Dectane Hedlights....under my surgery

[fly300kts]

Hi Guys,

A Fellow Ziner (rg_a4) sent me his set to try to improve the LED brightness and try to install the system I use on my V3's. The bottom LED (4 of them) are the one that came with the headlight and the one on the side (4 of them) are mine [:D]. I still have to make a little circuit board to foul the ECU.
I hope he will be glad of the result [up]
While they are open, going to get rid of the smoked lens in front of the turn signal and paint in black the strip below the high beam
If interested by the "upgrade", PM Me.

Phil

Ebay's Dectane
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0314Large.jpg

Original LED
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0319Large.jpg

Mine
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0320Large.jpg

Outside (picture don't make justice)
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0321Large.jpg

[TonyD]

Interesting. How was the headlight sealed? Like the B6 or the B7?

[ataylor]

SOLD! I'm buying dectanes and sending them to you this winter

[rg_a4]

anybody who has interest in working with Phil...DO IT!! he's great and as you can see...his work and his smarts say it all! thanks again brother!

[theklug]

Stunning! Expect another order sometime within the next few months from me!

awesome work [up]

[DarkNite]

This is some great work indeed. You will never cease to amaze me! [wrench]

[ggg20t]

+ 1 rep to you. I should really give you negative rep for teasing the fuck out of me with all this LED stuff (hahah just playin). That looks awesome!! Good call on the dude who sent them to you. The stock LED's look cheap. Can't wait till i have the cash for the taillight LED's!!

[rg_a4]

+ 1 rep to you. I should really give you negative rep for teasing the fuck out of me with all this LED stuff (hahah just playin). That looks awesome!! Good call on the dude who sent them to you. The stock LED's look cheap. Can't wait till i have the cash for the taillight LED's!!

thanks man :) Are the taillight led's avail??

[ggg20t]

Last time i talked to him he said they were!

[Koby]

Phil, that you are willing to take on this project shows your versitility and ability to adapt to the market place around you, which is a key to success.

I raised this question in the previous thread but I think it got drowned out: for the benefit of those interested in these lights, now that you have them opened, what are your thoughts on swapping out the projectors with some high-quality units such as the hella bi-xenon 90MMs http://www.amazon.com/Hella-Headlamp-BiXenon-Capsule-Ballast/dp/B000DZM4MO

[fly300kts]

Phil, that you are willing to take on this project shows your versitility and ability to adapt to the market place around you, which is a key to success.

I raised this question in the previous thread but I think it got drowned out: for the benefit of those interested in these lights, now that you have them opened, what are your thoughts on swapping out the projectors with some high-quality units such as the hella bi-xenon 90MMs http://www.amazon.com/Hella-Headlamp-BiXenon-Capsule-Ballast/dp/B000DZM4MO

Hi Koby,

Plenty of room to work inside and the material quality is average.
The headlaml could be installed with some tricks but my question for you is: Why? $650 for the headlamp + $400 for the Dectanes?? Does no make any sense to me. Why don't you just go OEM?
I am selling OEM Xenons with LED V3 installed for $800 [o_o] You just need the ballast and bulbs

Phil

[redlabel81]

God damn!! That came out just the way it should! You my good man are a genius.
Can you PM me a price to get that done on my heads?
Not sure how I will arrange for shipping and stuff.....Maybe a new set from ebay. Hmmmm.....not planning a vacation to Norway any time soon? I have a spare room with a soldering iron in it...... :)

[fly300kts]

God damn!! That came out just the way it should! You my good man are a genius.
Can you PM me a price to get that done on my heads?
Not sure how I will arrange for shipping and stuff.....Maybe a new set from ebay. Hmmmm.....not planning a vacation to Norway any time soon? I have a spare room with a soldering iron in it...... :)

^^^ LOL...can't stop [:D]
I was wondering if I should buy a set and start rotating them.
No price yet (just staring to CAD the circuit board) but I'll let you know soon

Phil

[fly300kts]

thanks man :) Are the taillight led's avail??

Yes they are [:D]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/Tail%20Lights/IMG_8293Large.jpg

[redlabel81]

^^^ LOL...can't stop [:D]
I was wondering if I should buy a set and start rotating them.
No price yet (just staring to CAD the circuit board) but I'll let you know soon

Phil

:) Golden! I have the black ones tho...

