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dougyfresh

02-25-2009, 08:04 PM

Look what arrived today courtesy of our friends at Deutsche Teile Haus (http://shop.dthaus.com/)

[eek]

http://solidflow.net/fresh/turbo_1.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/turbo_2.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/turbo_3.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/turbo_4.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/turbo_5.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/turbo_6.jpg

ForcedPerformance HTA GT3582R
W/ T3 .63 A/R 3" VBAND
Upgraded turbine housing

Oh, and here's the 2.0FSI that we will be tearing apart to strengthen it up to meet our power goals.
http://solidflow.net/fresh/023.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/024.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/025.jpg
And I thought my 2.0L stroker was clean [o_o]

Sorry.. No pics of the B7 just yet. That would spill the beans and spoil all our fun [:p].

ataylor

02-25-2009, 08:05 PM

LET THE RACE BEGIN.

are you sure u dont wanna use my car? I'm close to you, wheres your shop?

AWDTURBO

02-25-2009, 08:06 PM

This is for another car you have lined up?

ataylor

02-25-2009, 08:09 PM

lol @ tags for this thread

dougyfresh

02-25-2009, 08:14 PM

This is for another car you have lined up?

No, same car I mentioned in Shawn's thread. We began brainstorming this project many months ago (late Autumn '08). A good friend of Jake (317ssayzarc) and myself wanted to take their B7 A4 to the next level. After much discussion we have found ourselves constructing a fully built 2.0FSI HTA 35R with custom Motronic tune.

Our shop is in Rhode Island.

I495 Bandit

02-25-2009, 08:15 PM

Plan on going with a custom ss tube mani?

phantomRS4

02-25-2009, 08:30 PM

lookin good, good luck and keep us posted [up]

AudiA4_20T

02-25-2009, 08:33 PM

No, same car I mentioned in Shawn's thread. We began brainstorming this project many months ago (late Autumn '08). A good friend of Jake (317ssayzarc) and myself wanted to take their B7 A4 to the next level. After much discussion we have found ourselves constructing a fully built 2.0FSI HTA 35R with custom Motronic tune.

Our shop is in Rhode Island.

I had the vision, I feel like I get no credit for any of these projects but I'm the true salesman lol

Oceanside

02-25-2009, 08:56 PM

I smell some racing when they are done

audidrver

02-25-2009, 09:28 PM

Nice. We should all contribute like 1 dollar to and whoever finishes first with a BAMFT equipped b7 should win the prize money. A little incentive so this won't take a year.

Quattro

02-25-2009, 09:28 PM

i want to kill myself, keep us posted....should be a fun ride!

audidrver

02-25-2009, 09:34 PM

^^^^^If you do Please not like this. I like your car.
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/dpa/lowres/dpan714l.jpg

Quattro

02-25-2009, 09:37 PM

lol, thanks...i wouldnt do that to my car...

ataylor

02-25-2009, 09:58 PM

i bet you we could raise some $ and see some quicker results with that donations idea

audidrver

02-25-2009, 10:10 PM

i bet you we could raise some $ and see some quicker results with that donations idea

Have a set completion date and the fastest full weighted b7 gets the cheese.

Turn10

02-25-2009, 10:29 PM

Just a new turbo, I know you will need other stuff to upgrade the current engine so it doesn't explode or something.

eskimopunk

02-25-2009, 10:43 PM

oh niceee. and how the fuck is that engine bay so damn clean? seriously lol

Sharkfin

02-25-2009, 11:03 PM

subscribed.

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 04:20 AM

Plan on going with a custom ss tube mani?

I Believe they are initially going with cast just because shawn has a tubular lol for comparison reasons. originally the idea was tossed up to contact Californa Jay to do a manifold but seeing as they could get the cast manifold much faster and support their WHP goals, it was the better choice....

for now

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 04:27 AM

Sick! Very curious to see the differences in spool between the HTA and the TS

And for those complaining about getting these cars completed, my plan is to have my car at a show on March 14th with all the hardware done so unless something drastically goes wrong, I think Ill win [:D]

Great White

02-26-2009, 05:13 AM

subscribed.

Chb04

02-26-2009, 05:47 AM

Thats a killer deal a FREE BB Curve with the purchase of a new TURBO? NICE!

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 05:55 AM

Thats a killer deal a FREE BB Curve with the purchase of a new TURBO? NICE!

did you not see the protective case as well!

dougyfresh

02-26-2009, 06:14 AM

And for those complaining about getting these cars completed, my plan is to have my car at a show on March 14th with all the hardware done so unless something drastically goes wrong, I think Ill win [:D]

Well, our race is to actually make some power. Not bolt on a bunch of hardware and look pretty while the software and remaining hardware follow. [;)]

I understand Shawn is using his vehicle as a marketing tool for his business. Hence he's doing things in stages so it will be driveable by March. We're doing it all at once. Will Shawn's car be making over 500awhp by March? Nope. SO, the race is still on.

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 06:24 AM

Glad I could help get you guys a HTA turbo Doug. Wish I could afford putting one in my car.[:(]

ataylor

02-26-2009, 06:29 AM

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 06:37 AM

You B6 guys are intense [o_o] no wonder Shawn came in so strong, he was conditioned by the B6 forums [rolleyes]

But really all trickles down from the B5 forums.[>_<]

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 06:39 AM

Well, our race is to actually make some power. Not bolt on a bunch of hardware and look pretty while the software and remaining hardware follow. [;)]

I understand Shawn is using his vehicle as a marketing tool for his business. Hence he's doing things in stages so it will be driveable by March. We're doing it all at once. Will Shawn's car be making over 500awhp by March? Nope. SO, the race is still on.

Power really matters for this show ... Does everyone need to see how fast I drive there and how fast I leave? Horsepower doesnt mean shit when the car is sitting still. Both cars are getting pretty much identical setups other than the tunes and manifolds. I have no doubt either tune is going to max out the fueling available so honestly I dont see a race to anything other than maxing out an injector which is going to be around 500awhp. Ive already said it a few times, Im not interested in a high race gas number until more fueling is available where the turbo can max out the setup. All I care about for this year or until bigger injectors are available (for less than 1k bucks a piece) is maxing out fueling on pump/meth which should hopefully be in the low 400awhp range. I don't even have the car together yet and it's already doing exactly what I'm building it for. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you as the B6 BAT stuff started. I'm sure you'll make it evident that your car will be better in some way and as I didn't care with the B6, I don't care with this one either.

Don Supreme

02-26-2009, 06:43 AM

But really all trickles down from the B5 forums.[>_<]

indeed.

Chb04

02-26-2009, 06:49 AM

did you not see the protective case as well!

NO! I missed that! It's an even better deal.[:D]

ataylor

02-26-2009, 06:49 AM

Power really matters for this show ... Does everyone need to see how fast I drive there and how fast I leave? Horsepower doesnt mean shit when the car is sitting still. Both cars are getting pretty much identical setups other than the tunes and manifolds. I have no doubt either tune is going to max out the fueling available so honestly I dont see a race to anything other than maxing out an injector which is going to be around 500awhp. Ive already said it a few times, Im not interested in a high race gas number until more fueling is available where the turbo can max out the setup. All I care about for this year or until bigger injectors are available (for less than 1k bucks a piece) is maxing out fueling on pump/meth which should hopefully be in the low 400awhp range. I don't even have the car together yet and it's already doing exactly what I'm building it for. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you as the B6 BAT stuff started. I'm sure you'll make it evident that your car will be better in some way and as I didn't care with the B6, I don't care with this one either.

Just as I said in your thread, this 'king of the hill' mentality is a bit ridiculous. We're all going to love both cars, I'm sure. And the very fact that both of you have bought B7s and starting getting crazy with BT is only going to shorten the time it takes to make them widely available for everyone else, so we're appreciative to both of you for that as well!

Why can't that just be the goal? Pioneer something, take us along for the 'ride' with the build thread, and maybe even put together a kit after you find a reliable setup. Making it a serious competition will only result in neither party sharing information and could hold back both builds!

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 06:50 AM

Power really matters for this show ... Does everyone need to see how fast I drive there and how fast I leave? Horsepower doesnt mean shit when the car is sitting still. Both cars are getting pretty much identical setups other than the tunes and manifolds. I have no doubt either tune is going to max out the fueling available so honestly I dont see a race to anything other than maxing out an injector which is going to be around 500awhp. Ive already said it a few times, Im not interested in a high race gas number until more fueling is available where the turbo can max out the setup. All I care about for this year or until bigger injectors are available (for less than 1k bucks a piece) is maxing out fueling on pump/meth which should hopefully be in the low 400awhp range. I don't even have the car together yet and it's already doing exactly what I'm building it for. I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you as the B6 BAT stuff started. I'm sure you'll make it evident that your car will be better in some way and as I didn't care with the B6, I don't care with this one either.

Then why are you in the race or posting saying "I WIN"?

Sorry but what is the point of putting together a car to make power just so it can sit in a booth? Sounds too much like that S4 with the big turbos sitting out the top of the hood that is all over the car shows, but yet it doesn't make squat for power. All show and NO go.[down]

So the show is for "power" but yet all you will be showing off is hardware that isn't making power at all? [confused]

BTW did you buy another tire smoker/high dyno reading queen or did you buy something with traction this time?

ataylor

02-26-2009, 06:52 AM

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:01 AM

Then why are you in the race or posting saying "I WIN"?

