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awtst3.a6
07-09-2009, 07:25 AM
2001 Audi a6 2.7TT – Automatic 5 Speed

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/turboname.jpg

I would first like to thank http://www.vastperformance.com/ for making this possible, and for all of the support they have given me throughout the ups and downs. Thank you Prince for always running your ass off, and getting everything together in such a short period of time. Thanks for dealing with me as well haha. You know it is bad when you call Vast and you get, "Sup Sam!", other than a hello? How may I help you? :).Everything looks amazing and I hope the install goes well. I would also like to thank Mike at Vast for the tuning. He has been an awesome guy to deal with and makes crazy maps for sure :) I hope we can get this GT file ripping before Waterfest aka 1 week.Hopefully I will get to meet this crew one day, because they are a great bunch of guys and know what I am about about… SPEEED!!! OVER HYPE!!! I would also like to thank my tech Jon. Thank you all for making this happen and I hope to back it up with some numbers :D

2001 Audi a6 2.7TT
Engine: Stock 2.7 – Rev Limit 7350rpms
Rods: Stock
Valve springs: Stock
Cams: rs4
Intake Manifold: Stock
Exhaust Manifold: Stock
Throttle Body: Port and polish ( By Vast )
Turbos: GT2560’s aka gt28r
-ARD inlets
Wastegates: Internal
MAF: going back to Bosch I believe in the future for high psi. 88mm right now Hitachi.
Injectors: #60
Fuel Pump: 255lph
Fuel Pressure Regulator: 3 bar
Intake: Custom rs4 box with k&n filter
ECU Tune: Custom Vast Performance
TCU Tune: Custom Vast Performance (Remap of the TCU race profile for the built trans, stall converter and to take the 7350 rev limit)
Transmission: Fully built, valve body, clutches ect. ect. ( www.517trans.com )
Stall converter: 3250-3500 stall
Intercooler(s): AWE (with custom cut shrouds)
Mounts: 034 snub mount/cage, stern engine mounts, stock tranny mounts
Exhaust: straight pipe to apr cats.
Fuel: 93 octane / meth



The build is going to be done today or tomorrow, if everything goes well. Only thing I will be waiting on is my TCU to show up tomorrow (Friday) or Sat. I have my baseline tune waiting on the server to be uploaded :D I should be able to give you guys some good detailed information once I get the car running. I know a lot of you are out there wondering if it really worth the money? Can it be done on a stock block? What is it going to spool like? ect.. I hope to have the answers to all of these questions VERY shortly. I am hoping this weekend on 9psi adleast :D

GT break-in file – 93octane/meth
-1.25 Bar of boost
-7350 rpm rev limit
-Methanol, ~25deg timing up top
-EGT sensors deleted
-rear o2 sensors deleted
-catalytics deleted
-Secondary air system deleted

Here are a few pics of the turbos, inlets and engine mounts. I will be uploading pics of the trans, engine ect later today as well. Also I would like to note that my tech removed my turbos/trans with out removing the engine. :D This is the second time I saw it done and thought some of you would be interested in that style.

ARD INLETS, STERN ENEGINE MOUNTS, and P/P TB

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/inletsmounts.jpg



Front of Drivers side gt2560(gt28r)
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/front1ofgt28r.jpg

Front side again

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/frontofgt28r.jpg

Side of GT

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/side.jpg

Hot Side
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/backofgt28r.jpg

Audi a6 2.7T 2001 STOCK you could say I was pumped ;P

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/mecar.jpg

Thank you for all of the support and haters :D
I hope to have videos within a week!!

Ragno
07-09-2009, 07:34 AM
Why since there as been a project and build section has everyone put there builds in here.... [:/]

veggiemonster
07-09-2009, 07:40 AM
Why since there as been a project and build section has everyone put there builds in here.... [:/]

the mods dont trust our own judgement?

wdbdy2000s4
07-09-2009, 07:53 AM
we can't post in the build forums. they have to move them...some projects (like my own) aren't worthy of that section so they stay here.

S4_NE
07-09-2009, 08:06 AM
nice and good luck, the 517 trans is a great one, i am running it know in my stg 3 car and she takes a beating with out an issue,

Ragno
07-09-2009, 08:19 AM
we can't post in the build forums. they have to move them...some projects (like my own) aren't worthy of that section so they stay here.

Damn Audizine pisses me off sometimes; what do they think were dumb?

Sorry to hijack ur thread BTW.. you build sounds Amazing, can't wait to see some videos...

wdbdy2000s4
07-09-2009, 08:23 AM
everyone should be allowed a build thread, regardless of how useless it is to everyone else. That way they can post all their mods in 1 thread and people can see everything done to various cars, rather then users having a new thread for rims, chip, exhaust, shift knob, boost gauge, etc.

Back on topic. Good luck with the build Sam...Get that shit up to Waterfest!! We'll get videos of racing some stage 3s, possibly Rs6d s4, and HOPEFULLY guru. It will be a good camparison for everyone interested in those turbos! Can't wait for some results man.[up]

ThirdStrike
07-09-2009, 09:09 AM
60mm turbos + stock rods? really?
kind of pointless dont you think?

awtst3.a6
07-09-2009, 09:12 AM
60mm turbos + stock rods? really?
kind of pointless dont you think?

Nope. Thanks and I knew ppl were going to say wrong forum :P

Thank you for the support! I should have pics of the built trans and some more of the car today. I am heading out to the shop to drop off everything :D Ohh... and I am 100% going to run stage 3 s4's, or for the ppl who think it is "pointless" :D. I would also like to run some other shit as well, I wouldn't mind getting mopped by Guru!


EDIT: down the road I am rebuilding the motor to a 2.8 or a 3.0 head with rods ect. My goal is 600-650awhp on the auto trans when I am done. For right now 500-550awhp, which should be EASY on like 18 lbs.

ThirdStrike
07-09-2009, 09:14 AM
Nope.

ok so why not explain why you'd run 28Rs on stock rods? anything past 15psi and youre just driving on a prayer...

awtst3.a6
07-09-2009, 09:20 AM
ok so why not explain why you'd run 28Rs on stock rods? anything past 15psi and youre just driving on a prayer...

Uhhhh? on 15 psi lol? more like 24-26 I would break it. EDIT: Also I plan on buying a used block to build :D... seems to be the best route.

Sales@RAI
07-09-2009, 09:20 AM
Damn Audizine pisses me off sometimes; what do they think were dumb?

Sorry to hijack ur thread BTW.. you build sounds Amazing, can't wait to see some videos...

Its a generalization because there are some people on here that dont know what a project is, I've seen the b5 a4 project forum get cluttered with bs threads that have nothing to do with projects

ThirdStrike
07-09-2009, 09:31 AM
Uhhhh? on 15 psi lol? more like 24-26 I would break it. EDIT: Also I plan on buying a used block to build :D... seems to be the best route.

wow. youre ahead of the pack.
run 28R's on stock rods and buy another short-block just in case instead of spending ~750-900 on some decent rods while the motor is out.. and im glad you figure 24 psi is the breaking point on stock rods with 60mm turbos. good luck[up]

AudiSportB5S4
07-09-2009, 09:35 AM
wow. youre ahead of the pack.
run 28R's on stock rods and buy another short-block just in case instead of spending ~750-900 on some decent rods while the motor is out.. and im glad you figure 24 psi is the breaking point on stock rods with 60mm turbos. good luck[up]

VAST is tuning it,

you remember this right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAWaJbb9Dx4

Piggies car on stock motor with 2860s

blackbenzz
07-09-2009, 09:43 AM
Finally someone got smart and built an auto [>_<]

ThirdStrike
07-09-2009, 09:44 AM
VAST is tuning it,

you remember this right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAWaJbb9Dx4

Piggies car on stock motor with 2860s

[rolleyes]
and i bet you think the pressure release chatter in that video sounds good too huh?

so is it a consensus that running stock rods with 28R's@20+ psi is safe now? lol

RolledMySTi
07-09-2009, 10:57 AM
For right now 500-550awhp, which should be EASY on like 18 lbs.

That's an easy way to throw a rod through the block.

Do rods now,be done with it and enjoy the car.

S4_NE
07-09-2009, 11:02 AM
Finally someone got smart and built an auto [>_<]

there are a few of us running build 517 trans out there, i had mine build up to hold K04 power and beyound, with GT kits getting more resonable i may do this too if i run into the cash to do it,

ThirdStrike
07-09-2009, 11:03 AM
That's an easy way to throw a rod through the block.

Do rods now,be done with it and enjoy the car.

what your crazy. it should hold 24 psi lol

Ragno
07-09-2009, 11:07 AM
Its a generalization because there are some people on here that dont know what a project is, I've seen the b5 a4 project forum get cluttered with bs threads that have nothing to do with projects

Woudn't it then be easier to remove or move the miss posted threads... then not allow people to post their builds... It looks like right now you guys only let people with GT, Single turbo, or something unique motor wise... but how about a cosmetically driven project where the person is just doing minor changes that are only visual.. but still wants it all organized in one thread.

wdbdy2000s4
07-09-2009, 11:12 AM
relax guys...I'm pretty sure Mike@VAST knows WAY more about tuning these cars than anyone on AZ and he will do his best to keep the rods from poking through the block. While the 28s aren't the ideal setup for a 2.7 by any means, he has made it quite clear he is going to do a full motor build including heads in the future. Should he just buy the 2554s for now and pick up the 28s when he builds the motor? NO! he is avoiding the need for new turbos in the future by getting bigger turbos now. Even on lower boost these things will be far better then his k03 setup.

...Everyone blew their loads when the ATP shit came out...so stop knocking the only guy willing to give them a shot. Now we can see how they will react on a stock block as well as a built motor when he goes that route in the future.

wdbdy2000s4
07-09-2009, 11:13 AM
Woudn't it then be easier to remove or move the miss posted threads... then not allow people to post their builds... It looks like right now you guys only let people with GT, Single turbo, or something unique motor wise... but how about a cosmetically driven project where the person is just doing minor changes that are only visual.. but still wants it all organized in one thread.

...More then half the threads in there have been dead for 6 months plus.[rolleyes]
lol

AudiSportB5S4
07-09-2009, 11:17 AM
relax guys...I'm pretty sure Mike@VAST knows WAY more about tuning these cars than anyone on AZ

Exactly! I wouldn't worry. [drive]

Will be cool though, how many GT'd A6's are there? Not too many I believe right? Or is this the first?

NYEuroTuner
07-09-2009, 11:18 AM
Uhhhh? on 15 psi lol? more like 24-26 I would break it. EDIT: Also I plan on buying a used block to build :D... seems to be the best route.


This project looks interesting, will be good to see an Auto 2.7tt ripp it up a bit. Best of luck with your project [up]


Also, dont mean to Hijack the thread. But..

