My Project.. Has begun, and were is going...

[Papa Stone]

I decided to put my project up in the forums.. here are some pics on how it begun
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705869_4445.jpg
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705872_5951.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705874_7092.jpg

Then this started
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705876_9509.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705884_9104.jpg
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705886_2016.jpg
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705887_3396.jpg
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705890_1678.jpg
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v190/11/114/514659828/n514659828_705891_5083.jpg
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v194/11/114/514659828/n514659828_722549_9893.jpg

So Here We are
http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v188/11/114/514659828/n514659828_730936_8188.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/Gabbscar.jpg
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v194/11/114/514659828/n514659828_722548_8769.jpg
work done
1. Full Bilstein suspencion
2. Full Paint job
3. New Roof lining
4. full bodykit..S4
5. New Rims
6. 5 speed conversion (it was tip when I bought it..)

I was going to go with this but!!
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v283/11/114/514659828/n514659828_926422_4259.jpg
But currently Next Stage:

1. VR6 Turbo kit with 034 motorsport engine mounts, tranny adapter, and clutch kit.. (looking for 500whp with a GT35R)
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v283/11/114/514659828/n514659828_926421_2847.jpg
On the works...BUHAAAA!!!
2. Porsche 996 buckets (painted GT3 orange to match ) with no rear seats(let others get their own ride;))
3. Brembo Brake kit (made by us) with 13.7 brake disk "front only"
http://photos-a.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v283/11/114/514659828/n514659828_940720_6835.jpg
4. 034 motorsport ecu running parallel with stock ECU to power up the display

Enjoy the pics, and feel free to comment.. I will put more pics, and more comments and the months go along with the built

[JumboBlack1.8]

Hot daaammn. This is quite the project, my friend. So far it looks like you've made some EXCELLENT choice (particularly the color.....GT3 orange is SO sexy), and the VR6 option is obviously a great choice. I just love the fact that all this work is going into an avant! FINALLY we have an avant in the project forum!!!

You are def reppin the Euro wagons properly. Well done man, and post LOTS of pics of your progress

[Euro-Tuner]

very jealous!

interior trim looks amazing!
can't wait to see some updates when you start the engine build!

[Papa Stone]

I actually had the chance to buy a S4 Stage III in Nogaro blue and I turn it down because of this came along. I always wanted a Avant for a project but couldn't find one. So when it came along (even with all the work that had to be done) I grab it..

So I got to do what I want, with what I wanted.. Hope you enjoy this trip

[pnuttaudi]

that shit looks sexy

[ChumbaWumba]

omfg...subscribed

[Stone825]

subscribed.

take off that S4 badge though especially cause you are going to have a VR6 in it now.

[Ads4]

Love the colour :)

Any more info on the smoked reare light clusters?

[Sharkfin]

wow what a change so far

[UnkleGatsby]

[up][up][up]Hell Yes!!!

[Papa Stone]

I like the badge.. Specially after I bought it new!!.. I will take it under consideration removing it..

I will take more pics of the rear lights.. But they are ease to make, its the stock one with a Dark film over it..

Thanks for the kind words. Tomorrow I will try to take pics of the interior with the buckets (just fitment, they should be ready to paint by this week) and the VR6 engine. I am actually in a bind on this one..

I have currently a 24V VR6 in pieces. I would have to purchase a few pieces to put it together (might even purchase rods, but it would take longer to do it, economics would make this project over 2500 and 3 months more to built). Also I would have to make the custom intake manifold. However I can go with a 12V, purchase the intake manifold from SPA, headgasket with ARP bolts and make my Horsepower Goal with some room to spare (running the GT35 turbo)
So you can make me choose.. 24v or 12V

[solowb5]

I'm going to go 24v. Seen cool things with that vvt

[4inchMAF]

i Really have started looking into this swap. you already know how you are going about this? stand alone EM? VR6 ECU and harness? we need details!!!

24V will flow more overall, but, obviously, costs more. the 12V motors can be had very cheap and there is always a surplus of them floating around. if it were me and i had all the money it seems you have (LOL), i would do it right with the 24V. if you decide on the 12V (which makes more sense from an economic standpoint), you could just get a good port job done to it to open it up some for better airflow.

