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Version4
09-08-2009, 08:10 PM
Hello there,

Just curious as to if it is possible to retrofit a trip computer on a 2006 A4. I know I would need a new windshield wiper lever (with the Reset and Selector buttons). Has anyone done this? Where can I get the parts and coding I need?

Thanks for the help,

V 4.0

Quattro
09-08-2009, 08:54 PM
new wiper stalk, then windshield sensor and run a wire or ground it.

coding, in vag, forgot what section...I would believe in the instrument section.

Version4
09-09-2009, 06:23 AM
Thank you, definitely a step in the right direction. Do you know what module (computer) and harness I have to buy for it? I'd like to have the MPG, timer, and all that good stuff that comes with the trip computer.

Does anyone have any more info on this?

Thanks for the help.

naiku
09-09-2009, 06:29 AM
new wiper stalk, then windshield sensor and run a wire or ground it.


What is the windshield sensor for? This is something I would like to do with my Avant. I have the computer that only shows miles remaining in the tank, and would like to have the one that displays MPG etc.

There was a thread about this not too long ago, but I don't think it went very far... http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307760

Coderedpl
09-09-2009, 07:55 AM
Im curious about this too. I have the one that displays miles left, radio and temperature. If i put in the stalk would everything else work?

Version4
09-09-2009, 08:02 AM
Im curious about this too. I have the one that displays miles left, radio and temperature. If i put in the stalk would everything else work?

I don't think it would, but then again, I don't know for sure. Hence the thread. And yea, all I have now is the distance to empty (DTE) display, but no more. I would assume you need an extra module to be plugged in somewhere and then get coded. Hope someone who konws picks up the thread...

manguyen
09-09-2009, 08:12 AM
ive been working on this, but no one has gotten back to me on a PN for their comfort control module and their cluster.

Quattro
09-09-2009, 10:14 AM
you dont need the comfort control for DIS. You will need comfort control, if you plan on retrofitting memory seats and mirrors (if I am not mistaken)

Ill chime in a little later when I am not on my phone, with a bit more detail.

Version4
09-09-2009, 11:43 AM
Thanks dude, waiting for the info...

Version4
09-09-2009, 12:15 PM
On another forum I got pointed to http://www.tyresmoke.net/
He said (Quote):

"Try looking in the A4 Forum on TyreSmoke Network - Car Related Joy where there's a whole topic on this issue.

Basically it's a new wiper stalk and some re-coding, but you also need to deal with an alarm that you will get due to non trip computer cars not having a washer fluid level sensor. This can be either "got rid of" by grounding a pin, or you can retrofit the level sensor easily enough. - PetrolDave"

The first one to find the thread in tyresmoke earns 100 KOOL points.

V 4.0

Coderedpl
09-09-2009, 01:10 PM
On another forum I got pointed to http://www.tyresmoke.net/
He said (Quote):

"Try looking in the A4 Forum on TyreSmoke Network - Car Related Joy where there's a whole topic on this issue.

Basically it's a new wiper stalk and some re-coding, but you also need to deal with an alarm that you will get due to non trip computer cars not having a washer fluid level sensor. This can be either "got rid of" by grounding a pin, or you can retrofit the level sensor easily enough. - PetrolDave"

The first one to find the thread in tyresmoke earns 100 KOOL points.

V 4.0


I want them!!!
Well out of curiosity i started looking and found this:
http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/audi-a4-s4-cabrio/68576-retro-fitting-dis-cruise-a4-b6.html

http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/search.php?searchid=525405

naiku
09-09-2009, 01:49 PM
Hmmm 21 pages of reading on tyresmoke.net.... hopefully this will be a pretty easy retrofit.

manguyen
09-09-2009, 02:37 PM
http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/audi-a4-s4-cabrio/112387-dis-trip-computer-only-retrofit.html

seems like its been done. nice. i will attempt this on a guys car i know.

manguyen
09-09-2009, 02:47 PM
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178480&highlight=multifunction+display

looks like the coding is 31300 for Cluster module 17: adaptation channel 19

naiku
09-09-2009, 02:50 PM
http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/audi-a4-s4-cabrio/112387-dis-trip-computer-only-retrofit.html

seems like its been done. nice. i will attempt this on a guys car i know.

Great, let me know how difficult it is, and total cost, although it sounds like all that is needed is the wiper stalk and a vag-com.

manguyen
09-09-2009, 02:56 PM
thats all it is i believe. the wiper stalk is like 130 new i think, but you can find used ones for cheaper. i saw a few on here go for 50-75.

Version4
09-09-2009, 04:24 PM
http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/audi-a4-s4-cabrio/112387-dis-trip-computer-only-retrofit.html

seems like its been done. nice. i will attempt this on a guys car i know.

Wow, you're right. It can be done. I was reading a link in the post above about fitting the washer level sensor (which I'd probably want to do since I want a fully functional system)....

Let me know how it goes.

a4happy
09-11-2009, 12:19 PM
I've done exactly what you are asking for. Added DIS to my 2006 Audi A4. I have another guy on the Audiworld forums asking for me to write up the instructions as well. If I get a chance, I'll see if I have time to give you detailed instructions. Here's a rough outline, but this is only from memory without my notes in front of me...

Stuff you'll need
1) Purchase wiper stalk with OBD controls (rocker switch on end, I'll get you part number when I get home.)
2) Purchase or have available an extra wire to ground the washer fluid sensor (I purchased exact wire with wiper stalk, made life easy.)
3) Purchase hex/star screwdrivers, I believe a 15T with a 3" shank to get into the tough to reach spots without scuffing anything.
4) Ross-Tech Vag-Com
5) Permanent marker to mark steering wheel alignment spot
6) Camera to take pictures to post for the next person that needs help

What you need to do (missing details that I need to fill in later.)
1) Remove steering wheel
2) Mark with pen the current alignment of steering column
3) Take the rest of the steering column apart
4) Remove gauges
5) Connect pin #xxx on connector yyyy to a grounding point (this is the washer fluid sensor that will be enabled with the Vag-Com changes, and if it's not grounded, your DIS will say washer fluid low FOREVER.)
6) Remove old wiper stalk
7) Install new wiper stalk
8) Put it all back together (good time to adjust steering wheel if it wasn't correct to begin with.)
9) Wonder why you have extra screws (hahah, just kidding)
10) Use Vag-Com to enable the DIS.

I used information from various forums and from a forum posting or two from a guy over in Europe named Ben Wardle. I don't have the links now, but I'll try to get them to you later.

A4B7GA
09-11-2009, 07:07 PM
Yes, please post those part numbers, stalk and sensor

Version4
09-13-2009, 07:34 PM
Ah, thank you. I was reading a forum about this but the only detailed instruction I could find was on how to install the washer level sensor and not on how to install the stalk. I would have fiddled around until realizing I had to remove steering wheel and not mark the position (so would have been royally FKD). I think I have the part numbers I need:

Washer bottle sensor: 7M0 919 376
Contact Housing (plug): 1J0 973 202
Connector Wires: 000 979 009A
Connector Wires: 000 979 133A

I don't have the part number for the multifunction stalk but I can get one from someone in this forum.