I have two long blocks for sale... Really cheap.


http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3945095#post3945095

ThirdStrike
07-09-2009, 12:26 PM
relax guys...I'm pretty sure Mike@VAST knows WAY more about tuning these cars than anyone on AZ and he will do his best to keep the rods from poking through the block.

i agree.. just sayin do it right once ...
if i were paying someone to do work on my car id be in it for the long run.. a shortblock costs money that could be spent on rods. oh well, ima shutup now

wdbdy2000s4
07-09-2009, 12:40 PM
^ I would do an entire motor build and a full GT kit as well. I'm not going to complain though because Sam is trying something new and giving us the results we could all expect on a stock block setup. This will give him an idea of how far he has to go with the motor build as well. If it's having trouble spooling then he may need to go 3.0 with some head work for a higher redline and faster spool, if it's spooling fine (like the Tials) then a set of rods and valve springs should do(like JohnnyBravo's old car).

awtst3.a6
07-09-2009, 02:13 PM
Thank you widebody, I am trying to avoid buying another set of turbos even if I am running these on the stock block. I just don't have all of the cash to build the motor right now. Also my tech is a GREAT guy and pulled the turbos/trans without removing the whole motor. This takes WAY less time than pulling the whole motor. So I got a great quote for labor on my trans/turbo instal. He also told me if we end up rebuilding the head/bottom end he has no problem giving me a deal. :D I am also selling my company soon with my dad which I run.. i will have a good bit of money for sure to build my extra block. Sadly I just ran out of funds and rather have that extra money in my pocket for right now :). I know I will eat 1k later down the road in labor but it will be worth a fully built motor vs just rods. I am planning on going with a 3.0L fully built motor something like guru's in the future for sure. You guys have to remember this is a auto trans and can only hold so much power its self. Why i think the gt2560's were the right pick for my turbo application. They should also be the best turbos to spool/run on a stock block vs the gt2554. It just allows you to flow more boost which GURU ran out of on gt2554s. I have thought every angle through 100%.

SIDE NOTES:
ARD inlet design changed (within the last day or two?) ... We will need to custom flare the inlets to fit how we want. If you look at the site they provide a flare to go outside the inlet on the turbo. Also the inlets are about the size as the rs4 ko4 inlets if you guys were wondering. I found they are just lighter and thicker ways.

APT eliminator kit: YOU DO NOT!! get the 6 bolts needed to mount the exhaust manifold to the turbos. You will need these bolts. You can not use normal bolts. You will need the audi turbo bolts.

EDIT***

Mike at Vast ftw :)


I will try and keep little side notes of things I need to mod to make them fit. Audis :P

awtst3.a6
07-09-2009, 02:47 PM
Here is the car on 18lbs 93octane + meth. The car wasn't even tuned for meth yet. When I got it tuned for meth.. I ended up blowing the ko4s a week or two after that before I could film it :(

BEFORE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyFIt70lVRs

Updated pics from the shop:

Fully built Trans: (only thing that looks different is the outside of the stall converter)

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/tran.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/trans2.jpg

Car from the back:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/carfromtheback.jpg

JUNK IN THE TRUNK:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/junkintrunk.jpg

Car with engine still in it :D
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/hoodup.jpg

Engine:

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/engineagain.jpg

I am going to give my tech my camera so he can snap a few pictures throughout the instal as well. :D The car will be running on Monday since we didn't know we needed bolts when they say they supply everything. Let alone that I even called the tech support line.

NYEuroTuner
07-09-2009, 02:52 PM
Niceeee

awtst3.a6
07-10-2009, 05:14 PM
Thurs: We found out that we didn't have 6 of the bolts (from audi of course) for the exhaust manifold to mount onto the turbo. There was no hose provided from ATP or ard for the turbine to the inlet. We had to call Vast and get everything ASAP(nextday air ftw.)

Friday: Parts are in.

Soo the instal started today.. there were a few bumps along the way. For one, we had to re-route all of the coolant/oil lines for the turbos on each side. This only took an extra 30 mins to an hour to make sure everything was cleaned up (wiring wise). Once we did that we got a call from Vast!! We were told we can remove the EGT sensors as well as the secondary air pump system. We welded the EGTs to the exhaust manifold to fill the hole where they use to be [up]. With removing what we have we need to weld up some aluminum to fill gaps where the secondary air pump system use to be (to warm up the cats.. I don't own any cats? [up]). This has given us a BUNCH more room to work in the back of the engine bay. Aswell get rid of all that worthless shit. It made it nice aswell because we had to mess with all of the coolants lines right in the back of the engine( remember the engine is still in it ). Other than the coolant and oil lines, we found out that we need the stock hose or longer samco hose that connect to each turbo. Although there were a few bumps for about an hour.. once we got through that we are ready to mount the turbos up Monday morning. The car should be up monday(85% chance) afternoon or tuesday at the lastest. I will hopefully have a video camera :). Pictures of the full instal will be provided by my tech for me Monday. I left my camera at the shop so I am unable to show you pics on what I am talking about. I am sorry and hopefully will have videos of 9psi and pics ASAP.

jibberjive
07-11-2009, 03:27 AM
Can you post details about the issues with the coolant/oil lines?

awtst3.a6
07-11-2009, 06:44 AM
Can you post details about the issues with the coolant/oil lines?

I will have my tech type up what he had to do, if he doesn't mind. It wasnt TO much of a bitch just held us up for a little. No problem though. I will touch base with my tech on Monday. I know we did have to make the coolants lines longer and are using some of the stock parts with the aftermarket ones to get it to fit.

The samco hose on the passenger side is about 2-3 inches short*. It needs to be 4-5inches long adleast to reach. We are going back to the stock hose we have to custom make haha

awtst3.a6
07-14-2009, 04:30 PM
Some pics from the build :P ... The car is going to be up and running tomorrow morning if all goes well [up].

The Start

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/thestart.jpg

034 snub mount/cage

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/034snubmount.jpg

Secondary air system delete

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/secondaryairpumppwned.jpg

Again...

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/secondaryairpumppwned1.jpg

Pass side turbo bolted in with out inlets

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/passengersidegt28r.jpg

Close up

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/passsidewithoutinlet.jpg

Not much room inbetween the exhaust mani and the turbo

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/eeknoroom.jpg

Close up...

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/turboclosetoexhaustmani.jpg

Pass side turbo with inlets in [up]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/passsidewithinlet.jpg

Drivers side turbo fully in

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/driversideturbo.jpg

Pass side turbo fully in

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/passsidefullyin.jpg

Both turbos [evilmad]

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/bothturbosin.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/bothturbosin-1.jpg

car from the bottom...

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/bottom.jpg

And again...

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/Car%20project/bottom1.jpg

Hopefully I will have some vids tomorrow! We had to custom one of the I/Cs to work with the turbo (cut 4-6inches) and cut a little off the GT inlets/had to reflare.

wdbdy2000s4
07-14-2009, 08:14 PM
get that shit done. 3 days. [up]

blackbenzz
07-14-2009, 08:38 PM
This thing is gonna come off the line hard! Auto FTW [up]

B5stgIII
07-14-2009, 11:03 PM
I'm pumped to see the final result. Keep up the good work man.

S4FORCE1
07-15-2009, 04:25 AM
Can't wait for the vid!

Don Supreme
07-15-2009, 06:39 AM
This thing is gonna come off the line hard! Auto FTW [up]

Its not a supercharged monster v8 now.

Don Supreme
07-15-2009, 06:39 AM
As per usual ATP style, these turbos are far from "Bolt On"....

Thanks for the blow by blow.

wdbdy2000s4
07-15-2009, 06:51 AM
Its not a supercharged monster v8 now.

who has one of those. lol [;)]

blackbenzz
07-15-2009, 06:56 AM
Its not a supercharged monster v8 now.

Haha no but its AWD with two decent sized turbos [drive]

Don Supreme
07-15-2009, 07:14 AM
Haha no but its AWD with two decent sized turbos [drive]

Well lets hope he has a transmission setup that will allow him to spool them from a dig.

awtst3.a6
07-15-2009, 07:23 AM
.... Stock trans I was holding 2750rpm... add 500rpms stall. With the stock stall at 2750 I was holding 10-12 psi. With that theory in mind. I can EASILY spool 10-14psi out of the gts at a 3250-3500 stall. It might take 3-5 seconds longer at the tree. But hey... that is why I let the other guy stage up first :D Trust me... I will spool.

RolledMySTi
07-15-2009, 08:04 AM
Looking good. You are making some quick progress on this.

Evilevo
07-15-2009, 11:22 AM
looking good man. hopefully you get it up and running soon

wdbdy2000s4
07-15-2009, 12:05 PM
looking good man. hopefully you get it up and running soon

it should be there this weekend bitchbox. lol [;)]

Evilevo
07-15-2009, 01:13 PM
it should be there this weekend bitchbox. lol [;)]

i wont be there this weekend bitchbox [;)]

awtst3.a6
07-15-2009, 07:17 PM
Car is done... faster on 10-14psi vs my ko4s on 23-25psi. The car is stupid fast. Looks like while the car was sitting the tiptronic mode messed up... SOooo I have to get a new board for tiptronic. I did take a few videos in drive.. and happened to get it into tiptronic for a run. In drive I had to let off inbetween gears because of the rev limit wasnt matching with the TCU. Enjoy and the car is stupid fast.

jibberjive
07-15-2009, 07:29 PM
Car is done... faster on 10-14psi vs my ko4s on 23-25psi. The car is stupid fast. Looks like while the car was sitting the tiptronic mode messed up... SOooo I have to get a new board for tiptronic. I did take a few videos in drive.. and happened to get it into tiptronic for a run. In drive I had to let off inbetween gears because of the rev limit wasnt matching with the TCU. Enjoy and the car is stupid fast.

What's the powerband like? Videos posted??

blackbenzz
07-15-2009, 07:30 PM
Where is the vid??? Congrats on getting it back!!!

complacentsee
07-15-2009, 07:47 PM
Shortest build thread ever?

awtst3.a6
07-15-2009, 08:06 PM
9-14psi :D I haven't yet launched the car... remember this is the baseline tune :)

"boost lag" 2nd gr
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGIlQiJ9A8


Tip finally worked in a run!! 3rdgear roll.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADnRFlD2bW0

2nd gear in auto - it has to shift first :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTNcEtmHd8Y


Was a long day. I hope to have a few videos of TIP mode. It was WAYYYYY quicker and held boost inbetween gears. Enjoy 18lbs coming soon. Full boost is in at 4.5 rpms. The torque puts you back in your seat from 4rpms - 7rpms. You can tell the turbos are still making power at 7rpm. I think I have something good going :D

Reich
07-15-2009, 08:29 PM
Congrats for the setup.
Yeah my tranny can't hold up more that 19-20 psi over 5500rpms b/c of that stupid t/c from ipt. THis is like 875$ cash in fire.
I'll send them tranny later this fall and might do rods at same time.

Good luck and keep us updated.
edit: I mean i'll send it to 517.

shorterthanrich
07-15-2009, 09:13 PM
Very well done so very quickly...

awtst3.a6
07-15-2009, 09:48 PM
No need to keep you waiting. :D

Mikse
07-16-2009, 12:52 AM
Shortest build thread ever?
..The BEST build thread ever. You can carry for nine months but when it´s time to labor, it can be done quickly. just like this [:p]

Good Job.

joe dub
07-16-2009, 01:01 AM
Shortest build thread ever?

nice job getting shit done, props to your mechanics

Turbo Nerd
07-16-2009, 01:59 AM
What made you go with 517 and not lvl10. Never had a auto built so just curious, I heard lvl10 was the best for auto tranny's. Btw nice work on the motor, done pretty damn fast. Good luck.

awtst3.a6
07-16-2009, 04:24 AM
What made you go with 517 and not lvl10. Never had a auto built so just curious, I heard lvl10 was the best for auto tranny's. Btw nice work on the motor, done pretty damn fast. Good luck.

I heard a LOT of bad things about lvl10. :D We will keep it at that haha

wdbdy2000s4
07-16-2009, 05:42 AM
What made you go with 517 and not lvl10. Never had a auto built so just curious, I heard lvl10 was the best for auto tranny's. Btw nice work on the motor, done pretty damn fast. Good luck.

