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jibberjive
12-21-2008, 12:06 PM
Here's a comprehensive writeup of the car's story, details, and mods. I'll update this as the work progresses[up]

Mods and details:

-Exterior-

-OEM RS4 bumper complete with RS4 bumper supports, RS4 mesh grills and RS4 foglights

-OEM Euro Rear Bumper

-OEM RS4 front hood grill

-Depo E-codes (I just had the headlights and RS4 foglights 3m coated)

-DDM 55w HID slim ballast kit

-Fiber Images carbon fiber trunk including CF frame, custom painted

-Black painted roof

-Suntek Carbon Series 20% tint

-Flik Arctic 18 x 8.5's black with polished lip, w/ Falken ZX-912's. These weigh around 21lbs each IIRC and could also make a good track rim if you need to stuff a huge BBK.

-H&R coilovers


-Interior-

-AWE silver metal pedals

-JHM short shifter, 1" drop in height JHM (http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_56_60)

-White beltline trim

-OEM RS4 black air-soft shift knob


-Engine-

-Custom GT exhaust manifolds, 3" v-band downpipes, and custom GT inlets (only manis and DP's in the world with these turbos on an S4) Agtronic Motorsport (http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/)

-TiAL MV-S 38mm v-band wastegates in silver with 1bar springs - routed to recirculate back into the downpipes SMS Performance (http://www.sms-performance.com/)

-Garrett GT2860R-707160-7 turbos SMS Performance (http://www.sms-performance.com/)

-AN oil and coolant lines for the GT turbos SMS Performance (http://www.sms-performance.com/)

-Eurojet Kugel (grenade) diverter valves in silver eurojet racing (http://www.eurojetracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DIVKGL1.0&Redirected=Y)

-Evolution Racewerks (ER) side mount intercoolers

-ARD bi-pipes

-VAST high-flow electric fan kit

-SDR X-1 Carbon Fiber Intake with AEM dryflo filter

-Custom dual 3" to single 4" exhaust with a resonator and flat black Vibrant 1155 dual tip muffler

-Samco TBB

-Vitruvian Engineering completely built and blueprinted longblock, w/ big port 2.8l heads with 2.8 cams Vitruvian Engineering

-Supertech 1mm oversized high temp stainless steel intake valves

-Supertech high temp inconel exhaust valves

-Supertech intake valve springs with titanium retainers

-Supertech dual exhaust valve springs with titanium retainers

-034 SAI blockoff plates on the back of the heads

-Heads were hottanked, mating surfaces decked, 3-angle valve job, the valve seats modified to accommodate the 1mm oversize valves. New cam gaskets, cam plugs, cam tensioner gaskets, valve cover gaskets, and valley gasket between the heads Vitruvian Engineering

-RS4 Headgaskets

-Eurospec non-stretch headbolts

-APR non-stretch main studs (NOTE, YOU HAVE TO DO SOME CLEARANCING TO INSTALL THESE!)

-Integrated Engineering (IE) forged connecting rods with ARP 2000 rod bolts Integrated Engineering (http://www.intengineering.com/integrated-engineering-154-x-21mm-forged-rods-audi-6-cylinder-12v-30v.html)

-New front and rear main seals, rod and main bearings, thrust washers, main bolts, piston rings with the cyliners honed, the block hottanked and decked, rotating assembly balanced, new o-rings, upper and lower oil pan sealant, new vaccum lines

-New timing belt service (kevlar timing belt, serpentine belt, metal impeller water pump, thermostat, timing belt idlers, timing belt damper, relay tensioner leveler, coolant flush)

-Clutchmasters FX400 6-puck clutch, new flywheel bolts and throwout bearing Wicked Motorsports (WMS) (http://www.wicked-motorsports.net/)

-Clutchmasters Steel Lightweight Flywheel Wicked Motorsports (WMS) (http://www.wicked-motorsports.net/)

-Metal slave with braided steel line

-Power steering fluid flush

-New, clean and white coolant reservoir

-Auxiliary water pump delete

-New 02 sensors (rear O2's deleted)

-Zeitronix wideband O2 sensor w/ LCD, 5 bar MAP sensor, EGT sensor, fuel pressure sensor, and alarm relay trigger box (ZAVT-1)

-New (used OEM, I didn't like the EMPI I had on there previously) passenger axle half-shaft

-New updated coolant temp sensor

-ASP DTS bar

-JHM solid polyurethane DTS mount

-JHM shifter linkage JHM (http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_56_60)

-JHM delrin shifter arm bushing JHM (http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_56_60)

-Stern "soft" motor mounts

-Stern "soft" transmission mounts

-034 Poly Snub Mount w/cage

-T-bolt clamps on pressurized hoses


-Fueling-

-Bosch Motorsport EV14 980cc injectors Vitruvian Engineering

-NGK BKR7E plugs

-PMAS HPX MAF sensor

-3.5" billet MAF housing

-Vitruvian Engineering tuned Bosch Motronic ME7.1


-Future Upgrades or Yet to be Installed-

-Vitruvian Engineering "Quite Riot" (Dual Bosch 044 Surge Tank) Vitruvian Engineering

-Vitruvian Engineering BP2 (big port, pig plenum) intake manifold Vitruvian Engineering

-Vitruvian Engineering Sweatbox (upgraded spider hose with integrated 2.7t specific air/oil seperator "catch can") Vitruvian Engineering

-E85 ethanol content analyzer flexfuel integrated into tune

-Apikol rear differential mount


-Other Notes-

-The fenders were professionally rolled to can accommodate 19 x 8.5 wheels without rubbing

I like to be thorough, so if you're just looking for pics and don't care about the history, just skip the next couple of paragraphs.


-The story behind the car-

I was set on buying a Casablanca White S4 with certain stipulations, and literally looked for over a year for this car in this condition with these options (casa, 6-speed, non-black interior, low mileage, no accidents, heated seats.) My search came to an end only by propositioning a guy in NY when the car wasn't even for sale. I flew out, bought it with 49k on it and shipped it back to UT. I only put about 8k mi on it before the car went down for the build. This build has been 3+ years in the making. I'm an Audi enthusiast and I used to work for Audi. The previous owner was also an enthusiast and this was his second casa white S4. The owner before that was an Audi tech. Audizine chose the car as one of 12 to represent them in their 2009 Audizine calendar (it was Mr. June[:)]).


-The story behind the build-

As most of you are aware, I started out this build with the intentions of building the ultimate daily driver/ weekend road course racer (and occasional drag strip go-er.) Originally I had a set of RS6 turbos that I was going to use on the built motor with built big-port 2.8 heads. I was then in a dilemma because says that since I'm completely building the motor anyways, I should get some turbos larger than the RS6's, to better utilize that higher power potential of the motor. I was conflicted, because on the other hand I had strict design goals that I wasn't willing to compromise on (car must have a good powerband for the street and smooth power delivery for the road course, with minimal turbo lag, keeping reliability in mind as well.) I then formulated what I think is the perfect compromise for this car/engine and decided to go with a turbo that, to my knowledge, no one in the world has put on an S4. I chose the Garrett GT2860R-707160-7 (http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/sites/default/files/default_images/turbogroup/catalog_pdf/GT2860R_707160_7.pdf) (you can compare it to the GT28RS HERE.) (http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/sites/default/files/default_images/turbogroup/catalog_pdf/GT2860RS_739548_1.pdf) The GT2860-7 turbo has the same compressor and turbine wheel diameter as the GT28RS (big 60mm compressor and 53.8mm turbine wheels), but the trim of both of the wheels are smaller on the GT2860-7 (compressor wheel and turbine wheel trims for the GT2860-7 are 55 and 62 respectively compared to 62 and 76 for the GT28RS.) Also, the compressor and turbine housings on the GT2860-7 are a bit smaller than the GT28RS, at .42 compared to .60 for the compressor. These differences in trim and housings' size should make the GT2860-7 spool much faster what people are currently seeing with GT28RS setups, yet they should retain some of the big top end because the turbos are still rather large turbos. The GT2860-7 shares the same technology as the GT28RS that makes their turbine efficiency ~10% higher (75% vs. 65%) than the previous generation GT2560R's and GT2554R's that people run on the S4. Compared to the RS6's, the GT2860-7's should see somewhat similar spool (by virtue of their more efficient ball bearing technology, coupled with my top-of-the-line custom exhaust manifolds and external wastegates) but they should have way more potential and top end power due to their wheels that are quite a bit larger than the RS6 (the RS6 has a 56mm compressor wheel compared to 60mm for the GT2860-7 (they're both about the same trim)). The Garrett hotside housings are bigger than the RS6 as well.

Enough about the turbos though, all that technical jargon is saying is that these turbos should spool very well and be manageable on the street, but have awesome peak power potential as well. Once I decided on these turbos I sold my RS6 setup and had Agrtonic Motorsport build me a custom setup for these turbos. If I decide later to trade off some spool for insane top-end power, I could easily swap in the GTX billet wheels/compressor housings on these turbos and have a top-end monster.

For the clutch, since this is going to be a daily driver I didn't want to deal with a clutch with engagement like a light switch, and didn't want a noisy and uncomfortable clutch. That's why I opted pass on a twin-disc, and instead went with the next strongest thing that still maintains the driveability. I went with a Clutchmaster's FX400 6 puck disc and the Clutchmasters single mass steel flywheel, to try to avoid excessive flywheel chatter. Mike at WMS has run this same setup successfully in some GT S4's already, and again I feel like I found the perfect compromise of grabbing ability and daily drivability.

I went with completely built big port 2.8 heads for the increased flow of these big turbos, but I chose to retain the stock forged Mahle pistons, and decided to do so for a couple of reasons. My goal in building this car is to build the ultimate daily driver/weekend road racer, and with that I want to retain as good of gas mileage as I can. There are some of the bigger turbo setups getting 22-28mpg. With these turbos I should be able to get in that range (if I avoid spooling[:D].) Also, I want to have OEM-like reliability, and I have heard of a couple of 3.0l and 2.8l cars that consume oil. Also, IMO it's not worth the money to go 2.8 with new pistons because that .1l difference of displacement is pretty much negligible with regards to spool and overall power, and any drop in compression could be similarly achieved reliably with headgaskets if necessary. A combination of all of these factors, and a desire for OEM-like reliability led me to retain the stock pistons and displacement.

As I'm sure you can tell, I've paid incredible attention to detail because I am planning on never selling the car.

Here's some pics of the car and of all of the equipment:

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Casablanca%20S4/281149684noplate.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Casablanca%20S4/281151050_h4JM8-O.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Audi/SaltFlats066.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P1050019.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160005.jpg

The DP's are now terminated with a v-band as well

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20055.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20018.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20016.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20001.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20011.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20020.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20028.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20032.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20034.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20037.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20040.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20046.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20047.jpg

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/gallery/mike_romney/Mike%20Romney%20054.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280242.jpg

Stage 2+ preliminary baseline dyno (enriching and pulling timing with bad EGT)

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Audi/cobbdyno.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC100039.jpg?t=1229889550

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC100040.jpg?t=1229889552

I will update this as it progresses[wrench] Last updated 3/5/2012

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 12:07 PM
Unmodified turbos

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280229.jpg


Oil and Coolant Lines

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280250.jpg


2.8 heads with Supertech hardware

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_5852.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7249.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7243.jpg


Integrated Engineering forged H-beam connecting rods

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC210002.jpg


ARP 2000 Rod Bolts

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC210003.jpg


ARP Main Studs, Eurospec non-stretch headbolts and billet goods

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6839.jpg


Clutchmasters FX400 with steel light weight flywheel

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P6160019.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P6160028.jpg


Stern motor and tranny mounts

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6838.jpg


Snub, Poly DTS upgrade, and Apikol rear diff mounts (I sold the 034 mounts in the pic below in favor of the Stern mounts)

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC210007.jpg


eurojetracing "Kugel" diverter valves

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4060010.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4060034.jpg


SDR X-1 Intake

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2260006.jpg


ARD Bi-pipes

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0907.jpg


Bosch 1000cc EV14 injectors

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6846.jpg


Zeitronix engine monitoring goods

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6833.jpg


VAST high-flow EFK

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC210061.jpg


Evolution Racewerks side mount intercoolers

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PA120170.jpg


Dual 3" to single 4" exhaust

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7459.jpg


New RS4 shift knob and JHM SS

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/MikesStuff024.jpg


B6 USP air-soft steering wheel

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230090.jpg


RS4 grill

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/MikesStuff023.jpg


in.pro sport mirror caps

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC210005.jpg


DEPO H7 e-code headlights
That's the factory protective shipping covering, not the 3M film

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230096.jpg


DDM slim ballast 55w H7 HID kit

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230077.jpg


Sneak peek at the complete engine looking pretty

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/S4Motor1.jpg

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 12:08 PM
One of many new tools
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC210011.jpg?t=1229889488

My shop that I've been cleaning out, prepping, painting and outfitting for the past little bit
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC100017.jpg?t=1229889216
New 4 post lift!
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/Shop_14.jpg?t=1229889876
Pops helping assemble lift
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC100027.jpg?t=1229889220
Almost assembled
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/PC100038.jpg?t=1229889227

1/9/09

Well I finally got the lift fully assembled last weekend
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P1050017.jpg

And took a final shot of the car before I started taking some parts out
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P1050019.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P1050023.jpg

2/18/09

Well I started on my engine pull last night cause my motor sold and I bought my new one, so some progress finally! I started around 530pm, pops left around 930-1000pm (we had the driveline/stuff underneath done and the airbox/y-pipe stuff done.) I was there til after 4am tinkering with it, though I should've left earlier because I wasn't very productive by that time. Anywho, onto the pictures.

Onto the motor pull.
Before she was touched (except for the headlights that I sold a while back.)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160005.jpg

Where we but the zip-lock bagged bolts
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160026.jpg

We had to lift the car with some 2x4's on the DTS because of the way the jack was.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160022.jpg

Pulling the half-shafts, cat-back exhaust and driveline
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160014.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160015.jpg

Passenger's shaft out
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160016.jpg

Driver's shaft out
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160017.jpg

Apparently I had a horribly torn boot since the last time I checked a month or two ago
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160032.jpg

Catback off (I have a new found love for v-band clamps!) Taking off Driveline heatshield
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160018.jpg

Disconnecting the driveline
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160024.jpg

Pile o' parts so far
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160029.jpg

From here on I was on my own.
Front bumper and fogs off. My RS4 bumper was held on differently than the stock ones from the writeup (other than the two main bumper support bolts of course.)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170043.jpg

IC shrouds and pusher fan off. Draining the coolant (I caught most of the initial drain from the radiator, but when moving the whole radiator/front clip and when unplugging other hoses around the motor I got coolant everywere, over and again!)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170048.jpg

AC condenser swung to the side and front clip removed
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170061.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170065.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170067.jpg

How she currently sits from when I left her. IC's gone, serpentine belt off and trying to get that AC compressor off.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170074.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170077.jpg


CLICK HERE TO JUMP TO THE REST OF THE MOTOR PULL, BREAKDOWN AND THE REST OF THE PICS (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3452980#post3452980)



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AudiA4_20T
12-21-2008, 12:10 PM
wow, ballin...

why 2.7 cams? and RS6 turbos?

BastardS4
12-21-2008, 12:11 PM
that setup will haul ass.

anaxagoras
12-21-2008, 12:13 PM
god damn, god damn.... I'm jealous of the lift, Santa came early eh?

Silence
12-21-2008, 12:14 PM
Wow. Nice. Can't wait to see whats done with it.

Das General
12-21-2008, 12:15 PM
Make sure you keep your old valve covers.