You make a good point about the camera. I was thinking to do a write up after I'm done so that there is a concise post to deal with it (if everything goes well for me that is).

I'll start the upgrade as soon as I get the parts.

Thanks for the help.

A4B7GA
09-14-2009, 08:33 AM
Thanks...just need that stalk PN and I will be ordering as well...but I want to see your DIY too

Version4
09-16-2009, 07:06 AM
Washer bottle sensor: 7M0 919 376
Contact Housing (plug): 1J0 973 202
Connector Wires: 000 979 009A
Connector Wires: 000 979 133A

Parts are on order. Should be retro-fitting soon....

Coderedpl
09-22-2009, 08:12 AM
seems like the stalk runs about 134 from genuine audi parts. Looks like a 200$ investment with oem parts.

Oban
09-22-2009, 09:06 AM
Hi all. Interesting topic. I looked at GAP and the total for all parts is $166. That is doable.

I am just concerned about the VAG COM. Haven't used it yet. As far as I understand VAG COM you can have the software unregistered with limited features. But to perform this mod you need a registered copy with all functions, correct?

Would be great if somebody could clarify.

Version4
09-24-2009, 10:57 AM
My parts without the stalk were about $65CAD. You can buy the stalk from people in the forum. Check the classifieds part.

A4B7GA
09-25-2009, 06:50 AM
I assume that you did the install? How did it go?

Version4
09-28-2009, 11:14 AM
Not yet, I was supposed to get my sensor from Toronto on the weekend but wasn't able to. It probably won't be until mid to late October before I can head out to Toronto to pick it up. I'll keep you posted though...

sarchila
10-23-2009, 01:33 PM
Well i was able to do this, not too bad except removing the MFSW. I have everything installed and recoded, however, I haven't installed the repair wire yet, as I can't see to find out what pin# on the cluster T32 blue connector to insert into. Some other threads from Tyresmoke and VWVOrtex have pin# for a B6 or A3, however, those pin# have wires there already. Can anyone help here.[headbang]

a4audi4fun
10-23-2009, 02:11 PM
Hi all. Interesting topic. I looked at GAP and the total for all parts is $166. That is doable.

I am just concerned about the VAG COM. Haven't used it yet. As far as I understand VAG COM you can have the software unregistered with limited features. But to perform this mod you need a registered copy with all functions, correct?

Would be great if somebody could clarify.

Yes - you need to have the registered/full version of VCDS/VAG-COM; unregistered free version does not let you change adaptation channels 10 or higher.

Version4
10-23-2009, 07:51 PM
Finished retrofit and works good. Will write how-to when I get a bit of spare time, I'm hoping by next week some time...

italia8287
10-23-2009, 10:30 PM
Finished retrofit and works good. Will write how-to when I get a bit of spare time, I'm hoping by next week some time...

cant wait. ive had the stalk sitting on my desk for months now!

a4audi4fun
10-24-2009, 07:44 AM
Well i was able to do this, not too bad except removing the MFSW. I have everything installed and recoded, however, I haven't installed the repair wire yet, as I can't see to find out what pin# on the cluster T32 blue connector to insert into. Some other threads from Tyresmoke and VWVOrtex have pin# for a B6 or A3, however, those pin# have wires there already. Can anyone help here.[headbang]

The pin is for a fluid level sensor in the windshield washer reservoir. Highly probable that all North American Audi A4/A3 models have this sensor as a standard factory option. If you don't get the washer fluid display showing when you turn the ignition on you are good to go - the icon looks like a little fountain. You could confirm by just pushing on the button under the cluster with the wrench on it; that takes you through a self test of all the available monitoring functions. UK/Europe have a much greater flexibility to add/remove options so the washer fluid level sensor was often one that wasn't added.

sarchila
10-24-2009, 09:16 AM
My car didnt come with sensor in 2006 (a4 B7) unless you ordered the technology package, with gives you trip computer, xenon, and sensor. I need to ground the pin, however, what pin# is it on the T32 connector Blue? Did your car come with sensor?

a4audi4fun
10-24-2009, 11:32 AM
My car didnt come with sensor in 2006 (a4 B7) unless you ordered the technology package, with gives you trip computer, xenon, and sensor. I need to ground the pin, however, what pin# is it on the T32 connector Blue? Did your car come with sensor?

Without adding the wire to the pin do you currently get an error message showing on your cluster?

My car has all options except RNS-E Nav; just when it shipped from the factory they "forgot" the trip computer option so I made my dealer retrofit it. I've never let the washer fluid in the Avant run that low that the sensor was triggered but there is a wire attached to the top of the washer reservoir so I assume it connects to the sensor inside. Sorry can't tell you what pin on the blue connector as that would mean I'd have to pull the instrument cluster out.

BTW it's also possible that the current wire in Pin #1 on the connector goes nowhere (it's just part of the North American loom) so if you added your wire in there and grounded it you would be fine. I'd check to see if there's a 12V or not sitting there before I tried grounding it however [:)]. I suspect the washer sensor is a switch that completes a ground connection and goes open circuit when the fluid is low.

sarchila
10-25-2009, 06:51 AM
I installed everything and works great, however, I need to ground the cluster to remove the washer error, what pin#, I can't seem to find it anywhere on the forums, only on B6 pin#1 or A3 Pin#20, my T32 connector from cluster has wires in those pins already.

Thanks

Hello there, the pin number for an A4 is #1 on the left connector. Can't remember if it is blue or green, I think it is green though, but don't quote me on that. There is a lot of info on tyresomke.net where I found which one to use. All I remember is that it was on the left hand side (behind the tachometer). There should already be a wire in that pin. I piggy backed the sensor in. Mind you, I didn't ground it, I installed the washer sensor but I have heard others have grounded it. I grounded the other wire coming from the sensor. Ground pin 1 at your own risk. There should be a ground terminal underneath the instrument cluster. Hope this helps. Good luck.

LJ


Thanks, I grounded Pin#1 and it worked, I just removed the existing wire in pin#1 and inserted the repair wire added a ring terminal at other end and grounded to bolt in back of cluster. Did you just have to add the sensor or get a new lower washher fluid container?

Version4
10-26-2009, 07:09 AM
I just got the sensor, you can find part numbers earlier in the forum...

sarchila
10-31-2009, 04:57 AM
Can you provide the install steps to the washer as I am going to try this. I see the part numbers and will order from dealer or genuine audi parts depending on costs. pics would help.

Version4
10-31-2009, 06:17 PM
First thing first, I can not accept any liabilities for the following information; you do this at your own risk. These text/pictures are provided to detail how I did my retrofit. Again, proceed at own risk.
For retrofitting the trip computer into my car, this is what I did. Read below:

1. Got the parts I needed
A wiper stalk – can purchase by looking at classifieds in the site (need part number)
Washer bottle sensor: 7M0 919 376
Contact Housing (plug): 1J0 973 202
Connector Wires: 000 979 009A
Connector Wires: 000 979 133A

2. Coded the car (taken from: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178480&highlight=multifunction+display )
When reading background info on doing the retrofit, I noticed everybody installed the wiper stalk first, then coded the car and grounded pin #1 as to not have the washer empty warning, then installed the washer sensor. When I did my install, I installed the wiper stalk and washer sensor then tried to code. I think when the cluster got additional info from the washer sensor that wasn’t supposed to be there, it freaked out and wouldn’t let me in to code. I had to ground pin #, code, then re-connect washer sensor. This is why I recommend coding first, then doing the install.