[Papa Stone]

034 has run this set up in their car.Stand alone will be the way to go with my setup.
You can run the Stock cars computer for your dash and use the stand alone computer for your cars engine.. as I progress to this I will discuss and share on the fidings.. I am really liking the 12V solution because I been working with this for some time.. and I am getting desperate to run the car.. I might even work on the 24V later ..

[solowb5]

Just throwing and ecu and wiring harness isn't going to just work. There are certain things that will give you problems. You will also need to go through each harness and know what resistance is supposed to be seen at each sensor from each harness to make sure they are the same.

[Papa Stone]

solo.. I am not understanding your observation... why won't it work? Worst case scenario is that I have to buy a new dash . I am only thinking on buying the 034 Stage IIb product because of its integration with audi hardware..
http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_46&products_id=37

I have been reading alot about this product and have found that it integrates with our vehicles very good. However I will ask and make sure of the problems it will bring before purchasing it.. I have seen alot of audi's work with these..

[solowb5]

Of course the IIb will work, but I'd go IIc. I wasn't a fan of standalone. I was saying swaping in the oem hardware such as the engine harness and ecu will be trickier then theorizing. The 034 IIb will work on any rated sized engine. Standalone is standalone. It will run any engine. 034 just offerers a pre-made harness for the vag engines. It seems you know or have the hook up on body work, but it seems you should call 034 so you can decide what you really want and can do.

[Papa Stone]

Thanks I just PM you on this.. I am lucky with my built. We have the only Mechanical/Bodyshop in Puerto Rico with full engine services and a 7000 square foot facility. My partner is very good in engine, and electronics, but this is the first time we have started with a built of this level. and it will be a first on a Audi in this Island.

BTW, the only reason I would keep anything OEM is to run the Stock Dash in the car, and for what I read the OEM ECU is needed too run the panel.

[Wizard-of-OD]

solo.. I am not understanding your observation... why won't it work? Worst case scenario is that I have to buy a new dash . I am only thinking on buying the 034 Stage IIb product because of its integration with audi hardware..
http://www.034motorsport.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_46&products_id=37

I have been reading alot about this product and have found that it integrates with our vehicles very good. However I will ask and make sure of the problems it will bring before purchasing it.. I have seen alot of audi's work with these..

As slowB5 has said,
you will need the Stage IIc system.
Stage IIb does not have enough drivers to control 6 coils , 6 injectors and 2 VVT solenoids.
My personal opinion is to go with the 24V VR6 motor because they are OEM motor mounts that work with the motor.Building an intake manifold is not an issue.I like the SPA 12V manifold but the units that show up on ebay need severe casting reworking and when you see what 600US+ gets you ,you begin to question whether it was worth it.

My advice for the turbo manifold on a budget is to get OEM manifolds and just run a Y-pipe.The VR motor allows you to have that room.

I added you to msn so feel free to message me anytime you want.

[Papa Stone]

Thanks Issam..

[solowb5]

what's the 411 on the mounts used?

[Siena]

I love the look of this Avant!

Papa, what engine was in your car to begin with?
From the initial pictures, it wasn't an S4.

[ryannorthcott]

car looks awesome! love the colour.

not really liking the bright red seats though

[SleeperAvant]

Amazing!

[Papa Stone]

2.8 30V V6 is the original engine..

Thanks for the complements.. I am no longer using this horid red seats..

Issam, if I use a 12V VR6 can I use a IIb?

[audiFUEGO]

omg im squirting everywhere

[blmlozz]

how far did you strip the engine bay? did you leave the accessories in as seen in the pictures or did you go full-bare? Just wondering because I'm considering the same full-body strip re-spray. Thanks and good work. [up]

[Papa Stone]

FULL BARE!!

[4inchMAF]

is IIb wasted spark?

[Papa Stone]

Issam convince me to go 24V VR6 so ... this will take a little longer but my end date is for a European Fest @ the end of the summer..

Now we can look at 600whp on high boost and 109oct fuel. I am also looking into two turbos.. either a Borg Warner S362 or a S364.. they seem to be very capable for this HP!!

... You see there is this friend of mine with a ZO6 (with 520whp) that has called my car a Pumpkin cake.. So I have taken it a little personal and I want to Kick his A$$ with a WAGON!!

[pipe7284]

Lovely project!!!!!!