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 12:33 PM
wow, ballin...

why 2.7 cams? and RS6 turbos?
This will be my daily driver/weekend road racer so off turbo boost and spool quickness is important. Also, I've heard that RS6's may not have enough top end to make the aggresive 2.8 cams worth the tradeoff, but I'm never positive.


god damn, god damn.... I'm jealous of the lift, Santa came early eh?

I've had more Christmases this year than my whole life combined, and because of this all I probably won't be enjoying any Christmases for the next few years either[:o] I got a good deal on the lift, and with doing the labor myself it's like I'm getting all of the shop equipment for free. Plus pops is going in on half of the lift and tools[:D]

Make sure you keep your old valve covers.

For real?? I was hoping to sell my 2.7 heads complete if the whole motor itself doesn't sell within the next couple of days. So I need the 2.7 valve covers?

AudiA4_20T
12-21-2008, 12:38 PM
This will be my daily driver/weekend road racer so off turbo boost and spool quickness is important. Also, I've heard that RS6's may not have enough top end to make the aggresive 2.8 cams worth the tradeoff, but I'm never positive.



I've had more Christmases this year than my whole life combined, and because of this all I probably won't be enjoying any Christmases for the next few years either[:o] I got a good deal on the lift, and with doing the labor myself it's like I'm getting all of the shop equipment for free. Plus pops is going in on half of the lift and tools[:D]


For real?? I was hoping to sell my 2.7 heads complete if the whole motor itself doesn't sell within the next couple of days. So I need the 2.7 valve covers?


Hmmm, cool setup. I see your point, modding is an experiment. Anyway, look at your coilpacks, and look at the 2.8 ones [;)]

Mattgfx
12-21-2008, 12:40 PM
holy shit you must have some cash.

Das General
12-21-2008, 12:44 PM
For real?? I was hoping to sell my 2.7 heads complete if the whole motor itself doesn't sell within the next couple of days. So I need the 2.7 valve covers?

Yeah, you need a couple parts off of the 2.7 heads. Cam tensioners, valve covers.

Silver streak
12-21-2008, 12:44 PM
Thats awesome... I wish I had a garage with that lift to do work on my car! Good luck with the build, looking forward to seeing the progress.

RolledMySTi
12-21-2008, 12:45 PM
[hail][hail][hail]

Super sweet set up and a lift! I'm jealous. That is going to haul ass and a lift is going to be so handy owning this car. Good luck with the install and keep us posted. [up]

s42k5b
12-21-2008, 01:03 PM
Wow Nice set up and lift. I wish a lift would fit in my garage!

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 01:12 PM
holy shit you must have some cash.
Had, past tense[>_<] The labor's on me with the new lift.

Yeah, you need a couple parts off of the 2.7 heads. Cam tensioners, valve covers.
So to be thorough, all I need is the tensioners and valve covers?

AudiSportB5S4
12-21-2008, 01:12 PM
who says we're in a recession ! haha.

jblinga
12-21-2008, 01:12 PM
holy shit you must have some cash.

+1

Good luck on the build man!!

S4-ORCE
12-21-2008, 01:19 PM
You're going balls out!

GetAudiHere
12-21-2008, 01:28 PM
Wow [o_o]! Your definitely helping out the economy! haha. for real you are almost going to have a whole new car when your done with this! Good luck and yes im jealous of the lift as well.

Rajan147
12-21-2008, 01:35 PM
your keeping the economy afloat all by yourself! Setup looks awesome, and I'm envious of that 4 post lift.

highPSI-S4
12-21-2008, 02:00 PM
WoW, damn you are a lucky guy. Setup sounds like it should be a beast, maybe you'll have some good info when your done that will say RS6's are worth the extra 1000.00 over k04's.

goodluck with the build.

s vier
12-21-2008, 02:04 PM
Did you get those rods from a guy in texas?

AudiA4_20T
12-21-2008, 02:06 PM
Yeah, you need a couple parts off of the 2.7 heads. Cam tensioners, valve covers.

yo Derek we just used ure cam tensioners because I bent the 2.8 one... They might work fine

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 02:13 PM
Did you get those rods from a guy in texas?

Nope, Integrated Engineering, Pete@Integrated on here.
http://www.intengineering.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/5619543/vpcsid/0/SFV/32093
Their headquarters are local to me, Pete's a good guy![up]

Das General
12-21-2008, 02:19 PM
yo Derek we just used ure cam tensioners because I bent the 2.8 one... They might work fine

Well, nevertheless he needs the old 2.7 VC's.

Jibber, are you going to balance the motor with the new rods are just pop em in?

GramCracker
12-21-2008, 02:30 PM
Holy shit.

Subscribed.

Korben007
12-21-2008, 02:30 PM
so what exactly r u doing to upgrade the alternator. I think im having the same problem as i have a massive system and my alt just doesnt put out enough juice

tomlafS4
12-21-2008, 02:35 PM
Subscribed out of pure jealously...good luck on the build Mike!!

s42k5b
12-21-2008, 02:38 PM
How much AWHP are you going to get from those subs?[:D]

GURUMAN
12-21-2008, 03:11 PM
Almost bought my gt25 kit bro, good luck with the build...

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 03:45 PM
WoW, damn you are a lucky guy. Setup sounds like it should be a beast, maybe you'll have some good info when your done that will say RS6's are worth the extra 1000.00 over k04's.

goodluck with the build.

In my pre-build opinion they aren't worth the extra money unless you're doing rods (and I'm def getting my power gains over KO4's running E85 daily). The motor build has turned out to be WAY more expensive than anticipated though and if I didn't already have everything bought and planned out I would probably rather go with a $3500 used KO4 setup and be happy. It would've been over $4500 more for me to run a GT setup. I'll let you know my post-build opinion after[:d]

so what exactly r u doing to upgrade the alternator. I think im having the same problem as i have a massive system and my alt just doesnt put out enough juice

I'm going to have it sent to someone to get rewound for higher amperage. I'll let you know who, how big and how much when I get there.

How much AWHP are you going to get from those subs?[:D]
33.2AWHP[:D]
Well I'm really am saving some HP by going with these subs over other ones because with their neodymium magnets they only weigh 17lbs each[o_o] I am curious if anyone here can really appreciate what these subs are (not saying that negatively, just curious if there's anyone on this forum that's really into car audio.)

Almost bought my gt25 kit bro, good luck with the build...
True, and at the price point we were talking I still would prob rather go that route. But with the retail price of the new kits I just couldn't justify it. Now lets see some vids of your car killing some supercars or something[evilsmile]

Das General
12-21-2008, 03:48 PM
My guess is... you will make 481.5whp on e85

AK1RA07
12-21-2008, 03:57 PM
I see you're selling your 85mm MAF.. what are you going to run in its place?

GURUMAN
12-21-2008, 04:08 PM
True, and at the price point we were talking I still would prob rather go that route. But with the retail price of the new kits I just couldn't justify it. Now lets see some vids of your car killing some supercars or something

Yep...

This winter I'm stepping even further in the seriousness of my build...

No later then April she's back on the road...

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 04:09 PM
My guess is... you will make 481.5whp on e85
And you remember my rough numbers from that dyno, right? If I get that this will be a powerful setup[evilsmile]

I see you're selling your 85mm MAF.. what are you going to run in its place?
An 85mm straight through MAF (EPL's is tapered) because that's what Greg tunes with

Das General
12-21-2008, 04:09 PM
Yep...

This winter I'm stepping even further in the seriousness of my build...

No later then April she's back on the road...

Go on.... details.

AudiSportB5S4
12-21-2008, 04:53 PM
jiber... what sport mirrors are those? the in.pros? I cant make my mind up if I want to have my body shop paint my mirrors a matte silver, which I already asked them about doing they said they could they would just over reduce it, or get those shiny shiny things. Not sure.

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 05:09 PM
jiber... what sport mirrors are those? the in.pros? I cant make my mind up if I want to have my body shop paint my mirrors a matte silver, which I already asked them about doing they said they could they would just over reduce it, or get those shiny shiny things. Not sure.
Yup, in.pro. They're shiny, so it's up to you. To be honest unless it was an enthusiast and they had the stock ones and these side by side, I doubt anyone can tell the difference on the street. They don't necessarily look like coated plastic, they look like shiny polished chrome. I'm going to try them, but to be honest I can see myself going back to body color because that's just more my style. So these may be up for sale in a little.

Das General
12-21-2008, 05:27 PM
And you remember my rough numbers from that dyno, right? If I get that this will be a powerful setup[evilsmile]

An 85mm straight through MAF (EPL's is tapered) because that's what Greg tunes with

Yup, I remember. I think with e85 and a solid tune you can get very close to the number I listed. I know of an RS6 car that put down 506ish on race at ASP. It later put down about 480ish. Should be interesting!

Vag Motorsport has the maf you need.

AK1RA07
12-21-2008, 05:41 PM
Is anyone tuning on something other than the 85mm? is it that hard to scale for something a little larger?

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 06:34 PM
Vag Motorsport has the maf you need.

VAG Motorsport makes the maf I need. Greg has the VAG maf I need[:p]

Is anyone tuning on something other than the 85mm? is it that hard to scale for something a little larger?
ASP does 90mm right? So does JHM, he uses a Ford Lightning MAF IIRC.

Wizard-of-OD
12-21-2008, 06:36 PM
Looking good!
love the OEM look with the RS4 air box!

2001S4NY
12-21-2008, 06:37 PM
Is anyone tuning on something other than the 85mm? is it that hard to scale for something a little larger?

I can do larger if needed but 85mm is a cheap option, and he wont max a 85mm maf out on RS6 turbos.

2001S4NY
12-21-2008, 06:38 PM
If he wants he can also do a RS4 MAF with a hitachi conversion and tune off that, But this will be a sick car once its done :)

Silence
12-21-2008, 06:40 PM
Greg, did you ever retune the e85 file on a bigger fuel pump?

AK1RA07
12-21-2008, 06:54 PM
I can do larger if needed but 85mm is a cheap option, and he wont max a 85mm maf out on RS6 turbos.

You got email [:)]

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 07:00 PM
Greg and Issam, I'll be getting at you both very shortly.

Evilevo
12-21-2008, 07:27 PM
Build looks good!! Wish i could have afforded to build the motor.

Greg, I'll see ya tomorrow!! Take care of my baby. O and have fun with the front bumper :D

A4 Meets 27t
12-21-2008, 07:45 PM
Awesome stuff, this is exactly the same set up I will be running, also an E85 tune from Greg, once I get all the parts pieced together, sometime this new year. I will be going a little bit different route with cams though, will go with cat cams on 2.8heads, so should be interesting with the final results. GOOD LUCK with everything.

A4 Meets 27t
12-21-2008, 07:47 PM
How are those ebay pipe kit working out for people, I saw those on ebay, any reviews?

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 07:55 PM
How are those ebay pipe kit working out for people, I saw those on ebay, any reviews?

Yeah, lots of reviews, just search for 'ebay silicone' or something. People say most of the pipes fit pretty good, you may have to trim some length off of the pipes that go to the DV's, trim the inside of the TBB (if you use it), and apparently your engine covers don't fit with the TBB from this kit. The stuff looks quality and I don't think you can beat it for $110 shipped.

S4 Dan
12-21-2008, 08:05 PM
looks like a sick build... good to see you decided to keep her and do the upgrades yourself... subs look amazing, i myself am into the car audio scene... i installed for 5 years professionally...

A4 Meets 27t
12-21-2008, 08:20 PM
What DP's are you gonna run?

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 08:22 PM
What DP's are you gonna run?

ASP 3"ers with the flanges welded on.

A4 Meets 27t
12-21-2008, 08:57 PM
Is ASP welding those on?

jibberjive
12-21-2008, 09:29 PM
Is ASP welding those on?

Nope, already have the DP's. A local exhaust shop will.

GURUMAN
12-22-2008, 05:23 AM
Go on.... details.

I cant

Issam dosent want me to leak info [;)]

koolkoreanked
12-22-2008, 06:50 AM
Wow my setup exactly except I have rs4 manifold, tb, bipipes and 2.8 cams... Tuning is different too as I'm going jhm. I wish I could get an e85 tune but no e85 around here... Good luck with the build

cjk
12-22-2008, 09:48 AM
Ahhh...come on! it's the holidays...you can share a little! [:D]


I cant

Issam dosent want me to leak info [;)]

NYCVR6
12-22-2008, 10:54 AM
Sick build Jib..

jibberjive
12-22-2008, 05:27 PM
Sick build Jib..

Thanks for the airbox...and the clip ha[;)]

haus4
12-22-2008, 05:47 PM
Jibber, looks like you got everything for a sick build. Wish you luck with it. I am subscribing.

GramCracker
12-22-2008, 05:52 PM
jiber... what sport mirrors are those? the in.pros? I cant make my mind up if I want to have my body shop paint my mirrors a matte silver, which I already asked them about doing they said they could they would just over reduce it, or get those shiny shiny things. Not sure.

Want to rock my stock silver ones for a bit?

rbooth
12-22-2008, 09:50 PM
man, enjoy...

ubermidget
12-23-2008, 06:01 AM
just for reference....i had an rs4 airbox for my rs6 build but it wont work with a typical 85mm maf since the rs4 maf housing screws in and the vag style uses the stock clips.

congrats on the build though, should be fun

NogaroAvant
12-23-2008, 06:33 AM
looking good...

s vier
12-23-2008, 06:36 AM
just for reference....i had an rs4 airbox for my rs6 build but it wont work with a typical 85mm maf since the rs4 maf housing screws in and the vag style uses the stock clips.

congrats on the build though, should be fun

And now I have it with RS4 maf/accordian. Thanks again John. BTW, didn't you have a smaller box? Jesus, your friend must have cost you some extra shipping $ using the refrigerator box he sent it in!

Dr.Duct
12-23-2008, 06:41 AM
Yup, in.pro. They're shiny, so it's up to you. To be honest unless it was an enthusiast and they had the stock ones and these side by side, I doubt anyone can tell the difference on the street. They don't necessarily look like coated plastic, they look like shiny polished chrome, and I got them for way cheap (maybe cheaper than having a body shop paint yours). I'm going to try them, but to be honest I can see myself going back to body color because that's just more my style. So these may be up for sale in a little.

I would def. go back to stock.. anyone that has sport mirrors will def. say that their is a night and day difference.

Mine..

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/Mossburg031/11-8.jpg

With the amount of black and what not that you have on your car, Id prolly go with black mirrors. Just my .2

jibberjive
12-24-2008, 12:38 AM
anyone that has sport mirrors will def. say that their is a night and day difference.


And anyone who doesn't have sport mirrors probably wouldn't[:p]
I never really thought too seriously about black mirrors because I didn't want to deal with the paint, but I just realized that I could prob find some brilliant black ones pretty cheaply. I may try to find a set and try that as well, and sell the ones I don't like.

On a side note, whatever happened to the whole 'camo paint scheme anyday' kick?

WMi_S4
12-24-2008, 06:06 PM
Jibber, any info on the HID kit you got?? Anyone else on here have them w/ reviews/experience with them?

Also, where did you pick em up and for how much? I am trying to find a reasonably priced HID kit that is plug/play w/ stock headlights

jibberjive
12-24-2008, 10:06 PM
Jibber, any info on the HID kit you got?? Anyone else on here have them w/ reviews/experience with them?

Also, where did you pick em up and for how much? I am trying to find a reasonably priced HID kit that is plug/play w/ stock headlights

Yeah, they're Retro Solutions full 55W HID kit w/ 55W bulbs and ballasts. I believe my kit is either 5000k or 5500k. Looks to be killer quality and alot of other S4's run this kit and have nothing but good reviews. I got mine from a group buy a little while ago on Audiworld. I'm actually tossing around the idea of going with another light setup that doesn't use the d2s bulbs, so if you're interested I'll sell you the kit for what I paid for it. PM me if you're interested.[up]

Fast Euro
12-24-2008, 10:28 PM
wow, the first points on your list sound exactly like the route I may be taking with my car soon. Good luck and please keep us posted on the results.

