PCV is now a recall apparently

[Sanjman]

Just FYI... Some time in September the Crankcase Ventilation Valve became a recall. My service guy found it in their system and was advised to replace it. Maybe the service guy doesn't know much... and did it anyways... just wanted to inform you all anyways.

[EMAXX]

For what model years?

[4RingRook]

*cough* B7 forum *cough*

I assume all B7s, 2005.5 - 08.

[EMAXX]

*cough* B7 forum *cough*

I assume all B7s, 2005.5 - 08.


I'm trying to see if maybe it didn't include my car, cause some people have said that in 08, there were some updates. Many cars get small updates through the model years, even though they don't change big things.

[4RingRook]

Ah, in that case... your question makes perfect sense.

Your best bet is to call the dealer with your VIN and ask if your car is included in the recall then. [up]

[EMAXX]

Ah, in that case... your question makes perfect sense.

Your best bet is to call the dealer with your VIN and ask if your car is included in the recall then. [up]


Yeah. Just trying to make sure.[:)]

My car is getting it's 5000 mile service next week. I'll just ask my dealer about it then.

[navi604]

Can anyone verify this??

[Kid Red]

If you are affected, do they send out a notice?

[vtracer20]

i was just in on friday for an oil change had them check tsb's and none for the b7 a4.


EDIT: i check my invoice and mine was also recalled

[Sanjman]

I have a 2007 B7 A4... and my invoice says:

PERFORM UPDATE CR
REPLACED CRANKCASE VENTILATION VALVE PER UPDATE CR
17261917--.40

PARTS QTY FP-NUMBER DESCRIPTION UNIT PRICE
1 06F-103-483-E GASKET WARRANTY
1 06F-103-221-H VENTHOSE WARRANTY
1 06F-129-101-E VALVE WARRANTY

Edit: so apparently they call the pressure regulator valve the PCV... so I don't know anymore what this is. I had the pressure regulator valve replaced on my previous service so now I'm confused to what they actually did. I just went in for my 35K service and then they notified me. Maybe it's not a recall but a required TSB that gets performed on some cars... who knows... either way... not a huge deal.

[tre]

They are talking about the PCV. PCV and DV are two unrelated parts.

[autoverruckt]

I found some oil around the cap today.[:(]

I have a pretty good relationship with my SA. I'll hit them up at my 15k service (about a month from now).

['mk4-turbo]

was at the dealer this week and they didnt say anything...if anyhthing shouldnt i get a letter?

[Brent27]

just checked out on the Gov recall website nothng is listed as of now...

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/recallsearch.cfm

[jamesj2k]

went to my dealer late 2008 and the replaced the same things as Sanjman under recall.
It also said they replaced valve cover gasket due to oil leak around engine.

[Grada89]

This might help some of you.

On Thursday i randomly noticed my idle was kinda high. It would sit at 1300 after the car was fully warmed up. So I'm on my way to school when this happens and I'm like oh well I'll go to class and then call up a dealer on the way back and schedule an appointment. Way back from school CEL comes on and I'm thinking great this should be fun. So i take the car in drop it off Thursday night and hope for the best.

Anyways get a call on Friday and it turned out to be the the Crankcase vent regulating valve. Now I'm not sure if that's just another word for PCV but it sounds like it. I asked the service adviser and he said it was something else but i don't think he even knew.

Well on the service papers it says performed tech bulletin 2015505/4 and found fault P2187. So I'm sure some B7 A4's are due for this bulletin. BTW i have a MY 06.

[AudiTFSI3o3]

Crank Case Ventilation Valve is the same as the Crank Case Breather Valve. There's been a TSB on this for quite sometime. I had mine replaced back at the beginning of the year and the tech told me the same thing.

[Grada89]

Crank Case Ventilation Valve is the same as the Crank Case Breather Valve. There's been a TSB on this for quite sometime. I had mine replaced back at the beginning of the year and the tech told me the same thing.

That's weird because I was in for the 25k mile service not to long ago and they didn't even mention it. Did you have MIL on when they replaced it?

[AudiTFSI3o3]

the thing is at the time i kept getting loud screeching sounds at idle + oil lead around the cap. at first i thought it was 2 separate problems 1) power steering and 2) oil leak. brought it into the dealership - when i pulled up to the service garage the car screeched again. tech walks by and points at the breather valve. went inside and he told me that since Audi wasn't having too much problems w/ the valve they didn't put it under recall but TSB.

if you don't ask them about it i don't think they'll tell you - great service eh?

[wootwoot]

Without any verification I find this hard to believe.

