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Sobo
06-28-2008, 10:33 AM
I just recently acquired a stock 2001 1.8tqm and its slow as balls. Its like the turbo never comes out to play(Actually never feel it engage ha)

Hopefully a chip gets me back into my seat like my last one did.


Anyone else got this problem?

Siena
06-28-2008, 10:35 AM
They're heavy cars.

20vpower
06-28-2008, 10:38 AM
i think we all had this problem at one point, your objective is to solve that problem haha

slopoke
06-28-2008, 10:38 AM
Wow well lets see,

1) its not a sports car by any means
2) 3200lbs/170hp
3) Geared for fuel ecomony
4) smallest turbo i have ever seen

Squarrl
06-28-2008, 10:43 AM
slow compared to what?

Sobo
06-28-2008, 10:48 AM
Walking haha

honestly, my 1995 audi 90 Q was faster!

Squarrl
06-28-2008, 11:02 AM
I find that strange since its a heavier car with the same HP.

burner799
06-28-2008, 11:08 AM
the real question is, if you wanted a fast car, why did you buy an audi?

BONFIRE074
06-28-2008, 11:10 AM
its not that audis cant be fast, its just how much $$ you want to put into it.

djwimbo
06-28-2008, 11:10 AM
Wow well lets see,

1) its not a sports car by any means
2) 3200lbs/170hp
3) Geared for fuel ecomony
4) smallest turbo i have ever seen

How about 3400lbs and 150hp? His might have 170 stock, I don't
I don't know about the fuel economy. I'm doing 3K rpm at 65mph. I don't like that.

stock 16.9 in a 1/4
modded I ran 14.93. Mods in sig.

Bic-Ball
06-28-2008, 11:19 AM
http://zeroproof.com/bicball/turbo2.jpg
mini turbos

MikeWasHere05
06-28-2008, 11:35 AM
http://zeroproof.com/bicball/turbo2.jpg
mini turbos

Mini turbo*

S4 has mini turbos, and it isn't that slow.

Firefighter637
06-28-2008, 11:50 AM
Yea, it does kinda suck that we have to upgrade so much to make it faster. Sometimes not fast enough. If you want fast you have to drop some $ from the start like RS4!

AudiRacerS4
06-28-2008, 11:56 AM
Mini turbo*

S4 has mini turbos, and it isn't that slow.

the S4 is a 2.7L V6 with 2 turbos and cannot be compared to a 1.8T since bone stock the S4 has 100chp more

AudiRacerS4
06-28-2008, 11:57 AM
How about 3400lbs and 150hp? His might have 170 stock, I don't
I don't know about the fuel economy. I'm doing 3K rpm at 65mph. I don't like that.

stock 16.9 in a 1/4
modded I ran 14.93. Mods in sig.

3k at 65mph?!! damn at 3k I'm doing 80mph [confused]

Just Quaff
06-28-2008, 12:01 PM
the S4 is a 2.7L V6 with 2 turbos and cannot be compared to a 1.8T since bone stock the S4 has 100chp more

And essentially the s4 can be concidered to have 2 of the 1.8's in the damn engine bay. Each one of those turbos is only attacking 3 cylinders. So you can't compare it at all.

And yeah, it comes down to it being a heavy car with a midget turbo.

20vpower
06-28-2008, 12:28 PM
http://zeroproof.com/bicball/turbo2.jpg
mini turbos

more like dirty turbo haha

1.8G
06-28-2008, 12:51 PM
I just recently acquired a stock 2001 1.8tqm and its slow as balls. Its like the turbo never comes out to play(Actually never feel it engage ha)

Hopefully a chip gets me back into my seat like my last one did.


Anyone else got this problem?

Did you not test drive it before you bought it? Sounds like a mustang may suit you better...

ShawFM
06-28-2008, 01:03 PM
Wow well lets see,

1) its not a sports car by any means
2) 3200lbs/170hp
3) Geared for fuel ecomony
4) smallest turbo i have ever seen

re #4 my '82 Honda CX500t had an even smaller turbo :) a little mini IHI turbo.
http://www.classichondarestorations.com/images/CX500T/cx500t_out.jpg

MikeWasHere05
06-28-2008, 01:07 PM
3k at 65mph?!! damn at 3k I'm doing 80mph [confused]

Assuming 225/45-17. Courtesy of onemoremile:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/2001A4gearing.jpg

You're doing 68mph in 5th at 3k.