S4M3
12-25-2008, 12:25 AM
Nice build up... i can't wait for my GT setup to be done... by the way directlifts are cheap and good ! I have one but is a 2 post.

mtxsho93
01-02-2009, 04:44 AM
Yeah, they're Retro Solutions full 55W HID kit w/ 55W bulbs and ballasts. I believe my kit is either 5000k or 5500k. Looks to be killer quality and alot of other S4's run this kit and have nothing but good reviews. I got mine from a group buy a little while ago on Audiworld. I'm actually tossing around the idea of going with another light setup that doesn't use the d2s bulbs, so if you're interested I'll sell you the kit for what I paid for it. PM me if you're interested.[up]

Why wouldn't you want to use D2S capsules?

Ian

Videlov
01-02-2009, 10:39 AM
Looks like a killer build, keep us updated!

EUROTEK//S4
01-02-2009, 10:58 AM
subscribed,

do you need a built motor (rods/pistons) for RS6 turbos ? or can you safely make
450 whp/wtq on 93 pump...thanks

AudiA4_20T
01-03-2009, 01:17 AM
subscribed,

do you need a built motor (rods/pistons) for RS6 turbos ? or can you safely make
450 whp/wtq on 93 pump...thanks

I don't think enough people have blown them to know

ubermidget
01-03-2009, 06:40 AM
my stock motor has held up fine....not a big dyno guy but i can tell you its leaps and bounds faster than my old k04 setup

Das General
01-03-2009, 09:03 AM
Is this thing done yet?

CTS Turbo
01-03-2009, 10:31 AM
awesome

Dr.Duct
01-03-2009, 11:11 AM
And anyone who doesn't have sport mirrors probably wouldn't[:p]
I never really thought too seriously about black mirrors because I didn't want to deal with the paint, but I just realized that I could prob find some brilliant black ones pretty cheaply. I may try to find a set and try that as well, and sell the ones I don't like.

On a side note, whatever happened to the whole 'camo paint scheme anyday' kick?

yeah, and the problem with finding brilliant black mirrors is that, its going to be tough to find ones with good paint.. Its hard to keep them from getting pitted and chipped up, thats why I love the aluminum..

My opinion, once again, just mine.. Is def. done go with the knock offs.. Your spending all of this other money doing stuff the right way, whats a few more hundred bucks? I personally prefer to have real enthusiast come up and comment on the sport package, then to have knobs come up and ask if its the sport's package (speaking on rarity).

The camo was just for h2o, and since h2o was a major fail this year.. well...

Ive been really putting my car off lately due to my accident, and now with my fathers new years eve accident things are really getting tough to find time to deal with it, along with getting my now, 3 bikes track ready for the summer.

GL with the build though, def. interested in seeing those beloved progress pics[up]

s2000_s4_525
01-03-2009, 01:40 PM
I HATE YOU! JELOUS FACE. Looking good and I hope everything works out and goes smoothly cuz i want to see more pics and vidz.

jibberjive
01-03-2009, 02:59 PM
Is this thing done yet?
Bad update guys...This build just took a major priority hit and probably won't be done before Spring. I was hoping to get it done over the holidays, but that obviously didn't happen, and now I'll only be able to work on it during my very free time on possibly some weekends.


yeah, and the problem with finding brilliant black mirrors is that, its going to be tough to find ones with good paint.. Its hard to keep them from getting pitted and chipped up, thats why I love the aluminum..

To be honest, at this point, a couple hundred bucks actually does matter for something I'm not even sure if I'm going to like or keep longer than a couple of days. I'm prob picking up a set of BB caps from s vier to see how like those too, so we'll see.

subscribed,

do you need a built motor (rods/pistons) for RS6 turbos ? or can you safely make
450 whp/wtq on 93 pump...thanks

I agree that not enough motors have been blown up to make a statistically decent sized sample group, but the general consensus around the forums is that the limit on the stock motor is around 500 whp, and there are some engines that have gone south with around that much power. I'm likely going to be close to maxing out the turbos with the E85 tune so I don't want to be dancing on the limit.


Why wouldn't you want to use D2S capsules?

Ian
Because the headlights I'm going to be going with don't use D2S bulbs.

jibberjive
01-09-2009, 04:20 AM
Well I finally got the lift fully assembled last weekend
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P1050017.jpg

And took a final shot of the car before I started taking some parts out
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P1050019.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P1050023.jpg

wdbdy2000s4
01-09-2009, 06:42 AM
Jib, I should have a couple of the Kuhmos you were looking for. I left them at a buddies garage so I'll call him today and see if he still has a couple of the good ones.

jibberjive
01-09-2009, 07:10 AM
Jib, I should have a couple of the Kuhmos you were looking for. I left them at a buddies garage so I'll call him today and see if he still has a couple of the good ones.

I would so love you long time for that!

wdbdy2000s4
01-09-2009, 07:28 AM
I just talked to my buddy, he's pretty sure the tires are down at his shop(he's going to check today). I have 2 in mint condition, about 500 miles on them. The other two have cuts in the sidewalls from where they rubbed on my fenders back in the day. Would you want to trade your HID kit for the 2 good ones? If not, what do you have in mind? shoot me a PM so I don't have to destroy your thread with nonsense.

jibberjive
02-17-2009, 10:48 PM
Well I started on my engine pull last night cause my motor sold and I bought my new one, so some progress finally! I started around 530pm, pops left around 930-1000pm (we had the driveline/stuff underneath done and the airbox/y-pipe stuff done.) Then I took my time and got stuck at the end trying to figure out how to get the freaking AC compressor out[headbang][evilmad] I was there til after 4am tinkering with it, though I should've left earlier because I wasn't very productive by that time. Anywho, onto the pictures.

The motor pull.
Before she was touched (except for the headlights that I sold a while back.)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160005.jpg

Me and pops.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160007.jpg

Where we but the zip-lock bagged bolts
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160026.jpg

We had to lift the car with some 2x4's on the DTS because of the way the jack was.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160022.jpg

Pulling the half-shafts, cat-back exhaust and driveline
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160014.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160015.jpg

Passenger's shaft out
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160016.jpg

Driver's shaft out
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160017.jpg

Apparently I had a horribly torn boot since the last time I checked a month or two ago
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160032.jpg

Catback off (I have a new found love for v-band clamps!) Taking off Driveline heatshield
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160018.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160020.jpg

Disconnecting the driveline
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160024.jpg

Pile o' parts so far
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2160029.jpg

From here on I was on my own.
Front bumper and fogs off. My RS4 bumper was held on differently than the stock ones from the writeup (other than the two main bumper support bolts of course.)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170043.jpg

IC shrouds and pusher fan off. Draining the coolant (I caught most of the initial drain from the radiator, but when moving the whole radiator/front clip and when unplugging other hoses around the motor I got coolant everywere, over and again!)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170048.jpg

AC condenser swung to the side and front clip removed
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170061.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170065.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170067.jpg

How she currently sits from when I left her. IC's gone, serpentine belt off and trying to get that freaking AC compressor off.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170074.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2170077.jpg


Now with a couple of questions:

1. Is there a way to get the rubber hanging pieces with brackets off of the catback hangers to use on a different custom exhaust, or do I need to buy new brackets/rubber hangers?

2. This is a poll: For those of you that have pulled your own motors, did you leave the AC system pressurized or no?

3. For those of you that left it pressurized, was the AC compressor a killer pain pull off the motor to swing it out of the way? In Jerbel's and Mike@PEB's writeups they just sort of glancingly say something like "disconnect the AC compressor and swing it under the car (there's two 13mm bolts in front and one in the rear.)" M3 to S4's writeup shows a pic of what is supposedly the rear bolt for the AC compressor under the driver's side head and then a pic of the AC compressor missing. None of the writeups mention taking off the serpentine belt. I removed the two front bolts and the bolt shown in the pics in M3's writeup, then figured I have to take off the belt. But after it all, the compressor is in there tight enough to wiggle the whole car. I tapped on it with a rubber mallet it's solid. I'm pretty sure I'm missing a bolt somewhere, but I have no idea where and you can't really see too easily back inside the motor, let alone fit a wrench down anywhere. I've looked everywhere at every writeup I could find as well as in the Bentley and can't find out how to get it out.

Any tips/tricks/help???

More updates hopefully around the weekend time!

washyourrhands
02-18-2009, 01:14 AM
PM Rolledmysti

he and i just pulled his motor 3 times in 4 months

hes a pro now

A4 Meets 27t
02-18-2009, 08:27 AM
Nice work, Ill ask my about that A/C not sure why its such a pain, ours came right off and moved it to the right. Nice casa.

Here's a few pic of my project:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/nyshmaster/DSC01975a.jpg?t=1234974291

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/nyshmaster/DSC01970a.jpg?t=1234974400

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/nyshmaster/DSC01964a.jpg?t=1234975427

haus4
02-18-2009, 01:06 PM
Nice update, glad to see your making progress. I wish I had a lift to use

A4 Meets 27t
02-18-2009, 09:51 PM
The AC compressor on mine was pulled to the right, shouldn't be too tough. Update?

Fast Euro
02-18-2009, 10:14 PM
subscribed,

do you need a built motor (rods/pistons) for RS6 turbos ? or can you safely make
450 whp/wtq on 93 pump...thanks

From what I understand, if you want to go a full out balls to the wall tune with the RS6's, then its recommended that you get rods. Though with that said, I've read about numerous people not running rods with RS6's and having no issues.

jibberjive
02-18-2009, 11:30 PM
The AC compressor on mine was pulled to the right, shouldn't be too tough. Update?

Won't be any update til Sat. earliest

my01s4
02-19-2009, 06:22 AM
[quote=A4 Meets 27t;3391252]Nice work, Ill ask my about that A/C not sure why its such a pain, ours came right off and moved it to the right. Nice casa.

Here's a few pic of my project:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a274/nyshmaster/DSC01975a.jpg?t=1234974291



/quote]
My Good Ol' Blue. Cant wait till I bring that back from the dead.

devildog6
02-19-2009, 07:13 AM
Subscribed, awsome thread cant wait to see more...let me know if you need some powder coating work

jibberjive
02-22-2009, 07:13 AM
So I got the motor pulled last night! It took quite a bit longer than I thought, but I made sure everything was done right. I could do it alot quicker the next time for sure though. I'll post pics of it soon.

GramCracker
02-22-2009, 10:04 AM
So I got the motor pulled last night! It took quite a bit longer than I thought, but I made sure everything was done right. I could do it alot quicker the next time for sure though. I'll post pics of it soon.

You can't go making a post like that without pics! I demand them now! [>_<]

Reich
02-22-2009, 10:32 AM
Nice job jibberjive. Pretty late in your thread.
Just a qusetion like that. Where did you bought your lift and what's the lengh of it? F..king nice lift you have there.
Keep on the nice build and updates please.

haus4
02-22-2009, 10:39 AM
Pulling the motor and no pics. I kno you have a bunch on your camera....

GramCracker
02-22-2009, 11:48 AM
Pulling the motor and no pics. I kno you have a bunch on your camera....

That's what I'm sayin'!

jibberjive
02-23-2009, 07:28 PM
Sorry guys, I guess I'll hold the updates until I have time to post up the pics with them.


Nice job jibberjive. Pretty late in your thread.
Just a qusetion like that. Where did you bought your lift and what's the lengh of it? F..king nice lift you have there.
Keep on the nice build and updates please.
This is where I bought the lift. I did alot of research before I bought the lift and I highly recommend it, incredible value! If you're on the east coast Greg Smith has them as well.
http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/DIRECT_LIFT_PRO_PARK_8_Standard_p/propark8standard.htm
http://www.bestbuyautoequipment.com/DIRECT_LIFT_PRO_JACK_3500_p/pro-jack3500.htm

Here's the new steering wheel I picked up. It's a B6 Ultrasport air-soft steering wheel with a TT airbag.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230080.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230084.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230091.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230090.jpg

So I just bought an X-1 intake and therefore my like-new RS4 airbox is up for sale now.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Selling/PC210050.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Selling/PC210051.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Selling/PC210054.jpg

Finally took pics of the Depo E-codes and DDM 55w H7 HID kit:
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230093.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230094.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230098.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230096.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230077.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2230078.jpg

jibberjive
02-23-2009, 07:29 PM
So, onto the pull. The AC compressor was just held in by the back bolt, which is way easy to get to from underneath by the motor mount. I was confused by looking at the pics in M3 to S4's writeup cause there he makes it seem like the 3rd bolt is right below the driver's side head. So the bolt I took out there was actually one of the bolts that holds on the inlet support[headbang] Plus it was 4am, so my faculties weren't as sharp as they would've otherwise been[>_<]

Disconnecting the ECU etc.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2210029.jpg

All sensors/hoses/lines disconnected, AC compressor/condenser swung to the side and getting ready to pull
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220046.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220047.jpg

Hooking up the chains and load leveler
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220049.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220051.jpg

Part of the way out to disconnect the slave cylinder, fish out the heater core hoses, and take off the tranny mounts. The coolant never stops coming![evilmad] I'm under there in a pool of coolant trying to do this stuff and make sure it gets out cleanly, and the never ending drip of coolant is getting all over everywhere that I just cleaned 10 times. If there's a way to completely purge the coolant system before the whole procedure, I'd do that in a heartbeat. This part actually took alot longer than I had expected. We tried it with the tranny mounts on at first, but that wasn't working and it took me a good minute to figure out how to take the tranny mounts off (didn't know it was just one bolt on top below the heatshield). Sitting under there holding the tranny to help it all out cleanly I put the back of my head on the open end of the driveshaft that is filled with grease a bunch of times.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220052.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220053.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220054.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220056.jpg

"I once caught a fish THIS big."
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220057.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220062.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220066.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220067.jpg

No engine
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220068.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220061.jpg

The parts (minus the front bumper)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220065.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2210013.jpg

The towel after I wiped the back of my hair only twice
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220069.jpg

haus4
02-23-2009, 07:58 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220046.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220047.jpg

Going in for the kill, lol

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220054.jpg

You know wats funny, all my friends laugh at me for having a headlamp, but you know you work on your S4 a lot if you have one. (plus I had it from camping, so it does double duty.)

"I once caught a fish THIS big."
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220057.jpg

Your dad looks proud, that you guys actually got it. Keep up the good work!

I really want to see the engine tear down pics. [>_<]

Boris
02-23-2009, 11:20 PM
dude you have all the goods!!!!

///M3 TO S4
02-23-2009, 11:40 PM
Hey dude, sorry I just saw this thread tonight, you should have sent me a PM. Yeah I see you got the ac compressor out but year there are two bolts on the front, and one WAY up behind it, you need a 12' extension and a short extension to reach the bolt. And the little green plug in the back, it's a PITA to get out. Sorry my write-up isn't vague about that part. I'm going to update it now, I didn't even realize it. If you need any help, shoot me a PM. Good luck man!

jibberjive
02-23-2009, 11:48 PM
You know wats funny, all my friends laugh at me for having a headlamp, but you know you work on your S4 a lot if you have one. (plus I had it from camping, so it does double duty.)


Yup, it's a Petzel. My camping headlamp[:)] I actually don't like the white LED light as much as the normal halogen light for working on the car. I can see texture and depth so much better.

jibberjive
02-24-2009, 12:29 AM
Hey dude, sorry I just saw this thread tonight, you should have sent me a PM. Yeah I see you got the ac compressor out but year there are two bolts on the front, and one WAY up behind it, you need a 12' extension and a short extension to reach the bolt. And the little green plug in the back, it's a PITA to get out. Sorry my write-up isn't vague about that part. I'm going to update it now, I didn't even realize it. If you need any help, shoot me a PM. Good luck man!

