Build Thread Version 2.0 for the avant

[Poopie]

This build will have a slightly bigger budget. Last time around I had a 3 week window and a smaller budget. I just didn't have enough cash or time to do exactly what I wanted. Hopefully I can get it right this time.. I'm picking up and AEB head this weekend off a friend to build in the mean time while I order and wait for parts to come in.

Already have:
Je Pistons
Scat Rods
20mm Pins
Piston rings
034 coated bearings
Powder Coated pulleys and tensioners
Gasket Set
BOV


In the mail:
Garrett Gt3076r .82 ar
034 valve springs
8 exhaust valves
Piping
FMIC

MAP based Meth kit


Still need to order
Tapp Software





Still lots of work ahead of me. Gathering parts is the worst part. Does anyone know where I can buy new valve seats for a 20v head?

[tamadrumr88]

check http://qedpower.com/ they should have most everything you need [up]

[JumboBlack1.8]

Sounds like it should be an amazing built man.....can't wait til my budget allows me to do somethin like this. What kinda numbers are you shootin for?

[onemoremile]

Looks like a 400whp build to me. [:D][up]

[Poopie]

I'm hoping for 400 whp on pump 93.

[Don Supreme]

Good stuff, are you getting ti retainers?

[bassed]

Between you, me and Kevin's BAT we should be having lots of fun and pribaly the most accumulated B5 whp within a 10 mile radius:)

Why build the head so much, you don't drag race:)

[Poopie]

I wanna take it up to 8k. Plus it gives me a reason to have a large tach....JK

Might as well throw in springs while I'll have the head apart. I'm keeping the stock retainers. I'm told they would last longer. Like Ian said, this isn't a drag racer.


I'm still looking for a place that sells valve seats.

[94jedi]

wow poop, keep us updated on the build. I wish I had the money to do something like this...

[onemoremile]

I'm still looking for a place that sells valve seats.

Try scch-heads.com. They might be able to point you in the right direction.

[Euro-Tuner]

what do you do for work?

[Euro-Tuner]

...so are you going with 83mm pistons and an ABA crank?

[Nebone]

317ssayzarc (Jakes) head is fully built and I was in the car when it was hitting slightly under 8k. I'd definately say its worth it as you can get 70 mph out of 2nd gear that way and on.

Are you using the AWM block? AEG 2.0 8V crank fits that.

[Poopie]

Staying 1.8l. The extra grand to go .2l wasn't worth it for me. I also like to keep most of the build in house. If I went 2.0l I would have gone with a gt35. If the .82 ar proves to be too laggy, I have a .63 ar housing to slap on.

I work for a company designing/developing/research battery hardware design. Mostly lithium ion cells. I'm a full time student though for Electrical Engineering. Hopefully graduating.....sometime in the future. LOL

[Nebone]

Staying 1.8l. The extra grand to go .2l wasn't worth it for me. I also like to keep most of the build in house. If I went 2.0l I would have gone with a gt35. If the .82 ar proves to be too laggy, I have a .63 ar housing to slap on.

I work for a company designing/developing/research battery hardware design. Mostly lithium ion cells. I'm a full time student though for Electrical Engineering. Hopefully graduating.....sometime in the future. LOL

Thats what I would do and I also have an AWM. This might be the first documented AWM build here, minus the head. WIll you be using the hydraulic cam chain tensioner?

Electrical engineering is definately the foundation for the company you work for. I just graduated mechanical engineering last month.

[Poopie]

Actually it would be nice if I had an ME degree with material science. Oh well, at the moment its just a job and not a career.

Bassed has a built 2.0 AWM.

I'm going with the hydrolic tensioner. The tune will be for mafless, catless, sai delete, and VVT delete.

[Nebone]

Nice setup then, but I'd like to be running both MAF and MAP data.

I'd like to see the AMW torn apart in few shots. Mine is aching to leave the bay for a refresher.

What manifold?

[bassed]

Actually it would be nice if I had an ME degree with material science. Oh well, at the moment its just a job and not a career.

Bassed has a built 2.0 AWM.

I'm going with the hydrolic tensioner. The tune will be for mafless, catless, sai delete, and VVT delete.

Yup I have a 2.0 AWM, but an AEB head with VVT:) I think I'm the first fully built 2.0 for an AWM on here, AW and pretty much all the forums, but not the first to do so by any means:)

Tune doesnt need to delete VVT just unplug the sensor.

[bassed]

Nice setup then, but I'd like to be running both MAF and MAP data.

I'd like to see the AMW torn apart in few shots. Mine is aching to leave the bay for a refresher.

What manifold?

Why MAF? I truly see no point if you have a MAP.

[Squarrl]

does VVT do anything on our cars?

[Poopie]

Perhaps something with warmup

[Eurotuned_A4]

im curious what you guys building your engines do for passing emissions. I definately want to build mine very similar to what poopie is wokring on, but i gotta have the thing pass emissions.

[Squarrl]

Perhaps something with warmup

I have a bad Sarcasm filter

[Seerlah]

im curious what you guys building your engines do for passing emissions. I definately want to build mine very similar to what poopie is wokring on, but i gotta have the thing pass emissions.

I am no expert, but it is not the engine build per se but the bigger turbo set up that needs to pass inspection. In my state, to pass emissions they simply use the little OBD port during inspection. Other states work different. If the engine throws a code, you simply do not pass inspection. Whether that be for a light bulb to emissions. That is why a tune for a Big Turbo set up is very important, among other reasons. Another reason why so many go the Unitronics route or the CTapp route. They remove any emission codes that would barr you from passing inspection.

*no expert, just what I know

[Eurotuned_A4]

doesnt really matter for me right now since the county i live in doesnt require emissions. maybe ill just keep the car registered here....lol. once i upgrade it would be all sorted out. uintil then i watch everyone else build their engines while my rods sit under my bed[:p]

[pac1085]

I run the car on the stock ecu, maf, injectors, etc when it's time for inspection. Hope it's still able to complete all the readiness tests with the 2.0 though!

[t1demont1]

inspection?! Us Florida boys dont have to deal with this headache :D

[Poopie]

as long as you can trick the ecu you are fine. You just need to find a place that doesn't do a visual inspection.

Ian passed with no issues. Usually pepboys doesn't give a shit.

[bassed]

im curious what you guys building your engines do for passing emissions. I definately want to build mine very similar to what poopie is wokring on, but i gotta have the thing pass emissions.

I pass with flying colors here in PA. I have no issues, there is no visual and I have no codes due to the programming when it comes to emissions related items.

[quattro16]

Or you can just be like me and have an inspection liscense. [:D]

[Poopie]

i don't wanna talk about inspections. firestone busted my bumper doing mine and they are not paying for it....bitches...

[t1demont1]

That shit is rough.

[Poopie]

went shopping on ebay. I purchased everything except the tune...now i'm just waiting for chris tapp to e-mail me back

[Seerlah]

What is it you got off of ebay, if you don't mind me asking? I just want to know of more things that are safe to purchase from ebay. Thanks!

[Nebone]

What is it you got off of ebay, if you don't mind me asking? I just want to know of more things that are safe to purchase from ebay. Thanks!

Branded stuff is good to buy off ebay. If you're looking for a boost controller or something and its original Greddy or Apexi then get it. If its a replica from China then you don't.

I hope to see all these BT cars from PA during Waterfest.

[bassed]

Branded stuff is good to buy off ebay. If you're looking for a boost controller or something and its original Greddy or Apexi then get it. If its a replica from China then you don't.