[Wizard-of-OD]

so...24V VR6 it is!

[lookaught]

That's a fantastic project! Bringing that car back from the edge of death, my hat is off to you!

[Russell2686]

wow man awesome job can't wait to see more[up][up][up]

[.Mad Hatter.]

holy shit...keeping an eye on this for sure.

[Papa Stone]

Ok, Last night (SUNDAY) I brought it to the shop and started working the minor details..
1. Polish ..
2. Fitting the new seats (I still have to paint them , and stich them on orange
3. Start finding the engine (which is somewhere in the shop)
Here some eye candy for you all
Full Polishing
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The VR6 A4/DSC00012.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00011.jpg
Soon to be Stich in Orange and painted
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The VR6 A4/DSC00013.jpg
Seat Placement
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00018.jpg
The Head .."I found it!!!! YeAH"
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00017.jpg
The Block .. With all the parts (still thinking about the rods)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00009.jpg
Another interior Pic
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00014.jpg
some one ask about the Taillights
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00019.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00019.jpg

[Sigma 3]

Issam convince me to go 24V VR6 so ... this will take a little longer but my end date is for a European Fest @ the end of the summer..

Now we can look at 600whp on high boost and 109oct fuel. I am also looking into two turbos.. either a Borg Warner S362 or a S364.. they seem to be very capable for this HP!!

... You see there is this friend of mine with a ZO6 (with 520whp) that has called my car a Pumpkin cake.. So I have taken it a little personal and I want to Kick his A$$ with a WAGON!!

[:D] that is good motivation. Nice project[up]

[big_greasy_taco]

This is going to be a sick car, Keep up the good work.

IMO, the seats in there now do the car no justice. Have Recaro make you some custom racing seats, black leather with an orange alcantara center insert. The would be so hot

[pipe7284]

nice paint job

[offroader1006]

um, WOW[o_o]

[misterjj2u]

did you use a donor car to swap the car from auto to manual? How was that process?

[Papa Stone]

to give you a brief description..
Yes... Donor car, had the rear hit HARD!! So i took the front doors, the read handles and the full tranny and Swap it.. I still need to install the rear diff but I am almost done in that department!!

Anyone want to buy a Auto diff? It will be available soon

[GramCracker]

Sounds like it will be a great build! Whoop your friend's corvette's ass!

[bernB5]

love it all except for the tails... go with oem s4 avant tails please!

and go with an hta 35r .82 :)

[Rhinop21]

^Word and[hail]

[B5A4Kevin]

nice nice car. looks way better than when it started. im not sure how much fabrication is needed for the engine mounts or starter, but i remember a discussion on here about using the 24v block vs the 12v block. iirc the ideal solution is the 12v block with the 24v head, because apparently the 24v block gets hairline cracks at over 5-600 hp?

is the head from the 24v salvageable, because that would be the route i would go imo. great built and look forward to some updates. peace.

[02SILVANT]

Wow amazing transformation!

One beautiful car and the best color combo. Orange with black. Love it.

[Papa Stone]

I am pretty sure the 24V head doesn't fit with the 12V head?!
The mounting holes are different..

[Nebone]

You found the motor quick. If that is a block from a 12V then that 24V head won't mate to it :(

[Papa Stone]

You found the motor quick. If that is a block from a 12V then that 24V head won't mate to it :(

Well, I had this engine rolling in the shop in Pieces.. They are some parts I need to get but is a full head and block from a 24V Is missing 3 rods but the pistons are there. This was a done deal even before I had the car . The engine actually has a Story behind it..but I will leave it for some other time

love it all except for the tails... go with oem s4 avant tails please!

and go with an hta 35r .82 :)

Thanks for the comments.. However the GT 3582R (is a great turbo) is not the latest in town.. I hear great things about the BW S362.. This turbo will take me to my WHP goal!!

[Mr.Black]

man thats sweet looking forward to more updates.

[sr71sss]

sorry for the noobie question but I want details on the black wheels you have on there

offset, size diameter and tire size thanks in advance....

[zrowcool]

que caro chevere tienen ahi... la isla necesitaba un taller con talento. Espero verlo en mis vacaciones este verano.

que viva!!

