bonrath lowering caps

[Bollebus]

hi im seek for bonrath lowering caps 15mm to my B7

here in sweden we not have a dealer for bonrath
and i have mail to germany and english bonrath without answer

so im ask here if someone know where around the world i can by 15mm bonrath lowering caps

Best regards
//Bolle

http://www.bonrath.de/e/lc.htm

[brownishwater]

Huh?

Those don't look like they belong on an Audi.


Sorry for not being helpful.

[Glassnpowder98]

I have definitely never heard of these and have no clue how they would work... It doesn't seem like adding a cap to the top of the spring is going to lower the car. At least that's what it looks like they do from the picture... How do they work?

Sorry for not being helpful as well.

[dirtybrd]

The area that the spring rides on it higher up in the upper saddle.

[Mike@PureMS]

They actually look more like this.
They adjust the lower perch, not the upper perch.
I've personally never seen them available here in the US. I shot the picture at a show in Germany a few years ago.
http://www.purems.com/images/Gallery/Essen03/A4_LoweringPerch.jpg

[brownishwater]

Is that similar to cutting the springs in the sense that its probably not a recommended shortcut?

[Bollebus]

oh u know what its is :)

yeah its hard to get some the makes in germany

but thanks anyway


They actually look more like this.
They adjust the lower perch, not the upper perch.
I've personally never seen them available here in the US. I shot the picture at a show in Germany a few years ago.
http://www.purems.com/images/Gallery/Essen03/A4_LoweringPerch.jpg

[FryXS9]

They work very well! There´s nothing better for getting lower 15mm!

The driving don´t change. And they are legal.

But it´s even hard to get them here in Germany from Bonrath themselves.
I´ve bin waiting since January!

Some guys here use the original caps from the B5 with the VIN 8D0 412 103B-02 and they sayd it also works getting lower 15mm.

[europaisch]

Oh wow I haven't seen these things since I was modding my MKII VW Jetta. I remember them having a popular following for a little bit.

I don't think I would put them on my Audi.

[redlabel81]

I have these from Supersport. Also German with Tuv.
Haven't mounted them yet tho...but know many people that ride with them here without any problems. :)

[Winners Eat Pho]

Sounds like the perfect fix for the ever so slightly higher front than rear on the sport suspension.

[Sonick]

I have them:

Before :

http://www.vwaudi-club.no/members/car_images/1534b7e86891b8548502778571854845.jpg

After :

http://www.vwaudi-club.no/members/car_images/0d8afeab709d85ee3c34aa80c237a4cd.jpg

[Bollebus]

Cool

do u know someone who sale them in norway ?

//Bolle


I have them:

Before :

http://www.vwaudi-club.no/members/car_images/1534b7e86891b8548502778571854845.jpg

After :

http://www.vwaudi-club.no/members/car_images/0d8afeab709d85ee3c34aa80c237a4cd.jpg

[Winners Eat Pho]

that looks great. tell me more.

[casuso]

Sounds great.

Why no one in this forum ever talks about this option isntead of coils or springs?

[redlabel81]

Because it's a easy, cheap route......;)
My plan is to install them and then save me up some $ for coilovers.
I think the Supersports take your car about 15-20mm lower in the front. What do you say Mr.Sonick?
:)

[Winners Eat Pho]

I just want the front gap to be even with the rear. I wonder if that will alter the handling at all?

[Sonick]

The handling don't get any worse - if anything it gets better!

It the cheapest and fastest way to get the car "levered" ( about the same distance from the wheel in front and rear)

You change the lower spring support to one that lets the spring down so that the car will be lower.
On my car i think it become about 25mm lowered. ( its lowers more than 10mm )

( sorry for bad English :) )

[datskat]

I recall putting these on my 16v GTI waaay back in the day but remember nothing about them.

There's no way lowering can be this easy.

[R1NSE]

I have read a bunch of posts from VW forums about people using these with great success and I have even been able to find them for sale on the internet but have not been able to find any for our cars although I did find some for the TT and the A3

[redlabel81]

The one I have are called Supersport SUFT004, Tieferlegungs.

http://www.orange-tuning.de/shop/supersport-audi-lowering-spring-seats-p-16629.html

[speedydragon]

nice. what a great way to utilize the comforts of oem suspension

[Winners Eat Pho]

I'm all over it. Now, back to the original post where world can I get them?

[jmars]

I'm still confused on how these work..........I'm sure they work well just confused, can visualize it.

Love to know more

[shamrok]

Similar to the spring perch being at a lower position on the shock body, the cap relocates the springs so the springs are physically lower that stock in relation to the the chassis. The car is lowered as a result. Voila.

Pretty popular way to lift trucks is to have a shock with higher shock perches than stock or they put metal spacers above the coilover assembly, but below the upper mount (or placed in the coilover themselves). This idea popped up on Audizine a couple times, but everybody laughed at it cuz it's cheap and different, and they really just don't understand the concept.

[shamrok]

Here's a good example....

New cap on left, stock on right.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i313/sxracer001/lowering%20caps/IMG_2607.jpg

[NorcalPB]

The handling don't get any worse - if anything it gets better!

It the cheapest and fastest way to get the car "levered" ( about the same distance from the wheel in front and rear)

You change the lower spring support to one that lets the spring down so that the car will be lower.
On my car i think it become about 25mm lowered. ( its lowers more than 10mm )

( sorry for bad English :) )

So did you just put the caps on the front of your car?

[da_vi_man]

so need to take out the shock and spring to install them?? still sort of confused here..

[redlabel81]

^^ yes you do and these are only for the front.

[redlabel81]

I'm all over it. Now, back to the original post where world can I get them?

You get them here:
http://www.orange-tuning.de/shop/supersport-audi-tieferlegungsfederteller-p-16629.html

But I am not sure if they will send to the US of A........Send them an email.

[FryXS9]

U change them, the sit is deeper and so you get lower. Without loosing oem driving. You have to get out the coilover and then the spring. The cap is not firmly attached only a nose (cant describe it better) ensure the correct seat.

http://www.a4-freunde.com/forum/action,dlattach/topic,68930.0/attach,61435&image/

[R1NSE]

^^ yes you do and these are only for the front.

only for the front?? don't you need to lower both??

[FryXS9]

^No you don´t. Lowering caps are only for the front.

[CBRmatt600]

You can get them here and probably read it a little better......

http://www.orange-tuning.de/shop/supersport-audi-lowering-spring-seats-p-16629.html

[jmars]

Thanks Shamrok......the lifted truck example nailed it for me

[Mike@PureMS]

Has anyone tried using the lower spring perch from a B5? They're also about 10mm lower than the B6/B7 lower perch. I'm pretty sure they'll work, and would be a much easier to obtain option for lowering the front a tiny bit.