I hope to see all these BT cars from PA during Waterfest.


BT? You mean BAT[:D] Poopie doesn't do shows. Dietbudda will be at Cult Classic and H20, he has a crazy build going on right now as well. I will be at Cult Classic, WF and H20.[>_<]

[Nebone]

O'cmon...

The more the marrier.

[Poopie]

some flanges, BOV adapter flange, intercooler piping.

[Poopie]

Branded stuff is good to buy off ebay. If you're looking for a boost controller or something and its original Greddy or Apexi then get it. If its a replica from China then you don't.

I hope to see all these BT cars from PA during Waterfest.


i'll probably go to waterfest.....i'm not really a show person.

[dougyfresh]

Where do you get an extra grand to go 2.0L?

06a block:
$300 for a cast crank
$300 for machining and honing
piston and ring cost is built in already since you're getting forged pistons (unless you already had 81mm forged pistons somewhere)
bearings are already built in since you're doing them anyway

[Nebone]

He might as well hone the stock 1.8T block. Clint had a AEG crank for sale for like $100.

[bassed]

He might as well hone the stock 1.8T block. Clint had a AEG crank for sale for like $100.

AEG is not plug and play it requires machining. It will cost Aeron close to 1k to go 2.0L on a AWM. I know because I have a 2.0L AWM(1980cc).

[AudiA4_20T]

right the 058 blocks need a lot more work

[Poopie]

yeah i did the math. Machine shop costs around here aren't friendly with the cost factor. even having my head rebuilt will cost a pretty penny. I'm still waiting for USRT to e-mail me back....I might as well just call them.

[Poopie]

Where do you get an extra grand to go 2.0L?

06a block:
$300 for a cast crank
$300 for machining and honing
piston and ring cost is built in already since you're getting forged pistons (unless you already had 81mm forged pistons somewhere)
bearings are already built in since you're doing them anyway

Yes I picked up the 81mm pistons as a package deal. I'm fine with a higher spool up. Lag is just foreplay. If its laggy I'll just put a .63 ar housing on that I have laying around. It shouldn't spool that much later then a 71r. On the 3071r i was hitting 20 psi at 3700-3800 rpm.

[Poopie]

anyone selling a stock M or CH box ecu?

[317ssayzarc]

He might as well hone the stock 1.8T block. Clint had a AEG crank for sale for like $100.

he cant use the AEG crank for the 06A block since hes 058... That means he needs an ABA (preferably OBD1) and a modified oil squirter, block walls and oil pump shaft [headbang]

[Poopie]

Exactly. Its no fun at all modding the 058. I'm just trying to stay within my skill limits and allotted budget.

[Poopie]

I'm using hockey pucks for motor mounts and theres nothing you can do to stop me!

[dougyfresh]

AEG is not plug and play it requires machining. It will cost Aeron close to 1k to go 2.0L on a AWM. I know because I have a 2.0L AWM(1980cc).

That is what I thought... 058 block. Hence why I stuffed the 06A before my numbers. I just didn't read which block he had so I wasn't entirely sure. Makes perfect sense. Its not easy (and inexpensive) to stroke a 058 block.

Looking forward to hearing how this works out for you! Glad to hear you found the vehicle of choice!

[Poopie]

yeah i knew the 058 was a bit more expensive to stroke to 2.0l. But the mafless tune is what sold me on the awm. I would throw up if i had to set up another intake and maf.

[biketsai]

I'm using hockey pucks for motor mounts and theres nothing you can do to stop me!

Id like to see this, haha

[Poopie]

Its gonna be awesome. I have a set of blown mounts on my avant i'm gonna tear apart. My rs4 mounts that were on my sedan already went softy on me. I think it was a combo of power and sloppy tranny mounts i had before the stern mounts went in.

[t1demont1]

Im interested to see how the hell your going to use hockey pucks for motor mounts.

[Poopie]

really easy. Stack them and then drill a hole in the center for a long bolt.

[onemoremile]

Hot rodders have been doing it forever.

The old guy in my office told me that canadian babies chew on hockey pucks rather than teething rings. Said it gets them used to the taste of rubber in their mouth. Told him there has to be a few dirty jokes in there somewhere. He turned bright red and walked away.

[Poopie]

LOL C'mon there are different flavors now. Greasy latex is a thing of the past


Anyways, I finally spoke to Chris Tapp. He said I would have trouble hitting 400whp on pump with out a tubular mani and cams. I definitely don't want a tubular just cause of cost and reliability. Cams will come and I guess I can fab up an intake manifold. I'm getting a two program ECU. I'm still debating whether I want to have a pump/meth combo or a pump/c16 combo and lemmi the pump file a few degrees for meth injection. I'm leaning towards the pump/c16 combo. No more flip switch though to change files! all done through the cruise control.

[Nebone]

really easy. Stack them and then drill a hole in the center for a long bolt.

Get large (puck diameter) metal washers and sandwitch the hockey pucks between them, then run the bolt through all that. Like a Big-Mac.

[t1demont1]

What about the spa mani that ian is running? isnt that supposed to flow like a tubular, but reliable cast design?

[bassed]

What about the spa mani that ian is running? isnt that supposed to flow like a tubular, but reliable cast design?

Pretty much as close to a tubular in flow as possible. Equal runners, and the merge collection is spot on, I couldn't be happier! Anyone who wants a SPA mani better get in touch with SPA or I asap they are limited in inventory and the backorders are piled high.

[t1demont1]

Pretty much as close to a tubular in flow as possible. Equal runners, and the merge collection is spot on, I couldn't be happier! Anyone who wants a SPA mani better get in touch with SPA or I asap they are limited in inventory and the backorders are piled high.

Word. I ordered mine today. Guys are good to deal with. Im shooting to be the second a4 running one of these beautiful manis.

[Poopie]

you would #3 as far as I know

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Dietbudda/Nitrous%20Build/P6036352.jpg

[t1demont1]

well numero 3 isnt so bad. Whos car is that?

[Poopie]

Dietbudda's aka Kevin. Look in between injector 2 and 3 for a little surprise.

[t1demont1]

I saw that, what is it?

[Bic-Ball]

nos
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y158/Dietbudda/Nitrous%20Build/P5216344.jpg

[t1demont1]

crazy...

[Nebone]

Once there is a successful recipe, everyone is a chef.

There is always someone that adds an extra spice...like NOS.

[bassed]

Once there is a successful recipe, everyone is a chef.

There is always someone that adds an extra spice...like NOS.


I'll stick with h20/meth and keep my 2.0L intact thank you very much[;)] Different strokes for different folks. I'm not a fan of NOS myself.

[onemoremile]

His oil feed line looks like it'll get cooked good.

[solowb5]

It's deffinately going to ballon and choke the oil off eventually. Better fix that problem.

[onemoremile]

I'll stick with h20/meth and keep my 2.0L intact thank you very much[;)] Different strokes for different folks. I'm not a fan of NOS myself.

Nitrous is used by big block guys to catch turbo guys. [>_<]

[solowb5]

Or to spool crazy large turbos on small engines like the 1.8t ;)

[Poopie]

A little update. I took the AEB head i'm swapping to the engine shop to have it hot tanked and have a 3 angle valve job done and to fix 3 valve seats that got dented when the motor popped. No porting or anything is done. When I get it back I might clean up the casting on the ports, but nothing crazy. I got my 034 valve springs and new supertech exhaust valves in. Hopefully I can pick up my cleaned head today.