Sorry but what is the point of putting together a car to make power just so it can sit in a booth? Sounds too much like that S4 with the big turbos sitting out the top of the hood that is all over the car shows, but yet it doesn't make squat for power. All show and NO go.[down]

So the show is for "power" but yet all you will be showing off is hardware that isn't making power at all? [confused]

BTW did you buy another tire smoker/high dyno reading queen or did you buy something with traction this time?

I said it jokingly, I already sense the same bullshit from Doug's B6 build that I used this and this is best or better than yours. I dont even have my B6 anymore yet the fact that I used the ATP mani and REVO software on my B6 and it was a complete waste continues to come up. Good for it, it was a waste then in their opinion. Does that change my feelings towards it? Nope, O yea and it was FWD, want to take some more stabs at that? Knock yourself out ... I dont care. Being that he posted this with my name in the title says to me that he is trying to hit a nerve with my build. Its pretty simple that I dont care, I never thought I would be the only 35R B7, I never intended to be. For what we do, most of the shows my car will go to the car will drive there, sit in one spot all day, and then drive home. I represent the shop, I have to be in a booth to talk with me, show them the car, talk to people about it. Not sit in staging lanes for hours and hours. Will the car make power, of course, mainly for my own gratification. Will the car go to the 1/4 mile, yes, again only on my own time (not at shows) just to see what it will do. 1/4 isn't my thing, it never has been. I know I won't be able to drive the car to its potential so I'm not overly worried about 1/4 mile just as I wasnt with my 13.8 @ 111 with the B6

You guys have a different mentality for these cars and setups, this car is a business tool, nothing more. I doubt Ill have it nearly as long as I did my B6 as there will be something more important to be experimenting with in a few years. What I can get done with this car in a short time hardware wise before the 14th, and motor/powerwise before Waterfest is most likely all it will ever see

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:05 AM

and its Q

IceMole

02-26-2009, 07:19 AM

Not to shit in anyones cheerios but how can there even be this pissing match? One is using his own car and his own money, the other is using someone elses car and someone elses money?

ataylor

02-26-2009, 07:23 AM

^ a very good point, and I'll admit I lol'd at the cheerios.

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 07:27 AM

Not to shit in anyones cheerios but how can there even be this pissing match? One is using his own car and his own money, the other is using someone elses car and someone elses money?

who is who then. please be more specific

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:27 AM

I was waiting for someone to point that out, thank you. I am also doing this on my own time, on nights and weekends all myself. I have customers cars to work on during the day!

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:28 AM

who is who then. please be more specific

I am building my own car with my own money

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 07:30 AM

and so is the other guy, so i dont get it. [confused]

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 07:31 AM

Not sit in staging lanes for hours and hours.

I guess you have never been to an actual "drag event" and only have experiance with street legals.

At actual drag events were you enter a "class" you sit in line for about 15 minutes max. But I guess thats where being an actual "drag racer" comes in handy vs just running the car down the track.[>_<]

I am building my own car with my own money

Which basically means the shops money right?

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:32 AM

and so is the other guy, so i dont get it. [confused]

No he's not, Doug and Kompresed (sorry forgot his name) via the shop DoWerk is building the 35R B7 for a customer

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:34 AM

Which basically means the shops money right?

Do I need to send you my checking account statement to show you the 10 grand worth of parts coming out of my personal checking account? We arent even making any money right now at the shop, pretty much breaking even each month, does that sound like it pays for 10k worth of parts? [rolleyes]

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 07:35 AM

Do I need to send you my checking account statement to show you the 10 grand worth of parts coming out of my personal checking account? We arent even making any money right now at the shop, pretty much breaking even each month, does that sound like it pays for 10k worth of parts? [rolleyes]

But did that money come from the shop in the first place or are you telling us that you are a "Trust fund" kid?

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 07:36 AM

No he's not, Doug and Kompresed (sorry forgot his name) via the shop DoWerk is building the 35R B7 for a customer

lol so. when you build a customers car, the customer doesn't pay for the parts? you are building your car to represent your shop....no? Out of your money. Doug and Jake took the project know that it was new territory to venture into they are building because im pretty certain its what the CUSTOMER wants.

this is turning into too much of a debate it was intended as a friendly competition =)

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 07:37 AM

No he's not, Doug and Kompresed (sorry forgot his name) via the shop DoWerk is building the 35R B7 for a customer

LOL. What does that have to do with a customer paying people to work on his car and paying for his parts out of his pocket? You are acting like Jake/Doug are paying for everything and doing all the work for free. Do you go building cars at your shop for free and give away all free parts?

Sorry to tell you this Shawn, but it was the customer that ordered and paid with his own CC for the HTA and clutch/flywheel setup for his B7 that Jake/Doug are working on.

UFfitz56

02-26-2009, 07:42 AM

LOL. What does that have to do with a customer paying people to work on his car and paying for his parts out of his pocket? You are acting like Jake/Doug are paying for everything and doing all the work for free. Do you go building cars at your shop for free and give away all free parts?

Sorry to tell you this Shawn, but it was the customer that ordered and paid with his own CC for the HTA and clutch/flywheel setup for his B7 that Jake/Doug are working on.

I think that's the point....the customer is paying for everything including labor so they essentially have NO risk. Where as shawn doesn't have a customer to pay for all the parts and labor. At least not yet [:D]

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:45 AM

But did that money come from the shop in the first place or are you telling us that you are a "Trust fund" kid?

I sold my A4 for 15k and have 11k from parts from my B6. I have a 21k loan for the B7. I bought the E30 for 2700 and put 600 bucks in it. Does that leave me in the +? [rolleyes] Since Jan 08, I have taken home 11k from the shop. Does that pay all my bills and pay for 10k worth of parts?

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:47 AM

LOL. What does that have to do with a customer paying people to work on his car and paying for his parts out of his pocket? You are acting like Jake/Doug are paying for everything and doing all the work for free. Do you go building cars at your shop for free and give away all free parts?

Sorry to tell you this Shawn, but it was the customer that ordered and paid with his own CC for the HTA and clutch/flywheel setup for his B7 that Jake/Doug are working on.

I understand that, but Doug is making the debate Shawn Vs Doug. Its not my car vs him, its my car vs his customers car. His customer should be posting this up, not him

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 07:50 AM

lol so. when you build a customers car, the customer doesn't pay for the parts? you are building your car to represent your shop....no? Out of your money. Doug and Jake took the project know that it was new territory to venture into they are building because im pretty certain its what the CUSTOMER wants.

this is turning into too much of a debate it was intended as a friendly competition =)

Of course the customer pays for it. Doug is making this him vs me on the build, he has nothing to do with it other than he is putting it together. I am working on building a similar 35R setup on a MK5 GTI for a customer. Should I throw that one into the "competition," Ill bet money it will put down more power than both my car and Doug's customers car.

dougyfresh

02-26-2009, 08:11 AM

Just as I said in your thread, this 'king of the hill' mentality is a bit ridiculous. We're all going to love both cars, I'm sure. And the very fact that both of you have bought B7s and starting getting crazy with BT is only going to shorten the time it takes to make them widely available for everyone else, so we're appreciative to both of you for that as well!

Why can't that just be the goal? Pioneer something, take us along for the 'ride' with the build thread, and maybe even put together a kit after you find a reliable setup. Making it a serious competition will only result in neither party sharing information and could hold back both builds!

I said it jokingly, I already sense the same bullshit from Doug's B6 build that I used this and this is best or better than yours. I dont even have my B6 anymore yet the fact that I used the ATP mani and REVO software on my B6 and it was a complete waste continues to come up. Good for it, it was a waste then in their opinion. Does that change my feelings towards it? Nope, O yea and it was FWD, want to take some more stabs at that? Knock yourself out ... I dont care. Being that he posted this with my name in the title says to me that he is trying to hit a nerve with my build. Its pretty simple that I dont care, I never thought I would be the only 35R B7, I never intended to be. For what we do, most of the shows my car will go to the car will drive there, sit in one spot all day, and then drive home. I represent the shop, I have to be in a booth to talk with me, show them the car, talk to people about it. Not sit in staging lanes for hours and hours. Will the car make power, of course, mainly for my own gratification. Will the car go to the 1/4 mile, yes, again only on my own time (not at shows) just to see what it will do. 1/4 isn't my thing, it never has been. I know I won't be able to drive the car to its potential so I'm not overly worried about 1/4 mile just as I wasnt with my 13.8 @ 111 with the B6

You guys have a different mentality for these cars and setups, this car is a business tool, nothing more. I doubt Ill have it nearly as long as I did my B6 as there will be something more important to be experimenting with in a few years. What I can get done with this car in a short time hardware wise before the 14th, and motor/powerwise before Waterfest is most likely all it will ever see

So, this is where I'm at. I hope it addresses these two comments above.

1) I posted Shawn's name to grab his attention. I made this thread out of pure fun. Not to push Shawn's buttons. But more to say "Hey, we're on our way now." and create a nice 'show' for the readers and our fellow B7 A4 community. Having said that, I changed the title to not be directed against anyone.

2) I understand Shawn's perspective. It is his personal car like his B6 was and it is also a marketing tool for the shop. Marketing tools can be made into many different forms. His (as of right now) happens to not take the avenue of a big power car (big power I am talking 500+awhp). There is nothing wrong with that.

3) Our customer wants to make some serious power. Knowing Mike Hood is making 600+awhp on race gas with a 2.0L stroker motor and a 35R (in a B5) tells me that we can be in that territory. Right now, the achilles heel is the fueling. We are doing a lot of research into that aspect and working with our tuner and a few other suppliers to make sure the fueling supports our goals. We are also leveraging vendors to support the aftermarket with the cylinder head (valves, springs, cams, etc..).