[shamrok]

Speaking of lower perches, do any aftermarket shocks have adjustable perches?

As for the B5 perches, you have any lying around? I might give it a shot.

[Bollebus]

someone here who are good for germany ?

i wonder how much them lowering

//Bolle




You can get them here and probably read it a little better......

http://www.orange-tuning.de/shop/supersport-audi-lowering-spring-seats-p-16629.html

[redlabel81]

Supersport says 10-20mm but people like Geir says it's more like 25mm....

[FryXS9]

Supersport says 10-20mm but people like Geir says it's more like 25mm....

Maybe if you forget to install the distance ring. But 15mm is maximum lowering.
With 25mm you risk to loose the suspense of the spring.


A some people here in germany use b5 caps and say it works fine.

[Sonick]

Maybe if you forget to install the distance ring. But 15mm is maximum lowering.
With 25mm you risk to loose the suspense of the spring.


A some people here in germany use b5 caps and say it works fine.


I did not forget to install any parts.

If i measure the original and the lowering cap it will get about 25 mm lowered.

[redlabel81]

^^ What does the kit include? Just the caps or is it more?

[MrB]

I did not forget to install any parts.

If i measure the original and the lowering cap it will get about 25 mm lowered.
ok and did you use this ?
http://www.orange-tuning.de/shop/supersport-audi-lowering-spring-seats-p-16629.html
or were did you get it ?

[FryXS9]

I did not forget to install any parts.

If i measure the original and the lowering cap it will get about 25 mm lowered.

That´s pretty much.

The bonrath set includes distance rings, the caps and an instruction.
But the supersport content I don´t know.

Here a picture from installing the b5 caps on a b7:
The car get´s 12mm lower

http://www.audi4ever.at/fdb/pics/4789_a098c1411170881059393fcb6e0ace43.jpg

http://www.audi4ever.at/fdb/pics/4789_fa8f61ba779c054c66c6a47e32ad93a8.jpg

http://www.audi4ever.at/fdb/pics/4789_20f914bc59c70923e57c510a0c599deb.jpg

[FinPiider]

I have bonrath lowering caps on stock sport shocks and -35mm. springs around the car. I think it is a great way to get your car leveled without coilovers. Here's the result:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/kuikki/Autojupinoita/pic004.jpg

[praudi]

shit why do we hear about this now so simple

[redlabel81]

I have bonrath lowering caps on stock sport shocks and -35mm. springs around the car. I think it is a great way to get your car leveled without coilovers. Here's the result:

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/kuikki/Autojupinoita/pic004.jpg


Nice looking car my good neighbour :) What springs are you running?

[Winners Eat Pho]

How in the us?![=(]

[FinPiider]

Nice looking car my good neighbour :) What springs are you running?


Thanks! and congrats on winning the ESC!

I have Weitec springs. Would have gone with H&R or Eibach, but unfortunately they did not have a set with 35mm lowering...

[datskat]

Where to be buying please

[Sonick]

I have bonrath lowering caps on stock sport shocks and -35mm. springs around the car. I think it is a great way to get your car leveled without coilovers. Here's the result:




What make are your springs ?

[FryXS9]

How in the us?![=(]

It seems they´re not available in any onlineshop in the us [confused]

I guess there´s a new market...[up]

[redlabel81]

What make are your springs ?


He's running on Weitec springs.

[Winners Eat Pho]

Yea - you guys should order a bunch, ship to the US for us. Make some $$ or whatever you call it :)

[redlabel81]

We trade in Goats....

[g_svan]

^^ -lol-

[redlabel81]

But seriously....If we could get a hold of a bunch of these we could try to get them to the States somehow.
How are the import\tax laws over there? Is there a limit on how much you can buy from abroad before you have to pay importtaxes?

[redlabel81]

I can have 10 Supersport lowering caps shipped to a address in America for about 1500$
Thats incl shipping from the UK to me and than from me to America.
So if anyone wants to be the middelman let me know :)

[myltsi]

That´s pretty much.

The bonrath set includes distance rings, the caps and an instruction.
But the supersport content I don´t know.

Here a picture from installing the b5 caps on a b7:
The car get´s 12mm lower



Doesn't anybody know what that supersport kit includes?

[datskat]

I can have 10 Supersport lowering caps shipped to a address in America for about 1500$
Thats incl shipping from the UK to me and than from me to America.
So if anyone wants to be the middelman let me know :)

This is $150/set for both caps (front only)?

What is the difference between the standard ones and the Supersport ones?

[FryXS9]

Supersport caps cost 65,- $ in Germany. But they´re like the Bonrath caps not available at this moment.

Edit:

I called the dealer today and he said both (bonrath and supersport) have problems with the manufacturer of the caps.

In the mid of June he said is the next delivery expected.

[redlabel81]

With shipping\ taxes and a little work money that's the price I can arrange.
If you want to shit all over it you can drive them to the States. :)

[clemsongt]

So using this part number 8D0 412 103 B (Item 6) for the B5 strut cap I found this breakdown (here (http://www.genuinevwaudiparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214407&chapter=&Sectionids=19,2512&groupid=52166&subgroupid=3572&componentid=2887&make=2&model=A4&year=1997&graphicID=1396155&callout=6&catalogid=2&displayCatalogid=0)):

1) Strut Back 2) W/o quattro Manual trans Back 3) W/o sport susp W/o sport susp Back
4) Boot Back 5) Upper Upper Back 6) Lower Lower Back 7) Cap Back 8) Mount Back
http://www.genuinevwaudiparts.com/schematics/1/1396155.gif

What all would one need? I assume one would need the upper and lower caps from the B5, right?

That might be a more viable option than some of the other things floating around...thoughts?

[FryXS9]

^You need only number 6 on your picture from the b5 to get lower about 10 to 15mm. This should work too.

@redlabel: I think your price is ok. For the cupra lip you have to pay here 35$ @seat and in the states over 100$.

[redlabel81]

:) Just putting it out there as an option for the US. If they can use the b5 caps thats great. Sounds like they lower a little less then the Supersports.

[massboykie]

Where to be buying please

Looks like Rapid parts has them

http://www.planetvag.com/index.asp?cx=012156091956291930880%3Aruzrougslcc&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=lowering+caps+bonrath#1684

Cheers
Massboykie

[Dangler]

Man these things bring back memories...they were very popular in the vw scene.

[Jack Burton]

This looks like a pretty good deal to me. I like the ride height on the rear of my car but the front is easly an inch or more taller. It looks like shit.

[redlabel81]

Just installed my Supersport lowering caps.
Made the car about 25mm lower in the front. I have OEM sport suspension.
This is her now:
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm333/redlabel81/P1000100edit.jpg
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm333/redlabel81/P1000103edit.jpg

[clemsongt]

Just installed my Supersport lowering caps.
Made the car about 25mm lower in the front. I have OEM sport suspension.