I think you mean levelZERO bro....they rebuilt an AW member's tranny with stock parts, then created a fake username to defend the product after it blew up. The stupid tech used his email which had his name in it and he even answered the phone when the member called level0

complacentsee
07-16-2009, 06:06 AM
No need to keep you waiting. :D

Yeah, those eliminators not totally direct bolt on. But didn't take all that much longer than a stage III build either. And still alot less than some other GT kits.

AudiSportB5S4
07-16-2009, 06:36 AM
Looks great! Congrats!

PinoyS4
07-16-2009, 07:05 AM
good job[up]

RolledMySTi
07-16-2009, 07:50 AM
Congrats on getting her running so quickly

NYEuroTuner
07-16-2009, 11:19 AM
Amazing job.

This car def looks like its gonna get even better with time. I can see you upgrading even more. [up]

AwdOwns
07-16-2009, 11:52 AM
The car probably feels great but did you actually do any of the work or just drop of parts and money to have someone do everything so you can rep it? Just curious.

Nonetheless nice car.

awtst3.a6
07-16-2009, 12:09 PM
I go to the shop ever single time my car is touched with my tech. Not that I don't trust him, but am very intrested in the process of everything coming together and how it works. Sadly I don't know how to work these cars, and something like this would be WAY over my head without school. I help him through out the project where ever he needs help and input my ideas on how we can get things to work. I was at the shop easily over 25+ hours and was there 10 hours yesterday alone. I guess you can say I shipped out the money and got it done to rep it? But then again, that is why I worked my ass off and got money to rep it. Looks like you are a little light on cash and jealous. Sorry. Id say I put in my good share of work to "rep it".....

Nonetheless thank you for your comments.

espo4442
07-16-2009, 12:35 PM
I go to the shop ever single time my car is touched with my tech. Not that I don't trust him, but am very intrested in the process of everything coming together and how it works. Sadly I don't know how to work these cars, and something like this would be WAY over my head without school. I help him through out the project where ever he needs help and input my ideas on how we can get things to work. I was at the shop easily over 25+ hours and was there 10 hours yesterday alone. I guess you can say I shipped out the money and got it done to rep it? But then again, that is why I worked my ass off and got money to rep it. Looks like you are a little light on cash and jealous. Sorry. Id say I put in my good share of work to "rep it".....

Nonetheless thank you for your comments.

Big plus on this, people don't realize that some aren't willing to try and go at it themselves to figure out they got in wayyy over their head, spend more money to fix the mistakes they have made, and take way longer than letting someone build your engine with your thought's and idea's. I consider being apart of the build ( giving insight and actually being present when it's being built) different then just dropping the car off asking for a few things , picking it up and paying the bill. Good work bro, it's nice to see a build get done so quickly.[up]

wdbdy2000s4
07-16-2009, 01:14 PM
The car probably feels great but did you actually do any of the work or just drop of parts and money to have someone do everything so you can rep it? Just curious.

Nonetheless nice car.

lol @ the shit talking one ringer from washington.[;)]

Evilevo
07-16-2009, 01:18 PM
lol @ the shit talking one ringer from washington.[;)]

Yepp, you need 4 rings before you start shit talking [>_<]

S4_NE
07-16-2009, 01:35 PM
make sure you break in that trans, Sam told me to take it easy on mine her for a few miles , then after that fun began,

S4_NE
07-16-2009, 01:38 PM
I heard a LOT of bad things about lvl10. :D We will keep it at that haha

L10 is bad, 517 is good [wrench]

NYEuroTuner
07-16-2009, 02:35 PM
Yepp, you need 4 rings before you start shit talking [>_<]

Damn, The force is not strong with me, yet. lol [:D]

Spooled1.8
07-16-2009, 03:54 PM
Nice build! I just want to do PJK04's on my s4 here soon because I don't want to tear into the engine but threads like these are making it hard.

SeattleS4
07-16-2009, 04:29 PM
.... Stock trans I was holding 2750rpm... add 500rpms stall. With the stock stall at 2750 I was holding 10-12 psi. With that theory in mind. I can EASILY spool 10-14psi out of the gts at a 3250-3500 stall. It might take 3-5 seconds longer at the tree. But hey... that is why I let the other guy stage up first.

Nice project dude. It should haul ass when all the bugs are worked out and it's tuned. [cool] [up]

You probably won't need to boost launch at 10psi or else it will just be wheel-spin city off the line. And sitting at the line building boost for too long will get the trans temps very hot...very quickly. In my other car (turbo, awd, auto) any boost launch higher than 1-2psi just spins all 4 wheels like crazy. Launching any higher than that is totally useless. Fun..., but useless. [:d]

auto trans + awd + turbos > 6spd

jibberjive
07-16-2009, 06:16 PM
Even if someone has a shop do a turbo swap, there's absolutely nothing wrong in my eyes. Now if someone pays the dealership to install DV's or something, then I may have issues;)

awtst3.a6
07-16-2009, 06:32 PM
Thank you guys. I hope to have a new file on her tomorrow :D and tip working -_-... still going in and out

awtst3.a6
07-20-2009, 05:44 AM
torque conveter seal broke (I believe), I turned around 250 miles away from home woot. It has been leaking ever since instal soooo kinda a big issue. The seal just took a shit on the trip. We thought it was just going to go away during the "break in period" but obviously that didn't happen. Here are some pics woot. Atleast this is why I got a warranty for stuff like this... Still just a pain in the ass to have to deal with. Sorry I couldn't make it to see those of you that I promised to chill with or meet up.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/The%20Break/IMG_1447.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/The%20Break/IMG_1452.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/The%20Break/IMG_1453.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x4/skozura/The%20Break/IMG_1454.jpg


Fail.

Evilevo
07-20-2009, 05:46 AM
Ya man, that sucks. Ben told me. We got up there on saturday and met up with Ben and Ahmad and were like, Where is Sam?

wdbdy2000s4
07-20-2009, 05:50 AM
It's probly a good thing you didn't make it friday...Court date on August 4th. haha

awtst3.a6
07-20-2009, 05:50 AM
Ya man, that sucks. Ben told me. We got up there on saturday and met up with Ben and Ahmad and were like, Where is Sam?

I know... I called Ben and let him know, just because I didnt wanna seem like I flaked out. He was calling me to ask me when I wanted to run the cars as well. I am soooo upset to say the least and I hope to have the car back on the road ASAP. I am going to make a special trip to MD as well when I finish it. I will give some updates but what sucks the worst is... Version 2 of my gt file was uploaded for 18lbs :/

awtst3.a6
07-20-2009, 05:51 AM
It's probly a good thing you didn't make it friday...Court date on August 4th. haha

Waaa for what?

Evilevo
07-20-2009, 05:52 AM
It's probly a good thing you didn't make it friday...Court date on August 4th. haha

I heard you guys went NUTS

wdbdy2000s4
07-20-2009, 05:55 AM
Waaa for what?

open container in a motor vehicle

I swear to god I said this to the cop. There were 40 witnesses.
cop: is that an a4?
me: my secretary drives an a4, it's an s4 buddy.
cop: what?[confused]

awtst3.a6
07-20-2009, 06:03 AM
open container in a motor vehicle

I swear to god I said this to the cop. There were 40 witnesses.
cop: is that an a4?
me: my secretary drives an a4, it's an s4 buddy.
cop: what?[confused]

Lmao at him for 1 thinking it was a a4... Fucking cops. Sorry to hear : /

Evilevo
07-20-2009, 06:17 AM
Uber fail. Your car is now an A4

Don Supreme
07-20-2009, 07:12 AM
Ben's car is an A4 too.

awtst3.a6
07-20-2009, 08:19 AM
Front diff blew. Pieces of metal coming out of the trans.

seadoo4563
07-20-2009, 08:40 AM
open container in a motor vehicle

I swear to god I said this to the cop. There were 40 witnesses.
cop: is that an a4?
me: my secretary drives an a4, it's an s4 buddy.
cop: what?[confused]

lol

blackbenzz
07-20-2009, 08:48 AM
Front diff blew. Pieces of metal coming out of the trans.

NOT good [:(]

awtst3.a6
07-20-2009, 08:59 AM
NOT good [:(]

Yeah... I think it was built 100% wrong. I feel like i shouldn't have to pay a dime for shipping, labor or the new trans/tc. I am out 1200 dollars already for a vacation I didn't even take, 4400 dollars for a trans build (not including shipping + 400 ), instal fees and to top if off a broken car which wasn't my fault for once. I am just glad there hasn't been any more dmg found yet on the car other than the trans. I will be making a trip to see you guys soon in MD :) ... I hope ;P

complacentsee
07-20-2009, 09:02 AM
Fuck man. that sucks.

jibberjive
07-20-2009, 05:01 PM
That sucks bro. I could've guessed it though, I still have yet to see one completely successful, reliable high power tip build. Hope you break new ground with that one though.

awtst3.a6
07-20-2009, 05:36 PM
That sucks bro. I could've guessed it though, I still have yet to see one completely successful, reliable high power tip build. Hope you break new ground with that one though.

Thanks man... I figure somebody has to do it. I am willing to try and make this happen [up] Thanks for the support.

S4_NE
07-21-2009, 07:21 AM
wow the diff blew out,that suxs, how many miles on it? what fluid did you put in it after it was rebuilt? Mine has been good but I am only K04 set up.

awtst3.a6
07-21-2009, 09:00 AM
1k+, audi fluid, and my stock trans was fine on my ko4/meth.

S4_NE
07-21-2009, 09:02 AM
I blew my stock trans with K04's, Sam ( 517 transhop) rebuilt it about 3k ago and she has been perfect, I wonder what the power limit is on the front diff? i have over 400+ WTQ in mine and yours should be past that easy when fully tuned...

awtst3.a6
07-21-2009, 09:55 AM
Well.. My ko4 set up was 450AWHP easily at 24-25psi. At 9-12psi the car was as quick and had as much power as ko4s. The stock trans held up better than the built one lol. Why it makes me wonder if shit was even done to my trans. Also I would like to note that other people have had the same problem as me on ko4 set ups. There shit just hasn't blown up yet.

S4_NE
07-21-2009, 10:55 AM
the good thing is that Sam will stand behiend his work, My stock trans blew up after 7 K of stg 3 power, the 3-5 clutch packs went by by, the only mod i had was the GIAC TCU chip when teh internals were stock, hope all turns out good for you,

complacentsee
07-21-2009, 10:55 AM
I hope this gets sorted out.

Otherwise I might just have to sell all my stage III tip shit I've collected.

Evilevo
07-21-2009, 10:59 AM
I hope this gets sorted out.

Otherwise I might just have to sell all my stage III tip shit I've collected.


6Spd FTW

awtst3.a6
07-21-2009, 11:02 AM
6Spd FTW

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!! [evilmad]

jibberjive
07-21-2009, 06:19 PM
Well.. My ko4 set up was 450AWHP easily at 24-25psi.

Bold statement unless you have a dyno sheet (dyno dependent of course.)

jibberjive
07-21-2009, 09:35 PM
Not sure why I get email replies that aren't really in the thread, but I'd love to if you were near. However, that wouldn't say anything about the previous setup that I was talking about. Very few KO4 setups are able to put out much over 400whp (like I said though, completely dyno dependent) and most OTS setups are around 360-380 whp. Add to that that you are a tip. To speculate that it easily put out 450 to the wheels is a very bold statement, unless it had really transpired (and if it had then you'd have a dyno sheet.) Did you dyno your old setup, or is that speculation? Just trying to understand.