I cleaned up some valves.
Before on the right, after on the left.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0174.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0175.jpg

package received from my cousin at Spoolin Performance. He also sells some sweet t-shirts and stuff. Let me know if you wanna buy any

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0185.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0187.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0188.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0186.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0184.jpg

[Nebone]

Thats an inlet!

Looking good.

[t1demont1]

Some of thoses shirts look pretty tight, got any better shots of them?

[Poopie]

i will when I get home.

[UN-PIMP-Z-A4]

wow

[bassed]

i will when I get home.

This is going to be interesting. I can't wait for you me and Kevin to all go for a nice long drive[:p]

[Poopie]

i want cams now. i woke up to post that. k bye

[317ssayzarc]

i want cams now. i woke up to post that. k bye

im all for it [evilsmile]

[BaconBait]

What cams? Cat 3562?

And what is taking so long?

[Poopie]

i dunno....i can't spend much more on my car. I'm trying to buy a house

[Poopie]

What cams? Cat 3562?

And what is taking so long?

i have all the parts. I gotta find a loaner car and a free weekend.

[bassed]

i dunno....i can't spend much more on my car. I'm trying to buy a house

Wait you ad well? I started talking with a Realtor last week, hopefully by January I'll have a house and my own garage:)

PS I am only a tard 50% of the time.

[Poopie]

I'm getting a new job in Washington DC soon. $10,000 cash signing incentive FTW. I gotta start saving up for a down payment.

[bassed]

I'm getting a new job in Washington DC soon. $10,000 cash signing incentive FTW. I gotta start saving up for a down payment.

Signing bonus is your down payment! DC is brutal Aeron, the traffic blows! I'll take the train when I visit:) I am stuck in Philly till I finish the 2nd degree, but found out this week I have enough credits to log IDP hours, which I can back track on for the past 2.5 years and by January I can sit for the ARE. Basically I'll be a registered Architect before I graduate hopefully;)

[onemoremile]

You guys are turning into such grown ups. [:D]

[Nebone]

I'm getting a new job in Washington DC soon. $10,000 cash signing incentive FTW. I gotta start saving up for a down payment.

Congrats! Aren'y you still in school? Thats a large sign up incentive. My buddy just got a job as a Sr. Test Engineer at Borg Warner Transmissions but needs to move to Mississipi from RI.

[Poopie]

Signing bonus is your down payment! DC is brutal Aeron, the traffic blows! I'll take the train when I visit:) I am stuck in Philly till I finish the 2nd degree, but found out this week I have enough credits to log IDP hours, which I can back track on for the past 2.5 years and by January I can sit for the ARE. Basically I'll be a registered Architect before I graduate hopefully;)

yeah its pretty brutal. I don't wanna stay there long, maybe a couple years, but I don't wanna piss money away paying $1,000 a month for an apartment. I can't so no to money! Yeah still in school, but they are willing to train me, start me off, and I can work at home while I'm close to graduating.

[Dietbudda]

Yo aaron, you seriously working in DC? Good for you buddy... congrats!

I'm excited to see you stepping up the build and look forward to helping you, hoxever i'm very dissapointed you're dropping the 98, who am i gonna use to borrow parts to test?

Once i get the new ICM we're gonna start street tuning... I give both you guys a call...

[Dietbudda]

Oh and onemoremile and every other keyboard jockey who wants to sit and critque, the pics you saw are mock up shots, nothings getting cooked or destroyed, i just needed to see where everything sits.

Nitrous is gonna be sweet, different strokes for different folks. The first person to tell me I should be participating in track event and setting up for that, not interested. Give me a freeway and a muscle car to race!

Sorry to TJ poops.

[Dietbudda]

i have all the parts. I gotta find a loaner car and a free weekend.

you can drive the passat once my car is running...

[Poopie]

woo street tuning!! I'm gonna start my build in about 2 weeks hopefully. I just got to order some banjo fittings and a timing belt kit.

[Poopie]

Got the head back from the machine shop. A few months ago it seemed like everyone had head problems and worn valve guides. I stripped down the aeb head again to have the guides checked out. One one needed replacing. There were 2 more that were close but the machinist said that the exhaust guides are always a hair loose and that replacing it would stress the head. I had the one replaced and the one valve seat redone and $50 bucks out the door. sweeeeet. now back to assembly. maybe i'll post up a pic or two.

[t1demont1]

i forgot you planned on building this car lol

[sixfiveoh]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0187.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/IMAG0186.jpg


Whatttt... those two are sick! There's nothing in the clothing portion of their site though...

[Poopie]

Whatttt... those two are sick! There's nothing in the clothing portion of their site though...

i'll see if he has anymore. they were kind of a limited run

[AudiA4_20T]

I'm getting a new job in Washington DC soon. $10,000 cash signing incentive FTW. I gotta start saving up for a down payment.

how soon? Im like 5 minutes from DC... Just take the metro up we can roll to some meets

[djwimbo]

this thread almost took a 5 month break. Glad to see it back again.

Christmas present to yourself, a running & driving BAT Audi.

[Poopie]

how soon? Im like 5 minutes from DC... Just take the metro up we can roll to some meets

eehh new plans. That job is put on hold. I'm sure it will be there in the future.

Yeah the build is actually starting to pick up. I just need to pick up a new VVT cam chain tensioner and the head will be full assembled. I also need oil dip stick tube, and an 06a oil pan. I should be picking up an 06a AWP block this weekend to start building the bottom end.

Also in the mail is ARP head bolts, thermostat, and timing belt tensioner.

[Poopie]

For those asking, here is a link for the apparel i posted. I think numbers may be limited to so get those debit cards out.

http://www.spoolinperformance.com/apparel-clothing-gear-c-101.html

anyways, build is slowly coming together. I have too many projects. I cleaned out my garage a bit. Bought a new torpedo heater, got a snow blower, stacked some things on two carts. Space is limited. This guy heats up a two car garage to 65* in no time. I got it 50% off at lowes. $139.50!!! i couldn't pass it up. I'm running it on diesel now cause i couldn't find any kerosene on the weekend.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/heater.jpg


I have a motor swap for an Audizine member in a week or two. Just waiting for his car and motor to arrive. Nothing special, just swapping in an AEB. My motor is assembled though. I have a few pics I need to upload from my phone though. Here is an assembled pic.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/AWMmotor.jpg

-stock displacement
-je 9.2:1 81mm pistons
-scat rods
-034 coated bearings
-IE standard size valve set
-revolver cams
-034 valve spring set
-ARP head bolts
-3 angle valve job
-new valve guide seals

That's pretty much the engine hardware set.

The car in question in its natural habitat
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1140555/Audia4snow.jpg

[Don Supreme]

I'm getting a new job in Washington DC soon. $10,000 cash signing incentive FTW. I gotta start saving up for a down payment.

You won't see as much of that as you think -- special tax bracket for that bonus.

[Don Supreme]

-stock displacement
-je 9.2:1 81mm pistons
-scat rods
-034 coated bearings
-IE standard size valve set
-revolver cams
-034 valve spring set
-ARP head bolts
-3 angle valve job
-new valve guide seals

That's pretty much the engine hardware set.



Nice, I just don't like the revolvers.

[bassed]

The wheels on the bus go.....................































Really slowly around:) Call me if we are doing anything this weekend coming up.





Nice, I just don't like the revolvers.

They're nice and smooth, not everyone drag races all the time:)

and Sean the job crap was from like June(ish)..........LOL it didn't happen.