What all was involved in replacing them?

[whitevdub]

so the b5 lowering caps, item #6 up would work on a b7 a4 and would lower it approximately 10-15mm? if somebody can let me know the details, very interested in getting these asap. where would i be able to buy them by the way?

http://www.genuinevwaudiparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214407&chapter=&Sectionids=19,2512&groupid=52166&subgroupid=3572&componentid=2887&make=2&model=A4&year=1997&graphicID=1396155&callout=6&catalogid=2&displayCatalogid=0

would i just order the lower back?

[maka]

bump, like this idea.

[redlabel81]

Front suspension had to be removed and the spring caps changed to the Supersports.
I am not sure about the B5 caps, but I am sure they work the same way. Just lowers less then the Supersports.

[whitevdub]

bump, any more input would be great on the b5 caps

[clemsongt]

Front suspension had to be removed and the spring caps changed to the Supersports.
I am not sure about the B5 caps, but I am sure they work the same way. Just lowers less then the Supersports.

Did you have an upper and a lower cap from Supersports for each side?

I have read that you only need the lower cap from a B5, but it seems like that would be wrong. I wouldn't want to change the effect of the spring and if you lower one end of a spring and not the other, the spring would be less compressed under normal load. The impression I get from doing this change is that you are mostly sliding the spring down relative to the strut.

[Affliction25]

I really wish there was a way to get the Super Sports and or Bonrath caps to the US. I would put my stock springs back in and use the caps.

[FryXS9]

bump, any more input would be great on the b5 caps

Part Number: 8D0 412 103 B

http://www.audi4ever.at/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=1294

Pictures of install at post #44.

The result may vary, depends on engine (weigth). 10 to 15mm is possible maybe a bit more.
It works only for the front suspension not in the rear.


Did you have an upper and a lower cap from Supersports for each side?

I have read that you only need the lower cap from a B5, but it seems like that would be wrong. I wouldn't want to change the effect of the spring and if you lower one end of a spring and not the other, the spring would be less compressed under normal load. The impression I get from doing this change is that you are mostly sliding the spring down relative to the strut.

Your guess is right but not completly. The compression is still enough.

[nsavani]

would lowering caps for the a4 work on a b7 s4?

[whitevdub]

Thanks a lot..are you using b5 caps? How much do you think it'll lower a b7?

[FryXS9]

Hey,

no I don´t use them. But some people I know from german forums do.

They all say it works fine and lowers about minimum 10 up to 20mm, it depends.

[whitevdub]

So approximately half an inch?

[FryXS9]

Yes.

[redlabel81]

I see on my papers on the Supersports caps that is is the same caps for B5 B6 and B7 so using stock B5 caps should be fine :)

[whitevdub]

aright sounds sick. im definitely going to try this, because i need to lower the front so its level with the back. its been pissing me off for so long

[Shaboink]

Would it make a difference if it was a B5 A4 or S4?

[yettavr6]

I'm ordering these now. If someone could do a writeup that would be cool. I'm sure it's pretty much self explanatory once the wheel is off, but it would be good to know what tools i'll need before that point.

[daveman]

Subscribed. i want some of these in the US.

[FryXS9]

It´s like you want to change the springs.
Using a ramp is good, using a lift would be better.

You have to remove the suspension in the front (left and right).

Then you have to span the spring an remove the upper cap, remove the spring and then you can change the lower cap. It fit only with a nose, there´s no screw or something. Be careful with the direction of the caps!

It´s not very hard but previous experience is important. This is only a grossly instruction.



I´m in holiday and don´t know wether the cap from the a4 is the same like that from the s4. But I guess there´s no difference.

[clemsongt]

I'm ordering these now. If someone could do a writeup that would be cool. I'm sure it's pretty much self explanatory once the wheel is off, but it would be good to know what tools i'll need before that point.

I would imagine it's like Fry said. Take of the coilovers you have. Span the spring, remove the lower cup and replace with the new one. Put everything back as it was before.

If you do do it though, it'd be awesome if you could do the DIY. You could just take pictures of each step and the difference it makes in the end.

Two things I'd be curious to know:
1) How much of a height difference is there between the top of the tire and bottom of the fender lip.
2) How much of a height difference is there between the bottom of the front bumper and the ground.

[Sh4wn]

Wait a minute, so where can I buy these in Canada?! lol!

[maka]

Wait a minute, so where can I buy these in Canada?! lol!

^what he said

[Shaboink]

Just throwing this out here. What about the B8 caps? Would those fit and make a difference?

[maka]

whitevdub please keep us updates. i would buy you a box of muffins and ship them to you if this works out.

[FryXS9]

Just throwing this out here. What about the B8 caps? Would those fit and make a difference?

I couldn´t imagine that this would work.

Here some pics from someone who build in the b5 caps:

http://www.audi4ever.at/fdb/pics/4789_a098c1411170881059393fcb6e0ace43.jpg

http://www.audi4ever.at/fdb/pics/4789_eaee7dc019edae0ca16900fd37f90033.jpg

[Shaboink]

Another question.. Why don't we have some made? Get in on a group buy and have them produced.

[FryXS9]

^I don´t know. We have here 2 aftermarket manufacturer for the caps but both can´t deliver since January.

[Shaboink]

^I don´t know. We have here 2 aftermarket manufacturer for the caps but both can´t deliver since January.

I meant find another manufacturer. Since neither of these companies can provide us with the product we want. We should have them fabricated.. Easier said then done I know.

[Koks]

I couldn´t imagine that this would work.

Here some pics from someone who build in the b5 caps:



Do you have the picture of the shock w/o the cap.
I am interested how the cap is fastened on the shock. Is there any stopper ring or so?

Sorry for not good English[:d]

[clemsongt]

Do you have the picture of the shock w/o the cap.
I am interested how the cap is fastened on the shock. Is there any stopper ring or so?

Sorry for not good English[:d]

Don't have a picture, but it looks like it is just slid on and a 'key' keeps it from rotating. I would have to think that the compressive force from the spring keeps it from moving in the other direction.

HTH

[FryXS9]

^right. There´s nothing else but this nose under the cap wich I marked, for the right fit. It holds by the pressure of the spring.

http://www.audi4ever.at/fdb/pics/1446_164ec635f40891ac310d2f04543e1bed.jpg

[Shaboink]

Does anyone with this done already have a before and after?

Edit: I forgot about the one on the first page.

[Sh4wn]

I want this so bad... should be getting my b7 this week and the first thing I had planned for it is a drop!