4) Our customer came to us and we put together a plan to meet his goals. That plan will be evolving seeing as this is something new on this chassis and new products and finds will be uncovered along the way. He is paying for this. Not Jake and I. Jake and I have our own personal projects that we fund ourselves.

5) Our customer would like to remain anonymous until the project is completed. That is why I posted this and not he. It kind of makes everyone guess and keeps people interested.

For the record... The only thing I had an issue with on Shawn's B6 was his software. His software did not [fully] support his hardware configuration and in my eyes that is a foolish way of spending money.

The software goes a long way in these vehicles. It is easy to bolt on anything and get it running. Now bolt on anything and get it running smoothly and optimum for the hardware.... That is the hard part seeing as only a handful of people can write software for Bosch Motronic and custom hardware kits (like these here). It is difficult for the major software providers to keep up with all these different 1-off hardware configurations. It is not in their business plan and that is why they do not necessarily support configurations like this.

From my conversation with Shawn a few weeks ago I like his software approach with his B7. Predominantly because his B7 is a marketing tool for the shop and they are looking to create a 'complete package' of hardware and software using his vehicle. That is the right approach to take. I hope he has the support of his software vendor to reach that goal.

redhott06

02-26-2009, 08:37 AM

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 08:37 AM

Of course the customer pays for it. Doug is making this him vs me on the build, he has nothing to do with it other than he is putting it together. I am working on building a similar 35R setup on a MK5 GTI for a customer. Should I throw that one into the "competition," Ill bet money it will put down more power than both my car and Doug's customers car.

Another VW transverse FWD vs Audi comparison [rolleyes]. Lets leave that to the people at TEX because it is pointless.

yes it might make more power but whats the point when it cant put the power to the ground.

I understand that, but Doug is making the debate Shawn Vs Doug. Its not my car vs him, its my car vs his customers car. His customer should be posting this up, not him

No it is car vs car. Doug posts as a rep for that customers car while you rep for your/shop car. The customer isn't posting because at this point he is just the one paying for the project.

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 08:38 AM

A4ringedONE8T

02-26-2009, 08:40 AM

Another VW transverse FWD vs Audi comparison [rolleyes]. Lets leave that to the people at TEX because it is pointless.

yes it might make more power but whats the point when it cant put the power to the ground.

No it is car vs car. Doug posts as a rep for that customers car while you rep for your/shop car. The customer isn't posting because at this point he is just the one paying for the project.

Mike is god, Mike is god ... does that make you happy? Ill stay out of your shit, you stay out of mine. Deal? [rolleyes] [headbang]

redhott06

02-26-2009, 08:41 AM

Mike is god, Mike is god ... does that make you happy? Ill stay out of your shit, you stay out of mine. Deal? [rolleyes] [headbang]

^^ lol seriously.

troll [;)]

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 08:48 AM

I think that's the point....the customer is paying for everything including labor so they essentially have NO risk. Where as shawn doesn't have a customer to pay for all the parts and labor. At least not yet [:D]

that doesn't make sense. They BOTH have risk involved, because Shawn opted to do the work himself it doesn't involve risk? that just sounds stupid. If you feel that Jake and Doug are doing all the work themselves, you are HIGHLY HIGHLY mistaken, think of them as advisers

ataylor

02-26-2009, 09:00 AM

there's inherit risk in both, on different levels. On group doesn't want to f*ck up a customers car, obviously. And the other doesn't want to fuck up his OWN car, obviously.

But it doesn't matter who owns what, who has vested shop- or personal-interest in the car making monster HP, who's acting as build-manager and leaving most of the work to their subordinates, or who's doing all the work themselves. We'd all just love to see both cars reach their goals, with no disasters along the way.

UFfitz56

02-26-2009, 09:02 AM

I'm sorry I misunderstood. But I meant it to read that they have much less financial risk. Is that not true?

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 09:05 AM

ah that makes sense. Jake and Doug do know the owner well and they work hand in hand, we can't look at it as a customers car imo because he isnt just a customer. They all had the vision, now turning it into a reality takes more than one person in this particular case. And they all want whats best for the car....knowing them all. i would hope so lol

dougyfresh

02-26-2009, 09:07 AM

Nice response Doug, I have no direct problems with you, we have got those out in the past I thought (and hoped). I'm not going to sit back and take bullshit again on this car though as I did with the B6 from ANYONE. I dont think I can express how tight of a budget I have been on since I got into the shop. The only reason I sold my B6 was because I could no longer afford to get to where I wanted with the car. We (the shop) is still alive, it pays for itself monthly, Brad and I accept that and cover ourselves and personal expenses on our own inorder to hold the shop out until the economy improves. Occasionally we will get some small amounts of income but what I have made in over a year from the shop does not even begin to pay for the parts going on the B7. I am building this car strictly from the money I got from my B6, when that is gone (which its getting close), I dont have anymore. I am doing everything I can to stay within that budget and still have part of the money for personal stuff (I do have a wife [:)]) yet make a car that is respectable and brings some business and/or attention to the shop!

Agreed.

Yes, we got that out and its all good. I did not mean to start this as a "I -vs- You" debate. My apologies.

ah that makes sense. Jake and Doug do know the owner well and they work hand in hand, we can't look at it as a customers car imo because he isnt just a customer. They all had the vision, now turning it into a reality takes more than one person in this particular case. And they all want whats best for the car....knowing them all. i would hope so lol

Correct. Its a collaborative effort on our end amongst the three of us. Right now I am providing guidance/support while Jake is working with his suppliers to make sure the hardware is coming in. Once the vehicle is delivered to Jake's shop I will help him with the wrench turning.

When are we going to do such a thing to your car? You know you want something like this. [:D] From what I remember seeing your car in the Thanksgiving GTG it looks like a perfect candidate.

ElCapitan464

02-26-2009, 09:09 AM

put the turbos on guys, and let the horse power speak for itself

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 09:40 AM

Mike is god, Mike is god ... does that make you happy? Ill stay out of your shit, you stay out of mine. Deal? [rolleyes] [headbang]

No one is in your shit Shawn, last time I checked this was a forum.

Why would calling me "God" make me happy? That word doesn't exactly mean crap to me seeing that I am an atheist.[:p]

You dont have to get all pissy just because I own a A4 that makes huge power and can actually make use of that huge power.

eastwick897

02-26-2009, 09:45 AM

Hyphy

02-26-2009, 09:57 AM

Not to shit in anyones cheerios

never heard that one before..

..watching.

20A4Audi1.8t01

02-26-2009, 10:01 AM

No one is in your shit Shawn, last time I checked this was a forum.

Why would calling me "God" make me happy? That word doesn't exactly mean crap to me seeing that I am an atheist.[:p]

You dont have to get all pissy just because I own a A4 that makes huge power and can actually make use of that huge power.

well ive stayed outta this thread and have just been reading, not taking anyones side here, but is your car street legal? Do you auto x or track it other than the straight line 1/4 mile?

Yes you have a fast car with lots of power, Shawn is building a daily driven car and occasionally using it to run it down the track.

This is rediculous thought we were all one BIG happy family helping and supporting others!? [rolleyes]

that is all...

Hyphy

02-26-2009, 10:02 AM

is all this bullsh*t really necessary? god. cant people just be happy to see a sick b7 being built? who cares where the money is coming from? does it really matter?

life is unfair, people have more money than others, some dont have to work for it. some people use cars for one thing, others use it for other reasons. get OVER IT!!!!

haha im sorry this is just ridiculous.. good luck on both builds and cant wait to see the results

ima have to agree..

I'm sitting here reading all this bullshit and honestly, it's just pointless..

Everyone just mind your shit..or learn how to internet (if you will)[i'm so getting flammed now - ahha].

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 10:03 AM

ahh i see, you floridians are sticking together huh.....

mike-2ptzero

02-26-2009, 10:39 AM

well ive stayed outta this thread and have just been reading, not taking anyones side here, but is your car street legal? Do you auto x or track it other than the straight line 1/4 mile?

Yes you have a fast car with lots of power, Shawn is building a daily driven car and occasionally using it to run it down the track.

This is rediculous thought we were all one BIG happy family helping and supporting others!? [rolleyes]

that is all...

It is used as a track car seeing that is the only real place you can use huge power without breaking the law all day long. I have a Titan as my daily driver which has simply no problem going the speed limit even while towing my 630whp A4.

Could my car be street legal? Yes, if I wanted to register it for the street because at this point it is 100% smog exempt. But that would mean having to pay for registration and full insurance for a car I wouldn't even want to drive on the street seeing that it has a full cage, huge fmic, no exhaust and would be pulled over the second a cop looks at it.

As for daily driven 500awhp A4, been there done that about 4 years ago.

Fact is 300 or 1000+awhp is all the same on the street seeing both of them are making the same power when going the speed limit.[>_<]

mioStile

02-26-2009, 12:32 PM

Big ups to those who are doing just what the thread title says - pushing the envelope. Looking forward to seeing the b7 tuning scene evolve!

slimmj0k3r

02-26-2009, 03:03 PM

When are we going to do such a thing to your car? You know you want something like this. [:D] From what I remember seeing your car in the Thanksgiving GTG it looks like a perfect candidate.

