cheap b6 (cash) for my Dayly driver. I decided to transplant a LS1 or 6 chevy V8 and keep my b5.

Having this car go for peanuts after that what killed me, so that's why I will turn it into a DD...

The Porsche will still happen in Feb 2010 and I'm still going with the 4.2 swap in the B6

F16HTON
12-20-2009, 12:00 PM
K, just remember that a 800WHP LS1 or 6 is not super cheap (not 20K audi expensive,but not cheap either)...it will take 800WHP to make you happy again [:)]

GURUMAN
12-20-2009, 12:11 PM
K, just remember that a 800WHP LS1 or 6 is not super cheap (not 20K audi expensive,but not cheap either)...it will take 800WHP to make you happy again [:)]

Dude it's a DD,

so 450 to 500 hp is enough

so you need a cam, headers, ad a set of ported heads...

so max 1800$ of hot parts...

F16HTON
12-20-2009, 12:14 PM
Right now [;)] I could fit a set of twins on a LS1/6

GURUMAN
12-20-2009, 03:24 PM
Right now [;)] I could fit a set of twins on a LS1/6

If i get sick of that lack of power, I will remote turbo it...[;)]

skele4door
12-20-2009, 07:29 PM
What are you going to do about gearing after the swap? I assume the 6 speed has a higher top gear than the 5 speed and we run 3k rpm at 75mph. It'll probably be turning that LSX a bit tight on the highway unless you plan on swapping ring and pinions.

BTW, if you plan to turbo it in the future you might consider using a 5.3. They are STUPID cheap, have more meat around the cylinders, have a bit lower compression which is more boost friendly, and really don't give up much power to the LS1s when modded similarly. You can either get iron or aluminum blocked versions as well depending on what your ultimate goals are.

AudiVWTech
12-20-2009, 11:31 PM
it's hard to come across aluminum 5.3s. Also compression and heat isn't an issue on the stock LS motors. The issue when turbo/blower/nitrous is hyperpathetic pistons that are done at 500-600 whp. But if you did want to drop compression on an LS1, all you have to do is swap some LQ4 heads from any old 6.0 liter trucks.

AudiVWTech
12-21-2009, 09:59 PM
I just talked to Eric at kit car chasis today. Looks like i'll be ordering my conversion stuff after the holidays

Trigger Happy
12-21-2009, 10:43 PM
So this LS swap seems like it could end up being a good option in competition with stage 3. Correct? Seems bout the same price and power.

AudiVWTech
12-21-2009, 10:53 PM
definately not a good option from K03s unless you are willing to do a lot of fab work, wiring, and have a bit more money to spend. And in the end a K03 car will be faster than a stock LS1 swap. But hell, nobody has even done one yet. For all we know, it won't work without some extensive modifications. Look at the VR6 swaps that are in the S4s. Those are months of paychecks and headached poured into those. I was thinking about going the VR route but I am partial to the LS1, so we will see what happens.

GURUMAN
12-22-2009, 12:14 AM
I just talked to Eric at kit car chasis today. Looks like i'll be ordering my conversion stuff after the holidays


Same here, Money was sent today...[;)]

TravS4
12-22-2009, 12:34 AM
I was thinking about going the VR route but I am partial to the LS1, so we will see what happens.

Same here, but depending on what sort of results happens with the LS and how much room is left in the engine bay (for turbos [>_<]) I may go this direction as well.

An SC LS is also a possible if there is a lack of room for turbos I suppose.

What about using an LS2? 6.0 and its already DBW like our cars are now so you wouldn't have to mess with a throttle cable, or would it be a huge PITA to get the DBW on the LS to work right?

Storx
12-22-2009, 01:10 AM
i dont know how hard it would be to adapt the LS2 to the drive by wire setup since the throttle body connectors are different.. but these seem to be plenty easy to find.. and the mods for them are hitting the shelfs.. sometimes cheaper then the LS1..

Storx
12-22-2009, 01:20 AM
guruman.. is there a tranny available that would give you longer gears.. so your not sitting at 3500rpms at 75mph..

AudiVWTech
12-22-2009, 12:18 PM
Yeah, that will be an issue with the LS motor. I am going to do the diesel allroad 6th gear swap. Should bring the 75 mph revs down to around 2200-2400.