Worst thing is that cap looks pretty simple in design... someone who would have the right contacts could make money producing these in the states!

Edit: If I read this whole thing correctly a b5 cap would help lower the front suspension, but arround 10-15mm instead of 20-25mm for the aftermaket caps right?

[maka]

I'm basically trying to get my fronts to match my rear. if this or the b5 caps work i'll be super duper happy

[FryXS9]

I want this so bad... should be getting my b7 this week and the first thing I had planned for it is a drop!

Worst thing is that cap looks pretty simple in design... someone who would have the right contacts could make money producing these in the states!

Edit: If I read this whole thing correctly a b5 cap would help lower the front suspension, but arround 10-15mm instead of 20-25mm for the aftermaket caps right?

You´re right. The only problem is that the result varies. Doesn´t matter ether aftermarket or b5 caps. The one get 10mm with b5 the other maybe 20mm.

[Sh4wn]

So the B5 caps we are talking about are actually just stock B5 caps I could get at the dealer which should be available at the dealer either in USA or Canada?

[maka]

You´re right. The only problem is that the result varies. Doesn´t matter ether aftermarket or b5 caps. The one get 10mm with b5 the other maybe 20mm.

do you mean that one spring would get 10mm and the other side would get 20?

[casuso]

So the B5 caps we are talking about are actually just stock B5 caps I could get at the dealer which should be available at the dealer either in USA or Canada?

I am also waiting for someone to put this B5 caps on and confirm the results. I would realy like to get only 10mm and this may be the option.

[TurbousMaximus]

Yeah id like to see the b5 caps on.

Hey, send me some sline seats from mexico? :)

[Koks]

Don't have a picture, but it looks like it is just slid on and a 'key' keeps it from rotating. I would have to think that the compressive force from the spring keeps it from moving in the other direction.

HTH

the Idea is to understand do we able to move this support for the cap a bit lower. in this case we do not need to buy anything.
But now as I understand from the pic the support for the cap is the unit with the shock body.

[casuso]

Yeah id like to see the b5 caps on.

Hey, send me some sline seats from mexico? :)

I know, it's strange how audi decides the different features around the world. Can you explain that I have sport seats but with a 1.8T, and no sline bumper?

[TurbousMaximus]

Ill find you an s-line bumper and you find me seats lol

[whitevdub]

I'm still debating about whether I should do this or not..I'm not sure where the best place to order them would be either

[Sh4wn]

Seems like there is no place to order them, but it would apear to be a good upgrade for the money!

[clemsongt]

I'm still debating about whether I should do this or not..I'm not sure where the best place to order them would be either

If you are referring to the B5 caps, the part number is 8D0-412-103-B.
Genuine Audi (http://www.genuinevwaudiparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214407&chapter=&Sectionids=19,2512&groupid=52166&subgroupid=3572&componentid=2887&make=2&model=A4&year=1997&graphicID=1396155&callout=6&catalogid=2&displayCatalogid=0)

World Impex (http://www.worldimpex.com/parts/genuine-part-spring-seat_81955.html)

[FryXS9]

do you mean that one spring would get 10mm and the other side would get 20?

No, no difference from one spring to the other, from car to car I mean.

[Sh4wn]

THis is the first thing I will be doing the my new b7... I'll post pics as soon as I install the B5 caps!

Now if only audi could find me an s-line Ibis white [headbang]

[FryXS9]

Here now before and after pics (lowered with b5 caps) from a B7 Avant:

Before:

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/FryXS9/before.jpg?t=1248625424


After:

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/FryXS9/after.jpg?t=1248625448

New try [;)]

[Sonick]

The picture does not show unless you are member on that forum.

[Shaboink]

Here now before and after pics (lowered with b5 caps) from a B7 Avant:

Before:

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/FryXS9/before.jpg?t=1248625424


After:

http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww206/FryXS9/after.jpg?t=1248625448

New try [;)]


What suspension are you running?

[FryXS9]

^it´s S Line Suspension but not my car.

[Shaboink]

It's settled I am definitely doing this

[clemsongt]

It's settled I am definitely doing this

Awesome. Do a write up. Take note of height difference at the tires and at bumper if you can. Take lots of pics...you know how AZ likes pics [:D].

[casuso]

It's settled I am definitely doing this

Please post pics.
This is going to settle de eibach springs exactly where I want to.

[Shaboink]

Oh I will. [cool] Now just to get a pair of the caps. Anyone want to donate a pair?

[daveman]

Bump!

Did anybody actually get a pair of these?

[geminimech]

Would this guy in Sweden still be interested in doing this "group buy"? How the hell do we get these things here.....

I want to even out my sport suspension, reverse rake FTL.

[back2chitown]

hmmm.................
subscribed.

[Koby]

This just got interesting...

[Shaboink]

I've got a set of the B5 ones sitting in my garage. I just need the time to get them done.

[Sh4wn]

How much did they cost? The b5 caps

[geminimech]

I've got a set of the B5 ones sitting in my garage. I just need the time to get them done.

Want to sell 'em? [;)] I'll gladly take them off your hands....

[Koby]

They're $35 new, how much cheaper do you need them?

[pw211]

bump for anyone having done this with the B5 caps...

[geminimech]

I will gladly pay more than 35 bucks if I could find them. Can you just buy them from Audi?

[clemsongt]

I will gladly pay more than 35 bucks if I could find them. Can you just buy them from Audi?

You can buy the B5 caps from Audi dealerships, yes. You can't buy any aftermarket ones from Audi, no.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4007900&postcount=114

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3775476&postcount=63

Both of these posts are from earlier in this very thread...

[geminimech]

You can buy the B5 caps from Audi dealerships, yes. You can't buy any aftermarket ones from Audi, no.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4007900&postcount=114

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3775476&postcount=63

Both of these posts are from earlier in this very thread...


Thanks, obviously must have glossed over it. [up]

[Sh4wn]

Just to keep you guys posted, I ordered the B5 caps from audi, will get them tuesday

Part number is 8D0 412 103 B... 70$ each though

Will post pics when installed

[Shaboink]

Just to keep you guys posted, I ordered the B5 caps from audi, will get them tuesday

Part number is 8D0 412 103 B... 70$ each though

Will post pics when installed

Wow.. You got ripped off [down]. I got mine off a junked B5, $20 for both.

Now I just need to finish moving and put them on.

[back2chitown]

Anyone in IL know where to get these cheap, as in less than these prices I found? I contacted my friendly neighborhood stealers (in IL) and found the following prices for one of these B5 "plates", as the dealer refers to them:

105.61
63.67
76.16
89.25
89.00
No one has them in stock but can have them by Monday/ Tuesday

Cheapest is @ www.genuinevwaudiparts.com for 35.70 each. I think I'm gonna order from them and just wait. This is the only reason why I tried to get them locally-I hate waiting...