[Poopie]

I didn't take the job. I tanked a class and pushed back my graduation. Job market is pretty harsh for engineers. If anyone has a foot in somewhere let me know. A lot of places I inquired about tell me there isn't enough money to hire a newbie. I don't even like electrical engineering anyways so I don't know why i am trying so hard. I'm thinking about just staying in school and going for mechanical engineering. I will have a double mechanical and electrical engineering with a minor in business marketing. If I can't get a well paying job after that I have no hope for myself. The places willing to give me a job aren't paying much more then the job I have right now. I got it pretty easy at my job now so I might as well sit on it since its pretty secure till i land in something better.

[Poopie]

Nice, I just don't like the revolvers.

Are they too mild for your liking? I might step up to something more aggressive down the line when everything is running good.

[JumboBlack1.8]

Always thought you were going with a 2.0L on this build......regardless, looks like it'll be a nice setup....haven't read the entire thread, but what software you goin with? Expected numbers?

[bassed]

I didn't take the job. I tanked a class and pushed back my graduation. Job market is pretty harsh for engineers. If anyone has a foot in somewhere let me know. A lot of places I inquired about tell me there isn't enough money to hire a newbie. I don't even like electrical engineering anyways so I don't know why i am trying so hard. I'm thinking about just staying in school and going for mechanical engineering. I will have a double mechanical and electrical engineering with a minor in business marketing. If I can't get a well paying job after that I have no hope for myself. The places willing to give me a job aren't paying much more then the job I have right now. I got it pretty easy at my job now so I might as well sit on it since its pretty secure till i land in something better.


Go to Drexel for ME, do co-op look at PWI, AKF and or call Matty (his old fling Cassey's pop's owns the MEP/S firm that did the Eagles Stadium and Comcast.

[Poopie]

The wheels on the bus go.....................































Really slowly around:) Call me if we are doing anything this weekend coming up.






They're nice and smooth, not everyone drag races all the time:)

and Sean the job crap was from like June(ish)..........LOL it didn't happen.

you can help tear into this aeb this weekend. I'll let you know

[Poopie]

Always thought you were going with a 2.0L on this build......regardless, looks like it'll be a nice setup....haven't read the entire thread, but what software you goin with? Expected numbers?

ehehh 2.0l wasn't worth the money. I don't mind spool up. Plus with the hardware in the head, I can make decent power up top. I'm confident I can hit 400awhp on pump 93 at like 24-25ish psi on the mafless tapp tune. Those are my goals atleast. From what I've searched, its pretty realistic. Turbo is gt30r .82 ar. I just hope the 630cc injectors can provide enough fuel.

[Poopie]

Go to Drexel for ME, do co-op look at PWI, AKF and or call Matty (his old fling Cassey's pop's owns the MEP/S firm that did the Eagles Stadium and Comcast.

drexel = 45k per year. I'm trying to get out of college with $0 in student loans.

[bassed]

drexel = 45k per year. I'm trying to get out of college with $0 in student loans.

Student Loans aer good debt, I wish I could do the same as you intend but to late[headbang][headbang]

Drexel rapes you IMO, but for engineering it's a great school. Christ I am paying 3k for 2 night classes every 10 weeks[=(] Only 40k worth of credits and I'll have the second degree. I'll be sitting for my Architcetural Registartion before I graduate it seems FTW[o_o]

[317ssayzarc]

ehehh 2.0l wasn't worth the money. I don't mind spool up. Plus with the hardware in the head, I can make decent power up top. I'm confident I can hit 400awhp on pump 93 at like 24-25ish psi on the mafless tapp tune. Those are my goals atleast. From what I've searched, its pretty realistic. Turbo is gt30r .82 ar. I just hope the 630cc injectors can provide enough fuel.

Aaron, check out the thread in the B6 forum titled "More to come..."

That should give you an idea of what a 30R .63 can do. He did run out of fuel at under 400awhp with 630's though [:(]

Good luck with the job man. [up]

[Don Supreme]

Are they too mild for your liking? I might step up to something more aggressive down the line when everything is running good.

I have never seen any gains worth writing home about from them... This given I have seen a few builds and dynos of cars running them.

Compared to the cat cams, such as 3652,53s, and 58s. The revolver gains seem hardly worth the effort. I am not trying to offend anyone here. Its not about drag racing, its about making power.

If you look @ Jake's father's B6 (running 3658s) - He has a broad power band, very nice torque curve (For the non drag racers) and SOLID TOP END-- with a GT3076R to boot.

Your cam setup is very important to optimizing your airflow. ---------------------In and Out------------------

[Don Supreme]

Aaron, check out the thread in the B6 forum titled "More to come..."

That should give you an idea of what a 30R .63 can do. He did run out of fuel at under 400awhp with 630's though [:(]

Good luck with the job man. [up]

I think it will be a totally different situation on a B5 fueling setup... Even Javad made a comment which supports my theory on a 4 bar, rising FPR allowing for ~400AWHP with 630s.

[Poopie]

I have never seen any gains worth writing home about from them... This given I have seen a few builds and dynos of cars running them.

Compared to the cat cams, such as 3652,53s, and 58s. The revolver gains seem hardly worth the effort. I am not trying to offend anyone here. Its not about drag racing, its about making power.

If you look @ Jake's father's B6 (running 3658s) - He has a broad power band, very nice torque curve (For the non drag racers) and SOLID TOP END-- with a GT3076R to boot.

Your cam setup is very important to optimizing your airflow. ---------------------In and Out------------------

Noted. Thanks for info. I'll def look into that in a couple months.

[Poopie]

I think it will be a totally different situation on a B5 fueling setup... Even Javad made a comment which supports my theory on a 4 bar, rising FPR allowing for ~400AWHP with 630s.

Don't the B6's run out of injectors faster since they are a returnless system? Bobq says the 630s should safe to 430whp.

So what do you guys think? Go with larger injectors? I haven't sent my ecu out so I think i might as well go with 1000cc injectors. I'm gonna run race gas and high boost (28-30psi)

[bassed]

Don't the B6's run out of injectors faster since they are a returnless system? Bobq says the 630s should safe to 430whp.

So what do you guys think? Go with larger injectors? I haven't sent my ecu out so I think i might as well go with 1000cc injectors. I'm gonna run race gas and high boost (28-30psi)

Don't ask us, ask Chris he's writing your tune[wrench]

[Don Supreme]

Don't the B6's run out of injectors faster since they are a returnless system? Bobq says the 630s should safe to 430whp.

So what do you guys think? Go with larger injectors? I haven't sent my ecu out so I think i might as well go with 1000cc injectors. I'm gonna run race gas and high boost (28-30psi)

I am going with the new bosch 1000cc high z units (if I ever decide to really see this thing through), but my end goal is a little bit higher than 400 awhp.

The bosch units are rather expensive though, so you should really think on it.

[Poopie]

self necro bump

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/photo.jpg

still have to tig up the waste gate dump and the FMIC tubes. Getting closer. haha

[Seerlah]

Just re-read this thread. So, engine is already built and you recently picked up the ME7 Suite? Didn't you say you had 225 TT pistons (can't recall engine code)? Or did you mean you had those in an actual 225 TT?

And 2008? lol

[Poopie]

Hahaha yeah well I don't have a garage in Philly so I only work on it when I go back to my parents. Running 8.5:1 je pistons now. I built the engine after my sedan was totaled and I couldnt settle on a tune. At first I was going back to a standard tapp ots tune but I really wanted to squeeze the most out of the setup so I began inquiring about local Dyno tunes. Then people started getting into maestro and the support for it grew. I also bought a tig welder so I started fabbing my own things then all of a sudden it's 3 years later. I also had an e30 somewhere in between.