Instrument Cluster Module 17
A019,0,Additional Features
A019,5,Additional Features
A019,6,?xxxx: Illumination
A019,7,0 = Needle and Scale only active at "Light ON"
A019,8,1 = Needle already active at "Ignition ON"
A019,9,2 = Scale already active at "Ignition ON"
A019,10,3 = Scale (2nd Map) and Needle at "Ignition ON" active
A019,11,x?xxx: Board computer
A019,12,0 = only Level 2 (Long Time Memory)
A019,13,1 = Level 1 and 2
A019,14,xx?xx: Driver Information System (DIS)
A019,15,0 = DIS
A019,16,1 = Highline without DIS
A019,17,2 = DIS with Menu Guide
A019,18,3 = DIS with Menu Guide and Unit Changing
A019,19,xxx?x: Lap Timer
A019,20,+1 = Lap Timer active (RS4 only)
A019,21,xxxx?: Remote Clock
A019,22,+1 = Remote Clock active
A019,23,+2 = Sport Seats installed (RS4 only)

C00,Steering Wheel Electronics (J527) Coding
C01,0?xxx: Steering Wheel
C02,0 = Standard (without Multifunction)
C03,1 = 3-Spoke Steering Wheel (Sport Steering Wheel)
C04,2 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio Control
C05,3 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Telephone Control
C06,4 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Telephone/Voice Control
C07,5 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Voice Control
C08,0x?xx: Options
C09,+1 = Tiptronic
C10,0xx?x: Board Computer & Cruise Control
C11,0 = Board Computer & Cruise Control not installed
C12,1 = Board Computer installed
C13,2 = Cruise Control installed
C14,4 = Board Computer & Cruise Control installed
C15,0xxx?: Rear Wiper (Chassis)
C16,1 = Rear Wiper not installed (Sedan/Cabriolet)
C17,2 = Rear Wiper installed (Avant)

I opted to have to have onboard computer functionality with level 1 and 2 (read owner’s manual for description of both).

3. Remove Battery
After I removed the battery, I made sure by testing that power was off. This is a very important step because the next step is to remove the air bag.

4. Install Wiper Stalk
Remove screws from bottom of steering wheel column. There should be two Torx on either side and an Allen down the middle. Picture 1 (items 7 and 8) shows the two Torx screws.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P12.jpg



Remove air bag (I made sure you didn’t skip step 3) by loosening two Torx screws in the back of the steering wheel as shown in Picture 2.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P21.jpg



Once air bag is off, unplug it and the holding screw for the steering wheel will be exposed as shown in Picture 3. It can be removed with a T55.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P32.JPG



After the wheel holding crew is off, I marked the location of the steering wheel on the teeth pattern so that I could put it back exactly as it was (if not, the ESP icon will light up when the car is on and the wheel will be crooked). My marking is shown on Picture 4.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P41.JPG



After the steering wheel is off, I could see the cancelling ring with steering sensor (shown in Picture 5 and Picture 1, item #10). The ring should come off by gently pulling it straight out. The wiper stalk can then be unscrewed and replaced by the new one.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P51.JPG



When putting the wheel back together, I used a torque wrench and blue Loc-Tite to secure it in place with the T55. Torqued up to 50nm as described here (http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/audi-a4-s4-cabrio/68576-retro-fitting-dis-cruise-a4-b6-12.html )

5. Install Washer Level Sensor
The left front wheel and wheel well cover had to come off. In some forums I read that installing the sensor was as simple as reaching in, removing the plug and sticking the sensor in. I had to remove the lower washer bottle to do this. It doesn’t have to come off completely as the place where the sensor goes can be seen if one twists the bottle to one side as shown in Picture 6.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P61.jpg



After the sensor is in place, one of the wires has to be grounded, I used the nearby ground terminal shown in Picture 7 (the yellow repair wire can be seen in the picture). Others have used the ground in the back of the instrument cluster. In retrospect, I should have used that one as to not have any yellow repair wire showing.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P71.jpg


http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P81.jpg



The wires were routed through the inside of the wheel well to the drive’s side of the well. A set of rubber nipples that are hidden by the wheel well liner can be used to bring the wire(s) to the inside of the cabin (ran out of space in camera, no pics from here on…).

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/P9.jpg


I removed the instrument cluster by first removing the trim and then the screws behind it that hold the cluster in place. The blue plug that houses pin one, was behind the tachometer. There was a wire there already; I piggy backed the wire from the sensor in to it. To remove the plug, I had to lift the orange lock carefully with a flat head screw driver and then pulled it out.

Once the soldering was done, I replaced the connector and put everything back together. Re-plug the battery and enjoy trip functionality.

That’s how I did it. Cheers,
V4.0

Coderedpl
10-31-2009, 08:56 PM
So do you need to get the sensor whether or not you have the icon showing up in the beginning @ startup system check?

I have the icon showing up and want to know if I still need all that stuff. Could save me a few bucks if I don't

I know my wipers are rain sensing

Version4
11-01-2009, 06:27 AM
So do you need to get the sensor whether or not you have the icon showing up in the beginning @ startup system check?

I have the icon showing up and want to know if I still need all that stuff. Could save me a few bucks if I don't

I know my wipers are rain sensing

No, you can ground pin 1 instead. I added it because my goal is to add as much functionality as that car can offer me. But you don't have to.

Your wipers are rain sensing? Did that come with the car or did you add it yourself? If it came with the car, could you get me the part number for the windshield you have? Need to replace mine so might as well add the functionality. The rear view mirror with rain/light sensor is in the mail as we speak...

Coderedpl
11-01-2009, 06:46 AM
No, you can ground pin 1 instead. I added it because my goal is to add as much functionality as that car can offer me. But you don't have to.

Your wipers are rain sensing? Did that come with the car or did you add it yourself? If it came with the car, could you get me the part number for the windshield you have? Need to replace mine so might as well add the functionality. The rear view mirror with rain/light sensor is in the mail as we speak...

So what does that sensor really do in the end?

Sure, just need to remember to write it down and it came like that

WalkerT
11-01-2009, 01:58 PM
Version4 - does the trip display show up in red and white like stock or is it all red like the non trip display cars.
Mine just shows DTE and only displays red but the cars that I have seen from Audi that have the trip computer option their display is red and white.

Version4
11-01-2009, 06:40 PM
Version4 - does the trip display show up in red and white like stock or is it all red like the non trip display cars.
Mine just shows DTE and only displays red but the cars that I have seen from Audi that have the trip computer option their display is red and white.

It's all red. To display in colour you need the colour DIS. That is a difficult and expensive upgrade that only your dealer can do. So no, my display is red only... for the time being...

Version4
11-01-2009, 06:44 PM
So what does that sensor really do in the end?