[back2chitown]

ordered mine today from genuinevwaudi.com

Front suspension, Struts and components, Spring seat, Lower, Lower Back $0.00 $71.40
Sub Total: $71.40
Tax $0.00
Shipping $7.50
Total: $78.90

THIS PRICE IS FOR BOTH!

Does my alignment need to be checked after installing these?

[massboykie]

ordered mine today from genuinevwaudi.com
... $71.40


Thanks! Damn their prices are pretty good! I thought these guys were the cheapest... http://audi.bernardiparts.com/ looks like I need to compare next tiem I order stuff... [:D]

Cheers
Massboykie

[daveman]

Anyone got these on yet?

Pics or it didn't happen etc

[back2chitown]

mine are on the way according to the folks at genuinevwaudi.com .

I got a tracking number today. I'm hoping to throw these on this weekend if
I don't go to Midwest Treffen...

Sorry to ask again but will I need an alignment after installing these things?

[virgsa4]

So this in no way affects the shock travel?

[Shaboink]

I just moved into my new place and haven't unpacked my tools.. Trust me I'm itching to do this.

[back2chitown]

still waiting to receive these things.

I'm probably just gonna pay to get this done because I checked the tracking and it's still in CA...

[tankdeer]

Hey guys, new here. Just got our B7 Avant a week ago. A question for those of you buying these caps (either B5 or aftermarket). Are you installing these in addition to lowering springs just to even out the front, or using them on the stock springs?

I definitely don't like how the nose is higher on our car, but I'm trying to decide if we should get these guys or just a nice set of lowering springs. We don't have the cash for a full set of coilovers and the car is not going to be driven too hard, it's the wife's daily, but we both want it a little lower. :)

Thanks, and sorry for the partial hijack!

Cheers! [cool]

[back2chitown]

Hey guys, new here. Just got our B7 Avant a week ago. A question for those of you buying these caps (either B5 or aftermarket). Are you installing these in addition to lowering springs just to even out the front, or using them on the stock springs?

I definitely don't like how the nose is higher on our car, but I'm trying to decide if we should get these guys or just a nice set of lowering springs. We don't have the cash for a full set of coilovers and the car is not going to be driven too hard, it's the wife's daily, but we both want it a little lower. :)

Thanks, and sorry for the partial hijack!

Cheers! [cool]


I'm installing them without lowering springs. The lowering springs significantly lower the car in all 4 corners, while these caps lower just the front of the car between 10- 25 mm.

This is my daily driver and I'm 37 so I don't need a scraper.

[tankdeer]

Thanks. After looking around a bit, it seems that a lot of the lowering spring kits drop the car evenly at all 4 corners. The Eibach Pro kit for instance was 1.2" all around. So even then one would probably want to add a set of these caps to the front to get it evened out.

[supertob]

I know that some guys here in sweden has added lowering springs only in the front. I have only seen this in pictures but it seems to work out just fine.

[Kerby]

I think the way to go here is some lowering springs and some B5 caps, bonrath would be better but unavailable.

This whole set-up is about $300, about $1,000 less than some good coilovers. I'm doing this until I can get coils, I like the comfort of my OEM, also will couple this with spacers and RS4 sway bar.

[tankdeer]

^^ Thats what I was thinking. For those who have done it, how is the ride on OEM (non sport suspension) struts and lowering springs? Still looking for a fairly comfy ride.

[back2chitown]

forgot to mention-I have the oem sport suspension so I'm lower than some of you
guys with the 4 x 4 lift-hahahaha.

If we didn't have snow in the winter here I'd go lower w/ sport springs to go just a touch lower.

What springs besides the Hn R sport springs will lower me so that 18s will the fenders?

[FryXS9]

So this in no way affects the shock travel?

No it doesnt. That´s another positive effect. Whether B5 caps or Bonrath doesn´t matter.
I ordered Bonrath caps in January and I´m still waiting. But I don´t need them anymore.

Provided I get them someday I would send them to one luckily over sea who wants them for some bucks [wrench]

[daveman]

bump for b5 caps installed pics

[clemsongt]

bump for b5 caps installed pics

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3764002&postcount=44
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4000780&postcount=94
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4013325&postcount=117

There are pictures out there...

Bump for someone to do the install and make a DIY...

**cough Shaboink cough**

And the info that I would like to know is not only the height difference at the front fender, but also the height difference at the front bumper. I'm curious how much that will be lowered as it should lower the front bumper more than the fender.

[tankdeer]

Just ordered a set of the B5 caps the other day. Probably be a couple weeks before I get a chance to install them. Gotta buy a spring compressor too while I'm at it. I'll try and remember to take lots of pics and write up a DIY, although I know there is one for a spring install on our cars already and I can't imagine it would be much different.

[europaisch]

This option is increasingly interesting to me. My front sits a little above my rear with my Eibachs. I'd love to drop the front 10mm.

But the degree of varying drop scares me. 10-25mm?. 25mm is an entire inch! I just want a little under a half-inch drop, about 10mm.

Does this bother anyone else; not knowing how much drop you'll get? Is there a growing or accurate consensus on the actual drop?

[whitevdub]

This option is increasingly interesting to me. My front sits a little above my rear with my Eibachs. I'd love to drop the front 10mm.

But the degree of varying drop scares me. 10-25mm?. 25mm is an entire inch! I just want a little under a half-inch drop, about 10mm.

Does this bother anyone else; not knowing how much drop you'll get? Is there a growing or accurate consensus on the actual drop?

im with you on this...i just want a half an inch or a little less, if it can be confirmed then i'd definitely be in

[Koby]

This option is increasingly interesting to me. My front sits a little above my rear with my Eibachs. I'd love to drop the front 10mm.

But the degree of varying drop scares me. 10-25mm?. 25mm is an entire inch! I just want a little under a half-inch drop, about 10mm.

Does this bother anyone else; not knowing how much drop you'll get? Is there a growing or accurate consensus on the actual drop?

It doesn't vary, there are two separate products discussed in this thread; the Bonrath caps which lower 25mm and the B5 caps which lower 10mm.

[clemsongt]

It doesn't vary, there are two separate products discussed in this thread; the Bonrath caps which lower 25mm and the B5 caps which lower 10mm.


I'm installing them without lowering springs. The lowering springs significantly lower the car in all 4 corners, while these caps lower just the front of the car between 10- 25 mm.

This is my daily driver and I'm 37 so I don't need a scraper.

Just a few posts up, someone says the B5 caps lower the car from 10-25 mm. He hasn't done it himself, and I can't speak for him, but I bet he has read that from other posts in this thread - I know I have.