To be honest, I probably would've found it sooner if I hadn't seen your pictures (not being rude.) I am almost sure that the bolt you show as the 3rd AC compressor bolt in your pics isn't even the right bolt. If you look at your first and second pic here
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2138664&postcount=20
it shows you on a bolt that is barely under the valve cover. The bolts for the AC bracket are further down from the valve covers than that. In the second pic you're going in from by the headlight. There is a bolt that seemed to be in that exact spot that I undid with a swivel attachment just like you have in your pics, but it turned out to be one of the bolts that holds the inlet bracket to the head/motor. If you look at your 3rd pic you can see the holes for the front bolts. The rear bolt is at the exact same height and angle, just further towards the rear. I was able to get to it pretty easily by looking up from below right next to the motor mount (a tip someone gave me). I guess I could be wrong and maybe that's the right bolt, but if it were my writeup, to make it easier for future people I'd just take out those first two pics and just write in that tip to find it (look from below right next to the motor mount). I'd also make a quick mention that you need to remove the serpentine belt and how to do it.[up]

CruzS4
02-24-2009, 12:35 AM
nice setup!

that air leather steering wheel is sex btw

s4boost
02-24-2009, 03:01 AM
subscribed... cant wait to see the outcome! goodluck!

edit: save some money for a camera now! we'll need to see some videos[;)]

GramCracker
02-24-2009, 07:20 AM
Jib, where did you pick up that steering wheel?

McKennaS4
02-24-2009, 05:08 PM
super jealous bro. glad to see you're making that car the beast it deserves to be! GL and have fun with it!

lucajS4
02-24-2009, 05:49 PM
you really need clear corners or ecodes

GURUMAN
02-24-2009, 05:51 PM
This white car looks amazing !

jibberjive
02-24-2009, 06:05 PM
you really need clear corners or ecodes

If you're talking to me, take a sec and look at the pics a couple posts up[;)]

code7rpd
02-24-2009, 06:40 PM
Nice job - subscribed.

Dowskeet
02-24-2009, 08:38 PM
Looking forward to the progress and pictures. Keep up the good work bro.


Cheers

jibberjive
02-24-2009, 08:49 PM
subscribed... cant wait to see the outcome! goodluck!

edit: save some money for a camera now! we'll need to see some videos[;)]

My bro's got an HD camera that I'm going to borrow for any races/track days, so there'll be video[up]


Jib, where did you pick up that steering wheel?

Bought it slightly used from a dude on here.

Matt Danger
02-24-2009, 10:40 PM
Jib thanks for documenting this and taking lots of pictures. M3 & Jerbel's guides are great but the more the better.

washyourrhands
02-25-2009, 12:13 AM
congrats on the motor pull

keep truckin!

jibberjive
02-25-2009, 08:12 AM
Jib thanks for documenting this and taking lots of pictures. M3 & Jerbel's guides are great but the more the better.
This is more of just a build progress log, but I did take pics of all the connectors, routing of the pipes and every ziptie I cut. Maybe at the end if somebody wants me to I'll start another post with those or something.

dougyfresh
02-25-2009, 10:15 AM
Yup, I remember. I think with e85 and a solid tune you can get very close to the number I listed. I know of an RS6 car that put down 506ish on race at ASP. It later put down about 480ish. Should be interesting!

Vag Motorsport has the maf you need.

EPL has an RS6 hybrid car making over 500awhp with 93 and meth on their mustang dyno. I don't know if the motor has internal work done.






You know wats funny, all my friends laugh at me for having a headlamp, but you know you work on your S4 a lot if you have one. (plus I had it from camping, so it does double duty.)


Haha. I was getting picked on last weekend for wearing my Petzel while doing my friend's clutch. Works so well when you're standing underneath the car looking up. Hands'free FTW!



Jibber... Looking forward to following this. Keep it up. [up]

Everyone's jealous of the lift, huh?


last weekend here in CT:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3144/67481736.jpg

jibberjive
02-25-2009, 11:08 AM
EPL has an RS6 hybrid car making over 500awhp with 93 and meth on their mustang dyno. I don't know if the motor has internal work done.


My numbers won't be coming from EPL's mustang dyno and will likely be less.

Lifts are incredible eh?!

dougyfresh
02-25-2009, 06:20 PM
My numbers won't be coming from EPL's mustang dyno and will likely be less.

Lifts are incredible eh?!

Understood. You are doing exactly what I want to do once I buy an S4 (RS6 hybrids w/ connecting rods, etc..). Gotta finish up some stuff on my A4 before I go and find an S4 to build.


Curious, what was the driving decision on a 4 post lift?

A clean garage/workspace makes life so much easier. Good job thus far!

TweetsS4Estate
02-25-2009, 06:25 PM
[QUOTE=jibberjive;3181026]Here's the setup I'm working on and it should be done within the next little bit. I'll update this first post with new pics as it progresses.

Engine:
- Straight RS6 turbos - modified by JHM/ (http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_56_60_100_30&products_id=18)VAST (http://vastperformance.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=109)
- ASP DP's w/ the RS6 flanges welded on
- KO4 Inlets and Bipipes - GenJDM -- generationJDM@comcast.net
- ER SMIC's
- SDR X-1 Intake and RS4 accordian
- Ebay silicone tubes
- 2.8 heads w/ 2.7 cams
- Supertech valve springs/titanium retainers/Inconel exhaust valves
- Integrated Engineering Rods - Thanks Pete! (http://www.intengineering.com/Audi/Rods/Integrated-Engineering-p5619543-1-2.html)
- RS4 headgasket
- Clutch Masters Stage 4 FX400 6-puck w/ CM LWFW
- Custom E85 tune - Greg@SSP (http://www.audizine.com/forum/member.php?u=11477)
- Bosch 044 drop-in, 82lb Siemens Injectors, Bosch F5DPOR plugs - Greg@SSP (http://www.audizine.com/forum/member.php?u=11477)
- Big EFK - VAST (http://vastperformance.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=28_30&products_id=52)
- 034 Track Density Engine/Tranny Mounts, Apikol Rear Diff Mount - Issam@034 (http://www.audizine.com/forum/member.php?u=10540)
- Innovate Wideband
- JHM Hallman in-cabin MBC, SS, Shifter Linkage, Delrin Bushing - JHM (http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=21_56_60)
- Upgraded Alternator

Interior:
- RS4 shift knob
- B6 Ultrasport steering wheel and TT airbag
- Carbon fiber interior trim
- AWE new vent boost gauge

Exterior:
- Sport Mirrors (or maybe something crazy[:D])
- RS4 grill
- 20% Suntek Carbon Series Tint
- Depo E-codes
- 55W DDM HID Kit
- Carbon fiber engine covers (and maybe a couple other parts)

I did almost the exact same thing except for the VAST phenolic, VAST meth, AWE's, ceramic coated headers, everything JHM for the trans except a 6th gear, pauter rods, 60 lbs injectors (which I hope aren't going to max out), RS4 cams (no 2.8 heads), 3000k (hits objects with a yellow glow) HID fog lights, 6000k HID high beams, no alternater (just a JL audio's new TW5 sub with 2 alpine amps and old school MB quarts for interiors and tweeters (wish I'd gone Focal). No wheel (though yours is bad ass) no shifter (again bad ass) and EFU 4U which I am very excited about and haven't installed yet.

Things I have to save up and order:
-Dumps
-carbon fiber trim
-Lazer red B5 RS4 with a 3.0 L enforced block with RS6 hybrids and some other dream goodies!

Good luck with your set up! You picked the right stuff, I am always excited to hear about more RS6 guys out there. If you can get your hands on 2.8 cams, get them, they worked well with Gil's car at VAST.

TweetsS4Estate
02-25-2009, 06:36 PM
My guess is... you will make 481.5whp on e85

W/O meth I agree, but with I would say easy 500+ EASY! If anyone wants to argue with me they can because I haven't any numbers yet from my car seeing that it is still being painted and has been for 4 months...

badbiturbo
02-25-2009, 06:36 PM
Great build jibber! wow these 4 post lifts are alot more affordible than i thought, except for that 2 post one dougyfresh showed, that looks expensive.[eek] Seems like for the price of a used set of Real BBS LM's[:D] u could have something that could make working on ur car a heck of alot easier. Now all i need is a garage!!

AMC
02-25-2009, 06:57 PM
Hands'free FTW!
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3144/67481736.jpg

jackstands FTL!

jibberjive
02-26-2009, 12:35 AM
I did almost the exact same thing except for the VAST phenolic, VAST meth, AWE's, ceramic coated headers, everything JHM for the trans except a 6th gear, pauter rods, 60 lbs injectors (which I hope aren't going to max out), RS4 cams (no 2.8 heads), 3000k (hits objects with a yellow glow) HID fog lights, 6000k HID high beams, no alternater (just a JL audio's new TW5 sub with 2 alpine amps and old school MB quarts for interiors and tweeters (wish I'd gone Focal). No wheel (though yours is bad ass) no shifter (again bad ass) and EFU 4U which I am very excited about and haven't installed yet.

Things I have to save up and order:
-Dumps
-carbon fiber trim
-Lazer red B5 RS4 with a 3.0 L enforced block with RS6 hybrids and some other dream goodies!

Good luck with your set up! You picked the right stuff, I am always excited to hear about more RS6 guys out there. If you can get your hands on 2.8 cams, get them, they worked well with Gil's car at VAST.
I wouldn't say that my first list is exhaustively complete. I'm going to be running 034's phoenlic spacers and likely electric dumps as well. I would consider meth, but it wouldn't likely do much when I'm running 115 octane E85 daily[:D] I'm pretty sure you won't run out of injector with the 60lbers at all, cause RS6's aren't THAT much bigger than normal KO4's. The only reason I'm going with 82lbers is because I'm going to be running the E85, which requires ~30% more fuel than normal gas. So your headlights are 3000k, but your fogs are HID (stock 4300k I assume?)? If so, interesting choice. Good luck though! When's your setup's ETA?



Curious, what was the driving decision on a 4 post lift?

A clean garage/workspace makes life so much easier. Good job thus far!
A nice garage helps so much! I've only had it that way for a couple weeks now, and I can't get over it.

I was actually considering all sorts of different 2 and 4 post lifts. Way budget 2 posts can actually be had a decent amount cheaper than this budget 4 post. Some of my reasoning for going 4 post was:

- I wanted to be able to possibly store a car on top for long storage periods if need be (sort of an extra parking space at my house if need be). I hear it's better to store cars with the suspension loaded so that it doesn't mess with the components.

- I wasn't sure about the concrete in the shop where I was putting it and I didn't want to have to deal with reinforcing the concrete if necessary. With the 4 post it doesn't even need to be bolted down, and with the casters it came with I can even wheel the lift around the shop with the car on it!

- I'm not sure what the near future holds. I may purchase a house sometime soon (I don't own one yet) and for ease of moving it and not having to bolt it down in the new place, the 4 post just seemed easier. Plus, IIRC the actual posts on this are quite a bit shorter than the 2 posts, which is a big plus if I decide to put it in a normal residential garage.


With the sliding bridge jack, I can pretty much jack up the front or rear of the car as easily as I could with a 2 post as well. The only downside for me was the price, but this lift wasn't too much more than the 2 posts I was looking at, and since getting it and setting it up I really realize how good of a value this lift in particular is.


W/O meth I agree, but with I would say easy 500+ EASY! If anyone wants to argue with me they can because I haven't any numbers yet from my car seeing that it is still being painted and has been for 4 months...

Meth wouldn't do much of anything for me either like I said, because of the E85 and ER SMIC's. I'm not saying anything about your car or whatever dyno you are going to run it on, but with my particular setup I'll be SUPER stoked if I break 500whp. Deb made that guess based on the particular heartbreaker dyno I'm going to be using (for example I'm GIAC stage 2 + (ASP DP's and APR SRT catback) and I dynoed 225whp and 271 wtq on that dyno with race gas on the race program (though that wasn't the car's full potential because I had a bad EGT and 02 sensor that was causing enrichment.)) I found out when I pulled the passenger 02 that the wires were actually severed ha. Either way, on a happier dyno and at sea level (I'm at 4300ft) I have no doubt that my setup could possibly put a 500+whp number.

jibberjive
02-26-2009, 12:58 AM
Also, my X-1 intake came in today:) Haven't had time to take pictures yet though

GURUMAN
02-26-2009, 04:03 AM
I'm jealous of your setup to work on the car, look what I used on my previous engine pull[>_<]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/Dom015.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/Dom014.jpg

TweetsS4Estate
02-26-2009, 05:53 AM
I wouldn't say that my first list is exhaustively complete. I'm going to be running 034's phoenlic spacers and likely electric dumps as well. I would consider meth, but it wouldn't likely do much when I'm running 115 octane E85 daily[:D] I'm pretty sure you won't run out of injector with the 60lbers at all, cause RS6's aren't THAT much bigger than normal KO4's. The only reason I'm going with 82lbers is because I'm going to be running the E85, which requires ~30% more fuel than normal gas. So your headlights are 3000k, but your fogs are HID (stock 4300k I assume?)? If so, interesting choice. Good luck though! When's your setup's ETA?


A nice garage helps so much! I've only had it that way for a couple weeks now, and I can't get over it.

I was actually considering all sorts of different 2 and 4 post lifts. Way budget 2 posts can actually be had a decent amount cheaper than this budget 4 post. Some of my reasoning for going 4 post was:

- I wanted to be able to possibly store a car on top for long storage periods if need be (sort of an extra parking space at my house if need be). I hear it's better to store cars with the suspension loaded so that it doesn't mess with the components.

- I wasn't sure about the concrete in the shop where I was putting it and I didn't want to have to deal with reinforcing the concrete if necessary. With the 4 post it doesn't even need to be bolted down, and with the casters it came with I can even wheel the lift around the shop with the car on it!

- I'm not sure what the near future holds. I may purchase a house sometime soon (I don't own one yet) and for ease of moving it and not having to bolt it down in the new place, the 4 post just seemed easier. Plus, IIRC the actual posts on this are quite a bit shorter than the 2 posts, which is a big plus if I decide to put it in a normal residential garage.


With the sliding bridge jack, I can pretty much jack up the front or rear of the car as easily as I could with a 2 post as well. The only downside for me was the price, but this lift wasn't too much more than the 2 posts I was looking at, and since getting it and setting it up I really realize how good of a value this lift in particular is.



Meth wouldn't do much of anything for me either like I said, because of the E85 and ER SMIC's. I'm not saying anything about your car or whatever dyno you are going to run it on, but with my particular setup I'll be SUPER stoked if I break 500whp. Deb made that guess based on the particular heartbreaker dyno I'm going to be using (for example I'm GIAC stage 2 + (ASP DP's and APR SRT catback) and I dynoed 225whp and 271 wtq on that dyno with race gas on the race program (though that wasn't the car's full potential because I had a bad EGT and 02 sensor that was causing enrichment.)) I found out when I pulled the passenger 02 that the wires were actually severed ha. Either way, on a happier dyno and at sea level (I'm at 4300ft) I have no doubt that my setup could possibly put a 500+whp number.


The head lights are a little different than that. My brother and I are a dealer of HID conversion kits. The 3000k (fog lights) are an even lower temp bulb that are actually yellow, not the off color 4300k head lights, which I am leaving in the lowbeams (or possibly getting 6000 bulbs but I have heard it makes little-no difference). I will take pictures and show you when she gets done being painted. Also the set up has already been completed, the only thing I am yet to install is the dumps and some interior goodies. I have only heard of E85 having the burn quality of 110 I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure thats what it is. I will be logging E85 in my car next weekend and messing with it I can give you what it is kinda going to look like. It was going to be this weekend but the painter keeps delaying everything so I must wait another. I haven't seen any flow numbers or cooling numbers substantially better than the AWE's on a Log personally, but I still think you could use some meth on a hot day and if you want to run a even more aggressive race tune. Offset some of that hot boost with it. An intercooler can only cool it to ambient air temp where the meth goes even lower.