Sure, just need to remember to write it down and it came like that

The sensor will tell you when the washer level is low. If you short it, it will fool the car into thinking the washer level is OK, so it will not warn you when it gets low.

Coderedpl
11-01-2009, 08:20 PM
The sensor will tell you when the washer level is low. If you short it, it will fool the car into thinking the washer level is OK, so it will not warn you when it gets low.

Wouldn't a person WANT to know when its low?

Version4
11-02-2009, 05:27 AM
Wouldn't a person WANT to know when its low?

Weren't you the one that asked what the use of the sensor was?

Coderedpl
11-02-2009, 06:52 AM
Weren't you the one that asked what the use of the sensor was?

Yea I did. Just trying to understand its function and the instructions given ;)

So I guess if I have it, i dont need to worry about it?

Version4
11-02-2009, 03:35 PM
Yea I did. Just trying to understand its function and the instructions given ;)

So I guess if I have it, i dont need to worry about it?

Well for me the best way to understand it is to go through the forum on tyresmoke:

http://www.tyresmoke.net/forum/audi-a4-s4-cabrio/68576-retro-fitting-dis-cruise-a4-b6.html

At least that's how I came to understand it. Mind you, I do as much reading as I can before starting a new project. If you are confused about some of the parts on my post, let me know what parts are obscure and I will clarify/edit the post.

Cheers.

manguyen
11-03-2009, 07:35 AM
hey your steering wheel looks greesy :-), get a Mr. Clean Magic Eraser and clean that up...

A4B7GA
11-05-2009, 05:58 PM
ok, I am missing something..where/what is pin1

a4audi4fun
11-05-2009, 08:24 PM
ok, I am missing something..where/what is pin1

Pin #1 in the "Trip Computer Retrofit" context is the location of one of the wires on the connector at the back of the instrument cluster. That wire/pin needs to be grounded to disable the warning light associated with low windshield washer fluid when the trip computer function is enabled. One of the earlier posts in this thread thought it was on the green connector.

A4B7GA
11-07-2009, 03:42 PM
So I fell pretty stupid...I did everything, even though I had only changed the coding and not the adaptation...then I realized I needed the full program to change the adaptation so it would work...damn it!

a4audi4fun
11-07-2009, 05:39 PM
http://www.vagtoolfinder.com/locator.aspx

Use this link to find someone with VAG-COM/VCDS somewhere close to you.

illegitimus
11-18-2009, 10:40 AM
A quick question to you, guys, who have completed this retrofit project, especially, Version4, so the low washer fluid sensor function needs to be disabled from the new wiper stalk by grounding one of the wires from it if this fluid sensor and its functionality is already in place, correct? I have this sensor in place already but not the MPG/trip computer function, for which I want to install this new stalk.

Version4
11-20-2009, 08:26 AM
Did you install the washer sensor yourself? If so, don't wire it in yet until you get the wiper stalk installed. Then wire in your sensor and do the coding.

Cheers

Coderedpl
11-20-2009, 12:02 PM
Idk why but all this tiem i thought i had the washer fluid sensor, for some reason it didnt BEEEEEPPPP when i ran out of washer fluid yesterday :( so i guess i dont have one, could of been my brothers car then

Version4
11-20-2009, 10:32 PM
Could have been, for sure. My bottle came with a plug replacing the sensor. I think you can see it in one of the pictures.

A4B7GA
11-28-2009, 09:17 AM
Thanks for all the help. Just finished coding and all works great...I was playing around with vagcom and found a way to disable the washer bottle sensor...I didn't try it since I had already grounded my cable, but its something to research.

Danne_gg
11-28-2009, 09:26 AM
What functions are available with the trip computer? avg fuel consumption, avg speed, driving time, and what more?

Coderedpl
02-16-2010, 12:05 PM
Bump, back from the dead. Looking into doing this in the spring time.

Starting off with the wiper stalk.

Next in line:
Washer bottle sensor: 7M0 919 376
Contact Housing (plug): 1J0 973 202
Connector Wires: 000 979 009A
Connector Wires: 000 979 133A

Comes out to about a 70$ job

redlabel81
02-16-2010, 12:44 PM
Is this the PN for the stalk?
8E0-953-503-C -4PK

Hammer97e
02-26-2010, 10:07 AM
Is this the PN for the stalk?
8E0-953-503-C -4PK

I am also looking for clarification on the part number for the stalk needed. I have also come across part number 4EO-953-503-B. Any help would be great. Thanks!

redlabel81
02-26-2010, 01:45 PM
^^ I think the B is for the sedan and the C for avant.

Coderedpl
09-23-2010, 01:42 PM
I'm doing this now and im fuckin stuck....the part #'s of the wires are extremely short. No way in hell they will reach the instrument cluster...and where do i connect what/

Pin 1? im lost :(

italia8287
09-23-2010, 02:01 PM
i dont think im gonna end up doing this so if anyone wants a stalk with the controls on it, PM me...

Coderedpl
09-23-2010, 02:34 PM
i dont think im gonna end up doing this so if anyone wants a stalk with the controls on it, PM me...

If you dont care about washer functionality, its cake. I can do it for you. But if you want the washer low level functionality, then it gets tough. The part numbers for the wires listed, those wires are wayyyyy too fuckin short to reach from instrument cluster to sensor

00s4slvr
09-23-2010, 03:09 PM
subscribed. Was also thinking about doing this and just shortening the washer fluid level. Can anyone confrim if that works? Also everything will work ok like mpg, driving time, brake apd sensor and stuff

italia8287
09-23-2010, 03:15 PM
If you dont care about washer functionality, its cake. I can do it for you. But if you want the washer low level functionality, then it gets tough. The part numbers for the wires listed, those wires are wayyyyy too fuckin short to reach from instrument cluster to sensor

yeah i dont really care about the washer functionality, ill just ground that out. yeah can you show me what to do??

Coderedpl
09-24-2010, 07:28 AM
yeah i dont really care about the washer functionality, ill just ground that out. yeah can you show me what to do??

subscribed. Was also thinking about doing this and just shortening the washer fluid level. Can anyone confrim if that works? Also everything will work ok like mpg, driving time, brake apd sensor and stuff
Everything works, no low washer fluid, washer works, trip computer works. I did it last night. I will post more details for people and a few pictures.

Coderedpl
09-24-2010, 11:07 PM
Updated directions in addition to the others seen here:
(not responsible if your car blows up or anything goes wrong)

This is just in addition to what others have written. All original DIY credit goes to whoever deserves it.
For those who still want to do this, here is a few things that could help you. This is how I did it. You can improvise and do what works for you. I think you should do the coding first like Version4 said, coding should be pretty straight forward but if you need help feel free to PM me. After you do the coding and you start the car you will see 1 around your miles left and your low washer fluid light should go on.

For the wiper stalk I think the directions are pretty straight forward. It's simple Took me all of maybe 15-30 minutes total to put it in.
Just a note: you will need a T-8 torx driver to loosen up the bottom piece of the steering wheel and to remove the stalk. Not a bit, but a screwdriver since a bit is too fat to fit.And a T-55 for the middle ring. The ring also has a connector on the top right and there is three "clips" holding it in place. Disconnect connector, Pry the clips up a bit and pull out slowly. If you are careful enough nothing will spin and you will be good to put it back.

