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the dog
05-30-2009, 03:26 PM
I will like to apologize in advance for my bad English.. It am from Cyprus and I rarely use English.
I have been a member on this post for some time now and I visit it daily… The info inside this forum is amazing…But I rarely post…..A Big thanks to Sammy for all of his help
Enough of the prologue….. As the title suggests, this is a post about my built.
My car is actually is a swap mess…It’s a 8H7 cabrio with rs4 b7 wide body (under construction) BUT with a B5 2000 S4 AGB engine. I hope I don’t get flamed for this….

Anw..My setup includes

1. JE 83mm custom pistons with antifriction coating (9.1 compression)
2. 034 rods
3. Coated rod and main bearing set
4. Raceware Head studs
5. 034 Girdles set
6. Port and polish 2.8 N/A Heads
7. 034 Valve Spring Set, 5-valve, High Rate and Lift w/Ti Ret.
8. 034 Valve Set, Oversized
9. For now 2.8 intake cam (Hydrolifter) …But I will chance to catcam 1004052 really soon (+ adjustable gear)
10. Custom Comp-turbo CT4376 twin scroll triple ball bearing
11. Custom exhaust & intake manifolds (still under development)
12. Custom throttle 80mm
13. 034 twin 044 Bosch Fuel pumps with upgraded fuel lines and fuel rails
14. 034 custom exhaust system

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/Image044.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/Image034.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/Image066.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/Image156.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/Image109.jpg

jibberjive
05-30-2009, 06:55 PM
Nice man. Any pics of the car? Good luck!

RolledMySTi
05-30-2009, 08:47 PM
Wow! Sounds like a hell of a build up. What kind of power are you shooting for?

AudiA4_20T
05-30-2009, 09:10 PM
WAIT WTF how did you get an S4 engine in a B6?

Bimmerchop
05-30-2009, 09:57 PM
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/FIREdevil.gif

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/858/rs4b7v6tt.jpg

the dog
05-31-2009, 03:57 AM
The turbo is good for 950 crank hp... The funny looking one on the right....For reasons not known to me they when on to polish the turbo....ah well....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/DSC_4745.jpg
I am still in the built process...Those are some pictures of mockup

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/IMG_0509.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image193.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image188.jpg

SourDieselS4
05-31-2009, 05:25 AM
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/FIREdevil.gif

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/858/rs4b7v6tt.jpg

[hail] NICE! I love it!

S4FORCE1
05-31-2009, 07:30 AM
Subscribed!

DceptvS4
05-31-2009, 08:16 AM
nice build, I cant wait to see the finished product

AMC
05-31-2009, 08:43 AM
wow, its gonna be perfect [:)] [up]

the dog
06-11-2009, 12:49 AM
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image216.jpg

S-Power
06-11-2009, 01:11 AM
Did you have the V8 RS6 Bi-Turbo Motor in that car before? Or am i thinking of another person

the dog
06-11-2009, 04:36 AM
Nop..Thats not me

tike0rz
06-11-2009, 05:28 AM
WOW! Good luck! Be sure to post many pics every step of the way!

You have great English, don't be so modest! Where is Cyprus?

awtst3.a6
06-11-2009, 05:41 AM
Somebody say Sexy? Very nice

the dog
06-11-2009, 07:11 AM
Nicosia

sakimano
06-11-2009, 07:17 AM
Did you have the V8 RS6 Bi-Turbo Motor in that car before? Or am i thinking of another person

incredibly, that was another guy (also from Greece I think)

remember the picture of it floating in the air?

sakimano
06-11-2009, 07:18 AM
Where is Cyprus?



Cypress is an island just off the coast of Greece. Half is occupied by Turkey, the other half is Greek.

RolledMySTi
06-11-2009, 08:51 AM
Looking good, but more pictures!

chromedomewooki
06-11-2009, 10:21 AM
keeping an eye on this thread

Bon-Of-A-Sitch
06-11-2009, 10:22 AM
people over-seas do some cool shit.

S4_NE
06-11-2009, 10:25 AM
Good luck and it is going to sick when you are done ,

imola
06-11-2009, 10:35 AM
Great build and swap!

imola
06-11-2009, 10:35 AM
Where is Cyprus?

Dude, really? [confused]

tike0rz
06-11-2009, 11:27 AM
Dude, really? [confused]

Do you find something offensive about my geographical knowledge? Is there really a need for criticism? Sigh. [rolleyes]

the dog
06-11-2009, 11:32 AM
I am off to a business trip next week....Unfortunately I will put the project on hold for 1 week... :(

Monchichi8
06-11-2009, 01:02 PM
WOW! subscribed!

AudiSportB5S4
06-11-2009, 01:04 PM
that's an awesome build. soo cool to see the 2.7 in the B7

AudiSportB5S4
06-11-2009, 01:05 PM
Cypress is an island just off the coast of Greece. Half is occupied by Turkey, the other half is Greek.

My girlfriend who is 100% Greek said they don't like the Turks. That must work out nice. [evilsmile]

wdbdy2000s4
06-11-2009, 01:08 PM
Just another build? haha. yeah right, this is an awesome build [up]

MissAudiSport
06-11-2009, 01:22 PM
Kali tixi.. Pes mas pos yinetai otan telioseis !!

ThirdStrike
06-11-2009, 01:27 PM
wow subscribed
and id hardly call this "just another build"
it should be something along the lines of "supergreat-2.7t-B6awesomeness" or some shit

Dr.Duct
06-11-2009, 01:37 PM
very cool my friend, and you speak good english.