AudiRacerS4
06-28-2008, 01:09 PM
Assuming 225/45-17. Courtesy of onemoremile:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/onemoremile/2001A4gearing.jpg

You're doing 68mph in 5th at 3k.

im doing 80 at 3k in 5th gear but maybe thats because i have a tip trans

MikeWasHere05
06-28-2008, 01:29 PM
im doing 80 at 3k in 5th gear but maybe thats because i have a tip trans

Ahh, forgot about the tiptronic. It's possible then.

317ssayzarc
06-28-2008, 01:32 PM
regardless, these cars arent geared for fuel economy lol

Kronic Budz
06-28-2008, 01:43 PM
regardless, these cars arent geared for fuel economy lol


who knows what these cars are actually geared for? Is the 1.8 and 2.8 much different in gearing?

317ssayzarc
06-28-2008, 01:45 PM
yea its a pretty good difference... the 1.8 is geared low since it has less balls than the 2.8 stock... my car now has a 2.8 in it and its enjoyable [up]

AudiRacerS4
06-28-2008, 01:56 PM
yea its a pretty good difference... the 1.8 is geared low since it has less balls than the 2.8 stock... my car now has a 2.8 in it and its enjoyable [up]

adam (tightt) just got the 2.8 trans on his A4 and my stock 1.8T tip trans still has longer gears than his [:p]

Bic-Ball
06-28-2008, 02:06 PM
Mini turbo*

S4 has mini turbos, and it isn't that slow.

When talking about a whole line of cars that all have turbos you can pluralize them, but thanks for the lesson. I'm well aware of how many turbos my car has.

speedydragon
06-28-2008, 02:07 PM
Lol a chip will solve your problem for about a week or two :|

AudiRacerS4
06-28-2008, 02:09 PM
Lol a chip will solve your problem for about a week or two :|

x2 and then you will want even more

Militant-Grunt
06-28-2008, 02:27 PM
x2 and then you will want even more

And then even more won't be enough.

Put some bolt ons on the car and you'll enjoy it for a while, I ran a 14.611 on my stock k03 turbo, its enough to get you by for a bit.

audiness
06-28-2008, 03:00 PM
i've got the K04 and its still not enough. Im maybe as fast as a bone stock WRX now

Yaktizzle417
06-28-2008, 03:02 PM
How about 3400lbs and 150hp? His might have 170 stock, I don't
I don't know about the fuel economy. I'm doing 3K rpm at 65mph. I don't like that.

stock 16.9 in a 1/4
modded I ran 14.93. Mods in sig.
HOW?

I ran a 15.6 bone stock?

diablooffire03
06-28-2008, 05:17 PM
audi a4 is a great AWD dd. By no means fast, but I seem to get some good gas mileage... buy a different type of car to go fast.

onemoremile
06-28-2008, 09:22 PM
The A4 1.8t is slow stock because it isn't an S4. If the A4 was as quick as an S4 then it would cannibalize sales even though the S4 is still a lot more car and a very different driving experience.

badjoke
06-28-2008, 09:39 PM
who knows what these cars are actually geared for? Is the 1.8 and 2.8 much different in gearing?

They're geared for affordable, middle of the line luxury.

You can only have up to 2 our of this list, for any car:

Low Price
Speed
Comfort

mathieums
06-28-2008, 09:44 PM
x2 and then you will want even more

At one point you get tired of spending on your car. Well, I did. I've already put a lot of money on my audi and its only in repairs. I only have a chip + exhaust + suspension.

So It kind of piss me off. The car run fine, it get me from point A to point B.

Fuck it, no more money in that stupid car.

Its now time to have some fun (vtt/sea-doo/ski-doo) or/and get a house.


my 2 cents

djwimbo
06-28-2008, 10:37 PM
HOW?

I ran a 15.6 bone stock?