[AudiA4_20T]

GT4088 FTW, skip the 35R nonsense lol

[Papa Stone]

sorry for the noobie question but I want details on the black wheels you have on there

offset, size diameter and tire size thanks in advance....
They are 18x8 with 235/40/18 painted in black.. Love the wheels..offset 35et


GT4088 FTW, skip the 35R nonsense lol
well, the S362 or 64 is a great selection for the use because I won't be breaking parts all the time( real problem when you get into a HP that stock parts are not suppose to be reaching). This is not for breaking records with a GT40R plus cost .. I am already in a 10G built!? Have you read about about the new Borg Wagner turbos??@!! They are suppose to be great, as good as a Ballbearing. Anyway 500whp is more than enough for me.. More than any audi over here.. plus still got VP, Methanol and NOS! [;)] just kidding


que caro chevere tienen ahi... la isla necesitaba un taller con talento. Espero verlo en mis vacaciones este verano.

que viva!!

Claro.. Mi shop esta en la baldorioti en Islaverde cerca del aeropuerto.. Me envias un mensaje privado y puedes ver el progreso..

Hace frio por aya???

I did some work today, and will post more pics on monday for your viewing pleasure.. Saturdays is Work days [;)]

[AudiA4_20T]

Yes ive done plenty of research on the Borg Warners. I actually got a ride in a Mk2 Jetta with an S362, pulled HARD. Anyway, Im just messing with you the 35R should be an absolute street monster, and I know what its like to be in a 10k build [headbang]

[Papa Stone]

Yes ive done plenty of research on the Borg Warners. I actually got a ride in a Mk2 Jetta with an S362, pulled HARD. Anyway, Im just messing with you the 35R should be an absolute street monster, and I know what its like to be in a 10k build [headbang]


Thanks..[cool] ..by your parts listed on your sig, you have more than 10g..

[Papa Stone]

More Pics from the weekend
1. Take out old engine (2.8V6 5V for sale)
2. Find the rest of the VR6 engine.. (I did)

Enjoy
The Old for Sale.. 2.8V6 5V
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00014-1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00013-1.jpg
Need a VR6T [=(]
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00015-1.jpg
The VR6 -T
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00021.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00018-1.jpg

The rest of the parts .. Found them in a box and it make me really HAPPY!!![o_o]
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00019-1.jpg

By next week this engine and the block should be in the Machine shop being oiled up and the block should be painted. Soon to order the rods and all the Hardware to put the engine together

[JetBlue]

Awesome project

[A4Rob]

Keep up the great work!

[Siena]

Can't wait to see this all come together.

[Papa Stone]

Hey Sienna!! I am going weekend by weekend. I am suppose this week to do
1. Paint seats in Orange (backs), paint the leather in Black, and stich the seats in orange
2. Send the block to clean, and head to clean
3. Finish the seat brackets to fit seats ..
This will take a while, but it should be done by the end of August. .. Is weekend by weekend

[biketsai]

<-Super stoked!! Good stuff man, keep it coming!

[bassed]

Awesome project, to bad there really is not much space to utilize it to it's fullest down there in PR.

[project mayhem]

wow thats sick

[Papa Stone]

Awesome project, to bad there really is not much space to utilize it to it's fullest down there in PR.


Yes.. is only 100/35 miles. However we have some tracks and 1/4 miles to enjoy it.. Also I am putting together a Mile long event for the end of September that will be the bomb!!.. Their are a few Landing strips that are desolated (including a goverment one that is 1.8miles)

[bassed]

Yes.. is only 100/35 miles. However we have some tracks and 1/4 miles to enjoy it.. Also I am putting together a Mile long event for the end of September that will be the bomb!!.. Their are a few Landing strips that are desolated (including a goverment one that is 1.8miles)


I need a vacation, toss me the keys for a while and I am down there[:D] You should buy my car to toss around on the airstrips[up]

[Papa Stone]

Come down .. and will talk.. at least a test drive and a nice Senorita you'll get

[Papa Stone]

Done some more work..
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00027.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00026.jpg
Freeking block and parts are already in the machine shop cleaning and the headgasket and the valve cover are cleaning. I was thinking on doing a little creative painting in the headgasket (like a german flag or something)..

I should be able to get the leathers in today so I can put the seats together..

[belinko]

Awesome project!

Great color theme. The brembo calipers are begging to be painted orange.