I will def. keep posted on this one.

S-Power
06-11-2009, 02:45 PM
This build is really the best of both worlds, you get the sexy ass rs4 looks and interior and then you back it up with a built twin turbo motor, I mean how much better does it get guys [:D][up]

the dog
06-11-2009, 03:29 PM
Thanks guys......(Its a single turbo project)...
Btw, should I worry about excess crank pressure built up?

wdbdy2000s4
06-11-2009, 03:36 PM
Thanks guys......(Its a single turbo project)...
Btw, should I worry about excess crank pressure built up?

You'll be fine. If you're really paranoid you should check out Guru's setup.

Boris
06-11-2009, 03:51 PM
Thanks guys......(Its a single turbo project)...
Btw, should I worry about excess crank pressure built up?

I would. ASp had problems with that on their gt car. Need some catch cans etc.

wdbdy2000s4
06-11-2009, 04:00 PM
I would. ASp had problems with that on their gt car. Need some catch cans etc.

ASP has built 30+ GT cars and had problems with only that one. Like GURU said, they probly just built a loose motor so they could rev the piss out of it.

joe dub
06-11-2009, 04:08 PM
awesome, havnt seen that done yet

Boris
06-11-2009, 04:12 PM
ASP has built 30+ GT cars and had problems with only that one. Like GURU said, they probly just built a loose motor so they could rev the piss out of it.

hmm, I dont know what the other gt cars are boosting, but a oil catch can system seems pretty par for the course with any high boost car 27+ psi..(i figure the dog's single setup might be pushing something like that). I always saw them on higher boosting supras, gtr's , etc.

How hard would it be btw, to put our APB into B6 A4? or B7? how hard would the wiring be? would it be easier to run a 034 standalone?

Spooled1.8
06-11-2009, 04:17 PM
feneteh oraio re maga! Good luck on the build, looking foward to updates [:)]

the dog
06-11-2009, 10:54 PM
Poli patrida exoume..... :)
Turbo specs...
CT4 Compressor cover 4" inlet 2.5" outlet
Compressor wheel is a CT76 76mm inducer 102mm Major
Bearing pack is a CT3B C eramic ball bearing center
Turbine wheel is a 10 blade inconel SX Trim 2.95" Exducer
Turbine housing is a .84 T4 inlet twin scroll with a 3.5 V-band outlet

jibberjive
06-12-2009, 03:41 AM
I AM IMPRESSED.

I literally LOL'ed when I read that haha[>_<]

djwimbo
06-12-2009, 07:16 AM
people over-seas do some cool shit.

Couldn't have said it better myself.


This build is really the best of both worlds, you get the sexy ass rs4 looks and interior and then you back it up with a built twin turbo motor, I mean how much better does it get guys [:D][up]

You must have missed the single turbo part of the build.

And the car is a B6 A4 with a B7 widebody and a built 2.7T

the dog
06-12-2009, 07:51 AM
Like I said....its a swap mess :)

Sharkfin
06-12-2009, 09:29 AM
subscribed

djwimbo
06-12-2009, 11:20 AM
Like I said....its a swap mess :)

It's ok, all the real enthusiasts support your intentions.

Just don't bail on us and drop the project and never show us completed pictures.

diabolical1
06-12-2009, 12:16 PM
your written English is better than many people for whom it is their native tongue. you're fine.

as far as your project is concerned, it is simply awesome! i love it! the motor is a beauty. the car is a beauty. i can't wait to see it all together and hear how it runs. i definitely dig it.

the dog
06-13-2009, 04:23 AM
No way...Its going to finish no matter what....
I should have picture of the exhaust manifold next week...

BreakMyWallet
06-21-2009, 07:54 PM
subscribed!

planning on dropping the b5 s4 motor in my car, so i could use some tips from this thread!

Whiteout
06-21-2009, 08:40 PM
i have a b6 with a b7 front end swap and i am putting a 2.7t into it also, just started sourcing parts now, any help or adivise would be great!

Overboostin
06-21-2009, 10:30 PM
How are you dealing with the wiring and everything?

the dog
06-22-2009, 05:45 AM
It would be my pleasure to help if I can. Pm me..
I bought the S4 Ecu wiring that I should be installing on the car next weekend...(Just got back from abroad).
The 7.1 ECU harness is the same as the 7.5 (immo problem is fixed) . My only concern is the compatibility of the ecu with the tacho and abs module, but if it fails I have a backup plan.

Whiteout
06-22-2009, 11:00 PM
keep me posted PLEASE!

the dog
07-02-2009, 02:22 PM
Well… Thinks are getting from bad to worse…..

All of you who have supertech valve springs kit (from 034 ) please read this…

I had a professional do the head work but he did not clean the heads…. So I had to dissemble the valves and springs ,clean the heads and reinstall everything.
Imagine my surprise when I saw this…

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image227.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image229.jpg


This is completely new and unused spring kit. 6 spacer are crack , 2 of them have a lot of material missing… I doubt that it was cause from a bad installation.
Thank god I dissemble the head and saw it……I cant think of what would happen if I installed it as it was on the engine.
So now I can work on the heads until I receive new replacement spacers….

On top of that I realize I was send the wrong rod bearings. The ones they send me where 1.5mm oversized. So I have to wait again to get the correct rod bearings….
So I can not even work on the block..