[Seerlah]

You wouldn't happen to still have those old TT pistions laying around, would you?

[Poopie]

nope don't have them anymore. i got them off ebay. in reality after you spend money on new rings and refurbing the pistons, you are better of just getting some mahle's

[Seerlah]

I picked up AEB pistons and Brute rods for $500 shipped. But if you had the TT pistons, I would have resold these AEBs and used yours with the 9:1 CR. Trying to keep my build on a budget, and can't afford fancy pistons [:p].

And what do you mean by refurbishing the pistons? I was just planning on throwing them in a bucket of degreaser dilluted with water, and going at them with a brush. Is this not a good idea?

[Poopie]

I would be careful of what solvent you use cause I had a set of awm pistons sitting in degreaser and the coating on the skirt fell apart. You should be fine though if you don't leave degreaser on them too long. I had mine diluted 1:1. Just clean the gunk off and out of the ring grooves. They are gonna get dirty in the motor anyways.

[Seerlah]

Thanks for that. I would have never gave it one thought. And since you gave me a fair warning, did a little Google searching. What's your opinion on Piston Kleen? Sorry if my questions are bothersome [cool].

http://www.orisonmarketing.com/cleaners/piston/carbon.html

And to keep the thread on topic: Do you plan to tune yourself or have a professional do it?

[Poopie]

I used oil eater for a lot of stuff. I used this industrial engine degreaser on the pistons. It's potent stuff.

I plan on getting the car running on the base file from tapp and tweaking from there. I'll be playing with maf and mafless set ups. I'm just wondering if I can run a bov on the maf set up. I'm not sure how it will react losing metered air. I'll have to see what the b6 guys are doing.

[Seerlah]

Why not just recirculate it, if running a MAF? If you feel the Forge units are not large enough, Tial makes a recirculating valve. And I think the Synapse one can be changed from vent to recirculating.

[Poopie]

I just don't want to fab the intake and have plumbing running all over the place. It's tight with the atp manifold.

[biketsai]

Id love to hear how a Mafless tune works out for you, and how much different it is tuning the AWM vs. the AEB (which seems to be the majority of the B5 Maestro users).

[Poopie]

awm gets to enjoy quick tune where you can make quick adjustments to idle, rev, etc. does the aeb get 2step launch control? I'm not sure

anyway, i made my oil feed line at work since i lost mine/gave it away. 38" of 200 series -4an stainless braid line with 200 series A-1 -4an hose ends. I should do a write up on how to assemble these guys.
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/oilfeed.jpg

[Seerlah]

A tip to avoid getting poked would also be helpfull!

[Poopie]

haha well there is a technique to cutting the hose. You can try cutting the braids very slow with a cutoff wheel. Or you can zip it as fast as possible and cooling it down in cool water. This prevents the inner layer of stainless braid to lift off the rubber. You can also use a sharp chisel and a hammer to slice through it over an aluminum block. This method sucks cause you oval the hose and its difficult to squeeze into the sleeve end of the fitting. Then just be careful or wear gloves.

[Poopie]

i'm not sure if chris can get my ecyu registered on the weekend, so i'm gonna crank it over on the stock ecu to see if she fires up tomorrow. [:D]

[Poopie]

no start =( could be back coilpacks or my cams are not timed up. [=(]

[bmx_a4]

Damn, that's disappoint!

[Poopie]

i got my maestro base file. i think my cams our out of time. Gonna pull the valve cover off and readjust next weekend. I also need to replace my coilpack harness. I have many frayed wires. =(

[Seerlah]

Sucks to hear. Is there any off the shelf solution for frayed injector harness wire repair?

[Poopie]

i'm just gonna replace the entire coilpack harness. they are only about $50 bucks. I figured i would have tear into the harness anyways to find the issue.

[Seerlah]

I was actually asking if there is a replacement injector harness repair kit [:p]

But your way does sound easier. Just take a good one from an engine harness and solder the wires?

[Poopie]

haha oh whoops. i completely skipped over that. The harness you can buy gets repinned into the factor harness. No soldering required. You just have to disassemble the whole thing. haha.

[Poopie]

anyone have a cam tensioner tool?

[SS92]

anyone have a cam tensioner tool?

PM Me

[Poopie]

PM Me

you inbox is full. pm me a price shipped you are looking for when you get it cleared out

[Poopie]

pulled the valve cover and compared my cam positions and my intake cam is 180* off. EFF ME IN THE A

think my valves are bent? They are revolver cams so the are a little bit higher lift.

[redline380]

180 off? holy shit! who the hell timed that them? i could try to think abotu the motion in my head to see if your valves are bent but i dont wanna think that hard right now. im just gonna say im sure they are. if you dont wanna take the head off just re time them and compression test. but im sure they are bent to shit. when the piston wanted to compress, your cam was exhausting. not good.

[Aliel]

There could be a small chance that the valves are not bent. I've seen it before. I hope you get lucky.

[Poopie]

i timed them. revolver cams did not come with timing marks. I must have fudged lining them up. ugh head is coming off next week.

[Don Supreme]

Damn Poopie... I can't believe you haven't finished this thing yet.

[Poopie]

you and me both. haha. i was busy with other projects. When you have a daily. these things take a lot longer. When my b5 sedan was my only ride, i had not choice but to bang out projects.

[Poopie]

Pull my head after a failed compression check. 20 bent valves :(. Just ordered another set and gonna try again. I also think I found the cause of why I don't have spark to cylinder 1. I took apart the wiring harness and the blue signal pulled right out of the connector. Gonna replace the broken connector and crimp on a new connection. I also have to smooth out the little nicks from the valves kissing the pistons. I hope to be running next weekend!!

[Seerlah]

How are your piston hats looking?

[Poopie]

2 nicks on the tops from the exhaust valves and barely anything from the intake. some light sanding will take like 90% of it away.


i just wanna hear the motor start and have the car move. i'm already planning to go 83mm pistons and stroke it next year.

if the blue signal is really the culprit i'm ordering this kit right away.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/418987-034-Coilpack-harness-installed-Great-Product

[Seerlah]

Wish they had a repair kit for the injectors.

[Poopie]

Got my new valves today. Took a half day to tear apart the head. Assembled with new valves, fixed my coil pack wire and fired her up. She started for a brief 5 seconds! It stalled out but the battery is dead and possibly the starter has issues. I'll try and address them this weekend

[Poopie]

I just had a thought. I think I mad have poor grounding to the engine mount. I cleaned it up and sprayed them silver and I don't think I sanded the grounding point making my starter seem to struggle. I'll give it a try tomorrow and see what happens. I'm so close!

[Poopie]

turns out to be coil bind in my valvetrain. I had 034 valve springs that were made by Eurospec but they are only meant for stock cams. My revolver cams have too much lift. =( gonna throw on a stock AEB while the fancy one gets rebuilt correctly this time. Inching closer i guess. I'm gonna try and install new aeb head tomorrow night.

[Poopie]

she is idling in my drivway right now! still can't drive it far. its not registered, insured, inspected. I'll take care of that in the next few weeks.

issues
-flywheel has a very audible chatter
-stock aeb i put in has a pretty loud valve train.
-figured i need an oil pressure gauge too
-button up the wideband wiring
-do a little tuning, it runs better with out the maf. No code for it so far so maybe i'll convert it over all mafless. idles and drives fine. i went around the block.
-a few exhaust leaks.

[Poopie]

welp, a nasty knock developed and the motor ate a rod bearing. oh well, i'm gonna bored it out to 83mm and throw in an AEG crank and go 2.0L.