Keep up the good work. [up][up]

[Papa Stone]

Done with the painting today.. I just need to paint my hood because I didn't like the way it came out.

I will try to put paint the wheels tomorrow (front a dog mess them up) and put the calipers on (YES PAINTED IN GT3 ORANGE!!) and be done with it for the next two weeks. Hopefully my block will be ready and I will order the ARP bolts from 034 (plus a few things). Freeking tax season, has been a killer in our business these days!!

[AudiA4_20T]

maybe I sound dumb but what is that porsche piece? ive been trying to figure it out but I just cant

[Enclave]

Seat?

[Papa Stone]

Yes, its the back part of the seat..

[Papa Stone]

After a long weekend, I am done with the painting.
Seats, All Done!! They have been repainted, and rears painted in orange!!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00039.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00040.jpg

Calipers in Orange, just waiting for the brembo logo to arrive, to install them
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00041.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00042.jpg
Still wainting on the engine to get clean to start putting it together..

[VTAudiA4]

Wow those seats look amazing. Pretty impressive work. I can't wait to see some more pictures of the engine built. [up]

[onemoremile]

well, the S362 or 64 is a great selection for the use because I won't be breaking parts all the time( real problem when you get into a HP that stock parts are not suppose to be reaching). This is not for breaking records with a GT40R plus cost .. I am already in a 10G built!? Have you read about about the new Borg Wagner turbos??@!! They are suppose to be great, as good as a Ballbearing. Anyway 500whp is more than enough for me.. More than any audi over here.. plus still got VP, Methanol and NOS! [;)] just kidding



Think of the HTA turbos as BW extended tip turbos with ball bearing center sections. The best of both worlds.

[Papa Stone]

From this
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00018.jpg

to this!!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00043.jpg
is a big leap!! The Seats were repainted Black, alot of Lexol! and the rears were painted GT3 orange..
Next step
Get the seat brackets to install them
get my engine back, finish the first order of parts, and put the engine together with
a)C2 spacer (got it)
b) ARP rod bolts
c) ARP Head Bolts
d) new bearing caps
e) new toureg valve cover
f) Toureg oil pan

-- once that step is done is when things get serious. I want to put this engine in the car in 3 weeks.. just to see it !! Hopefully by then I'll be able to get the parts ...

[t1demont1]

wow i love the paint. That orange looks incredible. Cant wait to see another vr6 a4.

[solowb5]

Why are you using a toureg oil pan and valve cover? I know the toureg uses a longitudal vr6.

[Papa Stone]

The toureg valve cover is flat on the front side of the cover. This is needed for hood clearance. The Oil pan is cut differently so you can clear the cross member

[Siena]

Loving this.

Your color combination is giving me ideas to work with, on my newly purchased Audi 100 S4 Avant.

[praudi]

[hail][hail]loco te esta quedando increible me da orgullo ver q esto esta hecho en la isla del encanto demuestrales de que estamos hechos suerte [wrench][hail][hail]

[Wizard-of-OD]

The Oil pan is cut differently so you can clear the cross member
You are still going to have to cut the cross member with the Touareg oil Pan.

[Papa Stone]

Thanks, .. Project is going slowly, got a business trip and I will not be back till for the next 2 weeks. Hopefully by then my engine will come out of the machine shop!!

[praudi]

papa stone are u puertorican?

[Papa Stone]

Si..

[solowb5]

You are still going to have to cut the cross member with the Touareg oil Pan.

Can that be avoided by using a different transmission?

[AudiA4_20T]

Can that be avoided by using a different transmission?

what would the trans have to do with it?

[Wizard-of-OD]

Can that be avoided by using a different transmission?
With an oil pan that we provide it can.

[O2VW1.8T]

Issam starting new badass trends. Hopefully soon i will join.

[dubiraq05]

are you able to retain the factory a/c?

[solowb5]

Because I'm assuming that you have to cut the front since there is a tranny adaptor plate put in(moving the engine forward more then it already is going to be with the vr). So getting a shorter tranny could eliminate this or minimize it.

Are all 01x tranny gears interchangable?

[kluge9]

update??

[Papa Stone]

soon... I am just waiting for my engine to arrive and send 034 for my parts.. I promise I will post all the pics of what O34 sends me and after the engine is in.. JULY is going to be a interesting month for my built. Also after alot of consideration I have decided on putting the PTE 6262 in the car!!