Pictures of the heads...Port &polished 2.8 heads
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image232.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image231.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image230.jpg

fatezero
07-02-2009, 02:50 PM
so what did 034 have to say??? Wow, I can't believe you caught that... Lucky guy

the dog
07-02-2009, 03:14 PM
I am stunt myself.....I can believe no one notice it before. I don't even know if anyone ever look after they install them .Maybe is an isolated event.
The machine shop I used for the head work is called DRAKOS. It the best machine shop in Greece and I live in Cyprus...I send the heads all the way to Greece just to have them work on them. I dont think it was the machine shop fault
I did not email the pistures to 034 ...I just got back from the shop...
I ordered new spacers from a third party supertech vendor which responded faster.

the dog
07-15-2009, 05:33 AM
Just received the correct rod bearings.....
i will drop the pistons in tonight and try to finish the bottom end..... :)

RolledMySTi
07-15-2009, 08:44 AM
Good luck with the heads. Other than the spacer issue they are looking great.

DxC
07-15-2009, 09:20 AM
2.7t bored to a 3.0t in a b6 a4 with 3.0 badge would be the cats pajamas.

but this is cool too ;)

viperbl
07-15-2009, 09:20 AM
What kind of power are you hoping for? and more importantly, what rpm do you expect full spoolup at?

I put some GT2871R's on my 2.7 RS4 engine with 2.4 NA heads ported and polished, with .64 AR I am getting full boost (1.9bar) @ ~5000 rpm, 1 bar @ ~4000 rpm. Reving to 8k and made around ~700 chp. I would have liked spoolup a little quicker so will be keen to see how yours does :)

Good luck mate :)

S4_NE
07-15-2009, 10:11 AM
good catch with the bad hardware

the dog
07-15-2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks...I will need it...

Anything above 600 whp and I would be happy...
If I get close to 700 whp I would be really happy...
The turbo is good for 950 chp..that's what? 780whp?

As for spool I am really clueless....
It all depends on the manifold which is still under development from INA . He promise I will have it be the end of this month. I hope he does keep his promise..
The Comp turbo is a twin scroll to help it spool better but its a big ass turbo....We will see...I already built the head to rev up to 8200rpm
I will be happy to have your spool. Doesn't sound too bad...

viperbl
07-15-2009, 04:46 PM
Its good fun trying something new, so pleased your posting up here and I will be watching with interest :)

I rev to 8200 as well, you will love revving up there! You tube my username to see what it looks like :)

I think I just miss my low down torque, that’s all, but now got loads of HP, can’t have it all I suppose!

golf#1
07-23-2009, 07:46 AM
update!

wdbdy2000s4
07-23-2009, 07:57 AM
Its good fun trying something new, so pleased your posting up here and I will be watching with interest :)

I rev to 8200 as well, you will love revving up there! You tube my username to see what it looks like :)

I think I just miss my low down torque, that’s all, but now got loads of HP, can’t have it all I suppose!

I just saw the video of you going 198mph....that guy in the right line must have shit his pants when you passed him going 195. lol

JWS4
07-23-2009, 06:07 PM
[up] Awsome Build, cant wait to see more progress.

Reich
07-23-2009, 10:01 PM
Wow...That's impressive. Is there a bit more room for a single setup in that car compared to b5? Look's pretty much like the same size from pics above.
Good thing you decide to clean your heads.
I'm in the thread.

the dog
07-24-2009, 12:53 AM
Well......
Motor wise I have installed the pistons and rods.....I am still working on the oilpan.....The girdle plate is a major pita.................
I had to play Picasso with the dremeler on the oil pump(Have to remove a LOT of material) and oil baffle.... funny think is that it does not even list them in the installation instructions... I should be done with the oilpan today and move to the heads...

I have been busy with wiring too.....I think I have the wiring sorted but I still need to test it on the engine once that is done........
As for the body I installed the rear bumper and right front fender....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image248.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image246.jpg

the dog
07-24-2009, 12:55 AM
I think the have identical dimensions...

btw...since the motor hood I got is wrong (for the sedan NOT the cabrio) do you know where I can get an aftermarket one (carbon)....?

Reich
07-24-2009, 08:46 PM
I think the have identical dimensions...

btw...since the motor hood I got is wrong (for the sedan NOT the cabrio) do you know where I can get an aftermarket one (carbon)....?

No sorry. What's the big issue with the hood you have?

Sales@RAI
07-24-2009, 08:52 PM
No sorry. What's the big issue with the hood you have?

it seems like he wants a CF one but no one makes it

the dog
07-25-2009, 03:28 AM
No sorry. What's the big issue with the hood you have?

The cabrio models have different A-pillars...There pitch is different. So the fenders and motor hood are different in the cabrio...
I got a sedan hood so I need a cabrio motor hood

revhards4
07-25-2009, 05:47 AM
What kind of power are you hoping for? and more importantly, what rpm do you expect full spoolup at?

I put some GT2871R's on my 2.7 RS4 engine with 2.4 NA heads ported and polished, with .64 AR I am getting full boost (1.9bar) @ ~5000 rpm, 1 bar @ ~4000 rpm. Reving to 8k and made around ~700 chp. I would have liked spoolup a little quicker so will be keen to see how yours does :)

Good luck mate :)

where do you get these 2.4L N/A heads you speak of? WHat are the advantages and dis-advantages?

Turbo Nerd
07-25-2009, 07:46 AM
Thanks...I will need it...

Anything above 600 whp and I would be happy...
If I get close to 700 whp I would be really happy...
The turbo is good for 950 chp..that's what? 780whp?