Either way, I don't want to derail the thread. Get it fixed and turn up the boost!

joe dub
07-21-2009, 09:57 PM
Get it fixed and turn up the boost!

you seemed to get the kit together and installed very quickly dont let this hold you up

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 04:30 AM
Not sure why I get email replies that aren't really in the thread, but I'd love to if you were near. However, that wouldn't say anything about the previous setup that I was talking about. Very few KO4 setups are able to put out much over 400whp (like I said though, completely dyno dependent) and most OTS setups are around 360-380 whp. Add to that that you are a tip. To speculate that it easily put out 450 to the wheels is a very bold statement, unless it had really transpired (and if it had then you'd have a dyno sheet.) Did you dyno your old setup, or is that speculation? Just trying to understand.

Either way, I don't want to derail the thread. Get it fixed and turn up the boost!

Hah, nope I didn't dyno the set up previously but I know what it was. You can think what ever about a bolt on kit. Yes, it will get you 360-380awhp. That is if you buy the ko4 kit and just bolt it on with fueling (no supporting mods)..... I have way more than this (i/c, meth cams..ect) ... I am not your avg plane jane ko4 car (before or after) sorry honey..... You can think what you want but what I told you (and deleted) is I will run your car for money. I just figured be respectful to the kid subscribing to your thread/youtube (get off my nuts). You can think I am bullshit about what I put down. But you are stupid if you think a GOOD ko4 set up (with a custom map) isn't easily over 425awhp...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LButpWwX8I0

That is a cammed car on 93 octane.

SO I guess the question is.. When are we going to race.. and when are you getting off my cock. (unsubscribe plz)

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 04:42 AM
Have you even owned a stage 3 set up????

audimeister
07-22-2009, 05:21 AM
Jibberjive is right. K04 cars can only make 425awhp with e85, meth, tricky parts, and lots of tuning love. He doesn't have to justify, the dyno sheets are all over the internet. It was a small clarification.

I did like the flames out of the exhaust when they got off the throttle in the vid...

We're on your side...we want you to succeed. Good luck sorting your issue, and thanks for pushing the boundaries of what we know.

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 06:01 AM
Jibberjive is right. K04 cars can only make 425awhp with e85, meth, tricky parts, and lots of tuning love. He doesn't have to justify, the dyno sheets are all over the internet. It was a small clarification.

I did like the flames out of the exhaust when they got off the throttle in the vid...

We're on your side...we want you to succeed. Good luck sorting your issue, and thanks for pushing the boundaries of what we know.

Respect... I was going to dyno it but the ko4s blew before I could. You guys can believe it or not but like I said. I was holding 24-25psi and would spike 30. Also I think what you are talking about is a bolt on ko4 car with e85 with no supporting mods. Like the video just showed u... a 93 octane car with supporting mods putting down 415awhp.. How do you find it hard to believe you can't get a extra 30-40awhp off meth or race fuel?? You can easily get 450awhp out of these cars with ko4s. Is it safe? Will it last? No. Atleast not for me.

shorterthanrich
07-22-2009, 07:41 AM
Respect... I was going to dyno it but the ko4s blew before I could. You guys can believe it or not but like I said. I was holding 24-25psi and would spike 30. Also I think what you are talking about is a bolt on ko4 car with e85 with no supporting mods. Like the video just showed u... a 93 octane car with supporting mods putting down 415awhp.. How do you find it hard to believe you can't get a extra 30-40awhp off meth or race fuel?? You can easily get 450awhp out of these cars with ko4s. Is it safe? Will it last? No. Atleast not for me.

I guess that's part of the definition to me. If it's not safe and won't last its not "easily get 450 awhp". It's not easy if it explodes [:(]

I see what you're saying. I think it's just a matter of syntax/differing definitions.

Now go make the GTs work.

jibberjive
07-22-2009, 06:13 PM
Hah, nope I didn't dyno the set up previously but I know what it was. You can think what ever about a bolt on kit. Yes, it will get you 360-380awhp. That is if you buy the ko4 kit and just bolt it on with fueling (no supporting mods)..... I have way more than this (i/c, meth cams..ect) ... I am not your avg plane jane ko4 car (before or after) sorry honey..... You can think what you want but what I told you (and deleted) is I will run your car for money. I just figured be respectful to the kid subscribing to your thread/youtube (get off my nuts). You can think I am bullshit about what I put down. But you are stupid if you think a GOOD ko4 set up (with a custom map) isn't easily over 425awhp...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LButpWwX8I0

That is a cammed car on 93 octane.

SO I guess the question is.. When are we going to race.. and when are you getting off my cock. (unsubscribe plz)

LOL wow lots of hostility coming off here. I know tone doesn't come off very well through typing, but I didn't think there's anyway you could mistake my posts for a complete call-out, hater type of response. I even put that clause at the end of my post cause I didn't want to derail your thread and told you to get it fixed and turn up the boost. But whatever man, everyone on here knows I'm not one to hate on random people nor try to brag about my setup, but I'll gladly unsubscribe from your youtube videos now seeing that you're a douche. I was interested in seeing your results because you're the first to try these eliminators and document it. It's gone exactly how I thought so far though, the tip tranny blew first. Once you get that fixed I plan on you pushing the limit a little too much and throw a rod through the block. At least you'll be yet another data point for the statistic of how much the stock block really can handle.

I didn't say,"No way. It didn't happen. You're a liar." What I said was, "That's a bold statement without a dyno sheet." And that's exactly what it is. I have been around well long enough to know what KO4 setups have dynoed in the past, from OTS kits to tweaked out. Find me more than 3 or so random freak dyno sheets from a KO4 car with whatever setup you want that put out easily over 450whp (like you said in your previous post, not the 425whp you said in the post I just quoted.) Now find me a single dyno sheet from a KO4 car with a tiptronic that's over 450 to the wheels. I've never seen one. Of the couple of random dyno sheets that you may find of 6-speed KO4 cars on questionable dynos putting out 450+whp, not a single one of those achieved that easily; they were all maxed out. These are facts and stand unless you can prove otherwise. Find me those dyno sheets.

As for running my car, I've never ran another car for money, but I wouldn't hesitate to run you for fun, money or whatever. We're not anywhere near the same vicinity so it's never going to become a reality, and I'm not one for E-racing, but I'll humor you. My car has a fully built motor with big port heads and it will be running a custom E85 tune and 1000cc injectors daily with similarly sized turbos to yours. Add to that my car is a 6-speed and weighs 100's of lbs less than yours, do you see any reason other than gross driver error that my car wouldn't be faster??


Respect... I was going to dyno it but the ko4s blew before I could. You guys can believe it or not but like I said. I was holding 24-25psi and would spike 30. Also I think what you are talking about is a bolt on ko4 car with e85 with no supporting mods. Like the video just showed u... a 93 octane car with supporting mods putting down 415awhp.. How do you find it hard to believe you can't get a extra 30-40awhp off meth or race fuel?? You can easily get 450awhp out of these cars with ko4s. Is it safe? Will it last? No. Atleast not for me.

You were spiking your KO4's to 30psi[o_o] No wonder they blew. And again, I didn't say I don't believe it, rather I was hoping for a dyno sheet proving it. But since you didn't ever dyno it then all we have is your claims about how the car felt. And since I don't necessarily have any reason to trust your judgement on what 450whp feels like, I don't just walk blindly and take it as fact that your tiptronic car was a unicorn that did indeed put out 450whp. Like it or not, I don't think there's anyone on here that's been around a while and knows what they're talking about who will believe that your tiptronic KO4 car easily put out 450whp, or that it even put out 450whp at all, easily or not, without seeing the actual dyno sheet. Sorry honey.
(Disclaimer: Having said that I don't doubt there's some crazy high reading dynojet or something somewhere that would have a bunch of tip KO4 cars reading 450whp, because dynos are all relative.)

Honestly though, lets not clutter and derail your thread which was good up until this. Hate me, think I'm riding your jock, think your car's faster than mine, whatever. I don't care.

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 06:21 PM
When you get your shitbox done bring it my way. I will show you how my car runs. Also there are tons of people running ko4s in the range of 425-450awhp.. I believe other kids were talking about trying to push 500awhp on the other forums. Believe what you want.

jibberjive
07-22-2009, 07:02 PM
When you get your shitbox done bring it my way. I will show you how my car runs. Also there are tons of people running ko4s in the range of 425-450awhp.. I believe other kids were talking about trying to push 500awhp on the other forums. Believe what you want.

A bull headed boner I see. You look so cool when you rip on someone's car for no reason and when it has no basis in reality. You know that we'll never be close enough to run, so continue on making hollow claims and assume your car is faster than mine.

Again, you said easily 450whp from your tip KO4 car (easily meaning at least, aka. 450whp+, not this 425whp you're reverting to.)

Back to my questions then because I have no problem cluttering your thread now after I've tried twice to let it go:

1. Can you give me a single logical reason why your car would possibly be faster than mine?

2. Find me a single dyno sheet of a KO4 tip 450WHP or more. If these other kids are almost pushing 500whp then it should be easy. Back your claims up.

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 07:56 PM
lol I am done with you

jibberjive
07-22-2009, 08:06 PM
lol I am done with you

That's what I thought, won't back up any of your claims that you get all butt hurt about, simply because you can't.

This has been one of the shorter debates/arguments I've seen with big claimers that can't back it up. And I'm glad it was short. Back to your build. Get it fixed.

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 08:13 PM
That's what I thought, won't back up any of your claims that you get all butt hurt about, simply because you can't.

This has been one of the shorter debates/arguments I've seen with big claimers that can't back it up. And I'm glad it was short. Back to your build. Get it fixed.

???lol???
1.I told you I would race you.
2.You don't even have a running car with a gt set up.
3.I haven't even tried to start a debate with you. I am just letting you go on and on. I could care less if it was on my thread.

Believe what you would like and come to me when you have your car running. Right now you just have some nice parts. Congrats.

Evilevo
07-22-2009, 08:15 PM
That's what I thought, won't back up any of your claims that you get all butt hurt about, simply because you can't.

This has been one of the shorter debates/arguments I've seen with big claimers that can't back it up. And I'm glad it was short. Back to your build. Get it fixed.

LOL, this dude told me the same thing. That he would smoke my car too when my build was finished. Luckily for me, i am close enough to him to take his money [>_<]

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 08:15 PM
LOL, this dude told me the same thing. That he would smoke my car too when my build was finished. Luckily for me, i am close enough to him to take his money [>_<]

:D I am close enough to do the same to you. [>_>]

Evilevo
07-22-2009, 08:25 PM
:D I am close enough to do the same to you. [>_>]

I bet Bens car walks you

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 08:26 PM
I bet Bens car walks you

How much would u like to put on that? now ur just being funny.

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 08:29 PM
you gotta get that blown up trans fixed first

You need to get your car running. Go ask daddy for some more money. lol

jibberjive
07-22-2009, 08:30 PM
???lol???
1.I told you I would race you.
2.You don't even have a running car with a gt set up.
3.I haven't even tried to start a debate with you. I am just letting you go on and on. I could care less if it was on my thread.

Believe what you would like and come to me when you have your car running. Right now you just have some nice parts. Congrats.

