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Wizard-of-OD
01-27-2009, 10:45 AM
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PSA : PLEASE USE THIS THREAD TO ASK ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON YOUR MIND.WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON KNOWLEDGE SHARING SO DO NOT HESITATE TO ASK (no matter how dumb YOU think the question is.)

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Since the introduction of the 1.8T engine in North America,sourcing stroker kits have been limited to 1 source.
Fast forward a couple of years and we are now able to offer you every possible configuration that your heart desires :cool:

Combinations range all the way from 1803cc's to 2190cc's!

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1803CC KIT - MAHLE PISTONS
This is the introductory level kit for those of you who want to do a simple hone on a tired block.This kit includes Mahle Pistons which are superior in design & construction when compared to anything else on the market.
Kit includes:
(4) - SCAT 144mm/20mm Forged Connecting Rods
(4) - 81.5mm Mahle Forged Pistons w/ 9:1 Nominal Compression Ratio

$999.99 + Shipping


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1803CC KIT - JE PISTONS
This is the introductory level kit for those of you who want to do a simple hone on a tired block but with the more affordable JE Pistons.
Kit includes:
(4) - SCAT 144mm/20mm Forged Connecting Rods
(4) - 81.5mm JE Forged Pistons w/ 9:1 Nominal Compression Ratio

$969.99 + Shipping


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1870CC KIT
For the user looking to really *open* up his block.Very popular kit amongst those users looking to increase displacement without changing the stroke.
Kit includes:
(4) - SCAT 144mm/20mm Forged Connecting Rods
(4) - 83mm JE Forged Pistons w/ the following choices of nominal compression ratio:
* 9.5:1
* 9:1
* 8.5:1
*** 83.5mm Pistons available upon request ***

$969.99 + Shipping


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2008CC KIT
http://www.034motorsport.com/oscthumbwm/w/700/h/700/q/95/f/jpg/fltr/wmi|phpThumb/watermarks/034watermark|C|20|0/hash/a4e06a0595f3bdbbe188bf63cba341ae/src/images/2L_Stroker_Kit.jpg
The most popular kit of the lot for the 06A block,a full "2.0" kit using a Forged OEM crankshaft from the 2.0FSI motor along with OEM quality Forged Supertech Pistons.
Kit includes:
(1) - 92.8mm Forged 2.0 FSI Forged Crankshaft with correct Oil Pump gear to utilise the stock 1.8T oil pump
(4) - SCAT 144mm/20mm Forged Connecting Rods
(4) - 83mm Supertech Forged Pistons w/ 8.9:1 nominal Compression Ratio (82.5mm bore available upon request)

$1699.99 + Shipping


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2190CC KIT
NOT FOR THE SOFT!!!
This is a kit for the very serious VW/Audi owner who wants a manly 100mm stroke crankshaft & paper thin cylinder walls.
Kit requires the purchase of the ALH 236mm TDI block.
Kit includes:
(1) - 100mm Eurospec Forged Crankshaft with correct Oil Pump gear to utilise the stock 1.8T oil pump
(4) - SCAT 159mm/21mm Forged Connecting Rods
(4) - 83.5mm JE Forged Pistons w/ 9.5:1 nominal Compression Ratio
(10) - ARP 12mm Head studs to allow the use of a 20V head on an ALH block

$2699.99 + Shipping


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INDIVIDUAL PARTS:

http://www.034motorsport.com/oscthumbwm/w/500/h/476/q/95/f/jpg/fltr/wmi|phpThumb/watermarks/034watermark|C|20|0/hash/30e9cc3a4e7aa851ab4284ec23ffad4d/src/images/MainGirdleKit_18ta.jpg
Main Bearing Girdle Kit - 058 Block $480 + Shipping
Main Bearing Girdle Kit - 06A/06B Block $580 + Shipping

http://www.034motorsport.com/images/Main_Caps_1.jpg
Billet Main Bearing Caps: - $139 + Shipping

AEB MACHINED IM SHAFT - $105 + Shipping
034 Motorsport Anti-Friction Main & Connecting Rod Bearings - $215 + Shipping
BIG BORE Head Gasket - $95 + Shipping
ARP Main Stud Kit - $135 + Shipping
ARP Head Bolt kit - 06A - 10mm - $175 + Shipping