I highly doubt there is much variance, if there was then there would be that much variance on every single B5 setup. I think it is mostly just different measuring methods.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3764002&postcount=44

That post probably is the most accurate. I would think most situations will be about like that - 12 mm.

[europaisch]

Clemsongt, after doing some re-reading I came to that conclusion too. 25mm range on the Bonraths. 10-15 on the B5 caps. Thanks for the clarification.

One thing to consider for people who have not lowered their cars (and don't have the resources at home or friends to do it themselves): Having these installed at shop will set you back in labor as much as having your half of your suspension/alignment done. Because you still have to yank everything out, reinstall it and realign.

While you're under there it may be worth it to pop some suspension in as well.

(Just a thought. I've done my suspension. Do I want to pay for labor again for that extra drop?)

[clemsongt]

Shaboink, when are you getting around to installing and doing a write up?

[Shaboink]

Shaboink, when are you getting around to installing and doing a write up?

I wish I had the time right now, with work and school my car can't be out of service for more than a few hours. As well as I left alot of my tools back in Vegas so I'm screwed. If anyone in the L.A. area who knows a shop who can do this install super quick and align it as well please pitch in.

[tgt]

ttt

Considering this myself in short order. The install is straight forward enough (it seems). I will document/take pics if I get to this prior to someone else.

-tgt

[supertob]

Any b5 cap installs yet? Pics?

[Koby]

Updates? I'm starting to zero in on my suspension solution- simple OEM sport w/B5 caps in the front. Just need to see pics of this setup and I'll be on my way.....

[europaisch]

I ordered and received my B5 caps. I'm going to put them on.

I just need to find the time and money. (Gotta realign afterward)

[tankdeer]

I too have a set of the B5 caps sitting in my house. But they are going to be combined with a set of Eibach Pro kit springs which have yet to arrive.

[oc-drop]

I need em! measured f/b floor to fender:

f: 25-1/2"
r: 25-1/8"

B7 3.2 S-Line (stock 18s) w/ H&R Sport springs only

so those caps will make the front drop perfect with maybe .5mm lower than the rear

[Koby]

^ Yes, I totally agree. If the B5 cap really does drop it 1/2" you should have the perfect rake with the front just a c-hair lower than the rear.

[europaisch]

Tankdeer, that's the setup I'm putting the B5 caps on too. The Eibach front spring is a smidge too high for my tastes (needs).

OC Drop .5mm is pretty small. [;)]

[tankdeer]

Tankdeer, that's the setup I'm putting the B5 caps on too. The Eibach front spring is a smidge too high for my tastes (needs).
That's what I read and what prompted my decision to do the caps+springs.

[Dotte]

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/audi99.JPG


A picture of my car with B5 cap installed. These caps lowered my car 15-17mm at the front.

[clemsongt]

A picture of my car with B5 cap installed. These caps lowered my car 15-17mm at the front.

What do you mean 'at the front'? Do you mean at the fender above the tire, or do you mean at the very front of the bumper. I'd be interested to know how much of a difference it makes for clearance issues.

[tankdeer]

At the front of the car. The B5 caps are for the front wheels only

[Dotte]

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/audi100.JPG

I mean at the fender above the tire. See the blue line.

[daveman]

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/audi100.JPG

I mean at the fender above the tire. See the blue line.

Is that on OEM sport suspension? Can you post a pic straight on at the side?

[Koby]

It's definitely the OEM sport. The car doesn't look dumped (because it's not) but notice how the front no longer has more fender gap than the rear. That's the key. I'd still like to see a few more pics, but it appears that this 1/2"/12mm is just enough to even things out.

[FryXS9]

bump. no one done yet [confused]

[europaisch]

I will be putting mine in within the next two weeks. I'll be sure to take pictures.

[tankdeer]

I'm waiting on my back ordered Avant specific Eibach springs to arrive. Been pushed back to December. :(

Seems just about everywhere is out of them too.

[clemsongt]

I will be putting mine in within the next two weeks. I'll be sure to take pictures.

Just remember to take lots of measurements too. We have so many different numbers in here that a standard would be good.

From ground to top of fender arch - before and after
From ground to bottom of bumper - before and after

[europaisch]

I will take measurements. However I am at a disadvantage in terms of helping develop a standard for this thread...

My car is in the shop, fender bender. So while it's on a lift I figured I'd have the caps installed. But I did not get a chance to take measurements before it was towed to my guy's shop.

Also, if I understand it correctly simply measuring from the ground up is not a fool-proof science itself. There are many other variables that can affect those end numbers: Air pressure, outside temperature, tire/wheel size, ground contour/shape/angle, human error, etc.

I know people want exact measurements. I won't be able to provide that. But I will be able to show some before and after shots.

[arokdl]

I'm also on eibach pro's with the b5 caps sitting at the house. Why are we so lazy? I'll definetly get some measurements when I get around to the install...........

[A4A4A4]

Bump! Let's see some more install pics of these things.

So, do you guys think these will put any extra stress on the shocks just like when you install lowering springs on OEM shocks? Or do you think an alignment will be necessary after these things go on?

I'm starting to get excited about these, I think this could be a breakthrough in the Audi modding world. I know a ton of people (myself included) would love to get rid of that reverse rake on the sport suspension without having to lower my rear.

[A4addict]

I talked to an owner of a very nice, fixed up A6 in Lakewood with these lowering caps.

[daveman]

Ordered the B5 caps just now. Will post up pics and measurements when they're on!

[Huli467]

Ordered the B5 caps just now. Will post up pics and measurements when they're on!

Daveman - can you share where you picked the caps up from? Interested in this for my Avant. Thanks.

[daveman]

Daveman - can you share where you picked the caps up from? Interested in this for my Avant. Thanks.

FYI as we lost my last reply..

genuinevwaudiparts (http://www.genuinevwaudiparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214407&chapter=&Sectionids=19,2512&groupid=52166&subgroupid=3572&componentid=2887&make=2&model=A4&year=1997&graphicID=1396155&callout=6&catalogid=2&displayCatalogid=0)

[daveman]

I may have sourced a set of the bonrath ones, but for a B5.. supposedly lowers the B5 15mm (~0.5"). You think these are the same ones?

If so I will go for them instead..

http://www.tkdynamic-tuning.hu/dl/rieger/705-705_Bonrath_Fahrwerk.pdf

anyone make sense of that? 9030s are the ones for us?

[FryXS9]

^Yes Sir. 9030s are the right one. If you get them. I´m waiting since January.

[tgt]

I may have sourced a set of the bonrath ones, but for a B5.. supposedly lowers the B5 15mm (~0.5"). You think these are the same ones?

If so I will go for them instead..

http://www.tkdynamic-tuning.hu/dl/rieger/705-705_Bonrath_Fahrwerk.pdf

anyone make sense of that? 9030s are the ones for us?