Its just taking so long because I been very busy in the shop .. But trust me I can wait to break the tranny LOL..

[kluge9]

word

[SFexBOY]

moar updated pics.

[AudiA4_20T]

Because I'm assuming that you have to cut the front since there is a tranny adaptor plate put in(moving the engine forward more then it already is going to be with the vr). So getting a shorter tranny could eliminate this or minimize it.

Are all 01x tranny gears interchangable?

no bc they all have different ratios

[kluge9]

Still waiting on the engine??

[onemoremile]

after alot of consideration I have decided on putting the PTE 6262 in the car!!


That should be good for about 450whp. Sounds nice.

[Papa Stone]

yeah, my engine guy is really starting to get me upset..

Actually: i have a buddy making 540whp on a S2000 on this turbo.. So it should make a little more ;)

[njm23]

My buddy's 06 STi on the 6262 made 650AWHP on race fuel fyi.

[Caddy7]

yeah, my engine guy is really starting to get me upset..

Actually: i have a buddy making 540whp on a S2000 on this turbo.. So it should make a little more ;)

Are you serious? Can an s2000 make that much hp, how much $$ did it take to get there?

[goody6691]

they can make the power thats not the hard part its putting it down without destroying the drivline thats the hard part. my buddy had an s2k putting down 411whp on the wastegate. he ate a trany and a rear diff. the rear diff is the weak part in the car. it was scary fast, kinda like riding in a motorcycle.

[O2VW1.8T]

Are you serious? Can an s2000 make that much hp, how much $$ did it take to get there?

tony1 build a S2000 stock engine from valve cover to oil pan made 701whp[o_o]

[Papa Stone]

My Friend is Pepo Besosa, one of the most recognize guys in the Honda seen. His car has a stock tranny and he has not broken it. Part of his combo is stock compression pistons (forged) and pauter rods. The guy know what he is doing.. Just to give you a Example

his 1/4 mile Red Star Motoring's S2000 - 9.14 @ 154mph on slicks.. Enought said.

[dirtybrd]

tony1 build a S2000 stock engine from valve cover to oil pan made 701whp[o_o]

I was about to say that I've seen a stock motored S2K put down 700WHP.

[kluge9]

enough about s2k's...whats the latest on your build?

[will175]

Crazy sexy build, Will def keep checking these thread for updates. Keep up the top notch work.

[1998A4Quattro]

dude... just dude... this is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sick i can't comprehend its sickness!!!! i want to trade my sedan now!! hahaha

[ENDEE666]

Updates?

[pipe7284]

X2

[pja0750]

Calipers in Orange, just waiting for the brembo logo to arrive, to install them
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00041.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00042.jpg


what paint material did you use on your calipers? im going to paint mine just not sure what to use?

[solowb5]

That turbo is 700 hp capable. That is the one I chose. The limiting factor on the 24v is the head. I've noticed that most people are making 4-450 fwhp but, when the r32 head is put on the power seem to limit out where your pockets stop lol.

[Coopa]

I've just went thru this build and I must say, amazing. [up] That orange looks super good, sorta reminds me of Sienna's s8 powered s4.[:p]

Couple questions,
You have yet to mention, is this going to be 4-motion/quattro or what?
What porsche seats did you snatch up and what did it take to bolt them in?
Keep up the good work man![wrench]

[ENDEE666]

And what was involved with getting that brakes setup to fit & bolt up? Any adapters needed?

[Papa Stone]

I've just went thru this build and I must say, amazing. [up] That orange looks super good, sorta reminds me of Sienna's s8 powered s4.[:p]

Couple questions,
You have yet to mention, is this going to be 4-motion/quattro or what?
What porsche seats did you snatch up and what did it take to bolt them in?
Keep up the good work man![wrench]

All avants are Quattro ..

I use 996 sport seats and I need to make brackets for these.. which I have not have any time to do anything these past months. I been watching the built for the engine over the B5 S4 so I can see what we need to make this a reality..

I created some brakets to put together with the car's original brake brackets. Also you need to create a new brake line for this (which is no problem if you know a good shop that does lines, I just took a sample and they make the line").

The paint is normal car paint with with 93 glasuri clear and two heat cycles on a paint oven..