2.0 ABA FORGED - 058 - 92.8mm crankshaft - $375 + Shipping
2.0 AEG CAST -06A - 92.8mm crankshaft - $375 + Shipping
2.0 TFSI FORGED - 06A - 92.8mm crankshaft - $874.99 + Shipping
Supertech 82.5mm/83mm Pistons - $589.99 + Shipping
SCAT Forged Connecting Rods - $369.99 + Shipping!!
PAUTER Forged Connecting Rods - $779.99 + Shipping!!
PAUTER Forged Connecting Rods w/forced pin oiling - $939.99 + Shipping!!
RACEWARE Head Stud Kit - 10mm/11mm - $469.99 + Shipping

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Please send me a PM when you are ready to order and please select which displacement you desire ;)
Thanks :beer:

p.s. Some assembly may be required :laugh:

JumboBlack1.8
01-27-2009, 11:17 AM
Nice prices!

But I am still wondering about the 95.5mm TDI crank in an 06a block.....assuming one was to use the 144mm Rods, what is the appropriate piston height for this combination? And what kind of machining is necessary to shorten the crank. All I've read is that one would need our 1.8T oil pump gear and 60-2 crank sensor ring....true? false?

Sorry if these questions fall outside the purpose of the thread

Don Supreme
01-27-2009, 11:23 AM
hmmmmm no stroker kits of the 058a huh???

Wizard-of-OD
01-27-2009, 11:30 AM
Nice prices!

But I am still wondering about the 95.5mm TDI crank in an 06a block.....assuming one was to use the 144mm Rods, what is the appropriate piston height for this combination? And what kind of machining is necessary to shorten the crank. All I've read is that one would need our 1.8T oil pump gear and 60-2 crank sensor ring....true? false?

Sorry if these questions fall outside the purpose of the thread
Those are fine!
I didnt include the 95.5mm stroker kit because it is not a popular seller with the 1.8T crowd.Maybe in a couple of years [;)]
I am actually building a custom 2.1 short block for a customer right now using an ALH crank & stroker pistons.
With 144mm + 95.5mm crank in a 220mm 06A block you are looking @ a compression height of : 28.25mm
The ALH Cranks allready have the correct oil pump gear on them.VW only changed the design of the oil pump in the later 2.0 MKIV bettles & MKV GTI.


hmmmmm no stroker kits of the 058a huh???
...forgot to add that

ABA Crank + MACHINED IM SHAFT + SCAT RODS + Supertech Stroker pistons = 1429.99

JumboBlack1.8
01-27-2009, 11:49 AM
Thanks for the info Issam!!! I'll definitely be going the 2.1 route when the time comes, so that info is very useful.....I'm lovin this thread already!

jrock
01-27-2009, 06:37 PM
How much for an 058 95.5mm stroker kit?

blmlozz
01-27-2009, 06:40 PM
makes me wish I hadden't left the 1.8T scene. Where's the APB love?!!?!

AudiTurbo
01-27-2009, 06:42 PM
058a? What does that bring it to? Sorry for the dumb question

JumboBlack1.8
01-27-2009, 06:59 PM
058a? What does that bring it to? Sorry for the dumb question

read these to start:
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188078
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187836

AudiTurbo
01-27-2009, 07:03 PM
Well thank you, but a simple answer would of been ok.
Thanks for the reading material though

jrock
01-27-2009, 07:05 PM
Dont know what the hell im doing wrong but i cant calculate it right now.

jrock
01-27-2009, 07:12 PM
Roughly 2091cc if im right with 83.5mm pistons. Which i am probably not.

Wizard-of-OD
01-27-2009, 11:15 PM
How much for an 058 95.5mm stroker kit?
At that point you might as well run an ABA or TDI block....
The only 95.5mm crank that will work for you is the AAZ and those are hard to find new.

makes me wish I hadden't left the 1.8T scene. Where's the APB love?!!?!
It there
send me a PM if your interested [>_<]

jrock
01-28-2009, 07:32 AM
i figured. i guess i will just have to go w/ the 92.8 stroker kit. unfortunately cant afford it right now

B5A4Kevin
01-28-2009, 09:59 AM
thanks issam for putting it all in one place for us. i think ill be going the route of rods/aeb pistons when i upgrade, but if i come into a substantial amount of fund-age, i will be coming to you guys for a vr6t buildup....