[fly300kts]

:) Golden! I have the black ones tho...

Yes, because of the 2 different colors, I am not sure I will do it

Phil

[redlabel81]

So if I order a second set on the bay and send them directly to you it might work out......? :)

[IceMole]

Looks awesome, is that chrome part above the LED bar all one piece? I wonder how it would look if the high beam surround was black. If only the black ones were less black and the chrome were not so chrome.

[fly300kts]

ALL IN [:D]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0329Large.jpg

[fly300kts]

So if I order a second set on the bay and send them directly to you it might work out......? :)

Yes you can do that

Phil

[Latin Audi]

[hail] Still doing amazing work

[fly300kts]

Looks awesome, is that chrome part above the LED bar all one piece? I wonder how it would look if the high beam surround was black. If only the black ones were less black and the chrome were not so chrome.

Yes, it's all one piece and because the seams are not really sharp, I think it will look like crap if not perfectly done. I won't do it

Phil

[djvice]

Wow...thats bright! Stupid question, but do your lights appear brighter on the Dectane strip as opposed to the OEM bi-xenon (chrome reflection?)

[fly300kts]

Wow...thats bright! Stupid question, but do your lights appear brighter on the Dectane strip as opposed to the OEM bi-xenon (chrome reflection?)

Yes, the chrome reflector make them stand a bit more but not that much compared when installed on my V3's. Everything is in the LED and they better be good because they cost me a fortune [headbang]
Time to upgrade to the V3 my Friend [up] [:D]

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

damn that looks sick Phil!

[jjaram]

Nice job Phil [up]

[ataylor]

you gonna throw them on your car to show us, or is that not in your contract? ;)

[fly300kts]

I can't because I have OEM Xenon.

Phil

[ataylor]

ah - I thought perhaps the buyer wanted to be "the first", haha [up]

[rg_a4]

as soon as Phil sends them back to me, i'm putting them right in...i may even take the day off of work lolz

[fly300kts]

You better take the day off [up]

[JmacZX7r]

I'm sold![:D] The one thing i was scared of was getting the DRL's and having them all dull and lame. Great solution. I have halogens so anything hid is better. Good thing we have a master craftsman that took the challenge. Can you pm the price for the new LED install on those? I'm also very interested in the LED tails. The one thing i have wanted from the day i got my B7. Thanks!

[rg_a4]

Phil what did i tell you once people saw the pics of these lol :)

[fly300kts]

^^ Will see my Friend, you are the only order for now

Phil

[Spiff69]

Big improvement, nice job! - still would like to see them on the car to make a final judgement.

[maka]

God dammit. Phil, you're brill. I'll be sending you the new b8 replicas as soon i find out if they work with a bixenon plug and if you can retro my bi-xenons in there.

[TonyD]

Interesting. How was the headlight sealed? Like the B6 or the B7?

Asking again because if it's sealant that's reusable and not glue, I may buy the LEDs from you and do it on my b6.

[Sal_B7]

Thats awesome Phil!!! Good thinking to the guy who sent you the Dectanes. Good Work man!!!

[Jer]

Wish I could move my Xenon's over to that housing. Looks sharp!

[redlabel81]

Asking again because if it's sealant that's reusable and not glue, I may buy the LEDs from you and do it on my b6.

Not sure what you are after here.....The dectanes or Phils LEDs.
If you are asking if you can open your OEM headlights and reuse the seal than yes.

[redlabel81]

Hehe just realised something....They are under your surgery.....That would make you dr. Phil! Wuhu!

[KR2]

^^ Will see my Friend, you are the only order for now

Phil

Phil,
VERY keen on getting new headlights...
How much do you do the Dectane conversion for?
How much for OEM xenons with V3?
Shipped to Australia?
Any chance of making them RHD?
sorry for being demanding, but I would be totally sold if you could do RHD xenon LEDs!

Kenny

[TonyD]

Not sure what you are after here.....The dectanes or Phils LEDs.
If you are asking if you can open your OEM headlights and reuse the seal than yes.

Yeah I didn't really make it clear, but I think Phil knows what I'm talking about.

I already had Phil's LEDs but moved on to the HELIX s5 replica headlights which are identical to these Dectane headlights, just made for B6. One of the reasons I moved on to the HELIX is because when I put Phils LEDs in my OEM headlights, I trashed them due to opening them up. They use a glue to seal the B6 headlights where as I think Phil said the B7s use a sealant that is reusable unlike the B6s.