=(

[jaychen]

Dang,

strokers are good though!

[Seerlah]

Wow, seems you are taking it in stride. I would be rather perturbed. But what can you do, except move on! Hope things work out.

[Poopie]

Well what can you do. I'm pretty motivated to get this car going again. I purchased wiseco pistons and the aeg crank. Gonna order the head gasket Monday. What are my options?

[Aliel]

That sucks man but this is the case with modified cars. Don't worry about it as long as you rebuild it stronger and better.

[Poopie]

i'm not sure why i blew the rod bearing though. I lost oil pressure and cylinder walls and piston skirts get fudged up. I'm gonna have the block tanked and all the passages checked for blockages.

[Grip99]

Well what can you do. I'm pretty motivated to get this car going again. I purchased wiseco pistons and the aeg crank. Gonna order the head gasket Monday. What are my options?

I just ordered a Cometic 85mm head gasket from USP. Im running 83mm pistons.

[Poopie]

pistons finally came in. i was able to drop off the block to have machined to 83mm and get decked as well as have the 92.8mm stroke crank mic and polished. 034motorsports 83mm headgasket is ordered along with new bearings all around. I'll post up pics of the parts i powder coated later. I had lots of spare time. haha.

[Poopie]

some bits that i powder coated.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/4ba4db09.jpg

[Poopie]

block is decked, tanked, bored, honed, cleaned and the AEG 92.8mm crank is tanked, mag'd and polished. Also transferred over the stock AWM trigger wheel.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/46e8217d.jpg

[Poopie]

plastigauged and assembled. CP pistons fit is perfect and clear the oil squirters just fine!
The 034 83mm head gasket looks like a perfect fit too. I wished i painted the block though. oh well.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/44a9bdba.jpg

[Poopie]

83mm CP pistons withs scat rods from before. had the scat rods refurbished since i spun a bearing and wanting to make sure they were all ok.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/c21f3c98.jpg

fresh powdercoat

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/9d2531d8.jpg

block in. I lent my friend by hoist so I had to be beastly and lift the block by myself. wasn't too bad though.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/27091556.jpg

where i am now. A few more hours and should be ready to start.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/7136c6b4.jpg

[Poopie]

Its alive again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDLMxVScnyQ&feature=plcp

[SpeedWorksAuto]

LOL! I thought I was the only one that found it easier to install the shortblock into the car first.

Good job!

[Poopie]

yeah its actually not bad if you have the motor on top of a dolly to move it around.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/e82a35b3.jpg

next up is finishing the front and rear bumpers. Front gets the washer caps shaved, rear gets the valance molded in.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/87611f0e.jpg

[Poopie]

finally got around to shooting some epoxy primer. just a little bit more body work and should be base coating and clearing on sunday.

Doing just the hood and the bumper for now to get it inspected. Will do the rear bumper and side skirts soon after. Not really sure why i'm doing them all separate, but oh well. Mostly because i don't have the space to spread out all the pieces to spray at once anyways.

moved out of my garage to bake in the sun a little bit.
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/055f6db8.jpg

does anyone in SE pennsylvania have a good hook up on windshield repair? Local place wants 241 to replace the cracked windshield. I feel like there is cheaper out there. autoglass4you quoted me $171 but they don't service my area and its not worth the drive.

[Poopie]

got the front bumper painted. i had some problems with the hood when i laid the primer sealer i may have not let the epoxy primer cure long enough and there was shrinkage. gonna reasand and reseal it today and lay the base coat. i will clear tomorrow after i buy more hardener.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/99d187d3.jpg

[Seerlah]

Good stuff, man.

[Poopie]

thanks bud. i hope i can start more motor work cleaning up and sorting it all out after i get the bumpers on and have the car insured and inspected.

here is more body work and paint

i laid on the cleat on the front bumper too thick with out enough flash time between coats. i came back the there was tons of solvent pop in the clear. scuffed and reshot the base and the clear again. Learning more and more with everything i paint.

hood, bumper, rear lower valance done, side skirts are getting the treatment now.

not bad for a garage job

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/75e1bfce.jpg

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/f1bdeb55.jpg

hood came out ok. there is a lot of horizontal surface for dust to land on. i out on 4 coats of clear to give me room to sand down some of the dust

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/3b9db699.jpg

factory-like peel.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/ae518dc3.jpg

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/c03233ad.jpg

[JumboBlack1.8]

Nice job! I really wanna learn to paint.

[Poopie]

thanks. its tough. a lot of work goes into it before you even spray. watching the paint come alive after you clear it is the reward for all the prep. you don't even need the best equipment. a good water dryer/oil separator and really good lighting go a long with for the hobbyist. I'm shooting with a harbor freight set up. its not bad, but i've never shot with pro stuff so i can't compare.

[Poopie]

front and rear are back together.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/1ffe77a7.jpg

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/3dc9710b.jpg

new wheels will be here on thrusday. i should be able to mount them up next tuesday. new windshield is going thursday as well.

still need to pull off a mile of double sided tape on the s4 door sills and on the body. And then find a way to mount the s4 sides. anyone know where i can get that velcro the factor s4 uses?

[Poopie]

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/c625c68e.jpg

pretty satisfied with the rear on color match.

[Poopie]

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/25af7c4f.jpg

brabus wheels were too expensive to straighten out. bought brand new LM reps for a little more than it would have cost to straighten. not bad lookin

[Poopie]

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/515f5a73.jpg

bb5s are on. long story short i lost a side skirt. Took it around the block and it fell off since i just had them on with the velcro. came back around and someone must have picked it off the street and just drove off with it.

also did the $20 pepboys lower molding on it.
definitely a lot cleaner than my trimmed a4 moldings. i didn't want to pay for s4 moldings and i'm eventually gonna shave all the lower holes and stuff when the doors get painted.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/55006822.jpg

[howardfootball]

Looks awesome dude. Great work.

[AudiA4_20T]

looks awesome

[Seerlah]

bb5s are on. long story short i lost a side skirt. Took it around the block and it fell off since i just had them on with the velcro. came back around and someone must have picked it off the street and just drove off with it.



Sorry, but this made me chuckle a bit.

[Poopie]

hahah yeah its kinda funny. whats one person gonna do with one sideskirt?

anyways, some bad news. Turbo either ingested itself or something, blades got all chewed up. I pulled the entire motor out to inspect after i found turbo blades bits in the oil. The bearings in the motor look great though. just gonna go ahead and replace the main and rod bearings since its apart. I ordered a comp ct4 5858 as a replacement. Should be back running in a couple days.

[Poopie]

ugh well got the bearings plastigauged and when i was final torquing my rod bolts one snapped. i just reordered a new set of rods instead. When it snapped some of the threads someone got junked. =(

also bought a comp turbo 5858.

[M-Hood]

Nice choice on the turbo.

[Poopie]

thanks. went the ct4 compressor housing .63ar hot side. I hope 450 on pump isn't out of reach. Whats the difference between the precision 5857 and the comp 5858?

[M-Hood]

thanks. went the ct4 compressor housing .63ar hot side. I hope 450 on pump isn't out of reach. Whats the difference between the precision 5857 and the comp 5858?
1mm inducer on the exhaust wheel. [>_<]

Both of them use their own wheel design so there can be a slight difference.

You shouldn't have a problem hitting 450whp on pump gas with the CT4-5858. Pete(grip99) is running the CT4-5562 and we figure he was around 450whp on pump gas pushing 26psi when he was running 1.8L displacement, his turbo is rated at 590hp while the CT4-5858 is rated at 605.