Soon. [wrench]

dougyfresh

02-27-2009, 06:40 AM

Soon. [wrench]

Awesome. Once this car is done we'll chat about yours. [up]

20A4Audi1.8t01

02-27-2009, 11:44 AM

It is used as a track car seeing that is the only real place you can use huge power without breaking the law all day long. I have a Titan as my daily driver which has simply no problem going the speed limit even while towing my 630whp A4.

Could my car be street legal? Yes, if I wanted to register it for the street because at this point it is 100% smog exempt. But that would mean having to pay for registration and full insurance for a car I wouldn't even want to drive on the street seeing that it has a full cage, huge fmic, no exhaust and would be pulled over the second a cop looks at it.

As for daily driven 500awhp A4, been there done that about 4 years ago.

Fact is 300 or 1000+awhp is all the same on the street seeing both of them are making the same power when going the speed limit.[>_<]

ok mike more power to ya! [up]

dougyfresh

03-02-2009, 08:54 AM

Found another promising option for tuning yesterday through a friend of mine. The owner of the car called up this tuner today and spoke to him. Sounds like they have vast knowledge in the fueling side for the FSI.

That is two options for custom Motronic tuning that we are considering.

dougyfresh

03-05-2009, 08:19 AM

Slugs (err. I mean Pistons) are in.

CP Custom Piston Set 83MM 9.5:1 92.8 Stroke FSI

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-1.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-2.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-3.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-4.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-5.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-6.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-7.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-8.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-9.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/pistons/pistons-10.jpg

Don Supreme

03-05-2009, 08:23 AM

Nice....

Seeing more and more CP pistons in these VAG motors lately.

dougyfresh

03-05-2009, 08:35 AM

Oh, and we're using Scat connecting rods. Jake will be fully balancing the rotating assembly. It'll be pure harmony during operation.

Still need to find aftermarket valve stuff [headbang]

317ssayzarc

03-05-2009, 08:53 AM

Wait, Scats? Really? Huh, ok then...

Gotta love these CP's. The attention to detail on the underside of the skirt, no rough edges, nice thick meaty pin area, ect... They look amazing, but we will see how they weigh out, that is the true test in my opinion...

slimmj0k3r

03-05-2009, 09:09 AM

weren't scats already discussed in the original plan MONTHS ago ?

317ssayzarc

03-05-2009, 09:14 AM

Brutes or Pauters I thought...

AudiA4_20T

03-05-2009, 09:38 AM

DoWerk

317ssayzarc

03-05-2009, 09:44 AM

I love the tags to this thread Doug [:D]

dougyfresh

03-05-2009, 11:30 AM

I love the tags to this thread Doug [:D]

hahahah [up]

aaron1085

03-05-2009, 11:47 AM

you got a new blackberry?!!?!? haha - awesome turbo man!

AudiA4_20T

03-05-2009, 02:21 PM

I love the tags to this thread Doug [:D]

lol u saw that too? I was like wtf?

scoobycarolan

03-05-2009, 02:56 PM

Wow guys...
The tags? [>_<] KILLING ME?

So parts are showing up? Where does the build actually stand right now? Is the engine all torn apart? Have you held its juicy insides up and shook them at the gods yelling NO!!!!!

I just want to see it at the end, I remember watching the buikld of Winston's B6 on AW and it was so awesome-ly great. I felt like I was a part of the crew!

Congrats, good luck, and show us more!

jimmya4

03-05-2009, 03:02 PM

that turbo looks pretty damn nice. im pretty excited about all the new turbo set ups people are trying. will only help others make the transition and make diy's cheaper and easier. my only problem is it would take me a year to be able to spend money like that and by then my car will have 70k miles on it [=(]

dougyfresh

03-05-2009, 03:21 PM

So parts are showing up? Where does the build actually stand right now? Is the engine all torn apart? Have you held its juicy insides up and shook them at the gods yelling NO!!!!!

The owner still has the car in his possession. It'll be dropped off at Jake's shop in a few weeks. Then things start coming apart [wrench]

KryptoniK

03-05-2009, 04:47 PM

good lord!!!! finally some real turbo upgrades ;)

Jake39454

03-10-2009, 04:43 AM

This is coming together very nicely!

The car will be at our shop soon. Then the real fun begins [evilsmile]

slimmj0k3r

03-10-2009, 05:22 AM

DW officially official?

A4ringedONE8T

03-10-2009, 05:30 AM

slimmj0k3r

03-10-2009, 05:32 AM

wasn't your goal like march 24th to have everything in at least?

A4ringedONE8T

03-10-2009, 05:33 AM

wasn't your goal like march 24th to have everything in at least?

March 14th, this weekend, and I would have it together if it didn't take 2 months to make a fucking manifold [rolleyes]

dougyfresh

03-10-2009, 07:37 AM

Can't wait to see this one go under the knife as well. I have everything sitting here staring at me, that is everything except a Manifold [rolleyes] I'll be doing everything at once now, motor is coming apart sometime next week after the show. Stock turbo at the biggest show of the year in FL [down]

FYI, if you guys are still thinking about getting a mani from the same place as mine, make sure you leave 3 months to wait for it [headbang]

Custom work takes some time. I actually have to email Jay. He was going to make me an adapter for my coolant system on my Avant. I'm retrofitting a B5 (traditional) thermostat into my B6. Not really happy with the modification I made on the B6 thermostat to fit my AMU block.

Liking the new car, Shawn?

Yes. DoWerk is now an official advertiser [up]

Fobia

03-10-2009, 11:01 AM

my friend just put a similar size turbo in his vr6 70 ar and that thing just screams!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r8fN4bpJ6g

he wasnt even boosting all the way.. we used duct tape from the turbo to throttle body.. hahahah cause the manifold was so messed up..

im excited to hear and see how this car performs!

lunch special

03-10-2009, 02:26 PM

WOW, good luck guys, cant wait till i see the outcome of this.

slimmj0k3r

03-24-2009, 01:54 PM

in hopes of keeping this thread alive, and since doug is out of the country and unable to post... Fresh photos for all of us to enjoy [up]

ClutchMasters FX400 [confused] i believe, more info when I'm sent the specs.

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_1.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_2.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_3.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_4.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_5.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_6.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_7.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_8.jpg

http://solidflow.net/fresh/clutch/clutch_9.jpg

Error

03-24-2009, 02:45 PM

LOL ====> Deutsche

slimmj0k3r

03-24-2009, 04:31 PM

Specs !

This is The FIRST B7 2.0t Billet steel flywheel Made for DTHaus.com by ClutchMasters. CM FX400 6 puck sprung Disk

Jake39454

03-24-2009, 04:33 PM

Ballin out! [cool]

dougyfresh

04-01-2009, 09:16 PM

Awesome! I heard the car will be dropped off at the shop this weekend.

scoobycarolan

04-01-2009, 09:20 PM

Nice! Pics or it didn't happen!

mike-2ptzero

04-01-2009, 09:36 PM

Awesome! I heard the car will be dropped off at the shop this weekend.

I heard more parts are on the way.

Nico

04-02-2009, 12:58 AM

Whats the deal with these forged pistons everyone is putting in? I was reading that the stock ones have a groove in them to help circulate the fuel. Won't this effect the running of the car?

Charles

04-02-2009, 06:09 AM

From the previous pics posted, it looks like the CP's have a groove.

slimmj0k3r

04-02-2009, 08:10 AM

From the previous pics posted, it looks like the CP's have a groove.

i've seen them in person they do. JE's also have that same groove

Nice! Pics or it didn't happen!

I'll be up that way for DOD but i'm trying to stop by Do Werk to get some pics and videos. stay tuned!!!!

mike-2ptzero

04-02-2009, 01:33 PM

Hey guys, while visiting Clutch Masters this morning I was told that they will be getting their very first Twin Plate FX600/700 with steel flywheel very soon.

Jake39454

04-05-2009, 12:15 PM

cool beans Mike.

The B7 now resides at our shop. Fabrication of the FMIC and exhaust side components (mani, etc..) will commence in the next week or two. Then the motor is pulled from the car and we'll begin to disassemble it and start the build-up with all the forged goodies [:D]. Did I say this car is still under warranty? Well, not for long [evilsmile]

I think we may have found our tuner yesterday. Full custom file written specifically for this car and using all the factory sensors and Motronic system. Things look very promising [up].

slimmj0k3r

04-05-2009, 12:42 PM

http://solidflow.net/dowerk.jpg

DWG was kind enough to let me stop by since i was in the area. i think they're biased to silver....no? haha

dougyfresh

04-05-2009, 01:33 PM

I spy a single turbo B5 S4 [:D]

and the B7 obviously. hehehe

sean1.8t

04-09-2009, 10:56 AM

finish Derek's car!!!!!!

dougyfresh

04-10-2009, 02:03 PM

motor is going into the b5 s4 this weekend. motor is coming out of the B7 A4 this weekend.

IceMole

04-10-2009, 02:12 PM

Don't forget to snap some pics....batman [>_>]

Chb04

04-10-2009, 03:56 PM

Why do all these new parts come with free BlackBerries??? LOL Stuff looks sick!

eastwick897

04-10-2009, 04:02 PM

I have this odd feeling that this is slimmjok3r's car... If it is..Dude you should definitely come clean to us :)

slimmj0k3r

04-10-2009, 04:59 PM

I have this odd feeling that this is slimmjok3r's car... If it is..Dude you should definitely come clean to us :)

I WISH!!!!.... my rear bumper reflectors aren't painted, they will be shaved like my fronts are, i'm just lucky Knowing all partys involved. The owner of the car is sort of the guinea pig, if all is well i'm next as i still do have block parts sitting in my house from a build thread i started last year lmao [wrench]

mike-2ptzero

04-10-2009, 05:02 PM

That GT35r would look pretty on this.