So what I'm asking is do the Dectane headlights use a glue like the B6 or a sealant like the b7?

[redlabel81]

Ah........Guess I'll leave that for Phil to answer then....Sorry for sticking my nose in it. :)

[fly300kts]

Yeah I didn't really make it clear, but I think Phil knows what I'm talking about.

I already had Phil's LEDs but moved on to the HELIX s5 replica headlights which are identical to these Dectane headlights, just made for B6. One of the reasons I moved on to the HELIX is because when I put Phils LEDs in my OEM headlights, I trashed them due to opening them up. They use a glue to seal the B6 headlights where as I think Phil said the B7s use a sealant that is reusable unlike the B6s.

So what I'm asking is do the Dectane headlights use a glue like the B6 or a sealant like the b7?

Hi Tony,

The catch is: none of the two
I had to use a release agent to separate the housing without damages

Phil

[fly300kts]

Phil,
VERY keen on getting new headlights...
How much do you do the Dectane conversion for?
How much for OEM xenons with V3?
Shipped to Australia?
Any chance of making them RHD?
sorry for being demanding, but I would be totally sold if you could do RHD xenon LEDs!

Kenny

You have PM Kenny
For information, RHD is not an issue, I can modify the Dectanes [wrench]

Phil

[ataylor]

Hi Tony,

The catch is: none of the two
I had to use a release agent to separate the housing without damages

Phil

this is why I don't do these types of things on my car [up] I went stage 2+ before even trying anything cosmetic, because it's best left to people like Dr. Phil! I would have done what Tony@AE did to his B6 lamps, for sure.

Now I'm tempted to buy some all black Helix's and send them along sooner than I planned, instead of buying summer tires [o_o]

Dr.Fly can you PM me price for the LED upgrade in the Dectane/Helix's?

[fly300kts]

PM sent [up]

[bagher]

how come your LED's are so expensive? I thought LEDs were cheap?

[Brownie85]

how come your LED's are so expensive? I thought LEDs were cheap?

Well as you can see the ones that came with the Dectane Headlights are cheap LEDS, and his are expensive because they look 5x brighter?

[05.5SilverS4]

how come your LED's are so expensive? I thought LEDs were cheap?
Look at how incredibly bright they are...

[bagher]

so the brighter the more expensive?

[tselod05]

Great work Phil! I can't wait to get my V3's in [:D]

[Minglor]

how come your LED's are so expensive? I thought LEDs were cheap?


Not really sure what the actual cost of the LEDs are but you are also paying for his time, research and quality of work

[bagher]

Not really sure what the cost of his LEDs are but you are also paying for his time/research and quality of work

Totally understandable, but he keeps talking about how his costs are high. Just curious as to what constitutes different qualities of LEDs

[rg_a4]

Totally understandable, but he keeps talking about how his costs are high. Just curious as to what constitutes different qualities of LEDs

If you knew the work he has to do to actually get these to work with car without producing error codes and what not, plus the cost of the LEDS from wherever he buys them + shipping, and other materials... i'm sure that all adds up.

[airbornerifleman]

Phil, loving your work.
Is there any way to retro some sorte of LED reflector (like the Dectane Hedlights or the OEM B8 headlights) in our OEM Bi-Xenons to make the LED brighter than the V3s? Dont get me wrong I like your V3s. I have your V2s and like them at night time but I want something brighter for the day time, I dont think the V3s are bright enough (during the day) for my taste. Plus I like the rectangle look of the light output on the OEM B8 and Dectane Hedlights vice the V3 round look. CA$H in not an issue.

[fly300kts]

Totally understandable, but he keeps talking about how his costs are high. Just curious as to what constitutes different qualities of LEDs

To try to answer your questions:
I get the LED from Germany. The type I use are only build in small quantities and I do pay for that. In life, you pay for quality and this is another example (only ones I found reted up to 100,000 hrs of use). I do pay International Priority Freight to get them + Custom fees.
Then, for the Dectane for example, I need to fabricate a circuit board as interface (you can't plug them them directly to a 12V source). Then, you need to make sure that all the above does not trigger a fault code. Just to let you know, I don't even count my labor for all of this.
As previously said, this is not a source of revenue for me, I do that for fun.