As for spool I am really clueless....
It all depends on the manifold which is still under development from INA . He promise I will have it be the end of this month. I hope he does keep his promise..
The Comp turbo is a twin scroll to help it spool better but its a big ass turbo....We will see...I already built the head to rev up to 8200rpm
I will be happy to have your spool. Doesn't sound too bad...

Its all about the flow IMO. Im really stuck on that theory idc about what turbos people run and other shit but to tell you the truth I think flow is the most important thing. I love that word "Flow" I need to incorporate that into my license plate.

BTW the build looks crazy!! Goodluck man im subscribed like flies on shit.

B5stgIII
07-25-2009, 01:03 PM
This is awesome, good luck on the build! Subscribed

wdbdy2000s4
07-26-2009, 07:26 AM
where do you get these 2.4L N/A heads you speak of? WHat are the advantages and dis-advantages?

the 2.4 heads are from europe and they flow way more then 2.8s or rs4 heads. There is some info in satan's child's thread.

the dog
07-26-2009, 05:48 PM
Why would the 2.4 heads outflow a 2.8 head? both are ported....

Audi S4 Turbo
07-26-2009, 06:13 PM
subscribed!

planning on dropping the b5 s4 motor in my car, so i could use some tips from this thread!

I know you, you are on E46fanatics. We're friends on myspace too. Bmw M3 Guy on E46.

wdbdy2000s4
07-26-2009, 06:22 PM
Why would the 2.4 heads outflow a 2.8 head? both are ported....

the 2.4 and 2.8 use the same size valves but iirc the 2.4s have more material to work so that the flow can be optimized. I'm by no means an expert on this but I remember a post by OZZ or Satan's Child saying the 2.4s will outflow the 2.8 heads. Both of these guys have spent between 5 and 15 thousand dollars on different heads so I would ask them for the info since they are probly the most knowledgeable on the subject around here.

BreakMyWallet
07-29-2009, 04:21 PM
do you have the wiring worked out?any suggestions for someone else doing this swap??

the dog
07-30-2009, 11:58 AM
I did finish the wiring but I have not test them yet......
Sure I can help you...Tell me what do you need...? Enigne/year etc and I will post you the wiring diagrams

SpoolPastYou
07-30-2009, 03:06 PM
this is truely awesome..its a shame, i want a newer style audi very badly but in no way would sacrafice that much power loss...i have two very big questions for you..1st, who is tuning this thing and with what?? and second..what do you do for a living to drop this kinda money?? lol

the dog
08-03-2009, 01:38 PM
Update

8pistons RS6 brakes.....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/BWLFSgmkKGrHgoH-CcEjlLlyiyvBKb0LZyc.jpg

Fuel....

http://www.sx-performance.com/15404%20(new).jpg

Injectors DEKA 850

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/8279_12.jpg

Oil cooler

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/2f04_12.jpg

Wideband Lambda sensor and logger

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/ssi.jpg

Rs4 intake

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/BWC6ibQ2kKGrHgoH-C0EjlLlu15ZBKVjN6o.jpg

Fans & controller

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/315b_1.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/1487_12.jpg

AWE Drive Train Stabilizer....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/AWE_dts_kit.jpg

the dog
08-03-2009, 01:40 PM
.....
Torsen mod....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image254.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image256.jpg

Overload is tuning the car and they are going to tune to work mafless..
I am an environmental engineer.

wdbdy2000s4
08-03-2009, 01:43 PM
...will you adopt me and buy me baller shit?

awtst3.a6
08-03-2009, 02:28 PM
...will you adopt me and buy me baller shit?

hahahahahahahahahh

the dog
08-04-2009, 12:14 AM
come to daddy.........

golf#1
08-04-2009, 06:40 AM
More more more..............

RolledMySTi
08-04-2009, 09:03 AM
Keep it coming. Your car is going to be an absolute beast!

B5stgIII
08-04-2009, 12:41 PM
sweet Hay-Zeus

Wizard-of-OD
08-04-2009, 01:03 PM
Nice parts Dog [:p]

the dog
08-05-2009, 01:25 AM
...Still waiting for the "other" parts Issam [;)]

Wizard-of-OD
08-05-2009, 01:41 AM
...Still waiting for the "other" parts Issam [;)]
ssssh

the dog
08-05-2009, 02:33 AM
[:)]

CRAIG1MACK
08-07-2009, 03:36 PM
subscribed.

the dog
08-09-2009, 09:14 AM
was...

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/y1pE1JmPcGr_vNImFedi1ldHmxrlddJE-1.jpg

has become...

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image259-1.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/image261.jpg

Reich
08-09-2009, 10:48 PM
Wow that's a lot of work.

Wizard-of-OD
08-10-2009, 06:16 PM
Loving it!

golf#1
08-11-2009, 06:42 PM
dog...... waiting :)

EUROTEK//S4
08-11-2009, 08:15 PM
def. one of the best builds on AZ!

jukesandz
08-27-2009, 11:37 PM
Cyrus has the freaking sweetest national anthem. [up]

And awesome build...but mostly I like your national anthem. [:D]

B5stgIII
08-28-2009, 02:38 PM
Progress?

Reich
08-28-2009, 04:01 PM
^^^^ +1

EUROTEK//S4
08-28-2009, 10:42 PM
^^^^ +1

+2


this car deserves a wild paint job, like sprint/sepang/nogaro blue or glut/papaya orange...[up]

the dog
08-29-2009, 04:57 AM
Will get pictures in a bit....