Wizard-of-OD
01-28-2009, 05:50 PM
thanks issam for putting it all in one place for us. i think ill be going the route of rods/aeb pistons when i upgrade, but if i come into a substantial amount of fund-age, i will be coming to you guys for a vr6t buildup....
Watch this space for V5 Turbo crate motors.[>_<]

Wizard-of-OD
02-09-2009, 05:15 PM
All PM's replied to [drive][up]

ghost6303
02-09-2009, 05:34 PM
1- any ETA on 11mm ARP head studs? i know i asked you before and you said a few months but its rapidly getting closer to when im going to be needing those.

2- how much are you charging to do IM shaft machining if i send mine to you, or do a core charge swap thing?

3- those billet main bearing caps would require line boring/honing correct?

sprAfour
02-09-2009, 05:40 PM
any chance of a 2.8 kit coming out for the 30 v !?!??

AudiA4_20T
02-09-2009, 05:55 PM
any chance of a 2.8 kit coming out for the 30 v !?!??

what would you do it for? They have stuff for the V6 already

sprAfour
02-09-2009, 07:45 PM
for engine upgrades? i havent seen anything

Toyotatech
02-10-2009, 04:34 PM
Is it possible to get different rods (Carrillo) and pistons (Weisco or JE) in the 058 kit at a different price?

Wizard-of-OD
02-10-2009, 07:55 PM
1- any ETA on 11mm ARP head studs? i know i asked you before and you said a few months but its rapidly getting closer to when im going to be needing those.

2- how much are you charging to do IM shaft machining if i send mine to you, or do a core charge swap thing?

3- those billet main bearing caps would require line boring/honing correct?
1. We have 2 sets of Racewares @ a really good deal if you want.
2. Core swap + 105US
3. Correct [>_<]

We can offer Wiseco & Carillo combinations.Simply send me a PM as I dont want to defer from the main products we offer.

Wizard-of-OD
04-05-2009, 10:13 AM
All PM's replied to [drive] [race][up]
Thanks for the awesome support everyone.We are working on some new pieces for 2009 that will really make you salivate [>_<]

a4mafia(Red)
04-06-2009, 12:57 AM
if someone were to get the 2.0 stroker for the 058 block and also buy cams, exhaust valves, valve springs, retainers, and other parts for the head....would they need tuning to install and run this?


NOOB [:p]

Wizard-of-OD
04-11-2009, 04:45 AM
if someone were to get the 2.0 stroker for the 058 block and also buy cams, exhaust valves, valve springs, retainers, and other parts for the head....would they need tuning to install and run this?


NOOB [:p]
I would recommend it[;)]

Wizard-of-OD
05-14-2009, 06:25 PM
All PM's replied to [drive] [race][up]
Thanks for the awesome support everyone.We are working on some new pieces for 2009 that will really make you salivate [>_<]

somebody5788
05-14-2009, 07:15 PM
So I have a spare 1.8t and a spare 1.9 TDI sitting in the shop..... What can I do? The TDI had a valve go through the piston (literally) and the 1.8t the dealer told him the engine was bad so we got him a new one even though we drove it in and it didn't knock. Whats the cheapest way to do something to this engine?

Wizard-of-OD
05-14-2009, 07:46 PM
So I have a spare 1.8t and a spare 1.9 TDI sitting in the shop..... What can I do? The TDI had a valve go through the piston (literally) and the 1.8t the dealer told him the engine was bad so we got him a new one even though we drove it in and it didn't knock. Whats the cheapest way to do something to this engine?

Which codes on the engines?
AEB and ALH or AWM and ALH?

somebody5788
05-14-2009, 07:53 PM
Which codes on the engines?
AEB and ALH or AWM and ALH?

The 1.8t is an ATW according to the head there are pix in the link for it in my sig. I really need to find out what the TDI is though.

Edit: the 1.8t was also out of an 01

Wizard-of-OD
05-20-2009, 12:52 AM
The 1.8t is an ATW according to the head there are pix in the link for it in my sig. I really need to find out what the TDI is though.

Edit: the 1.8t was also out of an 01

Put the ALH crank into the ATW block.Thats what I would do.

Wizard-of-OD
06-04-2009, 09:00 AM
Special on for the Month of June!

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=289049

A4SoftWalker
06-08-2009, 12:38 PM
Does anyone have a rough guesstimate of the cost to install the 2.0 stroker kit with the crank and rods??? Not including all the extra parts like bushings ... etc???

