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DP40
05-12-2008, 07:59 PM
Im looking to buy an A4. Just wondering what will put out more power. A 1.8t with a bigger turbo or a 2.8 with a supercharger?

Overboostin
05-12-2008, 08:01 PM
[>_>]








1.8T and put on your flamesuit.

legionvr6
05-12-2008, 08:01 PM
my money is on 1.8T

UN-PIMP-Z-A4
05-12-2008, 08:13 PM
Your bowels after eating a sack o' White Castle and washed down with some taco Hell!!!

onemoremile
05-12-2008, 08:19 PM
1.8t has more power potential but the SC V6 will be smoother and more refined. V6 for cruisin', 1.8t for racin'.

Please check out the FAQ at the top of the forum.

Seerlah
05-12-2008, 11:44 PM
No need for the flame suit buddy. The 1.8t is better for fuel economy and if you want to go BT, then it is def the route to take. I do not know much about the supercharger for the 2.8, but I do know it costs in excess of $5,250 and I do not know if that includes hardware. With the 1.8t, you also have more optuions when it comes to modding in terms of which turbo you choose to go with. But it all depends on what you want and how far your pockets are willing to take you.

Figure if you got the 1.8t and wanted something like the gt28rs, which many find to be a great turbo. If you look around and piece it together with used items you could easily have a complete set, minus the cat back exhaust, for around $1,750. $2,500 tops installed. But anything after that and you will have to swap out internals. Only the rods though.

So, if you are going the route of BT, the 1.8t is def the way to go. Make sure it is Quattro though [up]. Peace!

Stampy
05-13-2008, 12:00 AM
I swear to god a search button is up top ^^^^^

Not trying to be a dick man. This is just the most talked about topic in any VW/AUDI forum that deals with 1.8t's

B5Jaeger
05-13-2008, 12:14 AM
No need for the flame suit buddy. The 1.8t is better for fuel economy and if you want to go BT, then it is def the route to take. I do not know much about the supercharger for the 2.8, but I do know it costs in excess of $5,250 and I do not know if that includes hardware.

PES Kit is bolt on and can be found for sub 4k NIB via eBay


If you look around and piece it together with used items you could easily have a complete set, minus the cat back exhaust, for around $1,750. $2,500 tops installed.

I find that to be rather wishful thinking. BT = 4 grand minimum done properly IMO

a4fann
05-13-2008, 12:52 AM
o god

Russell2686
05-13-2008, 05:48 AM
Figure if you got the 1.8t and wanted something like the gt28rs, which many find to be a great turbo. If you look around and piece it together with used items you could easily have a complete set, minus the cat back exhaust, for around $1,750. $2,500 tops installed. But anything after that and you will have to swap out internals. Only the rods though.


hahaha a turbo kit for 1750???? your crazy[confused]

1hotA4
05-13-2008, 06:16 AM
my full gt28rs kit on my car cost in the neighborhood of 4500$ after installation....

Seerlah
05-13-2008, 07:05 AM
I see people selling thier kits in classified for $1,400. So it can be done. Never said a new one for that price.

1hotA4
05-13-2008, 07:10 AM
I see people selling thier kits in classified for $1,400. So it can be done. Never said a new one for that price.

I think they were referring to a new kit installed. [:D]

Russell2686
05-13-2008, 07:27 AM
I see people selling thier kits in classified for $1,400. So it can be done. Never said a new one for that price.

haha
[rolleyes]

Seerlah
05-13-2008, 07:28 AM
No need for the flame suit buddy. The 1.8t is better for fuel economy and if you want to go BT, then it is def the route to take. I do not know much about the supercharger for the 2.8, but I do know it costs in excess of $5,250 and I do not know if that includes hardware. With the 1.8t, you also have more optuions when it comes to modding in terms of which turbo you choose to go with. But it all depends on what you want and how far your pockets are willing to take you.

Figure if you got the 1.8t and wanted something like the gt28rs, which many find to be a great turbo. If you look around and piece it together with used items you could easily have a complete set, minus the cat back exhaust, for around $1,750. $2,500 tops installed. But anything after that and you will have to swap out internals. Only the rods though.

So, if you are going the route of BT, the 1.8t is def the way to go. Make sure it is Quattro though [up]. Peace!

I stated that in my original post

EAGRK
05-13-2008, 07:29 AM
Even if I had a turbo car, new hardware and software is the way to go.[up]

onemoremile
05-13-2008, 07:31 AM
I see people selling thier kits in classified for $1,400. So it can be done. Never said a new one for that price.

You'll still need a lot of little odds and ends and one big one - tuning. You are right back at 4 grand real quick like.

Seerlah
05-13-2008, 07:32 AM
Yes indeed. But if it is from a user whom you know takes good care of thier turbo (as in a frequent poster and such whom is known amongst the community) then I see nothing wrong with it. But new is def the route to take as you never know how the original user beat on it. But there is no difference in buying a used turbo separate compared to buying a used car with a smaller BT on it.