I'm excited to see this go together. Where are you from?

Are you doing anything for suspension? I went the H&R route and love'em but I've heard more praise of the vogland gt's..

I wasn't referring to my car but another car with a stock block meth and turbo blue which is 110 and dumps. He made over 500 awhp, and over 535 awftlbs on a mustang dyno. I understand you can go to two different dynos in a day, both being mustangs and have 30-50 wheel horse difference but I am confident if you were to run Meth and E85, which may be 115 but you can still run more boost and some meth to off set the heat. I would think you will pull off a 500 horse pull. I guess we will see when you run it on a dyno! Good luck again!

TweetsS4Estate
02-26-2009, 06:33 AM
http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Page?template=Myths

I found this website it has a lot of good information. I didn't check out it's sources but I think its still good to read up on. Since you are going to be running E85 all of the time it might help to look it over. Also it says that the octane rating of E85 is 105, so we have another number that is being thrown around...
Hope this helps.

nateS4
02-26-2009, 07:06 AM
Nice set up. Good to see more DIYs pulling engines.

tsbpenguin
02-26-2009, 07:48 AM
Damn a couple people on 3L told me they were watching your RS6 build but I didn't know you were doing such a badass build. I should be doing something similiar within the next 4-6 months. Gotta get a paint job and some maintenance goodies before i start throwing money into turbos though. Officially subscribed.
Pearl white b5 s4 sedans ftmfw!

dougyfresh
02-26-2009, 09:25 AM
A nice garage helps so much! I've only had it that way for a couple weeks now, and I can't get over it.

I was actually considering all sorts of different 2 and 4 post lifts. Way budget 2 posts can actually be had a decent amount cheaper than this budget 4 post. Some of my reasoning for going 4 post was:

- I wanted to be able to possibly store a car on top for long storage periods if need be (sort of an extra parking space at my house if need be). I hear it's better to store cars with the suspension loaded so that it doesn't mess with the components.

- I wasn't sure about the concrete in the shop where I was putting it and I didn't want to have to deal with reinforcing the concrete if necessary. With the 4 post it doesn't even need to be bolted down, and with the casters it came with I can even wheel the lift around the shop with the car on it!

- I'm not sure what the near future holds. I may purchase a house sometime soon (I don't own one yet) and for ease of moving it and not having to bolt it down in the new place, the 4 post just seemed easier. Plus, IIRC the actual posts on this are quite a bit shorter than the 2 posts, which is a big plus if I decide to put it in a normal residential garage.


With the sliding bridge jack, I can pretty much jack up the front or rear of the car as easily as I could with a 2 post as well. The only downside for me was the price, but this lift wasn't too much more than the 2 posts I was looking at, and since getting it and setting it up I really realize how good of a value this lift in particular is.


Good reasoning for a 4post.

We built the garage so we had the luxury of reinforcing the concrete where appropriate and getting the proper thickness and load carry capability where the 2-post would be placed. If we were to do it again we'd still stay with a 2post but get the overhead hydraulic lines. The lines on the floor (the lift we got) are annoying.

We also store cars up there quite often. I haven't read up on the cons of storing a car with the suspension un-loaded. Off the top of my head I would wager unloaded storage would stress the bushings in the control arms since they are all torqued down with the suspension loaded.

Keep up the good work [up]. I'll be reading.

Dr. Jekyll
02-26-2009, 05:56 PM
My numbers won't be coming from EPL's mustang dyno and will likely be less.

Lifts are incredible eh?!


So 180whp is high for a stock S4?


And yes Doug, Dave's RS6 car does have a built engine.

jibberjive
02-26-2009, 08:09 PM
So this came in today to go in the place of the RS4 airbox.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2260006.jpg


I'm jealous of your setup to work on the car, look what I used on my previous engine pull[>_<]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/Dom015.jpg

That's no fun! With as much as it seems you like to work on your own cars, a cheap lift seems like a worthy investment.


The head lights are a little different than that. ... I have only heard of E85 having the burn quality of 110 I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure thats what it is. I will be logging E85 in my car next weekend and messing with it I can give you what it is kinda going to look like. I haven't seen any flow numbers or cooling numbers substantially better than the AWE's on a Log personally, but I still think you could use some meth on a hot day and if you want to run a even more aggressive race tune. Offset some of that hot boost with it. An intercooler can only cool it to ambient air temp where the meth goes even lower.

I'm excited to see this go together. Where are you from?

Are you doing anything for suspension? I went the H&R route and love'em but I've heard more praise of the vogland gt's..

I wasn't referring to my car but another car with a stock block meth and turbo blue which is 110 and dumps. He made over 500 awhp, and over 535 awftlbs on a mustang dyno. I understand you can go to two different dynos in a day, both being mustangs and have 30-50 wheel horse difference but I am confident if you were to run Meth and E85, which may be 115 but you can still run more boost and some meth to off set the heat. I would think you will pull off a 500 horse pull. I guess we will see when you run it on a dyno! Good luck again!
Ah, I see about the lights. I thought you were putting the yellow bulbs in the lows and the stock HID's in the fogs, that's why I said it was interesting cause I would do it the opposite (the way you really are doing it[up]).

I've seen varying octane ratings for E85 from when I was researching it, and thought I remembered some range like 105-120 oct (maybe I'm getting it mixed up with pure ethanol.) The octane rating is definitely lower in the winter when they switch up the mixture to less Ethanol. Either way, what the exact octane rating is doesn't really matter to me; it's going to be a custom tune and we don't tune based off of octane ratings.

Are you getting custom tuned for E85, or were you thinking of just throwing a tank into your setup that is tuned for normal gas and logging it? If the latter, don't do it! You could have some major issues and possibly ruin your motor!

As for the AWE's vs. ER SMIC's, I didn't really look super deep into the logs and whatnot, I was just going on the account of everybody saying their ER's are superior to the AWE's and almost noone even tries to contradict that. I'm not going to run meth because I'm not looking to absolutely tweak out my tune to the max. I'm running E85 because there's local stations that carry it and it'll be nice to run the equivalent of race gas daily for the same price as normal gas. This will be my daily driver so my tune will probably be somewhat conservative for the E85 (I just don't want ANY detonation at my altitude and whatnot), so I'm thinking I'll prob run around 25 psi daily, but we'll see when I actually get there. Plus, meth is just another factor that I don't want to have to worry about malfunctioning, the simpler the system, the less parts that can go wrong. The benefits don't outweigh the downsides for me.

I'm in UT. I'm already currently running H&R coilover's for suspension.

Like I said, at my elevation and on that particular dyno, I don't necessarily expect to put out 500+whp, but like you said as well, we'll see what the truth is when it actually happens


http://www.change2e85.com/servlet/Page?template=Myths

I found this website it has a lot of good information. I didn't check out it's sources but I think its still good to read up on. Since you are going to be running E85 all of the time it might help to look it over. Also it says that the octane rating of E85 is 105, so we have another number that is being thrown around...
Hope this helps.

Thanks for the link. I've actually done a ton of research on the E85, so that one doesn't really say anything new, but I appreciate it non-the-less. If you are going to be running E85 and are looking for some really good, detailed reads, PM me and I'll send you some killer links[up]


Damn a couple people on 3L told me they were watching your RS6 build but I didn't know you were doing such a badass build.


What's 3L?



Pearl white b5 s4 sedans ftmfw!

*Casablanca white[;)] Pearls are beautiful too though[:)]


So 180whp is high for a stock S4?


Having never personally been on EPL's dyno I am by no means commenting on that dyno reading high or low, rather since I have already baselined on the dyno that I'm going to be using, I personally have my doubts about my personal setup breaking 500whp on this particular dyno. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this dyno at this elevation does indeed read lower than EPL's. It's a well known heartbreaker dyno. It's Cobb Tuning's Mustang dyno in case you want to research it.

TweetsS4Estate
02-27-2009, 10:27 PM
[QUOTE=jibberjive;3428028]So this came in today to go in the place of the RS4 airbox.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2260006.jpg



Ah, I see about the lights. I thought you were putting the yellow bulbs in the lows and the stock HID's in the fogs, that's why I said it was interesting cause I would do it the opposite (the way you really are doing it[up]).

I've seen varying octane ratings for E85 from when I was researching it, and thought I remembered some range like 105-120 oct (maybe I'm getting it mixed up with pure ethanol.) The octane rating is definitely lower in the winter when they switch up the mixture to less Ethanol. Either way, what the exact octane rating is doesn't really matter to me; it's going to be a custom tune and we don't tune based off of octane ratings.

Are you getting custom tuned for E85, or were you thinking of just throwing a tank into your setup that is tuned for normal gas and logging it? If the latter, don't do it! You could have some major issues and possibly ruin your motor!

As for the AWE's vs. ER SMIC's, I didn't really look super deep into the logs and whatnot, I was just going on the account of everybody saying their ER's are superior to the AWE's and almost noone even tries to contradict that. I'm not going to run meth because I'm not looking to absolutely tweak out my tune to the max. I'm running E85 because there's local stations that carry it and it'll be nice to run the equivalent of race gas daily for the same price as normal gas. This will be my daily driver so my tune will probably be somewhat conservative for the E85 (I just don't want ANY detonation at my altitude and whatnot), so I'm thinking I'll prob run around 25 psi daily, but we'll see when I actually get there. Plus, meth is just another factor that I don't want to have to worry about malfunctioning, the simpler the system, the less parts that can go wrong. The benefits don't outweigh the downsides for me.

I'm in UT. I'm already currently running H&R coilover's for suspension.

Like I said, at my elevation and on that particular dyno, I don't necessarily expect to put out 500+whp, but like you said as well, we'll see what the truth is when it actually happens



Thanks for the link. I've actually done a ton of research on the E85, so that one doesn't really say anything new, but I appreciate it non-the-less. If you are going to be running E85 and are looking for some really good, detailed reads, PM me and I'll send you some killer links[up]

Awesome, I was hoping to be able to have my injectors keep up with an E85 tune. I think that my 60lb'ers would be running at too high of a duty cycle. I don't know if pushing my injectors that hard is worth it. I can use my brothers 96lbers from his 04 cobra (single 80mm borgwarner set up) but that might be a little excessive [>_<] thats how you gotta roll!

funny just saw this, Chappell: "what did the five fingers say to the FACE.... SLAP BITCH!!"

I wasn't just going to log a straight E85 tune though I was going to adjust before hand and talk with Mike @ vast before I did anything. Thanks for all of the tips, I don't know too much about the ER's, I was told that the AWE's flow better, but don't cool as well.. maybe I heard wrong. They are the new generation AWEs new Caps.

I understand about not wanting to use the Meth, I agree about simple mechanics. The thing is for me, I would like to squeze as much power as possible because I am an Avant and you sedan guys have 200 lbs less than I do. Again, good luck on everything ,it's always nice to hear of new RS6 guys out there. Beautiful car BTW!

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:40 AM
2/21/09

So, onto the pull. The AC compressor was just held in by the back bolt, which is way easy to get to from underneath by the motor mount. I was confused by looking at the pics in M3 to S4's writeup cause there he makes it seem like the 3rd bolt is right below the driver's side head. So the bolt I took out there was actually one of the bolts that holds on the inlet support[headbang] Plus it was 4am, so my faculties weren't as sharp as they would've otherwise been[>_<]

Disconnecting the ECU etc.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2210029.jpg

All sensors/hoses/lines disconnected, AC compressor/condenser swung to the side and getting ready to pull
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220046.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220047.jpg

Hooking up the chains and load leveler
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220049.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220051.jpg

Part of the way out to disconnect the slave cylinder, fish out the heater core hoses, and take off the tranny mounts. The coolant never stops coming![evilmad] I'm under there in a pool of coolant trying to do this stuff and make sure it gets out cleanly, and the never ending drip of coolant is getting all over everywhere that I just cleaned 10 times. If there's a way to completely purge the coolant system before the whole procedure, I'd do that in a heartbeat. This part actually took alot longer than I had expected. We tried it with the tranny mounts on at first, but that wasn't working and it took me a good minute to figure out how to take the tranny mounts off (didn't know it was just one bolt on top below the heatshield). Sitting under there holding the tranny to help it all out cleanly I put the back of my head on the open end of the driveshaft that is filled with grease a bunch of times.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220053.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220056.jpg

"I once caught a fish THIS big."
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220062.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220066.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220067.jpg

No engine
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220068.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220061.jpg

The parts (minus the front bumper)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220065.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2210013.jpg

The towel after I wiped the back of my hair only twice
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P2220069.jpg

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:41 AM
I held off the update until I was able to post pics this time.

So all last Sat. night I was breaking down my engine. I cannot believe how complicated all of the peripheral electronics/coolant/oil lines are! I went slow and took my time and it took forever. I tried to label where each connection came from with painter's tape and took tons of pics of all the lines (don't worry I won't them here). I've sold the motor that came out of my car, so I'm just breaking it down to get ready to ship.

Pics

Taking off the tranny
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3573.jpg

Tranny off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3575.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3576.jpg

This is the bolt I took off thinking it was the AC compressor rear bolt
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3578.jpg

Since I sold the turbos with the motor I was trying to leave them and the inlets mounted, which proved to be a pain when trying to unbolt the motor mounts and get the starter out. I ended up having to pull the inlets.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3588.jpg

Alty out
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3598.jpg

Motor mount was broken
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3608.jpg

All of these tight bolts in small places and hoses that are a pain to slip off, I beat the crap out of my hands MANY times. This fan part was like razorblades when working anywhere near it.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3706.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3612.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3611.jpg

KO3 turbos with 56k mi were actually in really good shape
Driver's side
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3625.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3624.jpg

Pass Side
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3686.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3691.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3647.jpg

An example of how I tried to label all of the parts
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3658.jpg

I took the intake mani off with everything still connected (injectors, fuel rail, wiring harness, coil packs, TB, etc) to try to keep it as simple as possible.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3674.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3667.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3669.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3683.jpg

These hoses were a pain to pull off without tearing them. After trying to wiggle them out I found out that the hardlines they're connected to have to stay with the motor since I'm leaving all of the timing components together.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3709.jpg

When I was working on one of the random hoses it kept leaking after I thought I emptied it and I had a huge puddle in my lap. Looks like I peed my pants.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3718.jpg

These oil and coolant line bolts really are as much of a pain as everyone says! I somehow got them all off with just normal sets of wrenches (and lots of frustration!) It was too late to go buy any tools.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3722.jpg

Finally just about how I'm going to send her off.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3724.jpg

Clutch off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3725.jpg

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:42 AM
Ready to pack up and ship out.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3731.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3732.jpg

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http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3735.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3736.jpg

Packaged up
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3738.jpg

Here's the new motor that I'm going to build (in the rear of this pic)

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3583.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3584.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3585.jpg

One difference between the motors that I noticed that I'd never heard before was on the 01.5'+ motor this cover is plastic when on the 00' it's metal.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3602.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_3603.jpg

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:43 AM
6/11/09

EDIT 5/23/10 ** I've since sold these heads and have built a different set of 2.8 heads with the same hardware.