LedFtDrvr
06-08-2009, 01:54 PM
If you were in Orange County... It would be 40/hr[wrench]

A4SoftWalker
06-08-2009, 05:28 PM
If you were in Orange County... It would be 40/hr[wrench]

Ok that's a start up here we are looking at like 100-140/hr.

I need a better scope. How many hours does this job take?

Am I better off building up another block on the side and just paying to have that swapped in directly?

Wizard-of-OD
06-09-2009, 03:53 PM
Ok that's a start up here we are looking at like 100-140/hr.

I need a better scope. How many hours does this job take?

Am I better off building up another block on the side and just paying to have that swapped in directly?
Average 8 hours to remove and disassemble motor and 8 hours to put it back together.That does not include the machine work.

Do it yourself...if you are on a forum then you are more than capable.[up]

djwimbo
06-09-2009, 03:58 PM
Ok that's a start up here we are looking at like 100-140/hr.

F- That. Find a friend or another forum member in the area that's willing to help you out.

I don't know anyone in that area, otherwise I'd point you in the right direction. All the people I know are on this side of the Mississippi pretty much.

Wizard-of-OD
06-09-2009, 05:31 PM
Guys is there anything you would like us to update in this thread?

LedFtDrvr
06-10-2009, 09:16 AM
How about pricing on AEG cast crank, pauters, 83mm JE? Kinda like the 2008cc

I dont think i'd need it for high 300whp to 400 whp

Wizard-of-OD
06-10-2009, 07:59 PM
How about pricing on AEG cast crank, pauters, 83mm JE? Kinda like the 2008cc

I dont think i'd need it for high 300whp to 400 whp
You dont need Pauters for 400whp but if you must pricing will be : 1799 SHIPPED.

Wizard-of-OD
07-13-2009, 03:24 PM
All PM's replied![up]

pja0750
07-13-2009, 04:29 PM
I might have to look at that machined IM shaft do you have any pics of that? Its machined cause the ABA crank would hit it right? Just making sure!

Wizard-of-OD
07-15-2009, 07:14 PM
I might have to look at that machined IM shaft do you have any pics of that? Its machined cause the ABA crank would hit it right? Just making sure!

Correct,
the rear gear is machined to clearance the #4 Connecting rod cap.

Wizard-of-OD
11-17-2009, 08:23 PM
Just because people have questions [up]

-03 tq
09-29-2010, 12:32 PM
Does Wiseco have 83 or 83.5mm pistons for used with ABA crank? Got the crank(sourced) and eagle rods allready, but I would like to know wiseco kit# if they ever made such a kit.

Wizard-of-OD
09-29-2010, 12:35 PM
Blast from the past!
This needs to be updated!

Does Wiseco have 83 or 83.5mm pistons for used with ABA crank? Got the crank(sourced) and eagle rods allready, but I would like to know wiseco kit# if they ever made such a kit.
Wiseco does not stock stroker pistons. We can get them but I would rather go with JE as they are much more user friendly as a company.

-03 tq
09-29-2010, 12:42 PM
ok, how much for set of JE`s shipped to Finland with IM shaft and headgasket?

quattro85
01-15-2011, 06:51 PM
Blast from the past!
This needs to be updated!

Wiseco does not stock stroker pistons. We can get them but I would rather go with JE as they are much more user friendly as a company.

But what I know JE used 2618 alloy for their stroker pistons, and as I know they are not very suitable for DD car.

latinlovr_ny
07-14-2013, 07:08 AM
Hey are these still available. I'm interested on the 2190CC KIT or if u suggest something better. Also wanted to know which timing belts to use, I heard they are hard to find. Also will the engine mounts line up if change the block which is required for This setup

Seerlah
07-14-2013, 07:21 AM
Not to be rude, but you need to do more research if you are asking those types of questions. Same TB as the stock engine along with it lining up with the engine mounts. You are only changing the internals of the short block, nothing external. And I do hope you know what goes into an engine build. Even if having a shop do it, they don't always (like...never) go as smooth as one would want.

latinlovr_ny
07-14-2013, 09:44 AM
Hey are these still available. I'm interested on the 2190CC KIT or if u suggest something better. Also wanted to know which timing belts to use, I heard they are hard to find. Also will the engine mounts line up if change the block which is required for This setup

latinlovr_ny
07-14-2013, 01:21 PM
If u noticed the build I'm doing requires a 2.0 block with the 1.8 block. Some people need to mind their own.

coolgraymemo
07-14-2013, 01:26 PM
How are you going to use two blocks at once?

latinlovr_ny
07-14-2013, 02:01 PM
1.8 head 2.0 block

Seerlah
07-14-2013, 02:32 PM
If u noticed the build I'm doing requires a 2.0 block with the 1.8 block. Some people need to mind their own.