1. You know that we will never be close enough. Give it up cause it doesn't make you look any faster. If it were possible I'd race you in a heartbeat. PS. I was trying to avoid saying anything negative about your build because I can appreciate and I try to support people who have nice equipment and document it, but when they have attitudes like yours I have no reason to restrain my thoughts. Your speedo vids were incredibly underwhelming and if the car in that state was 'way faster' than your KO4 setup, then I have even less faith than I previously had (possible?) in the power of your past setup. And I know it was at 14lbs of boost and not finished, just going off of your comment. Either way, terribly disappointing.
2. True
3. You made 3 posts about my 1 sentence post, butt-hurt much? You don't have much to reply because you simply can't back up your claims and have nothing to say (about cars that aren't even yours none-the-less.) I don't mind when people make big claims with no proof or logic, but when they are arrogant and have an attitude like yours I sometimes like to pull their card and expose them.

Again, you still haven't answered my questions because you can't.

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 08:33 PM
Everything is paid for fool. and not by daddy.

haha yahhh not what I saw on irc the other day. -_-

awtst3.a6
07-22-2009, 08:35 PM
Either way it doesn't matter you will have it... I gotta go too bed later

jibberjive
07-22-2009, 08:36 PM
:D I am close enough to do the same to you. [>_>]
Dude, I don't get it. Do you feed your car magic beans that makes it unbeatable and somehow reinforces your engine to handle the power that would be required to beat mine and Adam's car? At least be rational and explain your logic, why would your stock engine car that has less power and weighs 100's of lbs more beat a lighter, more powerful car? Do you think that you're just that much better of a driver that your tip car will catch us slow 6-speeds snoozing? lol

jibberjive
07-22-2009, 08:42 PM
Simple yes or no question, will you shut your mouth if Adam takes your money? I even changed the question for you so that it's not a loaded question, so hopefully I can get an honest answer.

Evilevo
07-22-2009, 08:55 PM
Dude, I don't get it. Do you feed your car magic beans that makes it unbeatable and somehow reinforces your engine to handle the power that would be required to beat mine and Adam's car? At least be rational and explain your logic, why would your stock engine car that has less power and weighs 100's of lbs more beat a lighter, more powerful car? Do you think that you're just that much better of a driver that your tip car will catch us slow 6-speeds snoozing? lol

i dont get it either. [confused]

cheezItt
07-22-2009, 09:05 PM
I have to say i told you so, but i do respect what you are doing.
There was someone else here that was doing this with a 517 trans. and it didnt work.
That being said i was also a stage 3 tip as well, going to 6 speed now.

It takes people like you going against the grain to get shit done,
But damn, people that usually do this, have a shit load of money to throw around, so if it fails. it doesnt matter to them.

From ALL previous GT/BT/TIAL tip installs everyone has been a major FAIL and complete waste of money. Shit i think if anything you went the furthest with this. You at least had it running for a couple of days before it exploded.

And i used to fuking hate hearing switch to a 6 speed, but i realized thats the only way it can work.

And jibber, i agree with what your original quote about his build, there is nothing "wrong" with calling it as it is. everyone has an opinion.

But seriously Jibber you are like in EVERYONES face.
I dont know about everyone else but its getting really annoying man.

[evilsmile][evilsmile]

jibberjive
07-22-2009, 09:24 PM
I have to say i told you so, but i do respect what you are doing.
There was someone else here that was doing this with a 517 trans. and it didnt work.
That being said i was also a stage 3 tip as well, going to 6 speed now.

It takes people like you going against the grain to get shit done,
But damn, people that usually do this, have a shit load of money to throw around, so if it fails. it doesnt matter to them.

From ALL previous GT/BT/TIAL tip installs everyone has been a major FAIL and complete waste of money. Shit i think if anything you went the furthest with this. You at least had it running for a couple of days before it exploded.

And i used to fuking hate hearing switch to a 6 speed, but i realized thats the only way it can work.

And jibber, i agree with what your original quote about his build, there is nothing "wrong" with calling it as it is. everyone has an opinion.

But seriously Jibber you are like in EVERYONES face.
I dont know about everyone else but its getting really annoying man.

[evilsmile][evilsmile]
Dude, if you look at my first 4 or so posts in this thread I was nothing but positive and constructive. I made a one sentence post about 450whp being a bold statement without actual having dynoed it, and he blew up and got all personal calling me names and trying to call my car out. Simply uncalled for stuff. It was not until after that that I brought any heat, but what I called him out on after that was well deserved. Other than him, FAW on Audiworld, and sometimes Adam/spooling/slowRS6, I really don't ever spit fire. I'm sorry to you all if it is annoying, and I'll try to do it less if that really is the case, but I think almost everyone here that reads this thread sees that I started off well and tried to drop it multiple times.

Either way, I've said what I want to say, he can't back up his claims, and that is that. I just hope Adam really has the opportunity to take his money and have someone film it, because I can't stand people who don't think they can be beat. And on that note, I'm out![>_<]

Dr. Jekyll
07-22-2009, 09:26 PM
But you are stupid if you think a GOOD ko4 set up (with a custom map) isn't easily over 425awhp...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LButpWwX8I0

That is a cammed car on 93 octane.

(unsubscribe plz)

Herr's car has RS6/K04 hybrids.

And I have yet to see a cam that actually produces more hp on pj k04's. I've done back to back dynos with no other change other than RS4 cams and I actually lost power. After retuning I was right back to where I baselined. No added power what-so-ever. 2.8L cams - same deal on K04's... with lost power down low. Revolver cams, well there is a reason they are no longer produced. The only gain from them was misfires.

400whp is not easy to achieve without meth. With meth and a bit more boost you can get 450 whp, but it's certainly not easy.

shorterthanrich
07-22-2009, 10:37 PM
This got out of hand, guys.

awtst3.a6, I was really enjoying this thread, but you're being kind of bull-headed (I really don't mean that offensively). Just relax, no one is trying to call you a liar. If you've seen 450awhp on pjk04s - where and when? A dyno sheet would make it much more believable, because apparently - according to pretty much everyone else, it's a stretch. I've only been around here for a few months and even I was kind of surprised to read that.

jib, you're justified, just relax.[:)] You know what your car can/will be able to do once it's done, and that there's no basis or logic that a car without much close to what you're doing would be able to walk you. Keep using logic. If I were in his shoes I'd be pissed my shit exploded, too, and I can see how he got kind of defensive. I've always seen you be really level headed and you have been throughout 99% of this thread, just keep it up.


awtst3.a6, making the power and making the power easily are two different things. Lets be strait here - you already blew up some K04s pushing them too far. That right there = NOT easy. Riding the limit is riding the limit. I support riding the limit 100%, but just don't say it's easy if it's not, that's all.

All of that nonsense aside, keep this up. It would be awesome to see this running. Move on from racing from your keyboards and making bets and blah blah blah. Just build the damn car and enjoy it![wrench] You made a ton of progress in just a few days, I'm sure that you can get past the first speedbump here....[up]

joe dub
07-23-2009, 01:59 AM
this isn't the guinness book, get a fast car and stfu

awtst3.a6
07-23-2009, 04:27 AM
lol I honestly can't believe this kid is still going on and on. Cheezitt I noticed the same thing about jibber. I am still in question about the 6speed swap but am going to stick it out with the automatic. Who said I wasn't going to race my car... I don't need to give you a single logic about my car. It seems like you have your ego going with your untuned, nonrunning car. I have my theories and you can have yours. Keep betting on something you can't even run. -_- Evo, like I told you, my car right now would beat yours with the broken trans. I will also have my car running/moving faster than yours again even with the trans going out. You know where I am at when you get your car done. I hope you guys finish your projects -_-

espo4442
07-23-2009, 04:34 AM
Ohh will you two just settle it on Pinks already lol

Mantis
07-23-2009, 05:02 AM
I have been watching this thread from it's start, I was hoping that it would have a happy ending, but , sorry to hear about the trans. I do believe with a well built trans, big HP#'s are possible, I just didn't want to be the guy who tried. I got tired of adding power and then having to tone it down so that the TIP could deal with it. That is why I pulled the TIP, just waiting for my VAST ceramic to arrive and the 6 speed swap will be done. I still have my other tranny and I am considering having it built, for future use, we'll see I guess

awtst3.a6
07-23-2009, 06:06 AM
I have been watching this thread from it's start, I was hoping that it would have a happy ending, but , sorry to hear about the trans. I do believe with a well built trans, big HP#'s are possible, I just didn't want to be the guy who tried. I got tired of adding power and then having to tone it down so that the TIP could deal with it. That is why I pulled the TIP, just waiting for my VAST ceramic to arrive and the 6 speed swap will be done. I still have my other tranny and I am considering having it built, for future use, we'll see I guess

I stayed with the auto because through stage 3 and with even adding meth I had zero problems with the trans. I might have just been one of the lucky ones on the stock trans?? I launched the car over 500 times and raced it almost every weekend. The biggest disappointment is that I was pushing around the same power maybe a little more than my ko4 set up on low boost and the trans went out. I almost wish I stuck with the strock trans -_-. I was thinking with a trans built/TC, and the person who was building it said it can support 600awhp I should trust him. My trust right now is still in that mans hands and I will give him a chance to prove to me it can hold the power. He has tons of auto trans that hold the power but maybe it is just something about the audi auto people just cant get right? I have been bashed from day one about my automatic car and have heard it all, but I am gonig to stick it out [up]. Hopefully it works out for the best.. if not atleast I will lay down a platform on where not to go, what not to do and the auto trans doesn't work ( I hope not ). I have my fingers crossed and I am hoping for the best.

Also I believe I am going to build the motor while we are pulling the trans. I am going to atleast do rods, vavle springs ect. Enough of this noob talk.

wdbdy2000s4
07-23-2009, 06:51 AM
everyone needs to stop with the "my car will walk your car" bullshit. I could build a 91 honda civic for under 10k that would beat the shit out of every car on this board down the 1/4 by close to a second. The whole objective of building a car is so that it satisfies you and that you enjoy driving it every time you get in it. No1 here is more of a man b/c their car has XXXwhp. Everyone needs to stop arguing about nothing. 450whp is a meaningless number b/c dynos are subjective. No k04 car will put down 450whp on the cobb dyno or gintani, but people like VR4-s4 have a little over 450 on another dyno and his setup doesn't have a lot of the rs4 shit.

Build the trans, throw in rods, boost the shit out of your motor, and enjoy it. I would like to see you race ben when you're ready. His car should easily be mid 11s after his meth install and it would be a good benchmark and comparison to a car I know. I'm not doubting your car at all, I would love to see these eliminators do work, there have just been a lot of big money builds that couldn't run good times. The ASP cars with "700whp" weren't breaking into the tens. Shit, the eurocode car barely broke tens with Hood driving it and it was a fully built motor with GTs. Get that trans up and running so we can finally have some good results on these eliminators.[up]

awtst3.a6
07-23-2009, 06:58 AM
everyone needs to stop with the "my car will walk your car" bullshit. I could build a 91 honda civic for under 10k that would beat the shit out of every car on this board down the 1/4 by close to a second. The whole objective of building a car is so that it satisfies you and that you enjoy driving it every time you get in it. No1 here is more of a man b/c their car has XXXwhp. Everyone needs to stop arguing about nothing. 450whp is a meaningless number b/c dynos are subjective. No k04 car will put down 450whp on the cobb dyno or gintani, but people like VR4-s4 have a little over 450 on another dyno and his setup doesn't have a lot of the rs4 shit.