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Now the fun part. Some knowledge of basic wiring and stuff would help.
The parts are:
Washer bottle sensor: 7M0 919 376 (You need this)
Contact Housing (plug): 1J0 973 202 (You need this)

These two wires i actually used along with my radio shack ones to make my own long set. (you'll see why later)
Connector Wires: 000 979 009A
Connector Wires: 000 979 133A
Radio Shack wire on spool
Windshield Washer Fluid

To avoid spillage and make life easier, USE ALL OF YOUR windshield wiper fluid so the tank is empty. Or have some sort of method to catch all the wiper fluid
Before you start:
Lift car, secure it (jack stands), take wheel off. Remove instrument cluster (you will see why later)

1. To make life easier remove the fender liner. There is an assortment of T-25 screws that you see all over the car. The fender will then drop and you just pull it right out.
2. Then comes the washer bottle. It is actually TWO pieces (at least for me) the long side(which you usually dont see) and the small one you see in the engine bay. They connect as you will see when you take the fender liner off. Look around for the bolts for the big one and start unscrewing them. Once you get the ones from the big bottle, go to the small one on top and there will be two "bolts" there. One next to the power steering container and one a little closer to ecu (its silver)
3. Once everything is unbolted carefully pull on the long washer fluid bottle, it should fall right out. You will then see the washer motor. Turn it to the left, and pull it up and put it on the side. You now have a bit more room to work with the bottle.
Should look like this:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/th_IMG_1694.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/?action=view&current=IMG_1694.jpg)

4. Go to the smaller bottle in the engine bay and twist it on its side so the black wire kind of thing is pointing down.
Should look like this:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/th_IMG_1695.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/?action=view&current=IMG_1695.jpg)

5. You will then see behind the long washer bottle a cap where the sensor goes. Its right above the motor. Take out the cap, put it around the washer sensor and put it back in.
Should look like this:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/th_IMG_1695.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/?action=view&current=IMG_1695.jpg)

6. Then you take all your wires and put them in the housing. One of the yellow wires has those ends where the prongs of the sensor will slide into, use your imagination and splice those into your long wire (when you see the wires you will know what i mean). One of the wires (black in my case) will be the ground. While the other (red in my case) will be the one for pin one. Of the two yellow wires you got from the dealer the other will have a square end to it. Splice that one into the pin one wire (not the ground)

7. When you finish your wiring, do not cut the wires yet since you need to decide the length, and take out the pink block on the housing and plug it into the sensor.
8. Now here you have a few options. You can either route through the fender area into the inside of the car around the cluster, or you can drag the wires up where the small bottle is and go from there either through the grommet thats seen near the ecu, or you can pop open the ECU cover and go through there. Whatever you decide to do, make sure it ends up in the area of your instrument cluster. I choose the ecu cover option since before i was trying to figure out how to wire this whole thing. Thats a little more involved.
9. As soon as you decide which way you will route the wires cut enough so that you have some slack and enough to go into the area safely.
10. Reverse process, Put the washer bottles back together and start putting the bolts back on. Don't do it too tight yet, and Do not put the fender liner on yet.
11. Take your windshield washer fluid and pour some in the top small bottle and check for leaks.
12. If no leaks, tighten up all the bolts, put the fender liner back on and fill up the reservoir.
13. Inside your car around the cluster you should now have two big connectors (blue and green) and your two wires. One ground and one for pin one.

14. Ignore the green connector, the blue one is the one you will work with. Cut the zip tie that you see at the connector. Then there should be a pinkish colored tab, slide it out. Look at the connector and locate pin one. Pin one is literally #1 on the connector. For me it was the brown/red wire. Now grab the blue connector housing and slide it out. Take some sort of tool and remove the current pin one, be careful not to break it. there will be a square hole, you just poke it there and try to slide it out, it should come out easily. As you see its a squarish connector as the one you had in one of the yellow wires. This is the end your pin one wire should have.
15. Take your pin one and slide it into place. Re-assemble the connector and slide that pink tab on.
here is some pictures of how my "pin one" looks like with the housing uncovered
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/th_IMG_1706.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/?action=view&current=IMG_1706.jpg)http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/th_IMG_1707.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/?action=view&current=IMG_1707.jpg)http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/th_IMG_1708.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/?action=view&current=IMG_1708.jpg)

As you see I have my radio shack wire then the wire i got at the dealer. So it goes. Dealer wire with those prongs, radio shack, dealer wire square.
The ground is similar except you dont have a square at the cluster end.

16. Now for the ground i got a found some metal piece (i guess its called a ground terminal or something) and i put it behind the screw where the fuses are. As seen:
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/th_IMG_1705.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/Coderedpl/TripCompWasher/?action=view&current=IMG_1705.jpg)

You can either use that location or the ground thats right behind the cluster. You can strip the wire and wrap it around or join it with a connector and do it a little more professionally. Either way, as long as its grounded to the frame then you'll be fine.

17. Put the cluster back in, reconnect everything. Put wheel back on if you haven't already. Take your key and start the car. you low washer fluid light should no longer be on. Play with the stalk and everything should work if you did it correctly.

Enjoy.
yes it seems very long and hard but its pretty straight-forward. I tried being detailed so its easier. Have fun! [wrench]

roofone
10-15-2010, 09:37 PM
Pin one is literally #1 on the connector. For me it was the brown/red wire. Now grab the blue connector housing and slide it out. Take some sort of tool and remove the current pin one, be careful not to break it. there will be a square hole, you just poke it there and try to slide it out, it should come out easily.

Thanks for the detailed write-up. I'm going to try this soon. One question: what did you do with the original pin one? It looks like you just left it hanging there after replacing it with the yellow wire?

Coderedpl
10-16-2010, 08:58 AM
Thanks for the detailed write-up. I'm going to try this soon. One question: what did you do with the original pin one? It looks like you just left it hanging there after replacing it with the yellow wire?
Yes, that's exactly what I did. Put a bit of electrical tape on it and left it there. No negative side effects as far as i saw, everything works like it always did. I read somewhere that it doesnt really do much so you should be fine :)

roofone
10-25-2010, 07:55 AM
I finished the retrofit (both the wiper stalk and windshield washer fluid sensor) this weekend. It wasn't too hard (thanks to all the info here), so it was good as my first decent sized project on the car. The hardest part of figure out how to best place the jack and stands.

When wiring pin 1, I replaced the wire with the yellow repair wire (and left the original red-brown wire hanging). This works, but something I read on Tyresmoke makes me think there was a cleaner way to do it by following the brown-red wire from pin 1 down to a multi-plug in the driver's footwell:


...my '07 B7 already had the wire from the instrument cluster to the black multi-plug [in the footwell]...a repair wire in to the black multi-plug, through the bulk head grommet, along the top of the wing and in to the sensor in the washer bottle.

I tried tracing the wire from pin 1 in the blue wiring harness behind the instrument cluster to the footwell, but I can't see where it connects to. Doesn't look like it's in the black multiplug down there.