[ENDEE666]

I created some brakets to put together with the car's original brake brackets. Also you need to create a new brake line for this (which is no problem if you know a good shop that does lines, I just took a sample and they make the line").




Cool. Any more detail you can give on what it took to fit the brake setup? Or closer, more detailed pics? You can PM me if you prefer... Thx

[Rotond0000]

ohhh myyy goodddddddddd[o_o]

[Papa Stone]

well, The Economic downturn and my time line has crash and I haven't done anything to the car.. I have decided to go 4 cyl with a different combo (read NON 5 valve and NON 1.8T). It should be interested.. like the 6057 for this combo

[Siena]

You're down sizing from a V6 to a 4-banger?? [o_o]

[Papa Stone]

yes sir.. The VR6 is more work and time that I need at this moment

I am keeping my VR for some other moment, but for now something else

I really want to run my car by years end

[Kyle H]

K20 or 4g63?

[Papa Stone]

1.8T AEB

[Kyle H]

2.2L?

[Papa Stone]

Here is the braking system installed. Some day It will all come together
The Old
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00008.jpg
The New.. SWEETT
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00009-1.jpg

I was unable to put a rim because the bolts are too long, so I have to get new bolts for the wheel to fit..

The ABA engine arrived so I am taking the block to the machine shop to get the pistons fitted.

[witwer4444]

......How is the car coming. This is my favorite build btw :)

[Papa Stone]

Hi to all!!! I just bought a Passat for the AEB engine so I will be doing alot of updates in the next weeks. I also talk to Garret @ GIAC and ask him for a tune for a 16G Mitsu turbo, hopefully this will come to a end by of the year. I also talk to mike @ awe and his shipping me the clutch and a few other toys..

[NeedingAnAudi]

Hi to all!!! I just bought a Passat for the AEB engine so I will be doing alot of updates in the next weeks. I also talk to Garret @ GIAC and ask him for a tune for a 20G Mitsu turbo, hopefully this will come to a end by 3 weeks (target time). I also talk to mike @ awe and his shipping me the clutch and a few other toys..

Finally!! I've been waiting for you to build the avant up for quite a while. Good Luck [up]

[Papa Stone]

thanks .. motivation

[protocol_droid]

holy smokes, great thread and I can't wait to see the engine pics!

[Papa Stone]

I should have been done with it this weekend, but a moron (ME) ordered the Clutch for a Non Aluminum flywheel app and I have a Aluminum one!! So I could put the engine in the car. I am done with the braking system, and I am finishing the Seat adaptation Tuesday.
I still have some work but I promise to post some picks tomorrow to show you my progress. Its hard building a car ALONE!!![:(] Even with a shop.

[toddstebleton]

I felt good about replacing my heater core. Jesus is impressed with this!

[Papa Stone]

No need to heater in Puerto Rico.. The coldest it gets here is 70 degress

[Papa Stone]

Thanks to Mike at AWE, I got the clutch in today and stayed up late to put the engine. You will see alot more progress in this car know that we have things rolling.
Remmember this was a V6, AUT avant, and we made it STD and 1.8T!! so its been a long trip. Sure I wanted to go VR6 (and still have the engine) but things have not gone my way so is more important to start using it that letting it fester in a corner of my shop..

Next up, Intercooler piping, putting all the accesories, and electric fans..
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/IMG00405.jpg
pic of the day!!

[trbosqrl]

i understand how much did the vrg swap cost in parts

[Papa Stone]

just the parts to put the engine in the car is close to 2,000. Then you have to find a way to start it up.. another 2000 (or more in the ECU). Then you have to get your turbo stuff on and everythihng else..

My budget on the VR6 was easy 9,000 and I was doing all the labor, and the welding!!

btw I might still do it, having the Passat helps me on the install because I can use it without having to stop the Audi, but is a long term plan.. We already started the car and I am just waiting for a few parts and hoses to get to Puerto Rico. One of the problems are that the hoses and not available in Puerto Rico in black (always in blue), so I called http://www.siliconeintakes.com so I can get the correct color..

