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nova_ss672001
02-22-2009, 04:23 PM
ok so im in the process of throwing in my Southbend stg.3 clutch but the bolts from the passenger side drive axl heat shield are stripped i got one off but the middle and left one are just really f-ed up....its kinda in a tight spot so what would you guys use to get these bolts off? i tried vice grtips but they are too big...? thanx in advance..

iloveturbos
02-22-2009, 04:25 PM
Try hammering a 12 point socket over the allen or a torx bit into the middle of the allen, usually does the trick.

blmlozz
02-22-2009, 04:26 PM
you could also head up to autozone or sears and buy a bolt extractor kit.. same principal as above but they're razor sharp, making insertion much easier, and they're made of harder steel tool.

nova_ss672001
02-22-2009, 04:29 PM
around how much will that run me?

blmlozz
02-22-2009, 04:30 PM
around how much will that run me?

autozone, mabye $30.
Sears mabye $40-50..

I have just 1 size set(they're ususaly sold as half a set to make you buy two) and it's saved me probaly more times than I can count.


They're a bit bigger than the bolt so make sure you have room around the allen before purchasing the set you need. If you haven't already, removal of the down pipe will help.

if this dosen't help or it looks like they're going to be too big.. Try a size/half size bigger allen and hammer it in.. then pray. Otherwise get the carbon disc cutter out.

nova_ss672001
02-22-2009, 04:34 PM
well i took off the Labree but to take down the down pipe means dropping the whole exhaust, cuz i custom 2.5" all the way back...

blmlozz
02-22-2009, 04:39 PM
well i took off the Labree but to take down the down pipe means dropping the whole exhaust, cuz i custom 2.5" all the way back...

I tried to take off the tranny w/o taking off the exhaust, and if it hasen't already hit you then it's very much a PITA.. it might be worth taking it off so you can get these allens off since you're probaly going to get 1 good shot. Sucks to hear, but when shit goes wrong it usualys goes wrong for the worst it seems with VAG cars.

4inchMAF
02-22-2009, 04:47 PM
Try hammering a 12 point socket over the allen or a torx bit into the middle of the allen, usually does the trick.

exactly what i was going to say...this works for me every time....

speedydragon
02-22-2009, 04:51 PM
or dremel the top and use a flathead screwdriver to get it out

nova_ss672001
02-22-2009, 04:57 PM
i am positive i can drop the tranny w/o dropping the whole exhaust..ill give it a try hopefully i get it down today re-surface my fw tom and then put it back together on tues or weds.....
i am so close i just need these 2 bolts and the 3 bottom ones witch i left in there to keep it up or some support...

Poopie
02-22-2009, 05:36 PM
dropping the exhaust takes 20 minutes and makes lining up the tranny so much easier. i'm pretty sure the stock cat makes getting to one of the bell housing bolts suck. i usually pull the exaust off from the turbo back.

AudiA4_20T
02-22-2009, 06:23 PM
honestly, the bolt extractor kit will take you 5 min and be super easy, its what I use

Poopie
02-22-2009, 08:07 PM
honestly, the bolt extractor kit will take you 5 min and be super easy, its what I use

yup, they go on sale at sears from time to time. great kit.

biketsai
02-22-2009, 08:16 PM
Are you dropping your trans on a lift or on jack stands?

nova_ss672001
02-22-2009, 08:27 PM
its on jackstands wish i had access to a lift though...

mike-2ptzero
02-22-2009, 08:40 PM
i am positive i can drop the tranny w/o dropping the whole exhaust..ill give it a try hopefully i get it down today re-surface my fw tom and then put it back together on tues or weds.....
i am so close i just need these 2 bolts and the 3 bottom ones witch i left in there to keep it up or some support...

Did you spin the axle/wheel so that you can put the bolts in a spot where you can get the vise grip on them just like you did on the bolt you did remove?

nova_ss672001
02-22-2009, 09:09 PM
well the bolt i got out wasn't stripped and got it off with a allen socket and wrench...

ohh and its not the axel bolts, those i got off w/o a problem, the ones im working on are the heat shield bolts...

mike-2ptzero
02-22-2009, 09:21 PM
Just rip it off because you dont even really need that heat shield that sits over the axle.

nova_ss672001
02-22-2009, 09:43 PM
well its the one mounted on the tranny?
and the bolts are pretty thick soo i think id rather un-bolt it off?

iloveturbos
02-22-2009, 10:01 PM
take a long extension, torx socket thats a little bit to big to fit in the allen and hit it into the allen with a hammer and you'll be golden. you can buy an extractor kit but its not really necessary. i have one and hardly ever use it. and if you use the torx you can then re-use that same bolt and tighten it with the torx because it actually forms the inside of the allen bolt to a torx shape, where as if you use the extractor you cannot do that. just try it and you'll be fine.

nova_ss672001
02-22-2009, 10:12 PM
ok but whats the huge extension for?
i cant even get a short extension across? i get the hammering the torx in there but yea ill see tomorrow, didnt have time today so yea...i need to get my ride on the streets asap...haha i miss this bitch already...lol

blmlozz
02-23-2009, 08:55 AM
ok but whats the huge extension for?
i cant even get a short extension across? i get the hammering the torx in there but yea ill see tomorrow, didnt have time today so yea...i need to get my ride on the streets asap...haha i miss this bitch already...lol

if you have problems with it again, with a big enough extension you can gain access to those bolts from outside the frame, as if the wheel were off and you were on the outside of the car, from the control arm area through the frame opening to the bolts. Thats how I got them off on my S4. The big extension gives you more tq power so they come off easier with less stripping issues.

nova_ss672001
02-23-2009, 02:01 PM
ok so i got one of the bolts off but when i was taking off the second one the whole plate snaped off....hopefully like MIKe said its not really necssary to have it there but yea ill post some pics up like in an hour...

nova_ss672001
02-23-2009, 04:07 PM
see were its cracked on the left side were the bolt would go?and this is the part I was talking about, it is a heat shield right? hoipefully?:
http://www.audiforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=326&pictureid=3815

my bro had this magical tool laying around and it helped me get one of the bolts out, the middle one to be exact...:
http://www.audiforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=326&pictureid=3813

heres another pic of the part:
http://www.audiforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=326&pictureid=3814

here is a picture w/o that heat shield part thing...and the bolt stuck on the bottom left...
http://www.audiforums.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=326&pictureid=3816

nova_ss672001
02-23-2009, 11:57 PM
ok so that is a heat shield but is it really necessary? it looks important but idk?
bump

Kyle H
02-24-2009, 12:14 AM
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/351c45f6.jpg

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/snowmanhitman/DSC00653.jpg



no need for an explanation [;)]

TeeterTawter
02-24-2009, 07:43 AM
i stripped the axel bolts when i did mine, used a torch and vice grips. came out real easy

nova_ss672001
02-24-2009, 01:58 PM
one more question,
I removed both starter bolts that are attached to the bell housing,
does the starter need to completely come off or can i just now lower the tranny?
all other bolts are removed and gone so the tranny is now only geing supported by teh jack?

TIA