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Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 02:48 PM
I've got $200.
I don't want to save and spend more on a mod, I'd like to spend about $200 maximum.

What should I get?
Probably my only options are a cold air intake, a blow off valve or a muffler. Big gains there (yeah right). please help.

I've got a 99.5 1.8TQTip.

greengravy
01-05-2005, 02:53 PM
you said performance mod but yet you listed a bov... you might want to rethink that or look at the ongoing threads about a bov... go with an intake... at least you get something out of it,or go ahead and get your bov, if you go that route you might as well throw your money in the trash can

Pureaudi
01-05-2005, 02:57 PM
save for a chip

...hehehe bov....loooool!

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 02:58 PM
well i don't know much about Audi's but I figured if its got a turbo its got a BOV worth upgrading.. sounds like I'm wrong though.

I think CAI its gonna be.

greengravy
01-05-2005, 03:01 PM
you know so much about bmws, go buy one of those,maybe you can figure out how to rig a bov up and get some performance out of it, youll have as much luck with that as with an audi

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 03:03 PM
so tell me young man: my Audi has an intercooler and a turbo, but no BOV? how come.

cbass
01-05-2005, 03:04 PM
Some people just don't think BOV's work well with the way Audi's are setup (I personally am one of those people). I would just stick with the 710N diverter valve instead because the A4 has a closed loop boost system, so when you "blow-off" air to the atmosphere, the ECU thinks that you are losing air somewhere and will compensate for it somehow.

Pureaudi
01-05-2005, 03:04 PM
save up 500ish, and buy a chip and upgrade your DV.

greengravy
01-05-2005, 03:05 PM
dont take me seriously fartknocker, im just f'in around with you from earlier. but for future reference a bov isnt a performance mod, it actually is worse for your a4 then helpful

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 03:07 PM
well this is news to me because for the most parts its the opposite for other turbo charged cars.

greengravy
01-05-2005, 03:08 PM
cbass said it good enough as others will later add to but thats the main reason why.... in our cars the air needs to recirculate rather than be vented into the atmosphere which the bov does, making the bov essentially useless unless you are ruinning a setup wth like 350 hp then it can be used to your advantage but thats a dif. story, 99% of us on here arent that mod happy

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 03:26 PM
sounds like a drop in K&N panel filter it is.

don't want to lose any horsies with a cone.

quattro_maniac
01-05-2005, 03:58 PM
Boost Gauge, K&N, and manual boost controller...should be under $200

drlandry00
01-05-2005, 03:58 PM
haha not the BOV again..... Save and get a chip man, That will be the biggest mod. then do some little stuff after... but if you must....do the intake, dont waste money on jsut a muffler.. wait and get the whole exhaust!!! ride on.. Cheers..

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 04:00 PM
i know.. a catback would be ideal but thats lots of $$.

e.van
01-05-2005, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by quattro_maniac
Boost Gauge, K&N, and manual boost controller...should be under $200

Most worthwhile

Ryan S.
01-05-2005, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by Fartsniffer
well this is news to me because for the most parts its the opposite for other turbo charged cars.
i dont think a bov increases performance on any turbo charged car. its just a safety thing to keep you from blowing your motor. could be wrong though. The best BOV ive ever heard was on a 850HP twin turbo v8 CART car. their bov are the size of a folgers coffe can.

e.van
01-05-2005, 04:25 PM
BPVs keep the turbo spooled, makes the car faster.
BOVs let the turbo spool down, increasing lag time.

greengravy
01-05-2005, 04:31 PM
too bad you cant be patient with your money and jsut save a couple hundred more to buy a chip.... it will get you the absolute most hp for the lowest amount of money... have fun with whatver ya get though

94jedi
01-05-2005, 04:41 PM
bro, either save for a new chip or scour the internet for a used, chipped ecu to match your car at a good deal.

SoleMate
01-05-2005, 04:55 PM
Neuspeed P-chip

STKSKI
01-05-2005, 05:03 PM
None of the three things you listed as options are performance mods, accept for maybe a good cold air intake which hasnt been proven to work well yet and would cost over 200. The 200buck intakes will only give you sound, no performance. Same with the BOV, and the muffler is just looks and sound, wont give you performance. Like everyone said, save for a little while longer and get a chip. That was the first thing i did to my car and talk about a jump in power. If you really wanna spend the 200, i would say buy a rear sway bar in the classifieds, that is the only real performance you can get for under 200.

STKSKI
01-05-2005, 05:05 PM
Oh yeah, i got my 1/8th test pipe for under 200. That gave me some good power, but i do have a full exhaust, i am sure it will help a bit on the stock exhaust.

OverSpun
01-05-2005, 05:16 PM
best performance mod is a checking account if you only have 200 bucks to blow. save up another 300 or so and get a giac chip. and to answer your question, you cant "upgrade the audis bov" because it doesnt have one, it uses a bpv, which stands for bypass valve. You can upgrade the bypass valve to a forge 007 which will run about 120 bucks. I have this valve and it works very nicely.