I dunno, that's just the numbers I found. I never ran my car as a stock car. Stock cars are boring.
I don't care if I bought an R8TDI, I still wouldn't be 100% satisfied with it stock.

Just Quaff
06-28-2008, 11:42 PM
They're geared for affordable, middle of the line luxury.

You can only have up to 2 our of this list, for any car:

Low Price
Speed
Comfort

I like it. It's really quite true. Unless we are talking something above the $100K mark.

Yaktizzle417
06-29-2008, 12:48 AM
I dunno, that's just the numbers I found. I never ran my car as a stock car. Stock cars are boring.
I don't care if I bought an R8TDI, I still wouldn't be 100% satisfied with it stock.
Oh, I was gonna say..

You need some serious help.

Still though, for your mods, 14.9 is still far slower. I hang (lose by half a car/car by mid 4th gear) (06 RSX-S, K20A3) with 14.5sec cars, and I've only got a catback and diode mod with around 18psi? +Slipping clutch.

98a4
06-30-2008, 05:50 AM
Have a boost guage? What boost?
Could have a blown WG actuator and your turbo literally wont boost. Happened to my car a few days after I purchased it.

erikas3
06-30-2008, 06:20 AM
Have a boost guage? What boost?
Could have a blown WG actuator and your turbo literally wont boost. Happened to my car a few days after I purchased it.
+1
Same thing happened to me.. Now THAT was slow! [;)]

Russell2686
06-30-2008, 07:10 AM
118whp stock on a mustang dyno LOL

Alan
06-30-2008, 08:41 AM
I'm chipped K04'd and HFC/Tectonics exhaust, and it's still slow as shit. Automatic 1.8T ftl. These cars are heavy, and expensive. If you're looking for something fast, I'd probably look elsewhere.

matt_mcmhn
06-30-2008, 12:36 PM
I like it. It's really quite true. Unless we are talking something above the $100K mark.

That kind of knocks out the Low Price option.

bradisonn
06-30-2008, 01:02 PM
They're geared for affordable, middle of the line luxury.

You can only have up to 2 our of this list, for any car:

Low Price
Speed
Comfort

One word...Corvette

AudiRacerS4
06-30-2008, 01:17 PM
One word...Corvette

corvettes are not cheap per say and they are not comfortable at all [up]

ThirdStrike
06-30-2008, 01:57 PM
I'm chipped K04'd and HFC/Tectonics exhaust, and it's still slow as shit. Automatic 1.8T ftl. These cars are heavy, and expensive. If you're looking for something fast, I'd probably look elsewhere.

1.its not our fault you got an auto
2. its also not our fault you wasted your money on a k04
3. if you look elsewhere you wil have to spend just as much money to go fast.
alan it seems like u need to go buy a cobra [rolleyes]

steezybme
06-30-2008, 03:26 PM
all of you talking about slow a4's know there are 900 hp b5's out there right??
if you want to get the most for your money or more speed buy:

1. chip your car- Giac (is the best for b5's) $495

2. Do a weight reduction- remove your bumpers and remove BS unneeded covers, spare wheel, get rid of the airbox and run with a evoms v-flow intake...

3. FMIC you can get them cheap on ebay but they wont support anything more than 300 hp..

4. turbo xs hpbc

5. crank up the boost to 18 it'll spike 21 and you'll be set...

if you want more hp. then get a k04, giac k04 flash...

If you want to go big as in BIG TURBO gt27rs and by then you should know all the supporting mods yourself... But you need the cash flow...major...

steezybme
06-30-2008, 03:30 PM
i've got the K04 and its still not enough. Im maybe as fast as a bone stock WRX now

you obviously do know where the gas pedal is... when i was bone stock in my 00' a4 1.8tQ Tip i could keep up and run with my buddys wrx all day...

UN-PIMP-Z-A4
06-30-2008, 07:42 PM
all Of You Talking About Slow A4's Know There Are 900 Hp B5's Out There Right??
If You Want To Get The Most For Your Money Or More Speed Buy:

1. Chip Your Car- Giac (is The Best For B5's) $495

2. Do A Weight Reduction- Remove Your Bumpers And Remove Bs Unneeded Covers, Spare Wheel, Get Rid Of The Airbox And Run With A Evoms V-flow Intake...