[a4b7smallturbo]

damm thats a hot avant pretty jealous

[Papa Stone]

OK!! I am back
just finish putting together the interior.
and Finally purchase this
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs024.ash2/34550_440097944281_209851989281_5888321_2273535_n. jpg
psi manifold
psi turbo TDO5 16g (580cfm from a Evo III )
psi rai downpipe
psi line kit
FMIC
440cc green inj
VR6 MAF 2.75
3 inch exhaust
Maestro 5
Greddy Boost controller

Already in the car is the JHMotorsport shifter combo..
I will take some pics as soon as posible specially as soon as I get the turbo parts..

[Papa Stone]

PSI Showed up with their 16G
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00033.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00034.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00035.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00036.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/DSC00037.jpg

[biketsai]

That PSI stuff is sick! Ive gotta get me something like that.

[onemoremile]

That turbo is 700 hp capable. That is the one I chose. The limiting factor on the 24v is the head. I've noticed that most people are making 4-450 fwhp but, when the r32 head is put on the power seem to limit out where your pockets stop lol.

I just saw this post. The stock 24v VR6 head flows better than a heavily modified 12v head. Now take a look at the power people are making on 12v heads and ask yourself if there is really an issue there worth worrying about.

[rogerius]

amazing stuff this PSI is.I wish I knew before my build.
Very good work Papa.

[Papa Stone]

Yes I like it. It's mostly new. I am pretty stoke with it and Jeff is giving me a hand on this. Jeff is a big believer of MHT.
Also Maestro 5 is going to be running my entire computer system.

[Papa Stone]

Oka guys, we are pushing hard to get the avant out by the 1 of Dicember. I bought a garrett intercooler core because the CFM are correct for the turbocharger I purchase. I talk to chris over @ eurodyne to purchase the harness for the A8 MAF I need to run the 630cc injectors because after the math, the 440cc injectors would be top out with this turbo, so I decided to go a little big bigger!!
I tell you, FINALLY I SEE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL!!

[Papa Stone]

Some updates.. I hate not having finish this but work, and my free time have being very limited..
I actually finish one segment of the tubing for the intercooler, also the interior is being mounted,boost controller, and the boost gauge with A/F ratio is also being laid out.

Wow, its being 2 years since I started!! Projects just take to damn long
Blow valve and tubing..
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/IMGP6491.jpg
PSI manifold, and 16G turbo, with 3 inch downpipe
The Flowmeter is actually a A8 V8 2001 with harness (needed to run Maestro 5)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/IMGP6490.jpg
Finally Powder black( had them painted last time)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/IMGP6493.jpg
The interior coming together.. I still wainting for the Shifter boot (suede black). Can't wait to use all that JHM stuff!!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/IMGP6494.jpg
The Seats finally in its place.. I am sorry for the guys sitting in the back, ..
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/The%20VR6%20A4/IMGP6487.jpg

In all I still have to finish the Quattro install (from Aut to STD)
Weld the exhaust (3 inch) Is already done, just needs to weld the top to the new downpipe (thanks Jeff)
A/C (Must in Puerto Rico)
Downloading the Maestro
Just cleaning and fixing the stuff that breaks after 2 years sitting on my garage
and a bunch of stuff (little stuff) .. It seems like is never going to finnish

[witwer4444]

^^ Looks different, but i kinda like it.

[M-Hood]

I should have been done with it this weekend, but a moron (ME) ordered the Clutch for a Non Aluminum flywheel app and I have a Aluminum one!! So I could put the engine in the car. I am done with the braking system, and I am finishing the Seat adaptation Tuesday.
I still have some work but I promise to post some picks tomorrow to show you my progress. Its hard building a car ALONE!!![:(] Even with a shop.

I think you mean you ordered a clutch with a unsprung disk vs a sprung disk for a single mass flywheel. The clutch for a aluminum flywheel is the same for a steel flywheel since both are single mass and cut the same.

Just posting that so no one gets confused and things there is a clutch kits for aluminum flywheels and different ones for steel.


Nice build.

[Papa Stone]

Just to share
I am almost done, It starts, we just need to finish welding the exhaust and finish the details and ride.. I hope to use it this weekend. To share some pics fo my friends VR6T done by us (full restoration)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/SEMA/My%20Sled/IMGP6562.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/SEMA/My%20Sled/IMGP6558.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/SEMA/My%20Sled/IMGP6563.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/Speedlabtt/SEMA/My%20Sled/IMGP6557.jpg