So I've got completed heads. They were hottanked, decked, 3-angle valve job, valve seats modified for 1mm oversize intake valves, and new guides and seals were installed.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180052.jpg

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A closeup of the combi valve threaded shut
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180035.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180039.jpg

A little more sprucing up of the shop with a new poster[:)]
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180013.jpg

So...onto to the work. Here's how the interior of my car currently sits (I pulled the trim to replace with CF.) You can also see the brand new suntek carbon series 20% tint a little.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5110148.jpg

I had to move the S4 off the lift so I could work on some other cars, but the driveline was dangling to the ground because it's disconnected. We had to thread 2 huge zipties that we put end to end up through the shifter boot/box and put around the shifter with the lower end around the driveline to hold it up so we could push the car around.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5110150.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5110147.jpg

Getting the motor bolted onto the stand was the most time consuming/difficult part of the motor breakdown (the motor breakdown itself is really not difficult at all.)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150170.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_4016.jpg

On stand, ready to get to business. Notice how the cam gears aren't lined up with each other.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150179.jpg

Timing belt and stuff off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150181.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150182.jpg

Heads off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150193.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150194.jpg

Turns out one bank has bent valves from a slipped timing belt. Good thing I'm putting on those all-new 2.8 heads and replacing that bank of pistons with good OEM pistons. Can you guess which bank?
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150196.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150197.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150198.jpg

Bank 1
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150183.jpg

Bank 2
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150189.jpg

Waterpump and all peripheral accessories gone
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190062.jpg

Lower oil pan off
Oil pump assembly and upper oil pan
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190069.jpg

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:45 AM
Upper oil pan off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190081.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190075.jpg

Oil pump out and how she currently sits while I find 3 OEM pistons.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190084.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190089.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190090.jpg


2/19/2011 ** ALMOST A TWO YEAR GAP!!

Got a package today

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_5846.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_5847.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_5852.jpg

I sold my other heads that were already built, so I'm in the process of building a different set of 2.8 heads that I have. Tomorrow I'm going to pull the rotating assembly out of the block, and as soon as my piston rings come in, it's off to get balanced.

And these came in, so I'm hoping to get some motor stuff going this weekend.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_5861.jpg

Got some 80mm TB's for the car as well for when the time comes.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_5865.jpg



3/7/2011

It felt weird to actually get back in the shop and do some work again, complete with bloody forearms and bruised palm ha. I got my block most of the way torn down over the weekend to get it honed/decked and to get the heads under way. I was surprised at how flawless the bores looked with all of the crosshatching perfectly intact, and the pistons looked really good with just wiping them down with a paper towel. I was also surprised at how heavy the block with just the crank is. I was alone and I took the motor off the stand to put into the trunk, and it was probably the heaviest thing I have ever lifted on my own (and I weigh ~135lbs). Threw out my freaking back ha.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0058.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0060.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_5871.jpg


4/26/2011

Small update. I'll let the pics do the talking, I'm designing the surge tank (or should I say over-designing lol, it probably would've been good enough to just get up there with a tape measure). And at the end are pics of some parts waiting to be powder coated. I've also picked up my rotating assembly, so the engine assembly will happen as soon as I get some time.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6013.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6020.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6021.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6022.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6024.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6026.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6032-1.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6037.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6049.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6054.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6051.jpg



5/19/2011

Some more peeks at powder coated goodness. I won't be posting any of the color pics until the motor is assembled.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/IMG_6176.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/IMG_6179.jpg

And just for other people's reference, probably not worth the effort to powdercoat the top oil pan. I probably wouldn't do it again if I were to start over.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6156.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6158.jpg

Before

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6132.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6133.jpg

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:47 AM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6197.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6205.jpg


Lets see if anyone can guess what color this rod comes out to be.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6214.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6226.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6228.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6236.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6144.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6153.jpg

The black braided lines in the post above the last are full PTFE (read: teflon) black stainless braided lines. I was going to go with the "push-loc" type, but, after a lot of research, I didn't want to worry about a possible gas smell, and I wanted to do the lines once, and do them right without having to worry about potentially re-running them in a couple of years.

Good article on this here: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/hrdp_1101_performance_fuel_hoses/index.html

Super special "cats"

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6151.jpg

V-bands

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6147.jpg


7/1/2011

Pictures of some final parts.

This thing is the key to my home-made ethanol content analyzer/ fuel temp gauge.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6825.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6829.jpg


Got all my monitoring equipment in, and if anyone needs anything Zeitronix, I can get you the best price you will find.
Zetronix ZT-2 w/ LCD screen and a ton of other accessories.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6832.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6833.jpg


Stern engine and tranny mounts, Mike at Ringer Racing and PureMS are both good places to get them.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6838.jpg


ARP Main Studs, Eurospec non-stretch headbolts, V-band gaskets and billet stuff. Found out the Eurospec headbolts are cheapest straight from Eurospec.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_6839.jpg


I think I just need to order my maf and housing, and I'll technically have all of the hardware that I need to get the thing on the road.


8/8/2011

Painting the block

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0246.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0249.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0251.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0256.jpg



8/24/2011



So...finally a nice, fat update, with a ton of pics. Over the past few days I assembled the heads and bottom end. I also made an excel spread sheet with all of the consolidated tolerances, specs, and tips that I've accrued throughout my research over the years. I hope to take a little of the mystery out of the DIY, for anyone that might want to attempt it on their own. If you print it in landscape format, it's 3 pages where you can write the measurements of your engine in.

Missing Document Link!

Anywho, onto pics. There's nothing glamorous nor too fun about blueprinting an engine, it took alot of time and was a little bit of a pain. Each one of these pics took like 1hr+ of work, since I'm kind of a meticulous perfectionist sometimes. It's done though!

Getting ready to assemble the heads
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7230.jpg

Washing all of the parts (this is part that took forever, since I washed pretty much every part in the top and bottom end)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7234.jpg

Plastigaging the cam caps
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7236.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7238.jpg

Assembly lube, used a ton of this
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7239.jpg

I checked it like 5+ times and am 99% sure the timing is correct, but a second/third set of eyes is always beneficial. Let me know if the timing on this driver's head looks correct to you.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7246.jpg

Completely assembled after everything was washed, platigaged, lubed, timed and torqued
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7243.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7249.jpg

Ready for the bottom end
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7264.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7266.jpg

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:48 AM
ARP main studs and bearings
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7273.jpg

Plastigaging the crank bearings
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7277.jpg

The ARP moly lube is key to getting correct torque specs
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7278.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7282.jpg

Well within spec
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7283.jpg

They're all at least ~.050mm
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7287.jpg

Got a big workout and torqued them down to 65 ftlbs for the 3rd time (not the easiest when the block isn't mounted to an engine stand)

Pistons and rods to be assembled. The circlips are officially a huge pain to do, and I've got a sensitive thumb now ha.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7291.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7293.jpg

Checking crank axial tolerance
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7298.jpg

Gapping the rings. My ring file I fabbed ha.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7294.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7297.jpg

Checking the rings (3 x 6 = 18 rings to check/gap). Be careful checking the top compression ring, because it's so hard that it can easily scratch the bore if you're not careful.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7305.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7303.jpg

Assembled with rings
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7307.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7308.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7309.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7310.jpg

Plastigaging the rod bearings
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7312.jpg

All assembled, torqued and ready to take up to my shop to put on the engine stand and put the rest of the accessories on before throwing it back into the car!
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7313.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7314.jpg


Plan of attack from here is to get the car running on the stock fuel pump while I finish the intake manifold and surge tank. I hope to have it running soon!



9/8/2011

Engine assembly updates. I actually did this like 2 weeks ago, but I got so frustrated with it that I just barely got motivation to post pics. Key takeaway from this post, IF YOU WANT PLUG AND PLAY INSTALLATION, DO NOT GET THE ARP MAIN STUDS. You'll see why in these pics. At least the engine looks good lol.

So it started with the upper oil pan install. I got a surprise when the oil pan wouldn't seat right. I found out that the ARP main studs that I was explicitly told by 034 motorsports that they required no clearancing, because I have the uneven main studs, turned out to be anything but "no modification."

You can see them hitting the webbing here, and the 2nd pic is through the gap between where the pan should seat (you can see the casting webbing on the oil pan hitting the top of the stud).

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7320-Copy-Copy.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7322-Copy-Copy.jpg

This wouldn't be the biggest deal if I were a fabricator or welder, with different cutting tools and whatnot, but I only have mechanic's tools and I had everything all perfectly cleaned and laid out, ready to just install (and I do most of my work in the middle of the night, when no stores are open to get anything). Luckily, I brought my dremel and an angle grinder that I bought at Harbor Freight just a couple of days before.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7323-Copy-Copy.jpg

The grinding in general was a major pain, because I would have to go cover up the engine with an engine bag, cut the oil pan a little bit (using my dark sunglasses as eye protection because they were the only thing around), blow it out then clean out the entire oil pan again with liquid and wipe it all down to clear out all of the metal shavings and metal powder that gets between all of the webbings (so that they don't drop into the motor when I fit it), go test fit it only to find out it needs more clearance, or that it now hits in a different spot. Rinse and repeat literally 10+ times just for the upper oil pan (there's more later).

I started clearancing where the longer studs were.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7324-Copy-Copy.jpg

Then I found out I have to clearance the shorter inner studs as well.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7325-Copy-Copy.jpg

Then I found out it hits on the webbing on the ends as well (you can see the nicks where the bolts were hitting).

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7326-Copy.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7327-Copy.jpg

This was a huge pain, because I had to use my dremel, which isn't the most powerful and is the kind that runs off of an Li battery. The dremel would overheat, and I would have to wait like 20 mins for it to cool down, and then it would run out of battery, so I'd have to wait for it to charge (I only have one battery). Dremel, overheat, dremel, charge battery, clean entire pan, test fit, find out it still doesn't fit, cover up engine, repeat previous steps another 10+ times.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7331-Copy.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7332-Copy.jpg

Finally, what it looked like after literally 4+ hours or crapping with it (I know, I'm a slow, inefficient perfectionist).

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7333-Copy.jpg

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:49 AM
Got the upper oil pan clearanced and installed, then I used this high-temp silicone tape that I have for powdercoating to fashion an install ring for the front main seal.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7334-Copy.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7335-Copy.jpg

Then I got another awesome surprise, courtesy of the ARP main studs

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7336-Copy.jpg

Not seated

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7340-Copy.jpg

That's a brand new $130 oil pump that's now useless. The oil pump sat pretty well in its place, but apparently the studs hit the bottom of this as well, leaving like a .5cm gap on the bottom. When torquing them to the factory 25Nm spec, the cast pump broke because of the main bolts (the bolts hit in a spot that isn't visible from the top). So I've got a brand new, broken pump. I haven't talked to 034 yet about the main bolts and broken oil pump.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7337-Copy.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7343-Copy.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7344-Copy.jpg



Anywho, so after all that (now on my second night of unprepared clearancing work, on something that I expected to have completely assembled in one night), I then had fall back on using the oil pump that I pulled out of the engine (luckily the pump only has like 40k mi on it), because I had time to work on it then, and not later, so I didn't have time to wait for a new pump to be shipped. I went through the same process of overheating dremel, cleaning, etc 400k times to clearance the oil pump (and be careful not to take off too much of the structural casting).

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7345.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7347.jpg

Another tip, put the oil pump, and sprocket, on before the upper oil pan, or you may have to do this because of the clearance

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7353.jpg

Pump and upper oil pan finally on

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7354.jpg


Lower pan on

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7355.jpg

Valley cover on

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7356.jpg

This is the thin washer (that apparently has no part # in ETKA?) that goes between the crank sprocket and the crank

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7357.jpg

Stretch torquing the crank bolt (can you say cheater bar?)

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7360.jpg


The passenger head's cams get off of TDC when installing the cams, so I used the cam lock bar to turn them into place before installing them on the bottom end

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7363.jpg

Final timing check (passenger head)

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7365.jpg

Heads on and torqued, and then I realized something devastaing: There was a missing dowel pin that keeps the leaf spring tensioned on the oil pump chain tensioner[headbang] It must have got lost over the last 2 years, because it wasn't with my old FMS, nor in any of my bags. If anyone has a random one of these, please let me know. So I had to go back and take off the lower oil pan that I just RTV siliconed (cleaning off that fresh silicone was a major pain, and I still have to do it for the FMS part) and remove the FMS to install that pin before I proceed.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7369.jpg

Here, with the FMS off, you can see the clearancing that had to be done on the oil pump

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7382.jpg

I wanted to do what I could, so I started assembling stuff that wouldn't interfere with reinstalling the FMS and oil pan. Here's the elbow that I got from Lowes to bypass the aux water pump.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7368.jpg

Sprayed it with a little black

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7370.jpg

Cleaned up every part and every hose that I installed, and sprayed some of the stuff with black to clean it up

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7362.jpg

Threw on what timing parts and coolant hoses I could, and this is how I left her

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7388.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7387.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7390.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_7391.jpg



9/13/2011

Pics for the updates from this last weekend. Dowels from ACE hardware that I had to work with to make it fit.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0394.jpg

Then I was able to put the FMS and oil pan back on. Then I got the rest of the timing stuff on.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0395.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0399.jpg

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:50 AM
Then I go to bolt on the turbos, and I find that the elbow welded onto the inlet on the passenger side compressor hits a knob on the block, and interferes so I can't bolt the flange all of the way down

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0405.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0407.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0422.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0404.jpg

I was debating between figuring out what that knub on the block does, and grinding it down if it doesn't do anything, but I ended up reclocking the turbo slightly so that I have a mm or two clearance after bolted up. I've sent an email to Markku at Agtronic to see what he suggests, but I'm hoping that it doesn't interfere with the frame rail or anything else when I go to reinstall the engine. I know it's a tight fit under there.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0424.jpg

So, then I go onto making some lines for the oil and coolant to the turbos, since many parts of the ATP turbo line kit were either mis-sized or simply incomplete. I bought these -10 AN adapters from 034 to make the oil return lines, and when I went to fit them into the oil pan, I got yet another awesome surprise. One of the adapters was noticeably different than the other, and it was too large to into the oil pan (in spite of the parts being taken from the same hotdog-link type connected packaging. I've sent an email to Max (since that is who I originally dealt with), and hopefully he is willing to send a replacement asap so that I can potentially install the engine this next weekend.

The good one

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0410.jpg

The bad one

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0413.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0416.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0417.jpg

I used the one that fits to measure some lines, and I'm just waiting on a couple of fittings that will hopefully be here this week.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0419.jpg

Coolant line

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMAG0429.jpg

So, just need to wrap up the turbo lines (which, following suit, were a pretty nagging thing to deal with), then I could potentially do the rest of the big items and get the engine running on a base map!

I'll pull a BigBoost, with a checklist (as much for myself as for the build log). Not necessarily in order.

Checklist:
1. Finish up turbo lines (Get replacement 034 oil pan adapter, get oil inlet lines modified, assemble rest of lines, get fire sleeving)
2. Get flywheel bolts ground down
3. Powerwash engine bay and undercarriage
4. Polish bipipes
5. Assemble rest of engine (serpentine assembly, intake mani, flywheel, tranny, etc)
6. Do 'big 3' wiring upgrade with 0 ga, and wire car for trunk battery relocation, install wideband and sensors (Zeitronix, WB02, EGT, Boost)
7. Reinstall engine
8. Install ER's
8.5. Install HID kit and Depo headlights
9. Startup!
9.5. Install interior
10. Get exhaust installed ('cats' , v-bands, and extra resonator welded in)
11. Break it in and tweak the tune!
12. Finish developing custom intake manifold, custom catch can, and custom dual 044 surge tank and nitrous setup
13. Assemble fuel lines and install new fueling setup (surge tank, pumps, lines, rails, FPR, ethanol content analyzer)
14. Self tune for E85!

I'm sure I'll be adding to this list as I remember more stuff.