The super Bling.
http://www.centralvalleyspeed.com/photogallery/albums/userpics/10093/HPC_silver.JPG

LOL

dirtybrd

04-10-2009, 06:46 PM

They'd both look better in this
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/photo32.jpg

A4RingPimp

04-10-2009, 06:59 PM

LOL

Wizard-of-OD

04-11-2009, 05:18 AM

4) Our customer came to us and we put together a plan to meet his goals.
Really?

AudiA4_20T

04-11-2009, 08:02 AM

Jake stop bullshitting and finish these cars

A4ringedONE8T

04-11-2009, 08:19 AM

Jake stop bullshitting and finish these cars

x2 less talk, more do!!! We havent even seen all of the parts yet ...

Jake39454

04-11-2009, 09:26 AM

Really?

Do you really want to go there? [>_>]

Please don't add anything unless it's constructive, we don't need to have a battle over credit/ego here. The customer showed up with rods, bearings and headbolts. The rest was determined involving solely DWG, end of story. Sorry you feel you were robbed of a customer.

Wizard-of-OD

04-11-2009, 05:11 PM

Do you really want to go there? [>_>]

Please don't add anything unless it's constructive, we don't need to have a battle over credit/ego here. The customer showed up with rods, bearings and headbolts. The rest was determined involving solely DWG, end of story. Sorry you feel you were robbed of a customer.
This is false but whatever the case enjoy your build .Sorry for the thread jack[>_<]

Sly Raskal

04-11-2009, 05:29 PM

So let me guess this straight, you're simply swapping the stock turbo for an Garrett unit?

I'm a Turbo newb so bear with me.

Jake39454

04-11-2009, 05:57 PM

This is false but whatever the case enjoy your build .Sorry for the thread jack[>_<]

No problem, much love for 034/INA still. [up] For good parts vendors with nice proprietary products [cool]

Jake39454

04-11-2009, 06:02 PM

So let me guess this straight, you're simply swapping the stock turbo for an Garrett unit?

I'm a Turbo newb so bear with me.

Well if only it was that simple [:D]

You need a different manifold, oil/coolant lines, downpipe, inlet, ect just to fit the hardware. Then you need to build the motor to support the 500+awhp this specific Garrett unit is capable of flowing. Then you need to build up the fueling system, flow and pressure wise, to match the airflow. Then build the drivetrain (mounts, clutch, ect) to hold the power and the list just keeps on going. It's complex but it's all built around a goal, and the turbo is just one part of it [cool] [wrench]

Sly Raskal

04-11-2009, 06:50 PM

Well if only it was that simple [:D]

You need a different manifold, oil/coolant lines, downpipe, inlet, ect just to fit the hardware. Then you need to build the motor to support the 500+awhp this specific Garrett unit is capable of flowing. Then you need to build up the fueling system, flow and pressure wise, to match the airflow. Then build the drivetrain (mounts, clutch, ect) to hold the power and the list just keeps on going. It's complex but it's all built around a goal, and the turbo is just one part of it [cool] [wrench]

Thanks for the information. I had to ask because I don't know much about the different turbo's out there. I know absolutely nothing about the garret turbos and only that a K03 puts out less than a k04. I had heard with some older VW models that a simple turbo swap yielded some minor gains with just the turbo swap so was wondering if the same is available for the 2.0T.

Jake39454

06-01-2009, 04:37 PM

Motor is out of the B7 now that most of the engine parts have arrived. We'll have her disassembled and at the machine shop in a day or two.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0601091553.jpg?t=1243898820

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0601091716.jpg?t=1243898803

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0601091715.jpg?t=1243898811

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0601091716a.jpg?t=1243898789

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0601091717.jpg?t=1243898836

eastwick897

06-01-2009, 04:55 PM

Nice! Keep the updates and pics of the progress coming. Good work guys

dougyfresh

06-01-2009, 04:55 PM

I'll be at the shop Saturday working on my B6 and will get some updates then.

eastwick897

06-01-2009, 04:59 PM

Is that your B6 in the background of the last pic?

dougyfresh

06-02-2009, 03:59 AM

Is that your B6 in the background of the last pic?

Yes

slimmj0k3r

06-02-2009, 09:23 AM

Is that your B6 in the background of the last pic?

i was just gonna ask the same thing [>_<]

Geoffafa

06-02-2009, 09:49 AM

Sick color, sick wheels on teh avant hehe...

Can't wait to see the finished product. And really, what are you guys doing with fueling?

dougyfresh

06-02-2009, 10:20 AM

Sick color, sick wheels on teh avant hehe...

Can't wait to see the finished product. And really, what are you guys doing with fueling?

Is your car running the same wheels? I can't tell by your avatar. I love 'em. They are light, strong and look sharp against the blue avant.

Not sure what we are doing about fueling just yet. Two tuning options with slightly different variations on fueling. Once we figure out who's going to tune the car we'll figure out the fueling. I am not terribly worried about it seeing as both tuners have done lots of research in this department and have a good handle on what will work to meet our power goals.

eastwick897

06-02-2009, 08:35 PM

nice car doug

Jake39454

06-03-2009, 03:25 PM

Ignore the crappy-ness of the cell phone pics, I figured it was better than nothing... Motor is broken down, ready for some work. Suprised to see such carbon buildup on the intake valves and pistons for such a low mileage motor... Anyways, everything went smoothly with the breakdown [cool].

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0603091339a.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0603091339.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/0603091338.jpg

CONTROL TWO

06-03-2009, 03:34 PM

keep the pics up! i love seeing these builds! [up]

317ssayzarc

06-03-2009, 04:05 PM

I will, it was pretty smooth sailing today. I've built a ton of 1.8T's and a 2.7T or two, in addition to quite a few other makes and models. But this was my first 2.0T, and I took note of a few things that I found interesting/not normal...

1) The pistons are remarkably similar to diesel pistons, and they actually protrude JUST past the deck at TDC (high compression)

2) Main caps are billet, which is totally badass

3) The oil pump is together with the balance shafts, and it's a stupidly complex setup. Luckily it was fairly easily removed in one piece

4) The intake manifold is one with the fuel rail, which is going to make making the new manifold suck. Most likely I will make a seperate bracket for holding the rail on the injectors and just build an intake manifold completely independent of the fuel system.

5) The cams are notched to allow access to the headbolts, and if the head is not at TDC you cannot remove the head. I already had the head on TDC though.

A4ringedONE8T

06-03-2009, 04:08 PM

317ssayzarc

06-03-2009, 04:12 PM

haha thats pretty close to the "WTF list" I mentally made when I built my first 2.0T the beginning of last year

[:D][up]

Btw here's today's fun fact... I called up Inskip Audi to ask for the price on an oil pump for the car, just wondering. $1500+ [o_o]

A4ringedONE8T

06-03-2009, 04:28 PM

[:D][up]

Btw here's today's fun fact... I called up Inskip Audi to ask for the price on an oil pump for the car, just wondering. $1500+ [o_o]

Oil pump hell, its like a block girdle. The damn thing is huge!

A4ringedONE8T

06-03-2009, 04:32 PM

Alot of the design ideas are extremely cool and well thought out, just surely different than the normal. The upper cam girdle part of the head that holds the cams in rather than the standard two bolt cam caps is a pretty cool design too. I just put Schrick cams in an E36 M3 the first of the week. Fu*king yielding cam cap M7 studs @ 11ftlbs is total crap. Surely makes me appreciate the new VW design!!!

Jake39454

06-03-2009, 04:36 PM

LOL... I honestly much prefer the 06A 1.8T design. The 058 is stupid and this new 2.0T is somewhere in the middle...

dougyfresh

06-03-2009, 05:24 PM

3) The oil pump is together with the balance shafts, and it's a stupidly complex setup. Luckily it was fairly easily removed in one piece

5) The cams are notched to allow access to the headbolts, and if the head is not at TDC you cannot remove the head. I already had the head on TDC though.

Balance shafts for dampening of engine harmonics. Guess due to the 'stroker design' is my guess. It is a huge complexity. Keep it together and just put it back in when the motor is built up.

I remember seeing those notches in the cams when I was studying an FSI motor at Bob's. Pretty cool but necessary given the head arrangement.

Give me a call tonight or tomorrow. [up]

Wizard-of-OD

06-03-2009, 08:06 PM

1.8T block stroked out + FSI head = simpler

317ssayzarc

06-03-2009, 08:32 PM

Oil and coolant ports match up Issam? Also is the B6 subframe different (will a B6 pan fit a B7 subframe)?

dougyfresh

06-04-2009, 04:23 AM

Oil and coolant ports match up Issam? Also is the B6 subframe different (will a B6 pan fit a B7 subframe)?

Could always physically put an 06A in the B7 chassis right now [;)] to test it out.

Jake39454

06-04-2009, 04:53 AM

Could always physically put an 06A in the B7 chassis right now [;)] to test it out.

This is true [:d]

A4ringedONE8T

06-04-2009, 05:53 AM

Oil and coolant ports match up Issam? Also is the B6 subframe different (will a B6 pan fit a B7 subframe)?

Did you see the B7 I posted a few months ago, FSI block with an AEB head?

dougyfresh

06-04-2009, 06:37 AM

Jake,
I have another 06A shortblock I'm going to bring down to the shop on Saturday. A customer of yours needs it.