Build the trans, throw in rods, boost the shit out of your motor, and enjoy it. I would like to see you race ben when you're ready. His car should easily be mid 11s after his meth install and it would be a good benchmark and comparison to a car I know. I'm not doubting your car at all, I would love to see these eliminators do work, there have just been a lot of big money builds that couldn't run good times. The ASP cars with "700whp" weren't breaking into the tens. Shit, the eurocode car barely broke tens with Hood driving it and it was a fully built motor with GTs. Get that trans up and running so we can finally have some good results on these eliminators.[up]

Cheers, and thank you. [up]. I agree lets stop this pissing match, and about the honda build haha I am sorry for any previous comments and look forward to the runs in the future. I plan to race ben from a roll/dig or where ever. I plan to use him as my bench mark to see how fast or slow my car really is. You can ask ben how pissed I was about not being able to run him at WF and even right now. Even when I heard problems with the trans I kept driving to WF to race him. He is my bench mark and I already told him I am otw right when my car is fixed :). I am coming up this weekend I believe to check out his car though :)

Evilevo
07-23-2009, 07:00 AM
Cheers, and thank you. [up]. I agree lets stop this pissing match, and about the honda build haha I am sorry for any previous comments and look forward to the runs in the future. I plan to race ben from a roll/dig or where ever. I plan to use him as my bench mark to see how fast or slow my car really is. You can ask ben how pissed I was about not being able to run him at WF and even right now. Even when I heard problems with the trans I kept driving to WF to race him. He is my bench mark and I already told him I am otw right when my car is fixed :). I am coming up this weekend I believe to check out his car though :)

You going to MIR?

awtst3.a6
07-23-2009, 07:15 AM
You going to MIR?

Yah man, I believe I am going to be meeting up with Ben Sat night and going to that MIR show Sunday (obviously with out the car :P). I heard it was a great show from a bunch of people who previously went and Ben said it should be some fun as well. Since I missed WF and had a really shitty weekend this gives me a little bit of time to get away! Are you going to MIR? I am looking forward to seeing you/meeting you if so.

Evilevo
07-23-2009, 07:16 AM
Yah man, I believe I am going to be meeting up with Ben Sat night and going to that MIR show Sunday (obviously with out the car :P). I heard it was a great show from a bunch of people who previously went and Ben said it should be some fun as well. Since I missed WF and had a really shitty weekend this gives me a little bit of time to get away! Are you going to MIR? I am looking forward to seeing you/meeting you if so.

I'm gonna try and go. See if i can ride down with someone

wdbdy2000s4
07-23-2009, 07:21 AM
You going to MIR?

Tell Ben to finally run his car with meth. We all know he's a track rat, we need some new 1/4 times to see how the tweaks worked. It will also give a more concrete benchmark for comparison to the A6. He was doing 12.1-12.2s without meth and he shave .6 off his FATS with minimal tweaks. An 11.5 is my prediction but we need something concrete to compare the eliminators too.

Dr. Jekyll
07-23-2009, 09:59 AM
If you've seen 450awhp on pjk04s - where and when? A dyno sheet would make it much more believable, because apparently - according to pretty much everyone else, it's a stretch. I've only been around here for a few months and even I was kind of surprised to read that.


Oh it's possible but it takes the right combination of parts and a decent amount of custom tuning

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Jekyll24/Dyno1.jpg

That's uncorrected though, here are the corrected numbers just for the sake of transparancy

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Jekyll24/Dyno2.jpg


fwiw, basic OTS k04 setups put down between 350whp and 380whp uncorrected on that dyno. A stock car does 190 whp IIRC.

So it's possible but it's not easy. And like everyone else said... 450whp is just a number, it's very dyno dependant. I'm sure I'd have 500whp on a dynojet and around 400 on a dyno dynamics haha.

seadoo4563
07-23-2009, 10:04 AM
Tell Ben to finally run his car with meth. We all know he's a track rat, we need some new 1/4 times to see how the tweaks worked. It will also give a more concrete benchmark for comparison to the A6. He was doing 12.1-12.2s without meth and he shave .6 off his FATS with minimal tweaks. An 11.5 is my prediction but we need something concrete to compare the eliminators too.

well my plan is to be at the track straight from work tomorrow night for test an tune. their calling for rain tomorrow night so hopefully the weather ppl are wrong like they usually are an i can run. im shooting for an 11.8

awtst3.a6
07-23-2009, 10:20 AM
Dr. Jeky.. Thank you.

Mikse
07-23-2009, 10:21 AM
Car is done... faster on 10-14psi vs my ko4s on 23-25psi.
Well.. My ko4 set up was 450AWHP easily at 24-25psi.
So you are you saying the GT2560s make +450rwhp@14psi??

awtst3.a6
07-23-2009, 10:26 AM
So you are you saying the GT2560s make +450rwhp@14psi??

I am not telling everybody everything about my car :D I can say the map was 9psi... but that just means that the psi in first gear is 9psi. Through each gear you get a little more psi because you have to tune it off of 1 map. I don't know to much about tuning but know a little bit to get how it works. Sorry :( I was going to dyno it at WF but I obviously didn't make it. I am going to head to a dyno ASAP when I get my car back up on 18lbs. I think you will be shocked.

wdbdy2000s4
07-23-2009, 11:16 AM
well my plan is to be at the track straight from work tomorrow night for test an tune. their calling for rain tomorrow night so hopefully the weather ppl are wrong like they usually are an i can run. im shooting for an 11.8

anything over 11.8 and I will personally consider your car a failure. lol [cool]

seadoo4563
07-23-2009, 11:23 AM
anything over 11.8 and I will personally consider your car a failure. lol [cool]

o ok. good to know[up]

boostinallday
07-23-2009, 09:36 PM
wow i wasted my time with the last three pages of your thread so i feel the need to comment...

1. you talk like a little bitch and look like a little bitch in your picture i know about these dudes but if you talked that shit to my face i would beat your teeth down your throat take your a6 (roll it on a flatbed) whatever

2. if you work sooo damn hard how do you have 10 hours to stand around with a dick in your mouth watching someone else get paid to turn a wrench.

3. you sound like a stuck up little brat that i know down the way that talks sooo much shit but can't even pull a chick with all the money hes got.

you=fail

quit arguing and hear people out and just go with the flow instead of having your know it all im right your wrong attitude...my whips the best...but it drive me around cause i can't hold boost in a standard trans cause i can't shift fast enough fuck you come up to pa and shut me up

shorterthanrich
07-23-2009, 10:39 PM
wow i wasted my time with the last three pages of your thread so i feel the need to comment...

1. you talk like a little bitch and look like a little bitch in your picture i know about these dudes but if you talked that shit to my face i would beat your teeth down your throat take your a6 (roll it on a flatbed) whatever

2. if you work sooo damn hard how do you have 10 hours to stand around with a dick in your mouth watching someone else get paid to turn a wrench.

3. you sound like a stuck up little brat that i know down the way that talks sooo much shit but can't even pull a chick with all the money hes got.

you=fail

quit arguing and hear people out and just go with the flow instead of having your know it all im right your wrong attitude...my whips the best...but it drive me around cause i can't hold boost in a standard trans cause i can't shift fast enough fuck you come up to pa and shut me up

A little late, dude.

Read the last 5+ posts. Let them sink in. Mmmm, can you feel that? Ohhh, yeah.

That's the feeling of moving on [up]

wdbdy2000s4
07-24-2009, 06:38 AM
wow i wasted my time with the last three pages of your thread so i feel the need to comment...

1. you talk like a little bitch and look like a little bitch in your picture i know about these dudes but if you talked that shit to my face i would beat your teeth down your throat take your a6 (roll it on a flatbed) whatever

2. if you work sooo damn hard how do you have 10 hours to stand around with a dick in your mouth watching someone else get paid to turn a wrench.

3. you sound like a stuck up little brat that i know down the way that talks sooo much shit but can't even pull a chick with all the money hes got.

you=fail

quit arguing and hear people out and just go with the flow instead of having your know it all im right your wrong attitude...my whips the best...but it drive me around cause i can't hold boost in a standard trans cause i can't shift fast enough fuck you come up to pa and shut me up

easy there e-thug. Seems like everyone moved on but you. There is no need to get butthurt because he wasn't talking to you and noone here knows who the fuck you are. Go crawl back into the hole you came from because audizine doesn't need anymore immature, 50 cent wannabe gangsters. There was a simple misunderstanding, it's over. Whether you like him or not, he got more acomplished in the first page of this thread then anyone else has with eliminators. Take it to PM if you have a problem tough guy, no need to take the thread further off track for people who actually want to see results.. kthanxbye.

Ragno
07-24-2009, 06:53 AM
everyone needs to stop with the "my car will walk your car" bullshit. I could build a 91 honda civic for under 10k that would beat the shit out of every car on this board down the 1/4 by close to a second. The whole objective of building a car is so that it satisfies you and that you enjoy driving it every time you get in it. No1 here is more of a man b/c their car has XXXwhp. Everyone needs to stop arguing about nothing. 450whp is a meaningless number b/c dynos are subjective. No k04 car will put down 450whp on the cobb dyno or gintani, but people like VR4-s4 have a little over 450 on another dyno and his setup doesn't have a lot of the rs4 shit.

Build the trans, throw in rods, boost the shit out of your motor, and enjoy it. I would like to see you race ben when you're ready. His car should easily be mid 11s after his meth install and it would be a good benchmark and comparison to a car I know. I'm not doubting your car at all, I would love to see these eliminators do work, there have just been a lot of big money builds that couldn't run good times. The ASP cars with "700whp" weren't breaking into the tens. Shit, the eurocode car barely broke tens with Hood driving it and it was a fully built motor with GTs. Get that trans up and running so we can finally have some good results on these eliminators.[up]


Well said [:)] [up] Is the Thread dead now or what... [race]

espo4442
07-24-2009, 07:10 AM
easy there e-thug. Seems like everyone moved on but you. There is no need to get butthurt because he wasn't talking to you and noone here knows who the fuck you are. Go crawl back into the hole you came from because audizine doesn't need anymore immature, 50 cent wannabe gangsters. There was a simple misunderstanding, it's over. Whether you like him or not, he got more acomplished in the first page of this thread then anyone else has with eliminators. Take it to PM if you have a problem tough guy, no need to take the thread further off track for people who actually want to see results.. kthanxbye.

bahah my first thoughts were who in the fuck is this guy

Dr. Jekyll
07-24-2009, 09:24 AM
easy there e-thug.

lol, awesome.

awtst3.a6
08-05-2009, 08:53 AM
Front diff blew in pieces from bad install (no oil in diffs -_-). 517 trans is not at fault. Just wanted to make that clear.

Evilevo
08-05-2009, 09:04 AM
Back together yet?

awtst3.a6
08-05-2009, 09:13 AM
Back together yet?

Ehhh Looking like next week 50%. 517 was going to pay for the labor and rebuild of the install. Buuuttt now they won't cover the warranty or labor on the trans since it was a install error. Leaving me to take it up with the shop now. Hopefully everything will go well and they just pay for my trans/labor. If not.. I could be expecting a delay. Keeping my fingers crossed.

blackbenzz
08-05-2009, 09:20 AM
Ehhh Looking like next week 50%. 517 was going to pay for the labor and rebuild of the install. Buuuttt now they won't cover the warranty or labor on the trans since it was a install error. Leaving me to take it up with the shop now. Hopefully everything will go well and they just pay for my trans/labor. If not.. I could be expecting a delay. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Damn that sucks!

Evilevo
08-05-2009, 09:21 AM
Ehhh Looking like next week 50%. 517 was going to pay for the labor and rebuild of the install. Buuuttt now they won't cover the warranty or labor on the trans since it was a install error. Leaving me to take it up with the shop now. Hopefully everything will go well and they just pay for my trans/labor. If not.. I could be expecting a delay. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Good luck man. I hate those problems. I just talked to my shop today about hurrying shit up.

wdbdy2000s4
08-05-2009, 10:11 AM
I just talked to my shop today about hurrying shit up.How'd that work out for you?