I am almost done with the engine.....Heads are in,timing is done,installed the Billet flywheel and clutch.
All I need to do now is to put back together the water hoses.....which I would like to replace with new ones but I can find any aftermarket ones. Any suggestions?
The water cooler finally came throw yesterday.

My biggest problem is with the manifold which is STILL not done....I may start the car with the stock k03........ :(

complacentsee
08-29-2009, 07:40 AM
Glad those coolers finally came. Stuid messup with shipping. Take some pictures and let us know how the quaility is.

TheyCallMeARI
08-29-2009, 10:16 AM
awesomee! amazing build

the dog
08-31-2009, 01:51 PM
The liquid cooler came. Quality is good ....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/31082009300.jpg

FlaS4
09-20-2009, 04:36 PM
Updates on this?

Looks good so far.

diabolical1
09-22-2009, 12:35 AM
where are you now with the build? haven't seen any updates in a few weeks. can you tell i really, really love this project?

also, if you don't mind sharing (whether here or PM) how did you physically mount the engine in the B6 chassis?

the dog
09-23-2009, 12:16 PM
Engine is done......rs4 body is done...wiring is done (but not tested),fueling and new fuel lines are done..rs4 radiators and custom water hoses done..BUTmanifolds are not done.
And its not up to me..I am waiting for those since March...

Engine brackets on the chassis is the same....
The b5 suframe bolts onto the 8H chassis . I used the 8h control arms..Only problem is the DTS but I will fix that shortly...

diabolical1
09-30-2009, 09:33 PM
... BUT manifolds are not done.
And its not up to me..I am waiting for those since March ...
since March, eh? that sucks. well, i'll be waiting patiently. [cool]


Engine brackets on the chassis is the same....
The b5 suframe bolts onto the 8H chassis . I used the 8h control arms..Only problem is the DTS but I will fix that shortly...

thanks for the response. that helped me a lot. what's the DTS though?

car
10-01-2009, 03:01 AM
The liquid cooler came. Quality is good ....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/31082009300.jpg

Where did you get this setup?

diabolical1
10-01-2009, 03:24 PM
for those others that may have not known ... DTS = drivetrain stabilizer. [:)]

bryzf1
11-12-2009, 12:02 PM
any updates?

fenderstrat1184
11-12-2009, 12:39 PM
WOW.... more pics plzzzzz

the dog
11-12-2009, 01:09 PM
Even thow thats not my car.......they are still me items

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/INAEngineering095.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/INAEngineering094.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/INAEngineering087.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/INAEngineering085.jpg

APBS4
11-12-2009, 01:58 PM
thats cool. whatd u intend to do with the vac ports on the back of the intake manifold???

wdbdy2000s4
11-12-2009, 02:16 PM
polished turbo for the win! that's gotta add like 1000hp. [>_<]

Looking good man. can't wait to see the final product.

the dog
11-12-2009, 02:35 PM
so that's 950hp+1000hp? [>_<]
And to think that they charge extra for the polished ones....And I didn't pay or wanted it polish...

APBS4 to tell you truth I am more worried about the 4 inch downpipe ...I don't think it will fit.......

jstdoit1112
11-12-2009, 02:52 PM
subscribed .. good luck

APBS4
11-12-2009, 04:17 PM
so that's 950hp+1000hp? [>_<]
And to think that they charge extra for the polished ones....And I didn't pay or wanted it polish...

APBS4 to tell you truth I am more worried about the 4 inch downpipe ...I don't think it will fit.......

what turbo is that? why go 4"? isn't the exhaust outlet only 3 or 3.5"?

orttauq
11-12-2009, 10:43 PM
what turbo is that? why go 4"? isn't the exhaust outlet only 3 or 3.5"?

You'll still benefit from a bigger exhaust diameter!

There's still 10 feet of piping. The bigger diameter, the better.

APBS4
11-13-2009, 01:28 PM
You'll still benefit from a bigger exhaust diameter!

There's still 10 feet of piping. The bigger diameter, the better.

not entirely true. the larger it is could cause less backpressure and could also aid in cooling of the exhaust gasses, which is not good. but for the most part if it is set up right the larger diameter could help, however a usual rule of them is to match the diameter to the backside.

blackbenzz
11-13-2009, 01:58 PM
Looks like your water to air intercooler lines are pretty small if you ask me. Nice build so far [up] Is that a Johnson CM30 pump?

Caddy7
11-25-2009, 01:04 PM
Engine is done......rs4 body is done...wiring is done (but not tested),fueling and new fuel lines are done..rs4 radiators and custom water hoses done..BUTmanifolds are not done.
And its not up to me..I am waiting for those since March...

Engine brackets on the chassis is the same....
The b5 suframe bolts onto the 8H chassis . I used the 8h control arms..Only problem is the DTS but I will fix that shortly...


So what more then a motor and a subframe would be needed to swap in a 2.7tt into a B6?

Except for a lot or work... is there a lot of fabrication or is it more a bolt on type of deal?

the dog
11-25-2009, 04:15 PM
The water lines are big.are you confusing the fuel lines with water lines?
Its a Bosch pump...

The drive axle need to be extended if you are keeping the stock rear axle

Turbo Nerd
12-05-2009, 09:15 PM
You'll still benefit from a bigger exhaust diameter!

There's still 10 feet of piping. The bigger diameter, the better.