I hope you understand but you are free to try and do better for less, I would definitively respect that [up]

Phil

[airbornerifleman]

Great work once again Phil.
Is there any way for you to retro some LED REFLACTORS like the B8 or Dectane Headlights? Don't get me wrong I know your V3s they are bright and I already have your V2s. I just don't think they (V2 and V3) are bright enough during the day for my taste. The LED used for you V3s have suffice output, they just need that extra UMPH that a REFLECTOR can provide (proven by the Dectane Headligh LED retro you are currently working on) What I’m looking for is the same rectangle like light output found on the B8 and Dectane Headlights.

[fly300kts]

Great work Phil! I can't wait to get my V3's in [:D]

Working on them my Friend [up]

Phil

[fly300kts]

Great work once again Phil.
Is there any way for you to retro some LED REFLACTORS like the B8 or Dectane Headlights? Don't get me wrong I know your V3s they are bright and I already have your V2s. I just don't think they (V2 and V3) are bright enough during the day for my taste. The LED used for you V3s have suffice output, they just need that extra UMPH that a REFLECTOR can provide (proven by the Dectane Headligh LED retro you are currently working on) What I’m looking for is the same rectangle like light output found on the B8 and Dectane Headlights.

Well, I really see what you mean but here is the main issue: To come up with something like this, no other way than than Injection Molding with Chrome treatment. You need, at list, a $5000 deposit with the Molding company to come up with a prototype. Then, with the Xenons for example, the profile will be too high and will obstruct the headlight beam.
Now, I can tell you that the pictures of the V3 don't really make justice. The LED on the V3 are embeded to the profile and act as reflector. I use the same type of LED on both and trust me, not a really big difference of brightness between the V3 & Dectanes with the reflectors.


Phil

[maka]

seriously, phil needs to be called Dr.phil, dr.fly, or even ninja phil for how awesome he is with these lights.

[fly300kts]

seriously, phil needs to be called Dr.phil, dr.fly, or even ninja phil for how awesome he is with these lights.

Not sure about that [:D]
Just having fun and trying to be creative for the Community [wrench] [up]

[Hyphy]

Phil has done it again.

XD

[fly300kts]

Phil has done it again.

XD

Hyphy, give me a call. I am going to need your car to test the set and make sure the circuit board is doing his job and prevent any code

Phil

[Hyphy]

Hyphy, give me a call. I am going to need your car to test the set and make sure the circuit board is doing his job and prevent any code

Phil

ok

[inertia]

Looks awesome Phil! [up]

[rg_a4]

Can't wait to see them on my car :)

[dj_dub]

That looks fantastic!! Great work! I may have to buy a set of these and send them to you for surgery! [;)]

Luckily I have a local supplier of these at my disposal... [up]

[fly300kts]

Few details of the surgery:

Still don't understand why they installed this smoked piece of plastic in front of the turn signal
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0330Small.jpg

So the trim had to go
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0338Small.jpg

Now the problem: because the piece was in place with screws, I had to plug this
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0332Small.jpg

and this
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0333Small.jpg

Routed 2 little piece of chromed plastic and voila
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0335Small.jpg

Also painted in black (used to be smoked) the trim below the high beam
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_0337Small.jpg

I will test my wiring tomorrow on a donor car to make sure the circuit board I installed does his job. Then, back in the box, will be shipped overnight to the Owner for Wednesday delivery. I let him be the judge

Phil

[ZEM930]

WOW Phil! Once again lol

I want to see these on a car!

[rg_a4]

Phil, you're insane. Thanks so much, again! :)

[fly300kts]

Your welcome [;)]

[SDQuattroDriver]

Can't wait to see these on your car! I may have to pick up a set [:)]

[fly300kts]

RG_A4, good news:
Tested on the Donor this afternoon (nasty weather) and the Circuit Board is doing the Job [up]: No codes
Packing the headlights now. You will receive them Wednesday
Let me know

Phil

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/IMG_4781Large.jpg

[aznpxdd]

Nice...can't wait to see these on a car.

[bmc333]

[o_o] very nice!!!

[rg_a4]

I think that looks great. very pleased with that picture.

[Spiff69]

Very nice upgrade! They are definitely much brighter and think the color looks a little better too.