3. Fmic You Can Get Them Cheap On Ebay But They Wont Support Anything More Than 300 Hp..

4. Turbo Xs Hpbc

5. Crank Up The Boost To 18 It'll Spike 21 And You'll Be Set...

If You Want More Hp. Then Get A K04, Giac K04 Flash...

If You Want To Go Big As In Big Turbo Gt27rs And By Then You Should Know All The Supporting Mods Yourself... But You Need The Cash Flow...major...
Lmao!!!

Naex
06-30-2008, 07:59 PM
all of you talking about slow a4's know there are 900 hp b5's out there right??
if you want to get the most for your money or more speed buy:

1. chip your car- Giac (is the best for b5's) $495

2. Do a weight reduction- remove your bumpers and remove BS unneeded covers, spare wheel, get rid of the airbox and run with a evoms v-flow intake...

3. FMIC you can get them cheap on ebay but they wont support anything more than 300 hp..

4. turbo xs hpbc

5. crank up the boost to 18 it'll spike 21 and you'll be set...

if you want more hp. then get a k04, giac k04 flash...

If you want to go big as in BIG TURBO gt27rs and by then you should know all the supporting mods yourself... But you need the cash flow...major...


lol well then... [:D]

Just Quaff
06-30-2008, 09:52 PM
That kind of knocks out the Low Price option.

HAHA, oops. I read it wrong. Well, we could always slap a really nice race seat in an Ariel Atom or something then its totally all 3!!! HAHA

S-Power
07-01-2008, 03:09 AM
Bro, you bought the wrong letter audi, b5 is right but not the A should be an S hahaha

boy am i glad i got an s4. Chip,exhaust,dp 370hp [up]

Which we S guys call quick, thats not even fast

steezybme
07-01-2008, 05:37 AM
yes grasshopper... s4 granted has a hundred more pounds of torque but its also alot heavier...

b6onboost
07-01-2008, 05:49 AM
flawed question...not ALL Audis are slow stock. but the A4 1.8T sure is.

20AE428
07-01-2008, 06:05 AM
flawed question...not ALL Audis are slow stock. but the A4 1.8T sure is.

True. Want a fast Audi? Spend big in the RS4 or mod the A3. The new '09 Quattro A3 with an APR Stage 3 will be hella fast! and around the price of an A4.

Alan
07-01-2008, 08:40 AM
1.its not our fault you got an auto
2. its also not our fault you wasted your money on a k04
3. if you look elsewhere you wil have to spend just as much money to go fast.
alan it seems like u need to go buy a cobra [rolleyes]

It's not my fault your a smartass
It's not my fault I didn't spend money on my car because I know it's not fast, and everything I bought was a stock replacement [HFC-Cat K04-K03].
It's not my fault my dad bought my car for 2k
And I'm buying a Vette soon.

But fact is, these cars expensive to make fast. Any 302/LT/LS series motor, and you have a few grand at most to run 11's, and they have a lot left. To run 11's in an Audi, it takes a lot more. I'm not turning this into an Audi vs Whatever pissing contest. I like my car because it's comfortable and we got a good deal, but it sure as hell isn't fast. An A4 is not the car to mod if your going for performance/price, there are so many better platforms in my eyes. But, I commend people like Mike for trying something new, and as much as I wouldn't ever do it, I love to see it happen.

treemolecule
07-01-2008, 09:22 AM
It's not my fault your a smartass
It's not my fault I didn't spend money on my car because I know it's not fast, and everything I bought was a stock replacement [HFC-Cat K04-K03].
It's not my fault my dad bought my car for 2k
And I'm buying a Vette soon.

Apparantley it's not your fault for bieng an idiot and not recognizing the beautiful german engineering your driving. If you want a race car out of an audi then GUT IT OUT and take it to the race track after spending more than you would on that vette, i guarantee on a circuit with plenty of bends you'd smoke a little vette, if you're tryin to street race well then you're just dumb. and it's definately not your fault when you get a vette and your ass out on the side of the road with no gas. [=(]

treemolecule
07-01-2008, 09:32 AM
sorry but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vbOm0i3R7Y FTW

1hotA4
07-01-2008, 10:16 AM
It's not my fault your a smartass
It's not my fault I didn't spend money on my car because I know it's not fast, and everything I bought was a stock replacement [HFC-Cat K04-K03].
It's not my fault my dad bought my car for 2k
And I'm buying a Vette soon.