Any one else connect the wires there instead of behind the instrument cluster?

Coderedpl
11-23-2010, 11:15 PM
I finished the retrofit (both the wiper stalk and windshield washer fluid sensor) this weekend. It wasn't too hard (thanks to all the info here), so it was good as my first decent sized project on the car. The hardest part of figure out how to best place the jack and stands.

When wiring pin 1, I replaced the wire with the yellow repair wire (and left the original red-brown wire hanging). This works, but something I read on Tyresmoke makes me think there was a cleaner way to do it by following the brown-red wire from pin 1 down to a multi-plug in the driver's footwell:


...my '07 B7 already had the wire from the instrument cluster to the black multi-plug [in the footwell]...a repair wire in to the black multi-plug, through the bulk head grommet, along the top of the wing and in to the sensor in the washer bottle.

I tried tracing the wire from pin 1 in the blue wiring harness behind the instrument cluster to the footwell, but I can't see where it connects to. Doesn't look like it's in the black multiplug down there.

Any one else connect the wires there instead of behind the instrument cluster?

I tried to find that grommet and where the wire would go, i even popped the ecu box open and tried looking in there to not much luck, so i took the easy route and went behind cluster. Best way to do it IMO and works flawless to me!

Cosworth
11-26-2010, 02:57 PM
If I am following this correctly. This used to be on my Passat VR6. It shows avg fuel consumption, trip range & what else?

Coderedpl
12-20-2010, 10:08 AM
If I am following this correctly. This used to be on my Passat VR6. It shows avg fuel consumption, trip range & what else?

Avg Consumption, trip range, average speed, instant mpg, Don't remember what else

Homer
12-20-2010, 10:37 AM
Avg Consumption, trip range, average speed, instant mpg, Don't remember what else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ZxqAPpLHs&hd=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ZxqAPpLHs&hd=1

airbornerifleman
12-20-2010, 10:45 AM
I believe there are 2 light sensors
-on the rear view
-on the dash near windshield de-fogger vents.

Homer
12-20-2010, 10:58 AM
I believe there are 2 light sensors
-on the rear view
-on the dash near windshield de-fogger vents.

The dash light sensor is for the Climate Control.
Windshield is for rain and auto headlights.

airbornerifleman
12-20-2010, 11:38 AM
SEEN

Coderedpl
12-20-2010, 05:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ZxqAPpLHs&hd=1

Well then I wasn't too far off =P

naiku
03-16-2012, 06:05 PM
Bump!! Finally picked up a wiper stalk with trip functions, found that I already have a T55 and some blue loctite, so will give this a try tomorrow. I only plan to install the stalk, not all that bothered about the low wiper fluid (at least not right now) so do I simply splice into the pin 1 wire and attach that to a ground somewhere? Looks like the hardest part will be a) getting over removing the air bag/steering wheel (fear of screwing something up with the airbag and/or steering) and b) finding someone with a full VAG com.

I do have one question though, what do I need to change in my VAG-Com settings? If I remember correctly from other changes its usually a case of changing a number, am I right in that I would need to know my original number first, and can the ebay cable read that number?

Coderedpl
03-16-2012, 06:45 PM
Bump!! Finally picked up a wiper stalk with trip functions, found that I already have a T55 and some blue loctite, so will give this a try tomorrow. I only plan to install the stalk, not all that bothered about the low wiper fluid (at least not right now) so do I simply splice into the pin 1 wire and attach that to a ground somewhere? Looks like the hardest part will be a) getting over removing the air bag/steering wheel (fear of screwing something up with the airbag and/or steering) and b) finding someone with a full VAG com.

I do have one question though, what do I need to change in my VAG-Com settings? If I remember correctly from other changes its usually a case of changing a number, am I right in that I would need to know my original number first, and can the ebay cable read that number?
Read through the pages more carefully, coding and all is in there.
You should be able to just ground it and it should be ok, but you'll never know when your windshield fluid is low.

Disconnect battery before you pull the steering wheel, and only connect after you finished everything.

naiku
03-16-2012, 06:55 PM
Read through the pages more carefully, coding and all is in there.
You should be able to just ground it and it should be ok, but you'll never know when your windshield fluid is low.

Disconnect battery before you pull the steering wheel, and only connect after you finished everything.

I rarely use my windshield fluid, so am not too worried about that function. I saw the coding, but, and maybe this is just me being dumb, can't figure out what I am looking at:

Instrument Cluster Module 17
A019,0,Additional Features
A019,5,Additional Features
A019,6,?xxxx: Illumination
A019,7,0 = Needle and Scale only active at "Light ON"
A019,8,1 = Needle already active at "Ignition ON"
A019,9,2 = Scale already active at "Ignition ON"
A019,10,3 = Scale (2nd Map) and Needle at "Ignition ON" active
A019,11,x?xxx: Board computer
A019,12,0 = only Level 2 (Long Time Memory)
A019,13,1 = Level 1 and 2
A019,14,xx?xx: Driver Information System (DIS)
A019,15,0 = DIS
A019,16,1 = Highline without DIS
A019,17,2 = DIS with Menu Guide
A019,18,3 = DIS with Menu Guide and Unit Changing
A019,19,xxx?x: Lap Timer
A019,20,+1 = Lap Timer active (RS4 only)
A019,21,xxxx?: Remote Clock
A019,22,+1 = Remote Clock active
A019,23,+2 = Sport Seats installed (RS4 only)

C00,Steering Wheel Electronics (J527) Coding
C01,0?xxx: Steering Wheel
C02,0 = Standard (without Multifunction)
C03,1 = 3-Spoke Steering Wheel (Sport Steering Wheel)
C04,2 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio Control
C05,3 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Telephone Control
C06,4 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Telephone/Voice Control
C07,5 = Multifunction Steering Wheel with Radio/Voice Control
C08,0x?xx: Options
C09,+1 = Tiptronic
C10,0xx?x: Board Computer & Cruise Control
C11,0 = Board Computer & Cruise Control not installed
C12,1 = Board Computer installed
C13,2 = Cruise Control installed
C14,4 = Board Computer & Cruise Control installed
C15,0xxx?: Rear Wiper (Chassis)
C16,1 = Rear Wiper not installed (Sedan/Cabriolet)
C17,2 = Rear Wiper installed (Avant)

I am guessing I would want A019,13,1 = Level 1 and 2, but of the bottom list there are several options. I think that's why I was wondering if I could at least view the current coding with my ebay cable, as that would help me to understand what the above codes mean, and how to modify mine to enable the trip functions.

Coderedpl
03-16-2012, 10:43 PM
Once you go into the module it will be clear, i think it's called INSTRUMENTS with #17 in front of it. If i do not forget i will check it with my cable tomorrow.

naiku
03-23-2012, 06:14 PM
The ring also has a connector on the top right and there is three "clips" holding it in place. Disconnect connector, Pry the clips up a bit and pull out slowly. If you are careful enough nothing will spin and you will be good to put it back.


I finally got started on this, have the wheel off, but can't figure out how to get the ring off. I can see the 3 clips, but I can't see a connector anywhere, much less how to disconnect one. Any tips on getting it removed? Thanks.