Donor car could use some Fly surgery too [:D]

[fly300kts]

^^^ Beleive it or not, it's the Company car. Audi all the way [up]

[redlabel81]

That looks so much better then the stock leds! Damn good work Mr! :) Did you whey the box yet? :)

[fly300kts]

That looks so much better then the stock leds! Damn good work Mr! :) Did you whey the box yet? :)

Yes, 20 Lbs

phil

[redlabel81]

^^ ;) can you PM me with the price for shipping to Norway?

[fly300kts]

^^ ;) can you PM me with the price for shipping to Norway?

PM sent [up]

[bagher]

Well, I really see what you mean but here is the main issue: To come up with something like this, no other way than than Injection Molding with Chrome treatment. You need, at list, a $5000 deposit with the Molding company to come up with a prototype. Then, with the Xenons for example, the profile will be too high and will obstruct the headlight beam.
Now, I can tell you that the pictures of the V3 don't really make justice. The LED on the V3 are embeded to the profile and act as reflector. I use the same type of LED on both and trust me, not a really big difference of brightness between the V3 & Dectanes with the reflectors.


Phil

Thank you for the insight as to where the costs go. I did not mean to come off as rude or negative in my posting.

[ngng]

Yes they are [:D]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/Tail%20Lights/IMG_8293Large.jpg

I didn't like this at first, but it has grown on me [up]

[4ty-phive]

Yes they are [:D]

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/Tail%20Lights/IMG_8293Large.jpg

So how do I get my hands on these?

[morpheus.at]

Hi Phil,
can you PM me the schematic, an the bill of material to do the upgarde on my own dectanes?

[redlabel81]

^^ hehe laugh out loud!

[fly300kts]

So how do I get my hands on these?

You have PM

Phil

[morpheus.at]

how do i get these backlights?
thank you#

[zachf88]

pm Phil (fly300kts) he does them. I want them soo bad but I'm having a ridiculous time trying to find oem tail lights. I will not purchase them from the stealership!

[golfvdude]

pm Phil (fly300kts) he does them. I want them soo bad but I'm having a ridiculous time trying to find oem tail lights. I will not purchase them from the stealership!

Try genuineaudiparts.

[rg_a4]

Lights are due in tomorrow (9/9), shall i start a new thread after the install or post'em in here.... that way people won't bitch to me about starting a new thread or whatever :)

[fly300kts]

Lights are due in tomorrow (9/9), shall i start a new thread after the install or post'em in here.... that way people won't bitch to me about starting a new thread or whatever :)

[:D]lol

[rg_a4]

Here's a teaser of the upgrade from my mobile! More to come later from a real camera!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/rdg140/newled.jpg

[Coderedpl]

Here's a teaser of the upgrade from my mobile! More to come later from a real camera!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/rdg140/newled.jpg

post a new topic with before and after pics. cant see much now

[rg_a4]

before
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/rdg140/DSC02346.jpg

after
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/rdg140/newled.jpg

[rg_a4]

and the new led pic still looks better on a cell phone vs the old pic taken with my camera

[rg_a4]

another before and after :)
BEFORE:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/rdg140/DSC02341.jpg
AFTER:
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/rdg140/DSC02357.jpg

and one for good luck..
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/rdg140/DSC02361.jpg

[05.5SilverS4]

Phil is a beast.

[rg_a4]

Phil is a beast.
True Story.

[rg_a4]

a factory S5...
http://bestaudidealer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/a5.jpg

[Koby]

Big improvement, they actually look like daytime running lights. Before they were just lights.

[ataylor]

are the LED's even on in the "before" pics? damn.. the ONLY way to rock these headlights is with the upgrade

[fly300kts]

Phil is a beast.

Not sure about that [:D]
But I am glad you like them. As I told you, Wagcom the turn signals and install the OEM Chrome bulbs, then you will be good to go [up]
It was a pleasure RG_A4

Phil

[IceMole]

now just vag the ambers off [:)]

[rg_a4]

now just vag the ambers off [:)]

haha yea i know, that's my next task...i don't have it though i need to find someone who does for a quick hit :)

[fly300kts]

Come to Miami, I have it [up]

[rg_a4]

Come to Miami, I have it [up]

Yes! I'll leave now, see you tomorrow night. pwnage [:(]

[fly300kts]

Any night pics?