Potentially interested as well daveman, if your source comes through and you care to share.

Thx,
tgt

[Huli467]

Daveman - Any updates or pics to show off your new front stance?

[europaisch]

A small update: I haven't had my car for a couple months due to an accident. While the car was in the shop I had my guy (http://www.eastcountyeuro.com) throw on the B5 caps.

Because of the accident I was not able to measure before for an accurate drop range. However I can report that the B5 caps lower the front of the car a good 1/2 inch. (If not a few mm more.) My car has Eibach springs (avant specific). Before the B5 caps I had a generous 2 finger gap up front. Now I have a tight 1 finger gap.

I snapped some pics the night I got it home. Unfortunately the light is bad and the wheels are turned.

Hopefully this helps those of you who are considering this mod. I give it a thumbs up and the car definitely looks and feels lower.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h157/grouchfactorzero/IMG_0094-1.jpg

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h157/grouchfactorzero/IMG_0093.jpg

[RedS-line]

bump for more pics on this as well as a DIY. is this a hard install? are these the only way to drop the front more than the rear without going to coilovers?

[audimeister]

Here's a crappy phone pic of my car with oem B5 caps on sport suspension:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4327809122_559a5bd514_o.jpg

[mattro]

I have a B6 with the sport suspension ready to go on (with the 2002 sport springs)
and i also happened to have a b5 A4 and still have my stock suspension.

So here's the deal.... I measured the setup on the shock itself, so I wouldn't get false reading from fender to ground due to uneven terrain and all that jazz.

with the b5 caps, the spring will sit pretty much exactly 5/8" lower on the shock than with the stock b6/b7 sport suspension caps.
so no matter how you measure it, it should always be 5/8" lower if you're using the same springs you had.

I'll take pics tonight showing both shocks side by side with the b5 and the stock cap installed etc..

[Koby]

Here's a crappy phone pic of my car with oem B5 caps on sport suspension:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/4327809122_559a5bd514_o.jpg

Hmmm, looks good. Can you post a better pic plz??

[mattro]

as promised...
as you can see in the pictures, I measured it to pretty much exaclty a 5/8'' drop (or 15.875mm if you'd prefer), hard to take a good picture of the measurement though

stock sport on the left, with the b5 cap on the right
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/sparkonvr6t/My%20B6%20Audi%20A4/suspension/IMG_0882.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/sparkonvr6t/My%20B6%20Audi%20A4/suspension/IMG_0889.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/sparkonvr6t/My%20B6%20Audi%20A4/suspension/IMG_0886.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/sparkonvr6t/My%20B6%20Audi%20A4/suspension/IMG_0893.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/sparkonvr6t/My%20B6%20Audi%20A4/suspension/IMG_0900.jpg

[audimeister]

The amount of drop is not linearly related to the amount the spring is or is not compressed. The spring is preloaded as it sits in the suspension. B5 caps just preload less.

My car was at 26" in front before, now it's ~25 3/4" all the way around.

[mattro]

The amount of drop is not linearly related to the amount the spring is or is not compressed. The spring is preloaded as it sits in the suspension. B5 caps just preload less.

My car was at 26" in front before, now it's ~25 3/4" all the way around.


Sorry but the preload doesn’t have anything to do with it though. If the weight of the car would be less than of the preload it’s a different story.
The only thing the preload does is substitute the first few pounds of the car.
Lets say the preload would be 350lbs, than it means you can lower the car from the jack so it applies 350lbs and the spring won't move yet.
But as soon as the preload is overcome by the weight of the car, after that it’s just a F=kX equation, and it is linear.
Then if the position where the spring sits ends up being 5/8” lower, the car will end up being 5/8” lower.

[mattro]

I probably don't have to explain it in deep detail but I can't help it, I'm a mechanical engineer and I thought my last post wasn't exactly clear.

The preload is done by pre-compressing the spring by a certain distance offsetting the weight of the car by the same force. So whether you use the weight of the car to compress a spring, or you substitute 300lbs of the weight to replace it by another force makes no difference.

A 300lbs preload would mean that the spring was compressed by X inches prior to install it.
If the car was 3000lbs, the first 300 lbs of the car wouldn’t compress it (the preload was compressing it for the first 300lbs) and your effective weight from the car on the spring is 2700lbs to compress the rest, for a total load of 3000lbs.
If you only had a 100lbs preload, it would be 100lbs preload (X/3 distance), and then 2900lbs for the rest, again for a total of 3000lbs.
If you wouldn’t have any preload, your effective weight would be the full 3000lbs, lowering the car to exactly the same spot.

[audimeister]

Hmmm. That was my best guess. My car dropped 1/4".

[audimeister]

Hmmm, looks good. Can you post a better pic plz??

From the Texas state meet last weekend:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4333582514_77356923d0_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4333582534_f55853fb47_o.jpg

[TX-A4]

^^^ Looks good, are you stock Sport suspension in the back?

[audimeister]

^^^ Looks good, are you stock Sport suspension in the back?

Yes.

[carguy138]

Bump! Let's see some more install pics of these things.

So, do you guys think these will put any extra stress on the shocks just like when you install lowering springs on OEM shocks? Or do you think an alignment will be necessary after these things go on?

I'm starting to get excited about these, I think this could be a breakthrough in the Audi modding world. I know a ton of people (myself included) would love to get rid of that reverse rake on the sport suspension without having to lower my rear.


Anyone?

[audimeister]

Anyone?

No extra stress on the suspension- factory spring rate, close to factory travel (heck, it's the same as the '02 sport spring height.) In almost two months of use, I haven't bottomed it out once, unlike in my younger days when I put lowering springs on factory shocks- ALL of those bottomed out from time to time.

I have seen a few members combining the lower caps with lowering springs, which I think is a BAD idea.

Yes, alignment is required. Some shops will check your alignment for free, or cheap before you have to throw down.

[europaisch]

I've had the B5 lowering caps with Eibach lowering springs for about 10K now. Ride quality is great, no bottoming out, suspension is tight and the ride height is perfect.

[orafalcons]

So where can you actually get them from? I mean the OEM B5 caps.

[tankdeer]

Double post

[tankdeer]

Any Audi dealer. I got mine from www.genuineaudiparts.com

[Deck]

What did you guys pay for install and from who?

[tankdeer]

Self installed.

[europaisch]

To have them installed will cost you about the same to have your suspension done since they have to do all of the same work to get the caps on.

[A4_Eyez]

From the Texas state meet last weekend:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4333582514_77356923d0_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4027/4333582534_f55853fb47_o.jpg


So you have the B5 lowering caps and OEM S-Line suspension that's it? That looks real good.