Fuck. Finally found the connector and got it off, but it spun. Now it won't spin when back on and a little piece has popped out on a spring. It looks centered, but I have no idea if I am going to now run into all sorts of problems.

Coderedpl
03-23-2012, 07:10 PM
I finally got started on this, have the wheel off, but can't figure out how to get the ring off. I can see the 3 clips, but I can't see a connector anywhere, much less how to disconnect one. Any tips on getting it removed? Thanks.

Fuck. Finally found the connector and got it off, but it spun. Now it won't spin when back on and a little piece has popped out on a spring. It looks centered, but I have no idea if I am going to now run into all sorts of problems.

Nothing should of spun anywhere.
You remove the airbag and there is a connector on that.
There was three clips on the ring itself that you just push up on to remove. Just like any clip, you just have to be very careful not to break anything.

Since you said yours spun, I guess try to bring it to the way you think it was at least. Not sure what you mean by something popping out though.


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naiku
03-23-2012, 07:16 PM
Nothing should of spun anywhere.
You remove the airbag and there is a connector on that.
There was three clips on the ring itself that you just push up on to remove. Just like any clip, you just have to be very careful not to break anything.

Since you said yours spun, I guess try to bring it to the way you think it was at least. Not sure what you mean by something popping out though

The clockspring originally was able to spin, when I found the connector at the top right it sort of popped out and spun some. It looks like its all back together straight now. The piece that popped was at the bottom of the clock spring, fingers crossed when I hook the battery back up all will be good.

Gonna call it a night for now, hopefully grounding the wire in the morning should not take long. I think I read that on some B7's a wire from pin 1 goes to a block in the kickpanel area. I might try to locate that and tap into that instead of behind the cluster.

Thanks for the help on this.

Coderedpl
03-24-2012, 03:27 PM
Good luck, make sure you re-connected everything

naiku
03-25-2012, 02:56 PM
Good luck, make sure you re-connected everything

Done, grounded pin 1 to a ground terminal down to the top of the drivers kick panel. No CEL's / air bag warning lights etc. Now I just have to track someone down locally with a full VAG Com.

naiku
04-01-2012, 12:41 PM
When I did my install, I installed the wiper stalk and washer sensor then tried to code. I think when the cluster got additional info from the washer sensor that wasn’t supposed to be there, it freaked out and wouldn’t let me in to code.

When you did this, did it let you code the instrument cluster but not the steering wheel? I attempted to code mine earlier, and could only get the instrument cluster code to take. The steering wheel could would not work. I have not installed the washer sensor, but am wondering if my ground from pin 1 is bad, causing me to get the same problem as if I had installed the sensor first.

OK, looks like it might have been a bad ground. I checked the connection coming from the cluster, that was fine, the ground looked fine. But I removed it and left it hanging free. Started the engine and got a low fluid warning right away. Tried a different ground, started again and the warning went away.

What sucks is I have to wait until next weekend to try coding the steering wheel again. No free time to get to the person with a full VAG until next week. Hopefully that's all it was and I can finally get this done.

sixtuning
04-23-2012, 01:33 PM
Thanks for all the help. Just finished coding and all works great...I was playing around with vagcom and found a way to disable the washer bottle sensor...I didn't try it since I had already grounded my cable, but its something to research.

Just wanted to chime in and say that I tried this (coding to disable washer sensor with the Vag COM) and can confirm that it does not work in conjunction with the trip computer enable coding. It seems that when you code to enable the trip computer, it overrides the washer bottle sensor setting.

For the record, the setting is in Instruments (17) Coding. The last number for cars without DIS is '4' by default (washer bottle sensor disabled). Changing this number to '1' (old style, pre 11/2006) does nothing, and changing it to '8' will enable the washer bottle sensor.

camoto
04-23-2012, 01:47 PM
Good info.

If you don't want the sensor, grounding out pin 1 behind the cluster really is super easy. You can get to it from underneath, just remove the kick panel and reach up. You can even see what you are doing through the hole on the side under the fuse panel door.

Charles.waite
05-14-2012, 11:11 PM
Just wanted to bump this, partially for my own future reference. The part number for the Avant Multifunction DIS Wiper Stalk is: 4E0953503G4PK

sixtuning
05-15-2012, 05:09 AM
Also for reference, I am collecting some other information and part numbers for related retrofitting in this thread:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/482102-Retrofitting-Auto-Headlights-to-B7

Mister W
05-15-2012, 05:14 AM
Just wanted to bump this, partially for my own future reference. The part number for the Avant Multifunction DIS Wiper Stalk is: 4E0953503G4PK
4E0953503 C will work too, it's an early revision.

drroy
06-12-2012, 06:31 PM
bumping this up to add that a b6 wiper stalk can be used in a b7 to add trip computer function (I searched but could not find definitive evidence that it would). I used a 02-03 wiper stalk part # 8E0 953 503 B in my 06 and it worked fine, bought on ebay for $25 shipped

kaz02a4
12-28-2013, 01:45 PM
Hi all, just wanted to add a bit to this thread. I did the swap today, but unfortunately my phone and camera are both having issues [headbang] so no pics. But feel free to PM me for any questions.


CODE FIRST
The steering wheel bolt is NOT a T55 torx, it's a M12 triple square. DO NOT use the torx for it; get the right tool for the job
The plastic shroud will have to be removed to get at the cancelling ring. You need a T8 screwdriver, A BIT ON A DRIVER HANDLE WILL NOT FIT IN THE HOLE
You will break at least one of the three clips on the cancelling ring. That's okay, it's not the end of the world
There is a yellow plug that goes to the back of the cancelling ring on the right side. REMOVE THIS before trying to pull the ring off
There are two T8 torx screws that hold the stalk in place. They're on the right side of the unit (top and bottom)
You DO NOT need to pull the gauges to get to the washer sensor wire. Pull the kickplate and you'll see the blue connector behind the tach side of the gauges
For the love of god, PULL THE BATTERY. Let the car sit for at least 15 minutes before you try to disconnect the airbag
There are 2 clips on the airbag. Make sure they fit back together properly, and are seated in the correct places


The coding can be found in a bunch of different places, but you'll need a full VCDS system to activate it. Just remember: Instruments (17) > Adaptation > CH 19 AS WELL AS Steering wheel (16) > Coding. There will be a pop-up that has everything you need to activate the full functionality of the trip computer. Thanks to a4audi4fun, brew_daugus, and everyone in this thread for all of the great information.

xbriansg36x
11-30-2014, 10:52 AM
So not to bring this one back from the dead but I'm replacing the windshield wiper stalk because mine is snapped off.... By reading this it seems pulling the steering wheel apart is necessary. I don't have the tools though so before I go spend anything extra if I'm not doing anything other than removing the old stalk and putting the new one on, does the steering wheel still need to be removed?

naiku
11-30-2014, 11:00 AM
Yes, regardless of just doing a straight swap you need to remove the steering wheel to remove the stalk.

xbriansg36x
11-30-2014, 11:00 AM
Damn, that's unfortunate. Thank you for the quick answer though

VroomTT
03-24-2015, 09:27 PM
Bringing this thread back from the dead [a4]

I've done the coding and will be doing the stalk swap as soon as I the T8 screwdriver arrives. Got the driver kick panel off and would like to ground out the wiper fluid sensor circuit next.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/VroomTT/B7%20A4%20Quattro/20150324_204149_zpsvwxfgisc.jpg

I can see the blue cluster and I should be able to pull it off without removing the cluster.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/VroomTT/B7%20A4%20Quattro/20150324_233845_zpsqwnwmb3c.jpg

I've also read above that some were able to ground the sensor out by tapping into one of the wires from a black multi-connector in the kick panel area instead. Given the option, I'd rather tap into there instead of the cluster. Pulled the only two black ones I saw...