Wizard-of-OD

06-04-2009, 08:36 AM

Did you see the B7 I posted a few months ago, FSI block with an AEB head?
Did you see the FSI head on the ABA block?[>_<]

djwimbo

06-04-2009, 08:57 AM

LOL... I honestly much prefer the 06A 1.8T design. The 058 is stupid and this new 2.0T is somewhere in the middle...

At least the balance shaft/s aren't intrusive in the crankcase though. 058 fail.

Any better pics of the sides of the engine? I've been doing as much research on these things as I can, VWoA info/tech doesn't give me the pics I want.

those stock rods are tiny BTW.

IIRC the 32valve Fords do the same thing with the head bolts and Cams. I know I've done an import engine or two that do that too. I think it was a Honda, but they cast the notch into the cam. Supposedly it's stronger than cutting it out of the cam.

Wizard-of-OD

06-04-2009, 09:02 AM

Any better pics of the sides of the engine? I've been doing as much research on these things as I can, VWoA info/tech doesn't give me the pics I want.
What pics you looking for Dan?

{PMS}fishy

06-04-2009, 09:14 AM

I'll be at the shop Saturday working on my B6 and will get some updates then.

I want a ride in that thing. Nice avant.

djwimbo

06-04-2009, 09:41 AM

What pics you looking for Dan?

Profile pics of the sides of the engine block. Better view of the mounting points, main cap splayed bolts, how much the balance shaft section protrudes, etc.

I'm interested in a few things, like similarities and differences from the A3/GTI/MKV, block interchangeability, and WTF is the deal with the twin balance shaft version?

Wizard-of-OD

06-04-2009, 10:06 AM

Profile pics of the sides of the engine block. Better view of the mounting points, main cap splayed bolts, how much the balance shaft section protrudes, etc.

I'm interested in a few things, like similarities and differences from the A3/GTI/MKV, block interchangeability, and WTF is the deal with the twin balance shaft version?
Ok you are talking about the 2009 TFSI motors.That is a whole new generation of VW/Audi motors.Nothing between 1976 and 2007 will work on these motors.

With every generation of VW/Audi motors there is always some sort of transition but I will discuss that later.

As for THIS motor (The B7 and the MKII TT/A3) the similarities are basically the block casting i.e. it is the same as the 1999-2005 06A 1.8T block.
The differences lie in the following:
* Oil feed for the turbocharger - now at the rear of the block vs the oil filter housing.
* Oil filter housing flange - completely different.
* Oil filter housing - Plastic trash vs cast aluminum found in the 1.8T
* Crankshaft caps - BILLET vs CAST in the 1.8T
* Oil pump - again different design with balance shafts and more
* Front crankshaft seal housing - now has a built in roller tensioner.

Are parts interchangeable? Yes[up]

dougyfresh

06-04-2009, 10:13 AM

Ok you are talking about the 2009 TFSI motors.That is a whole new generation of VW/Audi motors.Nothing between 1976 and 2007 will work on these motors.

With every generation of VW/Audi motors there is always some sort of transition but I will discuss that later.

As for THIS motor (The B7 and the MKII TT/A3) the similarities are basically the block casting i.e. it is the same as the 1999-2005 06A 1.8T block.
The differences lie in the following:
* Oil feed for the turbocharger - now at the rear of the block vs the oil filter housing.
* Oil filter housing flange - completely different.
* Oil filter housing - Plastic trash vs cast aluminum found in the 1.8T
* Crankshaft caps - BILLET vs CAST in the 1.8T
* Oil pump - again different design with balance shafts and more
* Front crankshaft seal housing - now has a built in roller tensioner.

Are parts interchangeable? Yes[up]

THAT is really cool to know. I was not aware they were interchangable. I thought the block was a completely separate casting than the 06A 1.8T block. Thanks for the info.

AudiA4_20T

06-04-2009, 10:26 AM

Jake, I assume your doing a catch-can setup to battle the carbon build up? Or possibly meth injection?

Geoffafa

06-04-2009, 10:36 AM

Is your car running the same wheels? I can't tell by your avatar. I love 'em. They are light, strong and look sharp against the blue avant.

Not sure what we are doing about fueling just yet. Two tuning options with slightly different variations on fueling. Once we figure out who's going to tune the car we'll figure out the fueling. I am not terribly worried about it seeing as both tuners have done lots of research in this department and have a good handle on what will work to meet our power goals.

Thanks for the info. [up]

I wish I had RGR's on my car. haha Those in my avi are the VMR V710, but they are already off my car and im rolling on Work VS-TX now.

actlsub9

06-04-2009, 10:37 AM

Jake, I assume your doing a catch-can setup to battle the carbon build up? Or possibly meth injection?
Jake's idea of a catch can...

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/181/straightsiliconerubbert.jpg

djwimbo

06-04-2009, 11:26 AM

Jake39454

06-04-2009, 04:49 PM

Jake's idea of a catch can...

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/181/straightsiliconerubbert.jpg

With a one way check valve [;)]

On this car we will be doing the pcv to the exhaust [cool]

Issam, cool info [up]

Wizard-of-OD

06-04-2009, 05:30 PM

That helps Issam.

slightly off topic, but I expect a full write up some day of info, interchangeability and facts to know about the 2.0T FSI vs the 2.0TSI.
I know the basics, but not the details.

2.0T FSI have 1 balance shaft and 2.0TSI has two, ... WTF?

I guess I still need more info on both.

... this thread can go back on topic now.
2.0 FSI - BPY/BMP have the balance shafts in the OIL PUMP whereas the 2.0 TFSI have the balance shafts in the BLOCK.

I have a thread to write up for Vortex comparing all the FSI heads but I just do not have time....
I find these days I am more repeating myself than referencing threads like I did in the past.
Hopefully that will all change soon.

djwimbo

06-04-2009, 05:50 PM

2.0 FSI - BPY/BMP have the balance shafts in the OIL PUMP whereas the 2.0 TFSI have the balance shafts in the BLOCK.

I have a thread to write up for Vortex comparing all the FSI heads but I just do not have time....
I find these days I am more repeating myself than referencing threads like I did in the past.
Hopefully that will all change soon.

The time you save will be worth the time set aside.

Hurry up man, I need techy/nerd material to fill my brain. The summer is driving me nuts.

dougyfresh

06-04-2009, 06:16 PM

Hurry up man, I need techy/nerd material to fill my brain. The summer is driving me nuts.

times two.

I tried searching the 2.0FSI forum but he's got a few screen names and I can't find it in 2minutes.

dougyfresh

06-07-2009, 07:08 PM

B7 motor is apart and at the machine shop:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2456/3602271560_e000c841c7.jpg
billet mains. mmm.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2468/3601459281_c8e42f42c2.jpg
2.0 FSI crankshaft

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/3602272934_2645a862fc.jpg
2.0 FSI factory pistons and connecting rods

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3596/3601459761_571e6a8981.jpg
2.0 FSI cylinder head waiting to be stripped and rebuilt with all new valves, valve springs, retainers, etc... Mmm... high-revving head.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3593/3602272708_95998494fd.jpg
box-o-parts

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3297/3602272364_b8a4381386.jpg
box-o-parts two

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3601460121_636deecc98.jpg
empty engine bay viewed from driver to passenger side

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/3602272172_48c327963b.jpg
driver side of engine bay

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3602266856_e84896853f.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3382/3601451973_8dd7cc6535.jpg

djwimbo

06-07-2009, 11:18 PM

Nice, did three of those exhaust studs break off in the head?

Any before and after measurements(weight) on the rod & piston combo? Stock vs Upgraded?

Jake39454

06-08-2009, 08:13 AM

They came out Dan, nut had more bite on the stud than the stud had on the head. As far as weight, I can take apart one of the stock combos and put em on the scale. All the aftermarkets will be weighed/balanced of course.

Jake39454

06-08-2009, 08:24 AM

And everybody wondering about the FSI, the 06F block casting is different than the 06A/06B, check out Doug's first picture for the differences. I have no idea what's going on in the TFSI but I can take plenty of pictures/notes on this FSI [cool].

eastwick897

06-08-2009, 09:11 AM

Wizard-of-OD

06-08-2009, 11:07 AM

When Stefan gets this valve cover he is going to freak.

sean1.8t

06-08-2009, 06:55 PM

how come every picture you guys take of the head, it's from the exhaust side? i wanna see what the intake ports look like. or possibly measurments?

and i spy Derek's S4 with the engine in it. how's the manifold fabbing coming?

dougyfresh

06-10-2009, 04:32 AM

FULL Ferrea 2.0FSI valvetrain (valves, springs, ti retainers, etc..) is on its way. So is a set of Schrick camshafts. Thanks Detusch Teile Haus!

Oh BOY. This is going to be fun!

slimmj0k3r

06-10-2009, 07:02 AM

this is sick [:D] [up]

Greg@DTH

06-10-2009, 07:53 AM

FULL Ferrea 2.0FSI valvetrain (valves, springs, ti retainers, etc..) is on its way. So is a set of Schrick camshafts.

Oh BOY. This is going to be fun!

Courtesy of the guys at DTH... [:D]

I hardly ever do this, but I am willing to do a group buy on them, since once set is already sold, four more of you guys can get a discount, chime in if you are interested.

http://www.shop.dthaus.com/product.sc?categoryId=89&productId=204
http://www.shop.dthaus.com/images/Schrick.png

http://www.shop.dthaus.com/product.sc?categoryId=89&productId=203
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg216/400HPA4/Ferrea.png

Greg@DTH

06-10-2009, 08:26 AM

Believe me, I am pretty damn jealous of the B7 owners right now. The Ferrea valvetrain set is purely phenomenal, included with the set are these incredible semi-solid lifter shims, which allow normal valvelash at idle, however above 6000 rpms, the lifters are pumped up to the point of near solid capabilities, allowing the motor to be revved well past 8,000 rpms.