[Weem]

looks gorgeous cant wait to get mine (soon i hope)!

[Spiff69]

The before pic looks like just light reflection instead of led's

[rg_a4]

Any night pics?

the best quality is that one pic in my garage. i tried to take some night shots tonight but it's just a big blur of light hha. they look awesome

[maka]

You need to mail phil some hugs because these look better than an a5. Phil, get ready because as soon as the B8 looking lights are released i'm coming to ya.

[Coderedpl]

haha yea i know, that's my next task...i don't have it though i need to find someone who does for a quick hit :)

Telling you man, you gotta drop by nyc. it takes all of maybe 5 mins if not less

[redlabel81]

Damn that's so sweet!!! Love it. Great upgrade

[rg_a4]

Telling you man, you gotta drop by nyc. it takes all of maybe 5 mins if not less

you gotta let me know when you are avail.

[Nobuttsechs4me]

I am now a big believer. Time to save and hide some funds from the girlfriend

[fly300kts]

You need to mail phil some hugs because these look better than an a5. Phil, get ready because as soon as the B8 looking lights are released i'm coming to ya.

I am here and ready [:D]

Phil

[minameismud]

phil, any pricing ideas for this surgery?

[fly300kts]

^^ I just sent you a PM

Phil

[minameismud]

thx - now i gotta save even more!

[bloodstar57]

How are the connections if you have bi-xenon and adaptive lighting

[fly300kts]

How are the connections if you have bi-xenon and adaptive lighting

I would not even try for 2 reasons:

1/ The headlights (Dectanes or others) are NOT rated for HID kit and for a simple reason: If you even try, the housing around the main bulb will be melted in less than 5 mn: It is only made with plastic, no metal part to sheild the heat.

2/ The connector with Adaptive BI-Xenons has 12 pins while the Halogens has only 5. I would be a real nightmarre to try to swap and not have any fault code, and for the reason #1, it makes even less sense

Phil

[Coderedpl]

I would not even try for 2 reasons:

1/ The headlights (Dectanes or others) are NOT rated for HID kit and for a simple reason: If you even try, the housing around the main bulb will be melted in less than 5 mn: It is only made with plastic, no metal part to sheild the heat.

2/ The connector with Adaptive BI-Xenons has 12 pins while the Halogens has only 5. I would be a real nightmarre to try to swap and not have any fault code, and for the reason #1, it makes even less sense

Phil

So you're saying if someone put HIDS in the dectanes they would melt?
Must not be the case since i dont see other guys having this problem.

I apologize if i misunderstood your post though

[fly300kts]

So you're saying if someone put HIDS in the dectanes they would melt?
Must not be the case since i dont see other guys having this problem.

I apologize if i misunderstood your post though

Yes, this is what I am saying:
On each headlight, there is a sign like this:

NO HID
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c395/fly300kts/images.jpg

[felondnb]

that's interesting - there's a seller on eBay offering these headlights with an HID kit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-05-06-07-08-A4-B7-LED-DRL-DEVIL-EYE-HEADLIGHT-HID_W0QQitemZ170373771900QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car sParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item27ab11727c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[fly300kts]

that's interesting - there's a seller on eBay offering these headlights with an HID kit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-05-06-07-08-A4-B7-LED-DRL-DEVIL-EYE-HEADLIGHT-HID_W0QQitemZ170373771900QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Car sParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item27ab11727c&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Indeed interesting. I am just telling you what I saw. I checked but unfortunately, did not take a picture of it.

Phil

[minameismud]

no hid? redlabel81, how are your housings doing with your 6k hids?

i thought HIDs ran cooler than halogens.

[fly300kts]

^^ Oh no they don't

phil

[plokm]

^^ Oh no they don't

phil

strange most website that sell hid kit always says it run cooler than halogen bulbs..oh well whatever

[fly300kts]

They call the "light temperature cooler". In fact the bulb temperature is almost x1.5 higher with a HID compared to a regular bulb

Phil

[Coderedpl]

Indeed interesting. I am just telling you what I saw. I checked but unfortunately, did not take a picture of it.

Phil
redlabel81 is running an HID kit and as far as i know his headlights are still alive.....maybe not recommended but not possible? Doubt it.