[audimeister]

So you have the B5 lowering caps and OEM S-Line suspension that's it? That looks real good.

Correct.

[A4_Eyez]

Well Audimeister your picture just persuaded me to get these. Thanks

[A4_Eyez]

Just pulled the trigger on the lowering caps. I'll post pics as soon as I get them installed.

[orafalcons]

Just got quoted $660 to install caps on front end and Mount and Balance 4 tires! Anyone know how much this should be realistically? Im figuring about 60-80 for mount and balance and somewhat of a discount to install the caps since the tires will already be off...

[tankdeer]

Pretty much the same as it would cost to install springs, shocks, or coilovers on the front. The amount of work is almost identical. It took me about 2 hours. More or less working by myself.

[orafalcons]

Well this guy quoted me for 6 hours of labor. It seems like it wouldnt even be worth it to buy these if you weren't installing them yourself.

[jmars]

LOL......he must not want the job. Review the DIY suspension install. Maybe show it to another mechanic and get a non book price. My full suspension install fr&rr didn't even take 6 hours

[clemsongt]

Just one request to whomever puts them on next:

- State what suspension you are putting them on (stock or sport)
- Measure the height from ground to top of fender arch before B5 caps.
- Measure the height from ground to bottom of front bumper at its lowest point before B5 caps.
- Measure the height from ground to top of fender arch after B5 caps.
- Measure the height from ground to bottom of front bumper at its lowest point after B5 caps.

[dblock110]

havent read thru the entire thread yet . i am on H&R sport springs . thinking about gettin these for the front to make it a little lower . . . anyone do that yet ?

[BR576]

What size are your wheels and et? How about your tires? This is exactly what I am looking for?

[audimeister]

What size are your wheels and et? How about your tires? This is exactly what I am looking for?

Me? 19x8.5" ET35-ish (iForged doesn't release info), 235/35-19.

[fazda]

those look really great, but IMO it make more sense to just put lowering springs in the car. The install is quite easy.

[mattro]

just thought i'd show it works on the b6 also, same suspension

I bought stock 02 sport springs on 07 S4 shocks, and used the front B5 lower caps
I have a 1 finger gap in the front and around 2 fingers in the back and my tires are smaller than original so the gap should even be smaller

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/sparkonvr6t/My%20B6%20Audi%20A4/parts%20for%20winter%202010/IMG_1074.jpg

[mr_esmit]

I've had the B5 lowering caps with Eibach lowering springs for about 10K now. Ride quality is great, no bottoming out, suspension is tight and the ride height is perfect.

What shocks are u running, OEM sport??

[pide]

I just changed the Supersport lowering caps yesterday to my B7. Works very well and dropped the front about 25mm.

[casuso]

I just changed the Supersport lowering caps yesterday to my B7. Works very well and dropped the front about 25mm.

pics?

[joneze93tsi]

FYI:

They will only work with stock, or stock diameter shocks. I ordered a set when I was swapping on Koni's, and it's a no go.
For this reason, I have a set of the B5 caps if anyone is interested, PM me. I'll save you a few bucks over ordering online.

:)

[KiddEng]

FYI:

They will only work with stock, or stock diameter shocks. I ordered a set when I was swapping on Koni's, and it's a no go.
For this reason, I have a set of the B5 caps if anyone is interested, PM me. I'll save you a few bucks over ordering online.

:)

Hmmm...good thing did not order these yet; anyone tried the B5 caps w/ Bilsteins?

[pide]

pics?

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_IuU8jtv_5ro/TBlv_NktVyI/AAAAAAAAANw/UHpuzHST8xU/s720/IMG_0703.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_IuU8jtv_5ro/TBlwBYBDp3I/AAAAAAAAAN4/-Q5VM97vYv0/s720/IMG_0705.jpg

[rick1.8t]

FYI:

They will only work with stock, or stock diameter shocks. I ordered a set when I was swapping on Koni's, and it's a no go.
For this reason, I have a set of the B5 caps if anyone is interested, PM me. I'll save you a few bucks over ordering online.

:)


money sent. Thanks

[dblock110]

Hmmm...good thing did not order these yet; anyone tried the B5 caps w/ Bilsteins?

well our stock caps matched up to my bilsteins . . (meaning i didnt have to buy aftermarket caps AND they didnt come with any other capw) . so i assume since bilsteins use the stock caps, then these, stock-replacement caps work with bilsteins

[KiddEng]

well our stock caps matched up to my bilsteins . . (meaning i didnt have to buy aftermarket caps AND they didnt come with any other capw) . so i assume since bilsteins use the stock caps, then these, stock-replacement caps work with bilsteins

hah, that is true...don't know why i didn't correlate that... 'doh' i guess Koni's come with different perches to match their diameter? anyway i got bilsteins, so i'm good to go...gonna get these soon. thanks

[dblock110]

i have HR/bilstein's . . i wonder if this would be too low in the front . . .

[KiddEng]

i have HR/bilstein's . . i wonder if this would be too low in the front . . .

same here hr/bilsteins on my avant...as of right now i have a lil reverse rake and was looking to put these caps on to even it out a bit. it's kinda low, my belly pan and center exhaust scrapes here and there... but i want this reverse rake gone

[diagnosticator]

Sounds like the perfect fix for the ever so slightly higher front than rear on the sport suspension.

It's a lot easier and cheaper to add 10mm spring spacers to the rear suspension. PM for more info.

[BASARAB]

It's a lot easier and cheaper to add 10mm spring spacers to the rear suspension. PM for more info.

So to even out u proposing lifting rear instead of lowering front?

[baldy]

So to even out u proposing lifting rear instead of lowering front?

I had to this on my crossfire.. Has H&R springs for a slk32 and HR shocks..... Go to Mercedes dealer and ask to see their selection of spring pads... 5mm, 7mm, 9mm, 12mm, 15mm, 19mm....

But try the B5 lower perches first.. I have stock sport suspension on my avant and the B5 perches lowered it the right amount...

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s125/squidrider/crossfire/audiside.jpg

[J.Owen]

Just came across this and figured I would ask. Do the OEM struts use a circlip set-up similar to the bilsteins that the lower perch sits on?

[tankdeer]

No, they're just lightly press fitted.

[J.Owen]

bummer. So i guess thats a no go on regrooving them.

[Koby]

It's a lot easier and cheaper to add 10mm spring spacers to the rear suspension. PM for more info.

This makes no sense- spacers work horizontally, not vertically.

[jmars]

^^^^ Makes a ton of sense if you are leveling your car.........it's not a wheel spacer....... The spacer goes on top on the spring................but now you are increasing ride height which imo is counter productive to what you are trying to accomplish anyway.

[Koby]

Ah, I see. Yeah, just get coilovers at that point.