Dr. Schrick has made two separate camshafts available to us, which are not sourced through US distribution channels, I would venture to state that we have an exclusive, however I have both grinds available to me right now.

The first grind is the "standard" 246/252 duration, the second grind available to us is a hotter 250/256 duration that really makes the head come alive at high rpms. Both grinds have an 11mm valve lift.

If anybody has any questions about building a FSI motor, please fee free to drop me a line, we can also build your head or shortblock if you would like.

Geoffafa

06-10-2009, 09:19 AM

i read in awe everyday too see the monster being built. can't wait to see the finished product guys! keep up the great work!

djwimbo

06-10-2009, 09:25 AM

That's an expensive top end.

Have I missed the FSI head flow numbers somewhere? Or what's it capable of once those cams are in?

Greg@DTH

06-10-2009, 09:38 AM

In my opinion, especially with the FSI, quality of parts should not be compromised. We all know that the motor has been susceptible to cam lobe failures with the high pressure fuel pump, we also know that even with basic programming, the motor is also susceptible to fuel cut.

I am not a big fan of using lower quality valves, springs, lifters or camshafts, each of these items are capable of catastrophic failure.

Believe it or not, there is much more profit available for tuners using the less expensive, lower quality parts.

slimmj0k3r

06-10-2009, 09:57 AM

FSI motor is still fairly new to tuners. IMO you don't wanna cut any corners...besides nobody said modding was cheap, especially when going BT with a fully built motor. [up]

dougyfresh

06-10-2009, 09:58 AM

I am not a big fan of using lower quality valves, springs, lifters or camshafts, each of these items are capable of catastrophic failure.

Agreed 100%

With any VAG motor I do not want to skip corners and sacrifice quality in parts. We are pushing these motors (1.8T and now 2.0FSI) pretty far from OEM and the littlest bit of non-conformance in the parts and out-of-tolerance in the assembly can be catastrophic. I have seen too many VAG motors blow due to faulty parts and faulty assembly.

Do it right. and do it once.

The good news is the customer agrees with the philosophy that myself and DO Werk abide by.

eastwick897

06-10-2009, 05:35 PM

Greg@DTH

06-10-2009, 06:30 PM

replied

djwimbo

06-10-2009, 06:49 PM

I agree, quality > quantity in my book.

There was just some shock value there. I like Schrick, but I doubt that I'll personally ever use their cams. Even for the E36's their cams are $1K, I should have known that a 2.0T FSI set would be more $$.

No arguments on the price of the valves and other incl equipment, that's worth the $.

A4 TSCHUSS

06-10-2009, 07:14 PM

Damn the FSI Schrick Cams are expensive! I though the Schricks I had were expensive for the B6 at $1000! They are all billet cams though (Schrick doesn't make cast cams).

dougyfresh

06-10-2009, 07:57 PM

Damn the FSI Schrick Cams are expensive! I though the Schricks I had were expensive for the B6 at $1000! They are all billet cams though (Schrick doesn't make cast cams).

They are also brand new and DTH [and their supplier] are the only source in the US as far as I know.

Price may come down with time, but who knows.

All I know is this car is going to scream!

Wizard-of-OD

06-10-2009, 08:02 PM

Damn the FSI Schrick Cams are expensive! I though the Schricks I had were expensive for the B6 at $1000! They are all billet cams though (Schrick doesn't make cast cams).
Expensive as hell!
Cant wait for CAT to come out with theres.

Greg@DTH

06-10-2009, 08:04 PM

I would not say I am the only source, that would definitely be an embellishment, however I am actively seeking to provide the best quality components to discerning buyers (sounds fancy huh?).

There are going to be many other components (from fully built heads, motors, internals and possibly turbo kits) available through DTH in the near future.

I was the first to offer OEM RS4 goodness to the B7 crowd back in 2005/6, long before the car hit the states and will continue the trend for you guys.

dougyfresh

06-10-2009, 08:09 PM

Greg.
Sent you an email. Think you can formulate a reply prior to tomorrow evening?

Thanks!
Doug

A4ringedONE8T

06-10-2009, 08:23 PM

Agreed 100%

With any VAG motor I do not want to skip corners and sacrifice quality in parts. We are pushing these motors (1.8T and now 2.0FSI) pretty far from OEM and the littlest bit of non-conformance in the parts and out-of-tolerance in the assembly can be catastrophic. I have seen too many VAG motors blow due to faulty parts and faulty assembly.

Do it right. and do it once.

The good news is the customer agrees with the philosophy that myself and DO Werk abide by.

There are plenty of quality parts other than the most expensive ones. The proper combination, most expensive or not for the application, and installed properly can all yield a strong and reliable motor.

95% of the time I read something you post it makes me laugh. WTF kind of comment is this?

"The good news is the customer agrees with the philosophy that myself and DO Werk abide by"

I personally think you are infatuated with yourself a bit too much

dougyfresh

06-10-2009, 08:59 PM

Shawn,
I have personally seen less expensive parts for these 1.8Ts and 2.0FSI motors fail in operation under loading as per designed. I have also seen less expensive parts shipped from the manufacturer NOT meeting quality standards. You tell me those parts are better? Sorry, I do not see it that way.

Keep in mind I do not make any money off of any thing related to this B7 project or anything associated with DO Werk Garage. I am doing this out of my own free will because it is something I enjoy.

A4ringedONE8T

06-10-2009, 09:06 PM

Shawn,
I have personally seen less expensive parts for these 1.8Ts and 2.0FSI motors fail in operation as well as be shipped from the manufacturer NOT meeting quality standards. You tell me those parts are better? Sorry, I do not see it that way.

Shit happens, thats pretty evident. This also happens with the best of companies. Do you want to tell me that Ferrari or Lambo never have a lemon of a car? They are indeed a "superior" car manufacturer correct? Everyone has F up's, everyone has faulty parts that slip through the cracks. If the motor is built properly and specs are checked of the parts being installed, those issues can be avoided a majority of the time.

dougyfresh

06-10-2009, 09:07 PM

Shit happens, thats pretty evident. This also happens with the best of companies. Do you want to tell me that Ferrari or Lamdo never have a lemon of a car? They are indeed a "superior" car manufacturer correct? Everyone has F up's, everyone has faulty parts that slip through the cracks. If the motor is built properly and specs are checked of the parts being installed, those issues can be avoided a majority of the time.

More than a handful of times? Sorry. That makes me loose faith in those companies.

A4ringedONE8T

06-10-2009, 09:12 PM

More than a handful of times? Sorry. That makes me loose faith in those companies.

Unless each one of these occurances were in front of your own eyes and in your presence for install, break-in, and failure, I'm sorry but there is always two sides to every story and it's much easier to blame "the other guy" no matter who or what was at fault.

Greg@DTH

06-10-2009, 09:12 PM

Greg.
Sent you an email. Think you can formulate a reply prior to tomorrow evening?

Thanks!
Doug

Working on it right now...thank you very much Doug [wrench]

Wizard-of-OD

06-10-2009, 09:15 PM

I have personally seen less expensive parts for these 1.8Ts and 2.0FSI motors fail in operation under loading as per designed.
Doug,
can you please disclose which parts you have seen fail and under what circumstances?
Thanks.

F16HTON

06-10-2009, 09:51 PM

Greg.
Sent you an email. Think you can formulate a reply prior to tomorrow evening?

Thanks!
Doug

quote sent

slimmj0k3r

06-11-2009, 05:11 AM

I personally think you are infatuated with yourself a bit too much

Not defending anyone, but some could easily say the same thing about you in regards to some of your postings as well.

A4ringedONE8T

06-11-2009, 05:27 AM

Not defending anyone, but some could easily say the same thing about you in regards to some of your postings as well.

Please find something I have posted that sounds as ridiculous as what he said. I never claim to have the best of anything, there will always be someone with something better. And hell what do I know, I have inferior JE's and Supertech components going in my motor [rolleyes]

dougyfresh

06-11-2009, 06:23 AM

quote sent

Thanks Greg. I'll get back to you.

slimmj0k3r

06-11-2009, 08:15 AM

I have inferior JE's and Supertech components going in my motor [rolleyes]

You don't make it hard for me to find something now do ya..[>_<]

Back on topic

build's coming along great guys keep up the good work!!

A4ringedONE8T

06-11-2009, 08:21 AM

You don't make it hard for me to find something now do ya..[>_<]

Back on topic

build's coming along great guys keep up the good work!!

Those components are garbage according to Doug, hence the reason I posted it.

dougyfresh

06-11-2009, 08:34 AM

Those components are garbage according to Doug, hence the reason I posted it.

I never once post up any reference to a specific company.

Here:

I am not a big fan of using lower quality valves, springs, lifters or camshafts, each of these items are capable of catastrophic failure.

Agreed 100%

With any VAG motor I do not want to skip corners and sacrifice quality in parts. We are pushing these motors (1.8T and now 2.0FSI) pretty far from OEM and the littlest bit of non-conformance in the parts and out-of-tolerance in the assembly can be catastrophic. I have seen too many VAG motors blow due to faulty parts and faulty assembly.

Do it right. and do it once.

The good news is the customer agrees with the philosophy that myself and DO Werk abide by.