I am looking to do an LS2 in mine. An LS2 will leave me about where I left off with the K04s powerwise. The LS2 is drive by wire but I might have to use the GTO pedal. I have to compare voltage ranges on the Stock S4 pedal to the range on the GTO pedal. They might be similar. Again we'll see. I think Guruman is doing a cable setup. Most LS1s are cable, unless they came out of a vette or an 04 GTO. I'll let him chime in since it is his thread after all.

skele4door
12-22-2009, 12:43 PM
You guys will probably be fighting for space up front, so you might want to look into either vette or LS4 accessory drives regardless of which chassis your motor comes out of. They are closer to the block than the F-bodies which is closer than all of the trucks which sit way out in front of the motor. The vette accessories are quite wide however.

AudiVWTech
12-22-2009, 01:37 PM
Yeah. I dint know if there will even be room for a vette water pump. I might have to look into runnin the acessories under the heads with custom brackets and remote mounting an electric water pump.

Storx
12-22-2009, 07:11 PM
Yeah, that will be an issue with the LS motor. I am going to do the diesel allroad 6th gear swap. Should bring the 75 mph revs down to around 2200-2400.

I am looking to do an LS2 in mine. An LS2 will leave me about where I left off with the K04s powerwise. The LS2 is drive by wire but I might have to use the GTO pedal. I have to compare voltage ranges on the Stock S4 pedal to the range on the GTO pedal. They might be similar. Again we'll see. I think Guruman is doing a cable setup. Most LS1s are cable, unless they came out of a vette or an 04 GTO. I'll let him chime in since it is his thread after all.

i am watching for this.. as i have an 1998 audi a4 sitting with a no motor back home in USA that i acquired for free...

also wouldn't the use of the audi a4 tdi manual from the new 2010 be ideal for this setup... ??

AudiVWTech
12-22-2009, 08:07 PM
i am watching for this.. as i have an 1998 audi a4 sitting with a no motor back home in USA that i acquired for free...

also wouldn't the use of the audi a4 tdi manual from the new 2010 be ideal for this setup... ??

the new A4 with TDI is a completely new engine with a totally different transmission. And the adapter plate is only available right now for the 01e and 016 transmission

Storx
12-23-2009, 12:29 AM
the new A4 with TDI is a completely new engine with a totally different transmission. And the adapter plate is only available right now for the 01e and 016 transmission

how about an tdi 01e from UK or Germany??

Storx
12-30-2009, 09:44 AM
been doing some studying and seems like there are a few different ways to go for the wireharness..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260386101446&crlp=1_263602_263622&ff4=263602_263622&viewitem=&guid=59bc52261250a02652f17331ffa9825c&rvr_id=&ua=WVI7&itemid=260386101446

http://ls1wiringharness.com/gpage2.html

here is downloads charts of the complete engine wire harness of the ls1 in an corvette.. i was reading that is practically the exact same diagram on all ls1's except transmission/smog changes which are no big deal...these links were what most of the solstice ls1 guys went off of when doing there swap. apparently from what i read is that our stock audi cluster speed/rpms should work.. but might be just slightly off... but should work...

1999-2004 LS1
Page 1 (http://ls1wiringharness.com/downloads/2003_vette_auto_DWG1.pdf)
Page 2 (http://ls1wiringharness.com/downloads/2003_vette_auto_DWG2.pdf)
Page 3 (http://ls1wiringharness.com/downloads/2003_vette_auto_DWG3.pdf)
Page 4 (http://ls1wiringharness.com/downloads/2003_vette_auto_DWG4.pdf)

GURUMAN
01-22-2010, 10:26 PM
If you guys are still interested in 3.0L power resultis with these tial turbos, I will post.


The local guy that bought them fom me told me he dosent want to be a secret and I can share at my usual way !

He bought my complete 034 setup and turbo kit.

He'S building a brand new 3.0L block with JE pistons and Pauter rods.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/GurumanTialKit022.jpg

Dowskeet
01-29-2010, 11:25 AM
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/GurumanTialKit022.jpg


[o_o].. WOW

[hail]

GURUMAN
02-02-2010, 05:35 AM
The kit:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/GurumanTialKit027.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/GurumanTialKit031.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/GurumanTialKit035.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/GurumanTialKit048.jpg
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/GurumanTialKitPano1.jpg

jibberjive
02-02-2010, 04:30 PM
Does that interfere with the coolant crossover pipe?

GURUMAN
02-02-2010, 04:31 PM
not at all, the 38mm are perfect

jibberjive
02-02-2010, 04:34 PM
That's what I'm running too, I just couldn't tell with the angles of the pics posted if maybe the bigger turbos had issues with that.

Edit: Nevermind, I'm retarded. The first pic clearly shows the crossover pipe is actually installed. I thought it was off for some reason.