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:51 AM
I want to be able to keep all of the future pics consolidated like I did at the beginning, but I didn't make enough of these saved posts there, so I'm saving a ton here.

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:53 AM
Pictures

jibberjive
03-05-2009, 04:58 AM
Pics

dpdaudi
03-07-2009, 08:25 AM
Meth wouldn't do much of anything for me either like I said, because of the E85 and ER SMIC's. I'm not saying anything about your car or whatever dyno you are going to run it on, but with my particular setup I'll be SUPER stoked if I break 500whp. Deb made that guess based on the particular heartbreaker dyno I'm going to be using (for example I'm GIAC stage 2 + (ASP DP's and APR SRT catback) and I dynoed 225whp and 271 wtq on that dyno with race gas on the race program (though that wasn't the car's full potential because I had a bad EGT and 02 sensor that was causing enrichment.)) I found out when I pulled the passenger 02 that the wires were actually severed ha. Either way, on a happier dyno and at sea level (I'm at 4300ft) I have no doubt that my setup could possibly put a 500+whp number.

Hey man. I took my stage 2+(GIAC w/piggies and borla catback) to the same dynometer at COBB Tuning(4300ft elevation). My car is healthy regardless of the 150k miles on the k03's. I ran pump 91 octane and consistently hit 214 awhp and 274 ft-lbs of torque. That dyno is mean. I started my engine pull last night. Since our builds are very similar it will be interesting when we go back to COBB afterward to see the difference.

belittle
03-07-2009, 10:58 AM
I'm glad those tie down straps are still going to be in good use :) Build looks great either way.

A4 Meets 27t
03-07-2009, 02:45 PM
I'm glad those tie down straps are still going to be in good use :) Build looks great either way.

Hey whats up Bryan, its Paul from Chicago, the one who bought every little trim piece off you basically, lol, thanks again for everything, just got the dashboard.

Jib where are you sending the motor to?

jibberjive
03-08-2009, 05:53 AM
Hey man. I took my stage 2+(GIAC w/piggies and borla catback) to the same dynometer at COBB Tuning(4300ft elevation). My car is healthy regardless of the 150k miles on the k03's. I ran pump 91 octane and consistently hit 214 awhp and 274 ft-lbs of torque. That dyno is mean. I started my engine pull last night. Since our builds are very similar it will be interesting when we go back to COBB afterward to see the difference.

Yeah, lots of people claim to have tough dynos, but your numbers as well hopefully helps people understand just how tough this particular dyno is. Yean man, can't wait until we're all done and hit that dyno for sure!


I'm glad those tie down straps are still going to be in good use :) Build looks great either way.

Lol, yeah, I figured I may as well reuse your sacrificial ratcheting tie downs[;)]



Jib where are you sending the motor to?

Already shipped it out to a guy in MN who's replacing his A6 motor.

A4 Meets 27t
03-08-2009, 03:56 PM
You have another engine built up already to go?

MAKK
03-08-2009, 04:29 PM
Looks good man, keep up the hard work!

Wizard-of-OD
03-08-2009, 04:35 PM
Looking good! Nice X-1!

jibberjive
03-08-2009, 06:04 PM
Thanks guys.


You have another engine built up already to go?
No, I've got one that I need to build up now.

AudiA4_20T
03-08-2009, 08:07 PM
keep going man

haus4
03-09-2009, 06:26 PM
nice progress, looking forward to the motor build.

ThirdStrike
03-17-2009, 09:28 AM
i heard ronnie/slowgolf is selling you some DV's?
you will like em. perfect style and performance
http://4ringsftw.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19661&g2_serialNumber=2

jibberjive
03-17-2009, 09:40 AM
i heard ronnie/slowgolf is selling you some DV's?
you will like em. perfect style and performance
http://4ringsftw.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19661&g2_serialNumber=2

Wow, word travels fast[;)] Do you work there? I think your pics were the ones that introduced me to them

obijohn22
03-17-2009, 09:53 AM
Wow, word travels fast[;)] Do you work there? I think your pics were the ones that introduced me to them

those are sweet! they look like little hand grenades![o_o]

ThirdStrike
03-17-2009, 10:06 AM
those are sweet! they look like little hand grenades![o_o]

they are supposed to do that :-P
http://4ringsftw.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=19601
pm slowgolf

Wow, word travels fast[;)] Do you work there? I think your pics were the ones that introduced me to them
no i dont work there.. but the EJ people are good friends of mine.

SlowGolf
03-17-2009, 10:17 AM
Wow, word travels fast[;)] Do you work there? I think your pics were the ones that introduced me to them

Rob (Thirdstrike) is a real good friend. His car was the first car we ran the small DVs on.

wdbdy2000s4
03-25-2009, 10:10 AM
I would consider meth, but it wouldn't likely do much when I'm running 115 octane E85 daily[:D]
Meth won't help advance timing with the E85 but ERs and a Meth kit will put your IAT deltas in the negatives.

Trigger Happy
03-25-2009, 10:19 AM
whats it cost to do something like this after everything is all said and done?

Bimmerchop
03-25-2009, 05:04 PM
subscribed [up]

jibberjive
03-25-2009, 06:43 PM
whats it cost to do something like this after everything is all said and done?

For the average consumer buying new and paying near retail, well north of $10k, and well north of $15k if you're including the built longblock and 2.8 heads.

Some new prices off the top of my head for some of the more expensive stuff
ER SMIC's- $1300-1400
RS6 turbos- $3600
Clutch and LWFW- $1400
Rods- $1000
supertech springs/retainers - $750
Inconel exhaust valves- $400-500
Inlets- $400
X-1 intake- $475
Bosch 044 drop-in fuel pump- $425

That's just about $10k right there and that is sorely incomplete, even missing some of the higher dollar items (downpipes, catback, 2.8 heads, motor/tranny mounts, wideband 02, fuel injectors, tune, all of the seals/bearings/bolts/pumps to replace while the engine is dismantled, short shifter, diverter valves and more). Also, that's not including any of the labor, which just for the regular KO4 swap is usually around $2000 (pull engine out, put on new turbos, and put back in). Other additional labor costs are for breaking down and disassembling the engine, hottank/clean/mic stuff and hone if you're replacing rings, balance the rotating assembly ($175-250), valve job and valves install ($600-700+), complete engine reassembly ($$), then bolting on the turbos/etc and reinstalling.

It all adds up for sure. I just don't want anyone to embark on this underestimating the cost (I'm way over budget.) On the other end of the spectrum, if you don't change a single seal or even touch the engine, you could do a base RS6 setup with an OTS tune for about the same as a new KO4 setup + ~$1000-1200 for the turbos + ~$100-200 for an inline fuel pump.

Most of the engine internals and a bunch of other components I got from 034 motorsport, or more specifically Issam on here (except for the rods, I got them from Pete at Integrated Engineering.) So if you need these parts, talk to those guys and they'll get you set up cause they were a pleasure to work with.

I've got some new goodies that I'm super stoked about, but haven't had time yet to take pics. I'll update soon[:d]

Drinnen
03-25-2009, 11:29 PM
i heard ronnie/slowgolf is selling you some DV's?
you will like em. perfect style and performance
http://4ringsftw.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=19661&g2_serialNumber=2


how much did those cost you? is his handle slowgolf on az? those dv's are sick.

jibberjive
03-26-2009, 01:05 AM
how much did those cost you? is his handle slowgolf on az? those dv's are sick.

Look directly below his reply[;)]
They look even better in person[up]

Evilevo
03-26-2009, 07:19 AM
For the average consumer buying new and paying near retail, well north of $10k, and well north of $15k if you're including the built longblock and 2.8 heads.

Some new prices off the top of my head for some of the more expensive stuff
ER SMIC's- $1300-1400
RS6 turbos- $3600
Clutch and LWFW- $1400
Rods- $1000
supertech springs/retainers - $750
Inconel exhaust valves- $400-500
Inlets- $400
X-1 intake- $475
Bosch 044 drop-in fuel pump- $425

That's just about $10k right there and that is sorely incomplete, even missing some of the higher dollar items (downpipes, catback, 2.8 heads, motor/tranny mounts, wideband 02, fuel injectors, tune, all of the seals/bearings/bolts/pumps to replace while the engine is dismantled, short shifter, diverter valves and more). Also, that's not including any of the labor, which just for the regular KO4 swap is usually around $2000 (pull engine out, put on new turbos, and put back in). Other additional labor costs are for breaking down and disassembling the engine, hottank/clean/mic stuff and hone if you're replacing rings, balance the rotating assembly ($175-250), valve job and valves install ($600-700+), complete engine reassembly ($$), then bolting on the turbos/etc and reinstalling.

It all adds up for sure. I just don't want anyone to embark on this underestimating the cost (I'm way over budget.) On the other end of the spectrum, if you don't change a single seal or even touch the engine, you could do a base RS6 setup with an OTS tune for about the same as a new KO4 setup + ~$1000-1200 for the turbos + ~$100-200 for an inline fuel pump.

Most of the engine internals and a bunch of other components I got from 034 motorsport, or more specifically Issam on here (except for the rods, I got them from Pete at Integrated Engineering.) So if you need these parts, talk to those guys and they'll get you set up cause they were a pleasure to work with.

I've got some new goodies that I'm super stoked about, but haven't had time yet to take pics. I'll update soon[:d]


Agreed. It is ALOT of money. I am also over budget but at this point, so far in that you cant do anything about it.

BTW, from what i have found/been told, the stock intake valves dont like to be revved that high. IDK about you, but i plan to rev my car out to 8-8200. I just went ahead and got new intake valves too. But than again, i had 160k on all my motor parts, so it was also for Peace of Mind knowing all the parts going in are new.


Good luck on your build man, cant want to see the finished product!

wdbdy2000s4
03-26-2009, 07:50 AM
I'd be worried about running stiffer springs on the stock intake valves...You're soo deep into this project you should just break down and spend the extra couple hundo so you can rev it out nice and high all day without any worries of a snapped valve. Although it's not really necessary to bump up your rev limiter that high with rs6s since they don't flow well at 8000. good luck with the build [up]

jibberjive
03-26-2009, 07:53 AM
You guys got me thinking...

wdbdy2000s4
03-26-2009, 07:56 AM
after over $10k invested what the extra $500? Plus, if you ever want to upgrade to GTs you can hit 8400redline all day.

jibberjive
03-26-2009, 07:58 AM
after over $10k invested what the extra $500? Plus, if you ever want to upgrade to GTs you can hit 8400redline all day.
That was my rationale with building the heads in the first place, I've just never heard of any issue with using the stock intake valves.

Did guru drop an intake or exhaust valve?

wdbdy2000s4
03-26-2009, 08:09 AM
don't remember...I know he built the heads himself though.

MarksB5
03-26-2009, 10:39 AM
I'm jealous of your setup to work on the car, look what I used on my previous engine pull[>_<]

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/Dom015.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/Dom014.jpg


ouchh!! i hate that jack b.s
when i did my clutch[:D]
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo339/marklucaj/1112082129.jpg

diabolical1
03-26-2009, 10:58 AM
seems to be a well-thought-out, comprehensive - albeit expensive - build, but i like it. can't wait to see when it fires. good luck with it.

quick question: what's the deal with the 2.8 heads? just curious why those over the stock 2.7s.

AMC
03-26-2009, 11:32 AM
seems to be a well-thought-out, comprehensive - albeit expensive - build, but i like it. can't wait to see when it fires. good luck with it.

quick question: what's the deal with the 2.8 heads? just curious why those over the stock 2.7s.

bigger, better air flow

diabolical1
03-26-2009, 11:44 AM
i take it either:
(A) it's not common practice in the community to port 2.7 heads OR
(B) it's just cheaper to get 2.8 heads (which would be similar to porting 2.7s).

am i close? :)

wdbdy2000s4
03-26-2009, 11:46 AM
2.8 heads flow better. There isn't that much room to work the 2.7 heads either

A4 Meets 27t
03-26-2009, 11:52 AM
i take it either:
(A) it's not common practice in the community to port 2.7 heads OR
(B) it's just cheaper to get 2.8 heads (which would be similar to porting 2.7s).

am i close? :)

Yea you are, people then just port match the 2.8 heads. I'm gonna be doing that along with 2.8 cams since I had a 2.8 NA motor prior to my swap which are more aggressive than RS4 cams. You won't see a huge difference with cams unless you go with GTs. Also I the you have to weld shut a few coolant holes on the 2.8 heads as there are more than on the 2.7, I believe. Won't know for sure until I actually get around to that.

jibberjive
03-26-2009, 11:58 AM
i take it either:
(A) it's not common practice in the community to port 2.7 heads OR
(B) it's just cheaper to get 2.8 heads (which would be similar to porting 2.7s).

am i close? :)

2.8 heads have a way bigger intake ports to start with and come with more aggressive cams (almost the same as the RS4 cams). Also, the 2.7 head castings have bigger coolant ports in them, so you can't work them as much as you could 2.8 heads, though people are for sure also running 2.7 heads ported.

diabolical1
03-26-2009, 12:31 PM
thanks for the replies, guys. i have a better idea of what's going on now. i thought i had read somewhere that the 2.7s we got here shared the same heads with the 2.8s - which is clearly not the case. that's pretty much why i was somewhat baffled.

sorry to venture a bit off the focus of your build with this stuff. :) i'm good now though.

silky
03-26-2009, 09:27 PM
awesome! great work and updates

jibberjive
03-26-2009, 10:03 PM
BTW, from what i have found/been told, the stock intake valves dont like to be revved that high.
Just curious, who told you that? Cause I've never heard anything about the stock intake valves, and I've talked to quite a few people.

Also, my intake valves and heads have less than 60k on them[:)]

GURUMAN
03-27-2009, 03:09 AM
Just curious, who told you that? Cause I've never heard anything about the stock intake valves, and I've talked to quite a few people.

Also, my intake valves and heads have less than 60k on them[:)]

Trust me, CHANGE THE VALVES to at least stainless.


If you want to keep the stock ones, dont put springs. This is riciepe for diaster.

And you change your lifters too.

You neen to put at least 2k in your heads if not keep the stockers, or take your 2.8 heads an swap everything from your S4's. I really think it's useless tho.

Too hard to say what went wrong in my setup, the 5 valves are broken on cyl #1

Evilevo
03-27-2009, 03:16 PM
Just curious, who told you that? Cause I've never heard anything about the stock intake valves, and I've talked to quite a few people.

Also, my intake valves and heads have less than 60k on them[:)]


haha, from him ^^^^^^^^

But than again, i had 160k miles, so i wasnt putting stock back in anyway. My turbos came in and lets just say that no one is running them [:D]

jibberjive
04-06-2009, 07:32 PM
So I got these in the other day and I must say I'm impressed with the quality of the machining, packaging, and overall presentation. These look incredible in person, and I can't wait to get them on the car. Looking into one of the holes I see that they came pre-lubed, so it seems eurojet cares about the functionality as well, not just the good looks[;)] BTW these are the eurojet "Kugel" DV's
http://www.eurojetracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DIVKGL1.0&Redirected=Y

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4060010.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4060022.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4060018.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4060024.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4060026.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4060034.jpg

TweetsS4Estate
04-06-2009, 08:11 PM
I'm going to say it before anyone else does. Those look like grenades.. bad ass man post pictures when they are installed. When is the car going to be finished?

Cobrakiller08
04-06-2009, 08:13 PM
Sweet Dv's Jibberjive!

jibberjive
04-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I'm going to say it before anyone else does. Those look like grenades.. bad ass man post pictures when they are installed. When is the car going to be finished?
Already been said a little ways up[;)] And they're made to look like grenades. I'll be hitting the build up more seriously after about April 23rd, I just hope I can get most of the rest of the parts by then.


Sweet Dv's Jibberjive!