Sam, good luck getting the car back on the road.

awtst3.a6
08-10-2009, 07:09 PM
Trans will be done on Friday and shipped on Monday [up].

complacentsee
08-11-2009, 12:47 PM
Nice!

wdbdy2000s4
08-11-2009, 01:02 PM
Trans will be done on Friday and shipped on Monday [up].

prove it. lol [;)]

S4_NE
08-11-2009, 01:07 PM
[wrench] hope it all works out soon for you

awtst3.a6
08-11-2009, 01:07 PM
prove it. lol [;)]

I think this is some info you will enjoy and others...

GT2560(GT28R)
A great, ultra-fast responding GT ball bearing turbo for smaller displacement engines. Ultra reliable and the most efficient breed on the market, the GT28R will deliver full boost between 3000 and 3500rpm on 2.3-1.8L engines, and flow a peak of around 310hp.

Source: http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_100&products_id=702

With a stall of 3250rpms I will easily spool the GT's from a dig [up]. I hope to prove it shortly. [drive]

complacentsee
08-11-2009, 01:18 PM
lies, all lies.

Sales@RAI
08-11-2009, 02:54 PM
I think this is some info you will enjoy and others...

GT2560(GT28R)
A great, ultra-fast responding GT ball bearing turbo for smaller displacement engines. Ultra reliable and the most efficient breed on the market, the GT28R will deliver full boost between 3000 and 3500rpm on 2.3-1.8L engines, and flow a peak of around 310hp.

Source: http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_100&products_id=702

With a stall of 3250rpms I will easily spool the GT's from a dig [up]. I hope to prove it shortly. [drive]

Although I don't doubt what you're saying, they are talking about (1) turbo on a 1.8-2.3L engine. You have (2) of them on a 2.7, which is a bit less than 2 1.8T motors (3.6L). So, 3250 is a bit out of the question

awtst3.a6
08-11-2009, 03:44 PM
Although I don't doubt what you're saying, they are talking about (1) turbo on a 1.8-2.3L engine. You have (2) of them on a 2.7, which is a bit less than 2 1.8T motors (3.6L). So, 3250 is a bit out of the question

Hehe I have already spooled 5psi on a baseline profile at 3250rpms. I know that was talking about 1 single turbo yes.

complacentsee
08-11-2009, 03:44 PM
He never said fully spooled.

awtst3.a6
08-11-2009, 03:52 PM
He never said fully spooled.

With a 3250rpm launch holding 10-14psi I should be able to hit full boost (22-24psi) at 4.5-5rpms.

jibberjive
08-11-2009, 08:15 PM
I hope to see otherwise, but if you somehow manage to launch holding 14psi on those turbos (which, again, I don't see happening but would love to be proven otherwise) I have a feeling you're going to have a car down with an exploded tranny again. You don't seem to mind if it explodes and you're down to try though, so give her hell! (and film it!)

awtst3.a6
08-11-2009, 08:36 PM
I hope to see otherwise, but if you somehow manage to launch holding 14psi on those turbos (which, again, I don't see happening but would love to be proven otherwise) I have a feeling you're going to have a car down with an exploded tranny again. You don't seem to mind if it explodes and you're down to try though, so give her hell! (and film it!)

Thanks and will do [up]

shorterthanrich
08-11-2009, 09:17 PM
(and film it!)

x2 [up]

Mantis
08-15-2009, 06:01 AM
Looking forward to seeing this completed, I was going this way too until my second tranny tanked. I then decided to spend this seasons mod money on the 6 speed swap. Next year finish my 3.0l build. If you can pre-load the turbos to 14psi, you will be cutting 1.5 60's, that would be very impressive

MyTunes
08-30-2009, 07:06 PM
Any update?

I know of a few people that have tried to make built tips.

It seems like anything over ko4 hybrids and your just pushing too much for them unless you limit the torque.

Best of luck to you i'd love to see a built tip car ripping it up[>_<]

ENDEE666
08-30-2009, 10:24 PM
Any update?

I know of a few people that have tried to make built tips.

It seems like anything over ko4 hybrids and your just pushing too much for them unless you limit the torque.

Best of luck to you i'd love to see a built tip car ripping it up[>_<]

Funny, I was thinking about posting that earlier today. How you making out Sam? You been quiet...

complacentsee
08-31-2009, 05:20 AM
517 finished the new trans on Friday.

awtst3.a6
08-31-2009, 06:16 AM
Funny, I was thinking about posting that earlier today. How you making out Sam? You been quiet...

Busy and no point to update with out a running car

blackbenzz
08-31-2009, 06:22 AM
517 finished the new trans on Friday.

Nice! If it breaks again, find a way to fit a mercedes auto in there LOL

wdbdy2000s4
08-31-2009, 06:38 AM
Nice! If it breaks again, find a way to fit a mercedes auto in there LOL

everyone knows those trannies can't hold power. haha [>_<]

seadoo4563
08-31-2009, 10:17 AM
hurry up and finish your hoopty so i can beat that big POS

awtst3.a6
08-31-2009, 10:37 AM
hurry up and finish your hoopty so i can beat that big POS

We should put a little cash on this :) Maybe a friendly 50-200 bucs?

Don Supreme
08-31-2009, 10:41 AM
Do it!!!

seadoo4563
08-31-2009, 11:51 AM
hmmm. i would say i have a good chance seeing how you will probably blow the trans up before the finish line [>_<]

Don Supreme
08-31-2009, 11:55 AM
Its on!

awtst3.a6
08-31-2009, 12:15 PM
hmmm. i would say i have a good chance seeing how you will probably blow the trans up before the finish line [>_<]

I hope this run isn't like your UFC game :X I am guessing with that comment it is 200 bucs as well.

wdbdy2000s4
08-31-2009, 12:17 PM
I hope this run isn't like your UFC game :X I am guessing with that comment it is 200 bucs as well.

to be fair, ben just discovered Xbox. Now he's one of those kids talking shit on xbox live 24-7.

awtst3.a6
08-31-2009, 12:19 PM
to be fair, ben just discovered Xbox. Now he's one of those kids talking shit on xbox live 24-7.

I got mine 2 weeks ago... :X

S4_NE
09-02-2009, 01:03 PM
I love my X box and 360, I have played way to much Halo on it over the years lol, hope the new trans works out Sam,

Evilevo
09-02-2009, 01:48 PM
to be fair, ben just discovered Xbox. Now he's one of those kids talking shit on xbox live 24-7.

+1, you got XBL?

Blue_S4
09-25-2009, 06:53 PM
updates?

ENDEE666
09-25-2009, 07:02 PM
updates?

X2, haven't heard anything in a loooong time...

awtst3.a6
09-26-2009, 10:57 AM
ECU/TCU came in Thurs, I am trying to get everything perfect this time.

awtst3.a6
10-06-2009, 01:11 PM
The car is running with the new trans [up], but is having slipping issues 1-5 [down]. Runs fine in R. The trans company believes it is the valve body. I am going to have it pulled and shipped this week. Hopefully it is just that and I will be back on the road shortly.

blackbenzz
10-06-2009, 01:14 PM
The car is running with the new trans [up], but is having slipping issues 1-5 [down]. Runs fine in R. The trans company believes it is the valve body. I am going to have it pulled and shipped this week. Hopefully it is just that and I will be back on the road shortly.

Wtf [down]

awtst3.a6
10-06-2009, 01:15 PM
Wtf [down]

rgr that [down], they believe that it was never flushed.

wdbdy2000s4
10-06-2009, 01:16 PM
tip FTL

blackbenzz
10-06-2009, 01:19 PM
tip FTL

Wait til its done, tip FTMFW lol

jibberjive
10-06-2009, 04:29 PM
tip FTL

x 2 Too much effort for high power.

Evilevo
10-06-2009, 04:43 PM
The car is running with the new trans [up], but is having slipping issues 1-5 [down]. Runs fine in R. The trans company believes it is the valve body. I am going to have it pulled and shipped this week. Hopefully it is just that and I will be back on the road shortly.

Did you break the trans in?

blackbenzz
10-06-2009, 08:16 PM
Did you break the trans in?

How do you break in an auto trans? [confused] Once the fluid circulates through the trans its good to go

revhards4
10-06-2009, 08:27 PM
I'm no pro with Audi automatic transmissions but why do you have to pull the trans out and ship it...aren't most valve bodies accessible from the pan at the bottom?

awtst3.a6
10-06-2009, 08:44 PM
I'm no pro with Audi automatic transmissions but why do you have to pull the trans out and ship it...aren't most valve bodies accessible from the pan at the bottom?

???

The valve body is going to be pulled from the bottom and shipped. The trans doesn't need pulled or anything I agree [up]. I never said the trans was going to be pulled ;P, "it" = VB.

Evilevo
10-07-2009, 09:39 AM
How do you break in an auto trans? [confused] Once the fluid circulates through the trans its good to go

Arent you supposed to let the trans shift up and down through all the gears before you really lay into it?

awtst3.a6
10-07-2009, 10:28 AM
Arent you supposed to let the trans shift up and down through all the gears before you really lay into it?

Yeah, that is before you even drive the car though. You put it in every gear [ F D R ] to make sure the fluid goes through out the trans. Some people do have a theory that you need to break in the trans with light driving for 300-500 miles.


[evilmad]
Man I am pissed off / happy... I got the car towed today to another shop where the valve body will be pulled and sent back to 517trans. The car is having slipping issues under 2-4psi in gears 1-5 and everything else seems to check out. Under 1/4th WOT in D the car shifts and drives fine. The car drives and boost fine in reverse under full WOT[headbang]. One good thing of the day though was how mean she sounded at idle when putting her on/off the flat bed. I wanted to rev it in N so bad :P I wish I had a camera and sadly don't have a media card for my blackberry :(. Sorry for the wait guys and hopefully I will be on the road by next week. [up] (fingers crossed)


SK

ENDEE666
10-07-2009, 10:42 AM
One good thing of the day though was how mean she sounded at idle when putting her on/off the flat bed.

Isn't that why you stayed with the tip trans? To build the meanest sounding car on a flat bed? [rolleyes] Mission accomplished lol

awtst3.a6
10-07-2009, 01:44 PM
Isn't that why you stayed with the tip trans? To build the meanest sounding car on a flat bed? [rolleyes] Mission accomplished lol

lol?

awtst3.a6
10-07-2009, 01:48 PM
Valve body shipped out today [up], 517 should have it tomorrow and back to me Friday. Still have my fingers crossed about it just being the vb

blackbenzz
10-07-2009, 07:36 PM
Arent you supposed to let the trans shift up and down through all the gears before you really lay into it?