EDit: You figure a used kit for $1200 (turbo, manifold, oil and coolant lines, bolts). You can get engine and tranny mounts for maybe $115 used altogether. Like $150 new. Used TIP and hoses for maybe $200. And a tune will be maybe ~$1000. But people can still find used tunes for thier set up if they get lucky. So we will say $600-750 (My point (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194850)). Make your own intake for like $150 tops with MAF, housing and all (I myself would not need that). Now we are back at around $2,500 if the install is done by yourself. Not saying that it can not cost maybe couple hundred more, but it can be done.


But for what it is worth, I plan on going BT(BAT) and am going the used route (minus turbo, manifold, and tune). It will take time, but hopefully will get done. I just started and got forged rods for $50 shipped. And got quoted for a set of used AEB Pistons for $285+shipping and 6 month warranty. I will try and look for cheaper. But that alone just saved me about 500-1000 bucks. Got my ECS AFPR w/gauge for $115 shipped. Saved me about $50. I am just saying I take the advice from the users on this board and plan on saving a lot of money if I go the patient route. Picking up things peice by peice when I see a good bargain.

Someone said before that no one would ever walk on the moon, yet is has been done. Multiple times.

UN-PIMP-Z-A4
05-13-2008, 03:42 PM
Take it from someone that pieced together a kit.
I would have been better of buying a new complete kit rather than looking for deals.
Because at the end of the day your going to end up spending the same amount of money. Only thing is that you have preference over the parts you use.

Seerlah what you are doing is estimating and when you estimate you must use realistic prices and not the lower spectrum of prices seen. When you add shipping cost for all these misc arts installation fees, misc parts you never thought about the price tag just went through the roof.

edit: And it took me over 2 yrs to complete my build.

Russell2686
05-13-2008, 05:32 PM
Take it from someone that pieced together a kit.
I would have been better of buying a new complete kit rather than looking for deals.
Because at the end of the day your going to end up spending the same amount of money. Only thing is that you have preference over the parts you use.

Seerlah what you are doing is estimating and when you estimate you must use realistic prices and not the lower spectrum of prices seen. When you add shipping cost for all these misc arts installation fees, misc parts you never thought about the price tag just went through the roof.

edit: And it took me over 2 yrs to complete my build.

Thank you for bringing him back to reality

UN-PIMP-Z-A4
05-13-2008, 08:10 PM
it's always simply in theory when it comes to reality its a bit different.

Stampy
05-13-2008, 10:17 PM
Not that it really applies here, but I thought I would throw it in. I had a 94 prelude that I wanted to do boneyard boost on. Turns out the manifold from a 4G63 bolts on to a H23. I picked up someone's used manifold, turbo, bov, and other parts from a 1st gen eclipse for $200. All said and done after tuning it cost me over $2300. Ran like a mofo until I blew some seals. Bottom line. I did real boneyard boost and it fucked me on the backside. Do it right once. That would be my advice.

Sigma 3
05-13-2008, 10:38 PM
I have cars with both and if you want a decent daily driver and dont have an addiction to power (who doesnt on here) then the v6 with a super charger is the way to go. Couple warnings 1 it CANNOT be intercooled so if you do a smaller pulley i recommend water meth injection. 2 dont be fooled by the idea of instant power. the delivery on the sc is like a largerr turbo, hittinh its sweet spot after 4 k. 3 go to scaudi.com ans read you will find all you need to know, even prices in some used units. AS far as 1.8ts well i havent had one long enough to not be a super noob myself, but I can say the options for the 1.8 are far greater, thus the support is better as well.

good luck

Siena
05-14-2008, 01:50 AM
For me, it'll always be the larger displacement V6 motor.

So, I'd say the 2,8L 30V.

onemoremile
05-14-2008, 05:26 AM
There is always the 2.7 too. Smooth, refined, powerful...

Gundem
05-14-2008, 07:22 AM
both garbage, unreliable, slow (before mods). save yourself and buy a 2.0t.

Gundem
05-14-2008, 07:24 AM
For me, it'll always be the larger displacement V6 motor.

So, I'd say the 2,8L 30V.

i shoyld slap you across the face. bigger displacement? the 2.8 engine is a total waste. i mean how can you be so slow on 30 fuckin' valve?

2.8 is more reliable however.

Siena
05-14-2008, 10:36 AM
i shoyld slap you across the face. bigger displacement? the 2.8 engine is a total waste. i mean how can you be so slow on 30 fuckin' valve?

2.8 is more reliable however.

Dude, this thread is all about preference, not right or wrong.

All engines have their particular fans, you like your 1.8T I4, that's cool. Nothing wrong with that.

I, on the other hand, prefer the V6 motor. The V6 30V is heavier than the 1.8T I4, but develops more power and torque. I prefer the power delivery of a big displacement engine.

The very reason I've opted for 4,2L S8 power.

Gundem
05-14-2008, 04:39 PM
it does develop more power but it's should have made more. 30V man.

Sigma 3
05-14-2008, 05:12 PM
There is always the 2.7 too. Smooth, refined, powerful...

THATS WHY THE 2.8 IS COMING OUT[;)]