[AudiWxGuy]

It's a TSB...not a recall...

[bengtc]

How much was the cost for the replacement?

[ataylor]

^ also wondering how much the service (TSB) costs at the dealer, out-of-warranty

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[illegitimus]

I have a 2007 B7 A4... and my invoice says:

PERFORM UPDATE CR
REPLACED CRANKCASE VENTILATION VALVE PER UPDATE CR
17261917--.40

PARTS QTY FP-NUMBER DESCRIPTION UNIT PRICE
1 06F-103-483-E GASKET WARRANTY
1 06F-103-221-H VENTHOSE WARRANTY
1 06F-129-101-E VALVE WARRANTY

Edit: so apparently they call the pressure regulator valve the PCV... so I don't know anymore what this is. I had the pressure regulator valve replaced on my previous service so now I'm confused to what they actually did. I just went in for my 35K service and then they notified me. Maybe it's not a recall but a required TSB that gets performed on some cars... who knows... either way... not a huge deal.

I bought the valve back in March of this year to replace the original one and the part number I have is 06F-129-101-K. I think, this is the latest revision for PCV.

[philaboy]

Need more info-


For what model years?

[scoobycarolan]

Let's get the language straight here. The crankcase breather comes up from the bottom of the engine. The pcv runs from the intake manifold. Which is in the TSB, better yet can someone post the bulletin.

[illegitimus]

Let's get the language straight here. The crankcase breather comes up from the bottom of the engine. The pcv runs from the intake manifold. Which is in the TSB, better yet can someone post the bulletin.

Based on the part number supplied by the OP, he is talking about the PCV. TSB text would be helpful though, I agree.

[ataylor]

Here is what the Service Manager at my local dealership said. Can you tell he doesn't like me? (Not surprising, after our 3 week bout over my Cam, Follower, HPFP.. that he eventually was forced to replace under warranty [:p])

http://www.atdesigner.com/audi/audizine/hedoesntlikeme.gif

[dougyfresh]

You realize this thread is a year old Adam?

September was 2008....

[ataylor]

You realize this thread is a year old Adam?

September was 2008....

HAHA shit, no I didn't notice that. This thread showed up in the B7 section near the top today and I guess I wasn't paying attention.

Oh well, thanks :D

[B7 Projectile]

wow, Audi of Alexandria just charged me to replace this part.. your telling me that there was a recall out... Looks like I've got a bone to pick with them..

[Glassnpowder98]

From what it sounds like this is a TSB and not a recall. If you are out of warranty they do not cover TSBs for free... Pretty crappy that they know the part is defective but screw you anyways... Same thing with the cam followers

[RandyQUATTRO]

Had my PCV replaced by the TSB (after a CEL and oil around the cap). Bummer that AoA does not make this a recall. Save the receipt from you repair should a recall ever be given (i.e. coilpacks). You might be able to get some $$ back. Good luck.

[B7 Projectile]

Had my PCV replaced by the TSB (after a CEL and oil around the cap). Bummer that AoA does not make this a recall. Save the receipt from you repair should a recall ever be given (i.e. coilpacks). You might be able to get some $$ back. Good luck.

Good heads up!

[Cottonmouth]

My dealership just told me mine is needing replacement. They want nearly $300 to do it. Are these indeed covered by the dealerships or will I have to bite the bullet?

I have read this entire thread and not seen a definitive answer.

It would be nice to be able to go to the dealership and quote an actual TSB number and get it done for free.

[Tanner]

New PCV is $132CDN. Part took maybe 15 minutes to swap out. So I know labour is rounded up and that's $105 at the dealer, so even that, with taxes, is around $275CDN, so that's probably close to what the dealer wants.

I picked up the part from Owasco and had the guys at Independent Tuning in Scarborough to swap out the PCV for me. After watching them, it's pretty simple to do.

[Sanjman]

Geez... way to bring up an old thread and everyone's all about it!!! He told me specifically it is a recall. I have a 2007 B7 and don't feel like providing any more info on an old thread. LOL. Enjoy your night.

[baldy]

Fyi, I went in today for the car running rough and oil puking out everywhere (valve cover gastket area, cap, screws on valve cover) with the knowledge from here the PCV issue at hand. Long story short, since I had a "PCV fix check valve", they denied warranty on the defective PCV and when they called me, they sang to the tune of $410 for the repair... WTF? Anyways, after addressing my dissatisfaction the most they would do for me is knock the bill down to 240$... Even that was like pulling teeth... Anyone know how i would fare if I should take it up with Audi Canada?