Yea so true look at hondas with 6 inch exhaust..... those bitches are mooving

sfored
12-06-2009, 10:38 AM
do you have any other options on the rear axle ? solid ones ? still the same dimensions ?

sfored
12-06-2009, 10:41 AM
Hey Dog !
The fans and controller - are those stockers from a B7?



Update

8pistons RS6 brakes.....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/BWLFSgmkKGrHgoH-CcEjlLlyiyvBKb0LZyc.jpg

Fuel....

http://www.sx-performance.com/15404%20(new).jpg

Injectors DEKA 850

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/8279_12.jpg

Oil cooler

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/2f04_12.jpg

Wideband Lambda sensor and logger

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/ssi.jpg

Rs4 intake

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/BWC6ibQ2kKGrHgoH-C0EjlLlu15ZBKVjN6o.jpg

Fans & controller

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/315b_1.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/1487_12.jpg

AWE Drive Train Stabilizer....

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/AWE_dts_kit.jpg

the dog
12-06-2009, 01:34 PM
Yes ..OEM B7 RS4

dougyfresh
12-06-2009, 03:43 PM
So what more then a motor and a subframe would be needed to swap in a 2.7tt into a B6?

Except for a lot or work... is there a lot of fabrication or is it more a bolt on type of deal?

software if you want to run motronic

the dog
01-12-2010, 01:13 AM
Some new phone pictures...

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/10012010088.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/10012010073.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/10012010077.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/10012010078.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/10012010082.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/10012010083.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/10012010075.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/10012010076.jpg

Das General
01-12-2010, 01:58 AM
Downpipe is gonna be a squeeezeee. Also interested to see your IC piping.

Wizard-of-OD
01-14-2010, 07:54 PM
That is a sexy cabby :D

jibberjive
01-14-2010, 10:21 PM
Also interested in seeing what the charge piping is going to look like.

diabolical1
01-17-2010, 02:08 AM
things are coming together, man. keep it up. [:)]

the dog
01-17-2010, 07:40 AM
We manage to squeeze a 3.5 inch Downpipe. We had to make room for it, by cutting a small lower piece of the secondary firewall...

Reich
03-06-2010, 07:26 PM
Hi there.
How is it going with the build? It's been a while since your last post. You'll have special car for sure.

the dog
03-08-2010, 03:32 AM
The exhaust guy is taking a long time to finish... He is curently finishing the pressure pipes but we run into a problem.
I have to change the intercooler because there is no room for the water cooler I bought.
I have to buy a awe fmic for B7 or buy a different water cooler core.

bombermon
03-08-2010, 10:07 PM
So the engine and trans mounts where the same.. I figured the custom intake would cost too much. Where did you get the custom throttle 80mm?

Sales@RAI
03-08-2010, 11:01 PM
the FMICs on the market will probably NOT be good for what you're doing, I would go custom and go big

Wizard-of-OD
03-10-2010, 12:11 AM
The exhaust guy is taking a long time to finish... He is curently finishing the pressure pipes but we run into a problem.
I have to change the intercooler because there is no room for the water cooler I bought.
I have to buy a awe fmic for B7 or buy a different water cooler core.
APR !! :D

the dog
03-16-2010, 01:20 AM
You should talk to Issam (INA)
Car is almost finished .It is now at the body shop . The RS4 back fenders are getting installed.
I would take it for a custom FMIC as soon as it finish
I am currently missing the drive axel (I hope Advanced Automotion can help with this) and I need to replace the crankshaft positioning sensor since I broke it during assembly...

NYEuroTuner
03-16-2010, 01:55 AM
Looks amazing.

Bravo Manga [up]

Kerby
05-06-2010, 04:24 PM
shiiiit

Caddy7
05-24-2010, 05:14 PM
Any updates? please!!!!!!! even a small one

champion
05-24-2010, 06:10 PM
nice

the dog
06-01-2010, 10:48 PM
it should be done in 2 weekss

sfored
06-03-2010, 01:15 AM
I was at Comp Turbo Today ... for a few hours ... they have some NICE things going on...

NYEuroTuner
06-03-2010, 03:00 AM
it should be done in 2 weekss

Bravo. [up]

Rolotuning
06-04-2010, 09:41 PM
Topless nice!!!

colt45
07-08-2010, 02:20 PM
it should be done in 2 weekss

cant wait to see this finished. already looking awesome.

nefkntym
01-12-2012, 01:00 PM
What happened to this?

the dog
01-12-2012, 06:33 PM
I had some issues with the built. Basically I had to redo all the wiring, which I just finish.
I still havent break-in the engine. I did tune it a bit on the dyno before redoing the wiring.
Only 2-3 issues remain to finish it
1. Calibrate the shift knob. For some reason after the JHM short shifter update ,I cannot get the shifter alighted. I tried everything I could think of, watch the videos 1000 times, been throw the service manual but I can not get it to work. To be able to get reverse the shift knob was to be tilt a lot to the right. I tired calling JHM a few times but nobody answers there phones. Are they still in business?
2. Reroute the brake cylinder vacuum pipe since its too close to the downpipe
3. Tune it

Some pics from a motorshow that we took part

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/303853_287493874616363_100000672577861_995382_5138 11109_n.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/378939_287497207949363_100000672577861_995410_1034 362045_n.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/389089_287506351281782_100000672577861_995448_1657 625624_n.jpg

shorterthanrich
01-12-2012, 07:07 PM
What an awesome reply! So glad to see that it's actually still moving forward! You're SO close!

akaEsCo01
01-13-2012, 10:08 AM
Serious business!!! Love this build, Agtronic is definitely making my manifold after seeing the master piece he did for you.

the dog
01-13-2012, 06:12 PM
Btw I update the turbo to a 7879 billet with antisurge compressor cover

the dog
01-29-2012, 11:43 PM
I just finish beding in the engine.
Having a single turbo added a lot of issues (oil leaks and fire!!) but I finaly got aroundf them..