I don't see any names of any suppliers. Please stop your personal attacks against me.

feles

06-11-2009, 08:57 AM

This thread needs less drama and more engine porn.

A4ringedONE8T

06-11-2009, 09:02 AM

I don't see any names of any suppliers. Please stop your personal attacks against me.

I apologize, you did not name a certain company however it is not hard to put two and two together and figure out what you are referring to. Especially knowing what products you have used in the past and now your views on them.

A4 TSCHUSS

06-11-2009, 09:25 AM

I never once post up any reference to a specific company.

Here:

I don't see any names of any suppliers. Please stop your personal attacks against me.

What are the things available? Supertech or Ferrea for valves are the most common used right? My mad inference skills say you must be saying Supertech is shit since Ferrea cost more. No need for naming of companies since there are a whole two or three of them that people use. There is Rosten or Techtonics but you don't hear much about them.

mike-2ptzero

06-11-2009, 09:39 AM

What are the things available? Supertech or Ferrea for valves are the most common used right? My mad inference skills say you must be saying Supertech is shit since Ferrea cost more. No need for naming of companies since there are a whole two or three of them that people use. There is Rosten or Techtonics but you don't hear much about them.

You left out Eurospec

http://www.eurospecsport.com/products/components/valvetrain.htm

A4 TSCHUSS

06-11-2009, 09:49 AM

My bad, but the point is, every where you look you see either Supertech or Ferrea so I would be willing to bet alot that those were the ones in question and Doug is saying he will only run Ferrea. I could be wrong but I am gonna go with "I highly doubt it."

A4ringedONE8T

06-11-2009, 09:49 AM

You left out Eurospec

http://www.eurospecsport.com/products/components/valvetrain.htm

Who runs that junk? [:p]

mike-2ptzero

06-11-2009, 09:57 AM

Who runs that junk? [:p]

Who knows, but then I am sure there are plenty of people that dont know its junk and end up buying it. It isn't like 100% of the A4 1.8t owners in this world are members of this forum..

Plenty of shops sell "no name" products.

greg@dubaudi

06-11-2009, 10:38 AM

nice build guys im saving cash to do something like this very soon.....
BTW Greg is the man got all my RS4 parts from him
Do work

Greg@DTH

06-11-2009, 05:34 PM

Thank you very much Greg, I appreciate the kind words.

I used to be very heavy in te B7 market, being the first company in America to introduce the RS4 pedal set, RS4 steering wheels, RS4 brake setup, Phantom Black Grills, DTM Body Kits (yes, before there was the B7 S4 here, DTM Spoilers and all the rest of the goodies.

Being activated for Army (Operation Enduring Freedom) really consumed the extra time I needed to keep up with the B7 crowd.

I do thank all of my previous customers and promise to have many more exciting items in the near future.

DoWerk

iloveturbos

06-12-2009, 06:28 PM

This thread needs less drama and more engine porn.

I agree.

doctorheine

06-12-2009, 09:23 PM

engine pornnnnnnnn!

quattrosaint

06-12-2009, 09:24 PM

engine pornnnnnnnn!

Nice of you to join us!

F16HTON

06-12-2009, 09:27 PM

Customer car installed the 250/256 cams and 1mm oversize valves, picked up 60WHP on APR Stage III, I'll see if he will let me post up the dyno.

Jake39454

06-26-2009, 11:12 AM

This thread needs less drama and more engine porn.

Here you go [up]

Intercooler arrived.

Raw material for the piping and end tanks is on order.

http://solidflow.net/build/g1.jpg

http://solidflow.net/build/g2.jpg
BlackBerry had to show itself again [:D]

http://solidflow.net/build/g3.jpg

http://solidflow.net/build/g4.jpg

http://solidflow.net/build/g5.jpg

http://solidflow.net/build/g6.jpg

freeflow

06-26-2009, 11:38 AM

^^ very niceeee.

http://www.craphound.com/images/creepyjackomask.jpg

ataylor

06-26-2009, 11:58 AM

^^ very niceeee.

oh come on, too early!

Hyphy

06-26-2009, 11:59 AM

^^ very niceeee.

http://www.craphound.com/images/creepyjackomask.jpg

lol.[rolleyes]

mike-2ptzero

06-26-2009, 12:56 PM

Nice, thats a 925hp core. A bit over kill wouldn't you say seeing that the core is good for around 1000hp?

Sal_B7

06-26-2009, 01:10 PM

bye bye crash bar [o_o]

eastwick897

06-26-2009, 01:12 PM

that is one monsertous intercooler.

A4ringedONE8T

06-26-2009, 01:16 PM

Nice, thats a 925hp core. A bit over kill wouldn't you say seeing that the core is good for around 1000hp?

It's only an inch taller than the Precision 750 core, all other dimensions are identical. You sure on the 925? (I'm not going to take the time to look myself just asking [;)])

Insane_Audi

06-26-2009, 01:17 PM

bye bye crash bar [o_o]

x2, better hope you dont need the front of your car if you crash

A4ringedONE8T

06-26-2009, 01:20 PM

x2, better hope you dont need the front of your car if you crash

You could fit it back on if you wanted with some minor modification. I didn't care either, my crash bar is sitting on the shelf here at the shop

For a comparison to how big that core is on the car, this is a Precision 750, same exact dimensions except for that Garrett core is 12" tall instead of 11"

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/a4ringedone8t/B7/DSC06820resized.jpg

ataylor

06-26-2009, 01:27 PM

You could fit it back on if you wanted with some minor modification. I didn't care either, my crash bar is sitting on the shelf here at the shop

If the crash bar can be re-implemented with minor modification around these cores, are you going to eventually do so? I hope so..

Love,
Mom
xoxoxo

slimmj0k3r

06-26-2009, 01:28 PM

It's only an inch taller than the Precision 750 core, all other dimensions are identical. You sure on the 925? (I'm not going to take the time to look myself just asking [;)])

garrett rates that core @ 925 i believe (i looked [>_<])

dougyfresh

06-26-2009, 02:06 PM

Pretty sure this will fit with very little modification as Shawn mentioned. The B7 has a lot more room than the B6.

freeflow

06-26-2009, 02:37 PM

oh come on, too early!

[>_<] i kno i kno sorry... did some googling earlier and came across it

mike-2ptzero

06-26-2009, 10:37 PM

It's only an inch taller than the Precision 750 core, all other dimensions are identical. You sure on the 925? (I'm not going to take the time to look myself just asking [;)])

That core is nearly 2" taller then mine and I have the 800hp Garrett core. Believe me I looked it up before I posted the number.[:p]

I wouldn't put that core on a car unless its making 700+whp and that means pushing that HTA35r at 40+psi.

IceMole

10-01-2009, 05:23 AM

Bump for updates/pics [:)]

dougyfresh

10-01-2009, 07:13 AM

Engine is currently being assembled and should be back in the car soon. Then its fab time for the FMIC and intake manifold and stuff...

We had some delays on engine parts which set us back a little bit. Story of the summer of 2009...

ataylor

10-01-2009, 07:40 AM

dougyfresh

10-01-2009, 08:29 AM

Do you have anything to send me? I know.. it's a PITA [:/]

I'll send you an email tonight. Is that cool? You need pics too?

I was out mountain biking and hanging out with the GF last night. Tonight's my night to catch up on more email and stuff around the house. I'll get that list to you.

ataylor

10-01-2009, 12:03 PM

I'll send you an email tonight. Is that cool? You need pics too?

I was out mountain biking and hanging out with the GF last night. Tonight's my night to catch up on more email and stuff around the house. I'll get that list to you.

I can take pics from here on the 'zine, and Stephen said he'd be sending some (but I know he's real busy), and if you want to attach some of your fav's that would be very helpful [up] thx!

dougyfresh

12-03-2009, 06:28 AM

Been a little while. Thought I would provide an update. Sorry, no pictures. Focus has been on getting stuff done..

~ Shrick Cams arrived
~ machine work on motor is complete.
~ head and block are individually assembled.
~ awaiting various gaskets for final engine assembly.
~ beautiful PagParts V-Band cast exhaust manifold has arrived (one of two in existence for the B7).
~ RAI exhaust has arrived (we have mixed feelings about this, should have been a full 3inch from cat-back to tips but it actually tapers down to smaller piping)
~ once motor is back in the car the fab work can begin on the downpipe and FMIC
~ new intake manifold is in the works
~ Autospeed Performance is tuning the car

viziers

12-03-2009, 06:44 AM

ataylor

12-03-2009, 06:53 AM

Hey Doug - do you have some more pics for me? Jake said you had some higher quality / professionally edited shots?

you got my gMail, feel free to flood it

Jake39454

12-03-2009, 07:00 AM

Will be starting a new thread, I'll make my last post in this one and leave you with some teasers:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/1127091809.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/1127091803.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0065.jpg

ataylor

12-03-2009, 07:09 AM

jake take some time off from being the man, and send me some shit so I can show off all this great work ;) !!

eastwick897

12-03-2009, 10:21 AM

You really have to get that new thread up. I'm so curious to see all the pics.

slimmj0k3r

12-03-2009, 12:46 PM

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/1127091803.jpg

what am i looking at! ahhhhh i can't figure that one out

wait i figured it out. ninja edit status!

Sales@RAI

12-03-2009, 12:53 PM

Doug I'll give u a call in a few

Vorsprung

12-03-2009, 02:13 PM

what am i looking at! ahhhhh i can't figure that one out

wait i figured it out. ninja edit status!

what is it? [confused]