Thanks Chris. You're setup running yet? If not, what's the holdup?

antoanS4
04-06-2009, 11:00 PM
do you finish the project

jibberjive
04-06-2009, 11:03 PM
do you finish the project

Is that a question? Past or present tense?[:D]

I'm going to, but haven't yet.

Cobrakiller08
04-07-2009, 08:24 AM
I have been swamped with work and this bad weather! I am almost ready to put the motor back in the car, every thing else is done. somethime next week it will be up and running.!! I may have one an altenator you can have, i have two of them sitting around one my be a a bocsh I need to check it out. I will let you know. Btw what did you do about your heads? did you call my friend?

SlowGolf
04-07-2009, 10:14 AM
Lookin good. Glad you like em! Im happy to see another S4 running these!

ThirdStrike
04-07-2009, 11:21 AM
Lookin good. Glad you like em! Im happy to see another S4 running these!

where are my cool boxes?! [:|]
[:p]

and you guys need to reproduce the smic's that are on my car for the b5s4 ppls!

SlowGolf
04-07-2009, 11:33 AM
where are my cool boxes?! [:|]
[:p]

and you guys need to reproduce the smic's that are on my car for the b5s4 ppls!

You got the first 2 DVs. Hell you got em before I got em lol. Ill get you boxes if you want. We didnt have em made till after we got the DVs

antoanS4
04-07-2009, 04:58 PM
it was a question, cause i have RS6s too and im gonna get SSP E85 tune as well

antoanS4
04-07-2009, 06:12 PM
just want to know what #s you put on the dyno, and fats times

wdbdy2000s4
04-08-2009, 06:03 AM
do you finish the project
no. It's not done. he doesn't have all the parts yet.


just want to know what #s you put on the dyno, and fats times
Your numbers will undoubtedly be higher then jibber's on the dyno since he is like 8 million feet in the air and the cobb dyno doesn't really like people. Your FATS may be a little quicker too since the air is a lot denser at sea level. Of course neither of those comments apply if you aren't doing headwork and the other extensive mods you see in this thread.

antoanS4
04-08-2009, 01:35 PM
i did rosten rods, 82.5mm oversise bored pistons and 3.0 crank, new main bearings and rods bearings,im still using the 2.7 heads with rs4 cams, more or less about the same

jibberjive
04-21-2009, 02:32 AM
i did rosten rods, 82.5mm oversise bored pistons and 3.0 crank, new main bearings and rods bearings,im still using the 2.7 heads with rs4 cams, more or less about the same
To be honest, that's quite a bit different than mine. I've got stock 2.7 bore vs. your 3.0 and I'm going 2.8 heads and cams vs. your 2.7 w/RS4 cams. Plus different dynos, elevations, conditions, etc., you won't really be able to compare my dynos or FATS times to yours.

Is your car already done and tuned?


I have been swamped with work and this bad weather! I am almost ready to put the motor back in the car, every thing else is done. somethime next week it will be up and running.!! I may have one an altenator you can have, i have two of them sitting around one my be a a bocsh I need to check it out. I will let you know. Btw what did you do about your heads? did you call my friend?

So...is it in?! I was going to call your buddy about the heads, but I found some other ones locally that were complete with the cams. I was going to likely go to Jarl to get them done, but I've since bought some 2.8 heads with 034 stuff, so I'm selling the stock 2.8 heads.

antoanS4
04-21-2009, 08:22 AM
Hi Jibberjive, within this week or next i would be installing the SSP E85 tuning, ill let you know how it goes, how about your project, how much longer before you finish it

jibberjive
04-21-2009, 05:51 PM
Hi Jibberjive, within this week or next i would be installing the SSP E85 tuning, ill let you know how it goes, how about your project, how much longer before you finish it
After this weekend I plan on hitting it up hard to get it completed, but I won't have all of my hardware by then so I'm still a couple of weeks out. Do you already have your injectors/MAF/fuel pump, etc?

antoanS4
04-21-2009, 06:37 PM
no im waiting on greg to order all the stuff,

jibberjive
04-27-2009, 04:19 AM
Not a whole lot of progress, but I got a couple things to spruce up the shop a little[:D]
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4260108.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4260114.jpg

Got a clock for the shop

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4260111.jpg
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P4260123.jpg

Other than that, I pulled all the trim in the car, which is going to replaced with carbon fiber. I guess I should say I almost pulled all of the trim cause I quit before I got the long piece on the dashboard all the way off.

Boris
04-27-2009, 05:06 AM
looks really good, I wish so bad I had a garage like that. I hate working in apartment complex parking garages..

How about painting some huge rings on that wall thats not painted yet?[:D][:D]

jibberjive
04-27-2009, 06:21 AM
looks really good, I wish so bad I had a garage like that. I hate working in apartment complex parking garages..

How about painting some huge rings on that wall thats not painted yet?[:D][:D]

Yeah, that garage is 45 mins away and I've only had it for a couple of months. For the past 3 years I've lived in an apt as well, so I've done more than my fair share of work in the parking lot ha. Be thankful you have a covered garage at your place![>_<]

Technically I could paint whatever I want on that wall ha. Maybe I'll make a post to get some ideas thrown around.

wdbdy2000s4
04-27-2009, 07:43 AM
It wouldn't be right to paint anything but a b5 s4/rs4...you should know that.

jibberjive
04-27-2009, 08:08 AM
It wouldn't be right to paint anything but a b5 s4/rs4...you should know that.

Well, the B5 isn't my only Audi. And on that token, the Audi's aren't my only cars. Maybe I should do something in ode to my Ford 1990 Rapevan Deluxe[:D]
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/MikesStuff016.jpg

ajb_unc
04-27-2009, 08:46 AM
haha......wtf Free Candy?? That made me laugh as I can only think what people must say when they see that going down the road haha...too funny

wdbdy2000s4
05-04-2009, 05:52 PM
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/MikesStuff016.jpg

spraypaint the windows black in the back and wrap duct tape around the mirror so it looks like it's falling off. maybe a little blood spatter on the front too. What's the status on your build?... I saw there might be some changes over on AW but i don't really post over thurr.

AMC
05-12-2009, 05:46 AM
come on man i wanna see pcs of the progress

jibberjive
05-12-2009, 06:25 AM
Not much progress cause I'm waiting on more hardware. Maybe some updated pics tonight;)

sean1.8t
05-12-2009, 01:52 PM
Meth won't help advance timing with the E85 but ERs and a Meth kit will put your IAT deltas in the negatives.

if running E85, there's really no reason to run actual meth. you can run the meth kit. but all you would have to do is run strait water for the cooling properties as you already have the high octane rating via E85

Silence
05-14-2009, 11:45 AM
Jibberjive, quick question. You're at elevation, right? What elevation, and what vacuum reading do you normally see at idle?

sean1.8t
05-14-2009, 01:32 PM
he's at 4300ft. but im not sure the inhg readings he gets

jibberjive
05-14-2009, 05:29 PM
Yup 4300 ft and I never paid too specific of attention to the vac readings, I just know that they weren't out of normal (I haven't driven my car for over 6 months). between 18-20 I believe.

dpdaudi
05-14-2009, 05:50 PM
Yup 4300 ft and I never paid too specific of attention to the vac readings, I just know that they weren't out of normal (I haven't driven my car for over 6 months). between 18-20 I believe.

Sounds about right. Mine has about the same reading at the same elevation.

Slow4
05-14-2009, 06:18 PM
Well, I just crawled out from under my rock and stumbled onto this thread and HOLY SH*T, I'm jealous![>_<] Its been 30 minutes, and I'm finally done with the entire thread.

Looks like you took my idea (as well as a whole bunch of others) minus the 2.8 and ran buck wild with it; perhaps I should just stick with my original RS4K04 thought-process.

Do continue with the updates.

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jibberjive
05-15-2009, 09:54 AM
Updates are coming when I get a sec, and they are a'plenty:)

B5stgIII
05-17-2009, 03:50 PM
glad to hear that. Look forward to seeing the updates

GURUMAN
05-28-2009, 04:42 AM
Mike, congrats for your turbo choice....

wdbdy2000s4
05-28-2009, 05:48 AM
Moaaaaaaarrrrr!!!!

wdbdy2000s4
06-05-2009, 10:27 AM
BUMP for updates!!

GramCracker
06-05-2009, 10:40 AM
BUMP for updates!!

+1

i wanna see some cool shit

bryzf1
06-05-2009, 11:35 AM
Mike, congrats for your turbo choice....

What did you decide to replace the RS6's with?

bandit
06-06-2009, 08:23 AM
slacking on updates are we jibber?

jibberjive
06-06-2009, 11:57 AM
Sorry guys! They're coming soon, I promise. I just haven't had time to upload pics and stuff.

andream88
06-06-2009, 12:10 PM
gt2859R? :P

jibberjive
06-06-2009, 12:17 PM
Close, but no cigar.

S-Power
06-06-2009, 01:33 PM
GT2560's >?

wdbdy2000s4
06-09-2009, 06:21 AM
I would just like to say "I TOLD YOU SO!"

see post #2 [:)] (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=277341)

jibberjive
06-11-2009, 05:37 AM
Well wdbdy, you told me so[:d] (but I didn't go with the eliminators.) There's big changes with my build. I decided to go the GT route and am having Markku at Agtronic Motorsports in Canada build me one of his GT kits (same fabricator as Guruman.) 3" V-banded DP's, exhaust manis, and TiAL MV-S 38mm V-band wastegates. I should have more pics of the progress in a day or two and they should be done in the next week or so.

http://www.agtronicmotorsport.com/

I got the turbos, wastegates and oil/coolant lines from Shelby at SMS Performance. Good guy who went out of his way to help me out in a bind. He'll get you as good of prices as anyone and if you're local I wouldn't hesitate to take your car there for service either. For others who are homebrewing a GT kit, I'm sure he still has the list of all of the stuff I got for the lines and could get you setup with all of that business as well (it's the same line kit that ATP uses for the stock placement GT eliminators.)

http://www.sms-performance.com/

I've got completed 2.8 heads with
-034 1mm oversize stainless intake valves
-034 Inconel exhaust valves
-034 Springs and titanium retainers

So now I've got a second set of stock 2.8 ATQ heads in great shape with about 55k mi that I'm selling in the classifieds. Click the link in my sig, and here's a couple pics
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Selling/HEADS/P6040035.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Selling/HEADS/P6040043.jpg

I've also got a great condition RS4 airbox for sale as well
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/Selling/PC210050.jpg

Anywho, here's some pics of the new turbos (unmodified) and wastegates. Can you guess what turbos these are?
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280211.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280229.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280231.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280217.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280218.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280222.jpg

TiAL MV-S'
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280233.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280236.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280238.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280242.jpg

And the lines
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280247.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5280250.jpg

jibberjive
06-11-2009, 05:38 AM
So I've got completed heads. They were hottanked, decked, 3-angle valve job, valve seats modified for 1mm oversize intake valves, and new guides were installed.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180052.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180027.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180019.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180036.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180025.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180020.jpg

A closeup of the combi valve threaded shut
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180035.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180039.jpg

A little more sprucing up of the shop with a new poster[:)]
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5180013.jpg

So...onto to the work. Here's how the interior of my car currently sits (I pulled the trim to replace with CF.)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5110148.jpg

I had to move the S4 off the lift so I could work on some other cars, but the driveline was dangling to the ground because it's disconnected. We had to thread 2 huge zipties that we put end to end up through the shifter boot/box and put around the shifter with the lower end around the driveline to hold it up so we could push the car around.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5110150.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5110147.jpg

Getting the motor bolted onto the stand was the most time consuming/difficult part of the motor breakdown (the motor breakdown itself is really not difficult at all.)
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150170.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/IMG_4016.jpg

On stand, ready to get to business. Notice how the cam gears aren't lined up with each other.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150179.jpg

Timing belt and stuff off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150181.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150182.jpg

Heads off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150193.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150194.jpg

Turns out one bank has bent valves from a slipped timing belt. Good thing I'm using those brand new complete 2.8 heads and replacing the bad bank of pistons with good OEM's. Can you guess which bank?
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150196.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150197.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150198.jpg

Bank 1
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150183.jpg

Bank 2
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5150189.jpg

Waterpump and all peripheral accessories gone
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190062.jpg

Lower oil pan off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190067.jpg

Oil pump assembly and upper oil pan
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190069.jpg

jibberjive
06-11-2009, 05:39 AM
Upper oil pan off
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190081.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190075.jpg

Oil pump out and how she currently sits while I find 3 OEM pistons.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190084.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190089.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm235/jibberjive/RS6%20Build/P5190090.jpg

jibberjive
06-11-2009, 05:41 AM
I'm looking for 3 good OEM 2.7 pistons if you know of anyone who has some lying around. My clutch is on it's way and as soon as I get the piston situation sorted out it's off to the machine shop for hottank, balance, hone (or bore if I go bigger than 2.7), and decking of the block. By then I should have the modified turbos, manis, dp's, fueling etc and all I'll have to do is assembly! After that I've got exhaust and the tune, then it'll be driving like a madman daily on E85! From there I'll complete the stereo and the final touches.

Sorry for the late updates, I've been lacking some time because I'm starting a new job.

wdbdy2000s4
06-11-2009, 06:03 AM
I called Agtronic monday. They were supposed to call with the quote yesterday but I guess they don't want my business, haha. Can't wait to get home and see your updates(work blocks pisctures for some reason). My buddy has my old block which ate some valves so I'll see if he wants to get rid of pistons but he'll probly be a bitch about it. What turbo are you going with?

jibberjive
06-11-2009, 06:12 AM
I called Agtronic monday. They were supposed to call with the quote yesterday but I guess they don't want my business, haha. Can't wait to get home and see your updates(work blocks pisctures for some reason). My buddy has my old block which ate some valves so I'll see if he wants to get rid of pistons but he'll probly be a bitch about it. What turbo are you going with?
I think Markku is just pretty busy. Shoot him or Tamara an email, or just give them another call. As for which turbo, you'll have to look at the pics and guess[:p]

If you could get 3 good pistons from him that'd be killer! LMK

wdbdy2000s4
06-11-2009, 06:14 AM
I figured they were busy, Tamara said she'd call back so I'm not worried about it. I won't need them for a month or so anyway. Can you PM me a ballpark price of the V-band kit. I can't wait for the quote, haha. I'm gonna guess 7000?

bryzf1
06-11-2009, 08:25 AM
As for which turbo, you'll have to look at the pics and guess[:p]

Here's my guess... GT2860R - 707160-7

complacentsee
06-11-2009, 08:26 AM
As for which turbo, you'll have to look at the pics and guess[:p]


GT 2860-7

what did I win? Please tell me your RS6 setup....

dougyfresh
06-11-2009, 08:31 AM
Talk to Clint (audia4_20T). He may have a 3.0L crank.

jibberjive
06-11-2009, 08:41 AM
You guys are right, it's the 2860-7's, which should be rather obvious because I've been yelling forever that someone should try these turbos[cool] If I'm right the only difference between the 2860-7's and the GT2859's is that the 2859's have a .6mm smaller compressor wheel.

Thanks for the head's up on the 3.0 crank, I'll see what he wants for it.

wdbdy2000s4
06-11-2009, 09:00 AM
If I'm right the only difference between the 2860-7's and the GT2859's is that the 2859's have a .6mm smaller compressor wheel.

Depends which 2859, b/c there are two. But yeah, you're right. This was a great choice, smaller compressor housing then the 2554s but the turbine and compressor wheels are WAY bigger. This thing will spool nice and early on a 2.7 or 3.0.

GramCracker
06-11-2009, 09:07 AM
I'm loving the update. Keep'em coming!

http://420.thrashbarg.net/this_thread_delivers_ups_chick_amazon.jpg