My first impressions of the big (1250hp turbo) single turbo system is thats is lagy. With 3 gear up to 3800-4000 rpm I have 0.5bar

Today (or tomorrow) I will strap it on the dyno for the first face of the tuning. i will be going up to 1.5bar (if the silicone hose of the throttle body doesnt pop free again)

wdbdy2000s4
01-30-2012, 09:28 AM
Can't wait to see some results

the dog
03-04-2012, 01:46 PM
I can't seem to be able to finish the project.
There is always some small or large issue to sort out, before it pops out again...it is getting ridiculous.
Seems like the car wants me to leave it alone in the garage…

I have, for the 4 time, another oil leak from a different location.
Boost is still rising uncontrollable and although it feels awesome, it was be contented. Maybe I got a faulty Tial MVS since I fixed it briefly …
I tried to dyno-tune it but couldn’t because of that. Of course the popping silicone hose at the throttle didn’t help either but I got that sorted ...I was only able to dyno it up to 5500 rpm with the boost control (out of the Adaptronic 1280) off (1 bar springs in the 2 tials) and I got 390whp on a Mustang Dyno. I am not sure on what pressure that was but the Adaptronic 1280 (excellent ecu) was setup with a boost cut at 1.5bar. Of course I had a misfire issue.
I have a vacuum leak and my idle is high. I had to change the coils because I was getting misfires all the time.


The good news is that the Comp Ct43 CT3B billet spools really good for its size. I get full boost by 4400-4500 rpm (3 gear) and with the redline at 8000 rpm I get a good power band. Keep in mind that’s it’s a big , 1250hp , turbo and I am running ported 2.8 heads, oversize valves and 2.8 intake cams (for now). Spool is like a typical BT on a 1.8T 20v/2.0tfsi, and to me ,its impressive.

Also if anyone cares the 3.5 decat downpipe + 2x 3 inch is LOUD. Really loud. On the up side, the sound of the engine is beautiful. I get everyone scared, even dogs… :)

The game plan now is to get the car to a skillful and patient car mechanic so that he can iron out the bugs asap. I really need to tune the car before the 11th . We have a Audi club meeting and I want to take part with my car after 3 years.

the dog
07-30-2013, 06:54 AM
Well...after a lot of troubleshooting and a lot of help from forum member here ( julex , bobsaver, ilyafil, jibberjive,especialy Andy from Adaptronic and others that helped thank you so much for your help),I was able to solve the weird misfire issue. it turned out to be, lick most similar cases, a silly little think.The map sensor was placed on the runner .It was picking up the intake pulse,screwing up the readings,causing a sudden enrichment and change in ignition timing , that cause the issue...
I was able to push the car after that .
Were is Dyno run of a 500whp run...


http://s76.photobucket.com/user/Panicos/media/1049887_649026591791593_905887202_n_zps5b0e343c.mp 4.html

I had Vp Motorsport 109 and Q16 racing fuel to play with. I used only the q16. I added +2 deg of ignition (added a fuel trim value because the q16 was a lamda of 13.35) and the car gain instantly gain 80whp on the same boost.... Q16 rocks.......
I has able to take it to 750whp before the clutch broke...... Funny think is that I didnt even had the chance to take on the road to test it (2 friends took it to test the lunch of the car since we wanted to enter it to a drag event on Sunday....)


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/534856_10151609240944037_291521067_n_zps91d8459e.j pg

Raacerx
07-30-2013, 12:42 PM
Let's see a dyno graph!

the dog
07-30-2013, 06:53 PM
Engine is out again to check the clutch issue.
The clutch plate rubbed on the inside of the pressure plate!!. I dont know why it did that....Eurospec doesnt know ether.
I also found the fitting of bearing bend and damaged. There is some minor damage to the input shaft too....
Any ideas of what the hell happen?

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/20130731_012144_zps35c5bf07.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/20130731_012019_zpse5963e00.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/20130731_011923_zps3c96f5e4.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/20130731_012215_zps48d94de5.jpg


Ps.I will post the dynoplot tomorow

Monty23
09-06-2013, 02:33 PM
Any update on this?

the dog
09-17-2013, 12:50 PM
Yeap....the fault was due to a missing bearing inside the flywheel. It was not send (or maybe misplaced) .That was the reason of all the clutch issues I had so far...
I am ordering a fx850 kit this time around.. Hope this solves the ongoing clutch issues for ever...

I am thinking of making another 2.7T single turbo and install that in the car ,together with a stock ecu and wiring. I have a 2.4 complete motor laying around and I do have a lot of leftover parts from this built (pistons-rods-2.7crank,girdle , intake etc). That would make thinks a lot easier for trouble shooting in the future. The car is constantly down with this setup and its a shame to keep it like that,especially with all the money spend on the rs4 b7 body....I never really enjoyed the car....

If I do this, I will install the 3.0L to an old 1996 Audi A4 quattro and use it for drag racing. That thing weights (as 1.8T 20V quattro) 1250kg...

z00lander
02-18-2014, 02:02 PM
Any updates?

the dog
04-09-2014, 07:53 AM
Not really..Engine is laying on the garage floor for the pass 6 months or so...
I haven't change the clutch ..