[englishbay]

Hey baldy, let us know which dealership this is so that the group can learn from your experiences. I was at Capilano the other day on another issue and mentioned that I wasn't sure which PVC version I had. The tech looked at it and said that I had the older version and it would fail anyway and have to be replaced so he made up a story that I had a CEL so that he could replace it. It was all done under warranty. I have the Eurojet PVC Fix and he saw that - I just explained that it is a one way valve that prevents the oil from going back into the engine/crankcase(?)

[Cottonmouth]

I had an issue about 6 months ago. The PCV valve was sticking sometimes. It kept throwing the check engine light. When they told me it was about the TSB they said I still had to pay for it.

This was at Oakville Audi.

[scoobycarolan]

My dealer swaped the pcv. I burned 2 quarts of oil in 2000 miles. They went head and replaced the valve cover gasket and the hose again. Still burning oil.

[Korrect414]

Back from the dead, but I just threw a cel and it was a bad pcv. I had no idea there was a tsb out. I just paid my cpo deductible.

[Banshee35]

Having mine done Tuesday at a local independant shop. Mine's an 05.5 with 45K miles so I'm footing the bill on it...thanks AOA.

[Korrect414]

I'm gonna be giving my dealer a call and figure out a solution here. I had previously asked for them to check it out and that $85 could of been spent else where.

[Mr. Merk]

guys guys guys......you're going to ruin any chance of getting help from your service dept by going at it like this

a TSB is merely a document with instructions for the technician telling them how to fix a problem, has nothing to do with a freebie fix (special policy) or a mandatory repair (recall or campaign)

scenario: You have a CEL, you go to dealer, tech pulls code P1234, tech selects your vehicle in the Service Information (SI) program, he types P1234 and hits search, probably 3 or 4 TSBs show up, each with different scenarios, maybe with specific VIN ranges, he selects the TSB that best fits your car/complaint, and then procedes to follow repair instructions found in TSB

now take a box of donuts in next time and aplogize for being such a PITA, might come in handy later when you need help

[Banshee35]

I never even called the dealer as I got a CEL and pulled the P0171 code. Even though my car was CPO to the previous buyer and would still be covered but AOA doesn't transfer CPO warranties so it went to the local independant.

TSBs are a little more than a set of instructions. I would like to think that a mechanic would know how to replace a PCV without instructions. As quoted from Edmunds:

"These bulletins differ from recalls in that they are not considered safety or emissions issues and they usually apply only when your vehicle is in its warranty period (whereas a recall is "open" until the work has been performed). TSBs frequently (but not always) address a recurring problem and include illustrated instructions for repair, a list of the parts needed, the warranty status and the labor charge."

No apology needed, was never a PITA as I never spoke with them and if I buy donuts my fat ass is eating them.

[Mr. Merk]

LOL, just saying i'm a service advisor (not audi) and this is a common misconception

there is probably a TSB for every problem you'll ever have with your car and then 100's more, of course its reoccuring, if it breaks on your car, it'll break on at least several hundred others, if not thousands, thats how any product is

[Mr. Merk]

that, and if you didnt call them and gripe, then my statement about apologizing didnt apply to you

[STONER]

I'm gonna be giving my dealer a call and figure out a solution here. I had previously asked for them to check it out and that $85 could of been spent else where.

As far as I know TSB's only cover the manufacture warranty. Yes their was a recall and maybe it didnt apply to your car or was previously peformed. So now that you had a bad pcv and there is a TSB you still have to pay your CPO. Again TSB fixes still can apply to cars out of warranty, but are not free even with cpo.

Hope this helps clear some things up.

[Mr. Merk]

I think you said it better than I did

[Korrect414]

As far as I know TSB's only cover the manufacture warranty. Yes their was a recall and maybe it didnt apply to your car or was previously peformed. So now that you had a bad pcv and there is a TSB you still have to pay your CPO. Again TSB fixes still can apply to cars out of warranty, but are not free even with cpo.

Hope this helps clear some things up.

Makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

My service guy is solid. I figured he would take care of me. No big deal.

I would never call and rage at my SA. He has saved me a ton of cash over the years. Just curious how the whole TSB thing worked regarding CPO's.

[BeerNBrats]

Korrect, where do you take your Avant? I am in the IE but don't trust Walter's for nothing. I've bought a couple VWs from CommonWealth but Penske just bought them and I have a feeling there is a house cleaning coming over there.

[makav3li]

Correct, where do you take your Avant? I am in the IE but don't trust Walter's for nothing. I've bought a couple VWs from CommonWealth but Penske just bought them and I have a feeling there is a house cleaning coming over there.

There, corrected.