Yea thats what I meant. That takes a few minutes. No real break in

The Stig
10-09-2009, 01:20 AM
Valve body shipped out today [up], 517 should have it tomorrow and back to me Friday. Still have my fingers crossed about it just being the vb

I can't wait to see your car up and running.http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7752/topgearthestig00105dd5.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/topgearthestig00105dd5.jpg/)[up]

S4_NE
10-09-2009, 06:14 AM
How do you break in an auto trans? [confused] Once the fluid circulates through the trans its good to go

Acording to 517 when they build my trans for me there was a 350 mile break in if i remeber corectly, I only have K04's and mine has been good for over 8K

blackbenzz
10-09-2009, 07:07 AM
Acording to 517 when they build my trans for me there was a 350 mile break in if i remeber corectly, I only have K04's and mine has been good for over 8K

Mine had 0 mile break in and its doing fine [>_<] Guess different people have different recommendations, just like engines. I just went through all the gears and then let er rip

awtst3.a6
10-09-2009, 07:46 AM
I can't wait to see your car up and running.http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7752/topgearthestig00105dd5.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/topgearthestig00105dd5.jpg/)[up]

AHHHHHHH hahah nice img stig haha

timcoats
10-09-2009, 10:21 AM
Finally someone got smart and built an auto [>_<]

why auto? isnt manual better anyways?

wdbdy2000s4
10-09-2009, 10:42 AM
why auto? isnt manual better anyways?

not for quarter times.

awtst3.a6
10-09-2009, 12:34 PM
Valve body returned to the shop today [up]. It is being put back in right now and hopefully I should know something by the end of the day.

RuS4ty
10-09-2009, 12:57 PM
schweet

awtst3.a6
10-09-2009, 01:03 PM
schweet

Rusty from charlottesville? jw

RuS4ty
10-09-2009, 01:12 PM
shhhh.... dont tell anyone.
hah yeah this is him.

awtst3.a6
10-09-2009, 01:16 PM
shhhh.... dont tell anyone.
hah yeah this is him.

haha, i figured when I saw the two states. I hope everything has been well! Hit me up for sure whenever you get back in town. Hopefully this this will be rolling by then :)

Evilevo
10-10-2009, 10:54 AM
Mine had 0 mile break in and its doing fine [>_<] Guess different people have different recommendations, just like engines. I just went through all the gears and then let er rip

All the way to 190 [>_<]

awtst3.a6
10-12-2009, 04:49 PM
Trans is being pulled and shipped back out. Should be 1-2 weeks until another trans is in.

Evilevo
10-12-2009, 05:37 PM
Trans is being pulled and shipped back out. Should be 1-2 weeks until another trans is in.

That sucks man! Hope you get everything figured out!

awtst3.a6
10-12-2009, 05:58 PM
That sucks man! Hope you get everything figured out!

Thanks man! I hope everything has been going well with your build.

mrpeterparker
10-12-2009, 06:08 PM
what... adam's infinity FATS car? yeah that's coming along reeeeeeeeal good =P

adam will tell you =P

awtst3.a6
10-12-2009, 07:15 PM
what... adam's infinity FATS car? yeah that's coming along reeeeeeeeal good =P

adam will tell you =P

confused [confused]

complacentsee
10-12-2009, 07:43 PM
So, transmission problems remain?

Evilevo
10-12-2009, 08:14 PM
what... adam's infinity FATS car? yeah that's coming along reeeeeeeeal good =P

adam will tell you =P

Haha, my car is coming along well! Now that is finally in my control! Thankfully I have friends that are willing to help me get the car done. We hope to have everything in the car the same weekend the turbo kit gets here from Agtronic

awtst3.a6
10-12-2009, 09:40 PM
So, transmission problems remain?

Ding Ding. Why else would the trans be pulled for the 3rd time -_-


Haha, my car is coming along well! Now that is finally in my control! Thankfully I have friends that are willing to help me get the car done. We hope to have everything in the car the same weekend the turbo kit gets here from Agtronic

yeah I saw that. I was thinking about doing the same thing before we got the ball rolling again. Had it towed the other day to a different shop. Hopefully 3rd times a charm.

complacentsee
10-13-2009, 07:48 AM
[QUOTE=awtst3.a6;4361786]Ding Ding. Why else would the trans be pulled for the 3rd time -_-
QUOTE]

Missed that post. lol.

Evilevo
10-13-2009, 01:17 PM
Ding Ding. Why else would the trans be pulled for the 3rd time -_-



yeah I saw that. I was thinking about doing the same thing before we got the ball rolling again. Had it towed the other day to a different shop. Hopefully 3rd times a charm.

+1, the only thing i am ever going to take my car back to a shop for is to have my custom Catback made.

awtst3.a6
10-15-2009, 11:23 AM
Trans was picked up last night [up], Hopefully we are looking at next week the new trans will be in. It is also very shocking how great aamco has been to work with.

S4_NE
10-15-2009, 11:32 AM
hope this time the trans works

awtst3.a6
10-15-2009, 12:12 PM
hope this time the trans works

Yah I agree.. 1st time was the shop not putting diff fluid in, 2nd time I really have no clue... I never even drove the car other than .1 .2 miles. 3rd time? I am with you. I am hoping the bullshit stops.

FlaS4
10-15-2009, 12:32 PM
Just in case the 3rd time isn't the charm...
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295476

But hope it works! I've been following your thread in hope that you can make a reliable TIP car with bigger than KO4's. If you can get this working good finally then I will probly go with 517 too, but if not a swap may come down the road.

awtst3.a6
10-15-2009, 01:47 PM
Just in case the 3rd time isn't the charm...
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295476

But hope it works! I've been following your thread in hope that you can make a reliable TIP car with bigger than KO4's. If you can get this working good finally then I will probly go with 517 too, but if not a swap may come down the road.

Ehh, I think this might be the last go. We will see.

Reich
10-15-2009, 07:29 PM
I'll be in York Pa in two weeks for training. So i'll go visit both ipt and 517 shops in NJ and have a good talk with them.

seadoo4563
10-16-2009, 05:52 AM
damn.... what happen to putting it on a roll back first thing an bringing it out my way so you and i can run before it breaks again????

[down]

wdbdy2000s4
10-16-2009, 06:02 AM
Ehh, I think this might be the last go. We will see.

If this doesn't work then just do a 6 speed swap and call it a day.

seadoo4563
10-16-2009, 06:13 AM
If this doesn't work then just do a 6 speed swap and call it a day.

should have done that the first time around instead of messing around with a tip.

S4_NE
10-16-2009, 06:37 AM
My TIP Ko4 car witha 517 trans shop tip rebuild is holding strong, but maybe Gt' are to much for it,
my avant I picked up for a DD may have a swap in it future if I can get a parts car cheap, I hope Sam's car works and GT' are a working option for tip cars

awtst3.a6
10-16-2009, 09:35 AM
My TIP Ko4 car witha 517 trans shop tip rebuild is holding strong, but maybe Gt' are to much for it,
my avant I picked up for a DD may have a swap in it future if I can get a parts car cheap, I hope Sam's car works and GT' are a working option for tip cars

My stock trans was holding 25-26psi on ko4s with rs4 cams ect. I am not to worried about this time around and atleast it isn't on my dime.




damn.... what happen to putting it on a roll back first thing an bringing it out my way so you and i can run before it breaks again????

[down]

Well Ben, Hopefully you don't blow a head before next week. Are we putting money down like I asked? I would love dick slapping your ko4 car. I love how you didn't say shit to me on AIM when I called you out? You prob haven't even ran a 11 yet! HA Like I told you previously.. My ko4 car would've beat you so staffoo.

wdbdy2000s4
10-16-2009, 10:05 AM
Well Ben, Hopefully you don't blow a head before next week. Are we putting money down like I asked? I would love dick slapping your ko4 car. I love how you didn't say shit to me on AIM when I called you out? You prob haven't even ran a 11 yet! HA Like I told you previously.. My ko4 car would've beat you so staffoo.
You should probly wait until your trans can hold for 5 miles before you start calling people out. Your car hasn't even limped around the streets without slipping and your trans is going to magically take the beating of a track run? Shit, I'll throw money on Ben's car because yours isn't even running. Are you going to push it down the track in 11 seconds? lol

and when is the last time a k04 car blew a head on 22PSI? haha

awtst3.a6
10-16-2009, 10:15 AM
You should probly wait until your trans can hold for 5 miles before you start calling people out. Your car hasn't even limped around the streets without slipping and your trans is going to magically take the beating of a track run? Shit, I'll throw money on Ben's car because yours isn't even running. Are you going to push it down the track in 11 seconds? lol

and when is the last time a k04 car blew a head on 22PSI? haha

Say what you want, I knew his butt buddies would come in for support [up]. If you want to back up his shit talk with your money go ahead man. I have been in the car and it isn't as fast as you guys hype it up to be. Also you talk like you know what has happened each time the trans has failed? Stop being stupid.

On a side note.. I don't know another ko4 car I guess that has blown a head other than his? I don't remember the details, but I know he did it previously. That is why he is scared of his meth.

complacentsee
10-16-2009, 10:23 AM
VTB (myself off this forum)

awtst3.a6
10-16-2009, 10:25 AM
VTB (myself off this forum)

hahah Vote to ban?

wdbdy2000s4
10-16-2009, 10:26 AM
I never commented once as to why your trans failed so I'm not sure how I "talk like [I] know what has happened each time the trans has failed." [rolleyes] You don't even know why your trans failed. lol. That's why you sent out the valve body and then the trans.

butt buddy? I'm just calling you out for talking like you know everything when you have no clue. You're just some clown kid who has all the answers in the auto a6 his daddy bought him. If you really knew as much as you say you do then you would have put the turbos on yourself, or at least pulled the motor. Your eliminator turbos are not god gift to man so get over yourself and stop talking shit to people for no reason...Or keep talking shit, idc, it keeps me entertained at work.

awtst3.a6
10-16-2009, 10:40 AM
I never commented once as to why your trans failed so I'm not sure how I "talk like [I] know what has happened each time the trans has failed." [rolleyes] You don't even know why your trans failed. lol. That's why you sent out the valve body and then the trans.

butt buddy? I'm just calling you out for talking like you know everything when you have no clue. You're just some clown kid who has all the answers in the auto a6 his daddy bought him. If you really knew as much as you say you do then you would have put the turbos on yourself, or at least pulled the motor. Your eliminator turbos are not god gift to man so get over yourself and stop talking shit to people for no reason...Or keep talking shit, idc, it keeps me entertained at work.

HA, Daddys money? Are you talking to Ben [=(] or me (or your self? [=(]). I have worked for everything on my car(from stage 1 tune to gts ), and yes I know why my trans failed(both times). If you really want to know about me a little... I ran a company for 2 years by my self with 20-25 people working for me. I had the keys dropped in my hand day one, with a high school education, and I made it work. Even with the economy I had work for my people every day. The company made profit for 2 years under me running it and it was recently sold. You don't think I saved a little cash and got some with the company being sold? I don't need to prove anything to you, and you can think I have daddys money all you want. All I know is for the next 4-7 years I won't be sitting behind a desk checking AZ like you. I just post here to give people help with tips. Go ahead and keep being a dick with your pointless comments that goes no where [up], shocking how you have that rep.

wdbdy2000s4
10-16-2009, 10:57 AM
Congratualtions on paying for your car and not having daddy's money. Congratualtions on your HS education too. [up] Nice life story too...seriously, real tear-jerker.

I'm perfectly happy checking AZ at work with the salary they pay me (not really sure how that was an insult). Maybe I should just hang around AZ on weekends and at night time instead.[rolleyes]

I'm sure I've offered more help to the s4 guys then you have by any means, hence my rep. Blowing your trans every week and talking shit to people isn't regarded as helpful in my book. All you have done is speculate and brag about how fast your car is going to be. I have a good rep because I help people who actually need it. I rarely ever am a dick unless some keyboard cowboy is talking shit in the wrong forum. You have been cocky and calling people out since you bought your shwaggy "turbo kit" and then expect everyone to be nice to you. As fun as internet arguments are, I'll stop cluttering your thread. PM me if you want to talk some more sweetheart.

Way to be immature and negative rep me for repsonding. [down]