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 05:49 PM
When I was 21 I could justify spending $500 on an exhaust system or chip for a $15,000 car but these days I can't really see it happening..
But I think if I buy a $500 GIAC chip I wouldn't have to spend another cent on mods cause that'll be the best thing I can do for my car. We'll see..

e.van
01-05-2005, 05:54 PM
GIAC is the "most power per dollar" mod you could possibly do. I'm sure it would keep you happy for a good while before you catch the power-mod-bug again if you get it.

greengravy
01-05-2005, 06:02 PM
get the giac, if it satisfies your hunger for power then good deal, if not there are other things you can do, but for not that much more you get a lot more power than what you would out of an intake... chip it or dont bother i guess if you dont plan on really doing anything as you say you might do

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 06:04 PM
any GIAC horror stories for high mileage cars?

SeanF
01-05-2005, 06:16 PM
i got almost 96xxx on my car and run GIAC....

no problems yet...

white fish
01-05-2005, 06:17 PM
drive an A4 with a chip
and you WILL chip your car
night and day difference

pearl1.8T
01-05-2005, 06:36 PM
i say u get a new dv and a snub mount or something...not a big performance upgrade, but u can't expect much for 200

OverSpun
01-05-2005, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Fartsniffer
When I was 21 I could justify spending $500 on an exhaust system or chip for a $15,000 car but these days I can't really see it happening..
But I think if I buy a $500 GIAC chip I wouldn't have to spend another cent on mods cause that'll be the best thing I can do for my car. We'll see..

dont expect the car to be fast or anything out of the ordinary then.. audis are expensive cars to mod.

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 08:19 PM
hmm I'll need a timing belt at 75,000 miles right? sounds like I should change my snub mount then.

and it sounds like I really should save for a chip.. a week with no car won't work for me though, so I'll have to factor in the price of a rental into the deal too. unless I can find a used chipped ECU that matches my car.

and I have NO idea what a "new dv" is.

Pureaudi
01-05-2005, 08:22 PM
DV = diverter valve

if you dont know what an abreviation is, go to the FAQ section. there is a wright up on all the avreviations that are most commonly used.

HotSauce
01-05-2005, 08:24 PM
A "New DV" is a new Diverter Valve, which is just alrternate terminology for a BPV, or Bypass Valve. This is the valve that works best in a closed loop system, rather than the blow off valve, which needs to have something measure the air after the blow off valve, to keep the air/fuel ratio stoich.

An upgraded diverter valve will be able to hold more boost, and will open and close quicker, giving less turbo lag, and maximizing your boost potential.

SeanF
01-05-2005, 08:28 PM
when i got my chip i was only out of a car for about 30 min...

if you find a dealer locally, they can do it relatively quickly...

dtmevolution
01-05-2005, 08:40 PM
fartsniffer, your off to a good start. YOur on the forum asking questions. My opinion is to just save the money and get a APR/GIAC chip. The only two power mods that are worth while is a chip and a cat-back exhuast. Intake, bpv upgrades are only really needed until you get a upgraded turbo.

timdtracey
01-05-2005, 08:59 PM
Save an extra $30 and go get a Neuspeed 1 bar chip. They're only $230 and it is a great chip.

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by A4Shon1.8TQM
when i got my chip i was only out of a car for about 30 min...

if you find a dealer locally, they can do it relatively quickly...

they'd have to be a pretty good dealer, not some hole in the wall selling clear corners and strut bars.

and the chance of finding a good dealer of some obscure brand like APR in San Diego that is capable of installing a mod chip is pretty low..

I might have a chance going to Neuspeed headquarters, they're in CA.

any other recommendations?

greengravy
01-05-2005, 09:03 PM
i know a little while ago skene was offering to trade ecu's + cash with i belive 5 programs for the giac chip... i belive thats what he had, dont hold me to it.... but then again i havent seen skene on the forum for a while so maybe thats not the best suggestion ive ever made

audia
01-05-2005, 09:26 PM
strip your car of unnecessary weight.

cheapest "mod" available.

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 10:02 PM
I'm looking at the Neuspeed 1.0 chip and it looks like a pretty good option.
If they can rush me my upgraded ECU in 3- 4 days like the website says I'll probably go with that.
My Audi's my daily driver so I don't know if I'd want to go with a real raced-out chip like the GIAC.. that and the price is a little too steep for me for one of those.

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by audia403
strip your car of unnecessary weight.

cheapest "mod" available.

are you saying I'm fat? that I need to exercise? [:p]

SeanF
01-05-2005, 10:05 PM
i got my GIAC for around $250 when all was said and done...

i got the chip for like 125, then the socket for 50, and install was 75 i think

Fartsniffer
01-05-2005, 10:32 PM
hows that 710N valve?

do you only need it if you have a chip and are pushing more boost?

or is it a cheap and easy mod I can do whenever?

greengravy
01-05-2005, 11:55 PM
fartknocker... just chip the damn thing already...

bOOOOstedAudi
01-06-2005, 02:14 AM
get my intake jan 15th

jones3000
01-06-2005, 05:43 AM
audizine sticker![:D] =5hp

SeanF
01-06-2005, 08:32 AM
WHAT?!!? ive been lied to!!!!

i was told it was 13hp...

PrequelsA4
01-06-2005, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by greengravy
fartknocker... just chip the damn thing already...

lol....