[Poopie]

i'm 2.0l with 8.5cr. Think i can run 30psi on pump 93?


once i get the supertech valves in my other head i can run the revolver cams without squeezing my butthole too tight. Hopefully i can gain some ponies

[M-Hood]

i'm 2.0l with 8.5cr. Think i can run 30psi on pump 93?


once i get the supertech valves in my other head i can run the revolver cams without squeezing my butthole too tight. Hopefully i can gain some ponies

With 8.5:1 CR you should be able to, Pete was pushing 26psi with stock pistons.

[Poopie]

polished and waxed
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/59B47D7C-90F0-473B-BC00-E3360B072F35-8004-00000689E10BC1D1.jpg

comp turbo is ever so slightly different on the compressor housing. my old intake does not work. it hits the headlight so i'm running mafless now until i find the energy to redo the intake.
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/3F7122B0-1778-448A-A6AD-1E7AA01FE79B-8004-00000689D0652D06.jpg


starts and idles great. Oil pressure is spot on. I feel really good knowing i can keep an eye out on the oil pressure now. i just have to paint my replacement sideskirt on monday when i can run to the store and pick up more reducer. then its off to get the windshield replaced and to get inspected. i hope to be road legal and tuning by the end of the week

[Seerlah]

Congrats, man [up]. I know it was a long time coming.

[M-Hood]

comp turbo is ever so slightly different on the compressor housing. my old intake does not work. it hits the headlight so i'm running mafless now until i find the energy to redo the intake.


Yeah the Comp Turbo has a CHRA that is about 1/2" longer then a Garrett GT, so the inlet will sit forward that 1/2". Just be glad your not putting in a PTE since those have an even longer CHRA which puts the turbo even more forward then the Comp Turbo.


Can't wait to hear how this thing runs.

[Poopie]

Congrats, man [up]. I know it was a long time coming.


thanks man. i hope i don't have to pull this motor for a long time. haha.

[Poopie]

Yeah the Comp Turbo has a CHRA that is about 1/2" longer then a Garrett GT, so the inlet will sit forward that 1/2". Just be glad your not putting in a PTE since those have an even longer CHRA which puts the turbo even more forward then the Comp Turbo.


Can't wait to hear how this thing runs.
i'm gonna eventually build my own tubular next year. i was gonna redo my exhaust to a full stainless vbanded set up so i'll start collecting pieces soon so i'll just redo the intake then. i've read the mafless set up is harder to tune. people have made like 50 more hp from just connecting the maf on a dyno with maestro with no tuning changes. what are your thoughts?

[M-Hood]

i'm gonna eventually build my own tubular next year. i was gonna redo my exhaust to a full stainless vbanded set up so i'll start collecting pieces soon so i'll just redo the intake then. i've read the mafless set up is harder to tune. people have made like 50 more hp from just connecting the maf on a dyno with maestro with no tuning changes. what are your thoughts?

Running a MAF helps with idle and part throttle tuning, shouldn't make any difference at WOT.

[Poopie]

car is registered, insured, inspected

also has the PDR guy massage some door dings out. loving the way my car looks, feels, and drives now.

[Don Supreme]

Damn Poops, you finally got this thing done huh? Congrats, it looks nice.

How much boost are you running now?

[Poopie]

thanks man. I've been driving it every day so far. Only issue is my exhaust needs work. It hangs low and hits a lot of stuff. The flange from the downpipe also hits someone and makes a bad knocking noise on decel in gear. Gonna fix it in the winter when i go full 3" stainless vband all the way back. I'm running only 23 psi now. I'm fearful i will run out of injectors as well. i tried 25 psi once and my clutch slips in 4th gear. So the car sill has a bit to go till I'm fully happy with it. Is plenty fast at 23 psi though. Need to save up for a twin disk

[pac1085]

you don't want a twindisc. unless you want to replace it every 10-15k miles

get an aluminum exhaust!

[M-Hood]

thanks man. I've been driving it every day so far. Only issue is my exhaust needs work. It hangs low and hits a lot of stuff. The flange from the downpipe also hits someone and makes a bad knocking noise on decel in gear. Gonna fix it in the winter when i go full 3" stainless vband all the way back. I'm running only 23 psi now. I'm fearful i will run out of injectors as well. i tried 25 psi once and my clutch slips in 4th gear. So the car sill has a bit to go till I'm fully happy with it. Is plenty fast at 23 psi though. Need to save up for a twin disk

A twin disk is going to hit really hard when you engage it. A FX850 super single will hold the power your making.

[Poopie]

dang $1579.

Thanks for the sponsorship mike. haha. will have to wait till after winter.

[M-Hood]

dang $1579.

Thanks for the sponsorship mike. haha. will have to wait till after winter.

The twins cost even more. lol

[Poopie]

haha everyone knows things are better in twos

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[Poopie]

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/AC2D431D-D2E6-4441-B06B-CC73DC7A36C5-10926-00000692FFC160A7_zpsf8f15dac.jpg

bump

[Seerlah]

That's some bump. How the B5 treating you? I read a post somewhere that your car was or is on downtime?

[Poopie]

It's back. The schrick 252/260 cams were tricky to time with out a cam card or an adjustable cam gear. I feel like its slightly retarded and my timing marks are off by two teeth, but the cams themselves are correctly timed. I pulled the head to check I didn't damage valves and changed the head gasket while I was in there. It runs well now. I also redid the wiring harness a bit. I just need to clean up the interior and pull the old radio and wiring and do a better job on it.

[Poopie]

the newest venture....building up my own tube mani. Starts with the 304 SS flange....

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/4734F50B-A1BA-4BE1-A0FC-5DBC1F0CFF11-121-0000000305092C30_zpsbd9a37a2.jpg

[Poopie]

My 5858 JB turbo developed some nasty shaft play and started rubbing the compressor housing. So I ordered a new triplex ct4 5858 with ETT from our very own, Mike Hood. The turbo only had about 8k miles on it. I think i'm giving on up journal bearing turbos and going back to ball bearings.

Anyway, while the car is down, I'm going to make the most of this and build my tube manifold. I have some stainless pipe coming along with some more flanges so I will be practicing tigging up some pipe and getting my settings down before i go to town on a manifold. Hopefully i will be able to get a legit air filter back on or have room to make a turbo inlet with a maf.

[thenj3]

you will be happy with the tripleplex. i absolutely love mine.

[Poopie]

I love the 5858 so the triplex with extended tip is just icing on the cake. Better spool, better respool and hopefully a little better up top.

[SleeperAvant]

What caused your journal bearings to fail?

[Poopie]

no idea. I need to send the turbo back to comp. Oil feed like is -4an with restrictor. Never had an issue with blow by. Oil was clean when i drained it last night.

[SleeperAvant]

Mike Hood told me journal bearings from comp turbo do not need an oil restrictor.

[M-Hood]

Mike Hood told me journal bearings from comp turbo do not need an oil restrictor.

Correct, they don't. It is just the Triplex that needs a restrictor. Not sure if it has always been that way or something they changed not long ago.
But I don't think that is what would have caused a problem since he has been running the turbo for a year.

[SleeperAvant]

Correct, they don't. It is just the Triplex that needs a restrictor. Not sure if it has always been that way or something they changed not long ago.
But I don't think that is what would have caused a problem since he has been running the turbo for a year.

So Mike, correct me if I am wrong. Does it matter what line you use on the journal CHRA? -3 or -4 will work?