I am too busy with my A3 8p Quattro 2.0TFSI big turbo project....

the dog
11-30-2014, 10:42 AM
engine is a lightweight a4 b5 quattro now. made 800.want to push more

the dog
01-25-2015, 07:12 AM
time for an update on the topic.
As i said before i put the engine in a b5 a4 quattro. It was way to powerful for the b7 cabrio. the cabrio is still getting a v6 but with stock size twin turbos.
b5 Car is light and i am doing more to get it to be lighter. now its on the 1240kg mark with a 80kg driver.
we initially tune the engine in a hurry because we wanted to enter a drag event. car made close to 800 whp with 800 wheel nm. We had issues with the new custom catcams. the cam to lifter was way to big (1.2mm bigger), so both duration and lift were smaller. even the timing was wrong by 1 tooth so we did not have vvt to help spool up the turbo.we also have an exhaust leak from the 2 vbands of the exhaust manifolds. this made the car more laggy than normal. Car is reving up to 8500rpm (solid lifter). here is a video of one of the runs.


http://vid76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/20141122_003908_zpsx6lw6end.mp4

I am posting a dyno graf of a 660whp and not the 800 whp one. we had misfires issues with the rs4 b7 coils.
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/SURFACE-PC%20-%20WIN_20141127_091821_zpseyivruep.jpg

as you can see power remains constant at the top end. this shows a restriction somewhere.
i know for a fact that the rs4 b7 intake manifold is small, but i can not find a bigger one. a custom intake will be nice but who will flowbench it to see if the flow is even in each cylinder?
i also know that the overprice exhaust manifold i got are all wrong and too small for the type of power. i installed a backpressure sensor and together with the egt it will give me an idea of what is going on.
I also have a really small turbine housing (.84 ar) . i will change this together with a bigger compressor wheel after the February drag event.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j31/Panicos/SURFACE-PC%20-%20WIN_20141117_135617_zpsm4ryxmko.jpg

Now for the fireworks.
I bought aem smart coils
http://www.aemelectronics.com/sites/default/files/AEM_smart_coil_back_side.jpg
Fixed the cams issues, so 1mm plus lift and more duration
......and intalled a 300whp (354hp) 6 fogger wet nos system.
The system will be controlled proportionally from my 1280 ecu. I design the functions my self and i am exited to test them out.its a 3d map system with different maps for each gear and corrections factor connected to the ecus traction control etc.
my target is to keep tq to the 850Nm wheel mark for as long as i can. from 4200 rpm to redline. i am hoping the backpressure and egt will let me pass the 1000whp mark (mustang aw500 ofcourse) . i hope to make this happen this week. everything was ready to drop the engine in the car, but the reverse gear is not engaging so we are trying to figure it out. wish me luck :)

the dog
04-02-2015, 02:43 AM
Pushing to pass the 1000 whp mark. We are close...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5UN0j2n5AY&feature=youtu.be

Despite what you read, the platform is still alive and it's kicking hard.....

Monty23
04-02-2015, 07:30 AM
Pushing to pass the 1000 whp mark. We are close...
Despite what you read, the platform is still alive and it's kicking hard.....

Says video is private

the dog
04-02-2015, 01:10 PM
now?

landfill
04-02-2015, 10:55 PM
Tight work.

rockcandy
04-03-2015, 06:51 PM
I've kept up on fb, but how did you guys finish off on tuning for the day?

UkuRiSh
04-03-2015, 07:27 PM
sound good [up]

Do you use a girdle ?

diabolical1
04-04-2015, 08:50 PM
wow. you have come a long way, man. congrats on the results so far.

on a sidenote, it sounds like you've got some pretty hot cars there.

the dog
04-05-2015, 02:26 AM
We stopped at 2.1 bars ,no nos. Power remained constant from 5500rpm to redline. Looks like we have a big restriction somewhere.
The ported Rs4 intake manifold is a obvious candidate (read somewhere about a flow of 700cfm at 28) .i still didnt find any flow data about the 2.8 heads (mine is ported)
I am also changing the fmic to a bigger one today.
I will have to boost the engine a lot since the flow is restrictive.
Next dyno (this week) will be at 2.8-3bars with nos.




Ps. i have girdle and update main caps

the dog
09-09-2015, 12:14 AM
still trying to get pass the 1000whp mark...
I am relocating the turbo and changing my efr9180 to something a lot bigger.

Agttronic manifolds are for sale in the sales section.

jibberjive
09-09-2015, 02:03 AM
Ps. i have girdle and update main caps
When you say 'updated main caps', are you saying billet caps?

the dog
09-13-2015, 03:34 AM
Yes. From eurospec

I took the heads out to port them and I found a strange vertical groove on the block exactly where the piston ring gap is. The groove is deep on one cylinder and a barely visible on another 2. Other the engine sucked in a metal material or the piston rings are not gap correctly.
After the machine shop inspected the groove, I was told to run it as it it..

I am making custom manifolds . I need to reduce the ridiculous backpressure issue I was having. At 1.7 bar I had 3.5 bar back pressure ......
I also changed the injectors to bigger ones.
I know that it took a ridiculous amount of time but each revision of the engine, I m getting closer to my target. My target is 1000+whp

Quattro_The_Dog
09-13-2015, 02:43 PM
Keep it up, great work.

landfill
09-13-2015, 11:45 PM
[up]!!!!