This one has two red wires, and a red/white wire.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/VroomTT/B7%20A4%20Quattro/20150324_233816_zpswumxn6dh.jpg

This one has a red/black, and a red/white(cream?) wire.
http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/VroomTT/B7%20A4%20Quattro/20150324_233738_zpsuj9balba.jpg

My understanding is the pin#1(on the blue connector behind the tach) wire is red/brown.

Anyone know the location of where it leads? And where I can ground out the sensor(other then on pin#1 behind the tach)?

Avant4me
03-25-2015, 07:19 AM
When you did this, did it let you code the instrument cluster but not the steering wheel? I attempted to code mine earlier, and could only get the instrument cluster code to take. The steering wheel could would not work. I have not installed the washer sensor, but am wondering if my ground from pin 1 is bad, causing me to get the same problem as if I had installed the sensor first.

OK, looks like it might have been a bad ground. I checked the connection coming from the cluster, that was fine, the ground looked fine. But I removed it and left it hanging free. Started the engine and got a low fluid warning right away. Tried a different ground, started again and the warning went away.

What sucks is I have to wait until next weekend to try coding the steering wheel again. No free time to get to the person with a full VAG until next week. Hopefully that's all it was and I can finally get this done.


You're always doing something that I find later and want to do myself!
This might be on the list after I finish my bumper and wheel projects.

Try talking to Johnny Tran he has VAgCOM and lives close to the office

VroomTT
03-26-2015, 07:50 AM
Successfully grounded out the wiper fluid level sensor[wrench]

This can be done without pulling out the gauges. There is more than enough room to get to it once the kick panel is removed. Pull the blue plug from behind the tach, and locate the Pin #1 wire(clearly labeled on the plug). In my case it was a brown/red wire. Cut the zip tie and slide off the little pink cover to allow the wires an inner plug to slide out. Once it's out, separate the wire from the others and re-wrap the bundle together, with the needed wire outside the bundle. Use a small splice to jump a new wire into the line & ground out that wire on the frame. I used the bolt above the fuses for simplicity.

http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/VroomTT/B7%20A4%20Quattro/20150325_220529_zpskeicgnvf.jpg

The whole process can be seen from the hole above the fuse box, which makes things fairly easy [up]

No more wiper fluid warning on the cluster! Big thanks to all those who posted how to do this here [hail]

kaz02a4
03-26-2015, 08:42 PM
Nice work! Congrats. Enjoy the trip computer, as well as the bulb error warnings that are included with enabling the on-board computer [cool]

VroomTT
03-26-2015, 09:29 PM
Wrapped this up tonight[wrench]

Couldn't be happier with the result. The all red DIS has much more functionality that I anticipated too.

I'll post up a video or pics soon to add to this resource[up]

VroomTT
03-26-2015, 09:37 PM
Nice work! Congrats. Enjoy the trip computer, as well as the bulb error warnings that are included with enabling the on-board computer [cool]

Hmmm... this may already be occurring lol. My remote entry isn't working and I read this was likely due to the battery being disconnected several times. Also just today the rear driver blinker was signaled to be out for a second when I turned it on, but then went right off and the light worked fine. It all did work fine for two days between coding and doing the install though... odd

PNW Avant
03-26-2015, 09:56 PM
Every time you disconnect the battery the remote will stop working. Turn the key to the on position and press unlock (or lock, cant remember which one) while the key is in ignition.

VroomTT
03-30-2015, 12:25 PM
Every time you disconnect the battery the remote will stop working. Turn the key to the on position and press unlock (or lock, cant remember which one) while the key is in ignition.

This worked great. Thanks for the info!

Also, here is the video:
http://vid1208.photobucket.com/album...pswtmolyry.mp4

I did the Trip Comp retrofit and a mediabridge BT aux at the same time, so the video aims to show the function of both.

mtroxel
04-02-2015, 07:08 PM
I did this today on my 06. Got a used wiper switch on eBay from a 2005 A8, part # 4E0953503B4PK. No big deal except I didn't know you also had to code the steering wheel. Weird. That did it for me. Grounded pin one from the cluster. Someday I might get the fluid level sensor and remove the ground. But this was a cheap little mod!

kaz02a4
04-03-2015, 07:47 AM
It's a wonderful mod, I'm thrilled seeing the information now. It's cheap and easy to do!

Flipp_76
07-13-2016, 11:51 AM
I did install the dis/wiper stalk but i'm getting airbag light coming up.
Erased it but still coming back.
Where did i go wrong?

mtroxel
07-13-2016, 12:05 PM
How did you erase it? You need VCDS to erase it. And if you have VCDS, you should also be able to see the code that's causing the airbag light.

Nizmo
03-20-2020, 11:14 PM
Bringing this back from the dead.

Im in the middle of doing a RNSE install, Nav Update, CD Changer retrofit, and CD Changer glovebox retrofit.

This is one of the pre-reqs for the color DIS right? New color cluster and bring to the dealer for the immobilizer coding?

Okedokey
03-20-2020, 11:36 PM
Bringing this back from the dead.

Im in the middle of doing a RNSE install, Nav Update, CD Changer retrofit, and CD Changer glovebox retrofit.

This is one of the pre-reqs for the color DIS right? New color cluster and bring to the dealer for the immobilizer coding?

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Nizmo
03-25-2020, 01:23 PM
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Referencing this thread:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/449266-Red-Cluster-Display-to-Color-Cluster-Display

New Trip Computer (Wiper Stalk) showed up, ordered the washer level sensor, connector housing, and square terminals from Audi.

*Side-note got the CD Changer in as well as the Glovebox for said Changer, but the CD Changer harness is backordered from Audi (Germany) due to the Coronavirus.....

Okedokey
03-25-2020, 02:57 PM
Referencing this thread:

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/449266-Red-Cluster-Display-to-Color-Cluster-Display

New Trip Computer (Wiper Stalk) showed up, ordered the washer level sensor, connector housing, and square terminals from Audi.

*Side-note got the CD Changer in as well as the Glovebox for said Changer, but the CD Changer harness is backordered from Audi (Germany) due to the Coronavirus.....

The harness is available on ebyay too, you looked there?

Nizmo
03-25-2020, 09:14 PM
The harness is available on ebyay too, you looked there?

Well, I went with dealer OEM, ECS and others have to order them in as well. I hate waiting tho. Prime has got me impatient these days...