But fact is, these cars expensive to make fast. Any 302/LT/LS series motor, and you have a few grand at most to run 11's, and they have a lot left. To run 11's in an Audi, it takes a lot more. I'm not turning this into an Audi vs Whatever pissing contest. I like my car because it's comfortable and we got a good deal, but it sure as hell isn't fast. An A4 is not the car to mod if your going for performance/price, there are so many better platforms in my eyes. But, I commend people like Mike for trying something new, and as much as I wouldn't ever do it, I love to see it happen.

In what world do you live in that corvette's run 11's out the gate unless its a c5 z06 with a hell of a driver and some sticky ass tires or a new body c6 z06?

I got an idea you go buy your corvette for 20+ grand give me your audi and i bet for under 10 i can wipe your ass with that audi!

Videlov
07-01-2008, 10:40 AM
sorry but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vbOm0i3R7Y FTW

SIIIIICK video, just shows how great Audi's are!

Alan
07-01-2008, 12:39 PM
Apparantley it's not your fault for bieng an idiot and not recognizing the beautiful german engineering your driving. If you want a race car out of an audi then GUT IT OUT and take it to the race track after spending more than you would on that vette, i guarantee on a circuit with plenty of bends you'd smoke a little vette, if you're tryin to street race well then you're just dumb. and it's definately not your fault when you get a vette and your ass out on the side of the road with no gas. [=(]

WTF are you talking about. I'm stating that In my opinion, I don't think Audi's [at least 1.8T's] are one of the better platforms to start on. I'm no Vette fanboy, I'm interested in buying one as a weekender. I've even been called an Audi fanboy before, because I like the styling, and think that Audi is getting back into the game. Beautiful piece of German Engineering? It's a nice car, Ill give it that, and I take amazing car of my car, above anyone I know. But I'm tired of hearing all this B/S about German>all

When the fuck did I say I want a race car/street race? I street raced once, when I first started driving. I realized I cant take the risk, then went to the track. i ran a 15.7 K04/Chip/HFC/Exhaust. I agreed and said unless you go BT/BAT, Audi's are not fast, but even then, you deal with some lag. I'm all for a small turbo 4, i love my whistle.

And what the fuck do you mean by the last statement? I said I dont street race, quit fucking assuming. I also realize that a Vette will get better mileage than my car does now. I get like 18 mpg, using only about 3psi most of the time. Also, what makes you think an Audi can out handle a Vette? A lighter sports car> a small luxury sedan imo. It just seems like the Audi will hit it's limits way before a Vette, or ANY sports car will, which is to be expected.



In what world do you live in that corvette's run 11's out the gate unless its a c5 z06 with a hell of a driver and some sticky ass tires or a new body c6 z06?


I got an idea you go buy your corvette for 20+ grand give me your audi and i bet for under 10 i can wipe your ass with that audi

You guys have an inflated idea of what speed means to me. I think though, for my mods, my car should be faster, ell, a friend with a 1G talon took off his exhaust and ran a 13.8 [ I know not a truely fair comparison]. Regardless, it doesnt matter, because I enjoy my car, when it doesn't rattle, leak, etc.

My situation. Buy a L98 C4. Bolt ons+ head and cam, and Ill be around 2.5k, and into the 12's. The C4 will also cost 4k that needs some work. I never said out of the gate, I'm not ignorant about cars. But I've seen bolt-ons, heads+cam dip into high elevens. I would keep my Audi longer, but the repair bills, and constant leaks/rattles are driving me up a wall.