[fly300kts]

^^ Hey Man, you can always do what ever you want in life as long as you acknowledge the consequences [;)]. Just sharing what the headlight Manufacturer is warning you about

phil

[ataylor]

That's what audi said about my ECU, too.

Fly, what can be done to the headlights to allow for for the temperature? Any kind of coatings/protection that can be applied to the housing? Surely if there was a way for you to put hid projectors in these headlights.. you would have come on here to tell us it was possible, and that you're willing to take our money for the job!? I would hope so!

So, assuming Fly's answer is "nothing can be done", we just wait for Redlabel to come tell us.. something?

[fly300kts]

Yes it can be done. If someone send me a set of Dectane + 2 projectors that will fit the diameter, I can give it a shot
I regret that I did not take any picture of the Dectanes inside: Everything is made of plastic and the main bulb housing is hold in place with sheet metal screws into plastic. I would be really concern if you drop an HID kit on them...but again, I don't know shit so it might last

phil

[Perspolis]

Do you think TSX or S2k Projectors would fit?

[fly300kts]

I haven't seen them in person. Do you have a picture of them? Do you know the lense diameter?

[Perspolis]

^ both are 2.5" in diameter, so they're relatively small.

[ngng]

^^ Oh no they don't

phil

xenons run cooler than halogens

[freeflow]

^^ yep

HID's are apprx 3X Brighter, yet have 35% less power consumption, thus generate much less heat during operation.

This is due to the fact that HID rely on an electrical charge to ignite xenon gas in a sealed bulb, similar to the lightning phenomenon in the sky. HID lighting does not have a filament but instead creates light by igniting an electrical discharge between two electrodes in an air tight tiny quartz capsule filled with xenon gas

Phil, my guess is that the sticker is there to tell you visually that the unit does not come with an HID kit installed.

[minameismud]

^^ yep

HID's are apprx 3X Brighter, yet have 35% less power consumption, thus generate much less heat during operation.

This is due to the fact that HID rely on an electrical charge to ignite xenon gas in a sealed bulb, similar to the lightning phenomenon in the sky. HID lighting does not have a filament but instead creates light by igniting an electrical discharge between two electrodes in an air tight tiny quartz capsule filled with xenon gas

Phil, my guess is that the sticker is there to tell you visually that the unit does not come with an HID kit installed.

...or that the reflector is shaped for a halogen filament and HIDs won't produce a proper beam pattern?

[fly300kts]

^ both are 2.5" in diameter, so they're relatively small.

Well, in this case, if someone has a set of Dectane and a spare set of Projectors, I am willing to try

Phil

[redlabel81]

No problem here with my housings running mTec HIDs. :) It does say no HIDS on the headlights, but I think this is because of the design of the lense.?
E

[Perspolis]

how do you guys think these would look if they were whited out on an Ibis A4?

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

^^ Sick! But of course you gotta have fly's LED's to go with! [:)]

[fly300kts]

^^ Sick! But of course you gotta have fly's LED's to go with! [:)]

Indeed [:D]
Phil

[rg_a4]

thread is still goin! YEAH!!! good morning.

[fly300kts]

^^ Where are the latest pictures with a good camera? [:D]

Phil

[rg_a4]

haha, they're coming i haven't had time to do a "photo shoot"

[ataylor]

how do you guys think these would look if they were whited out on an Ibis A4?


I think the white-out headlights on an ibis white would look good..

BUT the all-black dectanes, with fly's LED's, on an ibis white A4 with titanium pkg/modded plastidip would look EVEN better.

[rg_a4]

I think the white-out headlights on an ibis white would look good..

BUT the all-black dectanes, with fly's LED's, on an ibis white A4 with titanium pkg/modded plastidip would look EVEN better.

agreed taylor...that'd look pretty sick. [up]

[theklug]

Hey, rg_a4!

You wouldn't perhaps been valeting your car at mohegan sun yesterday would you? haha I work as a valet up there and I think I may have parked your a4...I saw it pull up and was like OMG AN A5, then realized it was some sweet dectane's with some really bright LED's....then I put one and one together and realized it just had to been you with FLY's kit.

It's absolutely stunning, something that needs to been seen in person and not on pictures posted online.

[fly300kts]

Something that I am trying to explain for a long time:
Pictures don't make justice, you need to see them in person and this is valid for both, the Dectane upgrade or my V3's

Phil