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D0lphinGrey
04-26-2009, 11:51 AM
Anyone has experience with ECS spacers? I like the fact they come with bolts as a kit.

http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi/?html=learnmore.html&productID=8823

I was originally looking at H&R spacers, their website was a bit confusing though, you have to find the part # for bolts to match.

supamannn99
04-26-2009, 12:24 PM
http://www.modbargains.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=63-003-002

they match it with the bolts that you need if you select "with bolts"

D0lphinGrey
04-26-2009, 12:35 PM
This is a better link: http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/pagebuild_v2.cgi?make=Audi&engine=2.0T&model=B7%20A4&submodel=Quattro&category=Suspension&subcategory=Wheel%20Spacers

D0lphinGrey
04-26-2009, 12:41 PM
http://www.modbargains.com/dept.aspx?dept_id=63-003-002

they match it with the bolts that you need if you select "with bolts"

Thanks for link. H&Rs work out to be cheaper then.

H&R 15mm with bolts $100. ECS 15mm with bolts $99.95

H&R 12mm with bolts $100. ECS 12.5mm with bolts $107.95!? (why?)

harryd14
04-26-2009, 03:12 PM
H&R 15mm with bolts $100. ECS 15mm with bolts $99.95

H&R 12mm with bolts $100. ECS 12.5mm with bolts $107.95!? (why?)


yeah i would assume H&R would be cheaper, especially after shipping cuz ECS likes to charge an arm and a leg for shipping

Quattro
04-26-2009, 04:58 PM
They are built basically the same, whatever you can get cheaper I would go with.

I ran h&r and ecs spacers with no problem.
-randy

supamannn99
04-26-2009, 05:09 PM
i've never had the ecs spacers so I don't know much about them, but i've had the H&R spacers before and they're top notch quality. They're hubcentric, lightweight, and very durable.

Quattro
04-26-2009, 10:03 PM
oh ya, forgot to mention, you need to make sure they are hubcentric! else it will be a pain to install.

UnkleGatsby
04-26-2009, 10:14 PM
I have ECS, and i love how they are black.

Bllzll
04-27-2009, 06:18 AM
oh ya, forgot to mention, you need to make sure they are hubcentric! else it will be a pain to install.

is it true that 5mm or less doesnt need to be hubcentric??

Quattro
04-27-2009, 09:47 AM
is not that it doesnt need to be, typically they dont come hubcentric for 5mm or less spacers. Hubcentric, is a small lip on the spacer that allows the wheel inner (bore *correct word?*) to align and hold the wheel on to put the bolts. It's probably more technical then what I wrote, but ill summarize it.

with 5mm or less, the lip on the hub is still somewhat able to hold the wheel and make it hubcentric. If you would have a 10mm spacer that is not hubcentric, it would be a nightmare to put the wheels on...I had one and returned it same day.

hope this helps, anyone correct me if I am wrong por favor.

john@fifteen52
04-28-2009, 05:07 AM
is not that it doesnt need to be, typically they dont come hubcentric for 5mm or less spacers. Hubcentric, is a small lip on the spacer that allows the wheel inner (bore *correct word?*) to align and hold the wheel on to put the bolts. It's probably more technical then what I wrote, but ill summarize it.

with 5mm or less, the lip on the hub is still somewhat able to hold the wheel and make it hubcentric. If you would have a 10mm spacer that is not hubcentric, it would be a nightmare to put the wheels on...I had one and returned it same day.

hope this helps, anyone correct me if I am wrong por favor.

Looks correct to me. The 5mm spacers still allow enough of the hub to poke through for the wheel to sit on, so the 5mm spacer will always be "hub-centric." But the center bore of the spacer still has to match the hub (57.1mm IIRC).

When you get to 8mm, the hub barely pokes through. The wheel will still sit centered on the hub, but you have to hold it on there while putting on lugs.

10mm and larger spacers do not allow any of the hub to poke through, so the spacer itself should provide a "hub extension" for the wheel to sit centered on.

Between H&R and ECS, I've used both with no problems. ECS just offers more size options than H&R to fine tune the offset. Whether it comes as a kit or not, just make sure you get the right bolts to match your wheels. It may be best to call or email ECS directly, let them know your setup, and they can recommend the right parts. You definitely want to get the right bolts to match, or damage can occur.