[Poopie]

oil was making it past the seals with just a -4an. Maybe i should have just went with a -3an with no restrictor? oh well, gonna run triplex now

[M-Hood]

oil was making it past the seals with just a -4an. Maybe i should have just went with a -3an with no restrictor? oh well, gonna run triplex now

Pretty sure it is a -4 line for the JB and -3 with restrictor for the Triplex. I am waiting for Justin to email me back to make sure that is 100% correct.

I think a 2.0T owner tried running a -3 line with his JB and it starved. He then changed to a Triplex turbo. That is the guy in MD that drag races his red GTI.

[Poopie]

yeah that guy was kinda my inspiration for the 5858.

I think you're right mike.

http://www.compturbo.com/faq#turbocharger

what size restrictor should i run with the BB?

[Poopie]

making sure i get the right angles on my merge collector cuts.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/stuff/Screenshot2013-04-25at41828PM_zps176e1603.png

[034Motorsport]

making sure i get the right angles on my merge collector cuts.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/stuff/Screenshot2013-04-25at41828PM_zps176e1603.png

Any reason you don't want to just buy a premade CNC cut merge? Quite a few of them out there.

Just curious, I'm all for DIY stuff!

[Poopie]

Got a source?

I can use the vertical mill at work to make the cuts. Just set the angle and its very easy. I don't have a bandsaw or chop saw really set up to cut stainless with and real accuracy.

[M-Hood]

Got a source?

I can use the vertical mill at work to make the cuts. Just set the angle and its very easy. I don't have a bandsaw or chop saw really set up to cut stainless with and real accuracy.

I am sure welding it all together is much harder then cutting the angles. lol

http://www.034motorsport.com/fabrication-header-collector-cylinder-p-1219.html

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/view.phtml?f_cat=Merge+Collectors

http://vibrantperformance.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1022_1214

http://www.pfabrications.com/inc/sdetail/641/644

[034Motorsport]

Got a source?

I can use the vertical mill at work to make the cuts. Just set the angle and its very easy. I don't have a bandsaw or chop saw really set up to cut stainless with and real accuracy.

Mike posted some good links. Don't let me stop you from cutting them yourself, but they are readily available from us and others.

We can also supply them with a flange already welded.

Any particular reason you don't want to go v-band? No worry of things loosening up with vibrations, infinite clocking angle, super easy on off, etc.

Or are you going divided or is the turbo you got already have a T flange?

Looking good either way.

[Poopie]

I thought you were gonna post some Cnc fully machined crazy stuff. Haha well the pipe was $24 and 304 flanges are cheap or I could mill my own. I'd rather have the satisfaction of making my mani from the ground up.

There are some good guides to welding up collectors but some of the angles just weren't that accurate for a milled part. Some were compensation for chop saw thickness so I decided to model up my own so I know the exact angles to make my cuts.

[Poopie]

Practicing my tigging on some Sch10 1.5" pipe. Just trying to dial in the settings.

Knife edge bevel on the pipes
Single pass
75-80 amps depending on the bevel
2% thoriated 3/32"
3/32" 308L filler

I don't have pulse control so I have be more careful with the heat control. I would love to have it to help with my consistency, but thats something i continuously work on. I have terrible hand writing so no wonder my consistency isn't very good. haha oh well, i try my best. Gonna practice on a few more feet of pipe to get my technique down.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/951F1B54-CC1E-450C-893B-4D704D6B11C2-119-00000002CC49D544_zps60df64d3.jpg

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Just playing with settings

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[Urtorsen]

Nice....a good TIG welder is top of the list of tools when I get some place with a garage/workspace. It's fkn therapeutic compared to stick and mig lol. Good on you for taking that on, will be glued to this thread, i hope to have another BT avant build to add in here before June is over.

[Seerlah]

Nice looking welds [up]

[catbed]

Nice welds mang! How's the backside look penetration wise? For me, I couldn't car less how they look, as long as they penetrate 100%. Especially for a an exhaust manifold with all that heat cycling.

You doing single scroll I assume?

[Poopie]

i'm not back purging so I can't go full penetration. its probably 85%.

[Urtorsen]

But when you've got it all tacked you'll be able to backpurge ,no point wasting argon on tests and practice runs.

[thenj3]

looks good man. welding is one thing i'd love to learn. i learned a little in high school but nothing crazy. I wanna pick up a nice TIG and take some classes. i hate paying to work on my since that's what i do for a living, but some far welding is the only thing I've had to pay for, and it was pretty damn expensive. I prob coulda bought a welder and taught myself for the price I paid for my intercooler and exhaust setup.

[catbed]

i'm not back purging so I can't go full penetration. its probably 85%.

No back purge doesn't mean you can't go full penetration, not like you're going to use those practice pieces on your manifold. It'll just crystallize and won't be stainless anymore.

Solar Flux works well if you don't want to waste Argon.

[Poopie]

looks good man. welding is one thing i'd love to learn. i learned a little in high school but nothing crazy. I wanna pick up a nice TIG and take some classes. i hate paying to work on my since that's what i do for a living, but some far welding is the only thing I've had to pay for, and it was pretty damn expensive. I prob coulda bought a welder and taught myself for the price I paid for my intercooler and exhaust setup.

My tig welder has already paid for itself. I was modifying control arms for the tt/r32s. Also did my exhaust, friends exhaust, a few downpipes, my piping etc. also made tools for myself. Hopefully I can get more use out of my mini lathe too.

[Poopie]

Organized on a spare cart I was just storing parts on. Tossed all that crap in the trash. Lol. B5ers should regularly check my trash. Good stuff that I don't feel like selling. http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/EF5DBD18-8729-4AD7-B110-73C31E831BD3-119-0000005D03688312_zps660adb92.jpg

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[catbed]

Nice little jig you got goin there. What kind of welder you got?

[Poopie]

It's an Eastwood AC dc tig 200. I'm thinking about upgrading next year to something with more adjustments.

[catbed]

How do you like it? I've been thinking about picking up a cheap tig, and that one seems perfect. I can't justify spending 2k on a welder just for hobby use.

[Poopie]

It's not just the welder, but all the things you need with it. Like helmet, argon tank, flow meter, cart, wiring to the garage, tungsten and so on. Now that I have all that established, I can work towards a better welded. Believe it or not, my first tig was a harbor freight one. It was actually really good. Lol

[Poopie]

But the Eastwood is great since I can do aluminum. It's fixed frequency and theres no upslope or downslope and pulse.

[catbed]

True true. I've already got a MIG, so I've got most of the accessories. Ill have to do some more research. I've been playing with a real nice Lincoln at school so I'm already spoiled lol. [:D]

Looking forward to more progress. Lookin good so far. [up]

[Poopie]

homemade pipe beveler
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finished the collector. Started on tacking some parts

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[Poopie]

it was tricky setting up the pipes to clear the frame rail. I did my best at guessing and using pictures i took with references as a guide. I guess my hopes of an equal length are out the window.

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/495901C5-5941-4E16-8E74-138FB3E6072D-3436-000001BB36E1A07D_zps1b52ce12.jpg

i got nervous so i removed my old set t3 atp cast manifold and put it on before i went any further.
plenty of clearance!

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc457/aarontrieu/6BDD3A5F-F385-401B-8507-624AFF08E56E-3436-000001BB45710581_zpsf192724a.jpg

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turbo on the check if i can sneak a 3in down pipe between the fender well and valve cover. all good. Also had clearance for the oil return. just need a 45* fitting. My old return line should work too. No need to make a new one.

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[Wet0willy01]

nice work !

[Poopie]

thanks buddy