Alan
07-01-2008, 12:46 PM
sorry but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vbOm0i3R7Y FTW

Oh shit, a GT2831R beat a stock C6. I said it's unfair to compare the vehicles. I only used the Vette as an example because of the smartass Cobra remark. I realize Audi's can eb fast, but they ARE heavy, and they are SLOW stock. Why not just choose a better platform if you want a fast car? I've love to have a built LT1 C4 in my garage, along side a B7 Avant.

jejeclown
07-01-2008, 01:03 PM
your a dumass. people start on the audi because its a very tunable car and is comfortable at the same time. if a person was to start out on a different platform for a faster car, then they would have the speed, but not the audi comfort. whereas if you mod ur audi, you get both the speed AND the comfort. if youre looking for stock speed, ur in the wrong place.

jejeclown
07-01-2008, 01:10 PM
[QUOTE=Alan;2670838] Also, what makes you think an Audi can out handle a Vette? A lighter sports car> a small luxury sedan imo. It just seems like the Audi will hit it's limits way before a Vette, or ANY sports car will, which is to be expected.[QUOTE]

are you fuckin stupid? audi is FAMOUS for its quattro handling! audi is hands down one of the best handling cars out there. the only thing corvette is famous for, is thier shitty ass fiberglass body (hence the speed. any fiberglass car with a decent motor can move). audis are built tough and are one of the safest cars out there as well. i can piss on a corvette and dent it. have fun in your vette

Alan
07-01-2008, 01:13 PM
This thread is about STOCK SPEED. Ok, I said their are much better options as far as modding goes. Thats it. Call me a dumbass, who cares. Most guys sacrifice that "Audi comfort" when they mod it anyways. Who doesn't have a set of coilovers nowadays? That is a sacrifice in my eyes for comfort. I still think there are much better platforms to mod. Granted, each brand is suited to different tastes, I really dont see the hype? Your right in a sense, I could see an interior quality argument, as the C5 i just detailed had the same interior as any other chevy, but I think when you go for speed and comfort, you're going to sacrifice a little of both. Some cars more than others. Hence my Vette+Avant statement. I still don't know why you guys are freaking out, it's my opinion after owning a B5 A4, and having friends own them.

EX. 335i.



Ugh, Audi is famous for it Quattro system. Audi's dont always handle as good as their counterparts. Under steer is our worst enemy. We get amazing all weather traction, but a higher loss of power, and understeer. I like my Audi because I live in an area with tons of rain and snow. But, I've been outhandled by similar year Bimmers. I was trying to be reasonable with my argument, but you're straight ignorant. Corvettes are made of fiberglass for weight, they aren't built like shit. They certainly dont fit the "can't make turns" American stereotype [which is partially correct]. Thats why Corvettes are so popular. I mentioned one thing about a corvette, and you blow ti up into this. Remember, I will be owning both a c4 AND and Audi,.

AudiRacerS4
07-01-2008, 01:30 PM
[QUOTE=Alan;2670838] Also, what makes you think an Audi can out handle a Vette? A lighter sports car> a small luxury sedan imo. It just seems like the Audi will hit it's limits way before a Vette, or ANY sports car will, which is to be expected.[QUOTE]

are you fuckin stupid? audi is FAMOUS for its quattro handling! audi is hands down one of the best handling cars out there. the only thing corvette is famous for, is thier shitty ass fiberglass body (hence the speed. any fiberglass car with a decent motor can move). audis are built tough and are one of the safest cars out there as well. i can piss on a corvette and dent it. have fun in your vette

an audi a4 is far from one of the best handling cars out there...they are heavy, AWD, and understeer like crazy. a bubble honda for $2000 with a set of sticky tires will out handle an audi with full suspension any day

UN-PIMP-Z-A4
07-01-2008, 05:36 PM
there is alot of audi bandwagoning going on in here...
What do i expect from an audi board...

S-Power
07-01-2008, 08:20 PM
A vette is not a handling car, its a stright line car, thats it

Alan
07-02-2008, 05:50 AM
A vette is not a handling car, its a stright line car, thats it

I really hope your joking...[headbang]

1fstavant
07-02-2008, 06:02 AM
an audi can be fast however any car with an owner that has money can be fast...it is a personal choice as to what car you want to mod....a corvette will rip the balls off of an audi stock at the track because thats what its designed to be a street track car thats afforadable...

and on top of that any american car will go faster for less money