If this is pertaining to me, you need to search stuff like this on your own instead of posting in an old ass thread from a person who is no longer an advertiser. Doubt you will even get a response from him till a couple weeks (if that) until he notices this thread bumped from just venturing in here.

What engine code short block you going to use? I would personally bore out your current block. That is what these kits were intended for. Hope you don't think you required a 2.0 original block to do this.

latinlovr_ny
07-14-2013, 03:31 PM
Look at 2190cc Kit, it requires an alh tdi block

Seerlah
07-14-2013, 04:42 PM
Take your panties from being bunched out of your butt crack. I'm only trying to help. No need to get an attitude.

If you want my opinion (I know you didn't ask), I would go with the 2008cc kit. You can place that Eurospec crank in your car, then be disappointed when your engine takes a sh*t on you couple thousand miles into it. Stay away from Eurospec items. Well, you can do what you want. But just trying to help and give you fair warning. Latest engine to blow was a few months back with thenj3. They sort of have a track record. I would look into a different crank option (link below for example) if you decide to stay on this route. Otherwise, stick with your current block and go 2008cc.

http://www.bildon.com/catalog/results.cfm?category=Engine&SubCategory=Crankshafts&Nav=6

terraflata
07-15-2013, 04:14 PM
Look at 2190cc Kit, it requires an alh tdi block

That kit from what I understand will limit RPMS due to the extra stroke. Even 034 ditched the 2.2L setup because of this. It all depends on what size turbo you go with, because there is no point buying a gt35 (example) if your engine cant safely rev enough to use it properly. Smaller turbos wont have this issue.

Ediblehotdog
07-06-2017, 10:32 AM
************************************************** ******************************

PSA : PLEASE USE THIS THREAD TO ASK ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON YOUR MIND.WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON KNOWLEDGE SHARING SO DO NOT HESITATE TO ASK (no matter how dumb YOU think the question is.)

************************************************** ******************************


Since the introduction of the 1.8T engine in North America,sourcing stroker kits have been limited to 1 source.
Fast forward a couple of years and we are now able to offer you every possible configuration that your heart desires :cool:

Combinations range all the way from 1803cc's to 2190cc's!

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INDIVIDUAL PARTS:

http://www.034motorsport.com/oscthumbwm/w/500/h/476/q/95/f/jpg/fltr/wmi|phpThumb/watermarks/034watermark|C|20|0/hash/30e9cc3a4e7aa851ab4284ec23ffad4d/src/images/MainGirdleKit_18ta.jpg
Main Bearing Girdle Kit - 058 Block $480 + Shipping
Main Bearing Girdle Kit - 06A/06B Block $580 + Shipping

http://www.034motorsport.com/images/Main_Caps_1.jpg
Billet Main Bearing Caps: - $139 + Shipping

AEB MACHINED IM SHAFT - $105 + Shipping
034 Motorsport Anti-Friction Main & Connecting Rod Bearings - $215 + Shipping
BIG BORE Head Gasket - $95 + Shipping
ARP Main Stud Kit - $135 + Shipping
ARP Head Bolt kit - 06A - 10mm - $175 + Shipping

2.0 ABA FORGED - 058 - 92.8mm crankshaft - $375 + Shipping
2.0 AEG CAST -06A - 92.8mm crankshaft - $375 + Shipping
2.0 TFSI FORGED - 06A - 92.8mm crankshaft - $874.99 + Shipping
Supertech 82.5mm/83mm Pistons - $589.99 + Shipping
SCAT Forged Connecting Rods - $369.99 + Shipping!!
PAUTER Forged Connecting Rods - $779.99 + Shipping!!
PAUTER Forged Connecting Rods w/forced pin oiling - $939.99 + Shipping!!
RACEWARE Head Stud Kit - 10mm/11mm - $469.99 + Shipping

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Please send me a PM when you are ready to order and please select which displacement you desire ;)
Thanks [emoji481]

p.s. Some assembly may be required [emoji23]


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